Anyone else remember when we fought back againt racism and authoritarianism with snarky memes?
Fucking leave reeeeee3e3eee3e3
>>28146183
They also used to post cp all the time.
>>28146183
Yes, and now we are swarmed with /pol/ and conservative religious nutjobs. Sad, like the death of an era.
>>28146204
the good old days
>>28146183
Le good old dehs XD
>>28146183
Fucking newfag normie, not understand the meaning of anything
Those leading the fight against racism stopped fighting against authoritarianism and fully embraced it. This made their movement much less appealing.
>>28146183
>anyone else remember when we were underage?
>we fought back againt racism and authoritarianism
you what
>>28146183
wrong flag you collectivist socialist statist shill
>>28146183
I remember when sabu tried to fuck us all, yeah.
>>28146292
My top niggar
>its a tumblr transplant thats been here for a month claims to be an oldfag episode
>>28146292
>>28146324
you people need to be taken for a ride too. fucking capitalist commies
>>28146183
Fuck off reddit
Anonymous is a shitty ood meme and only you sjw autists would be foul enough to pretend to be super ebin liberal hackers
>le anonymouse meme group
>at all concerned with racism
Get off my site
No, I really don't remember, but hey I've only been here since late 2007. Antiracism isn't even remotely transgressive.
>Hope you don't lose your job for being anti-racist
Said no one ever.
>>28146292
>"anarcho"-capitalism
>ansoc and ansyn is statist
oh boy, we got a joker
>>28146292
Based anon.
>>28148015
Fuck off commie scum
>>28146292
my uncle touched my peepee so society needs to die: the ideology
>>28148871
you're thinking about left anarchism
>>28146183
went to shit as soon as it became ultra-libera,
clearly the original anonymous came from 4chan and like they do with all our memes reddit took it and posted it on fb
>>28146204
thats when anonymous wasnt full of SWJ fags and were all about the lulz.
Remember when conservatives were the lunatics of society?
>>28149707
The good fucking old days.
>>28149707
They still are
>>28149818
You get called libertard at the drop of a hat all over the Internet now, regardless of the truth.
>>28149707
They are, soon the racist, misogynistic, transphobes that lurk places like /pol/ will be a forgotten minority, and the world will become united as a place with no borders, no nations, and no races. Soon, every human will be mixed at some point and there's no point in fighting it.
Everyone should be racemixing with pure qts while they're still around.
>>28149818
Keep telling yourself that, lad.
costanza.original
>>28149894
i am mixed and i hate mixed people
i won't settle for any disgusting mixed girl, pure white or east asian women only
>>28149894
>societies function better when everyone is the same
>but this somehow doesn't apply to ethnically homogenous nations
>>28149894
>misogynistic
>bad
get out.
>>28149888
>internet
>at all indicative of real life
>>28149929
I see nothing wrong with this image
>>28149894
You do relaize every generation will have a new set of "racist,misognists, transphobes whatever. It's the inevitable self defeating cycle of progressivism.
>>28146183
and despite what people say it was fun
it was fucking fun
>>28150026
>I see nothing wrong with this image
Go through a list of nations where homosexuality is criminalized and get back to me.
>>28149963
Retard, you'll only make more mixed people either way. End yourself self-hating piece of shit.
4chan was just like that because it was the Bush years. The shit will flip flop continuously.
>fight back against racism
Nigger, the word nigger was used all the time.
>Happy Negro
>Pool's closed due to AIDS
>>28150211
Also, please refer to the image.
>>28146183
>Anyone else remember when we fought back againt racism
No, because 4chan has always been a bastion of casual racism
>>28149929
why are my countrymen so fucking retarded
they sit outside christian churches calling them bigots then at the same time defend mass immigration and the islamisation of the west
I wish some of the faggots in that pic could just be placed in Saudi for a year, then see if they still fight against "Islamophobia" when they get back
Labour and leftism are literal cancer
Libcom fags are equally retarded with this idea that "a world without borders" could even function
>>28149979
Nations were a mistake, the longest peace in European history is still Pax Romana.
>>28150242
>Not this dark and lowly part of the internet has come to support authoritarianism, collectivism, fundamentalism, regression, and racial supremacy.
Fixed that for him :^)
>>28150312
Why are you so offended? :^)
>>28150277
>why are my countrymen so fucking retarded
My pain is far greater than yours.
t. Russia
>>28149894
>transphobes
weak bait
>>28146183
>Anyone else remember when we fought back againt racism
That literally never fucking happened. 4chan was always "racist".
>>28150277
this. funny how all those leftist SJW fags fight for causes/people that dont give a fuck about them. those mudslime pig fuckers would behead those fags the second they steeped into camelfuckingland. just like when white people join the "black lives matter" protests and niggers beat em down.
>>28146217
Iv only been here a few months.
Interesting to hear this place was once less dumb.
>>28150651
Then leave?
Nothing's keep you here, friendo.
>>28149929
funny thing is the Nazi party had quite a few homos in positions of power
Can't really say the same for ISIS
>>28150651
>Iv only been here a few months.
Yeah, that pretty much sums up all the ''le chonz used to be liberal bro'' faggots.
>>28146183
Yeah it turned out the anti-racists were the authoritarians
That we are anonymous video really marked the death of the anonymous "movement"
I has a sad and want cheezburger
>>28146183
Anyone remember when Europe wasn't a third world shit hole with Muslims everywhere and high rape crime? Me neither.
anyone remember:
>around blacks never relax
>happy nigra
>rape is just an African hello
>AIDS in the pool
>bix nood
>shoop da whoop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJx3Y75LYXE
>b-b-but 4chan was just being "ironic!"
here's something you historical revisionists have probably never heard before: get back to Gaia
remember when that didn't happen? Yea me too
Remember when it wasn't against the rules to criticize hotpockets for deleting threads that do not break the rules?
The other leftist thread on here was deleted for no reason. Same thing happened yesterday.
>>28151511
It was ironic. People like you just fucked up and thought it was serious you damn autist. You probably think /v/ hates games and fun
Why are autists allowed Internet access
>>28146292
>wants freedom
>wants even more slavery
??????????
Are there even oldfags on this site anymore?
I started coming here five years ago and I still consider myself relatively new.
>>28150252
It's even a little more than that. Race realism and Jewish conspiracies have always been fairly common.
>>28150066
Such is the result of their "everything is problematic" worldview. Nothing cn come of it except masochistic conformism.
"Anonymous? no I'm not twelve"
~Every actual hacker ever
>>28146183
So, never, you newfag?
Please be trolling please be trolling
>>28146292
Rich people are victims because the state taxes them: the ideology
>>28151894
Yeah, taxation is theft. Fuck you poorfag, why should I pay for your shit?
>>28146292
holy fuck this is even more retarded than being a commie. kill yourself quick before you turn 16 its all downhill from there.
>>28151969
>rich people are evil xD fuck capitalism!
>>28151736
Yes but they aren't on /r9k/, i am from 2010 and back then 4chan was even more racist than today
>>28151894
Panama Papers check.
>>28146850
I'm pretty sure this site has no real ideology besides contrarianism.
When the society's pendulum swings right again 4chan is going to go full Communist.
>>28152119
Where are they?
I think /a/ has a relatively large population of people from 2009-2010
>>28150170
Eh in two generations his descendants will be integrated into one race and indistinguishable from anyone else.
>>28146217
totally wrong
but enjoy your fantasy delusion
>>28152085
lol did I say there was anything wrong with capitalism? At least communism would last more than 10 fucking minuets before collapsing in on its on asshole. Anarcho capitalism a retarded fantasy for 14 year old libertarians who decided they weren't edgy enough.
>>28152085
Everyone except AnCaps thinks Anarcho-Capitalism is retarded, even other capitalists.
>>28149707
I honestly miss when church ladies were the puritanical moral authority screeching who would think of the children instead of fat Muslims with pink hair dye and rainbow banners.
>>28152085
>>28151926
>>28146292
samefag lolololo
>>28149894
that's some spicy bait friend
(spicy)
Ah yes Habbo Hotel was a real hotbed of racism.
Anonymous never did anything of merit except maybe doxx people who harmed cats.
>>28150252
being ironically racist isn't being racist
austistic people who can't tell the difference and get offended shouldn't be listened to.
>>28152187
Explain to me how it's retarded without using memes
>>28150651
if you're not enjoying yourself you can leave ya know?
>>28152296
For the same reason actual Anarchism and Communism are retarded; government-free societies are never going to work.
>>28152184
>I don't like your ideology so you must be a teenager
Not an argument
>>28152271
>oh no my melanin-enriched friend, i'm just ironically racist
>>28151511
here comes the boss
Boss Nigger http://youtu.be/i-Fig_LoBy4
>>28151684
So they can make discussion boards that hate video games like /v/ ?
>>28152323
>government-free societies are never going to work.
Ancom and ansyn wouldn't mainly because human beings aren't altruistic. I don't see why ancap wouldn't work.
>>28152333
>implying actual black people used the Internet before 2006
retard
>>28152271
Ironic racism is still racism you stupid hipster faggot.
>>28152331
Ive never actually met an ancap over the age of 20
your ideology sucks because it simply wouldn't function, and the monied people you worship and fetishise don't even want it.
>>28152404
Ancap wouldn't work unless your a fan of social Darwinism. and if you are you should kill yourself
>>28152418
Tell me how calling someone a nigger is any worse than 4chan's casual abuse of ''faggot''.
There's literally nothing wrong with being racist.
>>28152442
>over the age of 20
Molyneux seems to lean more and more towards it although he probably isn't truly ancap
You still didn't provide any argument as to why it wouldn't work
>the monied people
>implying I'm a poorfag
>>28152477
Do you dislike social darwinism because you're a lazy, worthless piece of shit who couldn't survive a month without government handouts? Or is it something else?
>>28152404
Because it's 'anarcho'-capitalism for about five minutes before someone builds an army and makes himself king and within a couple years the world's covered in states again.
>>28152442
Billionaires who own monopolistic conglomerates would get fucked by the free market
>>28152418
psssst
I don't care (niggerino)
>>28152556
That wouldn't be in the interest of the private militaries
I am elder bot. I can give this as my own observation.
Most outcasts are naturally attracted to iconoclastic rebellion against the status quo and authority.
SJWs and what they stand for is the status quo now. Anybody who regularly follows news can see this. Almost all types of media are supportive to their cause, to the point where it looks very much like a conspiracy.
Also, people are really how incestuous politics is between government, media and pop culture.
I'm a libertarian but I would rather have a president so hated and maligned that every word and action is scrutinized thoroughly, than the slavish, drooling sycophants who are supposedly independent.
>>28152606
>SJWs and what they stand for is the status quo now.
no it isn't...
Luke-warm liberal democratic values are the status quo (at least in the west). Everyone laughs at 'ACCEPT MY FIFTY GENDER IDENTITIES' and 'SEX IS RAPE' types in real life.
Get off of the internet.
>>28152527
this
people who say they aren't racist are just liars, there's no need to hide your contempt for other races behind layers of irony
>>28152642
Explain more? I would begin to differ with you if you can provide points as to why it's not.
>>28152601
implying private militaries are a good idea?
>>28152642
Really? Is that why there's all this bullshit going on over North Carolina denying a law that literally affects less than 1% of the population?
>>28152540
lol to bad your fantasy (in which you would have your skull caved in by some poor people) is never going to be a thing. stay mad
>>28146183
No because that never happened.
>4chan
>fought back against racism
No, dumb nigger
>>28146183
People forget we raided Hal Turner. Scientology, and basically mocked the shit out of the far right. The "racism" was nothing like it is today. Nobody seriously wanted to start a race war or any shit like that. This was distinctively libertarian and atheist
>>28152652
>there's no need to hide your contempt for other races behind layers of irony
How many black people have you killed? Planning to kill any anytime soon?
>>28152784
Why not?
>>28152824
not an argument :^)
>>28152843
Hal Turner was a controlled opposition FBI informant, and Scientology is not even a far-right thing.
>>28152867
>killing or hurting someone is a requirement in order to be racist
retard
Anyone else remember when we fought back against sjws and didnt let them spam their shitty threads everyday?
>>28152890
>Hal Turner was a controlled opposition FBI informant
pretty much all the far right leaders are snitches. Anyone publicly advocating a race war is running a honeypot
>Scientology is not even a far-right thing
I was just using it as another example. 4chan in the past did not have an authoritarian bias. There was racism but nothing like today. Today 4chan has people who actually have killed people in the name of white supremacy. I've actually seen /pol/lacks confess to killing slavs and planning to murder blacks.
>>28152926
There's no need to deny yourself anything your heart wants. You hate niggers so go out and do what you want. You want to kill them do it
>>28152642
>'SEX IS RAPE' types in real life.
Then why are affirmative consent laws being enacted? You're forgetting that sjwism is a lukewarm liberal democratic ideology.
>>28153035
>I've actually seen /pol/lacks confess to killing slavs and planning to murder blacks
this is how we know youre a bandnew fag. You take this site way to seriously. You should probably stick to reddit
>>28146183
It was also cool to hate George Bush and neoconservative in 2008.
Game is changed. The things we used to be for have been invaded by the same things we fought against. This is like some sort of strange Nietzschean tragedy where we have became the monsters we fought.
>>28153073
>You're forgetting that sjwism is a lukewarm liberal democratic ideology.
No it isn't...
SJWism is pretty ill-defined and is mostly a buzzword to hurl at people but it really seems to have more in common with radical communism than liberalism.
>>28153035
Because counter culture is the only realm they can exist in, even if it's only online. Admitted leftists, bombers, and people who publicly admit aiding black supremacists facilitate a prison break are accepted in normal society and even hold professorships in large universities. They are legitimately accepted members of mainstream society.
>>28146292
You're flag is looking a little yellow, did some reactionary scum piss on it?
'Anarcho'-Capitalism is not Anarchism.
>>28153121
>You take this site way to seriously
You just said 4chan has always been SERIOUSLY racist.
btw the guy who said he killed slavs was not joking. /pol/ really wants to kill people and there have been a few confessed killers. I'm pretty sure everyone is smart enough to know that talking shit on the internet is a good way to get partyv&
>>28153199
>'Anarcho'-Capitalism is not Anarchism.
Anarcho-Socialism is not anarchism.
Socialism by its very nature requires the enforcement of one set of morals (socialistic, collectivist morals) upon the rest of society. If you want to redistribute wealth, you're going to need a mob of aggressive leftists who can forcibly redistribute that wealth. And that serves the exact same function as any "state", or perhaps a worse function.
I'm not an anarcho-capitalist, but I believe in minimal government. I just find the very idea that people think "libertarian socialism" is possible fucking laughable. As if there is a way to preserve liberty when you also want to outlaw private property and abolish the idea of the individual.
>>28153145
> SJWism is pretty ill-defined and is mostly a buzzword to hurl at people
I agree with you on this, but unfortunately, the term has stuck.
> it really seems to have more in common with radical communism than liberalism.
It's freakishly individualistic and consumerist. They're mostly trying to create a more equal capitalist society, and their goals do nothing but assist in the implementation of globalist capitalism. Any communists among them are useful idiots.
>>28153195
>Admitted leftists, bombers, and people who publicly admit aiding black supremacists facilitate a prison break are accepted in normal society and even hold professorships in large universities
What left wing bombers have jobs at large universities? Who's aiding black supremacists?
>>28153199
Anarcho capitalism is the only true form of anarchism.
"Anarcho" communism restricts the individual's freedom.
>>28153284
I'm a fan of municipal communalism. It's like anarcho-socialism for grownups.
>>28153324
Dude. They had a professor from Drexel University who was in the public office bombings in the early seventies talk on NPR about it and they talked about it fucking candidly.
>>28153328
private property restricts my freedom
fuck you I'm taking your shit because I'm an individual
>>28146204
Then they decided to destroy all child porn ever. After succeeding in that endeavour, they killed Scientology dead. Then they destroyed the banks. Now they are killing ISIS and ruining Trump's campaign.
Damn, those fuckers can get shit done.
>>28153350
>You're all Spooks: the post
>>28146183
You mean being cringy as shit and ultimately accomplishing nothing?
>>28153284
>redistribute wealth
Under real anarchist the worker gets the full value of his labour. There is no need to redistribute anything.
>>28153383
Private property is a spook.
>>28153324
He's probably talking about Bill Ayers.
He is right that our society has a high tolerance for progressive violence and authoritarianism.
>>28153347
how good were his bombs? Did he actually kill someone?
4chan was left wing and liberal before all the GG neckbeards and the /pol/ cancer took over
>>28153350
Private property restricts your freedom because you're too stupid to succeed.
Die in a gutter, poorfag.
>>28146624
pee no shit
>>28153545
no it restricts my freedom because there are things that aren't mine
I want everything
>Remember
Yes
Ancom did not have anything to do with it.
>>28153340
>I'm a fan of municipal communalism. It's like anarcho-socialism for grownups.
It's more like small scale communism. It's gonna just become states again.
In a true social anarchist society you'd eventually find syndicalism and/or ancap.
>>28153542
>MUH GOOBERGATE
>>28153542
No it wasn't. It was rebellious against the ideology, mindset and values that were then in power. 4chan hasn't changed. Only the rationality of control and power has.
>>28153568
Then claim these things for yourself you weak cunt
If you can't defend it you don't deserve to have it
>>28153679
What compels white people to join an organization like Antifa?
It's like Africans joining the Ku Klux Klan.
>>28153542
>GG neckbeards
Are you serious?
4chan was largely opposed occupy.
>>28153542
>a nigger violently assaulting someone
>this is what we'll show racists to prove they're wrong about blacks being savages
>>28153705
but I do claim everything, so don't get mad when I pee on your house and run away when you see me
>>28153756
Then I'll just kill you for violating my property
>>28153756
>but I do claim everything, so don't get mad when I pee on your house and run away when you see me
The point of ancom is that there's no governing body. People choose how to deal with you.
so >>28153783 is valid.
But I highly doubt he'd want to kill someone over that.
>>28146292
>statist
-_-
>Being too stupid to recognize the flag of anarcho-syndicalism.
>>28153783
i don't know you, so if i pee on your house and then shoot you they've got no leads
>>28153877
Pretty sure that's just as true in any system.
Except a big brother police state.
>>28153926
exactly, so in a sense libertarianism is good because it lets me violate other people's property rights for my own benefit the most
>>28153950
>in a sense.
You can't count a universal as an argument for a specific thing.
It's like saying gravity works under Communism and that's why it's so great.
>>28153985
but the smaller the government is, the easier it is for me to break the law and trade the freedom of others for my own
that's causal
>>28153716
Media brainwashing desu
>>28154007
Yes as government tends towards zero there's less likely to be a government to enforce laws.
But there's also the fact that this guy could hire a merc(they currently have a bad rep)/security contractor to patrol the neighborhood. Perhaps they prefer the apprehension method is to shoot house-pee'ers on sight. Just like you would with people who hold hands.
>>28153716
Yeah I don't know.. I didn't think normal non-Muslim Europeans could be converted to Islamic terrorism but apparently that happens too.
>>28153542
>that filename
well so much for being subtle
>>28154080
so as it stands, in a libertarian society we have the freedom to pay money to what is essentially a new warrior class to be constantly on guard for rogue pissers?
this is something that getting rid of the state gives us the freedom to have to deal with?
>>28153454
>Under real anarchist the worker gets the full value of his labour.
>implying that the law of value holds in a post-capitalist society
>>28154080
Oh and the point was a dedicated guard would certainly be more effective.
>>28154124
>we have the freedom to pay money to what is essentially a new warrior class to be constantly on guard for rogue pissers?
Yes.
>warrior class
Well they won't have any support if they act out. They're there to do their job properly. Whatever that may be. I don't think this guys neighborhood would want the rogue pissers killed if it became an issue. Violence has a lot of issues associated with it and it lowers the value of property to have a public problem like that.
>this is something that getting rid of the state gives us the freedom to have to deal with?
Can't really parse this sentence well.
>do we all have to deal with that?
Yes we have to deal with the fact that people can pay for anything. But the same is true now. If someone who pays enough want some random NEET dead you will be dead.
It's likely there'd be some kind of organization that people pay to for the sake of keeping this kind of stuff in check.
I don't think people realize we will still have cities. It's not like people are going to all move out to rural areas and piss about for no reason.
>>28154222
what's stopping the neo-samurai from doing what the actual samurai did in forming a military government?
>>28154258
An armed population will stop that.
Also they can form their government somewhere people don't care about them. It's not like there's some government body to take over that gives you control over a large army. You have to amass a population of devout followers who will have to conquer lands.
But yes. If there's not enough focus on defenses for the population they will be in a bad way rather quickly from outside threats at least.
I'm not gonna attempt to answer every "how will anarchism work" question. But basically the idea is that since the government is nothing more than a group of people who decided things collectively with some form of support. The question is what wouldn't work?
Collective works like space travel is probably the biggest complaints. But in a democracy there shouldn't be any space travel unless there's interest. And an anarchist society isn't something we'd build from the culture of today. There's many many unknowns here.
>>28150242
The incorrect assumption being that 4chan is still edgy and controversial. It used to be. Now it's just full on conservative; there is nothing "anti-mainstream" about supporting the by far most popular Republican candidate or the most prevalent attitudes towards immigration and moslems. Bernie isn't mainstream - Bernie is losing. Trump is mainstream because Trump is winning. And 4chan loves him.
Even in a "cucked" country such as Sweden, the marxist, environmentalist and feminist parties have a total support of around 15% AT MOST, while the socially conservative (and casually racist) parties have a support of between 30 and 50%, depending on how you draw the lines, AT LEAST.
/pol/acks build up this notion of secret conspiracies, cultural marxist domination and feminist brainwashing in order to pain a picture of themselves as the brave little guys fighting the good fight against the Big Bad. But in reality, no one gives a shit about marxism outside of fringe acedamia, and no one cares about feminism outside of trumblr except as a way to score political points by paing lipservice (see: Trudeau). In reality, the global politcal scene has taken a HUGE step towards the right since the finiancial crisis, with nationalism, conservatism and outright nazism not only on the rise, but becoming more and more acceptable even among those who do not outright support them - all while the Left suffers humilating defeat after humliating defeat, with each precious little victory soon turning to ashes in their mouths (see: Syrza fucking up).
The only thing left for 4chan, if it wants to retain it's rebel spirit, is to go full circle: become a bastion of feminist and leftist ideology. This is not only a way to preserve the site's subversive nature, but also the ultimate troll: 4chan trolling 4chan in the worst way possible, destroying itself in order to be reborn. It is impossible, unthinkable... and yet therefore it must happen.
>>28146292
>ancap
Fucking retarded. Even worse than communism jesus christ.
Can someone explain to me why conservative Christian men with traditional values who adhere to right-wing politics have chosen to make themselves a home on a Nigerian bed frame maintenance imageboard known for ironic pedophila, anti-establishment hacktivism and the propagation of transgendered pornography?
>>28154523
>conservative Christian men with traditional values who adhere to right-wing politics
Because most of them don't actually give a fuck about any of those things and are just being edgy.
>>28154693
>having traditional values is considered edgy now
what a time to be alive
>>28154725
Fuck off cis nazi scum
>>28154725
I don't make a judgment on those values (in fact I largely agree) but it's the truth. How many /pol/lacks do you think are really devout Christians who care deeply about honor, loyalty, and tradition besides posting le epic trump maymays and jerking off over SS uniforms?
>>28154523
>>28154693
>>28154725
They are contrarians. The media is pro feminist, leftist and anti traditional values so /pol/ adheres to the opposite
This thread sucks, it's just a bunch of leftists jacking each other off pissing off right wingers. I can't wait till the day of the rope
>>28154693
But like it's explained in >>28154435, it's not actually edgy but pretty mainstream. And it's kind of always been. I dunno, claiming that you believe in traditional families and abstinence before marrige just seems a shitty way to be edgy on a site that used to have a guro board. I mean I get it as a meme, sort of like the joke about "my fav fetish is sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation" - but to have an ENTIRE board devoted to it FOR YEARS? A board that then leaks it's attitude over to r9k and other boards as well? Common!
>>28154725
Like I said, it isn't. It's as mainstream as it gets and has been mainstream for literally thousands of years, with at most a few decade-long exceptions limited to some countries. It's more like 4chan comming full-circle, and the most edgy thing left to do is to stop being edgy.
>>28154789
Some media is somewhat like that, but it's mostly lipservice. Lots of media is not (see: Fox News). Besides, that's a shitty explanation - "the TV said women are equals so I'm going to say they aren't on the Internet! 2 Edgy 4 U!". Again, doesn't make sense given the lengths this site went to in order to be edgy in the past. Contradicting mainstream media is what tons of radio- and talkshow hosts build entire careers on doing, it's not supposed to be the ENTIRE reason for existance for the supposedly most subversive board on the most subversive site on the net.
>>28154847
Oh great, a right-winger! Could you please explain this >>28154523 to me, friend? Why did YOU come here, tell me your story.
>>28154435
Thats alot of effort for b8 ill give you that
>bernie isnt mainstream
he has the support of prominent people, young people and isnt trashed by the media
>trump is mainstream
alot of trump supporters have to hide their views or else they will get robbed or assaulted
>The only thing left for 4chan, if it wants to retain it's rebel spirit, is to go full circle: become a bastion of feminist and leftist ideology
nice to see youre admitting why you sjws keep making these threads. You guys are raiding us and trying to make this place a leftist circlejerk like 99% of the internet
>>28154883
>Some media is somewhat like that, but it's mostly lipservice. Lots of media is not (see: Fox News)
youre retarded. fox news is watered down as fuck and shouldnt even be considered conservative while the rest of the media is unapologetically leftist.
>>28154973
>it's not right wing unless it's literally Franco
You must be really fucking dedicated to making this place tumblr 2.0 if you have to make this thread every day
>>28154890
>he has the support of prominent people, young people
People with no real power and who are in a clear minority.
>and isnt trashed by the media
No, he's ignored by the media.
But that's not the point. If 4chan trashed Bernie and instead supported some fringe right-wing politican who had no mainstream support that would still be the old 4chan: subverise by rejecting the more popular option in favour of the fringe one. But 4chan supports Trump, who is evidently more popular than Bernie. Doesn't matter how many supporterd Bernie has; Trump has more. Doesn't matter how many "prominent people" support Bernie - prominent people support Trump too.
My point wasn't "we should support Bernie u guyz!" - it was to ask why 4chan is supporting ANY of the major candidates instead of, I dunno, trying to get moot elected president or something. Deez Nuts was a good example of what could've been a great 4chan candidate.
>nice to see youre admitting why you sjws
Never said I was a sjw. I am not. I'm not a conservative, certainly, but unlike what most of /pol/ seems to assume, there are not just two options there (/pol/ack or sjw). I'm just an oldfag who is philosophising about the nature of this site. Sure, a leftist turn seems impossible. But from my perspective, your arrival and the turn to the right was impossible back when we where doing raids and trolling for the lulz. At this point, my theory is that 4chan will tend to become whatever is least likely for 4chan to become.
>>28154981
This. These guys have 0 nuance - you either support them 100% or you're a leftist, liberal, marxist, sjw, cuck.
>all this delicious /leftypol/ tears
Remember to sage friends
>>28155083
>This. These guys have 0 nuance - you either support them 100% or you're a leftist, liberal, marxist, sjw, cuck
>replying to yourself
kek
>>28154883
How am I a right winger? I just think you're fucking retarded coming here talking about
>lol white Christian males
But it's nothing more than a circle jerk, no good discussion what so ever. You have other websites to be a faggot at, why shit up this board more? Ffs at least tendie threads are somewhat entertaining
>>28155322
Its a leftypol raid. They have been pretty dedicated for the past few weeks. Just ignore it amd maybe they will leave
>>28155083
>My point... was to ask why 4chan is supporting ANY of the major candidates
Really based on your characterization of 4chan as being whole obsessed with contrarianism (which I completely disagree with by the way but that's irrelevant here) it seems like supporting Trump is the only logical conclusion. Think of the 4chan demographic: it's mostly college and high school aged kids. What is the dominant political persuasion in high schools and especially colleges? It's basically Sanders votes or people with even more extremely left wing views. The absolute best way to annoy those sorts of people is to vote for Trump, not moot or "deez nuts." So really, /pol/ is being the ultimate in contrarian here, within their own social group regardless of the wider social landscape.
>>28155083
Trump is more popular than bernie.
>implies that political parties are not mutually exclusive, that trump delegates and primaries could select bernie.
>implies that pop culture isn't an artificiality constructed meme, despite a simple Google search for trump under nees.
>implies that both facts considered, trump is lamestream and normal, despite a collective campaign of nearly the entire medua, that nakedly sympathizes with everything trump advocates, while their own values align with the democratically elected views of those who oppo5it, are normal and mainstream.
Yeah i hate neo-/pol/ too. They are all boring neocons now i dont even see any unironic jew hate
>>28155401
Can confirm. everyone i fucking know is a bernout
>>28155159
>le samefag meme
but no anon.
>>28153367
pretty sure they never did any of those things desu
>>28155322
Wow. I'm having trouble knowing where to begin.
First off, I'm assuming you are right wing BECAUSE YOU LONG FOR THE DAY OF THE ROPE. That is NOT a subtle cue, pal.
Secondly, I was being sincere and really want a right-wing perspective on this.
Thirdly, I am not a sjw nor did I express sjw views - I merely expressed the view that they way in which 4chan expressed subversion has changed and that I don't fully understand it. Not my fault that everyone on here is just so used to right-wing circlejerking that ANY opinion that is not blatantly right-wing or anti-sjw is assumed to be a sjw post.
Lastly, I am here because I was here first, faggot. I came here when moot got kicked out of SA. I was there from the beginning, and I will be here until the end thank you very much. The real question is: why are YOU here? You guys are the new arrivals. The OP is wrong, 4chan was never left-wing. But it wasn't right-wing either. It did crazy shit for the lulz. So what attracted you guys? Why make this degenerate shithole your home if you have traditional values? That is a genuine question on my part, and I hope that we can discuss it as adults.
>>28155401
A good point. But their own social groups, who as you say are mostly leftists, DON'T TEND TO COME HERE. Sure you'll see a Bernie thread or two, but those are clearly bait, and a few lost Bernie supporters trying to argue, but I'm guessing that's mostly trolling too. Point is, the people /pol/acks are trying to rebel against never see their act of rebellion. So for who's eyes is this done?
>>28155414
Missing the point, m8. Which is that Trump IS popular and pretty mainstream. Maybe not THE mainstream, but far more mainstream than, say, trying to make Bailey Jay the first trap president, which is the sort of thing 4chan would've tried a few years back.
>>28146252
This, sjws are basically the French revolutionaries.
It's funny that NEETs actually think Big Bernie will be a good thing for them. Socialism/Communism is basically angry SJWs replacing what they perceive as the "patriarchy" with themselves. The only true free man is an anarchist.
>>28155756
>Point is, the people /pol/acks are trying to rebel against never see their act of rebellion
Since when has 4chan's "rebellions," as you put it, had an audience?
Scientologists never came to 4chan. Hal Turner never came to 4chan (to my knowledge). Habbo Hotel users never came to 4chan. All the random people that got prank called never came to 4chan.
Point is: Trump posting is very much in line with "the 4chan way" or whatever you want to call it. Just because you personally don't like it doesn't' mean it represents some fundamental shift in the site.
>>28155756
i never accused you of any of that shit nor do I care. You are retarded for trying to push your half baked political agenda on a forum that glorifies chicken tendies and smug anime. I'll see you the day of the rope
>>28155929
>Scientologists never came to 4chan.
We came to them, in the sense that we did stuff that has some affect on them (not much at all, but still) and we did some shit publicly so others noticed. It's still what this site is most known for.
Same with Habbo and all that - they never came here but we came over there; did shit that had some impact (no matter how minor) and GOT NOTICED.
But in the Trump case, all that happens is that people who don't support Trump get called "cucks" on 4chan. There are no raids against Bernie or his supporters, no attempts to raise money for Trump or display public support for Trump through public acts and trolling (what if we voted Trump the Maxim sexiest woman of the year?). It's all confined to this site. No impact outside of it. And that is NOT the 4chan way - it isn't trolling at all. Just people who, mostly genuinely, are conservatives and like Trump.
>>28146183
We never seriously fought back against racism, and very little was achieved against authoritarianism. "Anonymous" wasn't even serious and didn't do shit. It was all basically a joke that normies suddenly took up and ran with, looking like morons in the process.
back to plebbit with you now, libtard!
>>28149707
>mfw Christians seem less domineering than modern leftys
>>28156117
But I'm not pushing an agenda; I'm wondering why everyone else is doing so on a site that, as you say, "glorifies chicken tendies and smug anime". People seem to take this political stuff waaaay to seriously. What happened to the trolls, the gags, the public stunts? It's all just "muh cuck meme" and "muh day-of-the-rope meme", but none of that even leaves this site... it's just the same tired old "jokes" being recycled, half-heartedly, by cynical young men who truly believe in most of what they are saying.
>>28156176
This. "Anonymous" was first and foremost a joke, and while they did some stuff that sjws might theorietically agree with, it was done for the lulz and not out of a sense of civic duty.
>>28156125
We came to them... we did some shit publicly so others noticed.
Same with Trump. If you actually tried looking at /pol/ for once before judging it you would see that some people organize events at their schools, go to rallies, or do other campaigning activities.
Before you say something like "that's just a few people," the exact same can be said for Chanology. How many people actually went to a protest versus how many people just shitposted on 4chan? A similar ratio I'm sure.
>And that is NOT the 4chan way - it isn't trolling at all. Just people who, mostly genuinely, are conservatives and like Trump.
It is exactly the 4chan way.
Consider Chanology: people were genuinely concerned about Scientology and did something about it, while also engaging it "trolling" type activities.
Next, consider Trump: people genuinely support the candidate while also engaging it trolling type activities such as chalking their schools (where they know they'll get a response).
Also, just an FYI, it is incredibly clear you aren't very knowledgeable about the American right, no Trump supporter would call themselves a "conservative." Save that shit for Cruz. Fact is, Trump becoming the Republican nomination will spell the death knell for "conservatives" and the Republican party as we know it. If burning a major political party to the ground isn't trolling I don't know what is.
>>28156225
Sounds like you only hear of pol and r9k because they garner the most irl attention. Visit some other boards and you'll see that's not the case. You make too many assumptions and generalizations
We still do, SJWs are racist authoritarians. I wish we'd hit storm/pol/ harder though.
>>28154435
It is edgy and controversial for young, especiy college aged, people to hold those views. Doing so publicly can lead to shaming, threatsz and harassment.
You're partially right on Trump. He is mainstream, but the same is true of every candidate running for a major party nomination. Some people on the fringes just see him as a means of mainstreaming their ideology. Sanders' supporters only see him as a means to project their socially acceptable messianic fantasies.
>>28154890
Bernie does get trashed by the media, and is not his party's leading candidate, unlike Trump. Trump supporters are unlikely to robbed or assaulted just for their viewpoints. Anyone with half a brain knows many of those supporters are already pissed off taxpayers, many of which carry firearms. Likely, almost everyone has views on things that many others would consider crazy and better off not said, including leftists.
You seem to think that 4chan is right wing, and I actually agree on that. I don't think 4chan has every truly been on the left, and there is no foreseeable change in that, especially as long as the modern PC/SJW culture continues to infect the left.
>>28156446
Sandersfag here, I see him as a means to make the economy work for non-richfags.
That doesn't take a messiah - it takes a politician who isn't bought or crooked, and is genuinely on the side of the proletariat. And those aren't the same thing, though any candidate who promises to make things better gets called a messiah by some people.
>>28156338
The current republican party needs to be destroyed and rebuilt into a proper right wing.
The phoenix rises from the ashes of the old order.
>>28156499
>The phoenix rises from the ashes of the old order.
Come back when you're 19 and can be of any realistic benefit to white nationalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4-RRhs9aM&bpctr=1444168821
>>28149894
>and the world will become united as a place with no borders, no nations, and no races
Sounds like one those sci-fi dystopias
>>28156609
it's only a dystopia if you're an intolerant bigot
everyone will be racemixed and there will be no arbitrary things like nations standing in the way
>>28152271
>being ironically in a car doesn't mean you are in one
>>28151894
>implying rich don't get massive benefit by the government allowing no one else to compete with them
At least mc Donald's doesn't leave burgers by my back and door against my will, then point guns at me if I refuse to pay, and also reprimand me if I own a gun myself.
>anonymoose thinks the real authoritarians are these oppressive right wing boogeymen but can't see that the ones actually in power are actually pushing leftist liberal degeneracy
>>28156609
Depends if it absolute control of one government or absolute dissolution of all government.
>>28157331
>absolute dissolution of all government
Not happening, globalization by a one world government is inevitable.
>>28157442
indigo pill detected
>>28157486
Well globalization is inevitable, and is the end goal of several major ideologies like socialism (no nations because proletariats) and libertarianism (no borders because they violate the non-aggression principle).
What matters is what kind of system we'll end up with.
>>28157763
>>28157442
>globalization is inevitable
Only if pessimists like you continue to lie down and take it
>>28146183
Back to
>>>/reddit/
you astounding faggot.
>>28146624
I was once a teenage communist faggot
>love the Communist Manifesto
>wear a Che T-shirt
>eventually learn that Pinochet did more for Chile than Che ever could for any nation.
>eventually give up on commie as you realize how fucking ass backward they are in regards to everything
>jump to today, a full graduate from college
>now more right wing than I have any right to be
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>>28146183
Of course, comrade! How could I forget our devotion to the international working class through dank memes?
I hate authoritarianism. I just think racism is not nearly as rampant as the American media makes it seem and honestly people need to get the fuck over it. Racists will always exist but now they are very few. Slavery happened hundreds of years ago and literally nobody knows what it was like to be a slave. Even civil rights from the 60s was 50 some years ago, nobody on the internet has experienced that level of racism. Also all the people claiming it still lives in the system are stupid and anyone who blames someone nowadays for that is a hypocrite. Every single person in existence is alive today because someone else suffered and died. If you blame one group for the actions of people from the past then you have to blame everyone or else you are deliberately ignoring the flaws in your beliefs.
>>28157865
During our lifetimes we'll likely only see globalism getting stronger
at one point it will collapse as people realize there are cultures incompatible with our own
>>28158445
>I hate authoritarianism. I just think racism is not nearly as rampant as the American media makes it seem and honestly people need to get the fuck over it.
Do you really think the left isn't authoritarian? that's what I'm getting from your post
and that's not accurate. both sides of the mainstream are authoritarians
>>28158538
No I think the left is Authoritarian as well.
Post child porn, thanks.
