If women select for height why are there still so many short men
because there's still womanlets
Money, wealth, poor nutrition.
My dad is a 6'4 chad but I'm a 5'10 manlet and by "little" brother is a 6'2 king of manlets. Maybe because of our childhood diets of sugary cereals and cheese itz.
>>28048485
Because short guys can be rich or powerful and get laid that way moron
>>28048616
>6'2
>manlet
Drink bleach.
>>28048485
Men fuck short women, who in turn have short boys. There will always be short men as long as women aren't held to the same height standards as men
>>28048485
because they don't just select for height
>>28048485
when that selection only excludes like 5% of the population in a generation (mostly for retardation and not height) and everybody carries at least some manlet genes, it's a slow process.
>>28048485
Short women and poverty still exists.
>tfw 5'2
>baby bro a whole foot taller
I ain't even mad
>>28049008
You must be female in which case you have nothing to be mad about and im not sure why you're even in this thread (or board for that matter)
>>28048616
>6'2 is now considered king of manlets
This is what's wrong with humanity. The standards are out of the fucking planet nowadays.
>>28048546
This, my dad is 6'2", mom is a 5'1" femlet, and I ended up 5'9".
>>28048546
THIS, a 4'9 woman will cause her sons to end up manlets.
>>28049703
lucky, to be honest mate
If you researched a little you would find out that short men are slowly but surely outbred.
>>28049065
>bullying someone for being a short beta
>on /r9k/
This should really be a bannable offense
>>28048485
>If women select for height why are there still so many short men
But I don't select men for their height. My boyfriend is like 5'9 or 5'10" and he's perfect height for me. I wouldn't mind if he was a bit shorter even, but I feel like it would suck because he helps me reach stuff that is high up. I'm only 5 ft. Any guys above 6 ft are way too tall for me and I know it's probably shallow but I have turned men down for being too tall for me. It just makes doing everything with them like kissing and sex and stuff too awkward, things you want to feel romantic and nice. I legitimately have no idea why some women like it like that, it completely confuses me. But I can tell you I know a lot of women who are short who also like men to be more around their height for the same reason, so there's hope.
>>28048485
KKKEEENNNDDDEEERRR KILL IT
>>28048485
The manlet looks like Latsbrah
dog doo = smelliiiiiii
>>28048485
Height isn't necessarily advantageous. Tall people usually suffer from various back, hip and knee problems.
Also, if you look at any special forces unit, they're full of "manlets", people who would go to town on on any taller person. Also see MMA, they're pretty average because height isn't advantageous when grappling in a no-rules fight, which is what you'll encounter in the wild as well.
Boxers are tall, but they follow a strict rule-set that emphasises reach, where reach is a natural by-product of height.
My thoughts.
>>28049931
don't give me hope, roastie
>>28049931
>But I don't select men for their height.
> know it's probably shallow but I have turned men down for being too tall for me.
>select men for their height.
Your retarded right or is this female double think in action?
>>28048485
Because womanlet genes create manlets
see pic related.
if you are tall guy with tiny woman, you have good chance of creating manlet
>>28048485
Because of the Regression to the Mean and the Founder Effect
Not to mention, a lot of height is nutrition and a lot of men in the West have exceeded their genetics through nutritional and hormonal excess.
Sumos are the same. They end up 6'1'' average despite Japanese genetics due to 6000-8000 calories a day.
>>28050358
This. Men who date short women are fucking assholes creating manlet children.
>>28050023
exquisite post; I laughed.
>>28048485
>My Ex-gf (met her over the internet)
>"I thought you wern't in to me"
>"you look a lot shorter on cam"
>"...so you wouldnt have been in to me if I wasnt this tall?"
>"Probably not"
True story.
And she was not the shallow type...
I mean, I'm a fat beta loser and their is nothing postive to say about me, but I will always remains 6"2.
>>28050495
It's better than a manlet dating a womanlet. At least with a taller guy there's still a chance.
With that said. Yeah, womanlets are mostly the problem.
>>28050125
She doesn't select men for their height, she turns them down for it :^)
>>28050462
Let me explain the regression to the mean. It is more likely for a 6'6'' man to be a 6' man genetically and have outgrown his genetic potential than to be a 7' man who was stunted and didn't reach his potential. That means that when he has a kid, their kid will have the genetics of a 6' man, and statistically speaking, most likely will not grow as tall as his father.
It happens for genius and looks too. Two ugly parents have a kid that isn't as ugly. Two beautiful parents have a kid that isn't as beautiful.
Einstein's descendents were progressivelu less intelligent than himself. He was a revolutionary thinker in the greatest realm of science. Then you have his son, Hans Albert Einstein. Hans Albert was a pretty brilliant scientist. He was a professor of hydraulic engineering at UC Berkeley and the world's foremost expert on sediment transport. That might not sound as impressive as his father's achievements, but that still makes him a pretty smart person.
Bernhard Einstein
Bernhard Einstein, Einstein's grandson, was a pretty smart guy. He became a physicist, worked in engineering for Texas Instruments and Litton Industries, and received half a dozen US patents in his life. That's pretty decent.
Bernhard's children were just doctors and lawyers and other conventionally successful people.
At least with regards to their scientific achievements, you could say that this is a good example of regression to the mean: from the greatest physicist in the world to the foremost expert in a relatively restricted scientific field to a pretty good engineer. That's what the Einstein lineage looks like.
This happens because traits like height, intelligence and looks are not 100% hereditary. Intelligence, if it is 70% hereditary, will yield this formula.
IQ=X + h^2((A+B)/2 -X)
where A and B are parents' IQ's, h is hereditary factor, and X is population mean.
Two parents with IQ 160 will have kids with IQs' averaging 130.
>>28050125
>Your retarded right
*you're
>>28050748
tl;dr
blolxolxolx
>>28050799
Get fucking educated you pleb.
The point here is that if height is 70.71% hereditary, a 6'10'' man and a 6'4'' woman will have kids averaging 6'4'' for men and 5'10'' for women.
>>28048546
Femlets always go for manmores. It's nature's way of balancing things so you don't get too many 6'8"+ freaks. Unfortunately, it creates frustrated manlets who will never know how it feels to be taller than their dad.
>>28048485
Because the taller men are going with shorter women you retart.
>>28048485
Nonwhite people are genetically inclined to shortness, and white people are only >5% of the global population.
idk maybe it also has something to do with the sometimes random nature of genes. recessive genes can surface again in grandchildren or whatever waaaay after they were first expressed and populations tend to regress towards the mean
>>28049008
>Bro is 5'11"
>Cousins are all above 6 feet
>I'm 5'3"
>>28050931
I'm sorry.
Commentarius originalitius
>>28050881
>Femlets always go for manmores.
The only girls that have been interested in me have been 5'2<. But that was in HS and I've always preferred girls my height (5'6). I was retarded for not knowing women always like their partner to be taller than them.
Still a 22KHV and regret turning down all the femlets that hit on me.I still prefer women who are about my height or taller
>>28050930
no, they are not.
>>28050462
>28050462
if you looked at whites in 1850 you'd think they were genetically predisposed to shortness
>>28050981
My sister is 5'1" and all 20 of her boyfriends were over 6' tall. I live in a very tall country, but still, not even one guy my height or shorter (5'11"). Not ONE.
>>28051028
feel free to tell me a single nonwhite country that has a higher average height than Britain or Denmark
>father is 6'4 scottish warrior
>mother is 5 ft fat woman
Apparently something is wrong with my legs, when I sit down I'm actually the same height as guys taller than me, but standing up I'm short again. I was always active when I was young so I've not a clue what happened.
>>28051028
Kill yourself, shitskin. Whites are the tallest people on earth. There's literally no point in arguing against this fact. Dinaric people (southern Slavs), Dutch and nordics are 5'11.5" to 6'1" tall on average.
>>28048616
Stop subtly trying to push the height standard
ATTENTION: IF YOU ARE 5'9" OR SHORTER, YOU ARE A MANLET
ANYTHING ELSE IS FALSE
>>28051122
t. 5'10" king of manlets
Nice try, manlet. 6' is the official manlet cutoff.
>>28051028
a nonwhite country doesn't occur on the list from tallest to shortest until like number 50 and it's Tonga
>>28051122
6'0 is the cutoff if you're white
stay mad negro
>>28051122
here's the non meme chart
I can't believe these meme geneticists in here holy shit
You aren't going to come out in between your parents height because of their disparity like it averages the genes out
Genes are expressed fully and if you came out mid tier it's because one those two had a recessive mid tier gene
>>28051116
>>28051079
OKAY
The Masaai people and most other Nilotic people are taller than both the Dutch and Nords without good nutrition.
Their women are 5'11'' average and their men 6'4''
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GRAPH I POSTED, in 1850, when industrialization was just beginning for whites, Denmark had an average male height of 5'5.08,'' Netherlands 5'4.92'' and England 5'5.19.''
I could also plot out the historical progressions of height for each country, but that'd take too long and you wouldn't listen anyways, troglodytes. I even tried to explain the regression to the mean but you didn't listen.
>>28051158
Yes whites are generally the tallest right now but it's not genetics. That was my point, if you know how to read you snow nigger. Whites were 5.4''-5'6'' when they were poor like everyone else.
And where is the list of tallest to shortest people?
Genetically speaking, North Koreans and South Koreans are identical, but the average South Korean male at age 18-25 is 175 cm but the average North Korean male at that age is 165.4 cm.
>>28051220
You're a meme geneticist yourself
>>28051240
when Dane's averaged 5'5 everyone else averaged 5'0
you're retarded if you think all humans have the same potential for height and the only controlling factor is nutrition. Japan doesn't have a starvation problem. South Korea doesn't have a starvation problem. Latin America doesn't have a starvation problem. yet white countries are taller on average than all of these.
why?
>>28051240
Small irrelevant nigger subhuman shitskin ape tribes don't count, negro. Get aids and die, nog.
>>28051240
>muh meme niggers from Apefrica
>sample size: 10
Pathetic.
>tfw 5'10"
No complaints, my dad is 5'7" and my mom is 5'1". Could have been way worse for my sister and I
5'5 manlet, gf is 5'8 I ain't even mad. She's also pretty damn submissive which I love because I'm a borderline sadist.
>>28051347
Isn't that the average height in the US?
>>28051277
Most of Latin America does have a starvation problem and the average Caloric, protein and calcium intake of Korea and Japan are 40-60% lower than that of Western countries. And Koreans are taller than Southern Europeans (not Greeks).
When Dane's averaged 5'5'' Plains and East Coast Native Indians averaged 5'9''-6', Taiwanese aboriginals averaged that range, Koreans averaged 5'4,'' Japs 5'3'' and SE Asians, as you can see, a little above 160 cm or 5'3.''
What exists is Bergman's rule. The higher the latitude, the larger the body.
>>28051313
Sample size 10 million
The issue here is that you are emotionally attached to what's being researched and debated. Totally unscientific.
>>28051347
>tfw when 5'3 dad and 5'5 mom
why do these people BREED REEE
>>28051369
irrelevant. no man respects an "average" guy and no woman wants an "average" guy
>>28051168
>5'11 - 6'0 perfect height
is this chart made for fitfags miring each other because the shorter you are the easier it is for you to look jacked? the female ideal has been consistently studied to be 6'2 - 6'3
>>28051277
The average Samoan is 5,11
The average Korean male is now 5ft 9
In Beijing China the average is about 5 9
>>28051369
I live in Canada which is around the same if not shorter, I'm just saying that I must be the exception since no men in my family have been above 5'7".
I'm also white
>>28051381
I've never had a problem with my height, then again I'm only turning 19.
although the 6ft meme is a thing, the type of women that explicitly demand it usually are not that great looking themselves. most girls have told me that their cutoff is 5'10".
Again this is completely anecdotal, I'm sure it varies regionally
>>28051277
starvation isn't the same as malnutrition. many places in every country you listed still have problems with malnutrition, which brings their mean down. they technically aren't starving, sure, but they have absolute shit food nutrition.
>>28051408
Samoans are also fucking wide. Their BMI threshold for BMI is even higher than Western Africans. A moderately obese white would be a healthy Samoan.
>>28051388
The ideal height is 1-2 SD above the average. Japanese women say the ideal man is 5'9''-6'1'' because the average height of men there is 5'7.'' American white women say the ideal height is 6'-6'4'' because the average height is 5'10''
2.5'' above the average is the most "accessible" height.
>>28051448
I find it hilarious that people are obsessed with 6 feet. 6 feet is 2/3 SD above the average. No one brags about a 110 IQ, which is the exact same rarity.
>>28051378
>the higher the latitude, the larger the body
Wrong. Inuit people are on a latitude higher than France and they're shorter than all white people; same for Manchus, Mongols, or any Altaic people. The average height in South Korea is 173.5 cm. The shortest average height in any white country is 173.9 cm (Portugal).
Why would you tell lies when you've already been proven wrong?
>>28051408
>the average Korean is 5'9
Wrong. Pic related.
>in one city the height is larger
Try to come up with an argument without manipulating sample sizes.
>>28051449
So your argument is that literally every single white country has good nutrition while every single nonwhite country has malnutrition?
If not, then why isn't a single nonwhite country taller on average than a single white country?
retards
>>28051474
>6'2''-6'4''
>too tall
That chart is dumb.
>>28051474
This. 5'10" seems like it's short, but that's just because of how terribly common it is. 1/3 of men will be taller, 1/3 will be shorter, and 1/3 will share your height.
>>28051495
it's simply the change in threshold with the outdated imperial system. if you go to europe, being 180cm (~5'11") has the same effect
Is the Mexican average lower than the Japanese average?
Mexicans are pretty short.
>>28051535
>tfw my mexican bros are generally 6'1"
but yes they're generally shorter
>>28051535
they're the same. 5'7 1/2.
there's lots of white Hispanics in Mexico so their average is bumped a little tho. Japanese probably outrank pure native Mexicans in the jungles or whatever
>>28051496
Your arguments are terrible and you're strawmanning first of all. 2nd of all, your only source is wikipedia. Second, you're not looking at height as a transgenerational trend effected by epigenetics and environment, not just genetics.
You HAVE been proven wrong. The Masaai has women that are literally taller than most white men.
Not to mention, we haven't even mapped the genes for height, so you have no way of proving that the difference is genetic. From evidence based on historical PATTERNS and studies where whites have been shorter than Natives and aborginals all around the world, I made my conclusion.
Also, you're arguing with multiple people.
>>28051511
6'2''-6'4'' might be more ideal, but it's less accessible.
>>28051558
Average Mexican is 5'4.5''
You'll notice that Mexicans who grew up in America are taller, at 5'7.5'' same as Japan
>>28051584
third*
>>28051496
oh fuckin wow you got me. They're only 5ft 8.9in my bad
Literally no shorter than France and you think you've proven something? Outside of a few small nordic countries whites aren't gtfo tall
>>28051584
It's been proven that the max attainable average height of white people is higher than the max attainable height of nonwhite people because there are several nonwhite countries on the planet that are equal to white countries in terms of nutrition and yet are incapable of reaching the same average heights because their genetics don't allow for it.
this is 4th grade stuff Chang. I thought Chinese were supposed to be good at school
To the anons arguing ITT, how tall are you?
>>28051631
Not one of the butthurt guys but I'm 5'10" and posted these
>>28051347
>>28051448
>>28051534
>>28051608
More than a tenth of France's population is Arabs and they're still a full centimeter taller. Stay mad.
>>28051619
>It's been proven that the max attainable average height of white people is higher than the max attainable height of nonwhite people because there are several nonwhite countries on the planet that are equal to white countries in terms of nutrition and yet are incapable of reaching the same average heights because their genetics don't allow for it.
No it isn't
Just look at niggers in white countries. Niggers in America are taller than whites in France/Portugal/even Germany if I'm not mistaken. Keep in mind about 50% of blacks are tobacco users so we haven't even seen their full potential
>>28051619
IT HASN"T BEEN PROVEN
BGI hasn't even sequenced the genomics of height.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAXIMUM ATTAINABLE HEIGHT OF NONWHITE AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE.
>There are several nonwhite countries on the planet that are equal to white countries in terms of nutrition and yet are incapable of reaching the same average heights because their genetics don't allow for it
Prove it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake
It's 4th grade stuff Johnny boy.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/04/05/the-height-gap
https://books.google.com/books?ei=CrgWTaHjB4r0vwOxrtH5DQ&ct=result&id=Mk5wAAAAMAAJ&dq=formosan+encounter&q=head+neck&hl=en#search_anchor
https://books.google.com/books?ei=CrgWTaHjB4r0vwOxrtH5DQ&ct=result&id=Mk5wAAAAMAAJ&dq=formosan+encounter&q=semi-giants#search_anchor
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/04/05/the-height-gap (control f to pygmies)
>>28051631
I'm 182 cm king of manlets
>>28051717
Niggers in America are also heavily intermixed with America's 75% Germano-British population; two of the tallest groups on Earth, and were selectively bred for strength and size over the course of centuries.
>>28051619
Lmao, Nordic men are as tall as Masaai women.
I guess you have to agree that whites will never be as smart as Jews or Asians
>>28051744
Yes we do. Humans in first world countries eat as well as is physically possible and our average heights are therefore controlled by only one factor; genetics.
>>28051767
No. Not really. If you look at my link, Japan eats 1000 less calories on average a day than Austria.
>being this facile
>using such simplistic models
I'm done here. BTFO.
>>28051766
Nordic people are a sample size 300x larger than a single tribe of Africans buddy.
It's also already been proven that whites are responsible for almost all discoveries and innovations on Earth. If that doesn't signal enhanced intelligence, I don't know what does.
>>28051792
Japanese in America are shorter than Europeans in America.
>>28051767
>implying everyone eats the same because they live in a first world countries
>implying epigenetics isn't a thing
>Implying you even know how genetics works
>Implying there's no transgenerational stunting
>Implying that looking at modern day heights says anything about genetics when 1. we haven't sequenced even 10% of the genes for height and 2. national heights vary so wildly century to century
>>28051813
>people in South Korea and Japan have all the nutrition needed to reach their full genetic potential
>their genetic potential is observably lower than that of European people
Sorry if this makes you mad or hurts your feelings but I'm a scientist and the facts come first always.
>>28051748
>Niggers in America are also heavily intermixed
Being 15% white is not "heavily intermixed" It's slightly above Jamaicans.
>75% Germano-British population
Niggers are taller than Germans in Germany. A German citizen well have much better nutrition than pretty much any nigger you can drag out of da trap
>>28051808
>Using a source that cites theological "innovations"
>If a European and Chinese mathematician disocovers the Pythagorean theorem at the same time, European historians will credit the European mathematician and the Chinese historian his counterpart
>Using one page out of an obsolete textbook which uses citations in other textbooks as a metric of "human accomplishment"
Face it. Even on Bloomgberg, Wallstreet and IPI, Asians were acknowledged as the most innovative people. Look at the top 100 inventors today, only 4 are Europeans and 2 are immigrants.
Look at innovation. The most innovative Europeans are 4x less innovative per capita gdp than Koreans. Japan alone gets more patent grants and innovation than all of Europe combined.
>>28051848
How do you "observe genetic potential"
and no, they DON'T have the same nutrition. Are you that daft? They have different diets using different foods with different ingredients and different average intake of calcium, calories and protein. Are you really this daft?
>>28051848
>genetic potential is observably lower
You do realize that the tallest nation on Earth, Netherlands, literally had adult males 5'3'' tall in 1820 right?
That's the same as Southeast Asia. In 200 years, Indonesians might be 6'2'' average. So you don't know what their genetic potential is. You don't even know how genomics works.
>>28051871
>niggers are taller than Germans
Why tell lies on the internet?
>>28051884
That chart was authored by one of the co-discoverers of the structure of DNA. I'm sure you know better about genetics than him though.
>>28051884
Japanese people in America eat the same as every other American and they're shorter than European Americans.
Once again, the facts > your fragile emotions
>>28051907
They don't eat the same as other Americans. They're mostly 2nd generationals that eat Japanese food at home and American food only at the cafeteria. Not to mention, intake is different and there are no studies that say that they do eat the same.
Once again, you have no facts.
Niggers ARE taller than Germans. Masaii, retard.
Facts>your fragile emotions
>>28051907
>that chart
>having anything to do with genetics
>thinking there's any logical connection
>>28050125
Physical intimacy in general is just logistically easier when both parties are similar heights.
because all men are secretly pedos and tall women are generally insecure about it
>>28051056
> 20 of her boyfriends
Is your sister by any chance batshit insane? Because from my experience only crazy people have that many failed relationships.
>>28050495
But the sex brah
>>28048485
Because contrary to the meme, manlets still get laid.
I agree that it's more difficult for them yes, but they can supply their height with money, status and personality.
>>28048485
Evolution is a slow and imperfect/flawed process. Our suffering must extend, and so must we embrace pain and burn as fuel for our journey, for now matter how fast or how far we run, we will never be to escape the pain. Only the deceased know rest from this malice.
>>28048485
because men don't select for height in women
AND
short men still reproduce too it's not like 0% of them do
>>28052977
>money
>status
>personality
just the three hardest things to achive in life.
you cant change your personality from a day to the other as this depends on the way you were raised.
even if you are rich, nice and shit, girls would still follow the law of nature to pick taller guys.
>>28049624
I'm 6'2" get called tall all the time. That anon is nonsense
>>28048485
because short women mate and create short men, but atleast the short men are somewhat taller than their short mothers.
did you not have fucking science in high school?
Manlets of r9k, whats it like to be able to sit on any adult sized chair and have your feet not be able to touch the ground?
>>28053814
>even if you are rich, nice and shit, girls would still follow the law of nature to pick taller guys
Not really, eight isn't all, it's important, I won't deny that, but you guys talk like all short guys end killing themselves because of loneliness when it isn't like that at all.
If you have other things to supply your lack of height, you shouldn't have much problem.
>>28053946
I like when my feet don't touch the ground so I can swing them
>>28053918
They call you tall without the mean to put you down. Being called short offtenly means you are not indicaded for her.
im just saying from my observations though, grils whould still prefer you over a manlet, that one im 100% sure its true
mostly femlets and occassional bad luck. i was walking to class and this girl that was like 5'0-5'1 was talking to another girl and as i got closer all i heard was the taller girl ask "how tall is your bf?!?!!" then the femlet said "hes like 6'0" and then the other girl just said "WOWWWW" and she said something about having to look up a lot. just thought in my head about how her son is gonna be fucked. wasnt in a good mood to begin with but that made me even more mad for some reason.
also bad luck like what happened to me. my mom wasnt even a femlet, she is 5'10 and my dad is 6'0 and his dad was even taller at 6'4. all my uncles are 5'11-6'1 and my moms dad is like 5'11. somehow i managed to end up 5'7. i actually have had a few chances to get a gf or have sex though but i have rejected all of them.
>>28048485
The average height is the most evolutionarily beneficial. Height/size has advantages but also disadvantages. Can't remember what exactly but bone problems are more likely. Probably earlier average death as well. Smaller people also do better in times where there is less food, which has historically been pretty common and likely will be again in the future.
>>28051378
>Totally unscientific.
Science is an irrelevant ideology.
