Is anyone else here suspicious of their sexuality? I'm sure there are many here that are, so can we have a serious discussion about homosexuality?
Could you believe that all humans, even those who've found themselves attracted to the opposite sex for all their lives, have the underlying capacity for homosexuality and its tendencies? I personally think so, and one reason I believe this is the fact that we were all biologically the same sex at some point in our existence (which is why males retain their nipples for instance).
I find the ideal male body to be far more aesthetically pleasing compared to the ideal female body. It takes much time, self-control, ambition, and proper genetics to attain such a beautiful form, whereas the same can not be said for the ideal female body, which simply requires proper genetics and not being a gorging pig. I find the penis to be a more conceptually attractive organ than the vagina in the sense that during sex, the libido protrudes and asserts itself into/over another with radiance and vigor, rather than be simply, lazily, and repugnantly stretched, seized, ravaged and entered like the vagina (master key, shitty lock analogy applies here). Sure, there's boipucci, but bottoms aside I believe in versatility.
Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle were enlightened, realising the inferiority of the female body and character. Shakespeare, if he did exist, was supposedly at least bisexual as well. Homosexual, intuitive, but certainly not faggots. Could it be that homosexuality devoid of flamboyance is morally superior to heterosexuality, or do you believe that sanity is statistical?
Fuck off faggot
Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
>>28539966
I'm not really gay, but I found that I always felt very threatened by blonde haired blue eyes cute boys. Because I thought they were prettier than me and would have sex with my one-itis before she would even consider me. Especially my best friend, who was a prime specimen of this. Then he was like: I'm gay and in love with you! And I was like "Wow, unexpected man! Totally unexpected!" But at the same time a huge relief crept over me. And as I relaxed I just looked at him and I felt sorry for him, because I had kind of treated him badly when i had paranoid jealous thoughts. And I think that was why I just went along with what he wanted.
i think back in the mid 2000's most of us were teenagers and homosexuality had become very fashionable along with the LGBT community, which lead to a lot of high school robots probably feigning gayness because it made them feel more attractive.
I've had gay and straight encounters, I can safely say I live comfortable identifying as straight. Being gay comes with a sort of emasculation you can never get rid of, and it's not who I am.
Ironically enough, there's too much pressure for men to be gay these days. A lot of dudes go prison gay after long enough without being with a girl (which is morally more upstanding than seducing 18 year old girls but that's another story), but deep down a lot of these complacent guys know they want to be with women instead.
I absolutely don't think that's bigoted to say at all. It's okay to be hetero. I bet you probably got off to some gay porn and you're wondering if you're gay, even with how uncomfortable it must make you feel? Fuck that, you're fine. There's no need to go pursue men instead. You're fine just as you are, it's normal, or women wouldn't have same sex encounters so often, even at times just to show off at how much more social freedom they have than the opposite sex.
>>28539966
>I find the ideal male body to be far more aesthetically pleasing compared to the ideal female body.
>I find the penis to be a more conceptually attractive organ than the vagina
These are gay thoughts OP I don't think straight men would agree with you on this.
As a Bi-fag leaning towards the gay side of things I can tell you my perspective.
A sex organ is a sex organ, penis or vagina, both are sensitive and receptive to touch. We know this. However we have a biological preference for the opposite sex due to reproduction. This preference can be pushed aside however, and is not very important.
What is important is recognizing what you are attracted to. Are you attracted to strong muscular men? Do you want to feel his muscles and big strong hands?
Or do you want a softer, gentle partner? A short girl with big breasts and a big squishy butt that you can play with?
Or something more in between the two is more realistic. And that's the point I'm trying to make. People of both genders can fall somewhere in between these two extremes and when you look past the stigma that comes with faggotry, you find that you are just lusting after certain traits in a person. Rather than vagina or penis specifically.
>Could it be that homosexuality devoid of flamboyance is morally superior to heterosexuality
No
>>28539966
>I find the ideal male body to be far more aesthetically pleasing compared to the ideal female body.
Yes.
>>28540117
do you/would you tell your future female partners about your gay phase?
>>28540117
>I bet you probably got off to some gay porn and you're wondering if you're gay, even with how uncomfortable it must make you feel?
It's not that, I'd have no issue if I were actually homosexual. I'm personally attracted to femininity, but became curious about homosexuality after discovering that these prominent philosophers were homosexuals or bisexual. I do not believe were simply because they were attracted to men. I believe there was reason, perhaps even virtue behind their tendencies, so I'm now speculating.
>>28539966
Well, I think there is a difference between gay and being simply a yaoisexual.
I mean, if you want boipussy, that is pretty specific. It is not just man-ass. It takes a certain attitude, someone supportive and safe. Who also is probably shaved on their entire body. Looks far younger than they are. Have feminine features like long elobarate hairstyles that looks cutsie. Actually, just look up Saika from Love Stage, that is pretty much the standard definition of what people on r9k wants. Because, they don't want to deal with female bullshit, and when they figure transexuals are freaking insane dickmurderers, you're only left with guys. So you want to make it least worst and get a cute guy.
It is basicly ancient greece all over again.
>>28539966
If you are attracted to traps you are 100% bisexual, no question. I don't even need to read all of that to know where this is going.
>>28540417
Being gay is the ultimate redpill
>>28540313
>Could it be that homosexuality devoid of flamboyance is morally superior to heterosexuality
>No
You do not think it is turpitude to fuck someone you cannot accumulate even a platonic relationship with due to lack of respect? You'd practically be using their bodies doing so.
>>28540509
>You do not think it is turpitude to fuck someone you cannot accumulate even a platonic relationship with due to lack of respect?
If you are implying that all guys aren't friends with their gfs then you are mistaken. Most people in relationships look forward to seeing each other and spending time with each other, for more reasons than sexy time.
All western men turning bisexual is the quickest way to gain support to either, move the muslims back to the middle east, the place we drop our bombs. Or, a lot faster solution, do an ethnical cleansing of people who have shitty genes, aka niggers and sandniggers.
Niggers aren't cute, sandniggers aren't cute. They can't have blonde babies. They are messing up our nice blondes! They have no cute genes, they can't like, make people boys who make me question my sexuality, like japs and thais can. Imagina if every man was some goze bearded fuck mix of nigger and sandnigger, oh the horror! Throw em back to the middle east. Save the boipussy!
WE MUST SAVE THE BOIPUSSY!
>>28540598
>gays supporting eugenics
Now I have seen everything. You faggots would be on the top 3 list of every country on Earth, why would you support this?
>>28540581
>If you are implying that all guys aren't friends with their gfs then you are mistaken.
Not that. If for a moment one ignores their primal impulses to objectively scrutinize the female body and character, and inferiority is discovered resulting in a loss of respect, would it not be depraved to use them for the sex they offer?
>>28540598
But if western men end up gay, our bloodlines will die off.
Or are you simply implying we're being taught to find niggers and sandniggers repulsive? They don't need to do much to convince us of that senpai.
I'm a kissless virgin who wants a qt3.14 but I have stuck large objects up my butt
>>28540681
Well yes, but that's an incredibly arrogant way of looking at it. I don't think the female body should be considered "inferior". Just as ying to man's yang.
>>28540755
The female body is objectively inferior in function, and also perhaps not objectively, but primal urges ignored, then arguably in looks due to increased congruence. The male body's ideal form is a product of greater virtue than a female's as well.
i wish there was a tl;dr but this has dubs so must read
this is a retarded attempt at being profound
>>28541045
>this is a retarded attempt at being profound
feel free to refute, I'm here to improve my awareness on this after all
>>28539966
>Is anyone else here suspicious of their sexuality?
I have suspicions but i'm not entirely homosexual or bi-sexual because i wouldnt want to have romantic relationship with men or traps. Dicks and vaginas are aesthetically is pleasant to look at tho.
>>28541028
>due to increased congruence
decreased* my bad
The David always made me happy. Growing up, I lived in a very Italian area, so classical sculptures were common. Seeing the tiny dicks on them all made me feel fine about my average dick size. Really helped my confidence.
Also about homosexuality being so prevalent now (comparatively) I think is due to a whole lot of reasons, but it can be summed up by this being the "uncaring" generation where gender and sexuality are much less rigid.
Women are beautiful, but men are often antagonized by them, and have bad experiences, which puts them off from women. That's the same as the lesbian woman who was raped or had some similar bad experience.
Not gay myself, but I lived around gay people, had a few gay friends, and had a questioning period. I like to think I understand their psychology particularly well, and the psychology of those who are doubtful.
>>28540695
Gay doesn't mean "not wanting to conceive to children". Fucking females is possible, if boring.
>>28539966
You're gay bro, you needn't write dissertations around it
>>28539966
I totally agree with you, OP. I started thinking the same thoughts some time ago. Men are really superior if you look at it objectively. I have never looked back since then. If I really want I can find a female, but I don't need them anymore.
>>28540695
Fucking glorious wonderful boipussy doesn't make you less likely to impregnate some Stacy. If anything it probably makes you more likely, because you're relaxed from being well off, Stacy smells that and seeks your happiness, because that is what women are, beings that seeks out mens happiness and eats it up with their vaginas. If your happiness levels are sky high she will sit on your dick to drain you properly. Sex is all about her, making her happy, making her satisfied. It is her sucking your happiness out from your dick.
>>28539966
Why would homosexuality be morally superior, of all things? Also the fact that you find males more pleasing in every sense makes you gay. There is nothing to think too deeply about. See you on /lgbt/
>>28541751
Because if two guys try to do something, they usually get it right.
>>28541751
it should be morally superior to any objective robot
>>28540681
>tfw I like men but I want a wife and kids
What do I do?
>>28541718
>Truth, the post
though a lot of gays would say that this is bisexuality not homosexuality. In fact, the gays on /lgbt/ for example would call you a bislut breeder and get assblasted over it. I think they're bitter that they aren't women or can't get with women though desu.
I personally am Bi though so I relate to this 100%
>>28541907
why not just call it yaoisexuality, it would make them rage hard. Then we could have our own generals on /lgbt/ and claim victim status on tumblr. Not to mention we could stirr up bullshit with like "This is my identity! Not a comic-book for fujoshits! Stop opressing me!"
I've always wanted to experiment with guys to see if I'm gay, but I don't want to give up my first kiss/virginity to a guy because I feel like I would regret it if I'm actually straight. Does anybody know this feel?
>>28541840
I tend to disregard the opinions of those on this who believe they are superior to anyone, and much less of those who believe they can write off an entire population of people as inferior.
>>28541907
like this man!
>>28542066
>this who believe they are superior to anyone
I'm referring to the ideal male body as objectively superior to the ideal female body, not my body in particular.
>>28542128
It's objectively superior if you base it solely on merit, I suppose.
>>28541962
>yaoisexuality, it would make them rage hard
KEK yeah it would, but naming an already existant sexuality (Bi, a 1-5 on the Kinsey scale) after weeb shit would never get taken seriously. If you like traps and girls you're a 1. If you only like femboys and girls you are a 2. If you like andro guys and girls you are a 3. If you like slightly masc guys and girls you are a 4. And so on.
This is all my opinion and there are definitely unique cases and inbetween states, but my point is that bisexuality is a good term for it already and doesn't need to be changed.
I do find it strange that we get the short end of the stick in the LGBT movement though, lots of hate calling us sluts and saying we're just gay or straight in denial. Are they jealous we can like both? Idrk.
>>28542321
They're jealous, bitter that we are "more accepted" when in reality heterosexuals dislike us just as much, and distrustful because of bisexuals who are prone to cheating and "bisexuals" who are actually not bi.
>>28539966
I have cravings to suck a dick all the time, however I'm not attracted to men in any way, the thought of engaging in anything other than oral sex with a man disgusts me. Not sure why.
I definitely don't think that just because you find the male form attractive would mean that you are gay. I can't remember the name of it now but it's an idea that noone is fully straight nor gay rather you are more one than the other, for example 80% straight and 20% gay.
>>28542321
You're wrong man!
Because the Kinsey scale only takes into account one person, while yaoi is more of a pair-wise thing. Also, look at that >>28542117
They would totally eat that shit. They would totally eat it if we said that all guys had a phase between 16-26 when all the cute boys and handsome boys have sex, but it is like shameful in coulture because yaoisexuals are the most oppressed class. Thus, young white and asian men get a victimhood pass, totally destroying all the work of feminazies, if we're lucky, even before they notice. Then when they notice the real lulzworthy trolling begins. We could drink SJW tears of unfathomable bitterness and feel so good.
>>28540417
I get what you're saying but think of the abundance of philosophers who showed no signs of homosexuality. You're listing a few but there are dozens more we could name who were straight. I do not think that homosexuality is directly linked with creativity or anything like that, I also do not think sexual preference is linked with being less intellectually capable than your straight contemporary's. However I am of the opinion that sexuality is a result of the environment that someone grew up in rather than something one was born with.
>>28542809
What about openess to experience and sexual experimentation. Wich allows you the abundance of experience required to create fantasy through bricolage, or simply said: creativity.
>>28539966
I am insecure of how society views the disorder in my sexuality and I will never reveal it. I do agree that any man has that "homosexuality" fetish deep inside of him. Just like any other fetish. Sexuality in humans is weird, but still natural as all can experience it from the environment.
