Why do you neet cucks assume the role of women experts? You consistently speak as though you know females in and out despite the fact that you are virgins. You have no contact with females other than your mom. You are pathetic.
You people get your views of woman through porn, anime, and the internet. These are not representative of females in the real world.
Your words fall on deaf ears and dimb minds friend.
nah we get out views of women through rejection of voyeuristic observance in populated social settings and stuff.
>>28636471
You are worse than OP, since you can't even be bothered to form a thought for yourself.
OP is wrong, most here and people in general get all opinions and belief from direct experiences. It's basic psychology.
>>28636486
have you ever tried going to the library instead of like a club or something?
Nice, non whore women go there.
>>28636564
yeah, but half, if not all, of your experiences are from your room on the computer. Every little bit of your life affects your perceptions and psychology. When you spend a lot of time here, your views are easily warped.
![5772714-Canine-trainer-holding-a-pet-treat-for-jumping-dog-Stock-Photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/beMVy9p.jpg "5772714-Canine-trainer-holding-a-pet-treat-for-jumping-dog-Stock-Photo[1].jpg")
>>28636627
>When you spend a lot of time here, your views are easily warped.
less easily than from many alternate perspectives
>>28636776
I'd argue more easily, since you are being barraged with the whole
>all women are whores and will manipulate you for your money and eventually fuck a chad and cuck you
line of bull, it becomes ingrained into your head.
When you have many different perspectives, you can more easily critically analyze them because you get a whole field of perspectives instead of one repeated narrative.
>>28636584
can't really sling dick at a women getting her study on right personal space and shit i feel like at a library i'll just be bothering her. in fact every time i tried to seal the deal i felt like i was bothering her. you right tho im gonna try it out. I asked a mormon missionary girl out once but she and her friend laughed at me and said no. they said i made things awkward. I'm not of the all girls are whores persuasion autist as i realize yknow everyone has different standards when it comes to sex even though i do get butt frustrated often because i'm a khv i'm just fucked up and i dont think i have anything to offer to outweigh that. but i'm not gonna give up i'm gonna still throw my heart even if it doe get banged up and bruised even more so
>>28636584
>women at the library want to be bothered by ugly manlet neets
They really don't.
>>28637033
stop being ugly.
oh shit you can't
HAHAHAHA
you know a study once showed that the majority of the current genes passed down are female genes. Lots of men apparently never reproduce, tough luck bud.
I forgot you guys are just bitter ugly losers.
that really sucks. But I'm balding, so your looks don't always mean anything.
>>28636421
>These are not representative of females in the real world.
What makes you think those representations are any better? Throw a few sprinkles in there.
That the world today is different than a few decades before is evident
http://imgur.com/r/ChangingRooms
People have experience and evolutionary psychology redpill babble gives them a reasonable explanation for why girls don't want to do with them.
Crying doesn't help anyone, and claims like "no girl will never be your gf if you have a 4 inch dick and are 5'8" are silly and obviously not derived from actual interaction with girls,
but the merit of places like this is that people can talk without silencing themselves down to political correct thoughts
>>28637104
>i'm balding
>i'll just lie to myself that it doesn't matter
Yeah, most of us here are past that point. You'll get here someday too, bud.
>>28637153
most women aren't pornstars. Most women don't go around projecting whore like behavior. I'm sure those who are really do suck and there are whore women who will cuck you, but you guys act like all of them are like this. In the real world, it is less likely to come across a pornstar whore cheater.
>>28637227
I have a gf who I love, and she loves me. Our lives are filled with passion, and yes, my hairline is fleeing.
>>28637273
She's cheating on you with someone better.
Enjoy taking care of your wife's son as you' get older, fatter, and balder.
>>28636584
>Nice non-whore
>women
Oxymoron nowadays senpai
The only one that aren't is because they lack the possibility to do it
>>28637339
lol, you wish you pathetic loser.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to make yourself believe a successful relationship is impossible.
>>28637463
this is exactly what I was addressing in the OP. How are you the expert on all women? What gives you the authority to make that statement?
>NEET with a gf
>argue about women with a bunch of people that have never had one as a friend let alone a romantic relationship with one
It's not usually real robots that post the misogyny shit either. Some of them go along with it but the most part the real ones are too busy wallowing in self pity and sadness, anger would take energy they don't have. It's these blowhard losers from /r/theredpill that found their way to /r9k/ after checking out /pol/ and think this is the place to go preach.
>>28637645
It's retard-tier ideology.
>>28637616
congrats on getting your first girlfriend. congrats again on banging your first fat chick.
see you in a year when you realize life is better without women or she inevitably cheats on your spineless ass.
>>28637732
Yup. Everything is terrible and you should just give up on life because I found this study with a small sample size and interpreted it in a way that supports my biases. If you disagree with me you're a bitch cunt whore slore or a beta nu male white knight.
It's practically a religion for these freaks.
>>28637764
Should have added "cuck" on the end after white knight. My bad.
>>28637256
It's not about what you project, it's about what you actually fucking DO HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT NOT REGISTER WITH YOU?!
>>28638151
That's why you have to get to know women. You need to really take the time to figure out what they're all about. It could be just fine and everything seems smooth but what happens when you fight? You can't expect to never have a fight with your partner.
All of us as humans regardless of gender have fucked up shitty qualities. Basically you need to find someone you can accept even when you see their shitty side.
>>28637739
lol
u r mad
lol
>>28636421
NEET cucks know more about human nature than anyone. That's half the reason why they're too depressed to do fuck all.
>>28636421
It's bait, you idiot! And you fell for it, every time!
>>28638439
the way you communicate makes me think you're under 25 and inexperienced, so your opinion on women is basically worthless. have fun being committed to a relationship with a gross chick while all the other young guys around you are banging hotties.
>>28638225
>implying I haven't
>implying my shitty side is worse than theirs
>>28638666
>gross
not really. Other guys attempt to get with her, but she denies them and is faithful to me, but sure, whatever made up bullshit you need to tell yourself to get on. Meanwhile you are banging no one, have no one important in your life, and are projecting your own experiences onto mine. Please end yourself asap. You are a genetic dead end.
HEY ASSHOLE, ZOOLOGISTS DON'T NEED TO FUCK A LION TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR BEHAVIORS.
>>28636584
Cannot confirm, approached a girl based on her intellectual book choice.
Still she's a roasty. Chads get everything.
>>28638745
i've been through more women than you've gotten blowjobs from your landwhale gf. talk about projecting, lol.
i'm 28 and work as a network design consultant and probably make more money than your whole deadbeat family combined. "genetic dead end" lol, look no further than the mirror your genetic filth.
you're young, stupid as fuck, and naive. if you're lucky you might grow out of it.
>You people get your views of woman through porn, anime, and the internet. These are not representative of females in the real world.
Bullshit.
I've known many women. You think like we're some kind of subterranian creatures that have never seen the light of day when you forget that everyone starts out as a normalfag.
And from what minor normalfag experiences I've had, all women are fucking retarded cunts. All of them.
>>28636865
I agree the redpill gospel largely nonsense. However, I don't think what is going on is any sort of indoctrination, or any sort of brainwashing.
The red pill philosophy is a myth, to be sure, but it's important to bear in mind just what need a myth satisfies. Human beings have a deep-rooted need to make sense of what is otherwise incomprehensible, to impart meaning upon something that is inherently meaningless. The alternative is chaos, and chaos is terrifying.
The men who are taken in by the red pill myth are trying to make sense of what is otherwise senseless and, by virtue of that, terrible. There are a small segment of men that no woman wants, men who see nothing but revulsion in the eyes of women when they meet their gaze. These men are hurt, they have been rejected on a fundamental level. They have been judged and found unworthy to experience what the vast majority of all other men do.
These reviled men look around. They see criminals who have women love them. They see ugly men, fat men, short men, all of whom still have experienced sexual affection. Yet they themselves are somehow lesser in the eyes of women than all of these. How to make sense of it?
The redpill philosophy provides answers. Those men aren't really loved or desired. Women are using them for their resources. That woman who loves the criminal? She doesn't really love him, she's attracted to his bad-boy status.
Of course, that's nonsense. Women love bad boys, good boys, rich boys, poor boys, fat boys, thin boys. Very few people die virgins.
To face the fact one is a man who no woman wants is like staring at face of Nature and seeing a vicious, idiotic monster. It's liking staring into the jaws of Pandemonium.
The red pill gospel promises salvation in the face of Hell. And never underestimate the lies a man will believe to save himself from its flames.
>>28638774
But a sociolagist would actually talk to a woman.check and m8 you cheeky cunt
>>28638897
>>28638933
A tripfag is preaching. What a day to be alive.
Btw, if you cant put it simple, it is bullshit no matter what it is.
>>28638854
you literally aren't worth responding to after this, my gf is not a landwhale despite your insistence.
You are bitter, I get that, but note that there are good people, including women, out there.
>>28638883
yee
>>28638854
I dont see why any normie would start this thread and feel threatened over what bunch of virgins and men who fucked abnormally high number of women think. Cuz trough out history woman was never known as pinnacle of rational and intelligent thought/action.
Yet you come here and argue. What does it mean to you what we believe? Unless you fear IT IS SO yourself?
BTFO
>>28636421
>you neet cucks
What did you tell about assuming ?
>>28638966
so you didn't read his post did you, also that is put simply.
>>28638986
I'm just shocked how some people can have such a warped and depressed worldview.
>>28639010
Motherfucker once more :
>tl;dr
This isnt a college essay.
You are not expert putting work for validation.
Acting like it makes you look like a sperg.
>>28639050
Then go be shocked somewhere elsewhee.
>>28639053
you dumb ass nigger... that was not even a paragraph. College essays are 11 pages.
tl;dr you're an idiot
>>28639068
I just wanted to hear your rationalizations for the belief, and they aren't very good desu.
>>28639086
Jesus christ my sarcasm went right over your head.
>>28639103
They are good enought for me.
You are free to believe what you want.
But as said before, if you were sure about your beliefs you wouldnt be here.
Dunno whats nagging you at the back of your skull, but I see it clearly.
You dont get me, and I dont get you.
>>28639160
don't psychoanalyze me you delusional faggot. I don't belive in the 'redpill' and I have no nagging feeling.
>>28639183
hahahahaha
jeezus is this the best axample of freudian overcompensation or what?
sure fella, sure. No hard feels aight?
bdw Im not the anon u fought with.
Just a smug passerby.
>>28639183
That was defensive.
Are sure about that ?
>also, whole thread is about psychoanalyzing robots hate for woman and also I will do whatever the fuck I want
>>28639249
>freud
he was a hack fyi.
>>28639183
>>28639249
Things like theese make me question when I am speaking to actual person, and when I am speaking to some agency who gets payed to create conflicts
>>28639316
SHIT
he found us out
>OP cannot fathom common sense principles which can be learned via basic observation in the field
OP DO YOU EVEN EXIST
OP IS either:
1)a delusional woman
2)a guy with fresh crush and high hopes she is not a woman after all
I hope she isnt OP, I wish you look.
Show us wrong.
Live the fairy tale.
>>28636421
I get my information about women from science and (partially) social testimony. And I know them better than you vagcucks ever will.
>>28639330
You can tinfoil hat me all you want but it isa fact.
This thread alone is product of one of such agency.
>>28638682
You need to find someone on your level. If I have an argument with my girlfriend and we get pissed off at each other usually we settle it in less than ten minutes. My ex used to stay mad about shit like that for weeks.
>>28638933
that...holy shit
r9k explained in one post
>>28638854
You don't sound like that great of a person honestly. I'm not surprised you can't find someone you can have a decent relationship with.
>>28638933
I agree with everything except it not being brainwashing or indoctrination. People that are struggling in life and otherwise might find their way are being led down a path of lifelong failure.
>>28638933
Your post makes sense but you don't explain how those men are supposed to solve their problems.
If the beta bullshit that the mainstream media perpetuates is wrong, and the red pill ideology is also wrong, then what is the right choice of action?
>>28639797
You need a good bullshit detector to make it through this life anon. Think about it as like being a Democrat or a Republican. Both parties are full of shit and pander and try to divide and conquer different groups of people in order to get power. No matter what comes out of their mouths they're ultimately interested in the same thing, getting voted back in so they can get more money.
The red pill shit on the other hand is a fringe ideology. There's always fringe movements and groups just waiting for the right opportunity to seize power. These guys are starting to feel pretty empowered, looks like the MAGA hat has replaced the fedora.
>>28638933
I love your posts. Keep up the good work, dude
>>28639722
Your point is very well taken. A person who falls into a cult because of his pain, his insecurity, his feeling of alienation is no less indoctrinated when he adopts the philosophy of the cult he has commended himself to.
I guess my problem with the whole thing is that a lot of the young men who adopt the red pill philosophy would be the first to reject it the moment a woman looks at him with something like desire in her eyes. The "truths" of the red pill gospel are quickly abandoned when faced with the far more immediate truths of Nature.
Remember the Eggman's black pill tirade? "All women are mendacious whores, all women will abandon a man the moment something better comes along." All of that. Fine and good, if he truly believed it. And yet, from what I've seen posted, the Eggman has a girlfriend. Does he believe his girlfriend is one of these women? Surely he should, according to his gospel. And yet he is with her nonetheless. Why? Because he found a woman who desires him and proved the black-pill nonsense to be a lie. For this, he was branded a heretic and a hypocrite by many. I don't consider him as such, however. He was a man who was proven wrong and did what all heretics should do when they learn their gospel is wrong; he recanted. Maybe he didn't do so with words, but certainly did so with his actions.
>>28636421
ITT: redditors responding to reddit bait
>Why do you neet cucks assume the role of women experts?
I never claimed to be an expert.
>You consistently speak as though you know females in and out despite the fact that you are virgins.
I for one only speak of what can be observed in any female, even if I am not putting my penis in her. Other opinions are based on stories I've heard many times, so I suppose I can't stand by those as firmly.
>You have no contact with females other than your mom
I sometimes talk to them in online games, or at cash registers at the store.
>You are pathetic.
Not an argument.
>You people get your views of woman through porn
I'd say women selling their bodies for money speaks volumes.
>anime
Anime would only make me have a positive opinion of women, since it is primarily fantasies imagined up by men that don't like real women.
>and the internet
I've spent and will spend most of my time on the internet, It's as good a place as any to learn.
>>28640086
That's pretty much what happened to me as well. I had a girlfriend before I became an edgy misogynistic robot. I was in a lot of pain though and I refused to accept that it could possibly be my own fault. I bought into the shit that was being perpetuated here every day.
At some point I realized something wasn't right though. Most of the posts here didn't seem to really be from actual people like me. It seemed like someone dedicated themselves full time to making sure this stuff was constantly reposted. Someone made sure those threads were bumped before they could expire and never die. Someone took great care to spread this stuff.
It also became apparent that it wasn't as widespread as I thought either. If I would go into the thread and start arguments against the /r/trp grade shit I'd usually only get 1-3 people at any given time arguing with me. The more I did it the more I started to see people that self identify as robots call these people out on their shit. Then there was the big debate over "Craig" and "bot threads" but it seems all of this was forgotten.
>>28638933
your core premise is flawed.
we no longer live in an age where 'few [men] die virgins', and one should really replace virgins with 'childless'.
there was a golden age of sociodynamics, let's say the last hundred or so years ago in the west, where men were generally paired up and had offspring.
now, we are closer to the long ago eras of harems.
remember, only 40% of men, historically, reproduced. Couple that with the distribution of humans over time, and you'll see that a long time ago, only alphas reproduced.
we are starting to see that now. Women will have a child with chad. The state or a beta will provide.
in the future, no betas will reproduce. They'll have sex, occasionally, but it's effectively neutered.
>>28640261
>remember, only 40% of men, historically, reproduced.
I've read that and, provisionally, I'm willing to accept it.
However, consider the circumstances of the two sexes historically over the course of human history. Which sex was more likely to die in violent conflict before having children? Conversely, which sex was more likely to be taken as concubines and sex slaves in the course of such conflicts? Considering both factors, which sex was more likely to have offspring over the course of our history? If the entire course of human history allowed only the beautiful to reproduce, there would be far fewer ugly people walking the earth today.
>>28640384
'good genes' are a meme. Genetic recombination gives you lemons more often than you'd realize, besides being only one component of fetal development.
while it is true that men were more likely to die than women, the end result is the same. The conqueror/chad reproduces, not the dead/beta.
generally, the pua movement was fairly flawed, but had kernels of truth. As it evolved over the last 20 years or so, lots of the findings have been proven true in psychological studies. Those may be cherry picked studies, but they are legitimate nonetheless.
I'm not much for arguing on the internet. All I know is that the ground has shifted out significantly under our feet with regards to social dynamics, women's expectations, and the ease of falling into an empty, neet life with shallow hedonism providing no reason to pursue what chad is handed nightly for merely showing up.
>>28640656
My NEET life isn't so empty though. I'm not an alpha, beta, or chad. I'm getting married to someone that appreciates me for who I am. I know that sounds absurd to you and you'll likely laugh and pull out some statistics you got on reddit to tell me I'm going to fail. It really doesn't matter what you think though. All my life I've been tasked with making the best out of next to nothing.
I never wanted to live like a normie. I never will. Bars, clubs, that kind of social life doesn't appeal to me. I found someone who feels the same. I plan to make sure my children aren't fed the lie that they can't be happy if they don't live up to society's expectations for them. That's the lie that fuels the majority of the misery on this board. I wasted years of my life believing that if I didn't find a way to fit into that mold that I'd never achieve my dreams. Now I know it's the biggest crock of shit ever.
So in closing fuck you for being part of the machine.
>>28640858
fuck you too buddy. I never said you couldn't find your own happiness or purpose or even that non alphas couldn't get sex, commitment, children.
I've been around only women my entire life
>single mom
>normie gay brother bringing many female friends at home to drink and talk
>only close friends are women
>family is like 80% women
>all coworkers were women
I've had enough time to observe them and get to know them and I've only met a handful of girls who are far away from the stacy persona.
Since I gave up on meeting an interesting girl in my town/country I've always treated them like any other person
Most girls like to use their pussy to get favors from people, when it doesn't work they start getting passive aggresive because you won't fall for their charm
>>28639797
>Your post makes sense but you don't explain how those men are supposed to solve their problems.
>If the beta bullshit that the mainstream media perpetuates is wrong, and the red pill ideology is also wrong, then what is the right choice of action?
It largely depends on the men we are speaking of.
There are very few men who are completely undesirable to every woman. It's a point I reiterate ad nauseam in these conversations, but necessarily so.
Men are so frightened by the red pill nonsense that they forget that the number of men who are completely undesirable are astronomically small. The men who are not completely undesirable, who still have a chance at sexual affection, are wrongfully crippled by the red pill myth. They learn to treat women as monsters rather than humans.
For those men, the only solution I can think of is to begin treating women as human beings. Fallible, weak, flawed human beings, to be sure. But in that sense, no different from any other human being. Evaluate each relationship for what it actually is and proceed from there. Life is difficult enough as it is; we needn't compound our sorrows with superstitions born of fear.
For those tiny number of men that no woman wants, well, the problem is far trickier, isn't it? And this is coming from one of those few men that no woman wants, a sad, angry wizard. A monster. A thing.
For such a man, he can only struggle to maintain his humanity despite the fact Nature hasn't given him license to live as humans do. However, he must always bear in mind that the women who find him disgusting do so because Mother Nature has dictated it so. As painful as our situation is, we can't blame the daughters for the sins of their Mother.
A man like me is a monster. He will never be loved, never be desired. However, he still has the possibility of decency even as he struggles in his chains. For a small number of men, this is all they can hope for.
Fortunately, there are very few men like me.
Psychologists don't follow the herd, they stand outside and observe it.
>>28640971
People like you always like to heavily imply that it's an inevitability though. The real beta uprising will happen when people like us, people that come to this board for whatever reason that has made them feel disenfranchised by society, begin to shed the labels that have been placed upon us by others and learn to accept ourselves. We've internalized the hate that others have given us and now we're destroying ourselves from the inside, like an infectious disease. We need to develop immunity to it.
>>28641053
no, all I'm saying is chad makes a vagina "flex", which is what I imagine the female equivalent of a rush of blood through a man's penis to be.
that's the core of what lots of robots should have learned a long time ago.
attraction is visceral. It can't be negotiated or manufactured. You will not be a woman's first choice. Women are whores, and have always traded their bodies for resources. Women are loathsome because they practice alpha fucks beta bucks and have manipulated the western political and legal system to not bring the hammer of the gods upon them when they get caught doing so.
#nohymennodiamond
>>28641448
I can make a woman cum too. It's not like it's some magical thing that's impossible to achieve. My girlfriend was a virgin when I met her, yeah. It helped that I already know how to make a girl cum. But you can't pretend like it's some masterful achievement. I've done tasks in video games that are much harder than giving my girlfriend a g spot orgasm.
>>28636421
Actually finger fucked a girl this weekend.
>>28636421
>You have no contact with females other than your mom
That's why my opinion on women is the most objective and unbiased
>>28641510
you misunderstand. I mean the sight of chad (6'2'', lean muscle, white, good facial aesthetics) makes a woman's vagina flex, or even starts secreting vaginal lubrication, much the same way your dick starts producing precum when you're sexually aroused and providing stimulus.
you can't fake that. No amount of 'game' produces that. Only your genetic lottery.
making a woman come? who cares.
>>28641616
Well I'm not a Chad but I do just fine. If you make them cum they keep coming back. It's really as simple as that. If they don't come back you find someone else.
There are other ways to get to women you know anon. It doesn't have to be some phony rehearsed pua game shit. There are things other than looks that matter. They don't all have the same criteria for looks anyway.
>>28641699
nothing but looks matter, bro. Based St. Rogers was right, he died for your sins.
>>28641771
It sounds to me like you've never touched a girl anon. Like you've never let her take your hand and let her guide it to the right spot then followed it up by giving it attention with your teeth and your tongue. Like you've never reached down and felt her soaking wet panties after doing these things.
Even this skill I'm using right now matters. Do you know how much women love descriptive role play? Phone sex? Sexting? They've read trashy romance novels for years. Why do you think that is anon?
>>28641845
only betas eat pussy. Chad doesn't care about women, why would he care about women's pleasure?
>>28641949
I didn't even talk about eating pussy. Women enjoy it when you do it but I find it's the hardest way to make them cum.
If Chad doesn't care about women's pleasure he's going to get cucked. Vibrators might be more efficient than cocks but they can't kiss a girl's neck. They can't look deep into their eyes before they pull them in close. You can't act like Stan on American Dad and expect to have a happy sex life.
>>28638940
oooooooh burned...
>>28639249
jesus christ came down as a living man
if he could die a virgin i bet you can
bu dum tss
>>28642013
lel.
the reason chad wins is because women have already created his interaction based on all those soft-eros works you mentioned earlier.
chad doens't need to do anything. A mediocre dicking from him is so far above anything a beta could conjure in her mind that it literally does not matter if the beta has a six inch tongue or a 9 inch dick.
>>28642142
If a tall athletic basketball player can get cucked by a fat rapper why can't what I'm saying be true? If you don't fuck your woman right she's gonna stray. That puts Chad into the beta provider role.
>>28636421
Because they're stupid and delusional. I come here because sometimes there are people who aren't stupid and delusional who share feels and shit but this place is becoming completely overrun.
>>28642142
That's simply not true... His "chadness" will be questioned if he can't fuck her hard. Women are much more sexual than people think.
>>28638933
I envy your perspicacity.
>>28636421
Because we're all secretly actually autistic as in high functioning asperger's and have spent countless hours carefully dissecting the human mind and are sharing the fruits of our research with the rest of the world through this board.
>>28636421
Man, I would love to go in the bathroom after her.
>>28642313
Lol Riiigghhhtttt
>>28642335
Sorry you weren't invited :(
>>28636421
I don't know that anyone here thinks they are an expert. I certainly don't.
However I do make observations about society, including women, and I listen to the observations of others. Their observations often match mine and hold up logically to me based on what I know about biology and human nature.
I think that robots are as prone to bias causing them to err as anybody else, however their status as an "outsider" also gives them the ability to analyze society in a way that is unique to them. I think there is a lot of truth in what robots say about women and society.
>>28642363
The audacity! Who should i scapegoat? Women? The jews? Marilyn Manson?
All my opinions about women are based on science
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19085605
>>28642425
Probably Obama.
>>28642475
>N = 355
Nice sample size you got there reddit. You have to go back, you might lose the gender war if you don't go post pseudo-intellectual claptrap on /r/theredpill right now.
