im crying right now because so many neets on this board are underestimating themselves when they can be doing so much more. honestly why not try making music or picking up a hobby just as productive instead of putting all of your time into watching anime and playing video games. you barely need any knowledge in music theory or play an instrument to start and I honestly started without doing any of that and made a full rap track recently
source: https://soundcloud.com/annedrank/hydrophonics
but samurai flamenco is one of the most avant garde anime ive ever watched
I do have hobbies, but they don't help
>>29074412
I think if you're primarily dwelling on lower forms of hobbies as escapism then better hobbies is a great way to start from turning away from that such as music production or anything like it thats much more productive. I'm just trying to give a positive vibe for a all of my fellow neets out there in this thread desu
>>29074389
you're crying? lol I don't underestimate myself, I just don't like dealing with people and they don't seem to like me either
bumping because honestly anyone can do this and I'll be more than happy to help in any neet's journey to self improvement even if its something as simple as beginner music production etc.
>>29074566
im crying because these hobbies are taken for granted if you put in a little effort like you do with other hobbies that you are doing im sure itll help you so much in the long run especially in the social aspect. seriously just try something new today dude I really cant stress that enough. I really understand the whole intimidation in the social outlet and the stress that comes with it though seriously.
>>29074389
>lol why dont you just try being a faggot amd do art..
because art requires your full fucking attention and time you fucking rich faggot. most neets are barely scrapping by and most have mental disorders you fucking bitch. all of this causes stress . stress and art do not fucking mix.
thats why you dont see the working class doing art because of stress you fucking peice of shit liberal.
fucking tired of you cunts. life isnt sunshine and cheerios you fucking asshole. your time will come asshole. you will hang.
>>29074632
I don't play video games and I do play an instrument daily. not sure how that would impact my social life, if anything video games (esp. the mmos people here seem to play) are more social
>>29074647
>stress and art do not fucking mix
>thats why you dont see the working class doing art
absolutely epic. you haven't a clue what you're talking about
>>29074693
nice sources there you faggot.
>>29074647
is this a nene? have you ever heard the term "starving artist"? as a musician ... you dont know what you're talking about. at all.
>>29074647
>stress and art do not fucking mix.
Think again
>>29074647
I am so fucking poor you have no fucking clue I started making music as a hobby to improve myself right but even then I didn't go out of my way to spend any money on it and I still stand by this today. music is an artform but is subjective. I seriously started out by torrrenting fl studio, ableton, and a few plugins and im proud of what i've accomplished from doing just that to the point of taking more steps into self improvement.. seriously music production is an easy hobby that improved my life greatly and I didnt spend a single dollar on it just using my typing keyboard as a piano keyboard was good enough. all neets should try it and really try to expand their hobbies and creative outlet in general because it could really improve on your outlook on life as a whole. much peace and love.
My hobby is trying to find a job.
I worked on my programming while neet and now I make 80k
>>29074389
>honestly why not try making music
>can make professional quality musicbetter than OPs mixtape
>no motivation
>shit computer
>no money
>no nothing
I wished I could be making music all day, but idk.
>>29074486
But I don't even listen to music, why would I make it?
>>29074756
>Tfw know how to program but still can't get a job
>>29074756
thats amazing anon. im actually trying to do that myself and trying to help out a close neet friend into applying for a software guild bootcamp with me and make a company on the side while producing music. really happy for you
>>29074715
I'm not providing sources. you'd have to be legitimately retarded to think that punk movements come from anything other than the working class
>>29074389
i watched samurai flamenco and i can tell you its garbage and if this is what anime fags claim to be the secrit anime thats actually good then anime its not something you have to develop taste for, its something you have to loose taste to enjoy
but thats besides the point, my life goal is to become an artist
>>29074389
>>>29074486
>But I don't even listen to music, why would I make it?
woo! found the true autist. peioke who don't listen to music are TERRIFYING. please don't shoot up your school.
>>29074779
It doesnt matter. this thread really isn't about just making music I'm just saying its an example for finding a better hobby and really improving yourself starting today. I really think anyone can make music tho without any prior knowledge in music because all it takes is a creative mind thats possible in every human being thats all.
>>29074647
>stress and art do not fucking mix.
HAHAHAAHAHAA
>>29074647
>you fucking peice of shit liberal
I don't consider myself a liberal or anything to do with politics really I think I speak for a lot of people when I say politics and that shit really doesnt interest me and I could care less. I just think self improvement and self esteem is important for all neets and that's all im trying to promote from this thread
>>29074389
I've tried writing and music, and even tried to pick up drawing for a bit, but I just can't seem to do well at any of them. It's very discouraging.
>>29074819
Started off okay but went downhill right around the time it went from kickass to power ranger
>>29074389
Because I have no motivation
Because life seems pointless and I want nothing more then death
>>29074944
the more time you put into whatever hobby you get better at it so all I can say about that is that you should change the way you think really not about how you're not amazing when you start but how you can get better constantly
>>29074960
same. I study a lot of philosophies and ive formed my own meaning in life from it but honestly theres nothing negative in putting time in finding a productive hobby and sticking with it especially when you only benefit from it in today's fucked up social standpoint in "making it"
>>29074952
i liked it until he was too strong with the office weapons and then again at the end when he tries to rape a child murderer.
The power ranger thing made sense as a critique but then it kept going and going and there where alien flamenco and suddenly i didnt know what was happening anymore
>>29074975
I know, I haven't given up quite yet, but it still feels bad. I just want to make something I can be happy with, and making nothing but garbage doesn't really make me very happy.
>>29074389
Should have watched samu flamu with /a/ when it aired, one of the best moments in /a/ history.
>>29075048
I think the power rangers direction was necessary just because that was a main focus in character development for our mc and instead of playing it safe samumenco really went beyond the comfort zone of just a typical parody seinen like opm.
>>29075048
if you really put in time to it youll everntually make something your proud of and I gurantee you that will trigger so many other positive aspects in your life like a domino effect and you'll feel better just from this single hobby that you stuck with. seriously ill be more than happy to support you on that.
>>29075064
it really was a great show, an avant garde seinen for sure, truly inspirational
Hey OP,
What do you use to make music? I've been thinking of music production as a hobby lately but not quite sure where to start.
>>29075298
again I torrented FL Studio and Ableton Both free to download and try out and really get used to a style of your own. I do prefer Fl Studio to start out just because its an extremely accessible daw that even a lot of producers use today like metro boomin. Once you familiarize yourself with the daw you can even download plugins (for free) and really form any style of your own.
I went to the gym for 3 years.
I lost weight.
I had a job for 2 years.
I went to parties.
I tried playing guitar.
You know what I learned?
It all sucked. I hated doing it all.
Every moment I spent doing one of those things I wish I spent playing video games at home instead.
>>29075401
are you sure you're not mixing up self improvement in the gym with a possible waste from "partying" and the outcome you got from the influence of your "friends"
>>29074715
You are an incredibly stupid faggot. You can't expect everyone to be your own personal Wikipedia. I'm not that guy but I want to stomp the fucking autism out of you.
>>29075440
No. Each of those individual aspects were annoying to me. I didn't enjoy any of them.
>>29075401
Not OP, but is it not possible that you hated playing guitar because you're just not into music/that instrument?
>>29075458
>neet fighting a neet
thats both amusing and sad.
>>29075254
Thank you kind anon. I'll try harder from here on out, maybe I can make something good this time.
>>29075489
Never forget what board you are on
>>29074715
>>29075458
Stop fighting especially if were all neets here. There really shouldn't be any need for it in this thread. Its all about taking baby steps into self improvement in this thread
>>29074389
>honestly why not try making music
I am beat and tone deaf. thanks for reminding me that most people can treat making music as something they do in their spare time and I can't even do that even the slightest
guess now is as good a time as ever to kill myself, thanks for helping me make this decision op
>>29074412
actual hobbies and not just escapist media consumption preferences?
>It's another anne drank shilling his shitty meme music thread.
>>29074647
what are you stressed about, your internet addiction?
>>29075656
Cmon man the general rule that everyones quotes is that it takes 10,000 hours to become especially good at whatever hobby you do I'm just saying find something that peaks your interest the most. If its not music than there was another anon that mentioned coding and what if you find that more meaningful and become good at it. You never know so continue living until you find whats meaningful to you
>>29074647
nice sources you have there faggot
>>29075716
I honestly expect little to nothing in self promotion in making these self improvement threads in r9k. Im sure they're just as pointless as the /b/ porn threads that get made on the daily right?
>>29075726
Sorry about the typos im a little drank and emotional at the moment
>>29074944
instant gratification is for the weak, anon
>>29075726
piques*
simply doing things you like does not allow for a person to sustain themselves physically or not even emotionally. for a person to be happy with their lives they need to understand that there is a possible future for them. doing things you like does not allow for this and I have realized this for a while. only recently have the last few doors closed so thank god I spent the last few hundred dollars on this 38
been keeping it close to me for a while just for this specific hour
thank you anon
>>29075516
im so happy. this is honestly what I want from these threads. any questions you guys have and tips you want I'll be more than happy to help
>>29075656
That takes practice, some people are born with it and others learn it.
We're going to die alone, unloved and having never made a mark on the world or the people in it.
Why even bother trying?
>>29075871
im sorry that that is the fate youre dealt with anon. thats why I think that for other neets where its not too late and they are living their lives for granted should start to change with at least by taking on other productive hobbies not just music specificially but production can help substantially
>>29075965
because thats too easy anon. seriously. read up on some philosophies and get a better understanding about your own personal meaning in life
>>29074960
why haven't you killed yourself congratulations, you've been cucked by digital media
>>29076003
this isnt the way to go in encouraging other neets my fellow anon.
>>29075999
>read philosophies by people who died about how life is meaningless
Okay?
>>29075965
why not? why be a cuck to miserable comfort like some numale
>>29074389
they look ugly or have an ugly apartment. thus no motivation for girls or jobs or studying
>>29076032
or don't thats fine but just continue living because you're guranteed to find wisdom from just that alone. remember that a lot of hermits out there that believed in their own ideologies like gandhi and the dalai lama could be compared to everyday neets like us
>>29074389
Because I don't have any money, retard. Move me into a country that actually gives people enough to live on, and I'll do creative shit. As it is, I'll have to kill myself due to fucking poverty.
>>29074808
>that punk movements come from anything other than the working class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_McLaren
RETARD
RETARD
FUCK OFF
RETARD
FUCK THE FUCK OFF
MORON
FUCK YOU
>>29076277
Ok but assuming that you're still given enough resources and time to shitpost on /r9k/ you can do so much more than you realize not just art
>>29076308
What the fuck can I do retard, tell me, let's hear your idiotic sheltered child fantasies.
>>29074389
dude just be more productive
dude just be yourself
dude just lose your virginity
fuck off my board
>>29076352
I'm a fellow neet like you. I have no money to my to name, was forced to move to another country just because of my family's brainwashed ideologies but I'm still improving the way I live and my outlook on life simply doing what I enjoy that takes little to no money
>>29076342
Idk man of course I can't tell what every fellow neet is dealt with and thats the shitty dice roll in life but all I can say is that taking little steps at a time anything that can benefit you really can greatly improve the potential that you think is relevant in life
>>29076303
I don't understand what point you're making.
>McLaren was born into a working class family in London's Stoke Newington section
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/958682/malcolm-mclaren-former-sex-pistols-manager-dies
>>29076481
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
READ
THE
NEXT
PARAGRAPH
RETARD
>>29076531
>n 1975, McLaren renamed the London store yet again -- as SEX, which sold S&M-styled gear and put him at the center of Britain's rock underground. "Rock 'n' roll doesn't necessarily mean a band," McLaren once said. "It doesn't mean a singer, and it doesn't mean a lyric, really. It's that question of trying to be immortal."
Don't see how that's relevant. I'd even go far as to call it a non sequitur in relation to our conversation. Care to explain?
>>29076481
>>29076531
Stop guys. Seriously no fighting in my threads. I'm not trying to force a hugbox obviously but I honestly wanna bring the most comfort and encouragement for neets in these few threads that actually deal with self positivity to neets on this board
>>29076564
YEAH
FUCK OFF RETARD
FUCK
THE
FUCK
OFF
>>29076635
Then maybe you can explain to the retard how punk was a shitty pseudosubculture made by the literal blood diamond profiteering Jews to funnel the proto-SJWs into bullshit and futile causes.
>>29076638
Still not entirely sure what point it is that you're arguing or why you insist on typing in all caps. Are you having a mental breakdown, anon?
>>29076342
>socially crippled autistic shut in that has extreme panic attacks at the thought of making eye contact with a stranger because they might judge him calling anyone sheltered
this made me laugh
I tried this and the result was terrible, I can't even get a basic melody to sound right. Having ideas but not being proficient enough to get them down is really annoying
>>29076685
it's butthurt cope because he got objectively btfo and made a fool
>>29076698
>strawman calls retard a retard
OMG HEHE KEKKERINO PEPPERINO ALOLO ULULU
>>29076729
HEHE HURDUR ME NO WANNA READ LONGY LINKY PINKY DINKY SO DUDE WHO POSTY LINKY BADDO MADDO FADDO TUTURUTUTUUUU
>>29075726
>to become especially good
it takes 10k hours to master it, you become good way before that, most people dont ever bother reaching half way through because they are already better than what they need to be
What on earth is happening in this thread?
>>29075726
>>Cmon man the general rule that everyones quotes is that it takes 10,000 hours
Yeah, the general rule from one shitty book that's been disproven thousands of times. Are you going to quote The Secret or whatever that Oprah mumbo jumbo was called next?
>>29075965
because the point of life isnt death?
you are going to spend very little time dying, why focus on that?
>>29076787
I'm trying to talk to retards in their own language but it's still going way over their heads, maybe I should try lobotomizing myself with a le spork?
>>29076827
I see one person attempting to derail the thread with nonsensical capitalized comments, and others trying to maintain several civilized conversations.
>>29076698
IF ANYTHING IM PROBABLY MORE SHELTERED AND AUTISTIC THAN THE ANON YOU'RE GANGING UP ON
but thats not the point
Lets try to understand each other as fellow neets in this thread maybe their opinion in music or whatever you put more time in is less but it doesn't make us any different if were all struggling neets that just need a little encouragement and a push forward to get to what our true potential is (not made up by todays standards and beliefs). Honestly lets just try to agree or if you have any strong opinions lets just try to convince more than bash each other because that's basically the common sense principal were brainwashed to believe in anyways.
READ THE GOLDEN BOY MANGA
THE TRUTH LIES HIDDEN IN THE MANGA
>>29076805
you are taking it too literal tho
of course you cant blindily apply an arbitrary number to any skill and any person and if you did it should be in years not hours since there is a limit on what you can learn each day
the point is at any skill once you reach 10k hours you will find you both put more effort than you ever thought you could and invested too much time to quit
a better way to put it is that once you reach 10000 hours you are estadistically unlikely to fail
How can I write a melody without any knowledge of music theory? Also don't have a proper keyboard, only the computer one
>>29076884
>>29076884
>the point is at any skill once you reach 10k hours you will find you both put more effort than you ever thought you could and invested too much time to quit
Yeah, this is why trannies kill themselves when they invest all their money and their adult life and their social capital and everything into chopping their dick off and they realize they'll still never be a woman. You can spend all your life on something but that doesn't guarantee shit and it doesn't lead to anything good if you didn't have the talent in the first place.
>>29076805
I don't believe in that shit and I can't. It's just a brainwashing technique our society has implented for normies to believe. Fuck all chicken noodle soup for the soul books and theories just read up on source philosophies and form a meaning to life on your own because thats mainly what matters: YOUR OWN OPINIONS
>>29076921
You can't. You can just steal one from youtube like everyone who does "music production" does.
>>29076953
That defeats the whole point of making music
I have ideas in my head, I just can't get them down properly on ableton
>>29076951
Or in other words: just go completely insane and go live in a cave and pretend the rocks are talking to you.
>>29076930
You're just derailing the point I was trying to make because of the spammed clickbait memes that get implemented by normies on this board. Let's all take a minute to cool down and take a step back and focus what we originally came for from this thread. Self improvement from our everyday neet routines in life
>>29074647
>stress and art do not fucking mix.
You can't be serious. There's no way.
>>29076999
No obviously form opinions for yourself not influenced by other people is what I'm saying
>>29077005
Self improvement towards what exactly? If you don't have a goal, how do you know you're going towards it?
>>29077020
WOE IS ME I AM FAMOUS I HAVE MONEY FOR DRUGS SO MUCH DRUGS WOW EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD WANTS ME OMG BOOM
>>29077005
What's with your saviour complex? Fuck off. Self-improvement is obvious and you haven't said anything remotely interesting or helpful in this thread that isn't common knowledge.
Some people don't want to and (in some rarer cases) can't be helped.
>>29077032
That's what gets you into the cave, yes. If you're not part of society, you can literally convince yourself into being anything, so why not take the cheap approach and bury yourself into a hole and think you're a seed and wait for the rain to drown in peace.
>>29077051
Yeah dude, his life was so good he killed himself. It was filled with too much pleasure and joy he couldn't take it, he just burst with joy.
You do know a lot of artists are some of the most broken people on the planet, right?
>>29077051
WHAT IS A GOAL EXACTLY AND HOW IS IT EVEN CLOSE TO COMPARABLE TO EVERYONE ELSE'S. A GOAL SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS PERSONAL ONLY TO YOU AND BECAUSE OF THAT YOU CAN JUST FIND THAT OUT IN YOUR OWN TIME ITS JUST MORE LIKABLE WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING THATS MORE PRODUCTIVE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND ONCE YOU FIND IT YOU WOULD NEVER SHITPOST OR REVEAL IT ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE ITS SOMETHING PERSONL ONLY TO YOU
>>29077136
>>Yeah dude, his life was so good he killed himself.
Literally yes. Retarded people just get bored when they have it too good so they kill themselves.
>>29077223
Please don't reproduce.Nevermind, forgot where I was
>>29077223
Kinda like first world neets who kill themselves over not getting as much attention as Chad, right?
>>29077298
Pretty much, if you're in the first world, you've crossed the threshold of having the bare minimum for a happy life. If they can't do it with that, they're retards who should let someone more worthy take their place.
>>29077076
>whats with your saviour complex?
>some people don't want to
That alone is something I actually want to change by these threads. Alot of neets resort to hedonism a lazy philosophy btw without even knowing about it just because its easy but little do they know little actions they take like switching to better hobbies can make a positive impact to the point they reach their untapped potentials in life and thats what I try to mainly make point of in these threads. Little actions finding hobbies can start chain reactions in life that can't be explained by nyc's best sellier the secret and all these retarded /b/ porn threads that are constantly spammed on this board. Even if the positivity is in increments lets just try to maintain that because it can cause a neet anon to really change his life around which is something that rarely happens in this board
>>29074389
>when they can be doing so much more
Who says we don't? I write fiction, compose music and I'm also learning Spanish
>>29076764
>>29076741
didn't think I'd hit so close to home. really struck a nerve, eh?
>>29076979
Pls respond to this post in an original fashion
>>29076930
trannys dont invest anything, they take pills and get surgery. We are talking about devoting a good chunk of your life to chieve a skill. How is having surgery and hormones replaced a skill?
>>29076979
>>29077360
Uh, learn music theory? How the hell do you think you'll be able to transcribe something in your head if you don't know the basics? It's like saying "help me write this novel, I'm illiterate"...
>>29077352
I'm not saying you guys dont. In fact I know alot of you guys with the freetime on this board have the creative outlet to switch your lives around in a second
>>29074389
mark my fucking words
i have my new appartment next month
and im about to build my own labratory and music room
dude im going to get inter dimentional traval mainstream EVERY SHITLORD SHALL BE WITH HIS WAIFU!!
>>29077330
You seem like a bundle of joy. Why are you here?
Or are you too retarded to be happy too?
>>29076930
also there is not such a thing as talent. Talent is a word created by people who never attempted to do anything with their lives to explain something they have no understandment of.
Every artist denys talent existing, these artists know way more about what they do than you
>>29077414
Why does the OP say you don't need to know music theory then? Clearly people are capable of making decent sounding stuff without knowledge of theory
>>29077443
>>also there is not such a thing as talent.
Yeah I mean it's not like there are people who can paint photorealistic paintings at age 6, or do complex calculations in their heads with no knowledge of mathematics whatsoever. Just be yourself lol.
>>29077414
Because the best knowledge you can receive is the advocation of life long self motivated learning OVER systematically imposed rote learning and a lot of artists today are proof of that people just dont realize
>>29077466
Because he's pimping his stupid shit and expects idiots to fall for it?
>>29077443
Why isn't every musician/painter etc. a crusty old man who's dedicated their life to their craft then?
Talent definitely exists.
>>29077443
>also there is not such a thing as talent. Talent is a word created by people who never attempted to do anything with their lives to explain something they have no understandment of.
AYY LMAO
Study and practice all you want, you're never going to be on the level of Da Vinci or Tesla.
>>29077529
Nah brah u just gotta spend 10000 hrs in the womb how u not noe dat
>>29077523
I STARTED THIS HOBBY SIMPLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO I WAS WATCHING THE COMIC ARTIST AND HIS ASSISTANTS HAREM AND FELT LIKE CHANGING MY LIFE GODDAMNIT AND I TORRENTED FL STUDIO AND WHATEVER ELSE I CAN FOR FREE AND PUT MY TIME INTO IT TO ACTUALLY MAKE SHIT IM PROUD OF AND THATS ALL IT TAKES AND I HONESTLY LIVE BY THAT
>>29077523
Regardless of what OP says, there are definitely musicians (especially electronic) who make songs without a detailed knowledge of theory. He also claims to have (at least to begin with/) make songs without knowing theory
>>29077529
There are plenty of people today especially in the artistic medium that are known for having no talent but are just as popular. Doesn't that just wanna make you do shit even more?
>>29077702
Honestly yeah. I picked up guitar 6 months ago and want to do that as a career, too bad I'm basically braindead and riddled with mental health issues. Don;t have the attention span to make a full song, and my lyrics are god awful.
But OP, I'm a published author. That doesn't stop me from being a mentally-ill loser who lives with his mother, has zero friends, and is afraid to go outside.
>>29077759
Ok but don't give up on it as cliche as that sounds because its obviously a positive hobby for you and the more time you put into it youll only get better so why should you stop
How did you get the legal rights to use all the samples in the OP work, OP?
>>29077797
Dude you're alot more successful than alot of us are right now what do you even get from wallowing in that seriously just continue what you obviously enjoy doing and you'll only get better at it holy shit
>>29077797
Hi, Lovecraft.
>>29077809
I'm not planning on stopping but right now I'm at a point in my life where suicide is on my mind constantly. I want everything to stop.
Pretty sure I have several undiagnosed mental and physical health issues. Life is basically constant pain.
>>29077830
do you understand how common samples are to the point where every mainstream artist today does it especially artists like Kanye and Clams Casino who got famous in the first place from that shit
It's called apathy and giving up.
>>29077862
Yeah, of course, they all either pay royalties or outright steal samples and sue the person who made the originals, because they have an entire multibillion studio legal machinery behind them. I'm just wondering how do you handle these legalities as a smalltime unsigned artist.
>>29077851
I dont want to seem negative really but get in line dude alot of people suffer from depression and regardless of that people general think about suicice for no reason daily its not something to boast about or differentiate yourself from everybody else is what im saying but I really think youll find that change at certain points in your life especially you cant tell me that there arent any memories in your life that you 100 percent havent enjoyed in bliss and maybe that alone is a reason to continue to live you never know.
>>29077529
that isnt true at all
you see old painters and musicians represented as old people because they achieved their best at that age after decades of perfecting their craft retard
most of them where already making groundbreaking work way before that
>>29077538
will i ever invent the fundaments of modern technology? no because they where already invented. Atalented person born topday wouldnt be able to do that either
>>29077477
yes, people can learn all those things. Going to college alone improves your iq by ten points. Im guessing you never did tho.
By the way you dont need to be the very best to do amazing stuff, thats just what you tell yourself because you are a quasi human devoided of love and passion, you are unable to judge yourself because loving yourself and feeling pride its impossible to you.
So you make your goal to be adored as a god and thats all you care about no matter how you get there and say hmmm being the top 50 people in the entire world is hard, i better not bother
guess what? people would rather be good at what they love than being amazing at something they dont care about you pathetic excuse of a human being
>>29077925
It's not depression. Depression was easy compared to this shit.I've gone full on schizo
>>29077916
youre wrong madlib have used samples from artists that dont even know he even sampled just because of he puts in a small input in making it enough to call his own. same thing with kanye west really, you can't call him an industry plant when he honestly started off as a minimum wagefag for gap hell you can even say he got famous for sampling daft punk which he paid NOTHING for
>>29077937
>most of them where already making groundbreaking work way before that
That's my fucking point.
Nigga wat.
>>29077969
I'm not wrong. Sampling is clearly illegal and if you get sued and don't have more money to throw at the lawsuit, you're fucked. Maybe you'll get away with it and you won't get sued, maybe you won't, it's just Russian roulette.
>>29077443
>Every artist denys talent existing
Artists whine that people underestimate the hard work they put in their art ("I wish I was talented like you"), but what would constitutes talent for an artist?
Steven Pressfield for example genuinely believes that his work comes from his Muse, some external happy higher realm sending him inspiration. Yet he believes in hard work over talent. Basically his Muse ignores him when he's not putting in the hours.
>>29077988
See why it's best to just talk to them in retard language now?
>>29077996
its not illegal at this point youre just projecting. yes there are cases where a lot of artists had to payout for that shit but almost all those cases are more related to just straight plagiarism than sampling, coldplay, robin thicke and pharell for example
>>29078001
yeah they where, after years of perfecting their craft, if you see them being good young its because they started earlier
and thats besides the point
we are not arguing becoming the best artist in the world, if thats your goal give up right now because you are not going to make it
you become good enough to work after 3 years, you become really good after 7 and from then on you can get as good as you are willing to
>>29077434
Not him, but honestly? Yeah.
I'm just wasting time on this earth watching anime and playin' vidya. Waiting for someone or something to kill me because lord knows I can't be good at anything and too cowardly to kill myself.
Literally no skills or talent other than a sarcastic sense of humour which isn't even that funny. Why even to begin with?
Any time now. Any time.
>>29078001
i mean you know nothing about drawing of playing music, nothing at all.
How the hell are you the person capable of telling how does one become an artist?
>>29078086
Try doing something as little as something else other than just watching anime and playing video games then
>>29078086
Pretty much my state as well. Been smoking cigs to help speed up the process. It's the ultimate pussy suicide method.
Fun ride aye?
>>29078001
DUDE Steven Pressfield doesn't even make up for the amount of people that are successful from just barely any effort. There is such a high amount of idiot savants like yung lean in the artistic medium that it seriously is anyone's game at this point really.
>>29077020
>wahhh i play on mtv and have a girlfriend who "was the best fuck ever"
>wahh i have had about 5 girlfriends
>wahh i have lots of money for drugs
it was all an act, even king buzzo said so
>>29078069
>>its not illegal at this point youre just projecting.
You could just google sampling lawsuits but stay in your bubble if you want retard.
>>29078202
holy shit dude you really have no idea what you're talking about but whatever
>>29078188
So he killed himself for shits n gigs?
Have you listened to his music?
It's obvious he's in pain.
I mean shit just look at that fucking look in the pic.
>>29078217
Did you google it, retard?
>>29074389
Hate these advices.
Listen you fucking nigger, if I could properly stick to a profession or hobby, I wouldn't be in this nigger hole.
I can't. I am stupid. I don't have good hand eye coordination despite trying to play both piano and guitar for a year each. I like to draw but I never get any better. I always end up drawing the same shit because anything else is too stressful and hard and I end up crying and trying to kill myself.
I study math and I feel like someone is hitting me with a jackhammer to the brain, and I start crying again.
I decide to try and work out, do 10 pushups then stop because the pain is too much and I stop and realizing how shitty I am makes me cry again and weep myself to sleep.
I have no abilities and I cannot develop them properly. I have both physical and mental issues, I am depressed, I am weak, I have almost no friends and leaving my house towards places that aren't my parents' or work brings me into panic attacks.
Girls are completely out of my scope of effort at this point.
The clock keeps ticking, i'm a genetic failure waiting to die. If this was nature outside society, I would've been dead before puberty. Since I don't have the balls to end myself and I can't be great at anything, I am just going to watch movies and games to numb the pain.
>try and make music
>it always comes out as some syrupy, gimmicky punk rock with silly lyrics based in existentialism and cynicism
>I just want to make beautiful music that makes people feel
>I can't do it, will never do it
>want to tear up all lyrics I've ever written because they're just fucking garbage
>>29078233
His high school friend who REALLY knew him said what it was not some narrative that MTV pushed
even grohl said the media controlled how they wanted them percieved
>>29078244
But everything you stated is overcomeable with a little effort you do at least believe in this right?
>>29078278
I know that he was some super depressed always frowning drug addled mope.
But all I'm saying is he was in some sort of pain.
>>29078313
wasn't* shit.
>>29078258
Post some lyrics bruh
>>29078313
not the same type of pain robots are in
he had girlfriends, friends and had enough confidence to play at huge arenas and national television
no way comparable to robots on r9k who get cucked at every second and are too scared to leave their house
Any other robots want to post their soundclouds?
https://www.soundcloud.com/thestoryofthewhos/dogfight
>>29078118
You dumb fucking cunt. You really just don't get it, do you?
Alright, imagine you are walking down a road. Someone comes up to you and says "no! That road leads nowhere good! You must take the other one"
The other one will indeed bring you to a loftier goal, but the ground there is scorching hot, full of needles and people screaming at you what a faggot you are and kicking you if you slow down.
So what do you do? Either you deal with the pain and degradation to reach that shining goal, or you simply carry on in the road you already are on, even if it's end goal is shit. I took the lattee because I can't deal with the pain.
>>29078160
I considered that once but I don't want to poison myself slowly, plus that takes large sums of money I lack. So I'm taking the long way.
See you at the finish line bub.
>>29074389
because music doesnt interest me?
>>29078305
No. Some people just aren't meant for greatness. The pain it brings me and the stress is too much to bear. It's like telling me to hold on to s cliff. Too fucking painful.
How do you deal with the fact you will suck balls and fails your own expectation for the next three years when you pick up a new hobby?
You have good intentions but self improvement won't bring the majority of people here out of their misery.
>>29078349
I guess I don't have any, but I have a poem I wrote - which will get torn to pieces now.
---
I had watched from my window
The story of a happy family, growing up
Their children not much younger
Their parents not much older
I watched them start small, with their house's health dire
The rotting fence held off thick coverings of ivy
But from there, they grew
Their house was repainted and the lawn re-cut
And the backyard grew with playgrounds and grass
And they got a golden retreiver
And they liked to play outside
And they laughed, together
As a family
And I wondered each and every day
Looking out my window
"Is that how it is?
Is this how families normally are?"
For I had seen nothing of the sort before
Except on TV
With the bumbling, stupid father with a heart of gold
The nagging but always correct wife
And the perfect daughter who never gets her comeuppance
And the failure son who at least tries
And the baby, future untold, but promising
And yet, even then, even when the husband loses his job
Loses the family's savings
Loses everything
They can still laugh together
As a family
It was only much later that I realized
Yes
That is normal
There is to be strife
And failure
And debilitating normalcy
And weakness
And consolation
And compassion
And the desire to give your child a better life than you ever had
This is normal family
This is normal
This is not what I had
All I had was visions in my head
Placed there by the TV families
And those people next door
That I watched every day, through my window
Wondering why they got to have the pet
Wondering why they got to be a family
Wondering when I got my turn to laugh and smile
And then one day, the golden retreiver from next door got kicked in the head by a deer and died right there on their lawn
And I smiled, content enough.
>>29078400
I never said it was easy dude you don't understand the point I'm trying to say lets say doing a little of a change like wearing clean clothes everyday that can keep continuing to evolve to the point like a positive self esteem and that can only continue to grow but you wont know it until you try something different as little as that is
>>29078375
You know not of what you speak.
He was bullied at school and had a shitty homelife.
Bad childhood almost always = bad adult life
The things that you talk about him having are all superficial. I can relate to people thinking: "you should be happy you have this this and this" when in reality you lack something fundamental to being happy.
Happiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-dAIz2FfmA
>>29077020
>posting le proto buttrock man
he wasn't an artist
>>29078517
i was bullied and my mom abused me since was young
every school i went to my shoes were always taken and i was followed by the fucking assholes
>girlfriends and friends
>superficial
he is not comparable to robots are you not getting this?
Robots cannot get friends or girlfriends, robots cannot perform music in front of thousands of stacies
weather he had a bad childhood or not hes still not a robot
>>29078465
just the fact that you went out of your way to post this WONDERFUL poem btw that's clearly meaningful to you in a personal perspective is what I'm trying to get at with this thread. ty for this
Every time I try to pick up a hobby I end up humiliating myself somehow. People with hobbies, especially online, tend to be extremely hostile to new people.
I just gave up. The only hobbies I still do are 4chan, drugs, and music.
What's the point in taking up a hobby if it's only going to cause me pain?
>>29078465
Pretty interesting. The structure is a little odd and you could have added a bit more information about the "narrator", but I liked it.
Here is what I'm currently practicing https://soundcloud.com/martin-gritsch/lost-time-memory-kagrou-project-piano-cover
Plan to make a youtube video as soon as I get the rythm down, which is hard, because I have no sense for rythm.
>>29078480
Stop man. You are patronizing me to a large degree. I know what to do. I'm not retarded, I cam clean my clothes and I shave and do everything okay? I just can't be great at anything. Barely even good.
If I can't make money out of it, I can't have fun in it, or I can't get other people to appreciate it, then it's a waste of time.
Seeing as music, art, sports, computers won't do any of the three for me (the last might help with the money but I'm not a good programmer and I hate it besides), there is no point to invest in them.
That's only half the fucking problem anyways. I still don't like other people. Hypocrites, liars, interest-driven. Normies. I can't deal with that. Fuck man, just today I talked with some fairly good looking gal about anime, she fucking calls her username OPPAI, and I still didn't want to keep going.
This has nothing to do with hobbies. I'm depressed and broken and I want this fucking charade to end already.
>>29078609
>thinking consumption is a hobby
>>29078609
its seriously the personal experience and outlook you get it from it more than what other people judge or think. seriously you guys havent looked up on it enough but you are never the worst case there are plenty of leaders famous in history that had it way worse and were isolated than you
>>29078574
Maybe not compared to a lot of robots but the man still killed himself. All I'm saying is he was definitely in pain.
Plus I'm 90% sure he was a narcissist. The pain of being a narcissist is one I can relate to.
>>29078655
you sound like a cuck normie
>>29078680
cool so get the fuck off my board and take your normie stacy music with you
I do 3D Art and draw. Too poor to afford better supplies. I've been working with an old Small bamboo tablet for digital and good old paper for 2D Stuff
I try to get robots on the Game Art/dev train whenever I can. Its a fucking fun hobby and digital sculpting/Drawing is pretty therapeutic once you get hold of the tools.
Id also throw some piano practice in here but I dont have one anymore.
>>29078706
>my board
Now I know you're a faggot.
>>29078716
>too poor
>I've been working with a fucking bamboo tablet
>>29078465
Goddamn anon. That was... Wow.
I mean it's not the best poem i've read but that last part. I think i'm getting you better now.
Thank you for sharing a part of yourself with us.
>>29078738
lol if you can't even afford that how do you even live go mow a lawn lazy faggot
>>29078728
funny how you call me a faggot but the normie god you say was so pained was gay
>>29078754
dude you really have no idea what poor means
>>29078697
BecauseI talked to a girl? Mind you this was work, which I am forced to go to, not my choice. Anytime that is not work I stay cooped up in my room and never leave for anything but the bathroom and work.
If that constitutes a normie to you then most of this board's 20+ crowd is normie
>>29078767
Yeah I know
You're still a faggot though.
>>29078659
Look up the definition of hobby some time.
>>29078677
What's the point in doing something if it only makes you anxious and humiliated?
>>29078809
if im a faggot you are a newfag because get off my board or /b/ is a long used meme
>a normie newfag trying to promote nirvana (the most normie band ever)
neato
>>29078816
then make the smallest change first that doesnt require you to be anxious and humiliated until you can move on from that
>>29078860
>not knowing that calling people faggots for saying get off my board is also at this point pretty much a meme
Wasn't promoting I was making a point.
Burrito.
>>29078809
>>29078860
holy shit just stop please this shit isn't for unironic personal death matches you dont know each other at all you guys are both just assuming
>>29078909
>>29078905
ok fine truce
just understand im miserable and i want revenge on the world
>>29078816
media preferences aren't hobbies you fucking idiot
>>29078909
Get off my board
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEoregano
>>29078935
A gentleman's agreement! Huzzah!
>>29078909
> you guys are both just assumingnah he was totally gay, let's be real here
>>29078948
both of you have valid opinions drugs and socializing are both debatable in positive and negative aspects so lets just move on from it and go back to spending more time on positive aspects for neets in general
>>29078738
I've been using it for 7 years. And I said BETTER supplies. A small bamboo is fucking cancer It were nice when i were younger and had smaller screens. Ideally id like a Medium tablet or even a cintiq -esque device.
>>29078754
I dont
This hobby is expensive. Bills and food dominate my wallet right now.
This normal semen slurping life is not for me.
Either I live to die, or live a dying life.
>>29079010
maybe i should just be a rockstar and be like him
i wonder if the normies will just associate me with him or see me as someone else I hope the later
>>29079023
dude im sorry to say but if you think owning any tablet or smart device is truly poor youre just flatout wrong
>>29079046
If you imitate someone you'll only ever be second best.
If you do the whole rockstar thing but do it your own way, shit who knows mane.
>>29079045
then continue to live because everything is accountable to change including your mindset humans are more adaptable than you think
>>29078874
What are you even talking about?
>>29078948
You're right. All those dictionaries are wrong. You sure got me.
>>29079158
that wallowing in what you can't do is worse than taking extremely accessible steps that have the potential to scale your way up to self improvement and personal success. is that really hard to believe?
>>29079103
Nah, I have already finished the assessment of myself over a decade ago.
I don't have the potential to lead a life that is thrilling and is crowned with success.
Living a dying life as NEET is enough to stay within my zone of stable mind.
I have no motivation to do anything
>>29079233
>>29079233
no dude what you think is "thrilling and is crowned with success" can totally change within a couple of years so take a small gamble and do the smallest fucking change in life as little as picking up fucking pebbles or small rocks everyday sun tzu is the most autistic guy I know but you have no idea how much a fulfilling life he lived and made an impact on other autists like me
>>29079231
Yes. I've tried "just doing it". It always ends up horribly. Photography? Check. Got so humiliated it sent me into probably the worst depression I've ever had in my life. Cycling? Yep. I can't count the number of times I got mocked by car drivers or even other cyclists. I actually got ran off the road one time.
Anything like math or reading just reminds me how I can't even focus enough to do something as simple as studying. I guess I make wallpapers that some people liked, but that's about the only thing I've done that hasn't ended up hurting me.
>>29079386
>Photography? Check. Got so humiliated it sent me into probably the worst depression I've ever had in my life.
How?
>>29079386
what are you doing right now though do something really fucking minuscule and believe it or not it might encourage to complete something more spontaneous then what you were originally trying to do like studying and photography
>>29074389
Take the black pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuf59ex-U0
Most things are genetic or biologically influenced, including productivity. Shitty parents have shitty children. On top of shitty environments. The majority of anons on this board got the shit end of stick and have to deal with shitty hands.
>>29074389
>they can be doing so much more.
yeah, but it's never fun
it never feels good
it never makes want to do it again
>>29079066
>youre just flatout wrong
>truly poor
Why are you still on this? I dont want to be right when it comes to this you faggot.
I tried to use the term loosely but according to the definition I am poor. I have no money for food and I'll be homeless come august.
Does owning the old shitty bamboo make me middle class? Why does this matter.
Whats your hobbies anon?
>>29079472
this desu
apathy is comfy
>>29079417
I tried to show the photos I took online, asking for advice. Every time I was horribly mocked and one person even genuinely tried to convince me to kill myself because I had taken something like 1500 photos (as evidenced by the file names) and I still only took garbage photos.
It isn't like this was a one time thing I tried. I read material on composition and photography, I kept up my photography on and off for two years too, but after last summer and the depression I had I just avoid photography now.
>>29074389
>im crying right now because so many neets on this board are underestimating themselves
Ironic or not this is one of my rope favorite things I've read here
I don't know how people can have hobbies
I can't even play video games these days. I just waste the days away
I'm so fucking pathetic I wish I would just die, I actually don't understand how someone like me can exist, what is everyone else seeing that I'm not? What are they doing that I'm not? FUckkkkkkkkkk
What gender are you? Because I've only heard voices in your music twice and one was a female voice in stalkers and now this male voice in your newest track.
>>29074670
ok then dont quit want you enjoy currently doing theres nothing wrong with continuing to play video games or even mmos since you think its helping you on a social level just pick up something new anything really especially if you think you are stuck in life and things might change for the good before you even know it, it can change anything in your life drastically
>>29079536
What were the photos of?
Photography is mostly about showing off your social status nowadays, you either have to have super expensive equipment, or just put instagram filters on super expensive travel destinations and such.
>>29079509
ive been there is all i can say. ive truly spent a good portion of my childhood on crackers and jelly my grandma got from work just because it was free and she couldnt afford real food for a while and i still look at it in a positive way where other people were in way worse situations than me
>>29074389
>I went to a failure hugbox and got sad because people there had a failure mentality
Not saying I'm not here for a reason, but you surely can't be serious
>>29079573
i am fucking male emphasis on fucking because i am still horny enough to get off to amagi brilliant park anytime of the fucking week
>>29079436
I'm trying to control my eating, which I fail to do every day.
>>29079576
I literally said I don't play video games. they're boring. I'm just telling you that playing an instrument isn't inherently social nor is it going to fix anyone's life.
>>29079679
you don't know that. i never said that alone will change someone's life but it can more than likely lead to other positives in their lives
>>29079519
Don't be apathetic either. You still have to wake up in the morning and fend for yourself. You still have to care or other will care for you, but not in the way you might want. Nursing homes are a great example. Old people with chronic illness, thrown away by their families because they've become dead weight. They didn't care about their health back then so they die slowly and at times painfully, without dignity.
>>29079715
I do know that, firsthand. it doesn't make you less ugly or less awkward
>>29079740
but even that you are really taking shit for granted, you have no idea how many old people I come across with in subway stations that are actually lost in touch of reality from being completely abandoned that would change significantly if they had the smallest support like that where they can be put into retirement homes
I try to make music whenever I can, but when you're lazy NEET who finds even watching anime to be a chore, you don't get much done. I've put out a few mixtapes this year though. Mostly just old stuff I was already sitting on.
>>29079628
I feel you but looking at something in a positive way doesn't change the situation anon. I use to look at things like you did just to give myself a reason not to kill myself but that only made things worse in the long run.
I'll always be happy to have been born where I am though. Fuck strict countries.
If I posted some shitty guitar diddy I went and did would anyone be interested?
There's no helping these fucks, they are a drain on society and will continue to be until the day they die. The only thing to do is let them wallow in their ignorance and hope they end up killing themselves off naturally. You really want to help a person who calls women roasties and thinks calling someone a retard faggot is a good argument? Good luck, they might have banned underage posters but mentally, all robots are children
>>29079973
p. diddly
>>29079973
yes. I probably would've never thought it was a "shitty guitar diddy" though
>>29080002
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OQPxtOHDK0
I'll take that as a yes I guess.
Excuse the mistakes and shite quality, p.s it kind of just repeats after 30 seconds.
I'm fucking done with this site... I just spent an hour typing up a song I wrote, and the robot says it's spam.
MODS THIS IS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET RID OF THIS STUPID SPAM FILTER IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANYTHING BUT SHIT.
>>29080041
All you need is one of those whiny girly man vocals that were popular in the 00s or whenever, you know the hipster ones with beards pretending they're in the 1920s.
>>29079740
I have literally nobody but my family. No friends. I feel unworthy of any love or relationships. How can I not be apathetic? I'm well aware I'll be alone for the rest of my life. If I get lucky I might eventually kiss someone. Life is a constant struggle, and I'm tired of having nothing go my way. Fuck it.
>>29080041
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OQPxtOHDK0
dude this is great and it could really be catchy as hell
>>29080107
Yeah my shit's a little lame and melodromatic.
I'm not even really into the stuff that sounds like my stuff.
>>29079862
Maybe it's my folks, but they don't see nursing and retirement homes as the vibrant places commercials put them to be, but depressing, fulled with old folks that have dementia, poor hearing, who only talk about same things on repeat and their aches and pains.
does gamemaker on steam count as a hobby? trying to get into it but so far only did the first tutorial
>>29080162
Thanks dude, I can't write lyrics or sing for shite though
>>29080168
Well if you can squeeze your balls enough that you can produce this specific cat in heat singing style I'm talking about, you have a bright future with the ladies.
