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This is a thread for fellow INTPs to share and discuss ideas, feelings, or just general thoughts with other INTPs. If you are not an INTP please do not post in this thread. You are free to start a thread for your own personality type, although in all honesty it will most likely pale in comparison to ours.
INTP PERSONALITY
>https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality
>The INTP personality type is fairly rare, making up only three percent of the population, which is definitely a good thing for them, as there's nothing they'd be more unhappy about than being "common". INTPs pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor, INTPs have been responsible for many scientific discoveries throughout history. [...]
OTHER LINKS
>take the test
https://www.16personalities.com/
>examples of famous INTPs
http://www.celebritytypes.com/intp.php
who intp and shut in from social anxiety here?
LIBRA MASTER RACE
ALL NON-LIBRA INTP'S ARE SILLY NECKBEARD AUTIST KEKBOY FUCKBOYS
GET ON MY LEVEL, OH WAIT YOU CAN'T
>ONE CHANCE AT LIFE
>BORN A VIRGO
REMINDER TO CHECK YOUR ASTROLOGY, SHITLORDS. THE STARS NEVER LIE or something
>>27959096
fake intp detected
>>27959085
here
Although it will all be alright once we hit information singularity at the verge of the next big crunch happening due to zero point energy hitting maximum levels due to all other particles being extinct at that point
Now the only problem here is how we survive that long without influencing said crunch. creating Limbo universe's is not the final solution although it gives us more time to compute the equation which creates said zero point particles, for finding a way outside of this one into the (first) upper level of existence.
>>27959085
True INTP's are shut in's because people do not interest them
>want to write a story
>keep rewriting it and adding in details but never continuing from where i left off
>write and play music since teens
>interested in a lot of different styles
>can't stick to one thing long enough to git gud
>metal, electronic music, classical guitar, acoustic blues
>total edgelord so I collaborate with anyone
>delete literally hours and hours of compositions from self-doubt
>sort of lost interest at this point
Is taking as much information as you can on a subject you have to present in class a INTP trait ?
>>27959855
*can't collaborate with anyone
>male horoscopes
Is there a more pitiful personality type then ESFJ?
Just look at the section on famous ESFJS
Im a virgo and an INTP
Feels good
>>27959976
same. Feels terrible.
I'm ENTP, can i join?
I was recently diagnosed with INTP and interested in arts. Am I autistic?
>>27960104
>diagnosed with INTP
>Am I autistic
your post is
>intp
>feelings
>>27959085
Right here bruv, I never go out because I just hate everyone and artsy shit is the only alternative to sports
>>27959976
Oh Jesus, me too.
>>27959999
Fucking checked, gr8 digits famalam
>>27959055
I don't really find myself as a shut in but instead I'll analyze someone until I decide I'd like to have them in my life. There's this girl at work who I'm on the fence about. I can't tell if she's fucking with me or is actually a nice person for her own enjoyment. I think I'll have her figured out in the next couple of days and whether or not I should pursue an actual relationship with her.
I have taken the test a couple times and every time i got INTP-A.
I have a lot of traits that are not INTP like at all, more like ENTJ or ESTJ.
Bretty gonfused actually.
>>27960459
Iv'e gotten INTP-T about 3 times now.
Is paranoia common with the INTP personality?
I'm a quite a paranoid person myself and just wanted to see.
>>27959268
not anyone giving enough of a shit to these thoughts before we upgrade ourselves? ok then... Guess I'll have to wait further;_;
>>27960629
INTP and fairly paranoid too. Should wait to hear from others though.
>>27960927
>>27960629
INTP-T after second test here, paranoid to the degree of thinking every person I speak with is linked to my parents leading a global PsyOp against me. Sometimes lead up until the thought that the whole universe was created as a test just for my own will. I guess that all just comes with the fact that I'm overthinking absolutely everything to a highly psychic degree, but it's not keeping me from important things as I can multitask and have 20 hours a day to spend on thinking about life in general since 22 years now
Is INTP the most autistic personality?
>be INTP me
>spent all my childhood-teenage years doing almost nothing but gaming, watching anime and being on the internet
>get completely obsessed with specific topics for a month period or so, learning everything about it before moving on
>daydream constantly, used to play out intricate fantasies in my mind during school as a kid and got in trouble for never paying attention
Sounds like aspergers or something, but when I got tested as a kid they said there was nothing wrong with me. Idk man
>get completely obsessed with
>>27961444
Fuck, added an extra line. See what I mean? Autism
>>27959055
look at this anime girl? isnt she cute?
>>27961469
>>27961444
Yeah me too.
Hyperbolically original
>>27961503
No. You have shit taste if you think she is cute.
Now THIS anime girl is cute.
Funny how the description of INTP goes against believing in unscientific bullshit like the MBTI.
You're all special snowflakes, but not in the way you think.
INTP is an ANIME FREE personality type. Weebs, fucking keep retaking the test until you get your actual type. Now gtfo this thread
>>27959096
>INTP
>caring about horoscopes
pick one
Astrology is not real. Only women believe in it
>>27961444
>Is INTP the most autistic personality?
No, we're socially autistic but overall better than most other personality types
>>27959855
Fuck. I just started practicing guitar again after losing interest for a couple years due to depression/anxiety. I'm 18 now and hoping to continue playing and writing music into the future as a hobby/potential profession, as unrealistic as that may be.
>>27960104
Short answer: no
Long answer: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about so maybe
>>27959055
INTP here
Here's my stats from the last personality thread.
>>27959085
yes
>>27959096
I am a Libra, but horoscopes are BS
>>27959085
yep
>>27959764
>>27959855
That's me
>>27960629
I am a bit paranoid too. As a child I suspected the whole school system was some kind of trick they played on me. It seemed so pointless.
>>27962597
Augustus Caesar created an empire on the advice of astrology.
>>27959096
only an idiot would give horoscopes any credence. non-intp detected.
>>27962754
Where is that enpire now? Thousands of empires have been built on religions why would paganism be any different
>>27959085
>INTP
>no social anxiety because I don't care about anything
>>27960104
>diagnosed with
you took a test on a website, famalam. you weren't diagnosed with anything.
How many people here have actually had a psychological evaluation stating they were INTP? (more than just what a website said)
Sup fuckers. I'm going away to uni in the fall, looking forward to shutting myself into another room that's just a little bit smaller.
>>27962796
Field of study?
>>27962773
Rome -> ERE and WRE -> ERE and HRE -> Papacy and the West
It controls 60% of the worldwide population
>>27962818
Undecided as of now, but leaning towards biology, specifically marine bio. Who knows though, my interests change every few months.
>>27961983
this. if you set any stock in what a self-administered test on a website tells you then you are no better than someone who believes in other pseudoscience like horoscopes or psychology or even biology
>>27962792
me
cost me about 250$
not the same questions, had some "situational experience"
same result as a website
same explanations
don't pay for tests guys
>>27959855
>>27962669
INTP band when? I've been playing for a few years now and I always have the most drive to play and create when I'm depressed.
>>27962871
you replied to the wrong guy. i think you meant this for >>27962794
>>27962794
>>27962871
sorry, wrong person
>>27962794
When I was 17 I did a lot of testing, the psychologist didn't believe in MBTI though
>>27962840
>Rome is still a super power they just work in the shadows
I normally don't buy in these "personality tests", but I took it 4 times over the course of 5 years and it got me the same result every time.
What do I do now?
>>27962960
Invest in snake oil
>>27962960
There's only one thing you can do.
>>27963008
Ok. what now?
All you guys saying you are INTP and at the same time talking about being depressed and feels.
Newsflash you arent INTP. Get out.
>>27959976
same fammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmfxdvccvczxczxczxczxczxcxz
>>27962948
>the psychologist didn't believe in MBTI though
Yeah that's a shame, the test may be flawed and potentially not able to correctly identify someones persona but it is a great frame of reference.
>>27962949
You have to admit that there are some similarities. Even the US used Roman Law that the child inherits the status of the mother to keep children enslaved!
>>27962960
Whered you take this particular test
>>27959055
Anyone else noticed that in long term, you cant keep the facade of having a hobby, interests and generally a personality as an intp ? Im interested in everything and nothing at the same time.
I just looked outside for the first time today and saw an old white guy pushing a little half-nigger toddler in her toy car, and I bust out laughing. She had a nappy weave that stuck out far and evenly on every side of her head. The man looked in my direction but luckily I was behind a security screen. I hope for his sake it isn't his daughter's. Thanks for reading my blogpost, I'm going back to watching Star Trek
>>27963162
The us use so many roman symbols and phrases its almost convincing. Also the us uses the one tactic that really made the roman empire superb, which is conquering through culture.
so apparently I'm an Intp and what does that mean
>>27963076
Also these fucking retarded people posting about rome and whether horoscopes are legit or not are NOT intp.
>>27963270
means youre a sperg
>>27963282
So... You are telling me rome wasnt legit ?
>>27963282
>muh in-tip sekrit club!
>>27963316
Muh nobodies speshul circlejerk!
>>27963316
>im not in the secret club
>have to point it out
>>27963175
16personalities.
It's just the email they send you
>>27963348
>>27963349
If I want to Romepost, I'll Romepost.
>>27962884
>INTP band
literal recipe for failure
>>27963375
Whats the strategy category for
![[Yellow-Flash]_Gungrave_-_06_[720p][0E1FD46F].mkv_snapshot_12.20_[2014.07.14_20.16.50].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QWv3bXy.jpg "[Yellow-Flash] Gungrave - 06 [720p][0E1FD46F].mkv snapshot 12.20 [2014.07.14 20.16.50]")
>>27961983
>>27962870
>sensers mad because they got some bullshit type that wasnt le epic intj
>>27962884
What music you like senpai? Lately I've been really into Jim Morrison and Father John Misty. If I ever became a musician, those are the styles I would try to imitate.
>>27963270
>it means your evaluation was incorrect
a true INTP would have researched the MBTI test to gain an understanding of its meaning and application.
>>27963393
> Posts American flag
Regardless, has anybody else here had people comment on looking depressed in school? (e.g. look like you're always crying regardless of your emotions or time of day)
true robots are ISTP
get out INTP normies
I honestly think that at some point of humanitys course, all feelers will be gone. Its a thing of the past, desperately struggling to survive through rules and conservatism. But it will end eventually. Has nothing to do with politics, not with personality, but with evolution.
>>27963485
high/depressed
>>27963485
The flag is the point. It's juxtapositioned to the Grecoroman architecture.
>>27963503
We're the minority though familia :^)
>>27959055
I sort of stopped developing theories about the world because I feel like the only thing left is to learn other peoples' ideas who are more accomplished than I am but I feel like I have already simulated most of every idea imaginable so I have reached the logical conclusion knowing I'm going to die and knowing I don't have the resources to really do anything extremely worthwhile, and that conclusion is to try and make as much money as possible in as short a time as possible so that I can enjoy life without worrying. As most of my problems come from lack of money to do shit, this is what my life is about. And I don't feel bad about it, and I don't feel bad that I don't feel bad. Making money is all that is left in this modern world. I have a permanent case of oneitis that has never gone away but they are with someone else and I don't talk to them anymore and I don't really care much about getting laid, making friends, I'm not depressed, I just don't have money. This is the current meaning of my life. I also want to live in Tokyo because it is has its priorites correct. Technology, money, cleanliness. I want to travel, and I want to win my oneitis, but what I need before anything is money
I did this test and it said ENTP.
What does it mean?
>>27963485
Totally. Either depressed or high. They also always comment on staring into the distance- well my eyes have to go somewhere while thinking.
Also anybody else noticed how non-INTPs interpret really really weird stuff into our behaviours that had nothing to do with what we were actually thinking about ?
>>27962749
I watched a doc once about Syd Barrett, first singer of Pink Floyd, anyway the narrator goes "He used to just lie on a dirty mattress and stare into space, thinking that if he did one thing, then that would exclude him from doing another thing so he ended up doing nothing." That's how I feel about being INTP
>>27959855
holy shit this too though, aside from money, I love making music but I have no idea how anyone finds their own sound, I just sit there trying different things for hours and I've been doing this for over half a decade and I still don't have the sounds I want
>>27959055
I was missing this threads, fellow INTP here. Do you guys think there is any correlation between MBTI and Astrology? I'm quite into both, and here I can get the opinions of like minded poeple.
INTP reporting in.
Anyone else hyper-analytical and specific about their tastes in vidya and music? I feel like I refine my tastes more and more every year to the point where it's becoming incredibly difficult to find new things that meet my expectations/requirements.
>>27959085
Kinda. Had 4 normie roommates last semester, and I couldn't even use our kitchenette since they just sit on the couch five feet away and play CoD all day. I'd hardly ever talk to them, and they had girls over a few times and they probably saw me getting food and thought I was autismo.
I do have a decent amount of friends though, but we're all outsiders who are permanently stuck with each other because we're all INxx and terrible at meeting new people
>>27963590
Yep. Used to have massive social anxiety related to that but I've just kind of accepted it now.
>>27963554
This is exactly what i am going to do.
Fascinating how we both had the same thought process. I guess there are more of us out there than we might think.
How many of you experience ASMR? I have a lot of hypotheses about it.
>>27963703
Had it a lot as a child. Now im kinda desensitized to it.
>Tell my friends how I see and correlate colors to numbers
>They call me crazy and a retard
but muh special snowflake ability
>>27963647
I think :
Astrology is complete bullshit.
MBTI tests are not completely accurate, but they do somewhat capture your personality.
>>27963745
No intp would do that.
>>27963650
Totally. Things I used to love, I now hate. Now that I like such a small amount of things, I just do that thing (e. watch one youtube channel) and quickly burn myself out on it. Then the cycle continues.
4chan is my newest interest. inb4 newfag
>>27963647
I don't believe astrology. I'm on the border of Aries and Pisces, and they're both really accurate for me (moreso Pisces), but then again, people are incredibly situational/adaptive, and almost any sign can apply to me.
INTPs, What is your favorite film?
>>27963703
I don't really get the tingles anymore (unless I'm listening to 3D audio - whispers against the back of my neck do it for me), but I do get a really serene and "euphoric" feeling when I'm getting personal attention during a physical checkup.
>>27963778
>Astrology is complete bullshit
I used to think just like that, until a few months ago
>be me
>hanging out with friends
>one friend brought chick he was dating
>we are all chatting until somehow the topic changes to astrology
>friend's girl been silent until now
>she suddenly takes a guess at everyone's zodiac sign
>mfw she was right in all cases
>>27963590
Quite a lot actually, but if you look more into their judgements/thoughts it really only reflects themselves and what they believe you're thinking based off of what they are.
Though this might not count, there was one incident at a workplace where somebody walked in on me reloading a Staple gun in my trailer and genuinely thought it was a real gun (don't ask me how, those things don't even look remotely alike) and that the worksite was in legitimate danger.
Turns out nobody even knew I was working there..
>>27963778
>true INTP way of thinking
Robots, get in here >>27963826
>>27963871
Hard for me to pick a single favorite anything, but my tops include apocalypse now, American psycho, Donnie darko and blade runner.
>>27963629
>no idea how anyone finds there own sound
Wouldn't even know how to begin. Once I flunked out of school so I could work on my "album", used to put 12 hour days in only for a friend of mine to say "that sounds exactly like X"... I hadn't even noticed I was copying someone else completely.
>>27963745
Care to elaborate? This can be INTP but also far more common in other personality types
>>27963967
It's so hard to come up with completely original ideas, and that irritates the fuck out of me.
>>27963871
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist
I don't watch a lot of movies though. I honestly likeHarry Potterand thought God Bless America was pretty good. I generally like satires/spoofs as well. I don't like movies that take themselves too seriously. In that regard, American Psycho is great too.
>>27961503
Yes she is
Commento origionali
>>27963981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapheme-color_synesthesia
I guess this is the term to use, came across it after a quick google search.
>>27963781
Why not? I'm not the most social person but I can hold conversations with some close friends.
>>27964070
Synesthesia has nothing to do with intp
>>27963650
>I feel like I refine my tastes more and more every year to the point where it's becoming incredibly difficult to find new things that meet my expectations/requirem
yeah, totally. My music taste has become so specific that I have no idea how to explain the kind of music I'm into anymore, and whereas in my teens I used to listen to albums only, now there are only certain tracks that I view as the pinnacle of my personal view of "best" that I have to make playlists but once I've listened to the playlists enough I run out of stuff and I can't find any good shit anymore. It's all really textural and complex electronic stuff that doesn't sacrifice beautiful melodies for boring theory exercises or "wonky" silliness, it's all mostly electronic or shoegaze or garage but those tags don't even really apply anymore to a lot of it, and it's all very new shit. I find older music pointless personally, since it obviously wasn't able to take advantage of modern technology
>>27963888
What a coincidence.
I don't see how the formation of stars have anything to do with my personality.
To be honest, blood types seem more likely than Astrology.
>>27964070
You might associate colors with numbers, but its just an error in your brain.
>>27963871
Nightcrawler.
It's the perfect example of an outcast that has very little to go on becoming a very powerful and influential leader.
Hell, if I ever had a role-model it would be him. There's just so many positive traits that he has (e.g. confidence, willpower, intellect, forward thinking) that most people overlook because he has "crazy eyes." [sic]
>>27964136
Many INTPs get overlooked because of crazy eyes. Really goes to show how linear and stupid most people think. Judging someone by how his eyes look... No words.
ITT: fags who pretend they are special snowflakes
>>27964009
>completely original ideas
I don't think, at this stage of music history, that it can be done. A good quote goes "mediocre artists borrow, great artists steal". It's a transformative process imo. I would start with multiple influences (bonus points if they are different from one another) and filter it through your specific sensibilities I guess. My problem is that i fixate on a specific artist or sound and trap myself in a little box
In the past month two girls have killed themselves at my school. Everyone is saying how tragic it is and how they feel sorry for these girls and their families but all I'm thinking is "fucking idiots"
>>27964097
>I have no idea how to explain the kind of music I'm into anymore, and whereas in my teens I used to listen to albums only, now there are only certain tracks that I view as the pinnacle of my personal view of "best" that I have to make playlists but once I've listened to the playlists enough I run out of stuff and I can't find any good shit anymore
Fuck man, same. I've just been picking and choosing and compiling everything into one playlist, but as soon as I get sick of the playlist, I'm fucked until I find more songs that up to my ever-slimming hopes.
For me, it's mostly shoegaze/dream pop/psych pop/progressive rock/math rock, and some metal and jazz here and there.
Is yours on Spotify? I'll share mine ITT if anyone wants to check out my top songs right now. A lot of major seventh chords and intelligent chord changes.
>>27964136
You didn't understand an utterly pleb movie. Congrats I guess.
>>27964202
dude, it's /r9k/ after all
>>27964207
Kek, I'm the same way. I feel like that's all of 4chan though. We're all just desensitized fucks who can joke about tragedies moments after they happen.
>>27964202
If we think we're special why are we posting in a thread where we find commonalities? Bait or retarded, I don't care.
>>27964266
An intp isnt desensitized though, its just that logic goes against any mourning after (now) inanimate atoms.
>>27963223
This exactly. US culture is everywhere. They dont even have to fight people to get them to submit to them and assimilate, people do it by free will because its "cool and modern".
>>27964329
This links to our depression as well. After all, we'll be inanimate atoms in a very very short amount of time. We'll be forgotten just as quickly.
>>27963871
Inception1321
>>27964373
Why are you depressed by that ? Think beyond. You dont influence anything in that short time anyway, the universe just happens while you perceive it.
>>27964212
>major seventh chords
muh nigga
but yeah no spotify, I actually mostly use the zune player because I like the way it looks even though I don't have a zune anymore and microsoft stopped supporting it
here is some stuff tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcNG-zMlB8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJSzU2-iDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cKU0Eb1K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Eh-_3yX6sY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajAx0HBFU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qlLlsEyFM
>>27964070
Synesthesia is fairly common, sorry to tell you. But it is pretty rare that people successful integrate it into something productive. In the past it has been used to create more efficient learning templates, memory and even aid in mathematics.
It is believed that the majority of the population is affected by color in a similar way although they are unaware of it (suggested by research where patients with synesthesia arranged letters words and number according to the colors they perceived them as and those without the condition were able to better memorize afterwards when arranged with the corresponding colors applied)Sadly there is little research on the topic
Most understanding relating to the condition has been tested on animals
>>27964407
And then logic can counterract our logic! Now that's a good way to think. Any books or relativity theories you read to come to this conclusion? I love a good read :)
>>27964329
That, but also the fact that they didn't even make an attempt to make it look like an accident, so now that only adds to the families grief because they're left wondering how they could've helped, instead of it just being an act of god. I contemplate suicide on a regular basis, however I realize how irrational my thoughts are and how they will effect others. Also I'm still young. If I still am not satisfied with life by the time I'm 40 then I'd probably end it.
>>27964452
Only used my mind.
Would love to give you some, have been searching as well.
>>27964433
I don't listen to much electronic, but at least you listen to the good kind. I like it. Interesting textures.
https://open.spotify.com/user/1260044053/playlist/056ZDRGRxULIjvq6GhQqSy
There's a Spotify playlist of some good INTP hipster rock if anyone's looking for new hot jams
>>27964530
Hit me brobot!
Why do introverted people always assume they have an above average intelligence?
Here's a comic you guys will probably enjoy
>>27964631
We don't. Why do you make grand assumptions about ~50% of people? Not every introvert is a 4channer...
>>27964631
They tend to think of things more intellectually and are less likely to agree with someone at face value even when they are incorrect.
INTP reporting in here
just started to wonder
Do you guys think the personality type derived from MBTI is inherent and consistent or a result of our upbringing/influences(therefore subject to change as time progresses?)
>>27964685
The latter. You can obviously change yourself over time.
>>27964662
Apparently it's not original enough to just say part 2 but here's the rest faggots
>>27964555
yeah I didn't use to be into electronic, mostly metal, shoegaze, and math rock, but overtime I turned to electroacoustic-style dance music subgenres(there isn't really an overarching genre that all this new stuff falls in but a lot of people just call it future garage I guess). I still like a lot of metal and indie rock shit but I kinda don't wanna hear typical "lyrics over chords" type rock stuff anymore. But I'm kinda getting pretentious right now lol. I haven't heard of a lot of these artists in this playlist so this is neat
>>27964685
Like most things, it's a combination of genes + environment.
>>27964685
upbringing and subject to change of course. What I really want to know is how difficult it would be to change a personality type, if trying to change someones personality type would cause stress/anxiety to the individual and if there are personality types that potentially lie dormant only to surface in certain conditions.
>>27964752
For that last part I mean secondary personality types within the same person.
>>27959976
I'm a virgin and an INTP
Feels bad
>>27964555
yo actually this stuff is really good, I gave up on finding good dream pop/shoegaze stuff a while back because I kept finding only like, brain jonestown massacre cock-rock kinda stuff and it was boring to my ears
>>27964752
When I started taking antidepressants, I was worried that they would change my personality. Nope, I'm still a fucking loner, but I'm just not anxious or depressed about it anymore, and I'm starting to enjoy my lonerism (pic related)
>>27963871
Full Metal Jacket and American Psycho
>>27964857
Psychological disorders like depression and anxiety are independent of personality types
>>27964857
If you are an INTP, theres no need to be depressed. Logic goes against it. Leave good & bad, values and morals behind and be free.
Anyone else depressed but not suicidal? Possibly the worse of the two depending on how you look at it.
>>27963871
Meeting evil, Nightcrawler and 10 clover lane
>>27964912
one post above yours.
>>27964868
>>27963939
Nice taste there bud
>>27964912
Yeah I know that
>>27964912
Suicide isn't logical. You'll be dead in a galactic millisecond anyway, why shorten an already insignificant amount of time.
>>27964136
jake gyllenhaal is ISFP sorry INTPs
>a movie about a rogue photographer
>thinking that's not an ISFP
It combines their two favourite things.
>>27964904
>Logic goes against it
That's the problem, we feel depressed even though there is usually no logical reason to be
>>27964662
>>27964712
pretty good anon, thanks for sharing
>>27964997
Who cares about his mbti? I thought the whole point of the movie was that he's anti-social/sociopathic (I don't feel like looking up the differences right now)
has anyone here been diagnosed with ADHD?
received my diagnosis sophomore year of college. was always a good student but I can't focus for shit on things that don't interest me, but I was always motivated to do well so I'd make sure to get my work done by removing all distractions. still took fucking forever though.
now I'm 23 and off meds, doing ok at my job (I work in consulting and hate it).
does this sound related to INTP shit?
>>27965026
Well the logical reasons would just be the chemicals in our brain and the destructive habits we've formed.
>>27965121
Half of psychological "disorders" are just ways of thinking beyond the norm.
>>27965121
Not really enough information to say, also we're all armchair psychologists and psuedo intellectuals here so I would talk to someone with a PhD and maybe get a second opinion.
>>27963448
I like many different genres, a lot of it changes depending on my mood. Right now what sticks out to me is grunge and experimental.
I really have no clue what music I'd ever want to create though, something centered around guitar I guess, because I love playing it.
>>27965121
I'm afraid to ask to be diagnosed. My brother asked our doctor if he had ADHD and the doctor said if he did have ADHD, he would have been diagnosed a long time ago. Like everybody, I believe I have ADHD. If I ask my doctor, he might think I'm a Ritalin/addy junkie or something.
I'm 18 and graduating high school. I feel super focused in school but as soon as I get home my focus goes right out the window when it comes to homework and responsibilities. I've had a job for less than a year now and I am extremely unsatisfied with it and I fear I will be hopping jobs for the rest of my life.
Can you relate to any of this? How did the meds affect you? I feel like I could actually have free time if I took meds to finish my homework in a reasonable time window...
Why do you hate consulting? Too much talking to people?
>>27964912
Same
oregano
https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality
ohh cool, am I what you call a ''master race'' now?
>>27965471
No we're all faggots
>>27965471
congrats, you are now at the bottom of the food chain
>>27965495
>>27965501
ohh, well poop
almost felt cool for a second there
>>27965262
on mobile so I'll do my best here.
I think you can find something you're passionate about and genuinely not hate your job. I want to do creative work, but I have student loans and shit so I'm trying to make a little bit of money before I do that. also I need to work on getting better at my art as well.
totally relate to what you said. I can focus with a structured environment and clear objective (to a reasonable degree) but when I go home and can prioritize instant gratification over work, it gets very hard.
meds made me much more focused and able to work toward goals. they also greatly increased my anxiety and neuroses. I started getting some pretty dark ideas of the world and existential unrest (didn't browse 4chan at the time either!!) that kind of fucked me up for a while.
consulting is just boring. I don't really do interesting work, but I get paid to sit at a desk for a while so it's not too bad either. just feels really slow paced and easy.
>>27964957
Patrick is practically an INTP in the book masquerading as a chad
>They love patterns, and spotting discrepancies between statements could almost be described as a hobby, making it a bad idea to lie to an INTP.
lmao greentexters
>>27965549
Thanks for all the replies! Not too many people respond to every one of my questions :O
>>27965731
it's the first time I've done it desu. you remind me of a younger me really!
good luck with your journey lad. if you're ever backed into a corner and you just don't have energy to get your shit in order, maybe give adderall a shot. just keep a daily journal or something to make sure you're not going off the deep end, and keep the dose relatively low (I think a too high dose was my main issue).
also meditation is the key to it all.
good luck my dude
INTP but nothing to say aaaaaaa
>intp
>make electronic music
>not studying or working
>alcoholic
>no gf
feels good 2bh
>>27965636
I have this. Im introverted and used to be autistic (not literal autist), but growing up significantly increased my social skills to the point that im surprisingly good at reading people.
>>27965868
These words are so encouraging! Do you meditate via any guidelines, an app, or just self taught? I'll talk to my doctor the next time I see him :)
>>27963650
>Anyone else hyper-analytical and specific about their tastes in vidya and music?
yes. i've whittled down the vidya i play to 3 things: quake live, rocket league, and osu
of course osu is autistic as fuck but clickitty clicking dem circles really fast is pretty therapeutic
quake because it's still the most fast-paced and interesting FPS after all these years
rocket league because there's no other game that relies so heavily on predicting trajectories and mastering basic mechanics
as for music, i've been playing various instruments for over 10 years so i have a ton of influences and am constantly thinking about theory/form, even when i'm barely aware of it.
>>27966191
Reading people and having social skills yourself (or know how to use them) is a completely different thing though.
>>27966148
are you at least making money off of your music? if not then gtfo neetfag
>>27966301
of course, I wouldn't be able to drink If I had no money from it
>>27966323
very well then :) Whats your drink of choice?
I took a test like 4 years ago and it said I was INTJ and then I just did it again and it was the same result. Cool beans
>>27966333
Wine usually, it goes great with cheese.
>>27966055
that's ok fampai, just bask in the self-loathing
INTP-F (INFP-T) reporting in.
I may go to this college and I suck at making new friends, or talking to anyone I don't know. I'll probably just work on other things. Who needs a social life in college, right..?
Intp
Living as a neet because I can't stay motivated to work a dead end job. Have no motivation to go to college. Major alcoholic, drink myself to sleep every night. Feelsbadman
>>27963871
LOTR the Fellowship of the ring.
>>27966361
Don't believe the bullshit meme of college will make you so much friends and be the best times of your life.
I fell for it and it was just highschool 2.0
>>27966285
I just play Melee, League of Legos, and Dark Souls.
And I'm the same way with music. I'm a classical composition major because theory is one of the only things that genuinely interests me next to computers and video games.
>>27966413
Senior in HS here, I've realized how stupid and pointless drama is back in september , and tried to convince my friends that it is.
Since I have pretty bad social anxiety, I know college wont make me "tons of friends bro! partay and get drunk! :^]" but I think even making one or two friends would be very hard for me.
>Dont believe the meme that college IS pointless or highschool 2.0. If you mad more than 5 friends in HS you'll be very well off. Keep an open mind and join clubs. Not easy, but obtainable ^-^
>>27966262
I started with a book called 8 Minute Meditation and basically just do with what they said to do in the first scenario (watch your breath). I'm probably not the best to talk to about it tho. I just know it's really helped clear out the mental clutter that was killing me.
>>27959085
Me every day. I'm in med school and mostly don't go to class. Just study/procrastinate on my bed and at my desk mostly always. I don't follow the lecture schedule on time. I just skip to whatever is important next, and employ a potentially different learning strategy for every lecture.
I: strongly
N: I'm all about chunking my learning into common patterns
T: I have never had a "passion" for anything and certainly do not for medicine. I live by value judgements and in the moment diversions but I can't say I am emotionally moved too strongly by even the things I do for fun.
P: I only care about high level organization. My desk, my schedule, my room, my study materials can remain in disarray as long as my faculties can still navigate. I gain very little benefit from putting in the considerable groundwork to fundamentally organize my surroundings and usually even feel restricted by such order.
>>27966747
I definitely have mental clutter so this will help. Do you meditate by doing the stereotypical cross legged outside thing or can you do this laying in a bath?
I scored a feeler in that 16personalities one
But I felt that was not me so I did another one
http://www.humanmetrics.com/hr/jtypesresult.aspx
and scored INTP
So I'm part of the club fuckers.
Anyway this last test looks more sober, the other one is full of drawings of fairies and shit. This one looks more trustworthytfw go tactics kept popping in my head as I took the test
I don't know if im INTP or ENTP. I can turn on some sort of charisma mode but I feel like I'm acting. People make me nervous and I actively avoid them so I can play music all day
>>27966289
Yeah i know, but even that aspect has significantly increased to the point that many people think im funny and charismatic. Social situations still tire me and burn me out but i can handle them much much better than as a teenager and adolescent when i was literally socially inept.
ENTP bro here
so like you guys but with friends
>>27966782
replying to self. just took the test and was very honest with it.
>>27967302
>but with friends
Wait. So you're telling me you actually enjoy the company of others? I thought i'd heard it all, you sick demented fuck.
>>27966901
That's bullshit.
Nobody sells just one slipper.
I think I'm bipolar but fuck it if I'm spending 5 minutes in front of some quack. Probably just part of my type.
>>27966843
I just do it in a chair. a bath should be fine too.
going to bed, you'll figure your shit out if you just keep a growth mindset (google it) little robo bro!
>>27966901
Kuribo's shoe!
>>27967453
Yeah, just viral marketing for their "monster" theme, surely.
I recommend trying to find an ISFJ to date. I think they naturally understand INTP's well, except for our more pure abstractions which can be off-putting to them.
>>27967959
>ISFJ
Fuck that give me my INFP angel waifu
INFP pussy is literally made for INTP dick
womb kisses
im INTP but i am becoming more and more extroverted and now its a mixture of intro/extro. Anyone other INTP bros experiencing this?
>>27968126
I did, but im back to fully introverted now. Really strange.
>>27968162
how old are you? I was completely introverted in h.s but now as freshman in college, i have come out of my shell. Will it last?
>>27968126
my 3rd attempt at uni was like that, everyclicked for a couple years, didn't have to organize my social life at all but still had one, had 2 gf in the span of 5-6 years and then it all went to shit. Changed scenery, couple fell apart, dead end job. Back to school at 33 and very anti-social again. It can be situational, I guess is what i'm saying.
>>27968242
>Will it last?
depends how much alcohol you drink
seriously
>>27968242
Im 19 now. I was very introverted until i was 16,5 or so, then i started getting more confident, nailed social interaction and generally being extrovert. Sometime around 18 till now im back to baseline again. Really hard to put exact dates on it. I dont think like it was a bad thing, just experience. Puberty could play a role too.
>>27968308
*everything clicked
>>27968314
Yeah alcohol, the chadmaker.
>>27968314
no i don't drink lel
Is this even r9k anymore ? Intp overtake guys.
>>27963871
2001: A Space Odyssey by Stanley Kubrick
Most of you are disgusting pseudo intellectual fedoratippers
t. INTP
P.S. I wish to die
>>27969231
>look at me im so le cute and quirky with this bag on my head XP
>WOAH DUDE LOOK AT THAT GIRL SHES SO CUTE AND QUIRKLY LOL! XD
fucking idiots fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>27966148
>want to be alcoholic because it's the only thing that calms my anxiety
>tfw NEET and can't afford alcohol
I just wanted to say hi. I'm to introverted for any other discussion.
>>27964685
The latter, I was better described as intj previously. Just because some influences can change, though, doesn't mean they all do.
>>27963554
This is literally me.
I wish you and similar minded anons luck. Maybe we'll run into one another during our travels in the years to come. I can only hope.
>>27959085
also me. i sit in my room 99 percent of the day
hello i am fellow INTP
please help i see no reason to live for the next 3 months
>>27962669
it's not really unrealistic. there are some bands that don't know how to play guitar for shit and make some good music, especially rock bands. you won't be a beethoven but you can still do it
>>27971385
>next 3 months
Get on my level
I don't see reason to live for the next eternity.
>>27971421
>I don't see reason to live for the next eternity.
what.
>>27970321
introverted does not mean shy. you are exaggerating the characteristics of the type you were assigned
Does anyone else have really excessive fantasies play out in their minds?
I'll spend maybe an hour a day pacing around the house just daydreaming, but very detailed and controllable like I'm on a constant hit of mdma or something.
Its pretty fun too desu, like watching my own personal anime or something. I'm actually losing alot of weight and somehow getting in shape from all the pacing too.
Or maybe I'm just nuts.
>>27959055
MBTI is a sham and even harmful.
>>27971572
yes
man this thread just keeps proving how awesome INTPs are
>>27971572
I do this all the time. Literally walking in circles living through different scenarios (mundane or fantasy) in my head.
t. INTP
>>27963930
>dies within minutes
Gosh it feels great to be an INTP :^)
>>27963871
Princess Bride and The Big Lebowski. Honorable mention goes to Snatch. Quentin Tarantino also makes some top-quality films without a doubt.
>>27972833
>Princess Bride and The Big Lebowski
>Snatch
>Tarantino
lmao
>>27963871
Chungking Express
>>27972833
coen bros and tarantino are good film makers in general. doesnt take an intp to realize that. but i am attached to their films, it's like my only exposure to any realistic, fun social situation
I got INTP on 16personalities but I got 49% Feeling. Really most things I read about INTP applies to me but some are total opposites and INFP suits more. What am I and how do I find out whether or nor I belong in this thread?
>>27961103
jesus fucking christ you just literally described me. like.. holy shit
should I be concerned? where do you live?
>>27961103
I live in Austria though I wouldn't believe myself if I were you in that case. Possible that I'm tracing your IP and choose a country far away to yours to not seem suspicious. In the Matrix scheme, it would be even more ridiculous to believe what you read here as it is directed towards you and therefore definitely a PsyOp by the creator who put you in there as well.
Nice to meet you senpai, where r u from?
>>27973776
was meant for >>27973593
I'm in class right now so I was in a hush and did not double check. Offline for 50 minutes now
I'm an INTP. Except I'm not, because MBTI is bullshit. Myers and Briggs weren't even psychologists. They were literally two bored housewives.
>>27962551
This entire website was made for weebs, if you don't like it why don't you use le Reddit?
>>27973776
>>27973789
finland here. actually I'm at class too senpai, so sorry for the delayed reply.
but you already knew that I'm at class didn't you.
>>27973776 #
>>27973789 #
also considering how quickly you replied to me despite the timegap between our messages being so long really draws suspicion. just got out of class and while walking towards home I couldn't help but to notice how some of the bypassers stared at me so keenly. pretty sure someone just started following me too. how many of you sick fucks have been patrolling me?
best regards, >>27974024
>>27974268
>>27974024
I suspected your age being way under 26 and occupied with some school system, yes. Though most fags on here come from the Americas, good to know that you're in a pretty direct northern direction to me instead of east/west which basically means retard-axe to me. Pretty much like the Allied forces in WWII, whereas North-to-South forces were holding up much better equipment/technology. Which may lead me to a long discussion about the injection of the established system made possible within a few dozens of years ago only, with everything else before ~1900 being faked as hell by who wants to know as there is only one person in this universe I can be sure of to be existing: me.
>>27966403
God teir series fampai
>>27968126
Doung what you are doing man, although the more i get into society the more i hate it. People are awful
>>27959055
Anyone else conaidered chemical castration to gain a clearer mind, free from biological distractions such as sex, my desires always seem to get in the way of my goals
>>27974688
>chemical
>clearer mind
pick one. Either you choose by yourself not to fap to traps or what else is what's getting you off, or you just be honest with yourself and continue doing what it is that pleases you.
I for myself as an example bought a fleshlight and now, 2.5 years later, I can't fap without it which is what reduces fapping sessions to a minimum when I'm traveling and such, where I can't take it with me. Plus it quickens it up quite a bit sometimes despite making it fell infinitely better to the degree of not feeling the feel of
>tfwnogf
>>27974688
lol no
don't do this
you will benefit from the mental gains of manually controlling your desires and learning to reroute the energy you put into sexual addiction
also testosterone is good for you
INFJ. I fucking hate all of you
>>27974995
I see, well I guess it's all about controlling oneself, I'll remember that you advised me not to do it.
>>27961103
>highly psychic degree
Actually you sound like you suffer from paranoia due to mental disorder, not due to a high IQ.
>>27976664
that's what I was trying to imply when using that word, maybe should have used the word psychotic as I actually went through a psychosis once but that had not much to do with these thoughts desu
>>27963184
Yes. This is me. Everything eventually becomes boring, leaving me with no interests.
>>27963871
used to watch a lot of bruce lee/jackie chan as a kid
i haven't seen many newer films but i liked primer a lot (lol)
>>27959764
Oh fuck! Are you me? 1200 pages almost
I'm so tired, fellow INTPs. So very, very tired.
>And when I'm lying in my bed
>I think about life
>and I think about death
>and neither one particularly appeals to me
>>27975012
Don't worry, I hate myself too
>>27959055
Can someone make a new thread when this one dies?
>tfw your parents, brother and sisters are manipulative liars
My depression, pressure and insults from my family are holding me back from finishing my diploma. I'm already in the last semester, and all I have to do is finish my final year project.
What should I do?
>>27977816
Finish it and get away from them
I've done the personality test twice and have had both ENTP and INTP results
I guess some days I'm more extroverted, some days I'm not.
>>27977927
Thanks for the advice. My father and brother have been telling me to drop out after saying their insults.
anyone else fail at relationships? and not because you're autistic. i'm talking about the realization that you're so wrapped in your own thoughts that you're extremely detached and truly bonding with someone else seems almost like a waste of time.
>>27978296
Kinda. Sometimes. Yeah.
Its a weird feel.
It explains my obsession with Oswald Spengler
>>27959055
>be INTP
>study MBTI theory for 10 years
>study human behaviour with unbiased observation
>realise that MBTI helps to categorize people into loser/not loser types
>INTP is a loser type and a result of unsatisfactory childhoods
>>27960753
that doesn't happen for trillions of years. You wont even want to exist for that long. It would be hell. Not to mention "upgrading" yourself may not even be a practical possibility. Maybe it's the way you typed it as a "matter of fact" thing when it's obvious you don't know shit about what you are talking about. Keep waiting
>>27961503
Why does it seem that INTP tend to like anime?
>>27964904
We live in a world dependent on a system of creation and destruction. Creatures eating other creatures. The amount of total suffering is beyond comprehension. We eat, drink, bathe in literal piss and feces. And it's all meaningless. And this is the only perspective we will get at existence. I think it's logical for a creature who sees this, to feel negative about it's environment.
>>27978916
what are your criteria for loser/not loser
>>27961444
From your description, we're basically the same fucking person, except I don't play vidya. Holy shit.
>>27959055
Anon, you probably think that taking a test several times until you have a result that makes your meaningless life seem somewhat worthwhile constitutes the same thing as getting the result the first time, but it's not. My guess is you've taken the test three or four times and until the most recent time you were considered just an asocial retard (don't know and don't care what the actual name for this is). You aren't brilliant anon, and my guess is that I could lie circles around an ignorant pleeb such as yourself. Fuck off and die
>>27963871
Mulholland Drive and Cosmopolis
>>27964988
Why not shorten it? There's no meaning to it anyway.
>>27978257
It's better to be alone than to be with people like this. Solitude is a bitch, I know it and I konw you know itlook where we are, after all, just go away. Be free
>>27978916
I got a good childhood. If it was possible, I would go back there. I was a lonely kid, but I liked it...
>>27964988
Suicide is literally the most logical thing a human can do. You're fucking retarded
What are the differences between INTP and INTJ? I tend to oscillate between the two.
INTP. How many struggle with internal mental demons?
I can't clear my head, seems like ever
>>27963871
The Thing.
>A formless alien creature trying to be like everybody else
Well...
>>27979391
There are centipides in my mouth
Consuming everything I should be able to talk
There are centipides inside my head
Drifting between the fragments of old childish dreams
>>27963871
The Comedy, even though you're supposed to feel pity or something like that for him, I wish I had his life
>>27979389
They are the same except INTP likes to think and INTJ likes to do. I think.
Always interesting reading other intps experiences and the way the think about things. Always seem like posts I could have made myself.
Especially like the discussion of living lives vicariously in your head and appreciating music for texture. Also the whole getting way into things to an extent where you have a hard time finding people who actually have more than entry level knowledge.
>>27959096
Ayy nigga Libra too
>>27963076
I can be depressed about being socially retarded
Fuck off
>>27959855
You should check out World's End Girlfriend. Might be right up your alley.
Who else is INTP and is really nihilistic? I got 98% towards thinking vs feeling and life isn't really good, but it's very interesting so I wouldn't want to die.
I am INTP-T.. I'm the right personality, but I still feel like I don't belong to post in this thread.. I dunno, I just feel different.
Help me please.
>>27979365
Me too. My best friends were the dogs in my neighborhood and I spent most of my free time wandering around the woods near my house until my dad would whistle really loud, telling me to come home.
>>27979389
Intj's have their shit together
>>27979389
the shortcuts are
"do you usually try to find an answer or multiple possible answers?"
"are you disconnected from or frustrated by your emotions?"
"efficient or through?"
the former is INTJ the later is INTP
the actual way to do it is research cognitive functions.
>>27979389
INTJ is the machine, the calculator, the computer. INTP is the man who came up with the idea for the machine, the calculator, the computer, and built them.
INTJ is simple
INTP is complex
INTJ is mathematics and programming
INTP is philosophical thought and invention-making
INTJ think inside the box, thus they are limited
INTP think outside the box, thus our potential is unlimited
That is the difference.
I am personally not too keen on math, but I'm a very good chess player, because I always have multiple answers in multiple moves.
>>27979276
The only reason I take this test seriously is because I get the same results every time, even if I take it months apart.
I understand being jealous of INTPs, I really do. But please take it to another thread.
>>27982378
>INTJ
>simple
Anyway, INTJs aren't focused on being logical at all, infact everything you just said is the wrong way round. Their leading cognitive functions is Ni which is actually very creative and imaginative. INTPs make better logicians though, they have leading Ti
>>27982570
That makes no sense at all.
Every INTJ I've met both in real life and online was the personification of the Keikaku trope in anime, meaning cold and calculating, always following a linear path and having a plan at hand that they will follow religiously, doesn't sound very creative to me at all, INTPs are far more creative. I've played chess against INTJs, they stubbornly stick with a plan, usually an already tried strategy with a good opening that quickly results in a checkmate if the opponent doesn't respond properly. Problem for them is, they're so focused on a particular plan that if the opponent responds correctly, which I almost always do as an INTP who just adapts to the opponent and doesn't follow a particular plan, they lose the game, because they put all their pieces in the basket, so to speak. My dad used to say that if you want to see what kind of person someone is, play a game of chess with them.
I'm not sure which type is better at logic, though.
So, we are the thinking type? I tend to spend a lot of time "inside my head", so to speak. Thinking about things, imagining possibilities and discussions. Much like our ENTP counterparts, but much less extroverted about it (well. duh) and preferring to keep it within ourselves. And I guess that's why there are so many of us on the chan: it gives us an outlet where we don't have to keep it to ourselves, but can actually discuss. Same with friendships - a few like minded people who we share interests with.
Am I correct in thinking this or is this the result of something different i.e. autism?
>>27983806
No, you're right anon
>>27983806
Yes, my brain is on 24/7, I'm constantly daydreaming or thinking about something or even having a cool idea for something.
My concentration and attention for the outside world falls short because of it, however.
>>27959055
>ENTP
Do I kill myself yet familia?
Why am I the only ENFJ in any of these threads.
>feed constantly off of others approval for my own self esteem.
>Desire to do good but can never accomplish all of my goals
>Kindhearted person that is taken advantage of.
>Just want a gf who will be happy, take things slowly, and wont start up drama
IF I AM A NATURAL CHARISMATIC LEADER WHY CANT I GET A GF OR LIVE HAPPILY?
>after all this time the MBTI meme is still going
fucking hell you people really buy into this shit
>GOD TIER
INTP
>BRETTY GREAT TIER
INFP
>GOOD TIER
INTJ, ENTP, ISFJ
>DECENT TIER
ISTJ, ENTJ, ISTP, INFJ, ENFP
>NORMIE TWAT TIER
ESTJ, ESTP, ESFP, ISFP
>LOATHSOME CUNT TIER
ESFJ, ENFJ
>>27982378
You don't know what you are talking about because it's literally the other way around.
INTJ is the innovator personality type that completely thinks outside of the box and usually doesn't care if his ideas go against the mainstream, because they usually do.
>>27985123
Why are INTPs so retarded honestly? I hope you were making a joke here, because anyone with a sense of logic would know that any P type is inferior to any J type and any I type is inferior to every E. ENTJs are the master race and seeing how /r9k/ is mostly populated by the INTP type, INTPs must be the shittiest type to be as a human being. You will be and stay for ever a sad loser for the rest of your life as that type.
>>27985380
>INTJ is...
>INTP is...
none of you idiots know what you're talking about and that you think these distinctions have substantial predictive power is a joke tbqh
who INTP here who also does exercise and stuff in their livesand have been in relationships
ENTJ
What should I think about this.
Daily reminder if you're unemployed and INTP you should take up programming
>that nagging suspicion that there's a conspiracy against you
>forgetting to write down a neat idea you had and failing to recall it later
>constructing entire scenarios in your head only to find yourself poor at dealing with those scenarios in real life later on
>>27985560
For what purpose? How will I make money?
hm intriguing
i ended up reading the complete profile of my personality
>>27979010
Fantastical settings that are easy to improve
>>27985460
>i want to be an intp but can't reee
Sorry bud, I really wish I could help you.
>>27982914
INTJs can't into logic. Their whole deal is intuition which is illogical. INTJs want the image of being logical but they aren't actually. If you ask them to explain one of their intuitive conclusions it won't make any sense since they don't understand it themselves.
Also INTJs lack Se. Se is dynamic and adaptable. That's why they rely on planning so much because they can't adapt for shit.
>>27986453
Interesting. Im INTP but i have always relied more on adapting then planning.
>>27985739
What the fuck do you think? You will gain a set of skills that are in high demand and be able to exchange them for cash. Additionally, it's a set of skills that suits the natural abilities of INTPs very well.
I get intp on every test I've taken. I try to answer as honestly as I can, but sometimes I wonder if I'd choose different answers if my circumstances were different. if I were born a 10/10 chad with a lot of opportunities, would I still answer the same?
>>27986546
Yea Se and Ne are the spontaneous functions.
The most interesting aspect to MBTI to me has been how each personality type would do in warfare in different roles. Soldier, officer and commander would be how i would divide the roles, and the officer and commander roles would be divided by tactician or strategist.
I have little knowledge about MBTI, so i would like to hear what you guys think about this. For INTPs, i think we could make good strategists but would make shit tacticians, as they require good soldier officer interactions and quick, calculated thinking, where as INTPs think fluidly and out of the box, but do poor in calculated and straight forward settings.
>>27986569
>What the fuck do you think?
I think you are a retard wageslave
>>27986886
ISTP here invading your thread. Sorry I'm not good at following rules.
INTPs belong in research and development of military technology. Intuition makes you impractical and out of touch with reality. Some ISTP strategist in the other army would stomp you. Pic related.
>>27966323
May I ask how much you make and what's your writing process?
>narcissism: the thread
>>27966554
I have a couple people I see from time to time in college, I also see familiar faces. It's okay to talk a bit, it actually makes you feel alright. The problem is shutting yourself completely, what then with projects and those opportunities?
>>27986886
Assuming perfect humans and perfect representations some of the types would probably be irrelevant, xxxx creates a nuke and makes soldier xxxx worthless etc.
If the humans are not perfect even then a retarded xxx1 may be better than a smart xxx2 in a role that fits xxx2 perfectly
>>27986987
And I think you're a straight up retard, no qualifiers. Your parents (or government) L I T E R A L L Y take care of you like they would if you were actually retarded. Poor little babby, unable to take care of himself. Do you shit yourself too?
You're actually worse than a retard, because you have no excuse. You make me sick.
>>27987278
>ISTJ-who-thinks-hes-an-INTJ tears
>>27987048
are there more of these for other types?
>>27987337
>anime pic
>no actual argument
Every time. I've come up as an INTP every time I've taken the test, I hate those smug INTJ fucks. The point I'm trying to get across is programming is a job suited to the desires and skillsets of your typical INTP.
>>27987379
Yea it's from Dario Nardi's book.
http://www.amazon.com/Neuroscience-Personality-Brain-Insights-People/dp/0979868475/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461112970&sr=8-1&keywords=dario+nardi
>>27987385
why exactly is programming suited to intp?
>>27987048
I would have to disagree. ExTJ types would be the best in a military situations, but INTP has the trump card of being able to come up with some insanely far fetched but surprisingly effective move that can undo all progress set by the careful planning and execution by ExTJ types. I would say ISTP and INTP would be such a close call that it would sloley rely on individual skill.
The average INTP wouldnt do it that well in warfare though, i will admit that.
I wish there was more research on this, nothing interests me more than this.
>>27987528
thanks istp bro
>>27987385
>"argument"
You are definitely an ISTJ, vacate life immediately.
>>27987569
It's pretty logic and detail oriented, which caters to this particular types """autism""". It's also a field where you don't have to interact with people often, which does as well. Though in the interest of full disclosure I must say you do have to meet with people and plan out your program if you are collaborating with them. Still, this time is a lot less than in any other field, and your fellow programmers are probably just as big of autists as you.
This still alive? Neatand about to die as well
Anyway I'm >>27966863 and I started reading yesterday about INTPs and it describes me pretty well actually. So I can confirm the 16personalities site test is bullshit.
Actually I have a theory: The 16personalities site is made by a Feeler, that's why it's so full of goofy drawings and the questions are all quite ambiguous, always using the word "feelings" in an ambiguous way.
And the site in my post is made by an thinker so it looks more sober and its questions are waay clearer and to the point.
r8 me
of course its not original
How do you even function as an INTP? Are you just lucky and managed to find something that interests you? I feel like I'd rather just stare at a wall or get lost in mindless entertainment like binge watching a shitty tv show than do anything one would consider productive. I know I should be doing things, but I just can't bring myself to do anything if I don't actually care about it. I often blame it on low energy and lack of motivation, but I'm not sure that's the case. I guess I just have to brute force myself into building discipline and ride that wave regardless if I'm enjoying myself or not.
>>27987617
Go be a literal retard somewhere else, you're giving our type a bad name.
>>27987745
>How do you even function as an INTP?
Opportunities falling from the sky or being forced into something
>>27987765
See >>27987617
>Sartre
>Asiimov
>Nash
>Hawking
>Newton
>Nietzsche
>Tesla
>Rand
>Fischer
>mfw
>>27987745
The trick is that you dont function unless you happen to be of exceptionally high intelligence and can pull an Einstein.
I have an INTP friend, how does he view me as an INFP?
>>27987981
I see you as Wojak basically. Accurate?
INTP here
Anyone else have to be constantly obssesed here?
I always have to be thinking/researching something that peeks my interest like drugs or girls or Linux or something. Usually every week there is something new that i stick with. Any one else experience this?
Holy fuck, didn't ever think that much intps existed here.
Basically humanity is an product of high intelligence not high moralic intelligence.
Apes behave the same as we do, just with less intelligence.
The depressed human is not depressed because he has no friends, no.
He is depressed because he KNOWS why he has no friends.
Because everything seems like an big acting, ofc most of humans don't know that they are acting, that's the worst part.
The acting is thaught from birth on, you are thought to say hello, to work, to be friendly, to do that and this blablabla.
But still you have this monkey desires like sex, greed, etc.
Some humans that don't get the right education but have internet, and are somewhat intelligent are going to be like us, depressed over how almost all of humanity is fucking retarded and it doesn't even know it.
People in africa, poor people, are almost just drive by the monkey insticts we have too, because they got nothing thaught, like we get thaught by our parrents.
Thy just learn the shit and behave like monkeys. Because we are monkeys with a bigger brain.
And that fucking shit is making me so sad, because just humans that had the worst fate like me in an rich ass country can ever think like this.
Il just enjoy neet life til i die of anything, anything other is just to deluded aka bluepilled for me, it's just like a game for me, it get's fucking sad after a time.
>>27988015
Very much accurate.
>>27987574
It's not theory anymore we have the brain scans to show who is actually good at what. You can't fraud us. ExTJ types got nothing. Extroverted thinking types belong in manager positions. That's different from strategy.
I have seen ENTJs who can get good at strategy like in chess. That was after they grinded thousands and thousands of games forcing Se data into their brain. But that's different than practical in the moment strategy on a battlefield where there are no rules. That's Se territory.
A battlefield war between an ISTP and INTP is silly. If you actually knew what an ISTP and INTP was you wouldn't think it would be close. ISTP strategy is something like Genghis Khan's style. INTP strategy I don't even know but you don't belong on a battlefield. That's like making your awkward goofy guy in charge of your army and he has all this fancy military theory in his head that he wants to try out. Little does he know he is completely lacking in straightforward tactics. People with Ne tend to use evasive strategies instead of force and aggression.
>>27988016
yeah man either every week or every month i have to find something to occupy myself with
>>27988126
Well i only know myself as an INTP, and im not like that at all. You are describing turbulent personalities there anyways. Any turbulent type would be absolute shit tier on the battlefield, regardless of their MBTI type.
Regardless, ISTP and INTP are so close that it is up to the individual really. Stop fanboying your MBTI type.
On ExTJ, i believe that most military leaders in history were ExTJ. They are hands down top tier in organization and execution, but lack creativeness and will be defeated if their opponent is able to outplay their perfect planning by doing something that they have never thought of.
>genghis khan
Thats pre gundpowder warfare, very different from now. Infact, its the only reason he wasnt able to conquer the planet. If gunpowder was never invented we would be speaking Mongolian right now.
I am >>27987708 for reference
>>27988259
For me its always something kinda illegal or legalish, like legal ways to get high and dumb stuff like shroom hunting or getting nudes and what not
>>27988408
Khengas had gunpowder, he got it from the chinese.
He would have conquered the world but the empire collapsed under it's own size from in-fighting and stalling when they were about to take all of europe.
>>27988465
It wasnt advanced though and played a minor role anyways.
But you are right as well.
>>27988505
"Minor role in combat back then" was what i ment to say
God tier thread lads. I'm proud of my fellow intp's
>>27963871
revolver
>>27985123
This is a joke right?
ISFJ's are some of the dumbest types and INTP/INFP are the poorest and most susceptible to mental illnesses.
>INTP
>not interested in programming or math
what is the swiftest way to cure myself of this autism
>>27988817
Brick to the head
>>27988817
you can be a linguist or a writer or something.
you guys have massive aspergers
t. ISTP master race
>>27988408
Turbulent personalities? What does that even mean.
I'm not fanboying. Just splashing you guys with some reality. I get tired of seeing intuitives circle jerk themselves to death about how they are theoretically the best at everything and it gets more and more outlandish. INTPs are good at a lot of things just be accurate about what they are. I actually like INTPs in some stuff they can outclass all the other types.
ExTJs like to lead yes but that doesn't mean they are good leaders or that they should be leading. And you are right Te is not innovative. It uses the already established way of doing things and is concerned with efficiency.
I have a job but I'm trying to move up the ladder. I don't want to reinforce the statistic of having the lowest income.
>>27987574
>>27988126
ENTP here, not that that's relevant. Both of you are right and you are wrong.
ENTJ is the ideal leader. However, an ENTJ would probably use military command as a tool for something else. Empire and dominion. Think Augustus Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte. ENTJ's don't get good at strategy from grinding, in fact, no intuitive grinds. Intuitives theorize. Strategy is their natural mode of life for ENTJ's. I don't think an INTP would ever be fit for military leadership. They might be good advisors, but that's it.
ISTP is the ideal lone warrior, not general. Miyamoto Musashi. ISTP's are not strategists or generals. You are good in the heat of the moment and as individuals, but your planning and leadership is secondary. In fact, ESTP's (like George S. Patton, Alexander the Great, Theodore Roosevelt, Winston Churchill) would be better at leading troops or for managing wartime efforts. Erwin Rommel is an ISTP. Genghis Khan is an ENTJ, ironically. He was an incredible long term planner to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNTdSSLauQ
>>27989051
>ENTP here
I stopped reading there. Opinion discarded.
>>27988757
>laugh initially at this
>read over the INFP description
>smile is deleted
haha... good one
>>27989165
Here (you) are.
ENTP is the most robot of all E types.
>>27989005
Look at the last section of my results.
You are fanboying m8. ISTP and INTP are too close in this area for it to make any significant difference. It comes down to the individual.
>>27989051
Thats bretty interesting, because the description you gave about ISTPs applies exactly to me, and im INTP. I can really keep my cool and perform in short duration high stress moments, but could not see myself organizing a consistent war effort on my own.
the only thing i ever fucking do is sit at home and shitpost i rarely ever leave unless someone physically makes me. i dont make friends unless im forced to be in a room with someone. being intp is kinda shit.
>>27989264
I had an ENTP tell me once that you guys don't actually know what you are talking about or if you know you are right. You just say stuff that might sound true. You find out if you are right by debating. Even then you don't care if you are right or not you just want to debate.
>>27989294
I don't know what those results are on about. Stick to stock MBTI or enneagram. Or else people can just make stuff up.
There is a big difference. I don't pretend I can dabble in nuclear fusion theory.
>>27989507
Its the most used site for this test.
>There is a big difference. I don't pretend I can dabble in nuclear fusion theory.
Not in warfare. It comes down to the individual.
>>27989862
>Not in warfare. It comes down to the individual and how far you are on the N-S scale.
It only works that way in your ivory tower. An ISTPs home is in strategy/tactics they live there. They see through the world through it. You are just visiting. Sadly I will never get to see you get rekt on multiple levels at once.
holds up spork
t. ENFP
>>27990031
Yeah you just went autism mode. Stop right now.
I always get remarkably similar results. I'm not convinced it means much, however the description the website has for INTPs really does match me pretty well.
>>27990275
>plz stop it doesn't fit with my master race narrative
>>27990858
Ironically you are the one who is living some delusion of muh ISTP mustard race. Neither the average INTP nor average ISTP are fit for military leadership. Knock your autism down and look at reality, especially for someone who says that INTPs are detached from reality its ironic to see the bullshit you choose to believe in.
>>27990976
ment to say
>knock your autism down a peg
>>27990976
>plz submit to my hippy world view of everyone is equal and we don't have differences
>a half retarded INFP can do anything an ISTP can do
fuck off
>>27991176
Nice strawman faggot. I clearly said that ExTJ types are the clear winners when it comes to military leadership.
>ISTP masterrace military genius here guise, nothin personnel kid
Get your head out of your ass you literal autist. Your narcissims and delusion here are top level cringe. Pic related is you basically.
>>27989005
>I'm not fanboying
>Just splashing you guys with some reality
Turbulent means you'll make a point even when it offends or contradicts others
>>27991321
Only INTJs do that autistic shit. An ISTP has never worn a fedora. There has literally never been an uncool ISTP. You can try and frame me as an autist but it won't stick. What I am is right. The truth is being rejected from psyche to protect your ego. I thought INTPs were like me where they could separate fact from ego but I guess not. You must use logic like a girl or an INTJ.
>>27991453
>I am ISTP, cool, military genius, objectively superior masterrace
>never worn a fedora
>this is the objective truth
You had me until here. Well played, i must admit that i fell for it.
>>27991380
Opposite, assertive is like that.
>>27992012
I have seen INTPs with fedoras though. Something about them communicates your lack of masculinity. Only the most beta types wear them.
>>27992142
>assertive
>lack of masculinity
Pick one
>>27992176
>INTP
>assertive
pick one
>>27992186
Wait, you do know that MBTI only gives a rough spectrum of someones personality right?
>>27992245
>rough
Nope. You use the functions you use. You can have an assertive enneagram type but that's about it. Don't be a retard and pull the special snowflake card. You aren't an exception.
>>27992354
Its clear that you have ran out of proper arguments to make as you must resort to baseless assumptions and tumblr memes to make a point.
Truth is that MBTI is an unscientific test, and while it most definitely gives a rough estimate of ones personality, it cannot possibly cover enough of it to be seen as definitive.
But you have already admitted to being a literal autist and retard with the last few posts you have made, so i didnt expect too much to begin with.
>>27992420
>I want to be a special snowflake but you won't let me wahhh
All types are super predictable until the very end even you as an INTP. I have argued with INTPs before and they are all like you. They don't like definitive answers. They like to keep things open ended. They like to keep things as questions so it stays theory. That's not you being right that's just you being an INTP. It hurts for me to argue with you because it's like I'm talking to a literal retard who is scared of conclusions. At least it's not as bad as ENTPs.
There is MBTI, Enneagram/instincts and personality disorders. That's pretty much all you need to map someone's behaviours completely. Any actions they take can be traced back to that. Denial doesn't make it not true.
>this massive fucking autism battle
Can the person who started this fucking military bullshit just get it over with and post the list of which type you think fits into which role?
>>27992923
>autism battle
INTPs just can't handle the banter. You can't start a bigger shit storm in MBTI than trying to type people.
>>27959085
Yep, people scare/bore me
>>27985380
INTP is the innovator
All famous innovators like Tesla and Newton were INTP
If INTP isn't the innovator then please enlighten me what we are
r8 i m sad
>tfw I wanted to be the cool loner ISTP but ended up as the uncool nerd
>>27993150
>only 82% introverted
Get on my level, normie.
>>27993150
I got same title, does this mean we're like gohan where we haven't unlocked our full potential?
>>27993140
>INTPs claiming tesla
You better hope no INTJs see that post.
I can tell you what you are if you really want me to but I'm playing video games right now.
>>27992420
>Truth is that MBTI is an unscientific test
It has been widely tested across the decades and proves to be incredibly accurate although you are right that most psychologists think it is imperfect. It's far from unscientific.
>>27988817
Be a writer like me. I personally strongly dislike math.
>>27993140
Tesla was most likely INTJ but you're right about newton at least
>>27988817
INTP is an explanation for mental processes, reasoning and behavior. Given most gravitate towards fields such as math and science it's not impossible to despise them as an INTP.
100% introverted
Someone help please
>>27993494
He has ascended
>>27993494
eternl sufferng
>>27993665
>>27993723
>tfw most of my coworkers are women
>the worst part about the job isnt its a job
>but the curshing social anxiety of being in a room with more than 0 people
INTPs and INTJs get confused a lot because they both have the genius scientist who changes the world fantasy. An INTJ brain acts like a computer processor. Information goes in and a conclusion gets spit out. INTP brains also work like a processor but they have control over what information goes into the processor. They can consciously come up with their own logic which makes them more independently minded.
INTJ: automatic thinking
INTP: a hybrid of manual thinking and automatic thinking
ISTP: manual thinking with some automatic assistance
Because of Ti and it's independence both INTPs and ISTPs are more likely to be the innovators. The Ti vibe is something like "I will do it my own way". ISTPs will innovate stuff with practical application and INTPs will innovate theory.
INTJs can innovate but because of their Te they will tend to follow the established way of doing things which tends to make it harder to innovate. Plus the automatic thinking won't work good unless it's put in the right place first. INTJs innovate because they are all about the future.
INTJ innovators: Bill gates, Tesla
INTP innovators: Elon musk, Einstein
ISTP innovators: Steve jobs, Thomas Edison
The funny thing is Elon Musk is an INTP but he named his company after an INTJ. INTPs are more goofy. INTJs take themselves more seriously. They have less conscious thinking than an INTP. An INTP will talk about their own logic a lot and their own ideas. You can get the sense that they have their own map. An INTJ will have a stream conscious style of speaking. It will feel like it's harder to catch the definitive point. They have no map inside their head.
Is this a INTP thing or an autism thing?
I feel like there's a galaxy between me and whoever i'm dating.
I feel like i can only be myself when i'm alone.
I feel like even in intimate relationships my behavior is made up of flowcharts, specific guidelines, and memorized lines. I'm not genuine. I just follow a script. A lot of the times i just copy and paste what other people told me.
For example if someone is sad i have canned responses i will always use.
I see a lot of people just coming up with things to say spontaneously but i'm not like that. I have to memorize lines. It feels really unauthentic to just be such a patchwork....
>>27994543
I'm pretty similar although not as extreme.
If I'm around familiar people I'm comfortable with, ie my friends or family, then i can be pretty spontaneous and can come up with some good stuff on my own.
But around strangers or on a date (HA!) then yeah, i stick to stuff I've heard and just read a script essentially.
I swear if it weren't for the introversion we'd make pretty decent actors or voice actors.
But at the same time it could just be spergy autism, idk.
I fucking hate being one.
Hey, programming looks cool!
>do some things with it
>gets the basics down
>gets bored with it
I have tons of interlinked fantasies going on in my head daily that is enough to make a 50 hour RPG in RPG maker.
>learns the program fairly well
>not enough resources to compliment what i need
>loses interest since nobody will play the game anyway since you need to jerk off someone to advertise it
Tried MMA.
>some of the techniques are cool
>was decent exercise
>got bored anyway since i find exercise boring as it is
People also bore the shit out of me.
>talk to someone i haven't seen in a while
>convos always boil down to "how have you been holding up?" or "what job do you work?" and i can't stand flowcharted conversations
>people almost always talk about politics, music, current happenings, etc. which all bore me
>the only people i can be friends with are people who stray from the norm, and it turns out to be online friends only
Can't even find a career I want to do because nothing interests me. Unfortunately, it isn't profitable to play video games for a living either. The only reason I like them so much is because they come in a big variety.
I think our(read:my) problem is that we hate routine.
>>27993140
You are sad people trying to be something you aren't.
>>27995715
>Marx
Glad I'm not INTJ
ALL NORMIES GTFO
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>27995745
If another recession/depression happens his popularity will surge.
>>27995745
I was already expecting a dumb reply like that.
>>27995715
>marx
>rand
>nietzsche
>fuckerberg
lol
also INTP has einstein, darwin, kant, curie, locke, adam smith, hayek, friendman, aquinas, descartes, parmenides.... but i bet you don't even understand their work, not something you can just point at and say "i know the underlying theory of this"
better luck next time tho
Who makes the best friends of an INTP? I find i tend to prefer extroverts.
>>27996310
>I bet you don't understand their work
I think you're projecting.
>>27996126
>implying Marx and Marxism aren't fucking retarded
>>27995876
Doesn't mean his ideas hold any value
>>27996378
okay intj
hello my friends, fellow shut in INTP here
>>27996465
You understand there's nothing to "get" with any of these people right? With Einstein, Curie, Newton and the like, all has been sufficiently proven, there's no real room for interpretation. Everything else is philosophy which means absolutely nothing.
>>27992550
You are the special snowflake here. You have proven time after time to be delusional and self absorbed to the point of losing touch with reality. You think that you are some kind of big shot and are extremely narcissitic. Last time i checked those are not typical ISTP traits, so you are refuting your own point here.
Finally, you believe that something akin to a horosocope in scientifical basis can accurately predict personalities, because you have deluded yourself into believing that.
It hurts for me to argue with you because you literally have autism.
>>27996592
>philosophy which means absolutely nothing.
Want to know how I know you're a fucking idiot?
>>27993395
>and proves to be incredibly accurate
that's not even true lmao
>>27996662
Please, philosophy is nothing more than a set arbitrary axioms. Every single philosophy can be applied to the exact same degree of any other; i.e. it's all totally meaningless. Prove otherwise.
>>27996753
>a set arbitrary axioms
You don't know what you're talking about. Which philosophers have you read?
>>27996768
>don't know what I'm talking about
Care to elaborate?
>>27996823
Care to answer my question?
Brushing off the importance of philosophy in its entirety by calling it arbitrary shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. Not only are you generalizing without making any distinction between the various branches that make up "philosophy" (ethics, aesthetics, epistemology, etc), you're also making baseless assumptions. Dismissing philosophy by calling it a set of axioms makes absolutely no sense, since you're apparently trying to apply some sort of homogeneous frame of reference to a field that is all but homogeneous.
>>27981205
Nice
Sometimes I think where did I lost it. I have this desire to fit in, to be one of them; but it's clear I can't do this. I was happy alone, and now I can't be happy anymore.
>>27996912
It doesn't matter what branch of philosophy you pick. All of it relies on axioms. Those axioms may be different, but they're still axioms regardless.
>>27996985
I asked you which philosophers' works you read and you still haven't answered. Don't talk about philosophy if you know jack shit about it aside from what you've read on /lit/ and Wikipedia.
>All of it relies on axioms
Care to present me with examples that back up this claim? Did you come to such a conclusion after thoroughly and extensively studying philosophy and all of its branches? Otherwise, you're talking out of your ass.
>>27982914
>using the chess meme to judge INTJs
Maybe the people you think are INTJs arent actually INTJs? They arent the stereotypical chessmasters, if you want an accurate description check out michael pierce on yt.
INTPs are not primarily logical but they arent illogical if they use their Te. Also, the other guy is bullshitting, if INTJs develop Se they can be adaptable, if theyre immature, they arent.
>>27986453
INTJ conclusions are not conscious. They have their inferior Se which picks up data subconsciously. If they develop Se, they can become more adaptable.
Even though its weak it can be focused, Se is more than just adaptability, its focused energy, whereas Intps have virtually none if you look at their entire function stack, so by that reasoning INTPs should be the ones who are unadaptable, yet they are. Its the same reason why INTJs have more of an obsessive aggressive drive, they still have that Se, but its backing their Ni vision instead of the real world.
What you're describing is aspergers, not being an INTJ.
>>27997065
* I mean INTJs on that second paragraph
>>27993328
Isn't INTP-A the cool loner type though?
"Confident individualism" sounds like it
>thread about INTP
>people still talking about INTJ meme
>>27997181
For some reason people seem to hate them alot
>>27997129
Yea people in the mbti community really underestimate the value of Se. They think it just makes you superficial and you can use it to feel the wind and stuff.
Se and Ne are both spontaneous. Just look at ENTP/ENFP for proof of that.
>What you're describing is aspergers, not being an INTJ.
Is there a difference? lul. I'm not a big believer in people being able to develop their last function. It's usually treated like a red headed step child.
>>27997020
Philosophy is all axioms. In order to claim something is either good or bad, true or false you have to rely on some sort of axiom to do so. This is evident by any philosophy that rivals another.
For example, Ayn Rand asserts that productivity is noble based on her own concepts of what is good.
>>27997311
I'd say its entirely possible to develop your last function, for INTJs that would mean going out and experiencing the world outside of their heads, or though mindfullness meditation.
For INTPs, it would mean being more sensitive to social harmony around them and to "dress up" their logical observations, (as hard as that is)..and so on.
>>27997425
"Developing" Se would mean something different to INTJs. They would be developing a retarded version of Se that's missing most of it's features.
>tfw INFP
>introvert
>daydreamer
>refuse to live in fucked up delusional society
>INFP only comprise 4% of population
>Highest chance of suicide
>always daydreaming of something better
>dreams are impossible
INFP's are robots by nature. its a curse
>>27997539
I was talking about developing inferior functions.
For INTPs, they can't develop Se as well as INTJs, since its even lower in their stack, which means its a stronger function in INTJs.
>>27997615
Yea I know. I think you misunderstood me. I was just saying INTJ Se isn't going to look the same as say ESTP Se. It's not going to be sophisticated.
>>27997667
Yes, it won't ever come as naturally as ESTP/ESFP Se, but it can become at least reasonably developed.
>>27997724
Inferior functions are usually dumb versions of that function. Se to an INTJ would be like if you threw them off a cliff and now they are forced to use Se. They still can't do all the other stuff Se can do like using brute force and playing with people's reactions. They still won't naturally take in a lot of Se data to give them reality checks.
>>27997829
In short bursts, I believe they can, but it drains them. It's the same way INTPs can act like outgoing Fe users for a short while.
That's why they need to develop it and manage it in a healthy way, but not necessarily for the same reasons that dominant Se users do, its more so so they don't turn into tinfoil hat crazies who can't see reality and are blinded by a self imposed psychosis of constant pattern seeking.
>>27971421
I know this feel
fellow INTP also
>>27998007
I think it might help them if they play sports actually. I knew an INTJ that played a lot of tennis and he was pretty normal. He was pretty good too.
I was INTP-T and changed to ENTP-A
>>27996381
>>implying Marx and Marxism aren't fucking retarded
I didn't imply that though you subhuman. Whatever Marx politically believed in isn't immediately what all INTJs believe in. Yet again INTPs prove to be the dumbest personality type.
>>27996310
You could have stopped your list with Einstein, Darwin, the rest is meh tier.
INTJs have far more famous people than on that image and all of them are more influential than the people you've listed.
>but i bet you don't even understand their work
Lol. Keep projecting.
>>27997181
INTPs are just sad and jealous. I would be jealous too if I was the passive, self-loathing version of something better though.
>>27985460
t. ENTJ
Have fun being a manipulative fuck with no friends
Make another INTP thread please. Actually, make an INTP board.
>>27985502
>and that you think these distinctions have substantial predictive power is a joke tbqh
>personality types
>will have specific characteristics and distinctions
>no predictive power
Ahh, you might consider yourself retarded from now on.
>>27989264
>extroverted
>most robot
ok
>>27994543
Sounds like an autism thing, unless you're just more of an extreme intp than me
>>27995241
This, this.
Basically our only friends can be other intps since the only conservation we care about is people with similar interests
>>27996346
INTPs, and to a lesser extent other NT types. Overall, people with similar interests
>>27959855
Bloody hell, that's relatable.
I often delete music or opinions from social media/music sharing platforms because after a while I feel a bit embarrassed over being bold enough to believe others would be remotely interested in my work as most times other musicians share their music, I'm really not into what they play.
>>27963871
Naked
Valhalla Rising
>>27971385
Idk about you but I'm living for ES6. E3 is coming up in like a month.
any INTPs want to post music?
here's a track
>tfw can't be fucked to finish anything or spend more time than it takes to lay down a general idea
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1dW7ORamuiw
>>27999414
https://soundcloud.com/dorothy-elizabeth-beardsley/db-hi-on-me-re-edit
just cba these days
>>27999524
mirin the chill
goddamn this is chill
>>27999554
thank youbl0x
>>27959085
unfortunately matey, well-that's how it began anyway...
>>27999033
I didn't imply that INTJs were Marxist you faggot.
But acting as though Marx being an INTJ somehow validates or gives weight to anything is fucking stupid because Marx was literally retarded.
>>27995715
>Newton not INTP
Bullshit, everything he thought of was literally outside the fucking box and never heard of using his own fucking logic and brain consciously
I can see why Tesla is an INTJ, but Newton? Fuck off
>>27999255
He said MOST robotic of all EXTROVERTED types.
Man, us INTPs really are fucking nitpicky autists.
>>27996346
I test either as INFJ or INFP and my only friend is an INTP.
>>27999414
https://open.spotify.com/user/1260044053/playlist/056ZDRGRxULIjvq6GhQqSy
Playlist of shoegaze/dream pop/indie/alt rock/prog rock that I posted earlier ITT. A lot of major seventh chords since it tends to be the "INTP Chord"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhTPKOFwdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkC4tdYW5jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5ztuhEat4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAazNuJBOQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wbDMsOwIo
>>27999414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbZBfjixAok
>>27997065
>chess meme
What chess meme? There is no meme in chess, you either lose or win, depending on how you play.
>muh no tru scotsman
I just so happen to have only introverted friends. It just so happens that most of them play chess and I've made them all take the test online. The majority of them got INTJ, the ones I win against most of the time ironically.
Face it, INTJs are shit against INTPs when it comes to strategic games and thinking. If I were to make a direct comparison to chess, INTJ would be White and INTP Black. INTJ does, INTP reacts. White opens with their Queen, checking Black's King and trying to take Black's Rook. INTP reacts by trapping INTJ's Queen. The result? White just shot themselves in the foot and lost their Queen. INTP proceeds to win the game.
INTJ loser scum are not welcome here as posted in the OP, so shoo.
I got ISTP
What does this mean
>>27964100
It's genetic. They have already mapped some genetic personality traits, such as being a warrior or worrier, and also being novelty seeking or not.
>>28002345
Not completely genetic. Also depends on the environment, family and financial state.
>>28002527
Yeah I know, I just mean that some personality traits are genetic.
>>28001392
monobody is so tight it makes me want to kill myself
i'm too lazy to get that kind of dexterity
fuck
New general when
