Because the human sex drive is a lot stronger than most traumatic fears, so the opposing psychological forces tend to blur the line between desire and repulsion.

>>28763605
children are impressionable and will grow into what what goes on in their lives. it's hard to change yourself when you only know this or that one thing.

>>28763605
most of em keep away from slagging around out of fear/shame/embarrassment unless they're born attention whores that would've ended up that way regardless imo

I don't know what decides the split between whether they become distrustful and adverse to physical contact, and when they become promiscuous. I guess if they're less conscious of the situation and it "just happens" then maybe. And I wonder how much pain comes into play effecting their judgement. Are they too undeveloped, and the sensation is just good to them?

>>28763605
Hey I was molested from 8 to 11. At first what happened is I was addicted to masturbation with just clit stimulation. I would have many squirting orgasms from around ages 12 to 16 I could cum many times a day. It was like a stress release. After that I had love/sex addiction but also love/sex/male phobia at the same time. Both are common for molestation victims but sometimes you get someone like me who both things are present in. The theory about the sex addiction is that the victim is trying to take power and control over the trauma but reversing their feelings around it. For example if you are raped and you learn to like it it makes you feel like you have some semblance of control again. For me I was afraid of most men on the one had, I didn't even like talking to them like even normally. For reasons I could never pin down I hated most men. There were exceptions to this rule however, like extremely gay flamboyant men, cross dressers or transgenders of any kind, or crippled people like guys in wheelchairs who physically couldn't hurt rape or molest me. I was addicted also to having first time experiences with guys who identified as 'love-shy'. The general rule of thumb was they had to be too nervous to ever make any kind of move (even in conversation like flirting) for me to experience attraction to them. Having sex with these types ended fast because I saw a clingy pattern (understandably so) to their behaviors and feelings towards me. So basically you can't just fuck clingy fragile m'ladies a lot because they are so delicate. I was so delicate at the time AS WELL (early 20s I'm now in early 30s) it took me a while to see that I was inflicting pain on them.

Real reason:
Women have been taught to be ashamed of sleeping around, they're using abuse as an excuse. The ones that aren't sleeping around and were abused you don't hear of nearly as often.

Don't remember what it's called aside from selection bias.

>>28763784
So the only people attracted to guys that aren't assertive is people with massive emotional baggage.
Good lord everything keeps getting worse. All the time. And there's no end in sight.

>>28763784
But most other rape victims I met in therapy became masochists often with DDLG fetishes (Daddy dom, little girl), bondage, things like that. The prevailing theory I already explained was that they were attempting to reverse their emotions surrounding the abuse to feel like they have power. You can't rape a person who likes it. It's actually really sad. I guess no more sad than mine though. I can only get aroused with the most delicate, vulnerable, sweet, kind, submissive types. I don't really consider myself into bdsm because I don't like tying up or hurting others. But if anyone saw how me and my husband interacted they'd think there was something bizarre going on. It's pretty much like a throne pet to a goddess kind of dynamic, never goes as dark or edgy as most bdsm though.

I got help at one of the best treatment centers in the country btw. I met a famous person there. I went through a LOT of sexual therapy. The worse stories I ever heard were from people who were passed around pedophile rings. They ALWAYS 100% of the time had full blown personality splits and most of their splits were children, so they would go into PTSD trauma and start talking like a child again it was the most disturbing thing I'd ever seen and I was forced to stay present in therapy because of supposed agoraphobia and avoidant personality as well. But it desensitized me so much I can tell almost anyone about my molestation now and people are often highly disturbed but all I can think was at least it wasn't as bad as the people I've seen in mental facilities. One sex addict I met said she experienced no orgams but would have sex with anyone. Guys girls, anyone who needed it. She had the lowest self esteem I'd ever seen to rival any virgin on /r9k/. So sometimes when anons say that they are mad at sluts for rejecting them or being Stacies, some of those sluts feel worse than you could ever imagine in your worse nightmares.

>>28763872
>massive emotional baggage
Say hello to almost anyone over 18, and if they aren't over 18 your the one giving them that baggage by molesting them. You can't win.

>>28763784
>>28763872
Senpai that's just what I retained from that post, and it confirms some cases I had around me.
I feel like I'm one of those "love-shy" people, but maybe not, I like to be really independent and my whole life has been that. I can't imagine turning it around for a girl. Maybe I'm wrong idk. What's sure is that it made me even more paranoid about the good outcome of an eventual relationship.

>>28763784
>>28763893
>developed an attraction to submissive men as well as some light femdom
Interesting, the obvious thing I want to home in on is it seemed to cause a desire for a reversed power balance to before. Many pedophiles desire children because the children have no physical power or mental fortitude or ability to strategize on their own so they avoid mature people. The thing about those other women developing a child-like split personality is something that I forgot the existence of.

>>28763930
>anyone over 18
How so? What happens at 18?

Please elaborate why every human being on the planet is damaged somehow?

>>28763953
This is also my post coming from this person:
>>28763784
>>28763893
This post:
>>28763930
The big theory among my therapists was the virgin fetish came from the fact that my first time was rape, with a different person than the person who molested me as a child. So there was an obsession with reversing what happened or trying to gain control of the fact that I had a bad time by giving someone else a good one. But it always turned out bad again in the end because they wanted love and romance I was unable to facilitate from having low self esteem.

>>28763999
>>28763999
Well, I guess they aren't just everyone I've ever gotten close to. Most people I've gotten close to have some PERSONAL understanding of one or all of the following: Agoraphobia, avoidant personality, gay/queer/lgbt, phobias of any kind, ocd, ptsd, depression, anything not nerotypical. So everyone has baggage as far as I've gotten close to humans just in various different ways. Life is suffering that just seems like a principal of exsistance. If I didn't believe that all I'd do was be angry about the fact that I was diddled as a kid and never able to get over it. So the suffering is something you have to accept logically in order to overcome it and move on.

>>28763893
>i went through A LOT of sexual therapy.
I'm sure you did roastie..
>have it worse than you could imagine
I'm fairly certain there's a fair few robots who go here who have it absolutely terrible.

The past isn't something that has to absorb you though. I was molested and while I'm not 'fine' it'd be stupid of me to blame all of that on being molested. It's more like the problems come from certain consequences and a more generally dysfunctional home rather than being molested. It's not that impactful compared to the more practical problems. I imagine most who were molested by their parents didn't exactly have the best of parents usually. But too much focus is on the molestation imo. Just people fighting is really bad.

>>28763605
Women are sluts by nature because of this many rationalize their natural whore behavior by claiming "molestation". I would speculate many of these women were not "molested" but began claiming molestation early in their life in an effort to acquire attention. Later in their life claiming molestation serves to acquire attention and also to excuse slutty/questionable behavior.

Just my .02 im a little drubk right now so i hope this made sense.

>>28764004
Really interesting, thank you for your story.

How did you regain self esteem? Also when you met your husband, did you feel in love or was it one of those times you tried to please someone but it went further? What is interesting to me is the dynamic that makes a couple really.

Disregard my questions if they feel inappropriate.

>>28764110
I get what you mean. A lot of shrinks thought that it was the reasons I behaved sexually the way I did, where as I always thought I was just naturally a sexual dominate who was queer. It could be both really.

My mom was also hospitalized around the time I was being molested and had severe brain damage from a brain aneurysm. I was kind of left alone with her since no one else in my family wanted to take care of her, so the time that the molester was getting caught (family member) I didn't weigh in on the case because I didn't want anyone to know it had happened to me too.

>>28764083
Well don't read if you don't want to but:
I think you're overestimating the issues of others at the very least. I also think that the people you get to know are as they are because people would generally avoid someone that's damaged unless they have issues themselves.
Personally I feel entirely alone with my issues. I've met one person from my town who was supposed to be in a support group with me (met here on 4chan) but we couldn't even get 5 people with social anxiety issues so it was shut down. If I look at other people they all seem like they don't have issues. It's been like that forever. There's been maybe <20 exceptions I've seen at a distance. Some girl who stopped coming to school for apparently no reason etc
Perhaps you're right that it's easier to cope with your view. I don't see how I can get there though. I think a lot about things.

>>28764149
>How did you regain self esteem?
Basically through therapy. I also met a lot of 'worse' off people than me like I mentioned before that would put things into perspective. One guy who was 19 and tried to cut his penis off (he was rapped when he was 3). Then there comes a point in therapy where it's almost like you get almost bored or desensitized to re-hatching the experience. At first it's like a nightmare and its like brand new and fresh, during hypnotic therapy you can have details that you didnt think about for a long time pop up, all without using drugs and alcohol or sex - all the basic go to retarded coping mechanisms.

My cousin who was molested with me is one of the most successful victims I've ever seen, she's got a kid of her own and works with kids pretty much as a child therapist. So seeing the pain of others so often can really make you think about your own. Every time I cry I just think about the one in five people crying right now out of depression too. It's like you aren't alone and when you finally accept you're not a special snowflake so you don't have to feel edgy and terrible all the time.

>Also when you met your husband, did you feel in love or was it one of those times you tried to please someone but it went further? What is interesting to me is the dynamic that makes a couple really.

I'm not sure I think that our mutual insanity seemed to line up so well. I think he has intimacy shyness pretty much and never met anyone who he thought would find it attractive or was willing to hold his hand and guide him through every step of the way. We've been together almost a year and we haven't had sex yet either though we are attracted to each other (VERY). We are just taking it slowly so we can feel safe, it's almost really like being a child for both of us, going super slow and discovering for the first time so sex can feel safe instead of like a fucked up terrible nightmare.

>>28764312
Oh and we aren't actually married yet I just want to get used to saying husband and making sure to let people know that it's real and serious and monogamous, I often say wife too because I never thought I could fall in love with a male and I like to picture him as female even though he's cis and everything. It's also part of an old habbit I'm trying to get out of doing where I'd pretend males like didn't exist.

*Not the girl

>>28764275
You seem pretty convinced, people are good at hiding things (I consider myself good at it and it would be really arrogant to believe I'm the only one good at doing it). Issues are a weakness, and showing your weakness in this world is asking to be crushed, that's my view at least. You won't have people willingly admit their weakness, nor acknowledge them that easily.

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>>28763605
THIS IS THE TRUE EXPLANATION:

I knew a girl like that, and she was indeed promiscuous.

Point is, subconsciously we all try to control the thing that made us fear it while little.
One way to control the thing is to learn to love it, other - to devalue it.

Sex is devalued if you do it with lots of people, for trivial reasons.
Soon sex becomes nothing, becomes meaningless - so see - in that way - her trauma becomes smaller and meaningless.

Same reason why some girls, after a tough break up with a guy they loved, go out and have orgies with as many men possible, again - to devalue the first experience and lessen its importance and therefore impact on their emotions.

It's ironic cause that behavior is proof that opposite is the case.

>>28764312
>>28764350
Thank you and good luck to both of you.

>>28764312
> tfw when most people fund someone perfectly compatible with them out of luck no matter how unusual they are and how unlikely it is

>>28764374
So how do we explain today's hypersexualisation then? Is it to completely destroy what made women feel ashamed? In a sense males would be responsible for overshaming "roasties". So now instead of a handful of those we have them in droves?

>>28764275
I was trying to type something but I couldn't collect my thoughts properly, there's just so many factors and everything. This philosopher Allan Watts, reading and listening to him helped me a lot. When it comes to what pain is, the ego, and isolation, and how to connect to others and spirituality.

>>28764477
Checked. Origami, Oregano.

Yea, I don't get it either. I had a pretty shit childhood and if not for the abuse I'd be a virgin.
But, then again, I'm not a woman, so maybe it's something innate to women.

Women look fot any eccuse to bitch and be broken. I was molested too but I don't make my life revolve around it and act like it's the source of all my problems.
Why is it you only ever hear of females having their lives ruined by molestation, while men are molested just as much yet you rarrly ever hear thwm talk about it as an excuse

>>28764648
Women are more emotional.
That's pretty much it.
Anything that has to do with women being dramatic or illogical can be tied back to their emotions.

>>28764534

It's not completely related, today's hypersexualization is a problem by its own.

Hypersexualization is not a product of abuse (on society's scale) but of several different factors.

There are miniature trends in societies, and major trends in the cycles of evolution of human race, the play of those together is what brought about this era of SEX.

It wont last long if it keeps destroying family values, but we still didn't achieved critical mass of fuckups to warrant a change of global proportions.

hypersexualization/promiscuity/shamelessness of women is tied with weak males and weak males stem from achievements in technology and culture that replaced the need for physical strength, and even mental strength.

The society we live in is very comfy, and comfy society cannot raise a strong male. We created out own doom, in a sense.

That's why the only way to develop as a man is to seek that which makes you scared as fuck (but not just for fear's sake, there has to be a prize you want on the other side of fear). We dont have initiation, and no one gives a fuck if you develop into a full male or not since we dont live in tribes, or close knit communities as before internet era, but being a man is still important and one should aim to conquer and deserve the title.

Society is and will always be shaped by power, power was and will continue to be held by men. When women hold the power, it only means we let them.

And that will change soon.

>>28764684
Maybe women aren't emotional. Maybe men are just dead inside.

>>28764824
Or maybe we just know that deep down most people don't actually give a shit and aren't interested in garnering the feigned pity of people who couldn't care less.
Not everything revolves around us m8, shit happens, sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad, the world keeps on spinning.

>>28764684
>women
>emotional

A woman can get over a dead husband in a matter of months. While men fucking kill themselves.

How is that more emotional? I would even argue that women are more logical than men, though their logic is aimed towards serpent-like "I must lay eggs this month" intentions more.

>>28765018
Emotional != empathetic
There's a difference anon.

>>28764477
Thanks dude, appreciate you.

>>28765057
How can you be more emotional if you're not empathetic? Doesn't that make your feelings cardboard?

>>28763844

>Women have been taught to be ashamed of sleeping around

I see no proof of that anymore. The millions upon millions of women in porn and the masses of women that take part in slut culture just shows that times and women have changed.

>>28765085
>How can you be more emotional if you're not empathetic?
Do you not know what either of those words means?

>>28765094
Next thing you're going to tell me that those fake american smiles are emotions too?

If you can't identify yourself with another person's feelings, your emotions are on a different level aswell. That is a lower level. Serpent level. Cardboard.

>>28765094
>>28765094
Lol do you?

In order to have self esteem you have to have empathy towards yourself. In order to connect feel romance, friendship, or love you have to have empathy towards others. You can't have that if you don't have an identity. That get's fucked up when you get raped or something. Sex has meaning, it's not just over dramatic women complaining. Sex is like an act of empathy and trust between two people.

>>28765120
>Next thing you're going to tell me that those fake american smiles are emotions too?
They're fake actions meant to convey supposed emotions from sociopaths.
>f you can't identify yourself with another person's feelings, your emotions are on a different level aswell.
They're still emotions, ergo you can still be extremely emotional and not particularly empathetic. Hell, there are plenty of emotional selfish cunts out there.

>>28765139
>Sex is like an act of empathy and trust between two people.
Why do men have such trouble understanding that?

>>28765085

what is the point of being empathetic towards a man?

It's all a ploy to understand how one ticks and how to use it for your won advantage.

I understand ppl all to well, but I dont show it in my emotional composure.

Women just feed of other's emotions because they dont have their own.

>>28765169
if by men you mean women then yeh weird.

>>28765139
>Sex has meaning, it's not just over dramatic women complaining.
For the most part it is. A lot of shitty people will use their upbringing/shit childhood/shit parents as an excuse for their shit behavior.
I had a lot of the same issues (including molestation) and yet I never turned into a womanizer or a sociopath or any a criminal (despite an obvious predisposition for criminality in my family).

>>28765187
No I defiantly mean men.

>>28765208
I mean theres a man in this thread saying that rape isnt real its just a thing women make up to be dramatic. Then robots wonder why they can't find even one friend?

>>28765208
>defiantly

uhmmm... I guess it can make sense.

you are either not that attractive or attracted to chads and while I understand that, you gotta know that those who value sex more than person cant view it as a deep connection stuff etc.

>>28765241
Are you retarded or is reading just not your strong suit?

>>28764684

Woman also seem to have a better support network so when a spouse does die, they have a better grieving process. It's not a matter of being more emotional, but women are more socially accepted to express emotion.

If a women had no support network and an inability to express grief in a healthy way, than she's going to have a higher chance of suicide than a guy with a strong support network and a healthy grieving process.

Not everything boils down to gender. It's more illogical to suppress powerful emotions, because that ends up putting an eventual physical and mental toll on the body. It's even more illogical to realize this than continue on a clear path of destruction after blaming it on society when individually you have far more control over your own life.

>>28765151
Those things are still connected. Being unemphatetic gives you cardboard and whatever I write on it becomes your meager feelings.

>>28765253
>not that attractive or attracted to chads
What?

I'm not attractive but I don't think I'm attracted to Chads? I would think Chads treated sex casually and that's not what I'm into. So I just don't get your logic but whatever I'm often retarded and confused anyway.

>>28765086
It's getting better, but you can't beat this kind of thought process, backed by evolution, within a generation or two.

Having everything the same, would you rather a woman who slept with all your friends or a woman who slept with only you? Why? Because of the negative preconceptions with a woman (even a guy) that sleeps around.

>>28764358
I know I am. If I let people know I was molested they'd be either very shocked or just be like "yea, that explains a lot"

>>28765269
>Being unemphatetic gives you cardboard and whatever I write on it becomes your meager feelings.
Actually I'm someone else btw not the person you are talking about but a highly empathetic person has more of a mirror effect because they are more open to suggestion than a normal person, because they are attentive towards another person's needs.

I consider myself to have a mix of high empathy and high autism.

>>28765266
>Not everything boils down to gender.
When it comes to things like emotional tendencies, it really does.
Female hormones objectively result in more emotional people, just look at MtF trannies.
It may not be 100% gender, but gender definitely plays a huge part.

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anyone else revealed they were molested and then have someone say "I thought that you were"? This has essentially happened twice, I wonder what it is that makes them know that. Self conscious about how other perceive me now

>>28765319
Because I'm INFP as well high autism high empathy like Marcel Proust and Allan Watts.

>>28765190
>If it didn't happen to me, than everyone else is crazy.

I agree that at some point a shit behavior can't be excused by shit upbringing. It can be a reason, but the point of being an adult is that you'll eventually be held accountable for your actions/decisions. We can't completely brush away trauma, but we can be a bit more empathetic to those who are trying to overcome it.

>>28765342
Yea, I have. Lol I'm the same girl who was talking a lot about it up there. But usually the people who say it are therapists. And when I get around to the molestation thing they are like 'YUP' like it's super obvious.

>>28765287
when robots speak of women they speak of attractive ones.

beta males and ugly women are both in same situation -> they have no value on the market.

men are valued for their masculinity and women for their looks.

It's just the way world works.

I know there are many ugly girls who would be loyal and cook and clean etc.

Just as top tier girls know there are many men who would buy them stuff and fuck them.

But they will chose the most masculine one to do it, just as men will choose the most prettiest woman who can do what they need of her.

It's just the way world works.

There are exceptions to the rule though, just very rare.

>>28765320
We are not our hormones/base instincts though. Not excuse our genders having a tendency towards certain things, but at some point as a fully capable adult human, you have the intelligence and logic to step back and say 'yeah, sorry, don't know what came over me.'

Girls on their periods shouldn't use it as an excuse to go nutcase psycho. They can be grumpy because of cramps and just generally feeling like crap, but they can't blame it on being a girl on their period. You can be perfectly pleasant despite it; just need a stronger mental fortitude and a non-bullshit attitude.

>>28765353
>We can't completely brush away trauma, but we can be a bit more empathetic to those who are trying to overcome it.
I'm empathetic to an extent.
If you just had a shit childhood and are doing everything in your power to make sure you don't end up ruining your life, then I'm extremely empathetic.
If you had a shit childhood and use it to excuse slutting it up, being a druggie, and generally being a shitty waste of space, I have little to no empathy.
While I can relate to the mental and emotional baggage, I can't ignore someone being so weak-willed or flat out worthless that they'd degrade themselves so horribly.

>>28765366
My first therapist hinted that my problems stemmed from coping mechanisms I developed in childhood that were purposeful then but dont work now.. I didnt ask about that at the time but it sounds like she assesed that some fucked up stuff happened when I was a shota. The other time was a church minister who told me god told him I was hurt by a man that I have spent my life being afraid of.. the other time was a woman who was raped who said she can just pick up on these things. Its still so strange though

>>28765304

I would rather have a woman that only slept with me, of course.

These ideas are fucking ingrained into men. We naturally have less respect for sluts and we don't want to date or marry them. I find it atrocious how modern western society, feminists and the Internet are trying to make it so guys have to find sluts acceptable. We naturally don't want to commit to them and that won't change.

>>28765374
Okay well oops I'm ugly oh well. Sorry. I still found a husband so... I'm not really worried about being attractive anymore, I just don't think about it or give a fuck.

>>28765440
>I'm not really worried about being attractive anymore

baka.

>>28765424
>the other time was a woman who was raped who said she can just pick up on these things.
Holy shit, are you me?
She didn't guess the gender right, but whatever.

>>28763605
My real question is why can't men keep their hands to their fucking selves. Why does nobody get extremely angry that a father or uncle has turned a little girl into a slut and ruined her for other men before she had a chance to ruin herself?

They should be killed desu

>>28765424
>>28765424
Even when I was like 8 I started befriending other kids who were molested, both guys and girls and a few of them told me about what they experienced. like there was a day at school that we learned about what molestation was and my best friend admited to me that she'd been molested, and I was like wow me too. There was another girl and one guy I suspected were abused. I was in the fourth and fifth grade and we would talk to each other about sexual speculation. The boy said he'd seen porno before and he lived in a trailer and generally a trashy life so I believed him and out of curiosity me and the girl would ask him questions about what sex was like and I could just tell they were molested too.I mean I never really asked so I never found out but it was just like this sense I had especially because they were curious like me and it was sometimes during these conversations I'd get really horny. Being a chronic masturbater at only 10 was weird because I just knew it was a behavior no one else did. I'd squirt too and back then I was convinced I was pissing. So I'd have to wash my blankets at night in secret. The only kinds of guys I've ever been attracted to were either really fem/twinks or shota, and I'm pretty much queer besides that with a huge fear of most 'normal' or heteronormative men.

>>28765536

>Women become sluts because men turn them into sluts by molesting or raping them

Fuck off with that shitty meme. Women are just making excuses so they can be sluts and whores without people judging them.

>>28765554
Oh and with dudes ideally I'd never have insertion with them. I'm like offended by penis going into vagina sometimes, only would with a dude I really liked and trusted and thought pretty much had the soul of the woman. With women I'm into weird shit too, completely obsessed with vagina, like smell, taste, appearance, and oral pussy worship. I also used to think that all men who weren't transgender, gay, or handicapped (non able bodied) should always be in a chastity cage.

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>>28765574
it's not a meme.

But molesting is causing lesser part of current slut culture.

its not even a slut culture anymore.
It's called ''being a woman'' now.

:S

>>28765574
It's not a meme you retard. Why would you be okay with men turning girls into used goods before they hit puberty?
Regardless of whether they slutted around afterward it's still a huge Fucking problem and mentally fucks up the woman for future relationships.

Men who can't keep the ants in his pants or let his fingers linger need to be killed.

>>28765647
See, now this is the kind of crazy that I'd never associate with.
So many red flags it's unbelievable.

>>28765659

It is a meme, but you are correct. Women these days claim "society" shames them for having sex but they are just making excuses. Being a slut and being involved in slut culture is commonplace for western women now.

>>28765690

I am not alright with men doing that to women, I'm just saying that you're making excuses, FAGGOT.

Women feel bad for being sluts and whores. They find ways to mitigate this - by claiming that society oppresses them, or using things even as dire as rape to justify them going crazy for Chad's cock.

Women are social masters, being shamed and being accepted matters to them constantly even if they say it doesn't. In fact, the more they say those things don't matter, the more they do for them.

>>28765690
I 100% agree lol. Pedophiles should be completely murdered.

>>28765692
>always be in a chastity cage
Well I try not to think like this anymore because even though the male gender is constantly raping people it doesn't mean we have to enslave them. I just sort of hope that sjws will shame them about raping enough they eventually become beta nu males. That's not an insult nu males are great because they aren't assholes.

>>28765746
Honestly, I'm pretty fucked up, but you're a nightmare m8.
I can't help but think this is bait, no way is this a serious post.
Then again, I can never tell with you white people.

>>28765765
Idk I just don't see what's so crazy about not wanting to get raped, abused, or treated badly. Men have those kinds of behaviors towards women. So plan A would be to stop hanging out with most men.

>>28765730
But it's more of a problem than women being sluts.

Men generally enable his behavior by not being able to control their urges. This leads to no woman being turned down for a fuck.

>>28765833
I was raped, abused, and treated badly by a woman (or rather, for the latter 2, by women), I guess all women should be kept in cages and kept away from children since there's a chance they might molest them.>>28765854
>This leads to no woman being turned down for a fuck.
That's how biology works anon.
Guys have huge sex drives and an innate need to spread their seed.
Women are the sexual selectors, they need to choose between no-strings-attached free sex and a committed relationship (or string of committed relationships) that leads to kids/marriage/whatever.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>28765854

That is true, faggot. Men are the other piece that makes the entire thing complete.

But, times are different now, and women have more power and agency than ever. I can't even Google any topic regarding women or men, dating etc without the search results being organized to all demonize men and exalt women. That's just one example, things favor women now.

Chad Thundercock validates sluts, men in general don't do anywhere near as much damage as Chad does.

>>28765892
Sorry to hear about that dude but I do get your point. That's why I try not to persecute just the male gender anymore. I'm aware women are pieces of shit too sometimes. Anyway child molesters should just be killed regardless of their gender.

>>28765554
Yeah I always befriend broken people who were molested or had crap childhoods, I dont even feel comfertable in a friendship with well ajusted people, I have to notice a certian amount of messed upness in order for me to want to pursue a friendship. I only became aware of this recently.

>>28763605
don't ask robots. they don't know.

baggage from sexual assault manifests in two ways.
1) early sexual awakening, impressionable kids are taught what sex is in a taboo way, sex is seen as a taboo thing, the kid is forced into maturity because of molestation and takes a sense of pride in this maturity and wants to brag about it to other children, show them the ropes, or just as a form of self harming.

2)enormous aversion to sex. vaginismus, asexuality, inability to form close bonds with others. trust issues. these kids associate sex and sexuality with trauma and tend to avoid it.

the answer to your question is a difficult one. these people that are raped, it's typically done by someone close to them. they feel confused that someone they trust would use them in this way, and learn from an early age that sex is a tool to make others feel good, a process that will be repeated again and again in the future

>>28765933
>Yeah I always befriend broken people who were molested or had crap childhoods, I dont even feel comfertable in a friendship with well ajusted people, I have to notice a certian amount of messed upness in order for me to want to pursue a friendship. I only became aware of this recently.

This is pretty much me 100%. Even though it can lead to some fuckedness still.

>>28765931
Agreed, child molesters are complete and total monsters.
If I wasn't related to the woman who fucked me over I'd probably have killed her a long time ago.
But, she ended up arguably more fucked up than I did, so I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

>>28765973
I struggled for a long time with trying not to kill a rapist who raped a friend I knew. But the situation was not as black and white as it originally seemed to me so I don't really know if anyone deserves death. I have like a phobia of being a molester even though I've been around kids before and even the thought of molesting them would make me physically ill. That's supposed to be a good sign but I still have that fear anyway. Because of my attraction to child like qualities (age has nothing to do with it) my husband is older but he's still like my baby in a motherly sort of way.

>>28765892
I hate all rapists and pedophiles. Gender is no excuse. They all should be hanged.

>>28765901
But that's the thing women aren't always Fucking Chad thundercock. They Fuck social men. If you can go to a club or houseparty and find a drunk bitch you can most probably have sex with her

Also some women Fuck EVERY man. Robots have problems that prevent them from even being social enough to get to the party. They also are minorities. Even cucks manage to get themselves pussy.

Men either are too desperate to say no or too stupid and women think they can do whatever they want because men never say no or make majorities don't voice an opinion against these actions.

That's why female rapists and molesters get away with their crimes.

>>28765892
>Guys have huge sex drives and an innate need to spread their seed.
If you honestly think you are driven by reproductive instinct all the time then you aren't an evolved human being. Men aren't spreading any seed or fulfilling any biological drive if they don't get the woman pregnant. Men AVOID spreading their seed at all times, throwing you cum at a bitch is not spreading your seed

This is false. Especially for intelligent beings.

>>28766026
For me it's more about the innocence.
Probably has a bit to do with all my fucked up fetishes, but I prefer a childish and immature outlook towards sex.
Granted, I'm actually not all that interested in sex IRL, I'm more a 2D kind of guy.
>>28766094
>Men aren't spreading any seed or fulfilling any biological drive if they don't get the woman pregnant.
You're pretty dense.
It's still a biological holdover, advances in technology aren't going to stop that.
That's like saying that humans aren't social beings anymore because most social interaction in the first world is done through the internet.

>>28766059

Women are mostly fucking Chad Thundercock. But the rest of your post is quite accurate. Men these days are indeed spineless against women. Yes, the slut problem is partially because of men, but Chad has REAL male privilege that we don't and women are far too powerful in this modern age to be absolved of responsibility. This "oppressed woman" bullshit simply does not apply to the western world.

>>28766059
This is true. Because a woman will be looked at as hot and people will be like what a lucky boy and shit like that. That's one of the most fucked up things about liking shota is when grown men say things like 'where were you when I was a kid?' and that basically on and on about how it's really hot at stuff. Btw, when I talk about shota and stuff it's more of a mentality than a age. The thing I fapped to for years was Poju's Secret Journey.

There's other guys on the internet who would encourage that attraction and I mostly look down on a guy like that. Also part of their logic would be something like well if I had met you when I was younger I wouldn't be so lonely now or something like that(?)

>>28766026
Oh and the kids I helped take care of were raped by men but because their mother who was a woman sold them for drugs, and part of our job looking after them was making sure they didn't masturbate each other or whatever. I had someone helping me and if anything like that happened which thank god it didn't when I was working my shift I would of just gone and told her. I also refused to bath them or help them get dressed or anything like that because if I saw them naked I'd literally feel fear. Like an icy cold and sick feeling which triggered me to memories of being molested (mostly in the bathroom).

>>28766118
>I prefer a childish and immature outlook towards sex.
I kind of get this but it's like these are the only people I can become relaxed enough around in order to become aroused in the first place. The way I think of most men is that they are like predators and that I should always be on my guard.

>>28766185
>That's one of the most fucked up things about liking shota is when grown men say things like 'where were you when I was a kid?'
Yea, that always pisses me off.
Guys always think it's hot as an adult or in anime/manga, but IRL it's just as shitty as the inverse.
I think guys just have this idea of women being motherly and loving, but if a woman's willing to rape a child then they're probably not the most loving or caring person.

>>28766325
>most loving or caring person.
This.

I read a suicide letter of a guy who said he was raped at early toddler age and was having dark thoughts because of it and he stated that people will call he a coward but he should be renown as a hero for killing himself before he hurt someone else. It's a dark thought but there might be some truth to that.

>>28766225
>The way I think of most men is that they are like predators and that I should always be on my guard.
I just don't feel like expending the energy to care about most women IRL. They're basically just background noise at this point to be honest. Either that or I actively and autistically avoid them to an insane degree (to the point where I've dropped classes because there were too many women in them), especially the really talkative ones that always seem to want to befriend everyone.

>>28766382
What a faggot. I bet that didn't even happen, he just went to some shrink who made him "remember" stuff and he became a little bitch.

>>28766421
>>28766185
This is what autism looks like.
Oragno

>>28766421
That sucks I'm sorry to hear that it's kind of weird how I'm the same way only with the opposite gender. I feel kind of bad talking to you now because I don't want to trigger you.

I've never been molested/assaulted but I'm mortified of dating people because of my parents. They constantly fight and threaten each other and it's escalated into violence a couple times, so anytime I get close to anyone I wind up imagining the worst that could happen and push them away as quickly as possible. So a lot of people think I'm gay because of this too.

The stress of living with them made me do stuff like pick at my nails, inside of my mouth and lips until they were bleeding and one time my mother asked if my dad ever molested me. Why the fuck would you even want stay with someone if you think they might've assaulted their own kid.

>>28766526
I don't even care that much anymore honestly.
It happened, shit sucks but I can't change it.
Hell, I've told the story to anons here before, even fap to some of the memories.
This is /r9k/, most of us are already fucked beyond repair, may as well enjoy the ride.

>>28766597
>even fap to some of the memories

This feel. I hear you. I do this too sometimes, it was my very first time doing anything so... of course it's going to stand out in your mind as like ultimate definition of eroticness.

>>28766185
>Like an icy cold and sick feeling which triggered me to memories of being molested (mostly in the bathroom)

I know that feel. One time a couple of years ago when I lived with my grandmother my little cousin had a friend over and they were playing dress up- do not remember why I went into the room but when I walked in first thing I see is her friend dressed in a see through nightie that they fished out from my aunts drawer, undies, and high heels and nothing else. My blood went cold and my mind went blank and the real fucked up part is after that initial shock I felt a lust come over me that was way too fucking much to deal with. At the same time this little girl (whose like 8) tries to walk past me, saying "we're gonna go show everyone our outfits :DD" they were actually planning to strut around the house where grown ass men were smoking and drinking like that, that shit snapped me out of it real quick. I got scary angry and demanded them both to quit fucking around and change out of that right this second or I wouldn't let them out of the room until they did. Waited outside the door until they obliged, which they did cause I lost my temper out of shame and fear for their innocence. My little cousin was more modest, thank god, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I felt ever that way towards her.

The shit kids learn from tv, fucking Christ

>>28766633
>of course it's going to stand out in your mind as like ultimate definition of eroticness.
Yea, I'm sure it's why I'm so into /ss/ and ryona too. On the plus side, things could have been much worse.

>>28766633
And I hate people who think that because you fap to the memories and experience it means that you wanted it because it doesn't mean that.

>>28766697
Yea I've had experiences like this sort of. One kid that I took care of was like just my 'type' he was a chubby redhead who worshiped and loved me and he had this habit of getting right up next to me when I talked and I just be sort of mean to him and tell him not to stand so close and not to ever touch me and things like that. He probably always saw it as rejection but really I was afraid of getting aroused by him.

>>28766698
I identify non-sexually as a little. It's not sexual for me when I'm in a little mode but I think that the molestation could of had something to do with me having to mentally and emotionally travel back like that. I'll feel an urgency to retain and have back(?) my innocence.

I never heard of ryona before now but I looked it up.

>>28766835
>It's not sexual for me when I'm in a little mode but I think that the molestation could of had something to do with me having to mentally and emotionally travel back like that.
I can kind of understand that.
For the most part when I look at /ss/ I don't even masturbate to it, I usually just read it for that tingly feeling in my stomach.
It's hard to describe but maybe you've gotten it too? Kind of like butterflies in your stomach.
I dunno, maybe I'm more fucked up than I thought.
>I never heard of ryona before now but I looked it up.
Great fetish if you're into abuse.

>>28766985
How were you molested? Obviously you don't have to share, so don't if you don't want to.

One of the first times I was touched it was my step grandfather btw, I remember we were just talking about my body and he was commenting on how hot I was but especially in regards to my vagina, and then when he went to touch it (I was really scared btw) and commented on how tiny it was and how that was cute. I think (but am not sure) this caused me to have a huge exhibitionism fetish, pretty much an obsession with showing off my vagina online. And it's the comments that excite me like nothing else but always draws me back to that one defining experience.

>>28767074
And with my husband he has a lot of anxiety regarding sex when I show him my pussy sometimes he will start shivering and stuttering like actual fear (but still getting hard).

Even though I'm a dom I don't like abuse I don't like people who request it either. I feel like that's what makes me a 'real' dom I exclusively want to do what I want at the exact leisurely amount of time that I want. That's also why my current partner is like the exact level of vanilla that I require.

T. a girl friend of mine's father is a pedophile and went to federal prison for CP. She ended up being a hooker and now that he's out she actually lives back with him and it is horrible. I tried to show her a better life and things didn't work out and now I'm eternally on /r9k/ cuz feels

Jeez, this thread just confirms that rape victims are melodramatic attention seekers. Someone touched you inappropriately when you were a kid. Get over it. Rape is not worse than murder. The world is not coming to an end. You're not special. This is what bullshit millenial parenting produces.

>>28767074
It's probably the memory I masturbate the most to as well it was around that time he was teaching me how to play with it as well.

>>28767185
No one ever said rape was worse than murder. Just that child rapists should maybe me murdered.

>>28767248
It's implied. Try not being functionally retarded.

Male here, I was molested by my aunt when I was 6/7. Not the hot kind, the semi fat, im drunk and want to be in control for once kind.

Only person I ever told was my high school counselor, he seemed uncomfortable and kept changing the subject so I just went with it. Can't blame him really, if he believed it he would be obligated to go to the police and any one that fucks with woman directly or indirectly then and now gets screwed over in some shape or form. I moved on from it, it happened, at the time I did not really understand and did not care till around middle school where hearing about this sort of thing made me feel victimized.

>>28767074
>How were you molested?
It was more an on and off thing over a few years (until I got into high school).
Older sister was (and is) a shithead and a drug addict, I actually don't remember a lot of my late childhood and adolescence too well, but I remember one of the first times I remember doing anything with her was when she made me drink with her and played with my dick. For the most part though, it was usually just fights that turned into wrestling and eventually sex. She also threatened me with:
>cutlery
>broken bottles
>furniture
>plates
I've even got a little dent in my forehead from when she basically beaned me with a glass plate.
Honestly, I don't even hate her all that much for the molestation/rape, I hate her for all the fighting and beatings.
She also introduced me to 4chan when I was 11, so there's that.
>>28767185
>>28767272
Where is anyone implying that rape is worse than murder?

>>28767282
What a shit for brains counselor.

>>28766835
Holy shit, now I know why I can be so mean to kids and do the exact same thing- get uncomfortable when they're too close or touch me, never show affection besides a small pat on the head and shoot them down when they just want to be accepted. Fuck. I didn't want to hurt them but it seems that happened anyway all cause of subconscious shit that I can't control.

It's better to reject them than lose yourself (I wouldn't but you never really know) and ruin their lives, for their own good. What's funny is I can identify and get along with children more than most adults, they see me different or like someone who they can trust and will pick me out of people that they see way more often to play pretend with them or just like to involve me in their games. I've gotten jealous looks from bfs family members cause their blood will play with me way more than them and I only come around maybe twice a year.

This shit is all fucked. I'm going to see a therapist as soon as I can afford it.

>>28763784
1)What was it like to have sex at 8 years old with your own dad?
2)How did you feel about yourself during he 1100 days molestation period?

>>28764122 (nice swifts)
My cousin dated some tumlr-tier cunt that did exactly this, said she got pulled into a van and raped in a small town next to her dad's small business.
The best part: she had never told anyone about it except him! Oh, and she also had a kid she carried and gave away too!
I told him this was one of the largest red flags, along with her tattoos and chameleon-like personality that she's bad news and needs to fuck off forever.

>>28767185
Rape is worse than murder
It's why torture is worse than murder.
Ending a life is nothing comparing to inflicting pain or suffering.

People think that just because someone does that the person suffered. They don't think, feel, or see anymore. They're dead.

Tell me any victim of radiation sickness would not have wanted to be killed rather than die a slow painful death.

Rape and any type of abuse is worse than being shot in the head. No dead person is suffering right now. Only the living.

>>28767341
This is probably worse as far as violence goes than my molestation, my molester never actually inserted anything into me though. When I was around 15 was when I got raped by an abusive bf at the time, it was my first time. It caused me to become very isolated until later when I became fixated on having sex with lonely virgins and girls.

>>28764122
Women are not sluts by nature. You need to stop pretending men and women aren't equally degenerate.

You see what happens when men become traps or homosexual? They have far more sex than any woman.

>>28767424
>When I was around 15 was when I got raped by an abusive bf at the time
Man, kind of makes me glad I got to avoid most of the high school bullshit and just played vidya/fapped after school.

>>28767424
>until later when I became fixated on having sex with lonely virgins and girls.

Someone explain this "childhood sexual experiences makes you want to relive said experience as an adult" meme

>>28767423
If they would rather have been killed they can kill themselves right now and end the supposed suffering. They won't because not even rape victim believe their own incessant whining.

>>28767377
>It's better to reject them than lose yourself (I wouldn't but you never really know) and ruin their lives, for their own good. What's funny is I can identify and get along with children more than most adults, they see me different or like someone who they can trust and will pick me out of people that they see way more often to play pretend with them or just like to involve me in their games. I've gotten jealous looks from bfs family members cause their blood will play with me way more than them and I only come around maybe twice a year.

Yea this is all me as well. I actually feel more relaxed around kids other than that fear of being attrated to them. I respect them more because of the innocence and unknowing. I'd also avoid spending too much time with him even or looking him in the eyes or things like that, they probably pick up on it that you are trying to avoid them, and in that way they learn to be more manipulative. Basically like I did when I was a kid. Because of being molested I pretty much got signals that sex was my use and that I could get things (especially toys and gifts and attention) by being sexual.

To give you advice even though you weren't molested so you don't know this personally don't act on attraction to children. Yea it's not probably better it's defiantly better. If you actually love a child you will see this, because molesting them is pretty much bringing yourself down to the level of an animal as far as following primal instincts goes.

>>28767400
It wasn't by my dad it was by step grandfather, and there was no sex and no insertion it was molestation like touching and fondling.

During that period of time he would groom us like when we were alone he'd act differently he'd touch and massage me and my cousin and show us things about how body and also watched us bath and later he would show us how to massage certain parts of our selves and each other. He never got his dick out in front of me but

>>28767546
Are you really trying to shit on people that were raped in childhood?

Someone put this whole child molestation thing into a perspective a non-sexually abused robot can understand.

Is it like if your parent emotionally neglected you during childhood you'll end up emotionally neglecting other people? Actually, bad example but it's the best i can come up with

>>28767557
I'd feel it up through the pants while it was hard. He also kind of trained us I guess. Like he would make it into a game and things so we'd be proud and rewarded, he also told us that he loved us a lot and that the touching was an expression of love.

>>28767517
I didn't want to relive it or like reenact it I wanted to feel in control instead of being the one whos getting fucked doing the fucking and nurturing so aiming for really shy virgins so I could have full sexual control of the situation. But virginity wasn't the only thing I looked for there had to be a submissive edge to them as well. So I guess it was like recreating an ideal that I never got to experience.

>>28767569
He posed a valid question and you're not going to answer it because it's not PC friendly?

>>28767569
Are you really trying to shit on people that were murdered? Sorry buddy, getting touched in the V or the D isn't a big deal.

>>28767569
This post made me believe in humanity.

>>28767626
I can only imagine a grown ass man destroying a 8 year old girls vagina with his dick as 'not a big deal'

>>28767546
Personally I'd much rather deal with my issues with rape than be dead.
It sucks sometimes sure, but it's better than being dead.
That said, I think it's definitely a pretty big issue.

>>28767626
Well when I was raped as a teenager my bf would use murder as a threat, either murder of me but if that didn't work it would be my family or himself.

And the other guy posting in this thread was directly threatened with violence. So sure we weren't murdered but the fear of the possible murdering was happening and that's pretty much the definition of big T trauma.

>>28767606
But if you want to feel in power shouldn't you be fucking the abuser instead of taking it out on strangers who werent the ones to inflict upon you? E.g. Initiating sex with the molester as a way to show that you're in control.

What youre saying is like taking out your frustration on your wife and kids because your coworkers were being assholes.

>>28767701
Teenagers make all kinds of empty threats. I doubt he wouldve gone through with it. He definitely wasnt going to murder your family, if anything he's most likely to kill himself than any other person

>>28767720
You have a good point. I think at the time though the way that sex was being presented was that these guys were so lonely and sad and that sex was the tool of good not of abuse to comfort them.

So I think that's tied back to molestation description here:

>>28767557
>>28767606
>Like he would make it into a game and things so we'd be proud and rewarded, he also told us that he loved us a lot and that the touching was an expression of love.

Then I wouldn't rape anyone or use threats, violence, or cruelty in any way (unless it was something they wanted). But you still have a point with what you said, but that's sort of how the experience trickled down as far as how I saw it. Basically taught that giving a guy sex is the best reward they can get, and that it should take a lot of effort on their part especially monetarily. But instead of that I would sort of choose based on pity. As in the guy who I felt t he most sorry for was probably most deserving of the gift of sex.

>>28767557
I was molested and that's why I guess I never really grew up (partner even told me once he felt bad having sex with me sometimes because it felt like having sex with a little kid, it's fucked up that turned me on) And probably why I can relax around kids too, they're not as judgmental of awkward quiet behavior and are innocent enough to accept everyone, it's very beautiful. I wouldn't though, ever, I love my family and those other kids too much to ruin their innocence like that. I know it fucked me up and would probably murder someone if I found out they tried that shit with any of them because I wouldn't want them to go through the mental hurdles I've had to go through. Now I know why I'm apprehensive of starting a family as well.

I channel my issues in drawing and hentai. It helps a lot. I keep myself in check and have a lot more attraction to adults so it's a small little demon I have to live with.

Thanks for this, I figured out a lot with just this little talk

>>28767783
Sometimes I wish he had. After I finally managed to get out of the relationship he was a huge stalker but then he married and raped her too and it was the same story, raped and abused (hit and punched) and after she left he stalked her. A third girl poped up after her who also experienced all of that from him but was only 17.

>>28767834
>3 women all go for the same asshole
Fucking hell.

>>28767557
Australian detected

Sju

>>28767817
>(partner even told me once he felt bad having sex with me sometimes because it felt like having sex with a little kid, it's fucked up that turned me on)
This is me and my husband 100% T_T... The dynamic turns him on too. So the guilt I have turns into a predatory sweetness. We've waited pretty much because I want to draw out the emotions as long as possible, it's like the best kind of torture imaginable.

>>28767869
Yea but he acted really nice at first, like he was just misunderstood.

>>28767886
>>28767817
I feel these abused experiences ties in with why im a robot. I was never abused but something happened to me to fear living my life, like im afraid of doing things with my life, im afraid of putting effort into my life, i find comfort in escapism e.g. Anime, 4chan.

Someone enlighten me.

>>28767918
>the nice guy finish last saying is real

Just tell us how your boyfriend got you into his pants already so we lonely virgins can learn.

>>28767936
Maybe, it can really fuck you up.
Hell, in high school I had my own little near-Columbine freakout.
I wrote shitty fan-fic tier stories about killing my sister, complained about normalfags and fantasized about killing them, cut on a regular basis, and drew some legit edgelord artwork that a 12 year old would be embarrassed of.
Hilariously enough, if not for 4chan mellowing me out with mountains of porn, I probably would have shot up my school, or at least killed my sister.
I think 4chan can actually be pretty helpful for people who are so far-gone that there's no other option.

>>28767936
Me too and lots of shrinks would throw around words like avoidant and agoraphobic at me about that.

>>28767546
Well maybe if you weren't a fucking retard you would realize that not even suicidal people kill themselves because nobody actually wants to have to die. That doesn't mean they aren't suffering or suffering enough.

>>28767463
That's because they have a fucking pussy, dumbass. That is the privilege of having one.

>>28767626
You're probably the same type of faggot who thinks female raping a male is not a big deal. Fucking off yourself you sad excuse for a human being. Murder and rape should be punished the same. There is no reason why we should be keeping people alive who would physically and mentally harm others.

Waaah waah what if I rape someone I don't wanna die
Then don't rape people you scum

>>28767886
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has this sort of dynamic with their spouse. It feels too good, man.

>>28767936
I notice in any chan there are anons with childhood issues who like to escape reality with drugs, anime, comics, whatever. Don't know why either.

>>28768033
Do you fear failure?
Do you fear challenging tasks/activities?

>>28768070
Most suicidal people are also attention whores.

>>28768135
No. Most attention whores use any excuse to get more attention. That's why people say depression isn't real because other people who experience regular sadness use the word casually.

>>28768180
Like exaggerating their problems, like rape victims and suicidal people do.

>>28768128
>Do you fear failure?
Yes.
>Do you fear challenging tasks/activities?
Maybe? Not if they entertain me.

>>28768230
Real rape victims and real suicidal people don't exaggerate. They probably don't even tell anyone. Nice try but just because you believe what everyone writes on the internet for their epic Reddit r/4chan post doesn't mean it's true.

>>28768128
Not him but yeah.
I realize why on some level I hate so many of the normal males at Uni and that is because they remind me of bullies n sheit

>>28768230
Not all of them.
Some people are just retarded and do not have the capacity to understand the consequences of their actions like niggers, attention whores, and girls who call false rape

>>28768259
>"Real"
AKA, bigger attention whores. I don't speak scottish

>>28768230
People who think rape victims and suicidal people are exaggerating have probably never experienced anything in life other than being spoiled and sheltered by their parents.

>>28768230
Oh and I am a male that was molested/rape/diddledoo'd but I never told anyone because my own fear and shame of feeling like i'd done something wrong.
t. him>>28768267

>>28768094
I should put this out there to people who want to kill themselves.

I once stabbed my own forearm because my parents were giving me too much shit.

Guess what? It didnt even hurt. After a little while your body kind of gets stiff then it feels like your breathing isnt bringing in enough oxygen and you kind of, KIND OF lose consciousness like youre about to pass out.

From said experience. I am certain if i ever i want to kill myself I would use use a serrated knife to cut my own throat while standing on top of a building, it doesnt even have to be a tall building. It wouldnt even be that bad.

We can all agree we fear the process of killing ourselves and the unknown of what it feels like, but really once you commit yourself to do it and get into the act, itll probably turn out a lot easier than you expected

Psych grad here.

Being raped is a loss of control of your body, your sexuality. Being a slut is an over-compensating way of taking control and ownership of your sexuality.

>>28768259
>If they speak out about their abuse they are not real victims
fuck you ignorant cunt, I know you never experienced the horrors of being molested

>>28768281
Usually they're just not blind or deaf and have more than half of their brain functioning properly.

>>28768318
Can you spot someone who was a sexual abuse survivor? I am that anon who was confused that others could tell even when they hadnt known me for very long

>Female rape/molestation victims
>Often go on to lead normal lives with husbands, families, etc.
>Male rape/molestation victims
>Often turn out FUBAR, many committee suicide or turn into serial killers
Yay or nay?

>>28768318
Being raped only traumatises a person if they are in an intense emotional state during the rape. If the person calms down and thinks rationally about the situation at hand, then if she has gotten raped she wouldnt comes out of it feeling traumatised and victimised.

>>28768318
Guy with fucked up childhood here

Physical abuse is also a loss of control of your body especially when you're so young your abuser can literally just pick you up with one harm and flail you around like a bag of potato

But well, apparently since female sexuality is so precious, everyone keeps agreeing a single bad touch on a female is worth more than years of routinely beatings on a male

Thank you feminism

>>28768388
Its called moving on, similar to how robots had shitty high school lives. The only thing stopping male rape victims from getting better is their ego in not letting go. They chose to become consumed by the experience

>>28763605
I was abused and never learned how to masturbate until the age of 21. I could still get erections and shit, but never actually knew how to get myself to come without the aid of a woman. Even then, receiving oral sex in high school only tickled.

>>28768367

No, they were making assumptions that just happened to be right.

The only indicator I would say there is of being a sexual abuse victim is an abnormally strong emotional reaction to sexual stimulai, whether it be aversion or attraction.

>>28768455
I would argue that the anon that was beaten and molested by his sister had it worse than robots who were picked on in high school.

>>28768435
Except youre no longer that same child who can be picked up wih one arm and be flailed about like a bag of potatoes.

You need to Move on

>>28768404
>having your body, personal space, sense of control, dignity and agency brutally violated
>thinking about it "calm and rationaly"
top kek, can tell that you have never been raped
Many people react to trauma differently, some come out more unscathed than others from what I understand.. but being traumatised and having it mess you up is entirely natural and NOT the victims fault at all

>yfw the average robot would give their left nut to get their dick wet by any means possible even if involuntary
and here you are complaining about it.

check your privilege, rapees

>>28768388
What on earth makes you think that rape and molestation dosent have an adverse effect on women?
Oh right this is r9k, women dont have souls etc etc

>>28768483
the principle's the same

Is said anon still getting rekt by his sister as of today? No? Then time to move on with said life.

>>28768509
nice meme faggot

>>28768388
This happens, again, because of shame and bottling things up over years. Not to mention society teaches boys and men not to show emotion or cry.

>>28768455
Its very hard not to be consumed with the experience of being raped

>>28768522
M8, I'm just making an observation.
Hell, even ITT the women have spouses.
I doubt the guys have even had GFs.

>>28768404
what about people that were drugged and unconscious during their rape? it's still traumatizing, anon.

>>28768388
everyone handles trauma differently regardless of gender.

>>28768550
lmao you sound like one of those nu-male feminists. did you just get back from a lecture about toxic masculinity at your shitlib school?

>>28768542
>Just get over it!
Are you autistic?

>>28768497
lasting trauma during the formative years does not just go away. and abused anon, discounting the experiences of others does nothing to help you

>>28768502
>having your body, personal space, sense of control, dignity and agency brutally violated

If you accept it rationally that this is what is happening to you, then you would at least come out less traumatised if not traumatised at all.

The only reason it left such a huge mark on the victim is because said victim refuse to retroactively accept that they were powerless in just that specific incident.

It's a lot like that skinny kid in high school who eneded being a roided meathead because of a chip on his shoulder

>>28768596
Nice, yeah I took a government-mandated antiviolence class from a feminist. Some of it actually makes sense.
So how do you explain such a high male suicide rate, professor?

>>28768497
>You need to Move on
The flailing thing was just a colorful example

I mean once your mother tried to drown you, it gets kinda hard to just open up to people after that.

I mean, it's the one person that was supposed to be here and protect you no matter what and she tried to end your life at some point.

Do you realize how alone you feel after you've gone through that?

How am I supposed to open up to others after I spent so many years internalizing that stuff?

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>>28763605
>>28763784
>>28763872
It seems you either die a virgin, or live long enough to see yourself become the molester

>>28768566
female rape victim here, can't have lasting relationships, sex is painful and i cry every time and i have no sex drive so i simply do not partake, and i have chronic vomiting from anxiety

i can never be in a relationship because no one wants to be with someone they can't fuck.

your observation is just generalized, dawg

>>28768553
So in other words you chose to retroactively still be the victim even though the incident had already came to pass?

Your experiences affects how you view yourself and how you conduct yourself, but if you carry something negative f om the past into your present and future you can only blame yourself.

Yeh you were a sexually abused victim. Either move on or live in the past. The problem is the world doesnt wait for you.

>>28768682
>can't have lasting relationships, sex is painful
So you've had sex and (short) relationships outside of abuse?

>>28768659
I think you might be lost my dear little cuck, /r/MensLib is --> http://www.reddit.com/r/menslib

>>28768713
>Your experiences affects how you view yourself and how you conduct yourself, but if you carry something negative f om the past into your present and future you can only blame yourself.
It's less about carrying those negatives and more about having them develop over time.
In my case it's a fear of women and a lot of fucked fetishes.
It's hard to just completely drop something that's been slowly building since you were a kid (and likely still is), even if you want to.

>>28768568
>what about people that were drugged and unconscious during their rape? it's still traumatizing, anon.

Being unconscious is better because they wouldn't be able to emotionally connect with the event.

Regarding the drug, same thing applies, calm e fuck down surely you can still execute your train of thought while under a date rape drug.

Honeslty, trauma results because of the fear during rape.
I read an article on this woman had a brain problem which makes her incapable of experiencing fear. She had a history of abuse by her exbf and mugged/stabbed by niggers and she still just carries on her day normally. That tells me that it all comes down to he intense fear in feelng powerless associated with the event.

Id theorise if you were xanax'd (because it removes fear/anxiety and relaxes you) up before you were raped, you wont feel traumatised over it, or at least less traumatised.

>>28768609
>choosing to stay a vixtim

I bet if you saw a therapist. They'll eventually say something along those lines. If you're arent willing to let go you cant move on; you either move on or you dont. The world wont wait for you

>>28768800
>cuck
>men's lib
Which one is it?
I'm not saying men should act like faggots or bow down to women. I don't think there should be gender-neutral clothes, toys, games, anything of the sort.
But a lot of dudes are fucked up in the head and don't go to help or are scared to open up about shit, some are time bombs. And they can't get help because they worry about how it'll make them look.
Girls can get together and swap rape stories but very few dudes will just drop that bombshell on a group of their peers unprompted.
And a lot of that fault lies with toxic feminism, the kind that's been taught in this country for decades that says that only men can rape, men are all bad, if it happens to a man they deserved it, etc etc.
Cool memes tho dude got any more?

>>28768627
>self-defeating
ultimately, you either move on or you dont
Thats all it comes down to. I think you'd agree.

>>28769038
damn nigger, you're going to get an F on that feminist theory exam, you can't even get the terminology straight. menslib and cuckoldry is one and the same my little cuck.

>>28763605
Hypersexualization, the same thing happens with girls who went through a bad break up

>>28769138
Great cuck meme, but what does it mean friendo?

>>28768713
You say that like I dont want to move on, some events took place that devestated my entire reality when I was in my formative years, if I could turn it off like a light switch I would but day in day out I still dwell on it and it still effects my life.

>>28768662
Think about it logically. Is everyone you meet going to be like your mother? Surely you know the answer. Surely you know what you "internalised" isnt a true reflection of reality. But then why do you still choose to be defined by your past which had not reflection on general society? Why do you still hold onto that? Do you fear that you cant define your life in any other way? Why cant you let go? Is she still drowning your head in many years later? What eo you want? For her to apologise?

Ive repeated his many times. In the end it comes down to you moving on from this.

The sooner the better because the longer you wait the more it will define you.

Surely, you dont believe you can get better by holding onto the past that no one else gives a shit about aside from yourself and your abuser, right?

>>28769169
ask your gf's bf

>>28769018
Their job is to help you learn to cope with it and move on with your life, thats why therapists are there to help people with this stuff. They know its difficult, it takes a long time, they would not just say "get over it" because they know that you cant just get over it like that.

It takes a lot of work and a lot of time and support to come to a good place where you can compartmentalize what happened to you as a child and build a good life for yourself

You don't belong here if you had sex. Don't care if it was rape. GTFO normies REE

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>>28769276
Great responses, you should have your own motherfucking blog on breitbart!
You must be the master debater at your preppy university, taking me out with a linguistic kill-shot like that! Woo-hoo, I don't think I can take anymore! Back to my safe space!

>>28769174
You dont want to move on. Because moving on is no easy task, its likely a painful endeavour. You only like the idea/theory of moving on because you know, yes you know this, to actually move on brings forth so much inner angst,turmoil,agony that you'd rather sulk and cry victim. Its just so much easier that way.

I suggest you consider this post when youre in the middle of a shower or chucking a shit, or when youve closed your computer.

>>28769323
try not to get triggered again on your way out

>>28769358
Yes to a certian extent I am obsessed with my own past and I think about the man a lot. I kind of wallow in it and enjoy the tradgedy of it all in a way.. I would do anything to hit the reset button and live a life where terrible things did not happen though.
I tell myself I am going to move on and focus on the future and succeed for a while, but then old habbits creep up and im dwelling again and looking for r9k /wherediditgowrong/ type threads

>>28769444
this desu, I've been going on other /r9k/ to see that my life isn't as bad as it could be but i've gotten myself stuck there and it's hard to break away.

>>28769444
Which poster are you again? I had thought i was talking to the guy who got abused by his sister

>>28769511
No im not him im a femanon, I made a few posts further up in the thread

>>28767936
You too. Your problems are no different than what ive been talking about in my previous posts. As this anon mentioned >>28768120. All those people on chans who indulge in escapism are simply too afraid to move forward. Its actually a lot simpler than you think if you weren't such a self-defeatist.

I suspect someone or something or a series of events ultimately made you felt insignificant, unworthy as an individual. Oh and obviously it comes with the low self-esteem.

>>28769626
So what do i do with my life then? Unlike the ones who got abused im not even sure what cause me to be is way.

I date girls who i meet in forums and chatrooms who were previously molested or abuse. I make up a fake story about how older sister touched me and then end up in the girls pants.

My favorite girl was an asian girl who got diddled by her moms co-worker, she really tried to stay strong and mature but eventually I turned her mentally into a little girl we even bought kid panties it was really fucked up and I was high alot and I loved all of it. She became drug addicted and will probably commit suicide one day.

I'm facinated over how their voices turn into a 4 year old just because you touch them its kinda hot and interesting. Also you can slap them as much as you want.

>"normal" woman
>she has sex with chads and gets married
>raped woman
>she has MORE sex with chads and can't have a decent relationship
Why are women just shit at partners in general? They literally have no self-control when it comes to their sexuality.

>>28769671
>I suspect someone or something or a series of events ultimately made you felt insignificant, unworthy as an individual


Lets not beat around the bush here. If you just stop for one day spending your time living in escapism and sat down and really focused on what happened to you, with a pen and paper if you like, you'd likely find the answer. And also if you do the same thing for what you're suppose to do with your life now, you'll eventually also digure that out too.

Really, people like you are too lazy to help themselves. The fact youre asking me to direct your life is evidence of this. Actually no, its more like learned helplessness while falsely hoping someone will give you a magic wand and turn everything around for you. Not going to happen, be realistic.

I really like to stress this for people like you because of reasons stated above.

Always remember, you only have two polarising choices with your life as a starting point for everything.

You either
1) do
2) don't

You want to fill your void with escapism until your magic fairy comes? that's ultimately your own choice, dont blame your past for that. The past is in the past, youre he one bringing it with you to the present.

Or you choose to take control of the direction of your life no matter how painful. Really, theres no magic pill a doctor can give you to make you normal. i mean you can definitely try to sought out said magic pill, that actually means youre trying to take control of your own life. So theres that; until you eventually realise the only way to fix your life is the hard way.

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>>28769915
>being THIS normie
kek

>>28769915
The anon that mentioned escapism on chans here, out of curiosity what's your mbti type?

>>28768435
Male Rape happens. There are males who have been raped by women or other men. They deserve far more than you do faggot
Try being raped.

it's because by decreasing the "value" of sex by having it voluntarily a lot, the traumatic event becomes less of a big deal.
If it seems like a normal activity that you willingly do with lots of people who you don't know that well, it numbs the shame and lack of control

>>28770862
>Muh 15 minutes of abuse are worth more than a lifetime of another kind of abuse
Dude you're literally just feeling entitled to special treatment because you happen to have a shot at riding the rape bandwagon

You're attitude is why mass shooters exist you braindead cunt

>>28770862
Most people who get raped still have people to support them

A kid who gets abused by his parent literally has no one to turn to whatsoever

You're a massive cunt

>>28770969
>D-dude rape is like nothing man get over it dude
get the fuck out

>>28771504
>got raped in the ass
>gets mad at people who disagree when he claims rape is the single worst kind of abuse to have ever existed
Literal butthurt

>>28769915
This guys 100% right though.
Escapism is a bitch and once I turn on the tv or computer I'm not thinking about what I need to do with my damn life.
I do have massive learned helplessness due to my upbringing and then learning to rely on some gibsmedats.

And I tell my mom this because she's a lazy depressed bitch that doesn't do shit either, I tell her she can made a decision to get up and do something or keep being a loser and sit around not doing a fucking thing, the bare minimum.
That's why she's 59 years old and still can't fucking make it to work on time, she's a sad fucking slob. Disgusting.

>>28769966
Checked, but I don't see anything wrong with Banana Wolverine, uguu

>>28770574
ISTP. Probably not what you were expecting

>>28773685
Honestly I was expecting anything that wasn't INFP- but yeah something ending in a J was in my mind

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>>28763893

TELL US STORIES FROM TREATMENT. the most fucked up, depraved, shitty ones that left bitches emotionally damaged beyond repair.

i want to fap

I knew this huge slut back in the day that got molested and sexed full on as a child. She grew up to be one of the biggest sluts I've ever known. She's LITERALLY had sex with well over a hundred men. I'm not fucking kidding, don't believe me, that's your choice, but I aint making that shit up.

She sat there once and stone faced told us that she "only" fucked 11 guys. We ALL knew that was a lie, we could count 30+ dudes off the top of our heads that we could confirm fucked her.

She'd also get into semi-long term relationships with a lot of guys but ALWAYS cheat on them as much as possible and almost always with their friends. She came onto me a lot but I never did anything, she made some guys dick bleed because of her disgusting STDs.