Memes aside, why haven't you started lifting?
It's almost summer. Do you really wanna look like shit when you're on the beach?
>>27698667
Because no amount of lifting will unfuck me from being a manlet with overcompensation syndrome. The average high school girl is taller than me.
The try hard body . When will they learn
>lifting
Jesus Christ, the gymcels never learn...
You know why Zyzz looked so good?
ALPHA GENETICS.
His insertion points were UNREAL. It's EXTREMELY rare to have the kind of muscular shape he did - that slim waist, those wide shoulders, those narrow hips, that height?! GENETICS. Uncontrollable, unchangeable, set in stone genetics.
Sure you can go to the gym and lift hard. Sure you can bulk up 50lbs. Maybe you'll even get on gear and build some muscle. But you'll NEVER look like Zyzz.
Why? Because you have INFERIOR GENETICS. You can get bigger biceps, you can build a larger chest, you can get huge quads - you can make yourself look slightly better, but you will NEVER have a body girls will drool over.
"B-but Zyzz used to be beta!" NO, he used to be a TEENAGER. Of course he looked beta in those fucking before photos, he was about 15. He hadn't had time for his broad shoulders to develop yet, so naturally he looked like any skinny beta. But once he went through puberty, the truth became clear. Why? Because the things that attract women are GENETIC. It makes sense - attraction is based off GENETICALLY good traits. These are things like height, a symmetrical face, a big dick, and a good shoulder to hip ratio. All of these things are pretty much unchangeable. They can be improved slightly, but not significantly enough for most of you to "make it brah".
And as for "autism", complete bullshit. Chad can be the biggest shy sperglord and girls will ADORE him because of his LOOKS, they'll just think he's "mysterious". Fucking LOL at thinking game even exists.
>going to the beach when it's hot
u wanna burn ur feet senpai?
>>27698667
>going to the beach
I'd never do that, cant stand people looking at me and also I hate being around people.
>>27698667
i'm a wagecuck so have had to chose between lifting and martial arts this year.
The latter is a better use time for me this year but I've been lifting since zyzz was posting.
>Going outside
Nah, m8, nah.
Don't want to spoil my femboy aesthetic
>>27698691
How tall are you, senpai?
5'7" manlet here
I am 6'2, while not monster height when I go to the gym everyone is always staring me down and I found it very uncomfortable.
I'm on starvation diet,will be 178cm and 55kg till summer.I like being thin.
>>27698695
>zyzz
No.
>>27698812
5'4" and slender. 110 lbs at my heaviest.
Don't have weights. I do push-ups. A month ago I literally couldn't lift myself off the ground in a real push-up. The only lift I got was from my stomach. So I did knee push-ups ('girly' push-ups).
Now I do 5 reps of 10-15 every day unless I'm sore. I've lost 4kg.
Is push-ups worse than weights in some way though? You can obviously do more when you have weights but just considering push-up muscles.
>>27698667
I dont leave the house or care how I look
>>27698868
>upgraded pic
Thanks anon. Means a lot to me.
>>27698667
>already lift
>hate the beach
>imblyign i go
>still no chance of getting laid
its not spring break crazy during the summer its more families and tourist at the beach than blacked out drunk sluts
>>27698881
Shit sucks when you do leave in like august and everyone is bronzed and golden and I am ghost white looking like I just escaped a dungeon or something
>>27698667
Not even sure its worth it anons. I used to be a huge lifter, i even co-owned a gym for a few years. Got up to a lean 95kg, then one year i got ill, got ill again, got ill again repeat until i got diagnosed with crohns about a year later. Im now mostly better but i weight 67kg. I lost all the muscle i spent a decade working for.
You work fucking hard and the second you stop it melts away. Not sure im going to try get back into it.
My pot belly took a lot of work, why would I destroy such a creation? Women are yet to see the advantage of such a feature but when they do, they'll be a line at my door.
>>27698695
>discouraging people from improving themselves
you are literally the worst kind of person.
Because my body is shit and I am scared. I have very narrow shoulders and big head, it's freak tier. Also a bit skinny fat 178/73. Some guys are chubby or skinny with wide shoulders. Also my bench press is only 45 kg, tiny wrists , etc etc.
>>27698667
why should i lift? i dont care what some people think about my body and i dont go to the beach.
why should i waste my freetime with shit i dont like you poor loser?
>>27698871
Heh 5 reps of push ups. Step it up kid. I do 100 push ups a day... And that just a warmup.
*spins my flaccid sausage in your face*
Get on my level, kid. Eh, I'm lifting till I can't physically do it anymore. The pain gets me off. That's how I roll and go.
>>27698926
You can benchpress my lowest body weight. Also, at least you don't have gyno.
>>27698922
>hurrr just lift bruh it will solve all ur problemz
>shilling gyms
>shiling a pointless hobby
sounds like youre the terrible one
Stopped after a few months.
>gym too expensive
>no time
>out of the way and have to carry around gym stuff
>hurt my shoulder snowboarding and lifting makes it unbearable no matter how much rest and stretching I do
>expensive diet
>miss vidya
>>27698990
Nice hips. What are your measurements?
welp, looks like the /soc/ train is already rolling
rate my fat loss, hopefully will look sikh by late summer time
25 pound difference, 220lbs to 195lbs, height is 5'8 age 18
>>27698871
Of course push ups are worse than weights, you wont be building any size at all and eventually will have to work on flexibility so you can do hand stand push ups and one armed ones to keep the difficulty up.
Just go to a gym and bench dumbbells.
I have stretch marks on my lower back so I never take my shirt off and try to avoid the beach. The good thing is that i can bulk forever and look big on clothes.
>>27698667
good try shill
i would argue most of your replies are from shills too.
>>27698900
Same here senpai, though im not better yet so cant even go to the gym because my stomach feels like its going to explode so straining would probably tear it up.
Why did i have to be born broken when i at least tried? All those robots here for who it wouldnt matter if they got ill and here i am incapable of doing anything.
>>27699018
>height is 5'8
..............
>>27699056
okay? what about it?
>>27699017
>Nice hips
fuck off
>What are your measurements?
What measurements do you want specifically?
>>27699018
> 5'8
But hey at least you'll look massive because of your stumpy limbs
>>27698990
> that gyno
>that waist/hip
dude did you ever get checked for kleinfelter's? Or at least somehow you received to much oestrogen in the womb
>>27699018
You weren't horrible either way honestly. Keep going but you're looking gr8 m8.
>>27698761
So i'm assuming you look like you lift right? then you can just complement the body with actual function, it makes sense.
What martial art are you thinking of doing?
>>27699063
Let the salt flow cuckboi
>>27698695
>You know why Zyzz looked so good?
>ALPHA GENETICS.
That, and steroids.
>>27699109
why dont you post your progress cuccboi
>>27699025
OK I see your point. I'll get some weights. I can't go outside due to social phobia. A gym is just out of the question.
>>27698986
Good for you anon. I don't get the meme. Also did I get the terminology right? I do 10-15 push-ups and then break and do another 10-15.
I'm not sure what's best though. Am I supposed to work until they (arms) won't respond anymore or is going for amount of push-ups better?
>>27698691
>Be 5'9'
>See some 5'4' guy with bulging arms the size of my thigh
>Explode into laughter as soon as I get away
He probably saw me smirking, fuck man, 4chan has messed with my head with this shit, I would've thought nothing of it if not for manlet shaming. But it's fine though, soon after some 6'3' guy put me in my place.
>>27699063
Oh but yeah, there's no cure for manlet. Consider suicide.
>>27699126
>triggered because he's skinnyfat
lol
>>27699101
>weren't horrible
What? You didn't see the tits he had? Looked like pre-op FTM
I'M SKINNYFAT WITH GYNO. I WILL NEVER EVER GO TO A BEACH.
>>27699124
>. But it's fine though, soon after some 6'3' guy put me in my place
What did he do?
>>27699160
Show up obviously.
>>27699160
Be taller than me. Karma for laughing at someone shorter than me.
>>27699096
I'm 5'4" I highly doubt I have kleinfelter's.
>> that gyno
>>that waist/hip
Don't remind me
>>27699124
This is why I hate tall people. We can't help being short no more than you can help being a massive faggot.
>>27699146
I'm skinny with gyno. Lose weight tubby.
>>27699075
Tits - waist - hips
>>27699102
Nunchaku
>>27699169
>Lose weight tubby.
I'm already a fucking skellington. I only weight 140. That has nothing to do with gyno.
>>27699122
Going for more wont train strength or fast twitch muscles, you will just be gaining endurance and eventually fitness.
rep range for strength is 3-5
hypertrophy is 8-15
Maybe just invest in some weights, you could put weight discs on your back for pushups and use dumbells for other
>>27698868
Those are fullblown trap stats
>>27699102
yea i do HEMA, kali and a bit of wrestling and Muay Thai.
>>27698990
Nice
Become a butt slut dude, submit yourself to chad
>>27699018
hold the fucking phone
this guy is 5'8 and fucking 195? HOW? most guys that height look like absolute sacks of shit with a gut past 170lbs
>>27699175
fucking retarded weaboo, instead of picking boxing or muay thai and befriending all the chads and stacies there while actually learning something that could potentially save your life.
>>27699169
If i were you i would legit do a test cycle. You already have gyno so no risk there, plus you likely were fucked over in the womb so taking testosterone will almost be setting you back to natural. Plus your extra oestro will safeguard your hair.
You literally have nothing to lose.
>>27698695
You're out of touch, pal
>>27699237
Honestly don't underestimate nunchaku, they appear more unwieldy and chaotic the more you dont understand them - but to me that dangerous unpredictability is actually considered gliding and dancing as the hardened japanese wood gains momentum and breaks bone.
>>27699169
My my someone is grumpy. What's with the short fuse? You just need to rise above your problems, little man.
>>27699174
Under the moobs its 29"
Skinniest part of waist is like 25" I think
Widest part of hips is 35"
>>27699195
>140
>skellington
ok dude
>>27699206
I'm the size of a girl. It got me picked on on a daily basis when I went to school.
>>27699218
Why don't you submit yourself off a bridge and kill yourself.
Literal Chads made my life a nightmare throughout adolescence.
>>27699240
How does that fix the w/h ratio and height problems?
>>27699018
looks fine m8
how long did it take u?
what was ur routine?
keep it goin
u should also sip sum red/green tea, shit burns fat
>>27699237
Fell for the troll
>>27699213
Have martial arts help you with confidence? what do you think has been more helpful for you overall
lifting or martial arts. I've been lifting but i think i would make more confidence gains by knowing i can defend myself in every situation, thinking of picking up boxing or muay thai.
>>27699291
It wont change your height or hips, might bulk out your waist a fair amount with obliques. But big hips wont matter when you have decent quads.
>>27699201
>weight disks on back
I have security concerns. Also I have lower back pain now. Even just trying flat on the bed (right now, elbows supporting upper body, typing on my phone). I'm a bit worried. But I'm not sure how to fix it. It might be because I'm knitting with my loom in my knee. Hunched over.
>endurance and eventually fitness
Sounds good. But I thought fitness was just a general term. Like unfit. Do you mean I'd take longer to build an aesthetic? Can I do strength first and get endurance later?
>hypertrophy
I assume this would be Bruce Lee type muscles?
>>27699291
>Literal Chads made my life a nightmare throughout adolescence
Kawaii!
Don't you know about limb lengthening, Anon?
You can safely get up to 6" with tibial and femoral lengthening!
>>27699306
Martial arts definitely. Lifting helped give me a shallow confidence, i felt good walking down the street - but learning how to handle myself really makes me feel secure - plus its not at risk of disappearing like lifting gains are. I can go on holiday for a year and be sure that when i get back i will be just as skilled with my nunchucks as before.
>>27699300
the fat loss so far has taken like 3-4 months. and even in the before pic i had already been lifting for a long while, i had muscle mass built up under the fat. i just really liked beer. had to cut that shit out.
honestly i do bro split. chest and triceps, back/rear delts and biceps, shoulders and legs. it's not always regular, sometimes i'll feel like lifting the same thing again 3 days later just for the fuck of it. do lots of pushups and diamond pushups at home
>>27699280
>short fuse
>rise above
>little man
make like a tree and kill yourself
>>27699312
And what look like a dwarf with more horizontal mass than vertical? No thanks.
>>27699326
>Kawaii!
Make out with a shotgun pls
>Don't you know about limb lengthening, Anon?
You can safely get up to 6" with tibial and femoral lengthening!
Do you know anything about proportions? Having long legs, tiny arms, and small torso would just look weird, if not more effeminate.
>>27699326
From 5'4' to 6 is fucking impossible. And even if it were he'd have T-Rex arms and still look foolish. It's over.
>>27698896
Get a fake tan brah. They look better than real ones. Google mt2. It will work faster if you tan outside 10 minutes a couple times a week but unnecessary. I used to avoid tanning because I wanted to be beautiful. Now that we can do drugs to stimulate melanocytes it's less risky. Pale will always objectively look better, but normies like the leather couch chic. I won't age myself but I'll at least get darker for some halo effect.
>>27699266
So how often do you carry nunccucks compared to a gun? They're a really specific weapon type. They have to be the right length even, can't just build some or whatever. Pole arms are better. They're a more deterring weapon and can easily be improvised anywhere.
>>27699315
Hypertrophy is just muscle size building, going for strength or endurance wont hugely build size - strength will to some degree but not much. I lost a tonne of weight once and actually somehow maintained most of my strength lifts even though i lost a lot of muscle and failed on hypertrophy days.
I dont imagine weighted push ups would put your lower back at risk. If you want to be sure do some youtube pilates videos for a bit to strengthen that up.
I would use fitness to mean cardiovascular fitness, like the ability to keep going, you can do both at the same time, though they say its slower working endurance and building size - but who cares, you dont want to be huge but die at 50 from heart failure.
>when you're on the beach
yeah thats definitely the funniest shit ever posted on /r9k/
>>27698667
I don't need to lift if I go outside everyday to jog around my town.
Cardio > Having muscle.
>>27698986
Cardio kills gains, faggit. I bet you have a cute twink ass though. Post boipucci now. If you're lucky you might get a real man to fuck you.
I don't want to buy weights. Can I just fill a few gallon milk cartons with water and lift those?
>>27699349
Up to you, you might actually attract some girls but whatever.
>>27699025
Just how inflexible are you that ROM is your sticking point in pushup variations?
>>27699384
This is all very good info. Thanks.
>>27699403
This is a meme though?
>>27699410
No. Weights have special muscle building materials built into them. If you lift milk cartons filled with liquid you build udders.
>>27699349
>make like a tree and kill yourself
Too cute! You're definitely a tranny in denial
>Do you know anything about proportions? Having long legs, tiny arms, >and small torso would just look weird, if not more effeminate.
Better than what you have now Anon, they of course do arm lengthening, so quit your whining and start saving up your mummies allowance little boy!
>>27699422
Just how lonely are you that you are browsing /r9k/?
>>27699034
What are they shilling? Big dairy? Gravity? Anti-clothing companies.
How do I lift when neet? I'm assuming just push ups won't cut it forever, anyone order weights online?
>>27699431
>No. Weights have special muscle building materials built into them. If you lift milk cartons filled with liquid you build udders.
Don't fucking make fun of me, it's a decent question.
>going to the beach
get a load of this normie
>>27699331
yeah i was thinking about that, once you learn to fight you're a badass forever. I could just cut at this point be ottermode pick up muay thai and hopefully make it.
>>27699112
And plastic surgery. That's the part that made the biggest difference. Genetics barely played a role. Anyone can be beautiful if they spend a paltry sum on surgical and chemical enhancement.
27698922
>givimg out false hope
Shoo shop GymJew lifting for aesthetics is the biggest Jew lie of the century
because it's all genetics
you can't change facial structure, height, tiny joints and low testosterone
>>27699476
wow, that post was a fucking mess
>>27699449
>Not allowing yourself to go anywhere in fear of a certain demographic.
>>27699485
small joints are actually good you retard
big joints means you have to pack on that much more muscle to fill out. muscles really "pop" on small joints and give that comic book hero look
Because I have no money for supplements and proper diet? I mean, okay maybe I don't need supplements like whey protein powder and shit, but boy does it sure help. You're basically not going to see any gains without a proper diet and lots of protein.
>>27699411
My cousin told me that she laughs at manlets who overcompensate as does most of her friends. She said I'm better off "staying cute" whatever that means.
>>27699433
>Too cute! You're definitely a tranny in denial
You must have a large anal circumference to pull something like that out of your ass.
>Better than what you have now Anon
no shit but it's not worth the risks.
>they of course do arm lengthening
And what about the torso? I'd just look like a freak.
>so quit your whining and start saving up your mummies allowance little boy!
fuck off
>>27699450
You sound like a 14 year old who reads too much shounen jump
>>27699446
The actual problem is that water isn't as dense as metals. If they're heavy enough it's a weight. You may want to consider the shape though. Don't lift a pile of knives.
The way I look at a gallon of milk I'd be bothered by the small handle size.
>>27699513
Yeah that cousin is just saying that, she wouldnt ever consider dating a tiny manlet.
>>27699502
for looks maybe, tiny joints are more prone to injury and being weak. harder to get stronger too
>>27699169
Losing weight makes gyno worse. I still lifted but puberty fucked me in the ass with that one. I mean actual gyno though. Not normal male fat distribution that is not gyno but people call gyno anyway. Getting it removed was best money I ever spent. Only $8k with a twofer gyno/mental augment. The anesthesia is so expensive it's best to do two or three procedures at a time. I still overpaid since it was unilateral boobage but I wanted the surgeon in particular. If you shop around you could knock a couple thousand off.
>>27699538
Oh I wouldn't be lifting the actuall gallons, that's not enough weight I think. I'd be getting some rope and stringing up several to a metal bar or something.
>>27698667
Because I want to look like pic instead.
>>27699548
the current mr olympia, phil heath, has fairly small joints. listen to yourself
>>27699581
>Dat face
Top kek.
>>27699589
>those joints
>small
you don't know what small joints are
>>27699513
Girls don't know what they want. They'll also tell you to "just be nice" they'll ruin your life anon. Your cousin is a whore and an idiot, tell her i said so.
>>27699621
he has a narrow clavicle. he's narrower than a lot of others but still made it to the top
>>27699513
>no shit but it's not worth the risks
The memes have gone too far with limb lengthening. Yes it hurts, no you can't walk for 2 months. That's it. As long as you use the right doctor then nothing will go wrong.
Go to some shitty rural Chinese doctor and THEY you will have risks.
>And what about the torso? I'd just look like a freak.
What's your wingspan?
Fuck it dude you at least got to have a big dick right? I'm only 186cm but at least I have a huge cock. You gotta have something going for you. Looks? Money? Dick size? Come on you pathetic little dwarf, tell me.
>>27699576
Sounds like a lot of work and space required for this construction. Not to mention the building materials. You will still need something to put yourself on. And with weights you'd rather not have it be a desk or something.
I do like the idea though.
>>27699601
>Being a /fit/ gay boy.
>>27699640
>>27699513
*182 cm
Oopsie
>>27699589
>>27699621
Can someone circle what I'm supposed to be looking at here? How can you tell anything about his joints from that?
>tfw shin splints
>>27699240
E2 doesn't do anything for hair, it's good for joints and boners but kind of shitty beyond that. It's 5ar and dht you want to watch for mpb.
Roids is legit good advice though as long as it's not a cycle. Every male should be on 100mg/wk deca and 125mg test e/wk minimum. I go a little higher on cruise with 300mg/150mg test d/deca with 50mg dbol pwo three days a week. I'm all over the place blasting but I usually double test, drop dbol for adrol QD, and take as much tren as I can stand. My diet is sloppy on cruise but I go full autism with blasts to make the most of the bulk and include slin and ghrp shit. Weight loss is dnp and ecay. It's a fun hobby because you learn something new every day. I fucking love hormones.
>>27699513
>laugh at manlets who overcompensate
Yeah she's not looking at manlets who are fit. She's looking at disproportionately built manlets.
>>27699542
Either way, she said at least I wasn't a tryhard. But yeah, she would never date a manlet. Her shortest bf was 6' and she's 5'7".
>>27699558
I have actual breast tissue too. It's really sore and sensitive. I can't afford gyno surgery though. Not on retail wages.
>>27699631
My cousin is a fujoshit who dates a literal Chad and teases me for my genetic failure. I hate her. Chad's actually nice to me though. Most of the time anyways. He teases me too though but not as bad.
>>27699670
You're 20 cm taller than me. kys
>>27699700
It's a thinly veiled excuse she uses to make fun of all manlets sadly.
>>27699640
>Fuck it dude you at least got to have a big dick right? I'm only 186cm but at least I have a huge cock. You gotta have something going for you. Looks? Money? Dick size? Come on you pathetic little dwarf, tell me.
My erect penis is 10 cm.
>>27698667
too expensive and too lazy, i never liked doing sports. those things are called gains because you lose them when you stop lifting.
i can get why people want to improve their body because after attempting it myself a few years ago it gives you a feel of achievement. but at the end of the day its just not worth it, it needs too much resources and time and most important it wont make your dick bigger or fix your personality issues
>>27699435
Lonely enough to be able to do pushups at least. I'm having trouble imagining how flexibility plays a role though. It's mostly in the elbow. Then again I got into marichyasana D in my first yoga class so I am exceptionally gifted with basic movement. I'm often surprised though, many people are incapable of squatting. I don't even mean /fit/ a2g no wink, I mean just going into a basic toddler squat. For some reason women especially struggle with the movement. I guess they're used to having a cock stabilize them when squatting down.
>>27699672
he just has a small skeleton is all
the "golden ratio" or whatever is something like your shoulders should be as wide as 2-3 of your heads
GO BACK TO FIT FOR FUCKS SAKE
i'll say it again
lifting is one of those things you do when you have your basic needs met, a NEET with no income shouldn't lift as it will just make him miserable.
if you have a comfy job, a good living situation then lifting is great. you can afford the food and gym membership, you can focus on it without worry and see your body grow and feel strong, you can get the rest you need without anxiety. you need a clear head to do this, a self hating NEET with no self worth isn't going to get very far if they start lifting.
>>27699851
I think that means two heads either side of your head
>>27698667
>Memes aside, why haven't you started lifting?
I'm lazy. No other reason.
>>27699738
>You're 20 cm taller than me. kys
A whole head taller? Woah. Like I couldn't do math you spack.
>My erect penis is 10 cm
>mfw
So cute~!
Well what DO you have going for you?
>>27699443
Just do yoga until you find a cheap betch/squat rack oly bar come up on Craigslist. Just last week I saw a nice bench, stand, and 300lb plates and trash bar set, all together for $200. It looked new too. Dumb Stacy whore got her son a home gym, somehow chose real equipment instead of meme as seen on TV machines, then sold it after he lost interest two weeks in.
Ashtanga yoga has the most gains and is very autistic. It's not like the slut yoga where every time it's a different series. Ashtanga can only be done one way and one way only and every breath, step, and utterance is prescribed and you can't add or remove anything from it. It even tells you where to look and when to squeeze your butthole, bellybutton, and neck.
>>27698868
I'm 5'7, 160 lbs, skinny with a belly.
I guess I could look sorta normal if I started exercising, but why would I?
Not like I ever go out other than to walk to work or buy food.
>>27698695
This is what killed the idea of lifting for me permanently. It made me realize that it won't change my face, it won't magically make me look attractive.
Half of these guys look like someone photoshopped their head on, but no, it's real. There's really no winning at this.
>>27698990
Ever thought about taking cock up the ass?
>>27699738
Also, since I pity you, here is what you need to get rid of those voluptuous tits of yours.
https://www.researchliquids.com/letrozole#.VwZ1bHRwbqA
Just as a warning, it may increase test by 150% it also blocks most estrogen from being made, so say goodbye to your silky smooth hairless body
>>27699485
Low testosterone is super easy to fix though. I can quintuple my testosterone in just 30 seconds. Facial structure takes about 45 minutes to change, but is also very easy, you just lay there and be yourself while the doctor does all the work. Same thing with height except recovery takes longer. Tiny joints can be changed too for the worse, but I'd rather tiny joints. It's like having a full head of hair or big dick, it's a good thing. Do you have any problems that actually are problems? Let me guess, you're poor? Just get a job. I make $35/hr. I started at $28 and with just a two year degree. The only real problem is being a shitty race and not in the USA or EU.
>>27699945
>Not for human consumption
?????
>>27699498
That's actually a good thing though. I avoid dark alleys in the inner city because niggers are endemic is those areas.
>>27698667
My hair is about the same length and color of that guys. Perhaps mine is a little thicker but that's about it. How to make my hair look like this? Does he use product?
>>27699878
>A whole head taller? Woah. Like I couldn't do math you spack.
What the hell is a spack?
>So cute~!
Fuck off gayboy.
>Well what DO you have going for you?
My health and a roof over my head. That's about it.
>>27699911
I'm jealous. Fuck off you lazy shit.
>>27699931
no, suck my dick faggot
>>27699945
>Also, since I pity you, here is what you need to get rid of those voluptuous tits of yours.
I don't want your snake oil.
>voluptuous tits
They're hardly "voluptuous" you dumb fuck.
>so say goodbye to your silky smooth hairless body
I think the hairlessness is due to being asian. Also how can you tell smoothness by a grainy photo?
>>27698695
stale pasta
but even so, the point isn't to look like Zyzz. it's to look better than the pasty bitch you are today.
Why do people always go on about lifting and then post pictures where abs are the focus?
>tfw eczema on 90% of body
>tfw lift but it's pointless since no one will ever see
>>27699983
It's for liability reasons, I use this exact same shit for when I'm blasting roids all the time.
It's a god send for water retention as well as Gyno
They can't just sell a controlled substance over the net and say it's for human consumption you sperg
>>27700019
>What the hell is a spack?
In britbong speak it means retard/spastic
>Fuck off gayboy
D-dont imply I found you cute baka
>I don't want your snake oil.
Did you seriously just imply letrozole was snake oil?
Hahaha
>They're hardly "voluptuous" you dumb fuck
Dude they're the most grope ble tits I've ever seen on a tran- I mean, boy
>>27698667
I literally don't leave my house unless I'm forced to. Not even to the store since mommy buys everything I need.
>>27700041
Because abs depend on body fat. Lifting makes you lose weight.
If you're abs are all you train and you lose body fat you will look like a gorilla with abs and Trex arms.
>>27700083
>blasting roids
Aren't you afraid of death?
>>27699738
>>27700019
do you have a feeling of deep emotional hurt when people call you a manlet?
>>27698990
not trying to tease you, but have you considered trapping? you look fairly smooth and invoke slight feels of boipucci.
>>27698667
I haven't been to a beach in 7 years, why the fuck would I start going now?
>>27700083
>Did you seriously just imply letrozole was snake oil?
>Hahaha
Yes let me trust a website with no oversight by the FDA to sell me a product called letrozole and believe it to actually be letrozole
>Dude they're the most grope ble tits I've ever seen on a tran- I mean, boy
They don't even stick out that much. and no im not a tranny you faggot. Stop sexualizing my body. Also, how does something like that even reverse gyno? I can see it preventing gyno from getting worse, but how the fuck do you even remove it outside of surgery?
>>27699867
A shitty normie gym with 1 squat rack and a few benches is $20/mo. GOMAD is around $3/day. Steroids and steroids accessories is $15/mo. This is all you need to get started on the path to swoleness. GOMAD is only 2.4k Cal but you can add potatoes, rice, pasta, etc. to get your calories in. Lifting is an awesome neet hobby. It makes a difference having time for long ass rest periods if you're strength training. I'd sometimes go as long as 6 or 7 minutes between sets. I hit 1/2/3/4 in a few 7 months while most at the gym had been lifting years and could barely do 5 reps of 1pl8 bench. I started as a skinnyfat skele too. No sports aside from riding my bike or swimming, and that was just for fun, I never saw it as exercise or training.
>>27700173
Stop shilling you g-d damned faggot
>>27698871
I did this in freshman year of hs.
Got a nice torso but was weak as shit
>>27700149
>do you have a feeling of deep emotional hurt when people call you a manlet?
yes
>not trying to tease you, but have you considered trapping? you look fairly smooth and invoke slight feels of boipucci.
My cousin dressed me up in her clothes a few times. Outside of that, no.
>>27698990
I would fuck you no homo and big cums
>>27700123
Uh no because I'm not a retard who doesn't use HCG or clomid WHILE they blast to keep your nuts in healthy condition
Cardio is also good for my roid enlarged heart
>Yes let me trust a website with no oversight by the FDA to sell me a product called letrozole and believe it to actually be letrozole
I can vouch for them senpai, legit stuff as well as their clomid. Don't know about the other stuff though
>They don't even stick out that much. and no im not a tranny you faggot. Stop sexualizing my body. Also, how does something like that even reverse gyno? I can see it preventing gyno from getting worse, but how the fuck do you even remove it outside of surgery?
Quick endocrinology lesson for you, spack boy, when test is produced in males it goes through a process called aromatization, that means it's turned into estrogen. Some bitche- I mean, boys like you, convert too much into estrogen. This chem completely inhibits test from being aromatised. Meaning all the test you produce is going to be test and not estrogen.
So it increases test by 150%
Your cute little tiptoes will be starved of estrogen and thus they will shrink
>>27699930
You have to get skinny to see what your face really looks like, anyone is ugly with a fat face
>>27700217
>My cousin dressed me up in her clothes a few times. Outside of that, no.
Yeah, she has a CD fetish.
She knows you'd make a sexier girl than herself.
You should start the transition.
You could be the next Bailey Jay
>>27700166
FDA is shit. Who cares if it's letro anyway. Most likely in is, but if you get an AI whet you wanted an AI why split hairs if it does everything exactly the same way? Drugs are dirt fucking cheap if you buy in bulk. It's not worth risking your reputation to sell fake or underdosed shit. If you love pharm shit so much that just buy the real thing from inhousepharmacy for 10x the price.
>>27700266
My skinny face looks like an emaciated Somalian crackhead no thank you
I have garbage genes
>>27700258
Meant for >>27700166
Original commento senpaitachi
>>27700258
Not that guy. But yeah I wouldn't take an anonymous recommendation to heart.
>>27700205
Do you even know what a shill is? I didn't mention a single thing that could be shilled in the entire post.
>>27700258
Letrozole gave me kidney pain for some reason, otherwise aromatase inhibitors are excellent from what I've heard. Wish I could have stuck with it for long enough to tell a difference but the pain was too much. High amounts of zinc can work as an aromatase inhib though, always makes me feel better (at least with optizinc.)
>>27700258
Testicles have nothing to do with health if you b&c. Clomid is fun for the huge loads but you don't need testicles if you are going to be on for life.
>>27700173
gyms can be cheap i'll give you that, but you aren't taking into account transportation. the best option would be a home gym and even those depend on having enough space and cash on hand. again a NEET doesn't usually have money
GOMAD is not cheap, most of the world milk is expensive. American milk is cheap as fuck because it's quality control is garbage. steroids? also not easy to get, also not safe if you don't know what the fuck you're doing
>>27700258
>I can vouch for them senpai, legit stuff as well as their clomid. Don't know about the other stuff though
Yes let me believe anonymous recommendations.
>Quick endocrinology lesson for you, spack boy, when test is produced in males it goes through a process called aromatization, that means it's turned into estrogen. Some bitche- I mean, boys like you, convert too much into estrogen. This chem completely inhibits test from being aromatised. Meaning all the test you produce is going to be test and not estrogen. So it increases test by 150%
Stop acting so smug you faggot. and don't call me a bitch. I know what endocrinology is and how it works.
>Your cute little tiptoes will be starved of estrogen and thus they will shrink
Maybe the fat but the breast tissue will still be there.
>>27700227
big homo
>>27700270
She's a fujoshi. She made me watch Okane ga nai once. Never again.
>>27700279
I still don't trust it. Looks shady af.
>>27698695
I just got back from the gym and feel like shit now. thanks
>be fat
>start lifting
>year and a half later
>got big
>still some fat
>don't want to cut because zyzz/curlbro/otter look is for fags
>girls my age (20) don't like body type like pic related
>girls 25+ fucking love it
just
>>27698695
I don't even care about looking good in order to have a GF, I care about looking good for the sake of it
I would wear a mask if there was no law against it
>>27700323
Try anastrozole if letro is too much senpai.
>>27700350
When SHTF I might not have access to roids, so it's always good to have a backup plan.
Plus I like the way it makes my nuts swell back to normal.
>>27700421
>Yes let me believe anonymous recommendations.
You can trust me bby~
>Stop acting so smug you faggot. and don't call me a bitch. I know what endocrinology is and how it works.
Then don't ask dumb questions you little pussy boy.
Take my advice, don't take my advice, do whatever.
Hopefully you keep the cute attitude though. Meow.
>Maybe the fat but the breast tissue will still be there.
No the breast tissue goes as well, if you knew endocrinology in the slightest you'd believe me
I meant titties not tiptoes. Fuckin autocorrect.
>>27700447
every girl like visible abs, even if you have spaghetti arms
the only ones that say otherwise are fat and lazy
>>27700447
that's not you faggot, you got that off google. post your body. so far there has only been one actual "builtfat" guy itt
>>27700447
This pic is so old, you really think people are gonna believe it's you? Lol
>>27700479
>Try anastrozole if letro is too much senpai.
I might do that, thank you based anon. Also I probably should have said this before but I was taking way too much letrozole, especially considering how long the half life is (apparently it lasts four days if I remember correctly.)
>>27700447
>girls don't like it
Well shit. That was my goal. What now?
>>27700514
The half life is 2 days, anything above 2.5mg a day is way too much. Letro is so potent that I'd even say 2.5mg is a bit much.
>>27700447
girls want boys that look like girls
woman want men
>>27700509
>>27700508
didnt day it was me. And i dont need to. Why would I lie on r9k.
fags
>>27700398
Transportation is as easy as walking, driving, or biking to the gym. Home gym is maybe $500 for state of the art beginner gym, you'd need maybe twice that if strongman or Olympic elite. American milk is cheap because of subsidization, all food is cheap in America despite having some of the tightest QC in the world. Steroids are easy to get and perfectly safe if you know what you're doing.
At this point it's clear you are just making excuses. If you can't gomad then fuckit, 600g black beans is about the same amount of protein as milk. Yuros have that gross chunky yogurt shit that is cheap and has even more protein that American ricotta.
>>27700572
>filename is moi
>>27700562
>heartshaped pupils
If girls had that when they approved of something everything would be so much simpler.
>>27700479
>Then don't ask dumb questions you little pussy boy.
What dumb question did I even ask? and I'm not a pussy.
>Hopefully you keep the cute attitude though. Meow.
Go run into oncoming traffic pls
>No the breast tissue goes as well, if you knew endocrinology in the slightest you'd believe me
No it doesn't you tard.
>>27700566
No they don't. Otherwise I'd be drowning in pussy. Maybe in Asia.
>>27700578
>Home gym is maybe $500 for state of the art beginner gym
Also a lot of times you can use Craigslist and get a weight set and bench for like $50 to $100. It may be rusty as hell but use gloves and it'll work perfectly fine.
>>27700641
Are you part Japanese or something? I can tell you don't even gotta answer.
Not a full on jap boy though right?
Post more pics little one, I need to decide whether you should kys or not.
>>27700722
How can you tell aside from me bitching and moaning constantly on this board about it
Not a full on jap boy though right?
yes only partial
>Post more pics little one, I need to decide whether you should kys or not.
How about you kill yourself
Because I don't want to be seen in public.
Lol you faggots come up with so many excuses to not improve your lives.
Just fucking lift you idiots. Pic related is me after 2 years of lifting. I may not be the best looking guy but I'm better than I was.
>>27700785
Because I'm pretty much god. I'm amazing.No I just know who you are you dumb faggot. Your name starts with k.
>>27700839
nope. nice try though.it starts with a T
>>27698667
Because lifting doesn't make me feel better about myself, and lifting doesn't make me more attractive to women either.
I worked out for a year and gained a lot of muscle, and literally nothing changed in my life, didn't get any more attention at all, or anything. There was nothing positive about it, other than I look more healthy in a mirror.
Lifting is a meme.
>>27700878
But srsly tho, how about them pics bby.
>>27700904
Fine here's one and the only one I'll post. No bully pls.
>tfw gyno and no money for surgery
Truly there is no greater form of suffering.
I do lift, but I look like crap, I'm a 24 year old who could pass for 15 if I really tried
>>27698922
Define "improve"
>>27700944
I love you. Wanna see my lewd dick Anon?
>>27700959
im sorry but the resemblance is uncanny
>>27700785
if you put on a nice skirt and take an assshot of yourself i will fap to you
>>27700992
no im not a faggot
>>27701001
how about no
>>27700959
you look fat
i can see the fat at the bottom of your stomach very clearly
you need to lose some weight first you idiot
you are still a fatty, don't lie to yourself
>>27701031
Nope, look at the contour of the breast. If it was only fat there would be more consistency. Its a small amount of gland, but gyno nonetheless.
>>27698667
6'5" Ectomorph skeleton
It takes way too much bullshit for me to actually get a "reasonable" body, I'm better off just sticking to cardio.
>>27701025
Post arm pit you huge cock polisher.pretty pls?
>>27700499
Jesus had great abs.
>>27701077
see >>27698990
and I'm not a cock polisher.
What do I have to do to improve this disgusting body? I don't want to be muscular, I just want to get fit like OP pic. Do I really need to go to the gym or can I just exercise at home?
>>27700818
Two years and you've barely changed at all?
How old were you in the left pic, like 16 years old? The development comes more from the fact that you're actually an adult now, your gains are pretty minimal.
>>27701096
>dont want to be muscular
>just fit
>like OP pic
8/10
>>27701119
I mean, I don't care about strong arms and all that.
>>27701090
Ever thought about trapping it up though? Do you think you could pass as a tranny?
>>27698667
My face will be ugly and my personality will be shit even if I'm ripped. Height isn't a problem for me (5'11"), but at best I'd be a male butterface.
>>27701136
you realize that the guy in OP went through at the very least 2 bulk and cut cycles to get like that right? he probably spent some time cocooning, being fat, until he got all shredded and looks like he does currently
i fucking hate it when noobs underestimate how hard shit is
>>27698667
Because it's too much effort for too little result in my opinion. Not even the obtaining of enough muscle, I could try and push myself to where I'd ideally want to be. But the continuous effort to keep the muscle mass up is too much of a hassle for me.
Working out is not nearly satisfying enough for me to stay motivated or do it as some hobby.
I don't want to spend years forcing myself to do something I don't particularly enjoy much to hit my goal, only to then continue forcing myself to avoid losing all the gains at ridiculous rate.
Spending half a year for a tiny gain only to lose it all within 2 weeks of doing next to nothing is not something I'm interested in.
Besides, I'm close to ottermode already, I'm comfortable enough with my body even if I'd ideally go for bigger and stronger arms, stronger core, broader shoulders / better posture, and bigger calves; basically improve what I already have average enough to live with.
Unless I'll somehow find motivation for or enjoyment in working out, my average body will have to suffice.
>>27701167
I don't understand about any of that shit, man. What should I do?
>>27701146
I probably could but don't want to.
>>27701116
I was 17. Lol you make it sound like all I did was go through puberty. The pic on the left was after like a year and a half of lifting and I was cutting for the summer.
Do the stretch-scars on the guy in ops picture hurt his appearance significantly?
I have them all over. Both because getting fat and bulk.
>>27701228
>Lol you make it sound like all I did was go through puberty
Yeah that's pretty much all you did.
>>27701096
Just read the sticky, lift weights with fullbody lifts, eat clean, supplement properly etc. Also, you say "I don't want to be muscular" which sounds really funny considering you have to work hard as fuck to be muscular. Even so, if you were ever too muscular for your tastes, you could simply workout at a caloric deficit which would cut bodyfat and lessen muscle a bit depending on the deficit.
But I do lift and run a lot if only just to drown the sorrow a little.
>>27701331
Lol you got it bro.
Post your pic so I'll have something to aspire to.
>>27701096
>I dont want to be muscular
People say this like you magically grow muscles and its not the result of years of training
>be fat
>lift
>look like this
JUST
I looked better before lifting. The growing pecs have only made my gyno pop out further.
I'm 5'8 225lbs
>>27701472
cut down and you will look good.
look at>>27699018
>>27701472
So why don't you just go on a cut?
>>27701472
You look strong and manly what the fuck is the problem? Manly man look > skinny cuck boy with "muscles"
>>27700421
>fujoshi
Yeah, she wants to see your boipussy pounded even more than I do.
You should transition.
You'd make more money than a career banker
>>27701472
You look better than the average person. Eat less fat and carbs and make up the difference with protein. You are also very early on in your journey. Carry on you cuck.
>>27701522
>Yeah, she wants to see your boipussy pounded even more than I do.
I wouldn't put it past her to, but why you?
>You should transition.
no
>You'd make more money than a career banker
Highly doubtful. Why are so many trannies poor then?
>>27701472
keep lifting and eating, you'll be tank in a few weeks.
>>27701607
I want to see it because you're a qt.
Maybe your cousin will even let you fuck her, who knows.
It's honestly a win win
>no
Why not? No one would tell that you used to be a dude, bitches would be jealous, and you could get infinite orbiters to pay all your bills.
Most trannies aren't even remotely passable btw
>>27699930
As if every girl is into filthy sandniggers like zyzz. Some actually have some self respect.
>>27701676
>I want to see it because you're a qt.
no
>Maybe your cousin will even let you fuck her, who knows.
ew
>Why not? No one would tell that you used to be a dude, bitches would be jealous, and you could get infinite orbiters to pay all your bills.
Nice pipe dreams there. I'd just end up in prostitution because no one would hire me. Not gonna happen familam
>tfw skinny arms, chubby stomach
>don't know if i should lose or gain weight
>no motivation to fall for /fit/ness meme
SING ME TO SLEEP
>>27701922
Work out, eat clean+keto and take aromatase inhibitors (zinc, nettle, etc.) Although it's very difficult to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, that's your best shot.
>>27701969
dont listen to this memeshit
all you need is a 500 calorie surplus bulk, with clean food. then when you're ready to cut, 500 deficit, again clean foods, high protein
so tired of these fad diets and routines, just do it like the classics back in the 70s did it
I'm pretty skinny and I think I look pretty good the way I am. The girl I'm in love with says she thinks my stomach and chest are really sexy, and I don't work out at all and I eat like shit. I'm not really trying to impress other girls, so I don't really see the point in going through all that effort for nothing.
Plus I use drugs and smoke all the time, which makes me burn out faster when I try running or lifting weights or whatever. I'm not ever gonna quit those, since they make my life actually livable.
>>27699576
better to fill with sand than water.
or wet sand.
>>27698695
My inserts are better than Zyzz's tho. Like him, I have pre-existing heart problems, but I found out before doing roids so I outlived him.
I'll never be able to unlock my full potential without risking my life, but I'm comfy at 175lbs/6'0
All of you should life even if you weren't born with exceptional genetics, it makes you feel good and gives you a reason to leave the basement
Only weak spot I would change is the rounding at the bottom of my inner pecs to square it outalso wish my hair and cheekbones were better
Even all of this doesn't cure depression or undo the social retardation of being a shut in for 8 years, I'm learning how to behave around other people slowly though and at least I'm not autistic
>>27701167
You don't have to necessarily be fat on a bulk. Sure you put on some fat but if you keep it to a minimal (aka clean bulk) you can still look relatively ok
>>27701472
All you have to do is go on a cut and you will look great.
>going to the beach
>>27698667
Because I'm fat and feel the need to become skinny...
I probably would become ripped quickly if I started lifting since my body changes quickly, but I would probably still hate myself.
> working out for girls
> working out for looks
> working out for others
This is fucking omega tier.
You either workout for yourself so that you feel healthy, get a routine and conquer your body or you don't work out at all. Everything else is optional and comes as a bonus if it's ment to be. You can be the king of manlets and there will never be anything wrong with you working out and pushing yourself.
The biggest beta cucks are the people who lift for pussy or who look down on others who are trying to work on their own bodies to get in shape.
>>27702357
What if I want to work out for military/myself/ to get a bf?
>>27700310
>implying you arent shilling gym memberships
>>27702017
Exactly what about that was "memeshit"?
>>27698695
Lift for yourself so you look and feel good for yourself. thats called being alpha. Alphas don't need anyone else and they are successful because they don't live their lives for others. The pussy they get is a bonus because women don't want to mate with insecure faggots who just want to get in their pants. The reason they don't go for former fedoras who got in shape is because they can tell the difference between a real man and a fake beta with muscles.
>>27702796
it's just unnecessary, additional BS that complicates things and confuses beginners
>>27702357
Fucking this
Not fucking original at all
>>27698667
This is EXACTLY the look I'm aiming for. Still ages off but damn pic related looks perfect.
>>27702516
As long as you working out for yourself is top priority, you will succeed. Working out for X reasons will always leave doubt in your head or will make you disappointed if you still can't get X. You will always reach the result of becoming healthy if you work out properly and not use dirty shit. So you will never be disappointed this way.
Relationships can come as a sideffect and you should view it as such. But generally, if you work out and have a routine you will build additional confidence which might help you with a relationship. MIGHT help. People who think that working out = relationship 100% of the time are delusional.
>>27702357
>implying even 5% of the people at a gym "Work out for themselves"
Face it nigger, everyone works out to get laid with Stacies.
If you think you aren't, you're a fucking lying faggot.
>>27699930
>Half of these guys look like someone photoshopped their head on
Actually all of them look like that. They're all fucking ugly with great muscular bodies. They're literally the male equivalent of butterface.
Haven't worked out in two years. Lately I've been working so much and am so stressed out that for some reason all I want to do is work out. Don't really care for getting swole, just want to clear my head a few times a week. Just bought some gym clothes and got a membership so I'll go training in half an hour.
