Fuck it robots, I'm not going to end up like you.
I'm 23 year old virgin I learned my lesson.
I am literally dropping my standards to nothing.
I will fuck anything that moves, goodbye virginity and hello whales and uggo's.
I make six figures & hit the gym, I'm going to fuck hundreds of ugly women.
Ok, OP. Ok
You will still be depressed. Women can't help with that.
>>27471436
falling for the 3d meme and not wanting wizard powers
what is wrong with you
24 going strong
>>27471436
22 here. Had a dream about my ex-girlfriend last night.
Now I've gone out and bought healthy. No more soda and shit for me. Gonna buy a phone to apply for a job today too.
>>27471436
People like you are the ones that inflate the egos of landwhales settling for nothing less than Chad. You are part of the problem. If you don't give women the time of day they will be forced to drop to realistic standards eventually.
>>27471436
>I'm not going to end up like you.
>I will fuck anything that moves, goodbye virginity and hello whales and uggo's.
Yeah, you're going to end up cucked by child support.
>>27471436
I did the same years ago and went after 300+ pound land whales. guess where that got me? I'm still a touchless virgin at 28 because they all told me that I want attractive enough. to be fair I'm a 2/10 at best.
>>27471886
holy shit that's hilariousit's not og but it's og
>>27471761
you missed the part where I'm a 23 year old virgin.
>>27471436
I did it, got with 2 fatties in 3 years span, both dumped me soon
there is no escape, brother
Did this at 19, regret it. I'm still horny as ever, only for decent women
>>27472038
That's not even that old, I'm 24 and I still have no strong desires to "settle" for someone. Some anon here said it best, why settle when you are better off alone.
>>27471832
That, and False Rape accusations.
Have fun in court
>>27472145
never said I'd settle.
I'm gonna FUCK these women.
I gave up on relationships a long time ago senpai.
I have EVERYTHING in life except sex/girlfriend.
It is killing me inside to not experience sex.
if I can fuck something..it'll clear my conscience and I'll continue enjoying life.
I feel inferior to homeless people who aren't virgins, this virginity shit fucks me up bad.
Besides I seen some porn vids of chubby girls and it seems pretty hot sometimes (there comes a point they become blubber whale and it's just gross as fuck.)
But if I can just find the WHORES in the ugly department, I'll be okay. I just show up to their house, they take off clothes and we fuck.
I'd prob feel ashamed if I had to hang out with them in public or something. As long as no one finds out, I don't care.
>>27472232
>if I can fuck something..it'll clear my conscience and I'll continue enjoying life.
And what will you do when you finally fuck some nasty whore and still feel like shit? Or feel even shittier for having done it.
>>27472524
please, stop trying to discourage me, this has been haunting me for many years. If I don't fuck something I'll continue to think that fucking a woman will make me feel better, at the very least I need to get THIS feeling away.
>>27471436
You'll set your standards to nothing and you STILL won't find anyone to fuck.
It's more to do with your attitude than your standards.
You having "standards" is part of the reason you're a 23yo virgin.
You just wanting to fuck is part of the reason you're a 23yo virgin.
Just date a girl you like, and then eventually fuck her. For fuck sake it's not so hard.
>>27473126
I don't like women though after being rejected so much.
>>27473170
You probably DO like women, you just always go for the shitty ones, and that's why you think all women are shitty.
To be fair, 99% of them ARE shitty, but think of it like this: You can't expect "The one" girl to be common like the average girl.
>>27472524
Leave him alone man what the fuck is your problem. Let him do it and love it or do it and hate his life who gives a shit
>>27473286
Why do I have to look for a woman I like when all I want is sex?
What you don't seem to realize is that all I want is lots of sex in my life.
It could be with a retard with a low IQ, or some jobless single mom living off benefits, it makes no difference to me.
>>27473126
>Just date a girl you like, and then eventually fuck her. For fuck sake it's not so hard.
As somebody who meets new women and tries hard to be liked by them I resent this statement and wish to engage in hand-to-hand combat
>>27473339
What YOU don't realize is that women easily sense that desperation and that MAKES them not wanna fuck you.
Also, if you go with a condescending mentality towards a girl she'll sense that too.
Oh and pro tip. The average female isn't too fond of just being used as a vagina. I suggest dating a grill and eventually fucking her would be faster than lowering your standards.
>>27473371
>new women
>plural
Why is it multiple women?
Do it anon! It will feel good! Just dump her afterwards. That way it would not boost her ego.
>>27473286
>99% of them ARE shitty
>just look for teh wun bro
rofl
>>27473371
>>27473399
I have been rejected by 300+ women ,many I knew for at least several months, and some for 4-5+ years.
I was roommates with a chad who fucked 2+ women a week, he had a few women who he used solely for sex, and I used to be in the party scene where girls told me they only want sex, as they swiped through tinder. They even told me they don't want to see the guys face again
You're either a femanon, or a white knight, the only reason I don't care about women anymore is because I been rejected so much by my "best friends" women I knew for a long time, women who were suicidal about being lonely and always confided in me, only to reject me.
Getting stood up at prom, getting stood up by 3 dates a month, friendzoned countless times.
>>27473448
What's your point? Do you seriously expect to walk up to the first girl you see and think "he's gonna be my lifelong mate, I'm gonna marry her and we're gonna make babies together"?
>>27471436
>already lowered standards to nothing
>no one wants me
This is what it's like to be an actual robot. Only normalfags can afford to have standards and turn down people.
>>27473520
Yeah, that's exactly what I expect, you nailed me anon
If you don't see the insane fallacy of "just find that one great girl underneath all the shit" I can't help you
Anon don't. Don't fuck hundreds. Be a little bit choosy. There's mathematical models for choosing partners effectively.
In short it's: skip a third (let's say you decide to base your choice on 9 subjects). So you do something like go on tinder, just swipe everyone. See what hooks. Now you can apply this by either sorting them superficially or decide to see how you fare in conversation (conversation is more accurate).
Now likely you can fuck someone, but for the sake of mankind don't. You skip a third of the people who you can move forward with. Basically if they're like 'wanna hook up'. You don't go for it. 3 of them. Plenty of fish in the sea.
Then you take your sample of 3 and rate them. Use the highest as your standard. For choosing future partners. This is the problem that's solved. A third (36% more specifically) is the optimal number iirc. You probably get the best outcome. And that goes for all of us. Because you'd be taking uggo's from uglier men who can't get your tier.
As for long term http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5050284/Will-true-love-last-Mathematical-model-may-provide-the-answer.html
This is a very good study. You can look for signs during a relationship. And be realistic about your chances. Don't aim low. The ROI is very high on quality marriage.
>>27473509
To pick up chicks at clubs and use them only for sex, you need to be a Chad. There's no way around it. It's degenerate, but that's how it works.
I'm simply a guy who has never been interested in any females, so I've never been in a relationship, but at 17 I met a very nice grill, and I've been with her for almost two years now.
I fucking SNIPED that bitch.
>women who were suicidal about being lonely and always confided in me, only to reject me
You seem to think that you'd get something out of this. You don't realize you're being cucked and used for her attention.
>getting stood up
You have shitty taste in women
>friendzoned
That's your fault for being a faggot.
>>27473520
Holy crap, who are you and why are you on this board?
Majority of guys on this planet are decent human beings, and your stupid ass thinks this "1%" is available to every male just because he wants them.
Can't get any dumber than you.
>>27473584
Explain it to me, then. Because it makes NO sense to me that you seriously think you can connect on an intimate level to everybody you see.
>>27471436
I never had any "standards" and I'm a 27 y.o. virgin
>>27471436
Why not just hire a prostitute with all that money if you want to lose your virginity that badly
>>27473653
I found someone I was able to connect to on an intimate level.
I am now paying $2,500 in child support every month while finding out the child wasn't even mine.
I would like to recommend this experience for all you gentleman who are interested in finding their unicorn, it's worth the hunt to end up like me.
>>27473631
>Majority of guys on this planet are decent human beings
That's wrong as fuck. The majority of guys on this planet are people who wanna fuck, which is understandable, I wanna fuck too.
The problem is that they JUST wanna fuck, and they don't seem to realize that women aren't into that.
There is a mate for everyone out there. If some guys are such faggots that they can't find the one girl for them, then I say it's good that they won't breed.
>>27473700
>There is a mate for everyone out there.
Actually, there isn't. The sex ratio at birth in most countries is something like 1.05 boys to every 1 girl (in some countries it's as high as 1.15 or 1.2 to 1).
There is a boy for every girl, but there isn't a girl for every boy.
>>27473700
>i wanna fuck too
>women don't just wanna fuck
Women don't want casual sex is what you're saying.
That means women don't want to fuck.
>>27473700
Are you a femanon or a white knight?
Your posts are cringy.
There are men who literally impregnate 10+ women. Yet we have an equivalent population.
If there was a woman for every man out there, then that would mean you're including cucked relationships.. women who don't like their partner/etc.
You're so fucking stupid.
And if you think someone isn't a decent human being for wanting to fuck (LITERALLY why they exist.) then go elsewhere with your religious bullshit.
People aren't villains for fulfilling their life's purpose.
>>27471710
After about 3 months of being with them, they tend to make it even worse by controlling you and telling you what you can and cant do
>>27471436
Here is your (You)
You are throwing your youth and virginity to the swine instead of getting a partner that values and understand it
>>27473741
You get what I mean though. Don't use bullshit excuses to deny your faggotry.
Lemme tell you, I'm a huge faggot degenerate, and even I can get female attention.
>technically
If you wanna get technical, include the higher male mortality rate. Boom.
>>27473509
>300+ women
do you just walk up to every woman you see and ask her to fuck you
stop exaggerating
>>27473782
> people who don't get women are faggots
You're the guy who's trying to give advice?
Not everyone wants to lower their standards idiot.
Where I live 40% of women are overweight and a large percentage have children, and many are ugly.
I'm not a faggot because I can't score the 5% who are decently attractive.
>>27473756
Roasties in clubs want to fuck hot chads.
1) This sucks if you're not a chad
2) If you wanna fuck a club roastie, you're disgusting imo
The average woman is looking for a relationship that also includes sex.
The average guy is looking for casual sex.
What a lot of robots forget is that there are different kinds of women. You can't just go "(all) women dont want casual sex" because there are shit like roasties and nice grills.
>>27473780
>tfw catching up on thread
>no (you)'s
>get to the bottom and see a (you)
>it was black
I'm so sick of this. I don't leave the house and not even 4chan talks to me anymore. 8 threads open. Multiple replies each. 0 (you)'s.
I should just pretend to be a girl.
>>27473831
I been asking women out since 16.
You think it's impossible to ask out 300 women in a 7 year span?
It's easy to do that within a YEAR.
I had loads of female friends, when they're single I ask them out.
If you were part of the social scene in high school, you'd easily rack up to at minimum 200 women by the time you graduate.
>>27473760
I'm just a dude.
I'm dude who is in a two year long relationship and I've stuck my dick in a vagina before so I imagine my advice would be worth hearing out. Even if I were a virgin, people should consider other people's advice.
You're an idiot. I said in a previous post "which iss understandable, I wanna fuck too".
>>27473700
Your post proves again that women love sociopaths. You're incapable of empathy, you equate male virginity with evil, you believe in a just world.
You never suffered bullying, you're not short, not ugly and you're incapable of seeing past your own experience of life.
You also suck at understanding statistics and biology but that's a whole other kind of problem.
>>27473831
>>27473861
>guy asks out 300+ women
>is single and has been rejected
>guy carefully chooses a qt nice grill to date
>is in a relationship and fugs
Maybe I'm just being a cuck for being with a girl I like, but hey, that's just my opinion.
>>27473835
I meant faggot in the "beta faggot" sense.
I never told you to lower your standards. In fact, I'm AGAINST lowering standards.
See, you're only basing your scan of women by their attractiveness.
Honest question: Have you ever tried looking for a girl you'd like having a relationship with? Like a real nerdy piece of shit type girl. Not fake attention whoring nerdy, either.
All I'm saying is that you might be happier with a girl like that.
>>27473861
>female friends
>when they're single, i ask them out
So your motivation for a "relationship" is just them being single.
See, that's the problem. You don't actually WANT a relationship with them, you just want ANY single girl.
Women can clearly see how much of a thirsty motherfucker you are if you ask girls out just because they're single.
>>27473957
>nerdy girls are accessible
Anon I've been trying to contact oneitis for 3 years. There's just no way.
>>27473912
>women love sociopaths
Some women love sociopaths. I tend to AVOID THOSE WOMEN AND GO FOR THE NICE ONES
>incapable of empathy
I empathize with other faggots such as myself. The problem is that said faggots are so in denial that they make up shit like your excuses just to save their own ego.
>equate male virginity with evil
I dont give a shit if anyone's a virgin. I really don't. What I hate is how beta someone can be that they refuse helpful advice just to be in their comfort zone.
>you never suffered bullying
I had two kids beat the shit out of me every single day from elementary school to 9th grade.
I stopped being a faggot in 10th grade.
>you're not short, not ugly
I'm 5'4 and have a recesisve chin and shitty facial features
>you're incapable of seeing past your own experience of life
IRONIC. You're the one in denial.
>You also suck at understanding statistics and biology
You were the one that brought up statistics and biology from my coloquial phrase. It's just a sentence, dude.
>>27474004
Tell me, why do you like your oneitis? \ What do you like about her? I'm honestly, genuinely interested.
>>27473619
why use them for sex though? why not enjoy the damn sex together like it's meant to be, a goddamn intimate experience between two persons???
>>27474148
Why the fuck are you twisting around my words in EVERY single post I make?
Are you a fucking idiot or just replying to me for attention and (You)s?
>>27473850
i'll talk to you. Hello guy. Feeling ok today?
>>27473700
depends on what the other person wants, to be honest. To me, even if it's a one night stand, I try to be there for the person as a whole and not just as a fuckstick for her, nor treat her as a pleasure hole but as a goddamn person.
It's not about having a mate for everyone, it's about being willing to have enough self confidence to attract one amongst the many reasonably attractive women we all come in contact with in our daily lives every different day
>>27474062
This was my first reply to you, dude.
You're the one who said that
>If some guys are such faggots that they can't find the one girl for them, then I say it's good that they won't breed.
What is your advice for a 27 years old virgin who is 5'4 and ugly as fuck? Ugly as in, women actually find my appearance disgusting.
>hurr lose weight
I couldn't even become fat if I wanted to
>hurr job
I'm employed
>hurr personality
I have friends and no problem making new ones.
>>27474197
>it's about being willing to have enough self confidence to attract one amongst the many reasonably attractive women we all come in contact with in our daily lives every different day
So the embodiment of "Chad", by /r9k/'s standards.
I personally don't like one night stands myself, I prefer having a relationship, and fapping when necessary, but you have the correct mentality.
>>27471436
>banging ugly women
Why would anyone do that, but i guess it depends on how ugly were talking about, for sure not erection-killing ugly
>>27474161
Look buddy I just arrived into this thread. I don't know who you are, and you sound like you're insecure about something because of your reaction just now so chill brah, I bear no ill will towards you nor I want your attention. Now let's all relax and try and contribute.
>>27471761
This. all you are doing is making the problem worse. women see uggos getting laid, they raise their own standards
>>27474236
>i said that
I'm giving advice to a few lonely\virgin\single\faggot robots. If they refuse to listen, then it's a good thing that they don't breed. It doesn't have anything to do with evil, really. It's more about darwinism and natural selection.
>advice
Look for a girl who is equally or more degenerate than you.
Im sure you understand that if you go for a girl who is the mainstream idea of "hot" you'll get rejected hardcore.
What I'm proposing is you find a girl who is like you, and you can be happy with her.
Weight\job\social rank are just physical attributes. Try to not think of those as much and focus on the connection you have (or may have in the future) with a grill.
You're focusing on the things roasties use to reject you. What, are you TRYING to catch roasties?
If a grill rejects you for a weight\job\social reason, then she's a shitty person and thus not a good candidate for a long term relationship. Makes sense, right?
>>27474236
The problem is, you see yourself as ugly and unattractive, and it probably seeps into your own body language and behavior. And if there's something that's a massive turn-off, it's lack of confidence.
A lot of people mistake unattractiveness with being ugly. People come in too many shapes and morphologies, and trust me, even if you looked like a goddamn 10/10 if you lack the attitude to back it up no one is going to want to even talk to you.
You can't choose what you look like, but you should focus on what you can actually control. Oh, and for fuck's sake, quit using virgin like a sign on your goddamn forehead. You're inexperienced, and that's okay. But don't be upset about it. No one is born knowing, just accept it.
People often think optimism is hurr durr I'm gettin laid tonight. No. It's about thinking that you can get laid tonight, while also accepting the possibility that failure is also an outcome. It's about facing social rejection because you fucked up, and instead of taking it to heart, improving from it and eventually become a stronger person out of it.
>>27474084
That she once loved me with the passion only kids have, but i was too of a faggot/edgelord to settle for her, creating all the excuses there are to not allow me recgnozie my feeling for her and instead hiding behind rethoric and logic and "doing the right thing" like if someone will ever give me a prize for my integrity
Fuck me
Fuck my life
Fuck the world
>>27474405
This anon knows what's up.
If you're attractive you're already set.
If you're not attractive, you can still get a grill through sheer charisma.
>>27474405
You can't just "gain confidence", you can't just "be cool". Do you know how much bullshit I've done to fit in? Bought designer gear, took part in normie shit that I didn't care about, didn't do jack shit because at the end of the day I was born with a personality that repels people. Nothing we can do about this.
>>27474084
She's a girl I met in secondary school. We knew each other well. Used to call her on her home phone and stuff. Basically she's one of a kind. She's smart and kind. She doesn't have conventional beauty but that doesn't matter. She has issues with her feet. Really awkward walk, have a similar condition except the opposite. It's how we started talking. By the end of secondary school I added her on Facebook she had just gotten her account. To this day she has less than 20 posts. And no engagement in any of the FB stuff.
That's really all I can find of her online aside from a picture of her where she got an award. It's seriously creepy to me how much I creep on her. You have no idea. I'm a software dev so Web crawling is my primary method. I've concluded which university she went to. And if she's still working where she got an award I know her work place. But going there is severe stalker territory. Called her home phone but it's a dead end. Don't quite feel like contacting her mom (only relative) any other way. And knowing her she probably wouldn't tell me. I'd have to specifically ask her to ask her daughter if it's OK.
I'm just so worried about the FB stuff. I removed my request and put it up again. No response and she's done a post since.
She's great though. I don't wanna fuck this up. So I'm terrified of coming off as a creep by being too forward. I don't use FB much either. But my account is recognizable to be me unlike hers.
>>27474426
So it's not a problem of contacting her.
It's a problem of her being ready to do stuff with you and you accidentally rejecting HER.
You're not proving me wrong here anon.
I would suggest it's time to let go if you cant contact her in 3 years. The more you drag it out the worse it'll feel.
>>27474543
You're clearly a creep
>>27474538
You CAN gain confidence. I'm living proof that you can. Having that defeatist attitude isn't helping you at all.
>doing shit to fit in
Wrong
>bought designer gear
Wrong
>doing things you dont really care to do
Wrong
>nothing can be done about this
Wrong
I can fix you up if you're up for it, but considering your defeatist attitude, I feel like you'd prefer to sit there and complain about being sad, instead of doing something about it.
You know what that reminds me of? Feminazis and SJW tumblrettes.
>>27474256
I'm no Chad. I have very little time to devote to building a proper body image. As of now, even going up flights of stairs whenever I can, I'm still kinda chubby and pale.
My hobbies aren't exactly the Chad embodiment. I suck at traditional team sports, too, and let's face it, I enjoy science too much to be a Chad.
That only stopped me from getting laid until I realized it was stupid to think of women wanting Chads. They don't care if you look like a hollywood superstar or that hottie from their boysband. They care if you put in the attitude and as much effort you can put in looking as good for them as possible.
What women like about me, for instance, is the confidence and even the pride I take in them without being overly insistent or creepy.
>>27474538
dude, you totally can. It's just not as easy as doing a 4 hour workout reel with eye of the tiger on the background. It's a matter of looking at yourself, digging deep down and asking yourself where are you gonna be, who are you gonna be, and how you're gonna do it.
That defeatist attitude, the 'I was born with a personality that repels people' is what's keeping you from success. All that bullshit from self-help books? It's true, and it isn't.
Optimism isn't about sunshine, rainbows, and drugs. People who are like that end up with their expectations betrayed and get depressed sooner and faster than anyone else.
Optimism is seeing reality as what it is, and believing that a change can happen. That a difference can be made. That success is possible, and when failure happens, EMBRACE it. Failure is how you learn. You tried to fit in, and you failed, and guess what? That's totally fine, motherfucker. Just don't let it get to your self-esteem. You need to learn to get it from yourself.
How so? Step by step. Little by little. Victory by victory over yourself, achieving small things before going for the big event. Godspeed, anon.
>>27474543
Don't worry about the creeping. I do that shit too.
>Don't quite feel like contacting her mom
Why not? You seem to have an option available, you just don't go with it.
Also, why isn't she contacting you, or rejecting your contacts?
>afraid to fuck this up
A lot of people have this mentality. You're either gonna be with her or be exactly where you are now. Don't be a faggot and go for her mang.
Trust me. Just do it. It's better to make a move instead of regretting it.
>>27474673
Yes. Clearly. But I just want to contact her. If I had a phone number I'd just call. It's not like I consider her my only option but she's by far the best girl I've met and FB is the only communication channel I have. I don't see why she didn't add me back in secondary school though.
Also it's important to note that both of us were very mature (but clearly not romantically mature because I was afraid to ask her) at that age. Fairly alienated from the rest of the class and what was being taught. It's not like I'm crushing on the idea of a typical 15 year old.
Seriously she'd pass for your average second year at my STEM focused university.
>>27474756
>They don't care if you look like a hollywood superstar or that hottie from their boysband. They care if you put in the attitude and as much effort you can put in looking as good for them as possible.
>What women like about me, for instance, is the confidence and even the pride I take in them without being overly insistent or creepy.
Once again you nail it. I honestly couldn't put it better myself.
Listen to this anon, he knows what's up.
>>27473957
I have tried, it's what led me down to this path, because they rejected me. I fell in love with a girl and I had feelings for her several years after the rejection.
I'm an ex-orbiter.
>>27474354
I doubt there are any girls like that, anon. From raves to new age groups, yoga and taichi clubs, hiking with hippie people, everywhere the girls wanted attractive guys. I have a lot of interesting friends now.
>>27474405
>The problem is, you see yourself as ugly and unattractive
No, I've been told by several girls that I was ugly, including friends. No one even tries to deny it when the subject comes up, they just look concerned and sad. This is when I understood that I wasn't normal.
I take note of all the advice I'm given but I'm beginning to think it might be better for my mental health to try to make peace with the idea of dying alone.
Anyway, thank you and good night.
>>27474806
I'll tell you exactly what you need to do:
>realize it's a faggot thing to do to love\like a girl after being rejected
>get over her
>if you're a nerd, for example, go to nerdy places
>find a qt nerd (example) girl
>invite her to go do stuff
>befriend her
>date her
>you know what to do from there
Worked for me :/
>>27474756
Kill yourself
ghdshie
>>27474827
Obviously, like I've stated many times above, a girl that's good for you is gonna be INCREDIBLY rare.
>raves to new age groups, yoga and taichi clubs, hiking with hippie people
Why the fuck are you going to these places, or why the fuck are you trying to interact with people like this? Are YOU like this?
If not, then go find people who ARE like you, and interact with those.
>>27474827
see that's the thing. You're letting other people validate you. You come off a complex, people tell you something you don't like (possibly based on said complex rather than your actual looks, and if they are such an issue you can always turn for help to fix those on science) and it leads you off into a slippery slope of 'oh i can't do anything about it', instead of doing whatever you can to fix your issue.
>>27474850
and I'm saying I did that. That's where most of my rejections came from.
The average girl I get to know for at least a month before asking her out. After my 10th serious rejection I lowered my standards to people I wasn't in love with, then I lowered standards further to people I wasn't serious about.
You don't know what rejection can do to someone, and when someone wastes YEARS investing their life waiting for "the one" sure I did ask out a shit ton of girls I wasn't serious about. but there were girls I tried hard to get.
>>27472232
If you make so much money why not just pay an escort?
>>27474953
You're still not understanding.
You're shooting at a shitload of girls trying to hit ANY GIRLS PLS instead of sniping just ONE girl you really like.
Also, if you get in "love" so easily, that's not love. It's probably just lust.
>>27475022
Your advice is retarded, if you success rate is low you should go for as many woman as possible. Pining after a single oneitis is literally the reason why /r9k/ are all virgins.
>>27474953
I know what rejection does. It physically hurts, anon.
We've all got to surpass our fear of rejection, though. No pain, no gain. You did well by asking out, it just didn't work. This is trial and error, just like everything else. And it's fucking painful, but it's the only way ever. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
To get to my first relationship ever in real life I had to go through many loops and hoops, rejections, and gain a goddamn backspine before women found me attractive, and even then I had to find the right woman. And now the ride is not even over at all, it's just a different kind of ride altogether. If you think it's over at losing your virginity or getting a girlfriend, dude, I'm sorry to tell you life doesn't work that way.
we're all born incomplete and we die incomplete. That's why in media, we all want an ending to stories. One where after all the effort, the protagonist gets something and has his life laid out for him from there onwards, because it's what we wish we had yet we never get.
>>27475022
>>27475056
I think both standpoints are equally bad. It's good to understand that there is an abundance of women as opposed to oneitis, but I think it's bad to wildly hit on any woman you come across. It's a sign of low emotional intelligence, low self-control and low self-esteem. Show some backbone. Sex isn't about status, fucking, or self-esteem. It's about a relatonship where the aim is for both of you to feel good, so get to know the woman you're aiming to lay. Charm her. Have fun with her, enjoy your time with her. Make it a memorable experience for both, even if it's just a goddamn one night stand.
>>27475056
You SHOULD go after your oneitis, but it should be because you genuinely like her, not just because you wanna fuck her.
AND, if she eventually rejects you, then you fucking live with it and let it go.
>>27474764
Well her mom has no idea how inaccessible she is because presuming they communicate she has a tunnel past the iron curtain. And how would you feel if some guy who was your daughters friend over 10 years ago called and asked for her number? Then made excuses for how I can't reach her any other way.
It's just reflecting extremely poorly on me.
>go for it
Yeah I get it. But my current option seems like the kind that'd lock me out. I was hoping to find her number. I could put her up on some map or something and it'd seem legit. Sure, it's lying. But I just want to get close enough that she'd listen. This story is probably not best to share on the first date.
>>27475130
>Sex isn't about status, fucking, or self-esteem. It's about a relatonship where the aim is for both of you to feel good, so get to know the woman you're aiming to lay. Charm her. Have fun with her, enjoy your time with her. Make it a memorable experience for both, even if it's just a goddamn one night stand.
I'm screencapping this shit. This anon is spouting pure wisdom.
>>27475183
>that'd lock me out
m8 you're already locked out.
Trust me, do this. Contact her in any way you can. Fuckin call her mom and ask her to pass the phone to her daughter if you need to. Then tell the daughter who you are, and ask her to do shit IRL, like have a casual lunch, "no pressure", or some other thing.
At the very least, ask for her contact info so you two can communicate later.
I cannot stress this enough. As someone who risked talking to a grill and came out winning, I urge you to just do it. Come up with a solid plan. Don't bullshit yourself. And do it.
>>27475257
Anon I appreciate your input but I'm not seeing how I'm 'locked out'. It's not targeting me specifically at all. I wasn't creeping on her at all for 7 years. I just realized how she's just great and I'd marry her. I don't even know if she has a boyfriend you know. And the FB friend request. She doesn't have many friends on FB, and since my request was ignored early on (when we talked daily, obviously didn't think of it much back then so I didn't ask about it) its easy to see how she either saw my re-add, considered it inappropriate for whatever reason (had BF for instance, but as rude as it sounds I don't consider it likely with how guys are) and ignored it. Or she didn't notice it. I'm betting on the latter. She hasn't added anyone in these three years and she has made 3 posts.
I see how it makes sense to you that intruding like that would be ok but I'm confident she'd be at least a little bit uncomfortable with that. Then again, 10 years is a long time.
>I'm 23 year old virgin I learned my lesson.
>I make six figures & hit the gym
"I also lie on the internet poorly"
>>27475425
I meant locked out as in you two aren't progressing in a relationship. You're not even communicating.
It could be that she didnt even USE facebook. I know a couple nerdy grills that very rarely use facebook. In fact, the grill I'm dating right now had to be encouraged to MAKE a facebook by me when we met.
>but I'm confident she'd be at least a little bit uncomfortable with that
Excuses. Fucking do it, man. You have no reason not to, and you could be happy.
I know that shit's hard. It was hard as fuck for me to make the first step too, but if you're honest with yourself it can open up a shitton of happiness.
Bottom line, just fucking do it.
>>27475146
no wait you're missing the point he made. He's right and you're wrong.
R9K's major problem is they're all virgins because they follow your shitty advice. People are so miserable because they keep chasing after their oneitis who rejects them because she can do better.
>>27475130
Why are you making me out to be the bad guy for literally having lower standards now?
> I'm sorry to tell you life doesn't work that way.
Only YOU decide that. There's a reason why religious people became legitimately happy in the past dying for their god. As long as someone defines happiness as something that is obtainable and they do obtain the requirement for it, those people can be happy because it comes down to perspective.
If someone legitimately thinks that sex is what's needed to make them happy, and they get sex, it WOULD make them happy. The ones who don't get happy from it are the people who were never under that belief to begin with, and had bigger problems lying around in their head.
>>27475531
>my shitty advice
>they keep chasing after their oneitis who rejects them because she can do better
What the fuck do you think "AND, if she eventually rejects you, then you fucking live with it and let it go." means? I'm telling people to drop the chase if the oneitis rejects them.
>>27475645
uh.. what makes you think people haven't done that?
You're the one who tells people to chase them, if anyone was chasing a woman they'd ask her out pretty soon. Most relationships are created pretty soon after meeting in adulthood.
THey use your same shitty logic on the next woman and the next woman. Then they run out of oneitis's, and then they turn 28 years old still a virgin, and then they try to lower their standards but their inexperience with women made them undesirable.
YOUR advice is why people are miserable.
Many men wouldn't be dying virgins if they stopped looking for a oneitis in their youth, gained some experience with women at LEAST, but if you are a virgin by X age, it's too late for you.
>>27475615
I'm not the guy you're replying to.
If someone legitimately thinks that sex is what's needed to make them happy, then they need to reevaluate their lives because that's a very shallow or otherwise "shitty character" goal to have.
>i know what's right for me
The same could be said by a cocaine addict. Taking cocaine would make them happy, but it's not good for them.
>The ones who don't get happy from it are the people who were never under that belief to begin with, and had bigger problems lying around in their head.
Lel you're the one bashing on people who don't focus on just fucking.
Tbh I'm not too-too interested in fucking. I prefer having a relationship.
I can fap whenever I want, but I cant feel another person's affection when I want. It's a simple equation for me.
>>27475746
>You're the one who tells people to chase them
I have literally said to do the opposite of that. Are you stupid?
>next woman and the next woman
They're idiots for trying to get multiple women
>run out of oneitis
They have shitty taste if they have more than a couple oneitis throughout their entire life.
Re-read my previous posts pls.
>>27475820
You'd rather people just die virgins then?
Only target oneitis, and if those 1-2 women reject you then just die a virgin?
Why should people subscribe to your beliefs, why do you think people will be happy by doing that. Have you not read ANY of the posts here and seen all the suicidal people for taking that path?
>>27475489
Ok so let's say I call her mom and ask for her number. How do you think I'd have to put it to get a number out of her. Assuming her job is still that I could get her a better one. Pretend it's a job offer thing. But that's probably even weirder right? Someone I knew 10 years ago and met in secondary school seems appropriate for a job, maybe it's just me who thinks like that and her mom wouldn't. We could probably do some chatting for a while beforehand so it doesn't trigger her defense.
And let's say I just tell the truth. It's seriously gonna be seen like I'm a stalker. Even if I leave out details like how long or to what extent.
I don't see how I can even get in contact with her mom in a decent way. I don't think Facebook is the right approach, she's more active than her daughter but not much. Over phone I'd be able to convey shit in a more nuanced and probably favorable way. But just cold calling her is weird without presenting the only reason I have to call.
Also this poster >>27474673
That's clearly the normal reaction to this shit.
I've been thinking of finding an excuse to go up there. It'd get me into serious stalker territory (as in legal danger) but I can probably find an excuse to be anywhere in town. It's a university city and they do have CS courses I might wanna take.
And sure this could be over thinking everything way way too much. But three years and not a peep outside of Facebook? I don't even know what that means. Depression maybe, shit that's pretty bad.
>>27475872
Holy fuck did you even read his posts? He said to drop the oneitis if it didn't work
Idk why I'm asking r9k for advice, I might not even take it. There's a girl in my class who isn't that good looking, but I personally can see the cute side of her. We both have a good future ahead of us. She gives me attention sometimes (asks how my weekend was, throws a light punch at me to get my attention etc.) but hasn't really dropped any obvious signs of liking me. Should I ask her out? I've never asked a girl out in my life. What do I even say? I'm 22 fyi
>>27475938
Don't lie. That'll just fuck you in the end.
Didnt you say you had her mom's\home phone number? How'd you get that? Was it through stalkery?
Don't make up excuses. ALWAYS be honest.
Again, don't worry about the web creeping. I do that shit too and as long as you dont tell her about it, it's fine.
You ARE overthinking things.
Just call her and invite her to do shit as friends. It's super simple.
For all you know she's lonely as fuck.
> no standards
Having no standards is even worse you idiot. You're just as bad as the high school drop outs who work at gas stations all their lives. Better to have unrealistic standards and never get laid than to admit defeat.
>>27476280
Yes ask her out.
Invite her to have lunch with you. Don't make it a date thing, just make it a friendly, no presure, casual thing.
Also stuff like movies or other IRL interaction.
As long as you're honest you'll be fine.
"I want to do stuff with this girl" -> "I will invite her to do stuff"
Simple as that.
Repeat that until you're closer to her. Eventually ask her to date you.
>>27476104
Yeah, you drop the oneitis.. but he's encouraging to look for your oneitis instead of just fucking anyone.
If you run out of oneitis's you die a virgin.
>>27476324
>that picture
>what is it like to be a billionare
Also,
Standards are stupid as shit. Just date who you genuinely like and leave fucking to be a secondary thing.
>>27476363
If you run out of oneitis you have shitty taste.
I have a feeling the people who complain about having a oneitis are the people who want a girl JUST to fuck her.
I've liked ONE single girl all my life and I'm dating her now. I don't get how people have a shitload of girls they "love". Sounds like bullshit to me.
>>27476352
So it's a bad idea to tell her I like her from the beginning (like, first time out, or during the asking etc.)?
>>27476490
>not answering my questions
It's fine to say it, but say it charismatically.
Shit like "you know, I've always liked you".
But you gotta earn this. You can't just have one meal with her and expect her to take that kindly. You also gotta say it casually, almost in a teasing sort of way.
>>27476563
I'm a little fucked up right now, did you actually have a question for me or am I misreading something?
>>27471832
Fuck that shit op get a vasectomy to avoid baby jail.
>>27476603
Aw shit. My bad anon, I thought I was replying to someone else.
It's 3 AM over here too, I need to get some rest.
>>27476288
>phone number
Well yeah when I called their old number I went out to find where her mom was. Technically through Web crawling but it's easily accessible if you just look some and know her name. It's not updated on Facebook or anything like that though. Just a bit of effort, don't think that it's creepy to know.
>be honest, always be honest
Yeah I get the point in that but I don't see how it'd work out. IF she's really lonely (at this age) her mom would likely want to hook her up regardless. But that's betting she knows, and that she is as stated. I don't see it working out well. Sure if she has a boyfriend and everything I'd get closure on that. It's not like I'm not looking during this time. It's just that she's in the back of my mind and every girl I meet makes her seem better because she becomes more of a statistical rarity, I don't consciously think about it like that but it's how I'd explain it..
>be honest but don't tell her about the web creeping
Yeah we have different standards for honesty. It has to come out some time. But I get that telling her early on is stupid. Maybe not go into detail if she doesn't request it.
>invite as a friend
You mean after considerable effort to get in contact with her? You really think that's stuff friends would do? It's pretty obvious at that point. Not sure you've thought this through. She's also someone who would overthink things. The shit in secondary school was pretty extreme. I think she made a FB because of me but I can't be sure. That's a long and identifying story I'd rather not post.
>>27476605
Protection is cheaper and easier.. You just want to sterilize robots I bet. Some people do that I don't get it. Like that one pro castration poster.
>>27476674
Once again you're putting up barriers to excuse yourself into not getting in contact with her.
>you know her mom's number so you can contact her.
>hey i'm an old friend of _____
>hey _____ how are ya, its been a while, etc
>oh yeah? im glad you're doing good
Don't force the request. Let her talk about her life if she talks.
>i've had a hard time trying to contact you, but i've been thinking, wanna come hang out sometime? there's this great restaurant close by called _______ that we could go to
Simple. If you project what you want into words, it's very easy.
Also I would NOT recommend telling her more than she needs to know.
If you DO call her, the only thing you'll have to explain is how you got the mom\house's phone number.
>>27473681
This is why you ask for a paternity test before you sing off on the papers. Society is gynocentric as fuck and you need to protect yourself as a man.
>>27476904
I'm not the guy you're replying to.
I don't think it has to do with paternity. As long as a man is seen as the "parental figure" he can be charged with child support.
>>27476674
Anyway dude, the point is just do it.
You seem like a cool dude, so if you wanna keep talking to me or ask me more shit, feel free to email me:
[email protected]
I say this because it's half past 3 AM and I need to be awake by 10 AM tomorow.
Sleep well anons.
>>27476863
Anon we obviously don't live in the same city anymore. It wouldn't be a small invitation to hang out.
I'm not 'putting up barriers'. I'm looking at my options and they all have major problems. You're constructing a scenario that's fairly unlikely. Sure me and her mom can talk about stuff but the 'what do you want' will come out somewhere and i'l basically have to ask for her number saying I'm aiming to date. To get in contact to a secondary school friend isn't something anyone would buy.
>I've had a hard time trying to contact you
So you do understand the situation a little bit. Couple that with distance and here's the conversations I see (slight hyperbole)
>hey 'mom' I'm an old friend of oneitis, been quite some time, how are you. (smalltalk)
Unless I can find a reason to contact her daughter in that conversation (which would be great, there's no problem then).
>uh anon I'm just wondering why you called, it's nice talking to you but I have to go soon, was there something in particular you wanted?
All this is presuming the most positive of circumstances btw,shes doing well etc. And here I have to tell her I'd like to date her daughter. That friend shit doesn't make any sense. The one exception would be an invite to an event as part of a larger group. I don't have that now but I might be able to get that going.
So. Then I have the number or she's asking her daughter if it's OK.
Then if I get it and it wasn't the invite to group situation. I have to call and ask her out directly. There's just no other way.
>>27477175
Yeah ok. 430 here. Not sure i'l mail though.
>>27477204
Don't talk about stuff. As soon as her mom picks up the phone tell her you're an old friend of the daughter and ask the mom to pass the phone
Don't ask the mom for the number, that's autistic
Don't say you wanna date, say she's her friend and you wanna hang out.
Don't fuckin say you wanna date her daughter dude. Just say you wanna TALK to her and you're her friend.
After you're in contact with the daughter you can ask stuff from there.
You're purposefully thinking of steering the conversation somehwere you dont want it to go.
(last post because i saw yours as i was closing the tabs. Dont bother replying to this post. If anything, reply to my email)
See you anon and good luck. Be honest when you say what you want to do, like when you tell them mom you wanna tlak to the daughter.
>>27477304
>replying because I feel like it even if it's pointless
Why are you are you still presuming she lives at home? I've told you she's in another city. Have to ask for the number. Have to give an excuse unless I just ask and she straight up gives it (unlikely, either way I have to be prepared).
Pretty annoying when people don't get your situation when you thought you had explained it well.
>>27476736
Condom rips or she sperms jacks you. Whay are you going to do with no male reproductive rights ?
>>27476957
Jesus fucking christ even worse then I thought. This society is getting worse for men ever day.
>>27477841
In the US prenups can be thrown out in court for many reasons.
If judge seriously decides that the woman is financially incompetent to support the child, then the prenup will get thrown away, there's many reasons.. a judge can just "feel" like throwing it away.
