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Why would suicide by train have such low agony, yet take 17 minutes
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Why would suicide by train have such low agony, yet take 17 minutes on average..?
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Cause the train has a delay.
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It still takes almost 2 minutes to die after a shotgun to the head? Really?
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>>27146319
There's no way you're feeling anything because your brain is obliterated at that point.
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>>27146288
That charts all wrong, a shotgun to the head will kill you dead instantly
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>>27146328
If done correctly and you don't fuck up (which apparently people have somehow because the fatality rate isn't 100%) then yeah.
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The real question is how did they even get the data. How does on measure agony?
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>>27146288
Because that's the average amount of time you'll be waiting for a train to show up

Make sure you bring a book or walkman with you or something
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>>27146416
It's incredibly subjective, but I'd say some are pretty accurate. I can't imagine a worse way to die than slowly burning to death, so the fact that those sorts of deaths are in the 90's is pretty accurate when compared to some of the more "tame" ones. Same with a slit throat. That's a bad way to go.

But some (explosions) depend. If it's a big blast then that's probably a 1 (or maybe 0) since you're gone almost instantly.
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>>27146288
Wouldn't have thought that monoxide poisoning would be a 18 compared to a train or a bullet to the chest.
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the 17 minutes is the time you spend waiting for the train
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>Fatal stab in the abdomen
>252 minutes
That's horrible.
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where is this even from?
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>>27146341
There are people out there with artificial jaws because they failed.
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>>27146288
Okay, but how do I get a shotgun in Australia?
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>>27146427
If only my Sony Walkman still worked.
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>>27146611
Those are people who kill themselves because they don't understand the point of a headshot. Jaw is still technically head.
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>>27146532
Someone's ass
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>>27146288
probably includes the amount of time they spent on the tracks waiting for the train, or the average is skewed hardcore by people that lived/pussied out last sec and got clipped
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>>27146288
>no feelium bag
Someone needs to get with the times. 5 mins, like 2 agony I'd say.
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>>27146288
looks like horseshit desu
did they take suicidal people and tell them to attach electrodes tot heir brains while they're offing themselves or something ? like how the fuck would you measure time and agony ?.

i'd say gunshot to your motor cortex area \ fall from ridiculous height head first is the way to do . no way you survive a minute afterwards , maybe your hearth\whatever works for a while after but your brain is rekt in 5 milliseconds tops .
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>>27146947
Any tips of making sure you fall head first?
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>>27146416
It's based on a survey of people who chose to commit suicide and rated their agony on a scale of 1 to 100 and the score you see is the average. It's pretty obvious.
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Trains are amazing so being around one makes you happy, thus lowering the pain
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>>27146964
Completely holeproof logic
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>>27146332
if you shoot your frontal cortex or the sides if your brain there's a good chance you wont die .
a few months back my dad's hospital received this syrian kid who got executed with an AK shot to the side of the head and was alive afterwards and still is today .
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>>27146498
under rated post

origami
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>>27146962
jump head first . but make sure you dont have rotational momentum otherwise you'd start spinning .

dosnt matter if the building is high enough .its just that by doing it head first you can off yourself from a 20-30m building and be sure your body wont absorb the fall enough for you to survive .
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>>27146288
>gunshots to head and falling from height have agony ratings

Surely the agony would be 0 because you would die instantly, or at worst be comatose
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>>27146947
your instincts will still kick in and you'll still try to land on your feet so falling head first would be pretty hard.

It's like trying to drown yourself in a pool where you can stand up, your body just makes you stand
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>>27146964
so you're saying someone shot himself with a shotgun, survived and when asked said the agony was about 5.5 ?
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It's missing one key option

>Old Age
>100%
>38,894,400.00
>100.0
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>>27147033
I've seen plenty of real footage of people quite calmly falling headfirst to their deaths without flailing their legs around like a retard.
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>>27147038
>/v/ reviews suicide
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>>27147033
you'd start flailing around but as long as you dont have rotational momentum a human body cant turn itself around in freefall unless you're skydiving. .
it actually puzzled many physicists how cats for example can turn without angular momentum in freefall .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGusK69XVlk
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>>27147058
thats because theyre probably mental and actually have something wrong with them that lets them be free of any instinct that would try to keep them alive
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>>27147099
Wow, who would have thought suicidal people were mentally ill
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>>27147099
are you trying to say that suicidal people are thinking rationally and have nothing wrong with them
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>>27147115
some of them are , but offing yourself is a totally legitimate response to human existence .
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>>27147115
>>27147117
being suicidal isn't the same as being mentally ill
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>>27146498

nice

this is original
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>>27147142
it's a very grey area anon
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>Explosives
>Agony 3.75
ez game
ez life
big old explosion point blank at your brain, it's a flawless out
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>>27147099
>appeal to nature fallacy
jej
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>>27146937
Mixed with oxygen retard. Enjoy ending up being yet more retarded than what you actually are.
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>>27147290
Sorry, what? Are you calling me a retard mixed with oxygen? Or are you saying that helium tanks contain helium inexplicably mixed with oxygen and that oxygen somehow makes you retarded?
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>>27146319
It also takes 57 minutes to burn to death
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>>27146288
this is obviously including the amount of time to actually prepare etc
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>>27147336
Containers of feelium usually have oxygen in them due to the low amount of helium left on the planet


Anyone who commits suicide via helium is a wasteful faggot who cares about no one
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>>27147450
>Hey guys I'm a normalfag and here's my opinion
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>>27146937
Bit more than 5 minutes actually. You'll lose consciousness pretty fast but you'll still technically 'live' a good 10-15 minutes after. Could be longer depending on what drugs are in your system and how cold it is out there.

Terms of pain, if done right it would be relatively low. But a lot of people don't do it right. So look more towards carbon monoxide poisoning for a pain threshold.

>>27146332
You don't. Even if you completely obliterate your head it'll still take about a minute for all your systems to shut down. That's what we technically constitute as dying. The damage would be so severe it'd be literally impossible to resuscitate you, but there's no such thing as an instant death unless you were somehow vaporised.

>>27146947
>i'd say gunshot to your motor cortex area \ fall from ridiculous height head first is the way to do. no way you survive a minute afterwards

Again, time for death considers the time it takes all your organs/brain to shut down. Technically your brain can still be firing even if it's reduced to the size of a pea.

>like how the fuck would you measure time and agony ?
Pain receptor activation and personal accounts from those who have failed. For things such as shotgun to the head, they would likely take the averaged damaged head region and consider whether pain receptors would still be able to travel to these portions of the brain. Also consider that your brain feels no pain, so it would be skull/cochlear, and a mix of shock. These are purely theoretical, but still accurate.
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>>27147544
>You don't. Even if you completely obliterate your head it'll still take about a minute for all your systems to shut down.

So what? If the brain stem is destroyed, you instantly lose consciousness. You're dead for all intents and purposes, the body could live on for another 5 days for all I care.
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>>27147561
>You're dead for all intents and purposes, the body could live on for another 5 days for all I care.
Yeah, definitely. But technically death doesn't occur until all organs have shut down, which is what the chart constitutes as time to death.
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I still think those minutes are meant to be seconds
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>>27147450
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

>Containers of feelium usually have oxygen in them
literally not true, where did you even get that idea?
>low amount of helium left on the planet
"low" as in "we couldn't replace all airplanes in the world with blimps", not as in "we don't have enogh for anon to off himself".
>Anyone who commits suicide via helium is a wasteful faggot who cares about no one
Again, the world isn't going to notice a single tank and once we get fusion up and running we'll have more helium than we know what to do with. Also, you can use any inert gas you can think of, like nitrogen of which we have fuckloads.
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>>27147628
He's not wrong there is oxygen in helium tanks and if you try to kill yourself with a helium tank you'll be kept alive in an oxygen starved state for a decent amount of time and if someone finds you you'll end up a vegetable
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>>27147628
>literally not true, where did you even get that idea?
Not that anon, but it is true if the retards buy the little tanks for blowing up balloons.
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>>27147678
Oh also the shortage is also true seeing as helium is needed for superconductors all around the world.
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>>27147676
>>27147678
I had no idea this was a thing that happened. Why is this even allowed? What concentration are we talking about? I reckon with <1% oxygen you would still pass out according to keikaku, especially if you hyperventilate beforehands.
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>>27147628
>literally not true, where did you even get that idea?
'cept it is true because pure helium is expensive as fuck so they fill it with oxygen as well. Remember, this is for party balloons and not anything scientific so it doesn't need a high concentration. The helium oxygen mix is still lighter than regular air and therefore a balloon would float.

That being said, the helium content in those canisters is still high enough to kill in majority of cases. Just check the PO of the helium if the canister displays that information.
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>>27147713
>I reckon with <1% oxygen you would still pass out according to keikaku, especially if you hyperventilate beforehands.

Well thing is air is about 77% nitrogen and 21% O2. So the air you breath is only 1/5th oxygen. Helium portions in these canisters range from 2% (lethal) to 50%.

A canister with more than 21% O2 content would actually have more oxygen than the air you breath. So insure you check it out first. You'll ideally want less than 3-5%
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>>27146288
cause being hit by hundreds of tonnes of metal can knock a person out?
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>>27147725
Ah, so they're not sold as helium, they're sold as helium-oxygen mix for ballons? Well, yeah, obviously you want pure helium, that's the entire point. If you want to kill yourself by jumping off a building it's also pretty obvious you can't just jump from a little shed.
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>>27146288
List is stupid. Usually takes 4 seconds to die if you jump off the Golden Gate.
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>>27147713
>why is this even allowed

Because the companies manufacturing those helium tanks don't count pathetic suicidal neckbeards as part of their customer base
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>>27147769
Read >>27147743 you'll need to find an exceptionally low O2 content canister in order to have a good chance at doing it. Helium (like O2) has pretty poor binding affinity to blood, so it's not like it out muscles the O2 in the canister like CO2 would.

You can gear near perfect helium canisters, I've had to work with some of them before in my lab/hospital. I'm not sure how a private citizen would make a purchase of them though.
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>tfw no shotgun, only 30.06 which I'm too scared I will some how fuck up and make myself a vegetable
>its a I'm up at four un the morning because I recalled something I did and cringed about it and then spent the next four hours running the failures and embarrassments throughout my life episode
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>>27147038
many people have been shot in the head by a shotgun and survived. Saw a story of some dude in middle east i think who got shot and his face was put back to normal, was amazing to see the before and after pics.
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>>27147828
Nigga, I understand helium and how it kills you, I paid attention during biology in high school. I'm just not very falimiar with the inflatable baloons and baloon accessories market and I wasn't aware that adding oxygen was a common practice.
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>>27146299
First post, best post


Original comment

Reeeee this is fucking original
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>>27146288

Funny how theres no mention of suicide by inert gas in the list. Its completely painless and the fastest way to kill yourself peacefully
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>>27147038
BHHAHAHA
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I tried to overdose on prescription pills once. My ears started ringing really loudly, my heart beating wildly, i could hardly see or walk, and i heard voices. This went on for 12 hours wide awake. I would have personally rated the agony higher.
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>>27146341
look up arseface, matey
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>>27147038
6.5 with rice
>reddit pls go
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>>27146299
Best post of the week
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cuz it knocks you the fuck out and you cant feel anything while you bleed from extra hles
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what a depressing thread.
why would you refuse God's sacrifice on the cross and refuse eternal life?
Remember, you will be resurrected on the say of the resurrection of the sinners, then you'll die again by fire according to the holy scripture.
And while you burn, you will see the happy saints in the distance, observing you from the walls of the new Jerusalem.
Your choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R3uANhiWu4
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>>27150496
why did god make my life so shit
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>>27150561
you did it to yourself, you have no one to blame it for.
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>>27146288
Because they exclude the japanese from the stats.
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>>27150580
I didn't ask to be born into a poor ugly family with history of mental illness
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>>27150580
You have to admit some people have better lives because they were dealt different cards. You'd be lying if you didn't say that. We can take steps to improve them though, such as accepting and praying to Jesus
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>>27150610
There is always a choice.
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>>27150496
ACTUAL FOOTAGE
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>>27146498
Cute post, I like you
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>>27150631
yeah my choice is suicide but that's not a valid one apparently

>get forcibly put on earth
>not allowed to leave or else I go to hell
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>>27150640
>>27147157
>>27147011
thanks, but someone said it before me just two posts above mine
I didn't see it though
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>>27150580

That's what rich conservatives say so they don't have to feel bad about poor brown people
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>>27150654
Biblical hell is death, meaning nothingness.
It's unbiblical and to assume that God of love will torture you for eternity. Don't listen to catholic/demonic doctrines.
It's your choice to die, but why would you refuse heaven?
That's what makes this thread so depressing.
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>>27150716
what makes this thread depressing is that you actually believe this drivel
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>>27150716
because there's a possibility it's not real and having to suffer for 60-80 more years and have it all be for naught it terrifying
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>>27150771
>possibility
Almost all of the bullshit in that end times video, and all of the bullshit in the Bible is refuted by scientific fact and common sense
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before you cuck yourself out of existance,

explain why, in very exact terms, why you wish to end your life

please avoid "le everything is so bad :(((((("
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>>27150771
you don't have to suffer, there is always a choice apart from suicide.

>>27150798
Science is the religion of demons, of Lucifer himself. Truth mixed with lies.
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>>27150854
>being schizophrenic
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>>27150847
I'm a bald short depressed 29 year old kissless virgin NEET with Crohn's disease and a family history of dementia, I offer nothing to anybody and I'm a burden on everybody I know

I have no interests and no ambition or strength to improve
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>>27146332

I saw the bjork stalker shoot himself and it looked like it hurt before he fell over and died. He should have used a shotgun. If i ever kill myself i am not using a weak fucking pistol. i want to make sure i don't survive or i don't feel pain

what ever happened to that one actor who shot himself and survived? why the fuck would regret it and call 911. what a fucking idiot! i would finish the job. I wouldn't want to survive with half of my face blown off
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>>27150888
>I have no interests and no ambition or strength to improve

explain why this is bad, and if you can, also explain why you are unable to offer anything
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>>27150874
>being so autistic believe the only things that can possibly exist are things you have personally seen or experienced
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>>27150941
No no, you're retarded.
Stop replying to me now, thanks.
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>>27150926
>explain why this is bad
because I don't want to be such a fucking useless loser, but I can't muster the strength to care about anything. even the things I like aren't interesting anymore. I'm boring, I'm shallow, I'm a liar, I'm lazy, I'm depressing to be around, I haven't had a friend in over 10 years, I have a tangible negative impact on people I'm around. I'm desperate for companionship and love but I don't have any of the qualities required for a relationship or even a friendship. I'm stunted, I'm immature, I can't be an adult.

I'll never be able to hold a job because I just cannot care about anything, it's too much work, it's too many hours, I've had jobs in the past but any time I work I just want to be home and sleeping. All I do is sleep. My mother has threatened to kick me out but she cares too much. She's the only reason I haven't killed myself, but when she's gone I'm blowing my fucking head off.

Is that a thorough enough explanation?
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>>27150966
Great argument

I guess you'll find out one way or another
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>>27150941

>being so autistic as to believe a book that was written by ancient sand nigger kikes thousands of years ago and which is mostly based off of previous ancient religions

ebin meme :^)
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>>27150988
No, you'll find out, retard.
I already know.
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What's the time of death and agony rating if I chose to die by anime?
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They just don't want you to an hero OP.

And neither do i :/
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>>27151002
>being so autistic to discount certain writings just because it's cool to insult groups of people and seem rational and intelligent

>>27151008
Right on bro. Have fun with that :)
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>>27151037
You mean dead on the inside? Instantly.
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>>27149319
Is this all you say? fuck off back to /tv/
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>>27151037
Time: 31536000 min
Agony: 0.0
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A friend of mine drank antifreeze and ate a bunch of pills. I wonder why he made it so rough on himself. As much as i'd hate to hang myself or jump off something high up, the thought of drinking something like that and waiting is just fucked.

Slitting wrists is the worst though. There has to be something more to that, like, wanting to see yourself bleeding to death.

If you've got a gun it's so simple to not fuck up if you know where to shoot.
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>>27151087
>If you've got a gun it's so simple to not fuck up if you know where to shoot.
You'd be surprised.
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>>27146299
I really loved this
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>>27146319
Your brain dies instantly, your organs still live. Simple as that
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>>27151115
Gun in mouth. point to brain stem.

I am surprised people don't look it up and instead just point a firearm at the general direction of their face and shoot, though.
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>>27150975
you obviously see what is wrong with yourself, so why don't you go and improve it?

you could be living a much better life then you already are, so why are you refusing to do so?
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>>27151170
Because I'm not capable of change.
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Man, I gotta go do the nails of my feet.
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>>27151180
you are refusing to change, not uncapable

so why do you not want to change?

is there some sort of fear of being independent? since it sounded like you have someone that provides for you
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>>27151043

I don't need to discount the writings of the bible based SOLEY on the fact that it was written by hyper violent, child raping desert nomads. The bible itself isn't even consistent in what it teaches.

And, as I said, it pretty much ripped off several older religions, taking pieces from Caananite, Sumerian, Egyptian, and Pagan scriptures and adapting it to fit their own flavor of superstition. Yahweh, which is what YHWH (or Elohim as the jews referred to him) was a Canaan deity of storms, often noted for manifesting himself as a burning bush (sound familiar?). The bible reads like a shitty fanfiction

Enjoy that cognitive dissonance though bro
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>>27146288
Why do people even bother to hang themselves when there are so much better ways to constrict your arteries (especially these days)? God people are so fucking retarded when they try to kill themselves, I swear.

I actually feel pretty fortunate for having discovered the one off-switch mode method that everyone else seems to be completely ignorant of, but then I'm afraid that reincarnation is real and if I'm reborn as a human I'll be as much as an idiot as everyone else and not know about it :/
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Train just seems like the best idea it's like a public guillotine
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>>27151224
>so why do you not want to change?
Because I know I can't. I have never accomplished anything in my life, not even anything small, let alone the massive task of "turn your entire fucking loser life around at 29". It's not a refusal. I know me, and I know I'm incompetent.

This is not even mentioning the unimaginable stomach-wrenching pain from Crohn's that has crippled my life. When my mother dies, I'll end up homeless, so I might as well die on my terms.
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>>27151224
>you are refusing to change, not uncapable
>implying there is a difference
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>>27146288
What about a botched magic trick? You know, like the ones that you saw somebody in half inside a box.
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>>27151315
seems to me that the only problem here is you not even giving it a try

crohns is pretty shitty to have, so obviously if you plan to work you'd do best to do it from home. there are still plenty of options

turning around your life obviously wont be instant, but it definitely is possible to turn your current life into something infinitely more pleasant

>>27151324
>mfw
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>>27151271
What is this method? My two considerations are gassing my car or jumping from building.
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>>27151369
>but it definitely is possible to turn your current life into something infinitely more pleasant
Or I could kill myself and end my suffering.
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>>27146288
Anyone have a link to that wiki article?
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>>27147057
Underrated post desu MLG 420
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>>27151387
would you be happy knowing in your finally moments that you cucked yourself and your memory eternally?

would you not prefer to live happily to simply ending it?
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>>27151629
>knowing in your finally moments that you cucked yourself and your memory eternally?
Everyone who knows me knows I'm a loser. They want me gone.

>would you not prefer to live happily
There's no guarantee I'll succeed. Actually it's more than likely I won't. I'd rather not chance it and prolong my shit life.
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>>27146288
Christ why do people go with cyanide? I was uner the impression that was fairly painless method but I guess not.

Seems like prescription drugs is the way to go and probably a whole hell of a lot easier to acquire.
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>>27151680
>Everyone who knows me knows I'm a loser. They want me gone.
this is about your personal honour and pride as a man, not what other people think

the rest is in your hands really, you know what to do to fix yourself and only need to take that first step and be patient

hopefully you make the right decision, good luck either way anon
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>>27151700
>Seems like prescription drugs is the way to go
You're ignoring the first column, "lethality". There's only a 12.3% chance you'll die from a prescription drug OD.
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>>27151710
>this is about your personal honour and pride as a man
I don't care about that. I just want to die.

I know I'll make the right decision, but thank you for your feigned concern.
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>>27151169
>I am surprised people don't look it up and instead just point a firearm at the general direction of their face and shoot, though.

It really does seem like the type of decision that would require at least 5 minutes on google.
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>>27146288
there are people out there that have failed putting a shotgun to their head...
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>>27146288
Looks like explosives is the way to go. Time Square NYC here I come!
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>>27146288
you have to wait for train
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