Why isn't eugenics an accepted world-wide practice at this point? I seriously don't get it.
Why are people with hereditary diseases allowed to breed?
Why are people with low iq/mental deficiencies allowed to breed?
Why are people without basic level of education allowed to breed?
Why are people living in poverty allowed to breed?
Why are people struggling with drugs/alcoholism allowed to breed?
Why are people past 30 allowed to breed?
Seriously, what argument can be against it? Muh sacred right to have babbies? Well shit in that case rape should be legal, right?
>>29206020
They should make having a kid as hard as adopting one.
Birth rates are already dangerously low in every civilized country, retards
>>29206020
Because we don't live in some weird genetic meritocracy. At least not on paper.
Who makes the decision for who gets to breed? Governments? Scientists? Does everyone in positions of power even hold the values that you display with your list of arbitrary requirements for being of breeding stock? (basic education? really? fuck off).
I was born with type 1 diabetes and feel that it is my duty to refrain from breeding.
Also being a khv at 23 contributes to that
things will go full gattaca within time
>>29206020
>Why are people with hereditary diseases allowed to breed?
>Why are people with low iq/mental deficiencies allowed to breed?
I kind of agree with these ones, but the rest is just bordering on totalitarianism. Why don't we just become machines, or better yet have them replace us entirely? Might as well, right? You idiot
>>29206020
because theres a chance that 1 out of a million of those worthless shits will actually amount to something or invent something, even if it sans producing 999,9999 worthless shits who at best will be replaceable robots, and at worst be a literal drain on society. not realizing that healthy, educated and financially stable couples are far more likely to produce a child that will actually matter. also, we need people to flip our burgers, scrub our toilets and do all the shitty menial labor that hasn't yet been automated. Once full automation happens, there is literally no reason to not enforce eugenics
Alright lets start with the autists on /r9k/. You are up first op.
>>29206020
Because if you try and stop them from breeding you would have a revolt on your hands and there are a lot of them. They outnumber you tens of thousand to one. It would be a costly battle one without guarantee of winning either chances of success would be pretty slim.
It doesn't work.
Reducing genetic diversity in a population causes more problems than it solves
>>29206093
This is bad...why? What benefit is there in having 7 billion fuckers crawling on this tiny space rock?
>>29206096
Not wanting to breed sickly children with mental issues condemned for life in poor misery seems like common sense most of the population should agree upon
It'll happen. I already tell people I'm a eugenicist. Maybe the people around me are too dumb to know what that means, but they don't seem to mind.
Image related: eugenic perfection.
>>29206169
because there is absolutely no reason for such a ridiculous fedora-tipping scheme. The human race is more productive now then it has ever been before
Deciding "sometimes killing or severely restricting the rights of some people due to something they can't control" is a huge slippery slope
>>29206169
Because the majority of those 7.4 billion fuckers are uncivilized niggers who didn't and will never get shit done except multiplying you mongoloid. I mean those african fucks had a head start of hundreds of thousands of years and we still outplayed them in every measurable metric.
>>29206206
Why do we restrict pedophiles? They can't control their urges!
Why do we restrict murderers? They can't control their urges?
Why do we restrict poor people from robbing banks? They need money to survive!
>>29206231
They common factor there is those actions go against the rights of others
>why are people past 30 allowed to breed?
What's the argument here? If someone passes all of the conditions for breeding except they're over 30, why can't they have kids?
In a way it's better than a bunch of 17/18 yr olds having kids.
>>29206223
I can tell by your writing that by your own metrics that you would be among the culled should your dumbass neo-T-4 programme be implemented.
>>29206167
Fair point. Eugenics work lead to the extinction of the human race.
>>29206274
I think OP meant women in their 30s, who have a much bigger chance of giving birth to kids with autism and other shit.
>>29206276
No need to be jealous my darkskinned failure, genetic dead ends happen often with evolution
>>29206278
>>29206167
Why would genetic improvement reduce diversity? Are you dumb, senpai?
Eugenics will probably be a thing for the higher class people.
lower class and maybe even middle class won't be able to afford Ubermensch children.
>>29206342
If you reduce the number of people breeding, the breeding genepool also reduces, thus genetic diversity is reduced. Is that really such a hard concept to understand?
>>29206020
>Posts image from Gattaca
>Asks why eugenics isn't accepted world wide
Nigga, did you even watch the film? The whole point was genetics will only get you so far, and adherence to strong genetic determinism is narrow, reductive and hugely simplistic. This is largely backed up by science
>>29206333
What the fuck? This is a new tin foil conspiracy I haven't heard of before.
>>29206124
>implying that anyone on /r9k/ will ever breed
>>29206362
But you don't reduce any number of people, only at first
In a long run 7 billion retards breeding freely are replaced with 7 billion brilliant people breeding freely while colonizing Mars and shit
>>29206342
Are you dumb? "Genetic improvement" means a reduced gene pool, as a result of undesirables being bred out, therefore decreasing diversity. In turn this will increase the odds of genetic defect therefore increasing the number of undesirables even further, leading to an even less diverse gene pool. This trend would continue until the human race consists solely of sterile idiots with medical problems beyond counting.
>>29206110
diabetes is a recessive disease man, you can have healthy children if your wife doesn't have diabetes / doesn't have a faulty diabetes-related gene
>>29206365
>is a new tin foil conspiracy I haven't heard of before.
You are stupid. Google it. Doctors in my country even say to women that please don't.
>>29206402
So rather than restricting or cleansing retards, you're advocating a special breeding program for people with good genes, kept separate from the general population? You'd have to work hard to keep the retards from outbreeding you.
>>29206402
but that population has less genetic variety so a single virus could potentially wipe out the entire species.
>>29206020
The nazis sterilized over 90% of documented schizophrenics.
Today, Germany shows no deviation from the percentile rate of schizophrenia within their population (about 1.1%)
How would you even prevent people from fucking? The dumber the people are the more sex they have even.
>>29206538
because literally millions of german women were gang raped and impregnated by subhumans from eastern europe, which are documented to have much more mentally ill people than the west
>>29206020
>Why isn't eugenics an accepted world-wide practice at this point?
Because there are money to be made from retards and capitalism rules the world now.
>>29206832
>implying that beta cuck germans were capable of raping women
Only toughest and most T filled slavs were raping women.
>>29206538
>Today, Germany shows no deviation from the percentile rate of schizophrenia within their population (about 1.1%)
That may be also because
>Germany is the second most popular migration destination in the world, after the United States.[1] On 1 January 2005, a new immigration law came into effect. The political background to this new law was that Germany, for the first time ever, acknowledged to be an "immigration country".
>>29206020
Because a diverse gene pool is better from an evolutionary perspective
>>29206093
This. the only countries civilized enough to organize a country wide, well enforced, eugenics policy are the ones who already have dangerously low birth rates. Niggers pop kids like rabbits however and destroy everything they touch
Why should you be allowed to dictate how society should co-exist when you're a recluse who has literally zero interest in interacting with society.
>>29206933
Take every white person and colonize Mars. Leave Earth to niggers - they wont make any aircraft.
>>29206020
It is accepted, look at feminism/divorce laws across the Western countries. It is non-violent population control via class warfare.
The argument is that film. Watch the alternative ending
>>29206020
>Why are people with hereditary diseases allowed to breed?
Reproduction is considered a human right, and they value their own lives enough to want to perpetuate lives like theirs, even if those lives contain suffering like theirs. It would actually be pretty fucked up for somebody else who doesn't have those diseases to decide for them that lives like theirs aren't worth living. They ought to decide that.
>Why are people with low iq/mental deficiencies allowed to breed?
We aren't yet enlightened or well-equipped enough to decide things like that. See above. Also, it opens up the possibility of us wiping out perfectly good people for "mental deficiencies" that aren't actually deficiencies, and for the state to label anything inconvenient to its power a "mental deficiency".
For every screaming manchild smearing his own shit on the wall and punching himself in the head, there's somebody on the spectrum who does perfectly well and lives a noble, if different, life. Blanket testing for sperg, for instance, in the womb and then destruction of positive embryos would wipe out both groups of people.
And besides, we're already moving in that direction with down's syndrome.
>Why are people without basic level of education allowed to breed?
You can make the argument that their genes are fine and that life dealt them a bad hand. Granted, that's ignoring the nurture aspect of inter-generational turmoil, but it holds up.
>Why are people living in poverty allowed to breed?
See above. Also, we need a slave class.
>Why are people struggling with drugs/alcoholism allowed to breed?
That's chalked up to personal choice, and a number of people who are useful to the species as a whole are alcoholics or drug addicts. Also, slave class.
>Why are people past 30 allowed to breed?
With the emphasis on people getting more education before starting careers, the extension of the average lifespan, and the raising of the age of consent, it becomes a necessity.
>>29207369
>It is non-violent population control via class warfare
If so, why start with the only population on Earth that wasn't breeding like rabbits to begin with?
>>29206020
because it's literally Hitler
and most vocal eugenics proponents now are in fact neo-nazies
>>29206119
>Why don't we just become machines, or better yet have them replace us entirely?
Not OP, HELL FUCKING YES!
>>29206020
>Why isn't eugenics an accepted world-wide practice at this point?
Essentially for the same reason you can't price plane tickets according to person's weight.
>it's a slippery slope
>don't have to worry about having kids because everyone else will breed no matter what anyway
feels good man.
>>29206020
Because genetics is not understood well enought that eugenics is a viable option.
>>29206020
>Why isn't eugenics an accepted world-wide practice at this point?
it is, but it can't be for everyone, and you don't discuss it in pleb media - you can't be superior if there is no one to be inferior.
as to the slew of questions on the why of allowing plebs to breed, consider the breeding of our food, we promote traits that make it grow bigger more resistant, but now imagine if those plant and animal resources were not so far down the food chain that they began to threaten their position as something we farm: what we exploit. we don't breed plants and animals that take more from us than we take from them. why give plebs that right? keep them smart enough to flip our burgers without shitting on the floor, and dumb enough to be corporate consumers and pay income taxes. there will never be a more profitable crop.
