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>people who actually believe they should be allowed to control what other people do to themselves
what makes you think you have the place or right to fuck with someone elses life? a person can do whatever they want to themselves, and to another person who consents to it. this is the biggest problem with society, the fact that people think they should control what other people do with their own life, body etc. no one should
1. force other people to respect their views
2. prevent other people from doing something with/to their own body, and with/to another person who consents.
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>>28378809
>t. child molester
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>>28378809
you're either a kiddie diddly fondler, or a tranny

either way, hang youself my famalam
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>>28378860
if the child doesn't consent then they are not to be acted on
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Yeah, how dare schools force you to learn how to read and write! Nothing ever came good of that.
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>>28378916
>>28378860
so you think you should be allowed to tell other people what to do with themselves? fuck off.
i'm not a tranny, or a pedo, just a heterosexual
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>>28378809
Might makes right

If you have the might, do what you feel is right. Until then, be good or be good at it.
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>>28378939
it's not about whether if good comes of it or not
people can do what they want to themselves
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>>28378982
Right. But the whole thing that makes us human is our capacity to create harmony and structure, and to think it's either total order or total freedom is retarded. There is good to come of order just as there is good to come from freedom.
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>>28378809
libertarian pedophile spotted.
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>>28379015
if someone chooses to follow order, or if a group willingly choose to, of course they can. but if someone does not wish to be a part of this, it no one's place to make him do it. it doesn't matter "what makes us human". you don't get to decide what someone else does to themselves.
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>>28379031
>he believes in personal freedom
>he must be a pedophile!
what kind of mental gymnastics did you do to assume free thinking = pedophile
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>>28378809
>muh autonomy.

I think I should do, get, and strive for whatever I like even that means trampling your rights, and screwing you over to get the things I want or have things the way I like them. Can't handle that? Then you and Kant can fuck right off.
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>>28379044
The only thing that is truly keeping you from being "free" is your reliance on the society that is "oppressing" you. You're free to go live in the wild at any time.
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>>28379106
my personal freedom is mine alone, if you try to take that away i'll shoot you. when you trample on another persons personal freedom, you lose the right to your own
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>>28379076
I've browsed enough libterarian and ancrap forums to know there's a huge overlap between the former groups and pedophiles. You're a sicko.
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>>28379121
yeah, except that the police would come after me and throw me in a cell for being "mentally deranged". and yes, you're right, but there are people who will still believe that they should tell another person what to do with themselves
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>>28379129
I get that your parents don't want to pay for your sex change, but don't take it out on us you mentally ill faggot.
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>>28379137
you have absolutely no basis for that besides what other people who are not me said. i'm not even mad. it's funny when people use words to try to make me feel bad, insults don't bother me.
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>>28379044
Yeah, I do actually. Ever heard of negative influence?

Go smoke your crack in the ocean far away from society mang.
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>>28379168
>>28379137
>all this projection
for fucks sake, i just want to be left alone by faggots like you who think it's okay to make me do things/do things to me "for my own good". i decide what's for my own good.
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>>28379154
Nah, police will only come after you if you have committed a crime or if someone calls looking for you. At least where I live there's enough open land to not get caught, so I guess it depends where you live.

The reason people tell people what to do with themselves is mammalian behavior. It's natural and is to be expected. The ironic thing is telling people they shouldn't tell people what to do with themselves is telling people what to do with themselves. It's an insecurity thing. People are insecure with themselves, so they try to tell you what to do, and you come and complain on 4chan because you yourself are insecure.

Break the chain and stop giving a shit.
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>>28379191
k tard. Don't you have some kiddo porn to be fapping to? After you DEMOLISH some statist on the internet with *tip* LAWGICK and REASON, of course.
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>>28379216
>angsty teen detected

Your parents don't want you eating candy because that's a good way to catch diabities.

Now, get off this website before you get b& and do your homework.
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>>28379201
like i said, you try to take away my personal freedom, you lose the right to yours. i'll shoot your ugly skull to pieces.
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>>28378963
Ok friend I'm going to kill you and you have no right to tell me to stop or tell anyone else I should stop or seek help in any way ;^)
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>>28379247
>>28379240
>all this projection
how does it feel to be brainwashed by the propaganda of those who want to control you? if you really need proof, i'll show you my face, with timestamp, and ID
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>>28379262
Huh. Did you create that gun yourself?
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>>28379280
but see, that's something you are doing
1. to someone else
2. without their consent
now, if i asked you to kill me, or tried to make you do/not do something to yourself, then you would be justified to shoot me.
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>>28379293
Link us to the database that your criminal record is stored on instead.
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>>28379298
no, one of my cousins did
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>>28379314
You can't mess with me killing you since it's against your morals to mess with what I want to do if you defend yourself in any way you're just a hypocrite
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>>28378809
origami comet
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>>28379323
>more projection
what do you intend to prove with this?
i didn't think just saying people should be allowed personal freedom would get such a rise out of people. it's just a basic right.
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>>28379353
how fucking retarded are you?
everyone should be allowed to
1. do whatever they want TO THEMSELVES
2. and to other people WITH CONSENT
attacking another person WITHOUT CONSENT is an action not being inflicted upon yourself, so it is NOT VALID.
i hate to write in caps, but i don't think you'll see it otherwise
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>>28379369
this is correct
also, other people do NOT have a right to your labour and property
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>>28379420
If I leave you alone you'll end up doing things that violate that because I know you're a hypocrite so I'm going to kill you before that can happen

There are thousands of people who agree with me and if you impede any of us in any way you'll be exposed as a hypocrite since we're just upholding your system of morals and making sure people can do what they want without interference
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>2016
>thinking a separate self exists
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>>28379478
You're free to smoke meth, and we're free to arrest your ass when you rob a bank 3 months later. Fair deal holmes?
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>>28379489
We're all just dissociative processes of an all encompassing cosmic mind.
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>>28378809
No man is an island.
Every action you make affects society.
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You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, I tip my hat to you.
*tips*
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>>28379369

>property
>an institution that only exists because a state with a monopoly on violence grants it
>property "comes out of your body" despite having only a tenuous and often indirect relationship to labour
>ownership of property does not "affect other people"

Lol.

But, anyway, you can claim any of these are as valid as the other, because they are based on nothing but preference. You don't have a right to anything; rights are social constructs and absolutely nothing else. They're valuable fictions to people that prefer a certain way of life. You can have as much a right to "free" education as to property; there is no cosmic law that says otherwise.

I'm so ashamed of you dumb-dumbs. You can prefer whatever you like, but when you start stating one form of society or political economy is "valid" or "invalid", you need to step back and stop typing for a while. The idea that people are islands unto themselves that can or do operate without affecting everyone else, or exist without having been affected by everyone else, in some way,is also demonstrably false.
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>>28379627
If we take an existential stance and say people live so they can do something they want, Is an island not preferable? Should we attempt to reach islands despite limited resources? What the fuck am I trying to say? If you live to do what you want, is an area where you can do that not preferable, and should you not strive for it? Then allow others to do the same with their islands and their travel between?
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>>28379129
Fair enough.
I accept your challenge, but I think I'll come out ahead.
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>>28379129
>you lose the right to your own

No, not necessarily, but that sounds like great rhetoric.
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>>28379478
>I know you're a hypocrite
that's just you maling shit up
it has no basis in reality whatsoever
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>>28379216
It's not that I think it's "okay"
It's that I want to, and I can.
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>>28379627
too bad, as long as i'm not doing it to another person without their consent, it's none of your business
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>>28379676
>because they are based on nothing but preference.
t. STEMlord who knows nothing about metaethics
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>>28379806
and you'll be killed for it
anyone who tramples on my personal freedom loses the right to his own
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Your belief is very common and the biggest problem with society. 99% people believe exactly as you do, and then just rationalize that belief to match whatever they want to do. Thats all your "Philosophy" is, a rationalization.

Your criteria for what effects others and what dosent expands and contracts to reflect what you want to do and what you want others to do.

The criteria for judging whether your actions are appropriate is "mindful heeding", meaning you consider what effect your actions will have on the greater whole. All of your actions effect the whole. You cant name an action which doesnt effect the greater whole because everything is interconnected. If someone claims there actions dont effect others what they are really saying is their actions obviously effect others but they want a pretext to do it anyway.

Your thinking is simplistic, black-and-white, and narrow minded. People can be ignorant, stupid and self destructive and your "philosophy" cant account for that, sorry.

Letting others do what they please with themselves is just as guaranteed to produce bad social results as letting millions of stupid and uneducated people vote.

I can give concrete examples if you like.
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>>28379695
I never thought of it that way before.
I'm honestly going to have to take some time to reflect on that.
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>>28379942
what is a "right"? Is your whole "Phil0$ophy" really based on a non-existent abstraction? Pathetic.
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>>28379786
That doesn't matter, if you're allowed to live you'll ruin everything so you have to die, it's the only way that we can ensure a society where nobody can tell anybody else what to do
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1. you may do anything to yourself that want
2. you may do anything to another person, regardless of age, gender, or race, with their consent
3. if you take something from another human that you did not acquire with their consent, you lose the right to your personal freedom
4. if you do something to another human being, regardless of age, gender, or race, without their consent, you lose the right to your personal freedom
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>>28379871

>metaethics does not include moral relativism
>metaethics is not just a vague group of related works based largely on inductive logical systems that may or may not have any relation to reality
>if I point to a branch of philosophy relevant to the discussion I don't need to back up my claim at all

It's funny that you think I'm a STEMfag, though.

Have a cute anime girl.
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>>28379942
>and you'll be killed for it
You probably shouldn't make claims unless you're confident you can back them up.

You sound like a bitch to me.
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>>28380033
>>28380041
you just assume i am a hypocrite to justify yourself in your mind. if someone acquires something, that requires the consent of another person, and they are given consent, it is their own property. their own body is also their property. this is all there is to it.
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>>28379996
This anon gets it.

OP is clearly defensive as fuck which ironically is often the drive that compels people to do exactly what OP says they shouldn't do.
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>>28378916
>goes immediately into "lol pedo" mode

Trying too hard to cover your tracks pedos.
A normal person would know that he is clearly talking about women's rights. Projecting faggots.
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>>28380033
>what is a "right"?

In his mind, probably anything that the government or kind strangers will bestow upon him if he whinges and makes a sad puppy face.
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>>28380096
i'm not here to discuss my own psychology, you can and will believe whatever you want about me. i am not a weak willed person, so if you do attempt to trample on my personal freedom, or the personal freedom of another person, i WILL kill you. and remember, personal freedom DOES NOT include anything that is not you.
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>>28380079
Moral relativism is for teenagers going through a phase, people who don't know anything about metaethics, and a small minority of philsophers who haven't learned that there aren't any good arguments for it.
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>>28379816
Everything you do affects society. I am part of society. It is my business.
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>>28380118
no, i just feel the need to protect personal freedom. you can conjecture whatever fantasies you want about me, but they remain purely fantasy.
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>>28380164
Have you considered that it might be unhealthy that you would consider murder over something so trivial? Most of the time you can easily just walk away from people, you know. Stop overacting. This isn't a movie.
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>>28380188
if i do something to YOU, or YOUR PROPERTY WHICH YOU ACQUIRED WITH THE CONSENT OF THE RIGHTFUL PREVIOUS OWNER, then it is your business. If not, as much as it may not do you any good, it is not doing you any harm either and is my business alone.
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>>28380166
>implying the teen phase was not humanistic moral absolutism

I could say it depends on the person, but you probably couldn't wrap your mind around that concept.
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>>28380197
Are you upset that I'm oppressing you with rational thought? Stop being so insecure. Not everyone is out to take away your "freedoms".
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>>28379420
the problem is the same logic you use to punish or prevent people from doing whatever they want to others and without consent is exactly the same logic you are trying to antagonize.

you're not even drawing any lines you dumb shit, you're just broadly addressing drug addicts and pedophiles who are scum and need no defense. if they broke traditional rules why wouldn't they break yours? the fact of the matter is that you live in a society of people, and anything you do while you're alive could influence the world around you. it's up to society as a group to decide what is appropriate or not, and not the fucking outcasts who fantasize about their own perfect system. what works for you may completely fucking shit on someone else's perspective, and what makes you a greater authority in your mind? because any successful culture definitely maintained restraints on what people were allowed to do. the journey to lifting all of those restraints has given people "freedom" but to no ones surprise it has done absolutely nothing for happiness or quality of life in general. people are confused as FUCK about everything, and the handful of fags and retards and addicts that can be more open about their dysfunctions who gain benefit are nothing compared to the amount of miscommunication and hesitation there is in making any fucking decision at the community level.
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>>28380218
>Most of the time you can easily just walk away from people, you know
of course, but if he tries to physically prevent me from leaving, or continues to trample on my personal freedom, it is not so trivial.
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>>28380113
Since you're too stupid to fucking get this I'll spell it out for you

Your ideas are childish and naive, letting anyone do what they want as long as it doesn't "interfere" with other people is the narrow useless view of the world every retarded 12 year old has

There are plenty of people who don't fit into that kind of system and will do everything in their power to exploit it or tear it down, so at minimum now you've made a class of people you have to make an exception for and go out ans aggressively control just to keep your "perfect" society

Then there are people who simply won't get along and will see fit to deny other people resources, which will hamper any kind of advanced development as people spend more and more time focused on acquiring resources that they can't trade for

The only way your retarded ideas work is if you go fucking live out in the middle of nowhere in the woods, do everyone a favor and do that instead of posting your retarded drivel here
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>>28380231
That's not how it works.
If you're participating in degeneracy, you're harming society.
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>>28380218
It's only unhealthy because he'd get arrested, if he's not the sort of person to be concerned with those things it isn't an issue.
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>>28380263
>you're just broadly addressing drug addicts and pedophiles who are scum and need no defense
i'm not the one who brought up pedophiles. and i have drawn very clear lines, see
>>28380055
>>28379420
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>>28380113
confirmed for feminist.

Female decision to be a whore ruins my culture and environment and I do not give you my consent to do that.
:^)
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>>28380266
But I doubt anyone is doing that. You aren't like Mel Gibson in Braveheart.

Is anyone honestly preventing you from doing something, and what? Have you considered doing something about that beyond resorting to violence. Use your words.
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>>28380290
too fucking bad then, it's not your business if i'm doing it to myself, and myself only. a society dependent upon forcing me to do things with my own self without my consent is a wrong society
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>>28380317
something an individual does to themselves, is not within the bounds of your consent. something individuals do to each other with mutual consent, is not within an outside parties consent.
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>>28380164
OK tough boy, I don't care how you define freedom, personal or otherwise.

Why are you here? In this thread, and in general?
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>>28380166

Enlighten me to what the moral truth is, then, and please explain why it is objectively true and not just someone's preference.
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>>28380328
Too fucking bad for you too then because you can't stop it.
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>>28380364
all relativistic arguments are useless because there is no bottom to them and they just chase their own tail

people who want to actually get things done instead of jerk themselves off learn to avoid them pretty fast
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>>28380376
then, you lose the right to your own personal freedom, and i am morally free to stop you from taking mine or anyone elses personal freedom
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>>28378982
>it's not about whether if good comes of it or not

that's a great point
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>>28380411
And that's the natural order of things.
Your only rights are the ones you can defend yourself.
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>>28380231
Okay lets take the gloves off shall we? we need to talk in literal terms to show you how stupid you are. What exactly do you want to do with "your" body and "property" (ignoring for a moment all questions the assumed terms in quotes raise) that you claim does not effect others and is only your business?

BTW, if what you're doing REALLY dosent effect others then people REALLY wouldnt give a shit. Conflict exists, it's an actual thing.
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>le postmodern liberal ethicism
>>28379076
hahahaha he thinks 'le freedom' is free thinking
>>28379293
You're brainwashed by propaganda you stupid fedoralord.
>>28379420
>everyone should be allowed to
why? muh spooks?
>>28379816
why though?
>>28380079
>reality
reality is a spook anon
>>28380364
The Lord
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>>28380458
No one knows what the natural order of things is. If that were true, all Scientists would be out of the job.

Again, I don't understand why you think this whole civilization thing that has been going on for a couple thousand years means nothing. Most species are programmed to live and work together.
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the right to complete freedom of ones own body and mind, and solely their own body, mind, and property which they gained with the consent of the previous owner, is self evident. i have nothing more to say on this because i know people will only resort to insults, projection, and pure fantasy to convince themselves that i am a hypocrite.
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>>28380356
So if I make billions of dollars as a banker -- while doing nothing for society -- is it okay for me to buy every female in Africa, with their consent, and sterilize them to stop the spread of niggers?
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>>28380479
I'd like to add that if OP wasn't insecure about what he wants to do, there'd be no problem as well.
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>>28380525
>the right
DUDE I GOT RIGHTS BECUZ I SED SO HAHA IM SO EPIC AND SMART
>self-evident
HAHA IM SO LOGICAL AND SMART BUT I MAKE MASSIVE PRESUMPTIONS AND JUST EXPECT YOU TO ACCEPT IT OR CALL YOU STUPID HAHA IM NOT A HYPOCRITE AT ALL XDDDD

I wish this ideology died in the 1700s.
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>>28380525
Isn't the fact that people disagree with you proof enough that it isn't self evident?
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>>28380479
>BTW, if what you're doing REALLY dosent effect others then people REALLY wouldnt give a shit
say i jack off to porn
and the man and woman consented to the filming
this affects no one other than myself and the pornstars however, many christians believe that this should be illegal because it makes them uncomfortable
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>>28380589
FUCKING CHRISDENS XDDDDDD THEY ARENT LOGICAL AND SMART LIKE ME XDDDDD
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>>28380566
ideologies which make superficial sense before you examine them never seem to go away do they?
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>>28380533
sure, if they consent
not my problem
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>>28378809
Couldn't agree more, my brother.
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>>28380382

I asked you to explicitly state why some moral truth is objectively true and not just a form of preference, but you keep dancing around the question and propping up alternative statements.
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>>28380712
I already have: >>28380492

Please learn to read you illiterate neo-right puppet.
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>>28380304
those aren't lines and we both know exactly who you're talking about, asshole. there are almost no other situations where this is a public debate. if you are in an environment where you can't do what you want, you can just leave. but touching kids and fucking your shit up with drugs/alcohol are not acceptable.
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>>28380712
that's the first time I've replied to you
asking someone to assert a positive claim also has no bearing on the validity of another negative claim, you're just trying to redirect and then accuse him of doing the same thing to obscure it
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>>28380525

>self-evident
>"I have no actual argument but I think it should be and I want it to be"

You just need to stop. Don't worry; there are plenty of other dumbasses that enjoy your simplistic idea of reality.
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>>28380589
Yes, I was waiting for someone to give that exact example. Jacking off to porn effects others.

1. it creates a market for human trafficking
2. it creates a market for degeneracy which chews up and spits out women, leaving them with no ability to pair bond or hold a relationship together, let alone a family or marriage. Younger women get into porn and become obsolete very quickly, but are dependent on zero skill, zero effort labor.
3. it always tends in the direction of the extreme and shocking, its value as entertainment is predicated on being inappropriate for normal society.
4. effects the male emotional state, lowers motivation to interact with real women, and therefore contributes to the greater alienation which men and women are feeling which is reflected in statistics and high percentages of people who want to get married or have kids but cannot.
5. it is contrary to many peoples values, therefore contributing to the breakdown of homogeneity in values, leading to more alienation, distrust, difficulty finding partners and communities which align with personal beliefs.
6. is an addictive superstimulus our brains are not hardwired to cope with

This is easy. I could go on for hours. How could you possibly believe porn has no social consequences beyond the two people who are fucking? did you ever think if my son becomes a porn addict it could affect me? get a clue.

Millions of men use that exact same rationalization but the reality is everything you do effects others. Sorry, you lose.
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>>28380762

>neo-right puppet
>implying I'm not a dirty commie that believes property is theft
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>>28380519
And living and working together means not letting members of society fall apart and degenerate.
I want you to be the best part of our society you possibly can be and if that means forcing you to exercise and turn off the porn, I'll vote to have it done.
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>>28380611
Wow youre really dense huh? I thought I was being too blunt but I guess if you had any appreciation of subtlety you wouldnt be espousing this dangerous philosophy.

let me put it to you this way: if I literally bought and paid for the bodies of everyone you know and love and euthanized them with their consent -- would that effect you?
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>>28380712
Using post-modernism to argue against liberalism is not going to be fruitful, desu.

"And if you swear that there's no truth and who cares
How come you say it like you're right?"
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>>28380825
You're both.

You basically just have autism.
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>>28380867
this, better yet just pay to transplant his entire city and all its resource other than him then build an impassable wall around it

since he doesn't own anything involved he isn't directly affected and has no say in the matter
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>>28380803
if someone chooses to make porn, that's their decision, no matter how bad it turns out for them
if someone chooses to jack off, they can do so, no matter how bad it is for them
this is not about whether things are good or bad
if i choose to make porn, and upload it to the internet, i didn't force another person to do something
if someone chooses to jack off, he didn't force anyone else to do something
sure, some people may have bad affects from it, but those affects are self inflicted
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>>28380916
holy FUCK you're stupid
did you even read that post at all
you completely failed to even pretend to address any of the claims
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>>28380867
i guess, but if they consent it's their decision to make not mine
>>28380901
ok
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>>28380121
Huh, that's funny. I was pretty sure this post was about suicide.
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>>28380936
it doesn't matter if the affects on the people who choose to participate are bad or not. all that matters is whether they were given the freedom to choose or not choose.
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>preaching horrorshow philosophy
>posting on this 4chan rather than gathering some droogs and giving some stacies the in-and-out

Why, my brothers?
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>>28378809
Mankind is sick. We are the Illuminati. We seek to improve Mankind.
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>>28380956
yeah you didn't even read his post at all
read the fucking post before you reply

the entire fucking point is that you're deluded to think it ends with personal choice
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All of you, "effect" and "affect" are different words and mean different fucking things.

>>28380956

How can you not understand that freedom is a loaded idea, as is choice and consent? I suspect you know you're being retarded and are just embarrassed.

Why not just take this opportunity to learn more and not make such dumb statements in the future?
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>>28380916
and there we have it. what you believe in is vague ideology over actual human welfare. this debate is over, you probably dont even believe what youre saying yourself any more. you need to log off the internet and rethink yourself.

were not projecting by the way. its obvious that you are self destructive and unsure of yourself ethically. You should take it as a sign that 95% of people vehemently disagree with you. Or just continue to feel unwarranted feelings of intelligence and wisdom.

"neurosis is obvious to everyone but the neurotic"
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>>28380983
do you want to go down the rabbit hole of questioning what consent is? if someone says "yes" that's consent, regardless of what may be affecting their ability to think. if they chose to do whatever it was that affected their minds or ability to function, then they had the freedom to do so. if someone else made them do whatever it was that affected their mind without their consent, then they have been forced into an inability to consent.
it's like this, if a woman chooses to drink alcohol, and has sex, she consented to the affects the alcohol would have on her mind.
if she was drugged without knowing, THEN she did not consent.
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>>28381072
why are you arguing completely unrelates points? I'll just assume it's because you know you fucked up, fuck off dude
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>>28381071
>what you believe in is vague ideology over actual human welfare
it isn't about welfare
people have the right to harm themselves, even if this makes another party unhappy
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>>28381071
I agree. Oh, sadly, how I agree. Not a single droog I can find on the streets these nights. All the boys these days have lost their bite.
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>>28381072
>if someone says "yes" that's consent, regardless of what may be affecting their ability to think.

People like you make the abuse and degradation of humanity so fucking easy for those in power, holy shit. This is some psyops shit, there's no way your belief in this shit is just by chance.
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>>28380166
Retarded adults like you are one good reason teenagers should have the right to vote.
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>>28381151
I love you.
Marry me?
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>>28378809
Dude. Just say you want to fuck kids. It's 4chan not facebook.
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>>28381085
it's an example that makes my point clear
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>>28381106
>people have rights becuz i sed so
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>>28381106
have you entertained the idea that you're wrong?
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>>28381189
That's nice junior. You're not allowed to post if you're under 18.
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>>28380864
I agree with you anon, and I can give you all the exercise you could want, but this porn addiction ain't going away.
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>>28378860
You are the child molester since you like to force people what to do
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>>28381189

>moral relativism is the reason people should have the right to vote
>moral relativism is the reason people should have the right
>moral relativism
>"right"
>"should"

Wew.
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>>28380864
>I want you to be the best part of our society you possibly can be and if that means forcing you to exercise and turn off the porn, I'll vote to have it done.
than i will destroy society
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>>28381317
Who are you quoting?
abundant originality
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>>28381199
The chance of marriage is quite slim,
but perhaps I will throw you to my boy Dim.
His name is descriptive and his looks affright,
but I'm sure you yourself are no pretty sight.
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>>28378809
This is an oversimplification of human relations


We're not born in a vacuum, we're born in families and communities which spend a huge amount of time and effort to make sure we survive to adulthood. Everyone starts out with an inherent deficit in the value they provide to the world so there is a corresponding 'demand' that requires you to make up for it. Forcing people to do things is just an extension of that relationship
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>>28381528
You doubt my looks that I understand,
but why don't you reach up and give me a hand?
Dim is grand sure I can tell,
but please love, accept me into your heart, lest I go to hell.
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>>28381653
You slooshy that, droogs? We got a horrorshow pretty polly begging us for the in-and-out.
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>>28381877
So you've finally made up your rassoodock, then? Perhaps we could also catch milk-plus to sharpen us up for a bit of the old ultra violence after the in-and-out? Oh bliss! Bliss and heaven!
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>>28378860

Well holy shit, that was quick... what are you hiding, anon?
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Humans have the innate ability to understand the actions of others by extrapolating from their own mindset and their own mental constitution which are very similar to that of other humans, and therefore they also possess the ability to judge whether what a person did in a specific context is reasonable by projecting themselves into the situation. This is called empathy, and it is the basis for building a society, and the reason for the existence of laws.

"Dude just do what you want" is not an argument, it's idiocy at best.
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>>28382155
Real horrorshow. Bog bless. If you're in Madison, perhaps some ultra violence indeed. Otherwise, I must return to Beethoven. Joy Joy Joy Joy.
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>>28380533
Sure, as long as they voluntarily accept it, it's fine.
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>>28380533

I'm afraid stopping the spread of niggers is a moral imperative. What you're doing immorally is giving those niggers money that could've been used to feed the families of soldiers willing to murder niggers instead.
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>>28382873
niggers aren't conscious and can't consent
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>>28382289
>Humans have the innate ability to understand the actions of others
Yes, but not the right to do what you think is best for them. For example, if someone wants to commit suicide I think that he's wrong, that probably there are beautiful things even in his life, but if he wants to commit suicide I let him do what he prefers.
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>>28382559
Farewell, love. It was glorious hearing the likes of someone such as yourself.
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