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>>27721357
>maturity leave
You still have to pay the cooking staff, the drive thru cashiers and the one cashier that needs to stay open for the tech illiterate old people.
If anything my local mcdonalds seemed to get busier after implementing these machines. There were only 3 cashiers to begin with anyway. Just moved the two cashiers to the kitchen.
I DON'T GET THIS REPLACEMENT MEME
>>27721357
>maturity leave
good kek
why does this kind of blatant classcuckery exist?
like i could understand if a billionaire made this meme but they obviously didn't
But this is only a start. If entire production lines can be unmanned, what make you think a burger shack can't? Soon McDonalds will be completely unmanned.
This is undeniably a great thing.
>uneducated
College kiddies are the ones who want $15/hr wages
>>27721426
Because customers are assholes who frequently change their orders.
A human is more flexible than a machine.
>>27721375
>>27721406
Heehee i was almost forced to face the fact that my argument was bad but i see here that you made a typo hahaha tough luck pal
>>27721357
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>>27721426
People would rob the place surely.
>>27721461
What's stopping them from robbing it now you dumb fuck?
>>27721400
You could completely automate a mcdonalds. All the food is standard and people don't get custom orders. You could automate a fast-food place so far that all it would need is one maintenance guy who can sit on his ass for 9/10s of his shift and occasionally hit a machine with a broom.
>>27721461
>not having automated turrets and laser fences
>>27721357
>People are scum for working jobs that are essential to the economy and then demanding a living wage?
This country is run by batshit insane, sadistic rich sociopaths. The very fact that they can say this sort of thing openly shows how pathetic that average American is.
>>27721453
That's not a typo, that is a completely wrong word
>>27721453
I don't even support a $15 minimum wage. Doesn't make you any less of a bumbling retard, does it?
>>27721426
Because machines are incapable of dealing with fuckups. They're only good for repetitive tasks that require no variation. What happens when there's a spill? Who's gonna clean the machines? Who's gonna restock the supplies? Who's gonna order more pickles and keep track of expiration dates? Sure, you can replace a line cook with a robot. But that robot is gonna be expensive as fuck to purchase and maintain, and it won't be able to do half the things a line cook can. It'll be cheaper/easier/less of a PITA just to have a line cook there. And you're still gonna need somebody to do prep unless you're using all specially packaged shit, which will come at a premium, taste like ass, and still most likely require somebody to open it and feed it into the machine.
>i make 15.50 working in the ER as an EMT on weekends+night shift
>McCucks want 15/hr
fucking kill me
>>27721375
>>27721406
>>27721517
it's clear he didn't even make the picture you dumbfucks, you understood what was meant by it and it doesn't make the point any less valid
>>27721544
That doesn't make the
>maturity leave
any less funny.
Stop getting so worked up. Change your tampon you whiny bitch
>>27721497
Why not automate them if you can? Don't hold back tech progress.
It's more bullshit to make up unnecessary jobs just to pay people to keep capitalism and wageslavery going. When we do automate things properly, then they can introduceuniversal basic income.
>>27721540
>They're only good for repetitive tasks that require no variation.
this is plain not true
>What happens when there's a spill? Who's gonna clean the machines? Who's gonna restock the supplies?
see >>27721475
>Who's gonna order more pickles and keep track of expiration dates?
machines can do this on their own, in some places this task is already entirely automated
>it actually fucking says maturity leave
>>27721400
>cooking staff
http://time.com/3819525/robot-chef-moley-robotics/
>drive thru cashiers
Cash will be a thing of the past. It's much easier to have a bank card and swipe it. It'll be better once we get the illuminati to plant chips into everyone that we only have to swipe our hand.
>for the tech illiterate old people.
Those people should learn to keep up with the times or fuck off. I like my ancient tech as much as any other nostslgic cuck, but do they think the world shouldn't evolve and grow? That's deluded as fuck.
>>27721564
I'm not saying it isn't hilarious, I'm saying you can't disregard facts because someone fucked up a word
>>27721357
>never call in sick
what is crashes and glitches
>>27721540
A machine does not fuck up. It wouldn't spill. It would keep perfect count of all supplies all the time and would put in an automatic order when supplies run low.
>>27721357
>working in mcfast food
Top kek
Machines won't be used to completely run anything, especially not fast food, for a long time.
The reason why is simple. Overhead costs and maintenance.
It's more expensive for them to use machines to run a restaurant than it is to cycle through new employees every few months and never give anyone a raise. Fully automated machines require constant maintenance, and mechanics who can work on them aren't cheap. The parts to repair them aren't cheap. Day to day upkeep isn't cheap. It's not economical.
>>27721575
>You can automate a mcdonalds
>Mcdonalds/fast food garbage is only restaurant in country
You're a retard. You have no real world experience. You are just posting this shit for the sake of getting a rise out of people.
Fuck this thread. I'm out.
>>27721467
The staff?
>>27721666
you still haven't posted a valid rebuttal to anything anyone's said, faggot
>>27721648
the overhead costs will be a lot fucking easier to swallow if otherwise you have to pay $15/hr for an untrained asshole who's in high school
>>27721541
You're safe mate. Burger flipping will be automated within a couple years. EMS is safe for another couple of decades.
>>27721601
Are you retarded? Where did they say they disregarded the fact? They're laughing at the mistake, not disregarding the facts you mongoloid bitch
>>27721702
Machines that could do all of the work in a restaurant by themselves would cost in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars and require constant maintenance. It isn't feasible right now until technology advances further.
>>27721692
yes, those dumb niggers, high school burnouts, and other worthless losers are so terrifying to robbers and that is why they don't rob Micky Ds
wanna how know the automated burger shops keep from getting robbed? the same way ATMs do it. keep the money in a lock box inside the metal machine. good luck busting into that in a timely manner that doesn't ruin the money inside.
>>27721692
>implying the staff would do anything if a robber came in
yeah boii im gonna risk my life protecting a massive enterprise that dont give a shit about me and paying me shit wages
ITT: Deluded wagecucks getting epically BTFO.
Bumping for more wageys to be btfo
>>27721740
They don't have to do all the work, just take orders and make food from a list of bullshit on the menu
it's not hard at all, and wouldn't be very expensive to build one of these machines. Even with maintenance, they'd be cheaper than paying a bunch of fucktards $15/hr to run your restaurant 24/7
>b...b..but robots can't take muh job!!
Wagie tears are delicious.
>>27721957
That is all the work anon. I make these type of machines for a living. They are not cheap to maintain or build.
ITT: scumbags celebrate other people's misfortune and hardship
>>27721357
This doesn't have anything to do with my job. I'm not ignorant, unskilled or uneducated.
I agree that many jobs that only require low skill labor will be done my computers sometime soon.
>>27722113
>That is all the work anon.
uh, no. there's cleaning shit, maintenance and a few other small jobs. easily covered by a handful of people
if you really made that kind of shit, you'd know how fucking cheap it can be done.
>>27721443
that's because it is an option to go to collage for a subject that will never lead to a career that will allow you to pay for that education.
>>27722133
>MUH VALUE IN HARD WORK
Would you wagecucks stop saying this shit? My sides can't take this laughter anymore!
>>27722156
what was that you were saying?
original4357476
>>27721357
My mc-crap job was way harder than my QC Chemist job that pays 45k a year right now. I also rely way more on computers than I did working at Mcdonalds because I actually had to talk to people ,clean, and "cook" all these things that couldn't be done solely on machines. I think people in STEM shouldn't be so quick to judge and point the finger when they are right at the brink of automation themselves with there huge salaries being way more of an incentive for big corp's to change, than cheap mc-shit jobs.
>>27722236
I don't know why you think brick-laying would be my job, since I said I'm not uneducated. I'm a teacher.
>>27721357
>maturity leave
It's funny until it happens to you. We need to set a precedent that people whose jobs are taken by robots are taken care of, because it's not going to slow down.
>never call in sick
The equivalent would be the shit malfunctioning/breaking
>never cause problems at work
The simple fact that these things aren't adaptive is problem enough
>"maturity" leave
this is just the poor people shouldn't get pregnant eugenics meme
>and don't offend the customer with my idiocy
what does this even mean
There's a reason why people never speak positively about interacting with any automated call support service. Automation is shitty.
>>27721357
Good thing I make 45 an hour.
>>27722204
I do make this kind of shit. It can be done "cheaply" but when it comes to cheap and automated machines it's not worth the cost. Cheap machines are cheap for a reason. They are easily damaged, imprecise, slow, and are just hazardous in general. The cost of maintaining a cheap machine outweighs the initial cost of a more expensive one in a few years, and they both cost more than employing some mooks for anything under $20 an hour.
It's not feasible right now. Maybe in 10-20 years.
>>27722259
I prefer doing work with an automated machine. People scare me.
>>27722212
There are more people than jobs. Unemployment is a societal failing, not a personal one. Also,
>collage
>>27722259
This robot gets it.
Robots are shit at being human.
>>27721648
Machines making food hasn't been a thing until more recently because of lack of fine motor control and so on. It's entirely possible and likely that we'll see robots making food within the next 10 years.
Self-serve checkouts becoming the norm is only about 10 years old or so, isn't it? Look how they've taken off. I'm in Australia and my local supermarket went from 6 self-checkouts to 16 earlier this year, and this is a very backwards neighbourhood.
I'm glad to see the Staceys and middle-aged married women at risk of losing their jobs to programmers and developers who are mostly male, though I suppose they'll just ramp up the "give us free jobs" moaning for the tech industry.
>wagecucks throw entire their lives away by being slaves just so that they can afford housing and food.
No wonder you Americans are so religious, the reality that you only have one life and is wasting it by being slaves is far too depressing for you to handle
>>27722352
I want to travel the world instead of work. How do I do this with no money?
>>27722352
>>27722320
Want to try again, eurocuck? Get your English dictionary out yet?
>>27722361
Hitchhike, it's the only way really.
Raise minimum wage
>spend incredible amount of money to automate entire business only to get a return on investment years down the line
>raise price on goods/services to cover cost and throw a little extra on top for myself, then blame high prices on the gov
Pick one.
It's like you guys have never run a business before.
>>27722365
Suck mycock.
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>>27721648
Not yet it isn't. Robots are only going to get cheaper.
>>27721426
and we will approach 50% unemployment thanks to automation, so there wont be enough people that can afford to eat at mcdonalds.
>>27721357
Why are non-rich people against minimum wage?
>>27722481
>Temporarily embarrassed millionares
>>27722481
they are dumb duh.
>Spend 4-6 years to get a degree
>Gets replaced by a robot a few years after graduating
>Forced to take a shitty minimum wage job
>Have children
>Repeat
Life of the wagecuck
>>27722481
why are people against higher wages for everyone???
you can't have a topic that discusses higher wages without greed, entitlement and envy sending everyone into a frothy mouthed shit storm.
it's stupid man, we're never going to get ahead because people don't want other people getting ahead, simple as that.
>>27722282
Machines are expensive, sure, but it's about the speed and mass production. A lot of factories are fully automated, even with the high cost of machines, because they can make a lot of stuff very quickly.
Perhaps automation isn't the sort of thing you would do to that smaller mcdonalds out on the highway or on a lesser high-street in the outskirts of the city, but it would work well in a very busy one in a city centre that has dozens of customers coming in constantly.
People walk away from those places when they see the line is too long. If you could automate it then you could serve customers fast enough so you wouldn't get long lines. Then you could have even more customers.
Maybe. What the fuck do I know.
>>27722481
>Why are humans against free stuff for everyone
Dude economics lmao
>>27722502
This.
We're all going to become rich, some day. We're all just waiting for that chance to make it big. And when we do, we don't want silly things like workers rights eating into our fortunes.
>>27722282
are you actually saying that a mcburger machine needs to be precise?
9 times out of 10 whatever high school dropout slapped that shit together fucked it up somehow, a machine couldn't do a worse job
>>27722361
I know people who have traveled around the world for decades. Of course they have to work randomly but when you dont own anything you wont need that much money. You wont be flying on first class and sleeping in five star hotels but if you really want to travel it can be done.
>>27722547
"Temporarily embarrassed millionaire" is the equivalence of calling a black person "uncle Tom".
>>27722481
I'm not necessarily against it, but it's rude to imply that those who imply it are somehow 'would be oppressors'.
Just consider this - the class that benefits the most from a minimum wage would be females, especially roastie types. The males on this board won't even be getting those jobs, in fact if anything it would decrease the number of jobs - while stacey the starbcuks barista will be earning more.
>everyone who works is in a mcjob
when will this meme end?
>>27722524
The reason the lines get so long is because of how long it takes to prepare the meal. The time it takes wouldn't be cut down by much if a machine ran it, because it will take the same time to cook. It isn't worth it right now. In the future, perhaps.
>>27722553
Yeah I'm saying a mcburger machine would need to be precise. Unless you want it fucking everything up. There's a lot more to a machine that would put a burger together for human consumption than you know about. If you're uneducated about how machinery works, don't bother responding.
>>27722905
it just needs to slap together 2 buns, a patty and some fuckin lettuce/pickles
as long as they're all stacked in proper order(which wouldn't be a problem fuckwit), and the machine is sanitary, then it'd be easy as piss
>>27722944
Go ahead and design a machine that can do that. It isn't easy.
It has to do everything exactly the same every time, or it will eventually deviate away from putting the burger together right. You have no idea what you're talking about, and it's painfully obvious.
>>27722481
they don't understand the economy
A high minimum wage is good for the economy, it keeps money in the system. once a rich person gets money it is effectively removed from the system and added to their hoard. now, you raise the minimum wage then they can increase prices to make up for it, but their competitors will take a lower profit and keep prices the same and drive them out of business.
Then you have people who work at food places going out for food regulary, feeding more money into the system, the internal service economy grows.
Western civilization is built on a strong middle class, many rich people do not understand this and don't care about anything but increasing their own bank account
>>27722993
>It has to do everything exactly the same every time, or it will eventually deviate away from putting the burger together right.
except it doesn't and proper programming can take care of this
I'd design a machine to do this, and it'd probably take me a few days to a week to do so, but the thread would be over by then. If you can't easily think of a system for how it would operate, you may be functionally retarded.
Most industrial systems are almost completely automated and they involve highly complex programming procedures, programming a fucking automated grill to slide patties onto a bun would be easy as fuck to do
>>27722875
>it will take the same time to cook
Shit, that's a good point. I'm a retard for forgetting that. Doesn't matter how fast you can cut a potato, it'll still take time to cook.
>15 an hour
>ever so much money
Fucking crabs in a bucket. I saw someone posting about this on normiebook bitching that cops only make like 18 dollars an hour.
Hamburger flippers contribute far more to society than pigs. Literal pigs contribute more to the world than cops.
>>27723049
a high minimum wage, without increasing all other wages equally, will lead the devalue of work, and even increasing ALL wages, would cause jobs to leave the country to a place where it can be done cheaper. What needs to be done isn't increase wages, but to increase the value of work and the value of the dollar, driving down prices and driving up the standard of living
>>27723055
Tell me what a single thing in this image is or shut the fuck up.
Yes of course it's easy to do! But guess what? The result is not going to be any better or even equivalent to just hiring some random nigger off the street. I'm not saying it's impossible to do, it has been done. I'm saying it's not economically viable.
How would the machine move the patties from the grill to the bun? How does it move the top of the bun onto the finished burger? How would it measure how much of a condiment it has placed? There's too many variables for it to be reasonable.
Sure, you can use high tech (expensive) sensors and timers and pressure gauges to determine all these things, but guess what? You can pay someone almost nothing, and they'll do the job just as well.
And guess what? When a machine fucks up, there goes the entire day's profits. When some mong doesn't show up, oh well, have the cashier do two jobs.
but these machines are expensive initially and require programming for them
im ok with that since I'm at the software engineering side of things
Boomers will never use touch screens to serve themselves, they barely have the mental capacity to breathe.
holy shit what a poorly made image macro
>white text over parts of the photo
>call people morons with typos in the text
>watermark RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE as if someone would want to steal it
also someone has to repair those things. They aren't like the shitty n64 stations in the play area that the staff never fixes, they're an integral part of the system that requires constant maintenance. And heaven help you if they don't work or the customer doesn't know how to use it because tech support is leagues more awful than burger flipping (though it does usually pay better!).
ITT: retardation
The problem isn't designing the machinery. It's making it affordable and completely reliable, and then having people there that can quickly troubleshoot it when it goes wrong. It would also require construction and modification to every McDonald's. There's also legal bullshit to sort through.
There's no way a company as experienced as McDonald's would be dumb enough to roll this out all at once anyway. There'd be a few test locations, then a few more, then some more, until in maybe in 6-10 years, every McDonald's is a robo McDonald's, and a few locations have been shutdown and new ones brought in.
And do you think gubbments are gonna be eager to just have this new, giant group of unemployed people to deal with on public rolls? Do you think they might not add a little resistance to the corporate effort?
There's going to have to be some inflation injected in the form of higher low-end wages for personal debt to be taken care of in the US anyway, at some point, unless they're willing to let things actually break down.
Maybe people only making 15 dollars an hour should be pissed off their job requires so much and only pays them 15 fucking dollars an hour. Will prices go up? Sure. That's inflation. Is it a 1:1 transition? Of course not, you fucking retards.
>A rising tide raises all boats
>but only if it's rich people raising the water; demand side economics don't mean anything! All the evidence to the contrary is wrong!
>>27723161
>Tell me what a single thing in this image is or shut the fuck up.
I see an electrical cable :^)
You don't need sensors, gauges or any of that shit. A timer will easily suffice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-JR2KDRnEY&nohtml5=False
keep in mind this is needlessly expensive and a tech demo. the job can be done in a much simpler fashion and much cheaper, and if you couldn't even have a rough idea of how it could be done cheaply, you might as well be fucking mentally handicapped
>>27723310
Good job. You've proven that you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Timers don't easily suffice. You have no actual experience with designing, fabricating or operating machinery.
>>27723085
That only works when most of your population isn't already in tremendous debt, or when your economy isn't part of a global one, or when banks don't make loans based on other loans.
Why do you think a high minimum wage wouldn't lead to higher wages everywhere else anyway? It's not just an automatic switch, but all wages would eventually go up; if a position is truly just bullshit, maybe it'll get axed altogether instead.
And again, America runs on debt. Inflate or break is all it can do at this point.
is everybody supposed to go into a stem feild then? thats not possible, if machines replace all the min wage jobs, wouldnt we have huge amounts of homeless people because of it?
everyone in this thread is extremely retarded
if mcdonalds or any other super rich multinational corporation could replace workers with machines they would have done it already regardless of the minimum wage. Fast food jobs aren't union protected or anything, they're under no obligation to hire people. The fact they haven't means it's not feasible at the current level of technology, or that it isn't profitable in the long run.
Like the entire argument is retarded anyway. As if a corporation needs a minimum wage increase as an excuse to fuck workers over. 'Bow to your corporate master you privileged shitlord' is never a good way to win people to your side of a debate.
>>27723085
>increase the value of work
sounds pretty vague
>>27722517
it always seems like theyre against it becuase they have some sort of weird petty resentment of the people working these jobs.
>>27722352
Yes, because having no money and being homeless is a far better experience.
Not everyone here is a kid living with parents or living in a welfare state like Demark. I'd really love to repulsive spoiled brats like you kicked out of house and home. You're the sort of person I'd piss all over if I saw you living in an alleyway.
>>27722256
that too can be automated. fuck, kids'll probably like the pc more than a person anyway.
>>27723366
Bro, nobody is supposed to be anything. Automation WILL replace everything eventually, including the designing and building of superior machines.
The last things to go will be politicians and judges, because citizcucks will be afraid of letting a machine determine punishments and policy, even though they'd probably do a better job.
The end plan is that you get shoved aside and get to deal with it.
>REEEE AUTOMATION IS TOO HARD FOR OUR TINY MINDS
Have you never ordered from Sheetz? The entire order taking process is automated. This tech has existed for 10 years. Obviously the future is not having to see the service industry at work.
>cooks implying they cant be replaced by the cookinator 3000
This isnt even a bad thing, it just shows how stupid you are when youre afraid of it being a reality.
>>27721544
Look how much anger the pathetic NEET has when shown that he might just be on the wrong side of an argument.
Go outside, get a feel of the real world you little insignificant loser
>>27723342
>Timers don't easily suffice.
it's a FUCKING BURGER
it's not a piece of complex machinery, or an automotive frame. It's a piece of frozen fucking ground beef, shipped in bigass boxes, that merely needs to be cooked and slapped onto a fucking bun. A machine could EASILY do this with just a heat sensor and a timer.
You've not made one valid claim as to why any of this wouldn't work other than 'hurr durr u dont know!!'
>>27721497
Bernie plz go reeeeeee
Conservacucks, if you love and worship your employer so much, why don't you accept cum as payment or accept payment at all?
>>27723461
>getting mad at someone pointing out the truth instead of being mad that at the people who turned you into a slave
And for the record, I'm not him, and I'd still rather be homeless and without any money than wagecuck at a fast food joint for any serious length of time.
At least if you're homeless, there's a chance you'll pick up some sort of marketable skill eventually. There's also a chance of death, which tends to be superior to being an unhappy slave.
Fun fact: Panhandlers tend to make a LOT more than a minimum wagecuck.
Oh, look, another "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" thread.
Do conservacucks realize how pathetic they are?
>machinest can do jobs better than humans, so the machines take over these jobs
>not a good thing
I honestly don't see the problem with mass unemployment as long as we can distribute the money saved by using these machines to those who are unemployed. Robots taking over our jobs is inevitable, so we need to figure out how we can sustain the earth's population once this happens. If we continue to use this current capitalist system (at least in developed countries), about half the population is going to be completely fucked fifty years from now.
>>27723310
>You don't need sensors
Jesus fucking christ, stay in school you braindead teenager.
>>27723543
oh look, another 'T-there's no way a machine could ever replace me!!' poster
>>27723497
You're ignoring that if they fully automated a McDonald's there would be more going on that just cooking a single burger patty, and all the machines doing these various tasks would need to be on the same page. There's need for a lot more than a heat sensor and timers.
You really just don't know what you're talking about at all. Don't get so worked up over it, go read a book.
>>27723497
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about you dumb kid so shut the fuck up and go finish your homework.
>>27723562
Oh look, another useless faggot who is on welfare who thinks they're entitled to an opinion
>>27723550
Check it out guys, someone who actually gets what the real problem is.
>>27723579
>insults conservatives
>claims I'm on welfare
Are you actually mentally retarded?
>>27723577
I'm gonna be around this week and maybe show me around Bahrain the fuck is going on right now they're doing anything today? I don't think I might be a huge fucking degenerate into the other hand I was gonna be that video before I clicked it was pretty Reddit is that good for the entire family is going on right now they're playing every episode of season finale was gonna get home in like an hour.
>>27723523
>and I'd still rather be homeless
No you wouldn't.
You're spoiled child who would be able to handle living without Internet.
Don't talk shit when you have no life experience.
>>27723599
Life experience is a meme, dumbass.
>>27723562
>>27723562
Did I say that?
The message implied was that we should bend over for our employers and accept less than adequate wages.
I'm all for automation. It's a historical fact that it has always improved the quality of life. As technology advances, making jobs easier or redundant with machines capable of doing them, people are freed up to explore new avenues. People were afraid of assembly lines and machinery during the Industrial Age, but because of those advances we have much more comfortable lives now.
>>27723573
>>27723577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_fSP3LGw8&nohtml5=False
>360 burgers/hr
better start college applications, wagies
>>27723653
How much does the machine cost?
You underestimate the patience that an average fast food goer has. They do not want to deal with a machine unless it works flawlessly and those machines do not. The touch screens are laggy and the interface is clunky. They also handle coupons poorly.
>>27721613
Yeah, that's not true. When I worked in a meat factory, there was a robot arm in a plastic box that had suckers on the end of it. It would reach over, press down on 4 packs of meatballs, lift them up and put them down on the other side. Once, one of the meat ball packs fell off and landed in its path. It whacked the packet of meatballs, and just kept ignoring it and knocking it all over the place until the pack opened and it was flinging mince meat everywhere, all over its box.
>>27723592
Go to school, Timmy.
>>27723693
once in mass production, easily cheaper than paying a fuckload of teenagers $15/hr
>>27723708
the largest chunk of welfare recipients are impoverished blacks, who also, unsurprisingly, vote democrat so they can get more government benefits
>>27723706
Keep in mind that anyone disagreeing and saying that machines would work perfectly and never mess up is more than likely a NEET, underage, or has never been near anything mechanically complex.
>>27723706
Maybe that machine just decided it had enough of being a slave. It was imagining that pack of meatballs to be a human skull.
>>27723743
The largest chunk of wellfare recipients are single white mothers
>>27723753
isn't the most common political leaning of single white moms also democrat?
>>27723715
So you don't know how much it costs? Why did you bother posting at all?
>>27723586
>implying anyone on /r9k/ cares about the real problem
>implying they don't just want to argue amongst themselves so they feel smart
Anyways, posting a related "le stick figure" YouTube pop science man" video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
>Tfw working only 14 days per month
>being grossly overpaid (11 eur/hr)
>working only at night, so no getting up early
>no boss behind my ass, sitting in a comfy office with flowers and shit
>bring my notebook or play my old console on the tv from the couch while on my shift
>unlimited coffee and ice tea from the kitchen
Hmm, being a wagecuck kinda works for me.
>>27723773
Not really, single mothers don't primarily vote democrat
>>27723775
of course I don't know how much a machine that hasn't been implemented or mass produced yet costs you fucking idiot
individual unit cost is probably high but mass production would drive it down a shitload
>>27721357
Even if everyone had a doctor in every field you would still need people to do low paying shitty jobs like cleaning or retail and shit
Fuck people that don't appreciate every job
>>27723814
>MASS PRODUCTION WILL FIX EVERYTHING
Go to school, kid.
>>27723745
Machines do not make mistakes. Human makes mistakes. That's why it's called "human error". You never hear anyone ever say "superior machine error", do you.
>>27721503
That's considered a typo you retard
>more jobs becoming automated
>wealth isn't distributed so that nobody has to work again
>jews take all the profits
>>27723842
Machines don't make mistakes, but hardware fails
>>27721590
that robot chef would cost more to maintain and it's not even necessary for fast food prep. most of fast food cooking is actually automated already. good customer service is the only thing robots can't do yet, and for the cleaning and organizing and wrapping and all that, humans at min wage are far more reliable throughout the day.
i can't believe how fucking retarded people are about machines. there will never be a shortage of unskilled positions. adults shouldn't expect adult paychecks when they work like children, but automation is the last fucking thing you should ever worry about in this situation. There are literally tens of millions of people who could replace you with fewer demands and better results.
>>27723830
did I ever say that? I said it would decrease the individual unit cost, which is true.It's spring break where I live :^)
>>27723823
how are they going to continue working those jobs if they cant make enough money to keep a roof over thier heads?
>>27723854
>A typographical error (often shortened to typo) is a mistake made in the typing process (such as a spelling mistake) of printed material. Historically, this referred to mistakes in manual type-setting (typography).
Putting in a completely different word is not a typo
>>27723858
This
Universal salary
WHEN??
>>27723814
There would be no point in mass producing them. It'd be fixed level production at most, because burger restaurants aren't some exponentially growing thing. Just stop trying. It isn't feasible and won't be for 10-20 years, just like I said earlier.
>>27723842
Machines don't make mistakes, but they can't reliably adapt to their environment unless they are designed to. The amount of fail-safes required to make a machine designed for flipping burgers would be too much effort.
>>27723891
inna thousand years
>>27723885
By raising minimum wage
>>27723892
buying them would still be cheaper than more than doubling the wages of every worker
once "machines completely automate" fast food, you're gonna have to change it from "fast food" to just "food". that shit is going to take forever.
do the machines have access to the ovens, freezers and refrigerators?
how do the machines make biscuits and mcgriddles and apple pies and cookies?
do they have logistics for the microwaves?
they can prepare the Parfaits, drinks and ice creams too, right?
how do the machines prepare the hotcakes and oatmeal? what if someone asks for oatmeal and fresh cookies, do the cookies fly from a conveyor belt also?
how do the machines prepare and mix the sweet tea, what if the mix for the ice cream and shakes run out??
basically, you would have to completely redesign everything from scratch. how everything is stored, how it's shipped, gathered, positioned, prepared.
the amount of space it would take... Mcdonalds would need to be twice the size it is or you wouldn't be able to eat in the lobby, they'd all be take-out.
>wow, machines can flip burgers
okay let me know when they prepare every single thing on the menu, refill depleted products and can discern between what's fresh and old in case someone asks for fresh food to be made on the spot.
>>27723915
but they dont deserve that.
>>27723920
No, it wouldn't. You're operating on assumptions you've made to support your viewpoint. I'm operating on actual facts. I really hope you aren't going to school for anything that might affect my life, because you are ignorant and incompetent.
>>27723920
in a few areas maybe, but 99.999% of fast food locations will not have the need or the money for tech that doesn't even exist yet to make and hand out happy meals the way people expect.
you know what's easier than investing in DARPA quality robots? just raising the prices a few cents. it's like fucking magic.
>>27723599
I'm already older than you (26). I'm not even a NEET. I've worked in restaurants before, and if I had to do it full-time, I'd straight up just rather live on the fucking street.
I can also go to the library for internet access, you fucking moron.
Not everyone is so eager to be a slave as you. Guess you were just born that way.
>>27723937
you're a stupid person
>>27723938
To "deserve" or "earn" something are both literal social constructs that don't mean anything real.
They're convenient social judgements.
>>27723992
that's the type of reply i expect on this board, in this thread. something with 1 second of thought put into it with no punctuation or grammar, lol.
bravo!
>>27723978
>I can also go to the library for internet access
Yeah, browsing 4chan in a library full of children sounds great. You know they're going to fire up the party van as soon as you walk in the joint, you fucking leech.
>>27723978
you have no clue what you're saying. you're comparing standing in an air conditioned kitchen hanging out with a bunch of kids and immigrants while doing piss easy labor to gaining "marketable skills" by scavenging for food, warmth and internet before sleeping in some tent or whatever. even if you did make more as a bum on average (myth), that honestly sounds less like slavery? don't be edgy to make a point.
>26
ill give you maybe 17. not that other guy but you can't be this clueless in your mid 20s.
Socialists should applaud automation. It means we're getting closer to post scarcity.
>>27724034
It's like you think I need to be on 4chan all day or something.
>>27724054
You've obviously never had a job in your life.
>Air-conditioned kitchen
Pfthahahahahahaha.
Also, be careful about posting your age when you're not 18 yet. There's a reason you guessed that number, clown.
>>27723973
the minimum wage in my state is $7.25. $15/hr is literally more than double that amount.
I could get behind raising it to something like $9/hr, but $15/hr is fucking outrageous
>>27721420
Well for me it's this.
I've got an interview today for a job that pays $13 an hour. To even get the interview I needed two bachelor's degrees.
If fast food workers want $15 an hour for unskilled nonphysical jobs, they're greedy.
>>27724090
>trying this hard
>this reaction to being called underage
pull yourself together fampai
>>27723938
Why would they not deserve it?
>>27721357
>implying this is fool proof
just go to a walmart with a self check out and watch all the idiots as they try to figure out how to work the machines.
>>27724116
It's more like you deserve 26-30 dollars an hour bruh, not that they're evil and greedy.
>>27724106
I completely agree, and because it's mathematically outrageous and not just muh feelings outrageous, it won't happen so suddenly. But the math also rejects any notion that automation will take over those positions. More likely, a lot of locations will just close. In seattle there were plenty of people who were getting fucked in the ass by min wage but most workers were making 11-12 already so it wasn't such a huge leap especially in a very busy city. Doing it statewide just doesn't make sense but if history is any indicator you'll just have higher costs of living and literally nothing would change for the lower class (it would make life shittier for middle though).
Anyway spongebob squarepants robots are decades away from production.
>>27724116
Why are Americans convinced they don't deserve more? It's like you want to be punished. Honestly, the U.S needs to be fucking nuked, it's a cancer on the Earth. You people are straight up fucked in the head.
>>27724166
this.
everyone can't see that all wages are low and that your educational "good for you" papers are skewed in delivering the wages you deserve.
>non-physical job
yeah, the boxes of fries, boxes of hamburger patties, boxes of nuggets and everything just teleports from the freezers to the kitchen and everything just teleports from distribution truck into the Mcdonalds storage.
oh yeah and all the vats and everything all clean themselves and the dishes do themselves, lol.
non-physical. do we know what the word physical means??
>>27721357
>card payment only
That right there ensures it will never work
>>27724116
You are devaluing your degree by going to that interview. I only have an AS right now and I would never work for $13/hour. Right now, I'm getting paid $20/hour.
>>27724241
There are machines that handle cash payment. Just look at a grocery store.
>>27724252
>degree
>hourly wages
>nigga you stupid.
>>27724217
American here.
It really is fucking absurd. I talk to people all the time that act like they deserve to be poor, and that if people made a few more bucks or got a few more breaks that the economy would just fucking implode despite all the evidence to the contrary in pretty much every other modern economy.
The right was very good in building a pseudoreligion during the 70's that convinces these sorts of people that they are morally superior for doing a lot of work for almost no benefit. The real beauty is that people that believe this are so fucking stupid that you kind of enjoy seeing them suffer.
>>27724116
Don't glorify CS and computer engineering degrees bub
>>27724334
Are you retarded? You're not going to get salary with an Associates degree.
>>27724252
>everyone lives in the same region/area and everyone studied the same thing
Come on man. Also, experience is more important than former unicucks like myself want to admit.
>>27724367
In any region of the US, you should not be accepting $13 for a position that requires 2 bachelors degrees unless the degrees are in something retarded like gender studies
>>27724116
one bachelor's degree would have gotten you at least $17
since you have two they know you're a retard and can pay you nothing though lmao
>>27721357
>maturity leave
Are you trying to say "maternity leave?"
>>27721357
But i already get paid 21 dollars after taxes. You are thinking of wageslaves not wagecucks.
>>27724387
Maybe that's what he studied, anon. I doubt he actually NEEDED two degrees anyway; it's probably more like it's a low-paid field and he had to supplement his lack of experience with education, which is likely a rare occurrence at all for whatever he's applying to.
Anon hurry the fuck up and tell us what you studied.
>>27724400
>17 dollars an hour
Where are you getting these random numbers?
>>27724359
Microbiology and Botany B.S. with a Chemistry minor
>>27721357
Something is seriously fucked up with society if you think of machines replacing humans who are doing shitty as fuck jobs as a bad thing.
That should be the end goal. Society is all backwards when layoffs because of robots is met with harsh criticism. The only problem is that all these workers getting cut out by technology only benefits the wealthy owners. We can simply change that and sci-fi utopia here we come!
>>27724337
this guy is a cuckold
>>27724217
everyone acts entitled here to more, especially people who grew up here. it's extremely unpopular to say that unskilled workers should not get a pay bump. it's just that our culture is very competitive and everybody has some set of skills they developed over a lifetime. seeing this sort of issue come up for assholes who coasted through life while the middle class is somewhat struggling compared to 20 years ago, makes people emotional about it. it's not about economics or punishment at all. but again it's fucking unpopular. anyone you talk to will either be indifferent or think that wages should rise at least in wealthy cities where the median salary is like 10 times minimum wage.
as it turns out however, the quality of life even for the poorest of the poor in most states is fucking phenomenal compared to almost any other country. why don't you nuke yourself for being uneducated.
>>27724485
Is it for a lab position? I have a friend who went into biology and now he's mad wagecucking for 14 bucks an hour (despite spending 100k on his degree in loans).
Godspeed anon, you poor bastard. At least microbiology is interesting though.
>>27724337
hahahahaha sitting on my bed laughing my ass off at how absurdly right you are. pic saved.
I'm a musician, why would I go to school to gain knowledge when the only thing of value is action? All you have to do is find the action you're best at.
If you are an unskilled laborer, your action is waiting on/cooking for/cleaning the houses of people who are more useful than you. And fuck if I'm going to do manual labor. If you're me, you're sitting at the piano, in cushy hotels and country clubs, drinking for free. You know, the kind with carpet and ballrooms.
>>27724485
Oh fuck sorry didn't realize you needed a degree to be a horticulturist. Like the one who does maintenance work on my house.
>>27724458
I studied Business Administration. I get paid to sift through teenage applications and listen to workers who have hurt feelings.
>>27724509
This guy right here has never had a job in his life, and only talks to his fellow Uni students.
>>27724523
Yes it's a research assistant position.
I have 8 months experience, but everything asks for a year.
>>27722481
Basically because they don't want to be making minimum wage. If they make $15 already then the last thing they want is for the minimum to be raised to $15. Prices would go up and they wouldn't make any more money.
Most people are kept in that magic place right above minimum wage by their employers for this effect to have the maximum impact.
>tfw when shitposter 3000 put me out of a job
Neo-Luddite revolution when?
>>27724583
How do you have 2 BS degrees and under 1 year of experience?
(Sounds an awful lot like a slow transition to the Venus Project in here.)
>>27724582
>upset that he's a cuck for surrounding himself with other cucks
>>27724509
>the quality of life even for the poorest of the poor in most states is fucking phenomenal compared to almost any other country
I believe you honestly believe this. I don't know what the fuck to tell you. Are you aware of Western Europe and the Commonwealth countries?
>>27724569
Sounds miserable senpai. Do you at least enjoy watching the hurt feelings of teeange girls while they cry?
>>27724620
I'm so glad you're just continuing to prove my point. Can't wait til you graduate in a few years and discover things are even worse than they are today.
I'm sure you'll wow everyone with your GPA and internship though, kiddo.
>>27721400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNy6fEuPWbc
>>27724623
It's actually extremely easy. I spend 90% of my day (like right now) shitposting on 4chan or playing video games. The teenage girls are hilarious. Two girls ended up having a blood feud because one girl complimented the other and the chick took the compliment as a sarcastic insult. The look on their faces when I fired them both was great
>>27724603
I did both degrees at once, in 3.5 years. I got a research position in my last year (my P.I. says they will credit me with authorship when the paper gets published) I didn't get a chance to work on highschool because I was on a visa at a British school.
>>27724621
are you aware of what you're trying to say here?
>>27724719
>are you aware of what you're trying to say here?
Yes. So go ahead and answer.
>>27724711
Having less that one year of experience in 3.5 years of schooling is unacceptable. No wonder you're getting a cuck salary
>>27721357
Ah yes, shitting on poor people. What a kind, Christian thing to do. Jesus would be totes proud.
>>27724621
are you aware the only reason their quality of life is considered better is because they socialize the shit out of everything, and that in 20 years this will all come falling down on them?
>>27724657
friend you insulted yourself by saying you talk to people who want to be poor all the time. that only says that you have to be poor or scraping the bottom at your "job." what have i said that implies anything about my lifestyle? that it's a popular opinion to raise wages? i've been employed for 10 years and nobody i have ever met didn't expect their salary to grow.
>>27721475
>i just know about automation from the internet :)
>>27724738
Yes. Nice try i guess. look it up.
>>27724719
Are you?
It's pretty pathetic that you think comparing the US to third-world nations and ignoring the rest of the developed world to support your idea that "poor people have it great in the US" is somehow acceptable.
>>27724758
Well at least I'll have a full year soon, because I'm getting the job today.
>>27724770
>i've been employed for 10 years and nobody i have ever met didn't expect their salary to grow
Oh I'm sure you have. Doing what?It's pretty obvious you're not even in your 20's yet.
>>27724799
>pathetic to compare the US to the world except a handful of countries that emulated the US successfully
>let me ignore billions of people just because i'm smart
if i didn't say anything you would have probably made a retarded post about how the US is third world though, faggot.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/#2db02b9523c4
>>27721375
Took me a good 5 minutes to figure out what everyone was laughing about. Oh, right, maternity, because normies have sex and have kids. Forgot all about that. xD
It's not even funny tho. It's just a typo. All that fuss for nothing.
>>27724790
I fucking hate these faggots. Never actually worked a single day in their lifes or had anything to do with machines but muuhh automation.
>>27724834
>Accuses an anon of racing to the bottom by consorting with morons
>hurries to compared America to nations that don't even have a fraction of its wealth
Bro, it's time to stop embarrassing yourself. I almost feel bad for you.
>>27724828
fast food 16-19, tutor 20-22, quality manager and research in labs from there.
>i must troll anyone who says people expect better wages
I'm staunchly pro-capitalism because it is the most moral and efficient method of organizing a society. But it's clear that the advancement of technology and the rapid growth of the world population is quickly making much of capitalism out-dated. "Entry-level" barely even exists anymore.
>>27723888
It's still a typo you fucking brazillian
>>27724886
>Moral and efficient
lol
Socialism is far more "moral" and as you've just proven, it's not very efficient anymore.
>>27724866
how does this defend the notion that americans do a lot of work for no benefit and feel they deserve to be poor?
what is even your point? that despite the already great quality of life under the poverty line here, it should be way better? sure i guess, everyone should live better. people will complain regardless, that part doesn't change.
>>27724972
>socialism is far more moral.
Straight up dumbass
>>27724953
It literally is not a typo. The error was made when choosing the word, not typing the word.
>>27725036
No, it's a typo. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>27725032
How isn't it more moral?Granted, this entire conversation is retarded because morality is subjective and has no a priori criteria; I assume you mean capitalism is more "fair" which is frequently proven untrue given that luck and circumstance is a massive component of who gets rewarded the most richly
>>27725000
Americans provide value to their employer. Everyone else is a leech.
>>27725059
You don't know what typo means. Explain how choosing the word maturity over maternity is a typography error. You can't
>>27725087
It's a typography error. There I just explained it to you. Now get off the computer, brazil.
>>27725120
>I don't know what a typo is
>I don't know what an explanation is
Sad 2bh
>>27725062
You know what man, that post was so retarded, that I'm not even gonna bother. Just kill yourself I guess.
>>27721357
I'm allergic to mayo and sesame seeds and these have no option to make alterations to things I want to eat. They should also have a robot that checks my order is correct. To clarify not a wagecuck robot, just a machine
>>27725136
Yes, you are quite a sad person. You don't understand what a typo I'd and can't explain it. Pass English class next semester.
>>27725084
you would have been closer if you said immigrants add value to america, and everyone else is a leech.
>>27724972
Socialism isn't more moral because it strips away an individual's freedom for the collective's benefit. That benefit is wholly determined by an elite class, rather than an equilibrium of competing, self-determined interests in a capitalist society.
>>27724972
Capitalism is moral and efficient in that it kills off those who don't deserve to live. Wagecucks are scum with no skills or ambition to become skilled. The rules are clear and meant be be followed: make something of yourself with the time you are given or get fucked.
>>27725171
>I was proven wrong so all I can do is shitpost
Sad 2bh
>>27722517
Believe it or not blanket high pay has a lot of negatives that can outweigh the benefits. Higher minimum wages hurts small businesses profitability like you wouldn't believe and can drive them out. That creates less jobs over all and less options for the consumer. Giving more power to corporations to in turn raise the amount of $ required for a good standard of life and you're stuck right back where you were to begin with.
Money is not infinite. Giving yourself more money means that someone else somewhere gets less, there is no "everyone gets more" situation.
>customer orders something with no bun
>customer orders a custom wrap
i wonder what the machine would do. a cooked pattie would just fly out of a slot at your face and you could catch it with your teeth i guess.
>>27725197
Yes, that is what you're doing. I proved you wrong and you're butthurt about it. Now get off the computer, brazil.
>>27725240
>I was proven wrong so all I can do is shitpost
>I have an unhealthy infatuation with Brazil
sad 2bh
>>27725203
oh my god are you reading shit from a text book?
how about wages just scale with profits? right now Walmart wages do not scale with profits, why?
>pretending to care about small business
i bet you have some moral lecture cooked up for this one too, huh?
>>27725221
Machines are as versatile as you design them to be
People think
>durr a machine can't be as versatile they can only do assembly line
Because thus far it's mostly assembly lines that have been completely automated. You don't need to program a machine to have a bunch of different options when it's putting caps on toothpaste tubes.
>>27725253
Still haven't proven that it isn't a typo. Wouldn't expect much of a redditor from Brazil tho
>>27725253
>I was proven wrong so all I can do is shitpost
>I have an unhealthy infatuation with Brazil and Reddit
Sad 2bh
>>27725221
You'd probably just program it to skip a step or put different ingredients into the wrap.
Programmers are pretty clever, m8. They can make a machine do some pretty complex tasks.
>>27725321
>can't even quote right
Thanks for proving my redditor point.
How does it feel that the sex industry will be fully automated before mcdonalds?
>>27725349
>I literally cannot live without mentioning reddit once a minute
Sad 2bh
>>27725329
>people in labs with perfect conditions can do some pretty clever stuff
so much idealism and naivete in here.
>>27725292
>how about wages just scale with profits?
That's retarded.
An employer takes on the financial risk. He reaps the benefit of the good times and pays the price of the bad times.
An employee (typically) does not take on any of this risk. They are paid a steady wage, giving them financial security regardless of how well the business is doing.
Go ahead and start your own business. Promise your employees their wages will rise as profits rise. Most businesses don't even break even until they've been running for half a year. Good luck getting employees that will work for free until then.
>>27725143
>you know what man, I'm way too dumb to make a convincing response, so I'll just tell you to kill yourself
Fixed that for you retard.
>>27725367
>this butthurt about being exposed for a redditor
>this much damage control when proven wrong
>>27725395
>l literally cannot live without mentioning reddit once a minute
Sad 2bh
>>27721357
Not that I think a $15 minimum wage today is a good idea but if anyone seriously thought that this type of automation wouldn't have happened in the same amount of time regardless then they are fundamentally retarded. $0 an hour is cheaper than $10, or $9, or whatever the minimum wage is.
Either way, go and do some research and you'll find plenty of sources that will tell you minimum wage increases do cause unemployment and plenty of sources that will tell you minimum wage increases don't cause unemployment.
On a related note, here's this:
https://www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/mythbuster
>Myth: Increasing the minimum wage will cause people to lose their jobs.
>In a letter to President Obama and congressional leaders urging a minimum wage increase, more than 600 economists, including 7 Nobel Prize winners wrote, "In recent years there have been important developments in the academic literature on the effect of increases in the minimum wage on employment, with the weight of evidence now showing that increases in the minimum wage have had little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers, even during times of weakness in the labor market. Research suggests that a minimum-wage increase could have a small stimulative effect on the economy as low-wage workers spend their additional earnings, raising demand and job growth, and providing some help on the jobs front.
>>27725374
>An employer takes on the financial risk.
>implying there is risk to be taken in a "capitalist" economy in 2016
>>27725378
>socialist
We all see who the real retard here is
>>27725374
you took my words out of context. i was talking about Walmart's profit scaling.
i wish one day i could talk to someone who thought they were intelligent, but also didn't indent every sentence like what they were saying is actually important.
i'm sure you know a lot about what you're talking about and all that.
>>27725192
the others arent very great by themselves either. but theres nothing wrong with a little socialism.
>>27725406
I just arrived in this thread what's happening here
>>27725406
>this butthurt when someone tells him he's a redditor
Geez I wonder why
>>27725450
>l Iiterally cannot live without mentioning reddit once a minute
Sad 2bh
>>27725441
the guy repeating "sad2bh" thinks he proved the other guy wrong because of a gray area in semantics.
really they're both right and arguing for no reason, they have a crush on each other is all i can guess.
>>27725441
This guy doesn't know what a typo is
>>27721357
>I never call in sick
Except when it breaks or there's a black out and the things need to be restarted. Might even cost more to keep replacing these things.
>Never cause problems
Workers probably don't cause problems either but Im pretty sure faggots are still gonna complain and talk shit to the managers
> maturity leave
I'm not sure if they even give maternity leave at Mcdonald's pretty much at that point people are already looking for some other kind of stable job(No job is stable btw that's just a made up term)
>Don't offend the customer with my idiocy
Customers always a moron Anon never forget.
>>27725292
1. walmarts profit margins are such that it wouldn't make a big difference to most of their employees
2. small business is where america excels, read a book
3. corporate greed memes aside, there is far more money from those profits going back into the company or the economy in general than is being held in some offshore account. if they were systematically ineffective with this money they would have never succeeded in the first place, or they would be quickly replaced by the competition.
4. don't overestimate just how much you would all gain if you just slaughtered the tippy top 1%. history is full of examples where "the people" took over and guess what, some other asshole just picks up the pieces and everyone is back where they started. people are shit with money. give walmart employees $5 more an hour, and they'll be $7 more in debt.
>>27725456
>this butthurt
>this damage control
>>27721357
im confused at this image.
if a company is going to implement a machine to do a job, what does it matter what the employees were going to be paid?
15
10
5 an hour.
the amount doesn't matter if you can use a machine and not pay them.
its just what was going to happen anyway.
>>27725414
t. Never met a small business owner
>>27725195
>capitalism is moral
>it kills off those who don't deserve to live
>kills
>moral
>deserve
>implying
The best part is that this was typed by a high school or college student. In fact, by that reasoning, communism is the most moral because it literally murders useless people. Russia actually did some great things under its vicious communist control, like visit space and develop nuclear reactors, too. What are they doing now? Getting completely cucked by NATO and cornering the market on bad white-people rap?
>>27725062
>morality is subjective
You've learned well son, a true 21st century cadet. Now that you've discovered there is no such thing as morality, why are you wasting your time here? Why not transcend reality entirely? There's nothing holding you back now.
>>27725493
i see why you're on r9k. it's impossible for you to say a positive thing.
i'd rather go read a book than read your replies, holy shit. i'll take you up on your advice.
>point #4, saying "you all" like you're above everyone
i would put you out of your own misery if i could, anon, it's okay. :(
>>27721426
I can imagine the line cook machine bot fucking up and spitting out a bunch of burgers and niggers running to steal as much as they can before some fucktard actually finds the time to go and fix the machine.
>>27725506
Sure, but it would happen overnight at $100/hour
>>27725523
Small business owners are cucks that didn't have a good enough idea or model to start a corp and get a fuckton of stockholder money to create a real business.
Why do people give a shit about muh small business so much anyway? They almost always provide crappier services at higher prices but because muh local community and muh jews you idiots hand them your cash anyway.
>>27725441
A bunch of poor people are calling each other poor and explaining why the other person is poor and dumb instead of themselves.
>>27725543
Fucking this.
Imagine setting up an AutoDonald's in the middle of the ghetto; they'd have to have rubber-bullet turrets and armed security guards just to prevent the place from being looted every day.
What's stopping niggers from just jumping over the counter, using crowbars to pry hamburgers out of the machines, and making whatever they wanted?
>>27725564
the actual living wage didn't increase with inflation. hence the way gap. so any wage increase is just rectifying the problem in the first place.
>>27725543
don't pretend you wouldn't get off your fat ass to steal burgers
fucking amerifats thinking they're better than black people
>>27725538
>above everyone
this sounds like projection. it doesn't make any difference where i stand.
>impossible to say a positive thing
>thing
lmao
i think the current system and the relationship people have with it is the most successful in the world. there are tons of areas to reevaluate how we pay and employ people, but something so shortsighted as "rich = greed, just give me money!" isn't the right approach. it never worked before.
>>27725506
$15/hour is what the workers have been demanding as minimum wage, but that's not what they actually make. The pic is saying "You want $15/hr? Yeah right if we were gonna pay that we'd just invest into these machines you retard"
>>27725586
>They almost always provide crappier services at higher prices
Wow, the corporate brainwashing is strong with this one.
>complicated and failure prone expensive machines replacing good old menial labor outright
When I worked in fast food we cut our own vegetables because it was cheaper than ordering pre sliced ones.
Cleaning will never be truly automatic either, there's just enough obnoxiously complicated tasks that a full blown robot crew will never happen.
>>27725524
>cornering the market on bad white-people rap?
What did he mean by this?
With Capitalism the system is fool proof, meaning it's not left to the will of some leader, but built into the system. And responsibility is diverted from individuals and blamed on the system itself, or on natural law, or social Darwinism or some other such inalienable condition. This is how you get people who will ignore any injustice happening around them because they can't find a name or face to pin it on. Wanna tell us how many deaths Stalin was responsible for again? Go ahead, tell us.
>>27725666
but why is it suddenly at 15, and not 14, or 10 or 7?
if they don't have to hire any staff, why aren't they doing it already?
>>27725666
He knows what the pic is saying, he's just saying that the machine is cheaper no matter what the employees make.
>>27724852
>>27724790
Not the anon you're replying to, but I have a masters in computer science and have extensively worked with automation in my career.
Automating all the functions of a McDonalds would be pretty fucking simple.
>>27725658
>don't overestimate just how much you would all gain if you just slaughtered the tippy top 1%
don't you mean "we would all" instead of "you would all", then you just refuted your own point in the next sentence.
not to mention the fact that entire sentence is the most cynical fucking thing i've read this week, are you being serious or joking?
i can't even tell what stance you are trying to take or what point you're trying to make.
apparently you just want the trend to continue?
am i just being trolled by a pretentious crazy person who indents every sentence?
>>27725713
Because the movement started in cities where making less than $15/hr isn't viable living wages.
I make $10 out in the middle of nowhere where the cost of living is comparatively dirt cheap and it's still barely livable without having roommates.
the wage can go up to what its already been in the past when your country was greatest.
http://cepr.net/blogs/cepr-blog/the-minimum-wage-and-economic-growth
>>27725657
Implying niggers would give you the chance to even take even one burger, if I was an alpha nigger I wouldn't.
>>27725737
Not anyone you're replying too either but I worked in fast food for all of a year and I can tell you that you'll hit diminishing returns on the cost of automation compared to money saved in the long run. You could cut out a lot of jobs, but having actual human beings to do the handful of work a robot can't easily do and have people around to troubleshoot when the system inevitably fails will never stop being a requirement.
>>27725737
curing cancer would be simple too. except for the part where costs would be astronomical.
if you've seen the process almost everything is already automated. the few things that mcdonalds has employees do are not simple, practical, or even on the horizon yet for machines. most customers aren't tech savvy hipsters who just want a burger vending machine (but you could certainly open a few along the coasts), and most locations would just lose a fuck load of money on maintenance for machines that mostly just collect dust.
>I SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD A 3BEDROOM HOUSE WITH 2 KIDS AND A WIFE WHILE I TAKE ORDERS AT MCDONALD'S AS OUR ONLY INCOME
Die liberal scum
>>27725630
With cashier workers you have some sort of human interaction if a nigger robbed a fully automated store they would be praised as a contemporary robin hood.
>>27725701
>capitalism is fool-proof
>inevitably becomes hijacked by the already established elite
>winners always seek to close the system to their benefit and often succeed (see: Lobbying, private security forces, company scrip)
I'm not saying the other systems are superior or less susceptible to abuse, but let's not act like capitalism is the infallible answer to all of our distribution musings and needs.
>>27725832
people could in the past, its only cos the wage didn't rise and company's now want more money.
you can have a nice wage and a nice life, you don't have to be slaves working for nothing to keep rich people richer
>>27725832
>implying you can afford a one bedroom apartment, bills, and food to sustain yourself on $7.25/hr and a cap of 30 hours a week since nobody wants to actually pay people to work a proper job anymore
>>27725524
>>27725701
it would be better to have both
>>27725737
yeah you could automate the functions, but how does the product get off the truck into the freezers and how does it get from freezer to cabinet?
you have to redesign the layout of the Mcdonalds and give the machines direct access to the freezers.
plus all the boxes are stacked on top of each other. you'd need a robot box stacking system too.
you'd also need a robot dish cleaning system because all the trays held inside the warmers get dirty eventually.
>>27725832
>implying theres anything wr0ng with that
>>27725749
we would all, yeah ;)
>on r9k
>saying redistributing the wealth of the top has never been effective is the most cynical thing you've read this week
hmmm. anyway do you have any other argument other than "just pay people more because why not"? obviously there will be push and pull on this issue because it's the most important shit people think about. but some half baked idea from a condescending fag isn't going to do it.
Automation is coming anyway.
so whats the next step of evolution when 90% of people don't need to work?
>306 replies
>"B....BBBBUT I'M NOT BUTTHURT OR MAD, AN IM CERTAINLY NOT BTFO!!!!"
Wagecucks are so damn delusional.
>>27725978
i think you mean like 5%
>>27725865
I know, it's hilarious.
I can see them wearing stolen Happy Meal toys around their necks on gold chains, brandishing the chunk of metal that tore off the machine, putting up videos of them dashing in and tearing off the burger machine's burger security plate to a gangster soundtrack, eating their mountain of McDonald's hamburgers in slow motion on youtube to some less vicious negro music, etc.
A whole subculture of burgersnatching would emerge in black communities.
>over 47% currently available jobs can be automated in 10 years.
>robots and AI are getting better each passing day.
universal basic income when?
>>27725978
see>>27725989
Though it's higher than 5%; we already have more than that not working while the economy chugs along with little problem.
I'd say something like 30-35 percent is the breaking point.
>>27725989
It's not just menial labor that is automatable.
For instance, most trading on the New York Stock Exchange is done by daytrading AI's. Not human stockbrokers. Doctors already consult diagnostic AI to diagnose patients, and they already use pharmacology software to make sure their medicines don't conflict.
It is not just McDonalds employees who will be out of work.
this shit cant go on forever
eventually we will have to grow up and learn to help eachother out
>>27726089
anything anyone says is meaningless though. even right now 100% of the population doesn't have to work in free countries. automation won't change the fundamental dynamics of supply and demand, and it never has. people just adjust to either move to where automation isn't sustainable or discover new opportunities.
>>27726154
>out of work
this is a different question. people lose their jobs all the time for a million different reasons.
you mention tools that assist the scaling of services. any study you look up will say that we are really behind on building and establishing those tools to accommodate increasing demands. if you make machine learning algorithms you can be the laziest dick on the planet and easily earn a fat paycheck.
fuck mcdonalds anyway, those guys are relatively safe from any further automation. the guys in trouble recently and in the near future are farmers and drivers.
>>27725901
This generally isn't how automation works. You hire one or two retards to move items around to different machines. 100% full automation is a waste of time and money, usually.
It's still a lot less than the 15-30 dipshits they have on staff at any particular McDonalds.
>>27722256
How much do you make queer? My uncle is partnered with a big contracter and makes more or less 65k a year
>>27726471
>discover new opportunities
There WILL come a point where a computer will be able to do -anything- that you can do better and more efficiently.
I don't why this isn't obvious to people just because it hasn't happened quite yet.
>raise minimum wage to $15 an hour
>with 20 years all menial labor is automated
>huge amounts of unemployment
>the only people making money are paper-pushers and CEOs, since all the work that is actually important is done by robots now
>massive amounts of discontent
>capitalism is overthrown
>>27721475
I get a custom order.
>whopper with 5 patties
I call it the bane burger.
>>27725171
I know you're just trolling, and I'm not the guy you're arguing with. Replacing maternity with maturity is a malapropism, "the mistaken use of a word in place of a similar-sounding one, often with unintentionally amusing effect." A typo is when you said "I'd" instead of "is".
>>27721357
>former wagecucks start going around vandalizing expensive equipment
>stores revert back to paying some loser 15 dolr per hour instead of tech repair men 200 per hour.
>>27722875
I don't know about whatever third world hell hole you come from, but here you queue to place your order and stand off to the side while it's being cooked. If there's a queue it's because the cashier doesn't speak English properly.
>>27726817
That sounds like a rather large burger.
>>27727189
>implying they wouldn't just hire a cheap security guard/use cameras
>>27726800
Sorry to rain on your parade but the elite won't let that happen. They will simply cull the unwashed masses once they have outlived their usefulness.
Expect 3/4 of humanity to get killed off once automation becomes really big.
>>27727461
I'm aware of this theory but I think it's bullshit.
>>27727461
They should offer a sterilization program that results in you getting a small monthly pittance/universal income stipend for the rest of your life.Non-whites and non-east asians should be outright eradicated from the planet.
>>27722481
Because the economy is based around people buying shit, yet giving people more money to buy more shit is somehow bad for it.
I don't know.
>>27724763
Are you aware that the American system isn't built to last at all and is ENTIRELY based on whether we have oil or not.
Once oil runs out (and it will, soon) you're going to wish you stopped sucking the energy company's collective dick and found an alternative.
At least socialist countries will have had a nicer time before it all comes tumbling down.
>>27723049
>money it is effectively removed from the system and added to their hoard
I hate this myth. Guess what rich people do with their money? THEY INVEST IT. They don't hide it under their bed or whatever. It goes right back into the system.
>>27725192
>thinking capitalism isn't determined by an elite class
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHA
>>27725832
People could afford all that on slightly above minimum wage 40 years ago.
Now people with degrees, no children and no wife can't afford to buy a house.
If you can't see we're fucked and think this is all just "those damn lazy niggers wanting free stuff" you are a fucking idiot.
Wagecucks - when will they learn?
>>27727603
I actually wrote a paper about this for a political science class where we had to write about how we would pragmatically solve a societal issue we believed to be important. I chose overpopulation. I covered my racist beliefs by using terms like "lower class" and "economically disadvantaged" instead of "filthy niggers" and "spics that breed like rabbits."
If we stopped giving foreign aid to third world countries, that would lower their birth rates and help them build their own economies. If our government offered any citizen $15K to get sterilized plus paid for the cost of the surgery, tons of poor people would do that. Lots of poor people in America are minorities so that means fewer minorities and maybe the white share of the population can finally increase. $15K is a bargain compared to what the taxpayer would spend in cradle to grave benefits for the illegitimate Jamals and Pablos that would never exist if their parents were sterilized.
I got a B on the paper. The professor thought it was well-written and that I made my arguments well but he didn't think eugenics could be used in the present day because COME ON IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR and we were supposed to write about practical solutions.
>>27727692
You actually believe this? Really? Did you not read the massive leak that showed how and how much money was being kept in tax-free offshore bank accounts.
Trickle down is the most stupid meme of the modern age.
>>27727823
Bank accounts are investments.
How do you think banks make money? You invest your money in them, and then they use it to give loans. Money you put in a bank account doesn't just sit in a vault.
>>27723080
Lol being this edgy in 2016. What's wrong, did a big bad cop take your weed away?
>>27727822
It wouldn't actually help, man.
My mom is a teacher in a public school in a high-poverty area. She gets kids coming in all the time that happily admit "mom had me because the state pays for 5! :D :D :D"
They'll continue to have the max number of children and THEN get the sterilization. You can't stop this except by removing the child aid (which will never pass because you can't take money from children! :( :( ;( ) or by limiting it to people that already don't have kids (which limits the effectiveness, because the kids are a long-term payout and most people needing handouts are going to be past the point of family planning to begin with).
It really isn't viable in any way that approaches voluntary.
>>27721540
you are underestimating what machines can do first of all. second of all even if there are some things they can't handle if each mcdonalds only needs one man to run the whole shop we will still have a problem of unemployment.
>>27727955
Time for plan B
ITT: fat lazy slobs complain about their laziness not being enabled.
Stay triggered, losers
>>27727852
Yes, I know how interest works. Except off-shore tax havens aren't exactly trickling down shit to the countries the big multinationals operate in.
Loans aren't trickle down economics, they're flimsy "I.O.U."s which create bubbles that fuck everything up for everyone. 2008 was the inevitable culmination of your economic philosophy, as all money was fake loan money.
>>27728063
2008 was retards handing out shitty loans. Not evidence that loans in general are bad.
You want to start a small business, but you don't have the $300k start-up capitol. How are you going to raise that money? The obvious answer is via a loan.
btw, "trickle down economics" was a slur libfags invented to strawman Reaganomics. Neither Reagan nor any conservative economist at the time ever called it that.
>>27727955
How about the 15k followed by yearly payments like I mentioned?
Make the argument that these are horrible parents and make a few documentaries about niggers beating the shit out of their kids and spread it around enough until people agree that instead of giving aid to Shaniqua the kids should be put up for adoption or raised in state orphanages (we'll call them Child Centers and make them look great), but make the point that Shaniqua cannot be allowed to ruin the lives of any children.
Now, I don't give a shit about minorities because I'm white, so I really don't care if this is better or worse for the children (Honestly, I doubt it'd be any worse for them, and white trash would get filtered through too).
Eugenics is moral as fuck. I'm reading a book about cancer and this couple had a 50 percent chance of passing on a rare genetic disease that massively raises the chances of developing cancer; not only did these fucks have one kid who had it, they decided to have ANOTHER little girl who also ended up getting it. These kids have to go get screened once a month for tumors.
Like why the fuck should that be legal? Why the fuck SHOULDN'T we regulate who can and cannot have children? Garbage parents and garbage genetic lines have caused plenty of problems for everyone, include those people themselves.
>>27727955
Its simple. You tie the amount of the lump sum to how many kids they have. Have more kids, get less money when you're sterilized.
Poor people have no concept of time preference, they will, by and large, take the biggest lump sum they can get.
>>27721357
>ignorant, unskilled, uneducated moran
>maturity leave
Oh my stars and garters! This boner has me in an absolute uproar of a guffaw!
>>27721357
I hope whoever made this image isn't seriously implying that this wasn't going to happen anyway. Even if the minimum wage is 7.50, a robot who only charges electricity and maintenance is still going to be cheaper. Might as well get livable wages out of the jobs that can't be replaced yet for whatever reason.
>>27728144
It's an accurate description of the idea that if you give the rich tax breaks and let them keep more of their money, they'll spend it in the economy and thereby create jobs. It's also the most common description for that idea. I don't see the point of getting huffy about either fact.
>>27728144
I'd argue consumer loans are very bad. Student loans, car loans, credit card loans, mortgage loans, etc. are way too easy to get. Business loans are a totally different thing.
Student loans are evil as shit. If a kid is smart enough to handle college, they should get a free ride at state school. This would force schools to contain costs and ratchet up entry requirements.Now, this system is already partly in place with scholarships and shit, and but it doesn't really do anything to stop people who don't belong in school from going to school to delay adulthood or the inevitable low-class job they'll have to eventually accept.
But no, let's just invent bullshit majors and programs that anyone can coast through, convince everyone college degrees are interchangeable, and offer them virtually unlimited money to go get drunk and party every night for 4 years.
But of course, we can't force stricter entry requirements on all accredited schools, because niggers hab hrd tiem wit entry tests n shieettt. Gee, maybe not everyone should go to college? I know I didn't belong there.
>>27721357
>Implying I'm not the guy who makes these things
The same way as being a NEET, being a "wagecuck" is a sign of you having failed at life.
>>27728304
The thing is, when corps get tax breaks, that usually results in a bigger bonus for the CEOs.
CEOs are modern princes and kings, familio. Corporations function as profit-extraction machines for them. Corporate structure is too lenient and lets these fucks do things like write their own severance package terms.
>>27728315
>If a kid is smart enough to handle college, they should get a free ride at state school.
Realistically, 33ACT 3.9GPA gets you damn near full ride at most colleges.
>>27727364
For you
BANE? Aye.
>>27728432
>ACT
I went to a garbage school and still had to take out loans; I'm THAT fucking dumb, so forgive me for my lack of rigor and extreme latent racism.I'd take the sterilization pay without much thought, so long as I was getting income each year. My children would be miserable genetic failures, if I could ever hope to have any, and I will never have the means to support them anyway. Granted, it's more important that women sign up, because men are basically disposable cumsacks when it comes to creating babies and siphoning welfare.
>>27728315
Schools gotta make money somehow.
I agree though that this whole "everyone should get a higher education" meme needs to die.
How much attention did people pay to their free high school? None? So what makes you think they'll pay more attention to free college?
Get a medical job. Those won't be phased out as quickly.
>>27728531
Hence the entrance exams.
But you're right, the ultimate problem is the idea that everyone should go to college. I think something like 28 percent of American adults have a Bachelor's now. Like, what the fuck?
>>27728531
>>27728713
You can look at it as sort of a dumb animal rush. The idea that everybody should do college came from people who knew of a college education as something that automatically got you a pretty good job; mostly boomers, who inherited the idea from the Greatest Generation. What they weren't thinking about is that degrees were valuable because most people didn't have one. Now that a college education is more common, it's relatively worth less.
Still, apparently it's 33% of Americans who have a degree of some kind. 1 out of every 3, not as bad as I thought.
>>27728899
>33 percent
Nigga that's fucking huge.
I find it hard to believe these brilliant social architects had no idea that this would lead to a devaluation of degrees. I smell you know who at work.
>>27728600
Once the universal panacea is invented, there will be no need for any medical worker.
Or when robotic/holographic avatars are invented. Whichever comes first.
>>27728924
Don't be stupid, it's emergent circumstances. Someone made it easier for people to get into college via the GI bill, then those people got better jobs, which made everyone else want them, which made everyone rush the system, and that (combined with colleges/universities hiring corporate scam artists to increase revenue) has led to the tarnishing of the system.
There's nobody at the wheel here, and that's the whole problem.
Cmon guys. We're still waiting for the wealth to trickle down like that fucking crook Reagan said. Capitalism is not self sustainable and eventually we will all be wage slaves. The gap in income is STILL increasing. Some people are so rich their residual income is making them money. The system doesn't scale properly. It's obvious but no one wants to admit it. Admitting it now would only welcome chaos and anarchy. An upheaval is out of the question.
Do you think anyone aged 18 and up in this current year will even be able to afford retirement? Next generation is probably going to be born owing money at this point.
Behead the 1%. They bought and sold the future from people already.
You'll never buy a house and own it in the United states if you didn't survive the clusterfuck that happened a few years ago. We're all fucked.
>>27729339
>You'll never buy a house and own it in the United states
It's a buyers market now though. Property values plummeted. Now's the perfect time to buy.
>>27729005I was kidding about the Jews, but 33 percent is still unbelievably huge
>>27721357
good thing i dont work at mcdicks
>>27721541
Don't worry bro, being in the ER and EMT field means you will gain experience and move to upper divisions and get more money or have more opportunities than flipping burgers.
Remember, everyone starts somewhere and you still have growth.
>>27721357
>people getting angry that the lowest legally paid people working the shittiest jobs are getting a few dollars more
That's fucked
>>27729471
Not with all these renovation companies with capital buying those properties up and reselling them to the public for profit. They are slowly inflating the cost of housing, let me see if I can find the article.
>>27727364
for HIM lol
or maybe yer wondering why a amne would get a burger wtih five patties before getting pepsi soaked fries and throwing them out a plane?
>>27721357
I'm a student, I need my mcdicks job until i finish uni. No im not doing liberal arts.
>>27722481
Because they believe the less money for those monkeys frying chicken at KFC means more for them doing real jobs.
>>27721497
fuck off reddit fagboy
>>27721357
>Maturity leave
>Uneducated moron
Choose one and only
>>27729628
http://www.realtytoday.com/articles/80537/20160304/increase-house-flipping-sends-signs-housing-bubble.htm
>>27723862
How often does your computer blue screen?
How often does your phone freeze?
I bet not nearly as often as they did 10 years ago. Technology is getting better. Same for mcburger automation. Just takes time.
>>27721453
>Impact font
Never had 15 dollars in an hour.
t. 24 year old who has worked several jobs
>>27729771
Your computer only bluescreens when you fuck up.
85% of people can't even read the sale tags properly at my store. They'll replace me as a cashier the day people learn to fucking read.
>>27729612
They're getting angry because it will destory the economy. Inflation will go up to levels that might affect the rich instead of the plebs, and we can't be doing with that can we.
>mfw one day even lawyers will get replaced by robots.
meh. i'm going to be a cook. Try and do that better than me robot!
>>27730035
Unless you're good enough to feed the elite then you're fucked. Society have successfully been weaned onto Corn Syrup and Sugar, they can be weaned onto purely robot-made food even in restaurants.
>>27726745
>will
and you can talk shit when it becomes possible. until then you might as well claim we have hoverboards and can travel at the speed of light. also you seem to be completely confused as to how people adjust.
>there are people who get paid to tell young boys not to pursue women and not to take work seriously
EPIC FEMINIST WIN 10/10 MASS MURDERERS IN OUR FUTURE
>>27730133
People have adjusted because there has always been something else to do. That's because humans are more capable than computers at holistic and overall level.
A human-level computer that can be duplicated is all that is needed to break everything.
Why is this so confusing for people like you?
>>27721357
>don't offend the customer with my idiocy
No, instead customers get offended by their own idiocy when they somehow can't figure out how to use a simple touch screen ordering system, and blame the machine.
>>27730171
>a human level computer
light speed travel and hoverboards. we haven't changed the "level" that a computer operates at since we designed the first microprocessors.
>>27730014
>less income inequality will destroy the economy
Rich people actually believe this
>>27727189
Yes, this is why all textiles are created by hand instead of using factory automation: because the Luddites smashed some machines and their former employers shrugged their shoulders and rehired them. Oh wait, no they didn't, the British Army fucked them six ways to Sunday instead.
>>27730271
Yep, that's just the way it is. Why have more people able to spend money on actual things when you can have rich people affording that third small nation?
>>27721357
>maturity leave
LOVING EVERY LAUGH
>>27727461
wait, so how was this legal again? how did some rando just erect these stones in a public place and not get them taken down?
>all that shit on there
sounds like a rich christfag ranting. still kinda creepy how representative that is of the unspoken goal of the wealthy.
>>27721357
>calls people morons
>maturity leave
also this looks like the kind of shit that angry 60 year old grandparents post on facebook
>>27721357
>tfw set to inherit house and sizable pension
Feels good not giving a fuck about the job market
Things go bad I'll just cocoon up :^)
>>27730557
The bottom one is entirely ignored though. Probably because being one with nature doesn't allow for the greatest profits.
>>27721357
>$15 an hour
>tfw in my shitty country this is the same pay as a graduated medic
Damm, i really want to have a shitty job in Murica.
>>27730619
Third worlder doesn't understand the concept of "cost of living"
>>27730642
in my third world, the minimum salary dont even cover "cost of living".
>>27721357
How is your post even original?
>>27721357
>work at mcdicks
>we get these kiosks
>have to hire an extra person to show people how to use them
>old people simply refuse to use them
>half the people order on them and don't use card so they have to line up just to pay in cash
>receipt constantly jams in one of them
>>27730720
If that was true, you wouldn't be typing on this board right now; you'd be dead, dumbass.
>>27721357
What the fuck is 'maturity leave'?
never underestimate the joy people get from being served by a hot teenage girl in a mcdonalds uniform. machines cant replace that.
>>27721357
Lol they have these in the mcdix in all the places I travel to.
I usually drive thru tho.
But now I go inside knowing I don't have to deal with some fatass sassy sheboon.
Life's good, boys
>>27730786
implying he has minimum wage you dumb fuck
>>27730764
I should add that this was at $25AUD/hr
>>27721357
>tfw neets will never get maturity leave because they're just overgrown children
>>27730817
too bad im not a hot teenage girl...
>>27721601
What facts? McDonald's doesn't pay $15/hr.
>>27721357
>don't offend the customer with my idiocy
Never used a self-checkout lane? Those things piss away tons of your time largely through no fault of your own for anything but the smallest transactions
>>27731090
So nothing then
Competitive wholesome white capitalism when I want it, evil sociopathic jewish corporatocracy when I don't.
>>27721357
But they only accept cards. Except for fast-food places in nice parts of town, these machines would be broken pieces of shit in a month or less.
For the ones which take cash, they'd better be built like fucking tanks, because every hungry nigger will simply try to break the machine open to steal the money. They might even break them for the hell of it.
>>27733918
>capitalism
>wholesome
no
national socialism is the only thing that isn't degenerate
>>27721357
>never cause problems at work
Until...
>Power goes out
>Internet goes out
>Hardware failures
The computers at my workplace get so clogged up with flour that they have to be slapped around and prodded just to make them respond half the time lmao.
>>27722405
>only to get a return on investment years down the line
Its clear YOU have never run a business.
You dont do things for immediate profit, you do it for the cash down the road.
Bump for interest.and (you)
>>27721357
I'd rather have machines make my burger than some disgusting min wage worker that gets spit in my food
>>27734963
The machines will spit in your food too once they learn to hate.
>>27721453
Nice Tumblr meme faggot.
it irks me that shit like OP picture comes straight from facebook more than likely
it's happening too often now
hmmmm
>>27721453
there's no way you mix up "maturity leave" with "maternity leave" and still expect people to take you seriously pal
>>27724034
yeah cause libraries totally don't have a kids section
I've browsed 4chan plenty in a library with no problems
>>27724054
>air conditioned kitchen
hahahahha like other anon said
>>27721357
You'd be stupid not to replace your employees with them if possible. Social Darwinism will eventually wean out the weak ones (not unlike myself).
Dear Neets:
You do realize that your parents are going to die at some point right? The only reason being a Neet is mildly enjoyable for you is the fact that they have given you a nice home to sleep in. When they pass away and you can't afford to pay taxes on that house and all the utilities you will have to live in section 8 housing with a bunch of niggers and retards. Look at yourself in the morning and ask yourself, am I ok with what I am? Really let the reality of being a literal parasite to society sink into you sub conscious and have it float around as you waste away your days. All that aside I think it is hilarious that you always compare you existance to fast food employees,you do realize that there are a lot of entry level jobs that pay way more than you make as a NEET. The type of money that can buy things, trips, experinces, etc. Also if you study a little bit on basic investing you could put enough money away to live a more lavish "neet" life. I am 27 and on track to retire in about 10 more years. My retiremetn income will far surpass your shitty neetbux and thanks to my income I have been able to take a trip to a different country twice a year from the age of 19.
>>27736273
I'm inheriting a nice pension
not worried about taxes or utilities, they are both dirt cheap
Smh 427 replies. Wagies why are you so assblasted
>>27721357
Well robot you forgot about shit like hackers or water getting spilled on you. Then there's all those germs people will put on you
>>27722481
why not 50$ an hour?
Then rising unemployment has the democrats calling for a universal basic income which I assume you know from Reddit.
Neetdom for all
>>27737323
Because thats far past the limit employers can afford? $15 is the very maximum limit. I should think $10/hour and getting rid of sales tax except on luxury stuff would be the best idea
I get checks from the government.
>>27721357
How do you get your money then, NEET? Are you on government assistance? I don't mind if you are, I'm just curious how you afford the lifestyle you have.
Since you're American, the government assistance you get is pretty negligible so I can't see you making rent and utilities with it. You might live with your parents, but what do you plan to do when they eventually pass on?
Again, just curious what your longterm/backup plans are.
>tfw subway added a drive thru with a touch screen to make your sandwiches
>love it and go there almost every day because i hate standing around in line and dictating everything I want
>Always picked on in school for being smart, an egg-head, nerd (legitimate nerd, not some 30 year old child who memorizes facts about their favorite books, comics, and cinema).
>Always passed over for physically superior men who were dumb as rocks, with career goals such as being athletes, soldiers, businessmen. Always passed on by intellectual women for men who could entertain them socially, like a set of shiny keys jingling in front of a baby
>tfw finally achieved a life milestone of starting a career in robotics
>Better yet, it's not a robotics job that requires sitting in a cubicle: agricultural robotics
>My first project is to implement a line of robots which will be displacing upwards of 100+ migrant workers from their jobs, and possibly hundreds and hundreds more in the years to come
>This is just the start: with advancements in perception, machine learning, and kinematics, all of those useless men and women will be put out of work, and the need to interact with them will be even less important
>Roboticized financing and stock, warfare, food production, goods delivery, transportation, service, sex, and more to come still.
>mfw every day we are one step closer to a misanthrope paradise, one step closer to humanity exacting revenge upon itself
>>27721461
>only accept cards
>no cash
>steal... buns?
>>27737632
>not wanting your sandwich handcrafted by a certified sandwich artisan
>>27729586
Lol no he won't
>>27729779
Mcfucking kill yourself
T. 18 yo ford worker that makes 17 an hour
>Automation will happen
>Countless people will either require welfare or starve/riot
If you're not working NOW and saving every fucking penny you're putting your life in the idea that the government will not be trying to cull you.
>>27736273
>search specifically for entry level jobs
>all the ones that aren't shit tier require 3+ years of experience, several professional references and a postgrad degree
>"entry level"
>>27737733
Who do you think actually puts it together you fucking pleb
>>27721475
>people don't get custom orders
Stopped reading there, maybe you should try working in a fast food place before joining this conversation.
>>27721426
???
Explain why it hasn't happened yet, then
>>27739817
People ask for custom orders because you're there. Extra ketchup or no tomato or whatever. But when they automate McDonald's, if that's too hard to do with the technology, they just won't give you the option and they'll bet on people being willing to put up with it, which they will.
>>27723992
how the hell did the phrase "you're a stupid person" make it though the robot?
Will someone explain to me how a $15 minimum wage will do anything but speed up inflation as $15 quickly becomes worth as much as minimum wage is now?
I mean, if everyone is making $x more, then no one really is.
>>27739883
It's basically just wealth redistribution since the highest earners won't be affected by it, and medium earners will get nominal raises so they know they're not worth-minimum-wage
>>27739883
Adjusted for inflation, the minimum wage is much lower than it's ever been in history.
>>27739931
If the next group up gets a raise, then sooner or later, the group just above them will get a raise, and so on up the chain, until minimum wage is worth the same fucking thing again.
If you're wondering where all the money is coming from, you're forgetting about all the minimum wagers with more money to blow.
>>27722246
i think most researchers are pretty keenly aware of becoming obsolete, a lot of science is about novelty
>>27721357
VOTE TRUMP YOU FCKING FAGGOT AND STFU AND CHOKE ON A NIGGERS DICK
>>27728957
>universal panacea
>Implying that's possible outside of science fiction
>>27739883
The minimum wage is supposed to rise with inflation. Hopefully maybe we'll take our heads out of our asses and raise it more than once every 10 years.
>>27721357
>politicians refuse to raise minimum wage to account for inflation
>vote to raise their own salaries constantly
keep voting for corporate oligarchy shills who pander to your "party", anons. lol.
>>27730597
God-Tier comment
>>27740292
>Implying that's possible outside of science fiction
we're on the verge of making breakthroughs in nanotech, anon. might even happen in your lifetime :)
>>27728957
it wont be in your lifetime buddy
>>27740058
No, because at some point the gap between wages gets so large that the increase will become redundant
>>27740058
So do you prefer the current system where only the highest paid get raises because they give it to themselves?
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