How do I approach girls without being "creepy"
You can't you're on r9k.
>>28172499
By JUST beeing yourself. We've went over this.
Be warm and friendly instead of cold and awkward
Although, that's what I've been trying but apparently I intimidate people through "intense" eye contact
I used to be an autist and couldn't look at people at all, so I improved and this is what fucking happens
My teacher literally said that she thinks I'm constantly judging her and thinking she's shit (which is true) but how do I not let her know I'm doing this?
>>28172499
Be attractive and don't have autism. That's it really.
>>28172499
My best tip to approach girls in the library at uni
>go sit in the spot next to girl
>take out your book and a marker
>make sure it's an empty/not working marker
>ask her if she has a spare marker
>demonstrate that your marker is empty by going over your book with it
If you're not too ugly, you might get a conversation going that way
>>28172557
I tried just beeing myself in a coffee shop today and I could tell she was creeped out from the start. I asked if I could sit with her and, barely looking up from her phone, she said "sure, I guess". I asked her what her name was and she said Amy, then I told her my name and she said she had to leave because she was going to meet a friend, she took her ice coffee and left.
I could tell other people were laughing at me as I sat there now alone trying to finish my coffee so I decided to go home. It was extremely humiliating, I just want a girl to not want to immediately run away. Even if we can just be friends, there doesn't need to be any romantic element, I just need to meet people, I'm really lonely.
>>28172499
It is not about how you act, you are either Chad or you aren't.
Don't listen to feminists, if it ever got to the point where they could label us sex offenders just for talking to them you would still be genocided even if you stayed in your room all day and never bothered anyone.
catcall, talk to them late at night, basically hit on every woman who isn't obese or over 30, colleagues, customers, every woman you come into extended contact with plus a few strangers who you come into contact with for an extended period of time
9/10 will be "triggered", they will gossip about you and, but as I said they already hated us just for existing because their chimpanzee brains are biologically programmed to treat beta males as social inferiors, since beta males were going to be treated like 2nd class citizens it makes no difference. Occasionally you will meet someone who doesn't treat you like garbage and it is worth offending 9 roasties in order to find her, even if she won't split the bill dating, if she just wants to be "friends", a friend ought to help a little with your quest to find a gf.
I'm not going to be a normy and pretend rejection won't hurt, however the catharsis of triggering roasties who decided you were a "creep" the moment they looked at you should counter this.
>>28172575
Yes I second this. The warm and friendly part is important. Like, not acting like you're dead inside. People online say "haha I want someone dead inside too so we can share feels <3" but then when you confront them with your shit it's not actually that cute imo. So basic psychology: you want to KISS them. Not literally, it stands for
>K
keep
>I
it
>S
short
>S
and simple
...also you want to keep it positive. Communication is a transfer of emotions and words are only a small fraction of what is exchanged. You want to make them feel good by giving off positive vibes. This is where mental talk comes into play.
>>28172657
>catcall, talk to them late at night, basically hit on every woman who isn't obese or over 30, colleagues, customers, every woman you come into extended contact with plus a few strangers who you come into contact with for an extended period of time
But I never see anybody doing this, why do I need to resort to these tactics when gfs seem to fall into everyone's hands so easily? I'm not some player ladies man who can hit on a cashier without second thought, that's just so fucking out of reach for me. I don't want to be mocked or laughed at or gossipped about like a freak for months and months with no success.
>>28172649
yeah, this is weird as fuck. unless you're 10/10 handsome male model and smooth as hell, approaching a girl in a random coffee shop is not going to work
>>28172788
Then what the fuck works? What other choice do I have?
>>28172499
DO IT IN SOCIALLY APPROPRIATE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU FEEL THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE OF MUTUAL ATTRACTION
>>28172649
>I asked if I could sit with her
>she said yes
What the fuck are you complaining about?
>>28172632
It's impolite to talk in a library.
>>28172811
She was definitely reluctant, I could tell by the fact that she wouldn't even look at me and left almost immediately after I sat down.
>>28172795
Accept that none of us are meant to be functional, happy, human beings, never to experience female companionship.
Ever.
>>28172767
you don't, and no one uses any tactic like that (ESPECIALLY catcalling) successfully. try online dating or meeting people through friends or at parties/bars/clubs/interests/hobbies
>>28172802
So, never? I've never once in my life felt like there was a sense of mutual attraction between myself and someone else from the get-go.
>>28172795
You don't try m8, I hope you find comfort in watching anime by yourself, plus we have VR coming.
>>28172795
The realization that not everyone is supposed to be happy, far from it, is always hard to witness.
>>28172855
then you need to work on being more attractive
i'm not even talking about ~sensing~ attraction, just like ohh i'm about a 6/10 she's around a 5-6/10 i think she would realistically date a guy that looked like me etc. just basic knowledge of that shit
ofc it's just a rule of thumb but it will put you out of the realm of being a creep in most situations if you follow it
>>28172904
But I'm like 5/10, I'm completely average and I've never felt like a girl has ever been legitimately interested in me before, what does it take to be attractive? I work out a bit, I don't go to the gym or anything but I run and do bodyweight shit every day. I'm not overweight, I'm 6 feet tall, I think my face is pretty much middle-of-the-road attractive, but women literally do not acknowledge my existence in the slightest.
>>28172499
Don't be ugly. Remember, it's only sexual harassment if you're ugly and the girl didn't like it.
>>28172967
lift weights, get muscular, get a six pack or some type of abs
it will also change how your face looks
Look like chad
tbo
>>28172967
I'm a 3-4/10 and had two 7+ actually ask me out.
I'm also short and fat (5'10" 195lbs). Don't know what to make of this, just know that luck happens.
>>28172575
tfw this happened to me
I cant find a balance
>>28172991
So what you're saying is it's impossible for me to actually get a gf by just being average? Why can't I get an average gf if I'm also average? I'd even settle for like a 3/10 if she was into me, but they aren't, they never are.
>>28172499
be attractive
basically this is how it works
approach female, if you are attractive it is flirting
approach female, if you are unattractive it is creepy
that is really all that word means, is she doesnt find you attractive when you are flirting with her
https://vimeo.com/30042289
>>28173034
I had a therapist tell me I make good eye contact today, not too much not too little. The small victories mang.
I look at people while they talk but only glance at them occasionally when I'm the one talking. idk if that is what makes good eye contact, I should have asked followup questions.
>>28173039
it's not impossible, but it will be easier
I try to smile and say hello, they always smile and say hi back but then they keep walking.
>>28172816
This. My spic detector went off right away from this guy's plan.
After reading this thread I want to kill myself
the difference between being creepy and not creepy is simply how you look. Think about it, an ugly guy could go up to a girl with the smoothest line in the world and 9 times out of 10 will get shut down,
where as a Chad could go up to a girl and say the most cleeshae faggot shit going and she still wouldn't find it creepy.
>18
>loitering at a mall with friends
>see a qt in a Joy Divisin shirt and admire the back of her head as she leaves
>suddenly God himself floods my body with confidence
>sprint about 70 yards to catch up to her
>spend a full minute wheezing, trying to catch my breath as she looks at me on confusion amd disgust
>"D-do you like food ?"
>her facial expression gets worse
>"you want to eat some spaghetti at Zio's with me ? They're pretty tasty"
>she looks around before sighing out a yea sure
>pull out my garbage burner flip phone and ask for her number
>it takes her a minute to "remember" it but think nothing of it
>tell her Ill give her a call later so we can sort out the details
>walk away feeling like a fucking king
>still riding the high later that night I call her
>automatically goes to voicemail
>retain hope and keep trying, nothing but automatic voicemail
>on the 3rd day call for the last time
>"this number is no longer in service..."
Learned how to tie a noose that night
>>28173355
>cleeshae
anon...
>>28173383
What the fuck were you expecting. You literally chased after a girl just to ask her if she likes spaghetti.
Just BEE ATTRACTIVE
>>28173615
I was expecting her to react positively and be excited that I asked her out on a date. In hindsight it was a pretty autistic thing to do but theres a fucking reason Im on this board
>>28173828
tried something like this one time. I was even more direct, telling her to go out. She was in a relationship
>>28173868
same, she smiled and politely declined, didn't even tell anyone which was nice.
>>28173868
>>28174019
Probably because you guys said something normal instead of ask her to eat spaghetti.
guys is it faux pas to go into a store where you know a cute girl from uni works with the intention of friendly conversation and then getting her number? i'll go in to buy something to make it seem normal and not autistic
i always saw her glancing at me and i miss that feeling
>>28174333
that depends on the type of store
>>28174088
I said "Hi, do you like food ?" How is that not normal. How the hell are you supposed to ask girls in public on a date.
>>28174391
clothes
>>28174411
buy a thong and tell her to model it for you
but really, it's not too bad.
>>28174398
Everyone likes food you autistic sperglord, and not everyone picks up random girls they see on the street. It's weird to approach strangers and ask them out, and it's even weirder for girls who do accept dates from guys who just walk up to them on the street. Why the fuck would you want to be with a girl who just gets with anyone that approaches them anyway?
>approach someone to talk
>I'm standing up while they're sitting
>after a while they say "well it was nice talking to you"
>thought I was supposed to be the one to end the convo since I approached
Is that the same as getting dismissed
>>28174515
>Is that the same as getting dismissed
yes
>>28172499
1, be tall
2, be handsome
>>28175046
or
1, be muslim
>>28172967
>I'm 6 feet tall
how the fuck are you a robot?
>>28175046
>tfw tall but not handsome
>>28175152
Height doesn't mean fucking anything
>>28175195
hahahaha shut up asshole
>>28175082
You know my pain anon, it's so sad to see.
>>28172499
make them laught(but not at your expense) they will forgive the word creepy
>>28172499
>do not see females
>do not look at females
>do not contact any females
>do not approach any females
>do not talk with or at any females
>do not be near the vicinity of females
>do not respond if approached by females
>do not view any images or videos of females
>do not imagine making contact with any female
>do not believe you may be seen or heard by females
>do not sit, stand or be where you may be seen by females
>do not take do any activities where you may think of females
>do not touch any furniture or structures used by females
>do not handle or prepare food or drink for females
>do not leave traces you exist near any females
>do not remember encounters with females
>do not contact family that are females
>do not breathe near any females
>do not think by any females
>do not live near females
>do not see females
>>28172499
creepy denotes insectoid features, IE indications of a lower life form
get the picture?
>see cute girl from university in mall
>walk after her
>just want to say hi
>she speeds up
>change tactics and fall back
>observe her
>she heads into a store
>i wait around the corner
>eventually she leaves
>step in front of her
>smug.jpg
>"why hello there"
>she screams
>notsosmug.jpg
>calls me a creep and leaves
i hope i will be reborn a chad next life. fucking double standards.
i bet if i were a chad she would have called me mysterious and cute. fucking chads.
>>28172499
Improve your confidence
>>28172499
Dress nicely and comb your hair. No one wants to talk to smelly slob wearing a sonic shirt.
>>28173355
>cleeshae
holy kek
>>28172499
Don't be ugly
Don't be short
Don't be poor
If you're any of the 3, enjoy your rape accusation and years in jail
>>28175152
>>28175295
>>28175295
Height means nothing.
I'm 6'3" and complete khhv
>>28173355
>cleeshae
wew lad
>>28173161
Mexicuck here. Normies are always talking in my uni's library. There is even a "group study section" but they ignore it and come to the individual study section to chat. Why are they like this? Don't they care at all for other people?
>>28172499
>Approaching girls
Am I the only one who never does this?
Don't think about having sex with them?
You've got to a be a certain type of person to introduce yourself and sexuality at the same time and be successful at it. If you're thinking about having sex or that's the reason that you're talking to them, they can smell it on you.
>>28179356
Agreed
I don't get why robots even try anymore.
They're just gonna reject/insult you on the spot.
The only way I can get remotely close to females is emailing random fem"""bots"""
>stay inside all day
>every day
>when I do go outside it full of hot and cute women
>don't even care I just want to be home again
I know sometimes acting crazy like bug eyes and talking to yourself can get out of most situations but it's the girls that really want you that scares me.
>me hooker at bar
>drive her around before realizing who she is
>make ungodly mistake of giving her my number and showing her inside my living quarters
>makes it her business to bother me for a few days relentlessly
>phone calls blowing up my cell
>midnight bangs on my door
>get scared and wonder if killing myself would solve my problems
too this day I still consider suicide and make no further attempts of interacting with the opposite sex
>>28172499
Be attractive anon. At least try combing your hair and cutting your nails (normies can notice virgins/autists from long nails btw).
its literally not in your control
different people are more open/skittish and you might be ugly or handsome etc
You'll never be able to. Because you've deeply internalized your problems and made them a core part of your identity you will always give off creep vibes. Because you'll never be able to move past a crushing fear of rejection that will make everything you do seem just a little to forced, stilted and unnatural
its simple - do what i do:
never talk to anyone ever and hope you die every night
>>28179645
ive heard the nails thing too, since nobody wants their roastie getting cut up when fingered
>>28172499
Wear a fedora and *tip* the brim at whomever you think fancies your feathers.
By not being ugly.
>>28172649
So this happens with one girl and you give up?
Ive seen 300 pound lards get girls by being persistent.
Girl speaking from experience: Just be you. If you don't click with a girl right away then maybe that's a sign that your personalities will not go well together. There are girls out there that will appreciate you and all your weird traits. She will have her own for you to appreciate too. Be patient goddammit, sometimes you guys are worse than Disney princesses waiting for their perfect prince to come
>>28181188
underrated b8 tbo
>>28181188
>Girl speaking from experience
That experience being hundreds of cocks in all of your holes
Pls die
>>28181238
>>28181200
Please don't ever change <3
>>28181188
dub dubs speak the half truth
except the "clicking" part is solely based on looks when it comes to women. looks matter to men as well, but I feel as though we're more open to trying something new, or something not horrendously fat/ugly.
women on the other hand can't accept the fact that not everyone fits their fantasy world view, so they never give someone outside of their niche a chance.
when you find that qt that likes you for what you are, it becomes 10x easier talking to women.
>>28172499
DON"T TRY. KIDNAPPING IS OUR ONLY OPTION AND BRAIN WASHING THEM UNTIL THEY LOVE YOU AND THINK THERE PARENTS LEFT HER.
>>28181377
That is such a broad generalization. Typical r9k, though. No matter what the majority of you seem to believe, appearance is not the top priority to every woman. For God's sake my room mate is 400lbs, smells like a pet shop, has acne, greasy hair, and is unemployed...and still managed to get a girlfriend who is nice looking. He's also got a shit personality if you ask me, but regardless! Stop giving up because of your anxiety fueled delusions. You're missing out on life.
>>28181441
>For God's sake my room mate is 400lbs, smells like a pet shop, has acne, greasy hair, and is unemployed...and still managed to get a girlfriend who is nice looking
And i won the billion dollar lottery, see how easy it is to lie on the internet you dumb faggot?
>>28181441
It's a valid generalization, though. Your "roommate" is one case in a million.
>>28181450
Ahhh oh no you got me! I'm lying about my disgusting roommate for the benefit of strangers on the internet...? You're so smart!!!!?!!
>>28181012
But girls in lesbian porn have even longer nails.
>>28181463
That's my point, it's not one case in a million. I'm telling you this to give you valid hope, because it really happens all the fucking time...even if R9k will try it's hardest to tell you otherwise.
>>28178961
>Don't be poor
That's bullshit.
>>28181471
for the benefit of baiting yes
>>28181512
And why am I "baiting"? Explain this to me. Jesus, it's been a while and I almost forgot how ridiculous you guys are.
Having been where you are I can say the hardest one is the first because you don't have anything to give you confidence. When you have no one in your life its virtually impossible to seem even close to normal. Most of starting up with a girl is how you feel, its not as much about her. You're auditioning yourself, but you're a pollen in the wind, you don't even remember who you are.
What you need to do is ease yourself into it all with whores or a practice fattie.
>>28181505
It is a case in a million, though. Don't try to delude robots with your bullshit. I'm a normie but at least I don't spread those lies.
>>28181583
Whores and fatties are some of the most shallow people you will ever meet. Terrible advice.
>>28181617
Stay virgin then
>>28181538
because 1+ of the things you have told us isn't true.
>>28172795
Go to a bar and buy a girl a drink there.
People in coffee shops usually don't want to socialize; they're there to do work or grab a coffee. It's like trying to hit on a girl in the library.
>>28181506
If you're not Chad, then you better have money, or else talking to a woman is rape
>>28181610
You're the only one trying to delude people here. Fun fact: Normies don't refer to themselves as normies. Another fun fact: normal people don't generalize an ENTIRE GENDER WITH RIDICULOUSLY BROAD STATEMENTS AND NO VALID ARGUMENTS. I'm fully aware that r9k is just a bunch of butthurt lonely guys like you looking to crush the spirit of anyone with an ounce of hope, just to further perpetuate the contagious self-loathing of this place, I get it. You guys just never cease to amaze me I guess.
>>28173355
Not true. Pickup lines are for stupid dickheads and only sluts will acknowledge you exist if you use one.
>>28181684
I don't see the problem here. Better than fucking some deformed landwhale.
>>28181505
Please name 5 other greasy 400lb acne-ridden unemployed men with gf's
>>28181692
AHHHHHHH YOU'RE CALLENGING MY CREDIBILITY
>>28176225
Rule #1
Do not stalk. If a girl is clearly uninterested, why would you still go after her?
Spill your drink on her as an ice breaker
>>28181684
Uh you're about 6 years too late sorry
>>28181753
why not? tbo
>>28181731
Now you're just being ridiculous. Want more proof? Stop asking anonymous people on the Internet and go out into the fucking world.
>>28181377
No it isn't. Not a chick, but I'm pretty ugly (huge nose, chubby) and I can still get qt's to talk to me because I'm charismatic.
>>28181779
THIS. Ugly dudes get girls all the time (no offense). IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE I REPEAT IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE
>>28181774
It's fucking creepy and you can get yourself in trouble, at least in your case, where you fucking followed a random chick to a shoe and intentionally frightened her. Watch some Woody Allen movies for examples of non-creepy persistence.
>>28181717
Normies say they are normies all the time here, wtf are you talking about.
Your personal anecdote experience called "roommate" don't count as argument either, buddy. I'm not trying to destroy anyones hopes here, I'm simply not deluding people like you're doing.
>>28181778
I do go outside, stop making projections.
I run a business and I'm only ever online at night to shitpost and play vidya.
I have yet to come across any woman that does not abhor me upon first site, even my own mother.
Now stfu
stare at them for hours on end especially after they tell you to stop. and then get angry at them after they reject you and tell them they're ugly
>>28181813
>random
she's not random it's clear he was hitting on her. to roasties, creep = guy who isn't chad doing what she wants chad to do
>>28181817
> Normies
> here
Pick one.
I told a true story and you are deciding it is not true in your own crazy little mind, because I, an anonymous poster, have soooooooo much to gain from lying...? Again, go out into the world and you will soon see that you are a complete imbecile for thinking the way you do.
>>28181838
I definitely believe you because your logic is definitely that of a normal well-adjusted person's logic lol
>>28181870
i agree, i don't really see what joy you get out of lying. yet here we are
>>28181870
Yeah, totally true because you said so. Also, why are you so upset?
>>28181931
AHHHHHHH I'M SO UPSET. AHHHHHHH THID GUY KEEPS CHALLENGING AN ANONYMOUS POST OF AN ANONYMOUS STORY ON AN ANONYMOUS MESSAGE BOARD. Okay I'm done now, my boyfriend is ready for bed so goodnight it was fun while it lasted
>>28181973
>boyfriend
there it is. we're done here, boys
>>28181991
> boys
There it is we're done here boyfriends
(I knew if I said that youd like it)
>>28181893
Who said anything about well adjusted?
I inherited the business from my grandparents and now I'm just an office drone.
>HURRR DURRR UR NOT SOUNDING LIEK DA PERSONZ I KNOW XP
Can you seriously fuck off back to whatever normie shithole you crawled out of?
>>28182010
care to send some pics of yourself? i'm ready for a fap then i'm off to bed as well
>>28182025
Omg who's mad now lol. Also cool lies, I own 3 businesses
I gotchu senpai.
Source: http://www.returnofkings.com/41375/the-supreme-value-of-day-game
>>28181812
I will say though, I'm not hideous. I've seen some people on this board who are really really ugly and it's hard for me to imagine them being able to get a girl to fuck them. Even then, if you have a good personality, they might. You have to learn the ropes though. I'll give some pointers, maybe this will help.
>starters: go to a bar. only experienced flirts can pull off broad daylight flirtation, unless the moment seems natural. No hitting on waitresses or store clerks, unless you've made a joke that makes her laugh and she seems realistically comfortable with you. Even then, go light. Don't force anything or else you'll seem like a perv.
>at the bar: find a nice spot. smoking spots are good because people are standing around doing nothing and easy to start a convo with. Having a friend is a good idea, because you don't have to come up with the whole convo and you also don't seem like a desperate loner.
>approaching two or more girls, because they'll be more comfortable together.
>find the one with the best personality. It doesn't matter if her friends are hotter, as long as she isn't a hideous land whale, it will be so much less painful flirting with her. Also, if you can't connect at all with a girl, it becomes obvious quickly that you're just looking for pussy.
>ask her something, it can be stupid. I find that pretending you don't have a lighter and asking for one is good groundwork. Then ask something like where they're from or if she's a student. Seems stupid but gets the convo going. When she tells you, think of something you know about the place (it can be stupid, like she's from Iowa ask her if everyone in Iowa is actually a corn farmer) When she answers, act like you're interested and keep shooting the shit. Questions are good because girls think listening means understanding or caring, even if you couldn't give half a fuck what they're talking about.
>>28182066
Congrats on your business.
How goes tax season?
I'm getting audited because we had an illegal cleaning our floors and I didn't know, now they're looking for other illegal business expenses.
>>28182084
>analyzing getting laid this hard
a true robot emulating normies. well done, anon
Protip: Not all women are assholes. Even if you're Quasimodo
>>28182162
wrong and gay
>>28182162
Quasimodo didn't get shit in that movie. Don't you bring him up. Fuck off.
>>28172649
This is fucking painful to read.
NEVER approach random women in public. Unlike the movies, the vast majority of couples meet through mutual friends, at parties or other organized social events. NOT AT RANDOM IN PUBLIC.
>>28182202
But I'd like to add they probably weren't laughing to ridicule you. It was probably more of a "holy shit did he just do that" mixed with pity laugh to ease the awkwardness
>>28182084
>>28181812
>laugh often and joke with them. Light jibes are my go-to but not offensive enough to make them hate you, just to establish that you are confident in yourself and have a penis. Mix this with some healthy self-deprivation to prevent her from dismissing you as an arrogant douche.
>gradually shift the convo to deeper stuff, like what she likes to do, what she cares about. You know, things you would ask someone who you want to be friends with.
>get deep enough then tell her something personal and emotional about you. It doesn't even have to be true; hell, none of this convo has to be true. You can pretend to be a Harvard grad trying to become an artist, as long as you can play the role.
>when you open up (btw, don't make yourself seem pathetic), she will open up
>listen to her problems, I know, it blows, but you have her on the hook, you just have to keep reeling
>tell her you're getting a drink and ask her if she wants one. If she says no, tell her you're buying her one anyway but she doesn't have to drink it. (Trust me, she will)
>when you get the drink slip a Xanax in her drink
>just kidding
>give her the drink, talk some more. Finding a good place to sit away from her friends is key. If the convo seems like it's waning, ask her if she wants to dance or go to another bar. Dance. You can be shit, as long as you don't go full autismo, you're fine.
>eventually, she'll become attached to you if she isn't already.
>keep partying, drinking with her, talking to her. The only thing stopping you now is if she has a bitchy friend. Getting her to go alone with you to another bar is gold bc without her friends she'll be more likely to fuck you, especially if she has some more drinks.
>touch her. Don't grab her ass, but when you go to the other bar, press on her with your shoulder. If she doesn't grab your arm, ask her if she wants a piggy back ride or something stupid.
>>28182288
holy shit anon, you're fucking smooth. i don't think i'm gonna do any of this though until i get over the bitterness women don't have to do anything to have good lives
>>28172632
>conversation at the library
:|
>>28181694
And what if you're not an alcoholic degenerate?
>>28182148
It works, man. I might be a sociopath, but everytime I do this, if I get to stage of being alone with her, I'm in. Anyway:
>if she puts her head on her shoulder, she wants it. Get her drunk enough and bring up the topic of sex. Obviously do it indirectly. Like ask her about the worst boyfriend she's ever had and when she answers ask if he was good in bed. Now here's the kicker: don't ask her if she wants to fuck just yet. You've implanted the idea of sex into her head but you can fuck it up if you make it obvious this whole time you've just been looking to fuck her. Talk about some more deep stuff. Dance. Drink. Joke around with her.
Now there are two choices:
>1. Eventually, when you're both drunk enough and you're touchy-feely look into her eyes and don't say a word. Try to kiss her. If she says no, or gives off a weird vibe, stop. It will be pretty obvious if she's playing hard to get or she doesn't want to fuck. If she doesn't, it's over. You lost. Who cares though. You got some practice in and, if she's drunk enough, you can text her tomorrow and ask if she wants to go out again. Or you can fucking forget about her.
2. Wait until the bar closes or becomes dead. Ask her what she plans on doing tonight, her response doesn't matter. Tell her you have some booze and ask her if she want to come to your place, maybe watch a movie. If she says no, insist, tell her it will be fun. If she keeps saying no, and she's obviously not down, back off. Make sure to get her number and try again later or just forget it.
Anyway, hope this helps.
>>28172499
stop being so ugly
>>28182394
>browsing r9k
>calling someone else a degenerate
Meet a girl at bible study and ask her if she's ever considered coitus
>>28181858
Keep telling yourself that. It doesn't matter how handsome you are, if you stalk a girl, she's going to think you're creepy.
getting laid sounds like too much work. i'm gonna rebel against the system and just browse the web desu
>>28172788
I'm a mediocre looking fella, but that works for me. It doesn't work if you decide to force it. A lot of times I see something about them, what they are doing, or something beyond appearance that drew my interest and I just speak my mind.
Not every conversation will go places, but if you aren't in the mindset of trying to make it go somewhere and you just behave like this casually, you won't care.
That last part is the key, you have to stop caring. Just start talking to random people during the day. See someone wearing a cool tie? Mention it. Line moving slow and the person next to you looks bored or uncomfortable waiting? Crack a joke or something.
Not everyone is going to engage you, but don't expect them to. Very rarely someone will flat out ignore you. Many people will surprise you though and suddenly you're having a conversation that way.
Same way to meet girls, treat them exactly the same as above, if they're friendly and you strike up a conversation, then try and make a connection. Learn to tell when you actually connected, introduce yourself, if she isn't rushing off then ask for her number when one of you has to depart from the conversation.
Basically just stop worrying, shoot the shit with people, and be friendly
>>28182288
This is literally too much work
I don't give a shit enough to do all this. Even if I tried and I scored a 99/100 she would never talk to me again because I wasn't good enough
>>28182544
Well, I'm an antisocial fuck and I'm alone, but it's not like I eat tendies and jack off to lolis all day, so I don't really think I'm much of a degenerate.
Still, not only can I not stand the taste of alcohol, but I also can't stand being around anybody who's noticeably intoxicated. People talk about how some people are "fun drunks" but I've yet to ever meet somebody who doesn't transform into an insufferable douche once they get alcohol inside them.
It really gets me down thinking that in order to have any kind of social life in this society you have to poison yourself and become a giant asshole.
>>28182362
that kind of thinking is
a. Not true. Women actually have a worse time finding a good bf because money and success don't appeal to men; good looks are the only thing that matter, and if you're ugly, you're shit out of luck.
b. Irrational. Why should women having easy lives have anything to do with getting laid?
Question for the normie sensei's:
Does alcohol make women horny? Or are they just using it as an excuse to unleash their inner whore?
>>28182627
It really isn't much work. You just have to get the formula down and then repeating it is a breeze. Also, if you don't care enough to learn, you don't have to. When I lost my virginity, I realised that sex doesn't matter at all. I just find the process entertaining and the fucking is fun as well. Also, being able to touch someone in an intimate way is comfy af. Hard to explain.
>>28172967
I am basically you
>>28182632
Have you ever considered that maybe you're the giant asshole?
>>28173068
It's creepy because a lot of guys are socially retarded and can't tell when someone is uninterested. When a girl is unattracted to you because you're ugly, but you aren't socially retarded and recognize it, that's when your flirting can be "charming", "cute", etc
You know that ugly guy who occasionally gets the good looking girl, but usually ends up with someone only slightly more attractive? He understands the cues, that's why he manages to flirt without being creepy. He accepts rejection and doesn't seem threatening as a result; people who don't accept rejection (and often fail to even realize they've been rejected) are called creeps because they bother or worry people
>>28182753
Of course not. I'm alive so literally the only person that matters is me. All the other people are basically NPCs, I just wish they weren't such assholes.
Besides, I act nice IRL, I act polite to people, nobody knows that I think they're all scum.
>tfw no cute, short-haired, spunky, sporty, tomboy gf
How do I get one?
>>28182865
have you checked ebay??
>>28182821
God you're smug. If you keep thinking like this, you're going to be a lonely permavirgin your entire life. And that's ok. Just realise that you're the only one to blame for your loneliness.
If you are unattractive you are creepy to a girl no matter how you act. Here is how it works
>Tyrone Niggerdick: ey gurl u wan sum fuk? *dickpic*
>Girl: oh lol wow that is so not creepy at all, haha when do we meet?
>Neckbeard: hi
>Girl: WTF that is so creepy i am seriously traumatized right now why would you do this?
>>28183028
How delusional can you be?
>>28183047
that's is an accurate representation of what happens in the female's head, no matter what she says
>>28182688
inner whore
>>28183047
looks like u somehow managed to miss every chad thundercock tinder thread
>>28182821
Somehow I hope this is real. The epitome of "Why won't these cunt ass whores sleep with such a nice guy like me? Life's so unfair."
>>28172660
>short and simple
it's simple, stupid
>>28182727
>I just find the process entertaining
That's the trick. You start to enjoy the process from meeting to sex, its called game afterall. If you focus on that and be in the present then the sex part isn't weighing you down.
>>28183222
nice trips oregano
>>28183280
Exactly. It's like learning to program. At first, it's difficult and all you want is the end result. Sooner or later, it becomes natural and you enjoy doing it regardless of what happens.
A lot of people here think that all women are boring slags, when in reality they can be comfy as fuck. Good women are like men but soft and cute. Talking to them is fun, and even if you don't get laid, you get some nice comfy feels from them.
>>28183195
>>28183195
I dont care that much about getting laid or anything like that. I want to like people which is why I really do try to be nice. I get along very well with everybody I know but people just don't make any God damn sense to me and I draw the line at anything that involves alcohol.
>>28183350
You sound like a 14 yo edgelord.
>>28182821
>nobody knows that I think they're all scum.
oh yes they do
>>28183343
It's the opposite for me. I used to enjoy the act of programming but nowadays I just want shit to work already
>>28183350
That's because you're judgemental person that merely fakes affection for others' for validation, which wouldn't be so bad, but you clearly suck at it and people that don't have to deal with you see right though you and rather avoid any interaction with you, meaning people that you get along with don't actually like you, they merely tolerate you for the sake of least resistance.
>>28172499
have well developed arm chest shoulder and back muscles. If you don't have them you are creepy no matter what except to select few women who like skinny guys. I am a creep to all except women like my gf who for some reason don't have that exclusive preference for muscular men. When I was buff for 3 years I had the attention of any woman. But it was hard to maintain and I let it slide and I'm a wimp again, and all women think I'm a creep again and talk to me as such.
Why even approach them, the way i see it is if they like you they will approach you. What do we as men have to talk about once we approach them?
>How are you, mate?
>How's the weather treating you
I bet she will think you have some tricks up your sleeves and only talking to her because she thinks you want her holes, even if you genuinely want a female friend. I don't see how it's possible to talk to woman outside of feels / girly things since you cannot talk to them about men things in the slightest.
Don't dress like travis bickle
Shave
Dress nice
Don't just randomly approach her. Find something to talk about like the book she's reading and go from there.
>>28183426
Why would you want to talk to them about anything outside of feels when you have men to talk to?
>>28183454
Who says i have anyone to talk to? Regardless what the fuck do you even talk about after the initial approach outside of the two things i mentioned. My mind is blank. You have nothing to talk to them about anything remotely related to men things that you know about because they won't care, understand, or understand a single word you are saying.
Also i've read time and time again giving a girl your feels is a stupid thing to do.
Females are stressful.
>>28183389
So how do I fix that? I do l the stiff this board recommends, I exercise, I eat well, I go outside, and I talk plenty, but none of that makes conversation any less of an unpleasant experience that if rather avoid.
>>28172575
Same here m8, people say I look pissed off constantly
>>28185313
>>28183582
At least someone told this to you, I think I've got the same problem but no one ever told me
>>28181176
No you didn't.
this is original fuck you
Give them a wedgy
>>28172649
Just eat a dead dog
>>28172967
i'm literally less than a 5/10, dress bad, skinny and unhealthy but people like me and you know why? it's because of how i act
i'm nice to everyone i meet, i don't act like the world owes me anything, i try have a good time regardless of any situation, i don't tell people my feels unless they really really wanna know about it etc.
the majority of how you succeed in life is based entirely on how you act with other people, it's not being confident that gets them but more something i learned as a kid - think before you act
you're gonna fail a lot at courting women and that's fine, just focus on the simple things and eventually it'll work out for you
>>28172499
Be 8/10 char with a lot of money
BE CONFIDENT BRAH
https://youtu.be/K0_oW-nA2kY
https://youtu.be/Lfj1pd33t6M
Just watch his channel. All by the books!
>>28181712
Money will only help you with sluts and single moms.
>>28181812
I'm like 4-5/10, 0 charisma, the only jokes I can make are about anime (by referencing ti something/someone from anime) or internet mems, and 99.9% of the time nobody understands me. I have a bit of that sweet mental illnesses, and really nervous. Have Do I have a chance? Probably with some weeb girl from my country (which is rareness). Btw, now I live in a really shitty neighbourhood, have no car, pretty poor, but I will probably get my grandfather's house after his death (there's no one else to get it).
>>28173355
Its not even that. A lot of it has to do with your facial expressions and body language. If you can make a girl feel desired and comfortable at the same time you're in control
>>28181717
>normal people don't generalize an ENTIRE GENDER
I guess r9k made up all gender stereotypes, race stereotypes etc, it's not that stereotypes have a hint of truth for the majority hence why they become a thing.
>>28186287
this is hilarious, thanks man
>>28182394
>alcoholic degenerate
You don't have to be alcoholic to visit bar and have few drinks sometimes
>>28182084
>>28182288
This is literally it. I've managed to figure out a few of these steps simply by taking my oneitis and her sister to a bar and watching other guys cuck me. Luckily at the time I wasn't a mess emotionally so I was able to take away a few lessons and use them in my own life. Still, the social anxiety kinda makes it hard to do this stuff on demand. Half the time I forget how to fucking talk. A reference like this to study and memorize is all I've ever needed. Thanks anon.
>>28182288
>when you get the drink slip a Xanax in her drink
>just kidding
I'm the one who needs the Xanax, not her.
>>28172499
Start smoking cigarettes. Smokers are the most quickly sociable group of people in existence because of junkie comraderie.
>>28172499
Walk up to a stranger and say, 'Are you a palaeontologist, because I've got a boner.' Guaranteed 100% success rate.
>>28183047
Go outside and interact with a female. You'll understand soon enough
>>28186042
>its how you act, not how you act
Outward confidence is a big part of it no matter how you spin it. Unless the girl is specifically into inexperienced guys who stumble through every other sentence the guy who can play the game without flinching is going to win
>>28188211
You don't have to be a smoker to ask for a light at a bar.
>>28182202
You're fucking retarded. You're all fucking retarded. Cold approach works everytime if you're not a complete sperg.
>>28187501
>tfw have all weeb girls in the world around me
>can't make jokes or talk about anime because autism and anxiety
>>28173355
>cleeshae
Damn anon. You get points for effort, though.
>>28188367
Maybe if you're approaching girls with low self esteem. Many of them are too stuck up to respond positively to anyone who isn't their personal 10/10. Add a reason to talk to them to the mix and you have a lot more leeway. Talking to the girl sitting next to you in class will yield better results for average looking men
>>28187501
ANSWER ME, YOU FIRST WORLD NORMIE SCUM!I fucked up the question (>Have Do I have a chance?), but still, I deserve an answer (blah blah blah you don't deserve anything)
>>28188367
>if you're not a complete sperg.
so nobody here? that includes you. watching PUA videos doesn't make you cool or swag
Step one: be attractive
Step two: don't be unattractive
>>28188595
Its important to clarify this only applies if you don't have another legitimate reason to talk to them. Plenty of ugly guys can make girls fall in love with them purely because of their personality. I've seen it happen first hand
You guys are going about it all wrong.
First you build an awesome life for yourself
THEN you get the girl
The problem with chasing pussy is that you're blatantly trying to drain the female of her value. You guys might not want to hear this, but the day you don't need pussy is the day you are truly ready to have it.
>>28188801
Problem is it would do a lot of us some good to have some positive encouragement along with way in the form of female interest
>>28188801
I agree completely.
My life is shit and any person that gets near me is probably drained, mostly because I feel like shit all the time, and tired.
I bought a notebook to write in thoughts and little treatises on topics relevant to me.
It all comes to willingness to admit to oneself what is outside of one's current capabilities. While it is vital to fully understand that the current state might and will change. Since the change happens in time and time flows, the amount of change only depends on one's efforts.
And even if at my best I will be incapable of romantic partnership(because my life would still be pretty shit), I would not regret a damn thing. I already did a lot of improvement in my life so far. And not a single action was regretted, only inaction or action motivated by avoidance of situations that bring me anxiety.
>>28188801
Did you really think this was insightful at all you stupid little faggot
Say "muh dick." Works every time.
>>28172649
>2016
>not being a closeted fag
You brought this on yourself, senpai
>>28172499
If you need to ask you would be better off embracing the sissy side of yourself.
>>28173355
>cleeshae
>>28190813
Kekekekekekekeekfhjcdjk
>>28172499
1. be attractive
2. post original comment
>>28172657
I find that hitting on waitresses is the best power trip. They are paid to be nice to you so they are a captive audience. Just start saying shit like, how's a pretty girl like you doing here.
This is the final blow, it creeps girls out to no end. Learned it from my lunatic friend who is a tested genius with narcissistic personality disorder.
When things get awkward, make them more awkward. Simply grin and then move your head in a circular nod, tilt your head back when retracting then forehead forward when nodding forward. It's creepy as fuck if you do it right.
Power tripping will get your rocks off.
Okay you fucking nigger listen hear, I am a 4th year negro in negro school and you are a fucking nigger that eats nuggers
