Why don't you support Donald Trump, robots? He wants to make Japanimation real.
>>27134552
It's weird to see all the racist anime loving pedophiles so riled up about a Chad who would kick dirt in their face if it meant he'd go up .5% in any state poll
>>27134552
Trump is a literal Chad who's gonna bring back that Chad mentallity and make Chad's and Stacy's run the world. Fuck him.
Is Bernie shit? yeah. Is Hilary shit? Yeah. But Trump is not one of us, fuck off. The old numbskull is out of touch when he wanted Snowden executed. Fuck him.
The only guy I kind of want is Christine, but he's literally too fucking fat to run.
This election season is memetastic
>>27134552
I want to kiss John on the dick
Who is that qt on the left?
>>27134716
based Trump supporters who fought off niggers in Chicago
>>27134552
thiss is fucking pathetic
>>27134743
Is he into butt stuff?
this shit is getting out of control
trump assassinated when?
>>27134811
Soon, I hope.
If there's one thing I won't tolerate, it's fascist racebaiting.
>>27134861
yeah, show that gentile fascist fuck.
>>27134861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOOwmWwadIw
Fucking NIGGER
>>27135022
>implying I'm black
>implying I'm not more American than Trump even though my family has been here longer than his
I'm not a liberal by any means. But he's destroying the last shreds of decency the GOP has. This is not how I wanted the Tea Party to be unseated.
idk, this race is fucked as hell. i kind of want clinton to win despite being a subhuman woman because the gop looks like a clown car ran it over and sanders is a free shit meme jew. can i just write in vermin supreme?
>>27135176
>the last shreds of decency the GOP has
You mean like "top GOP intellectuals" literally saying the working class needs to die out because they're "immoral"?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/national-review-writer-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/
Trump is making the GOP respectable. The current GOP pretends to be conservative while pushing all sorts of anti-American policies that help their crony capitalist buddies.
I guess you're kind of right, since that's still somehow less disgusting than the Orwellian left.
>>27135022
>nigger music in the background
lol?
>>27134580
>implying everyone on /r9k/ is racist
but yeah, I agree that he probably doesn't give a solitary fuck about us.
because i am poor, i am not wealthy, i dont make a lot of money. not making lots of money and voting republican is like shooting yourself in the foot
>>27135741
so you want to steal money from rich people?
>>27136339
absolutely, i dont care if they have to eat steak dinner instead of caviar and lobster, as long as i can get by. voting for the side that's against you is the biggest cuck move ever. when they're in cold wet groung just like i'll be, it wont matter that i "stole" from them, through taxes, on the people who make millions
>>27135741
>Thinks "republican" means "crony capitalist"
>Doesn't even know about Trump's policies at all
kek
Trump's doesn't give a fuck. He realizes media is dead and has no power.
And guess what, old school centralized media invented 'racism'. It doesn't actually exist.
>>27136424
stirner was a fucking idiot
>>27136671
i disagree, egoism makes a lot of sense. basically "do you"
>>27136424
So you've just resigned yourself to always being a poorfag? Have you no ambition?
Smh, this country doesn't need commies like you. We're going to MAGA.
>>27136731
>el boot straps maymay
>>27136766
Look Anon. Pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is what most successful people do. And always have.
Of course, not everyone can be successful.
You're a fucking loser. I can tell by your shit attitude.
No matter who get elected, you'll always be a loser. Fuck off with your handouts.
>>27134580
>>27134622
this. At first every one of his supporter are all "LOL liberul tears you don't vote for him cuz your a cuck, prep the bull smug-frog post" but I get the feeling the moment he fucks up everyone will be like "FUCK HIM He sold us out to ze joos! He was a crypto-jew all along! I NEVER voted for him!"
still wouldn't mind if he won though.
>>27136876
if you gave me just a small loan of a million dollars, im sure i would do just fine, in fact, i'd be set for life. but everyone has the same opportunities right? (^:
I'm not registered to vote
>>27136950
>Set for life
You fucking moron. Do you know what a "loan" is? You have to pay it back.
>>27136950
>life's not fair
grow up commie. Envy will get you nowhere.
>>27137022
>You have to pay it back.
w/ interest.
>>27134552
>>27134716
>skinny white autistic looking white-kid with a bed-head and glasses
how I picture your average robot or /pol/ poster. OK maybe not a bed-head but a bowl-cut like Adam Lanza or Dylan Storm
much like nu-males and their "beards+glasses" combo who most likely support Hillary. Just wanna see them pitted against each other IRL.
>>27137022
>you have to pay it back
not if you get the hell outta Dodge, kid
>>27137032
>posts a reasonable stance, explaining earlier that i am voting in my own interest
>durp durr commie!
the arguing right winger, everyone
>>27136950
>1 million
>set for life
Republicans aren't the reason you're poor, your complete retardation and lack of understanding of finance is. I guarantee if you ever won the lottery(which I'm sure you play since you're dumb) you'd lose everything within a year.
>>27137089
>i am voting in my own interest
If you are a white man who was born in America and think someone like Bernie Sanders is in your best interests, you are a TREMENDOUS loser.
>>27137056
Exactly so the asinine belief that with a loan you'd be set for life is the dumbest post I've seen in ages.
>>27134552
I do
fuck the reptilian overlords and terrorist BLM kike followers.
MAGA
>>27137089
>A white man who thinks gibsmedats are in his best interests.
>>27137152
>>27137193
>>27137152
>el hywhyte men get nuffin maymay
/pol/ boogeyman, nothing more
>>27136950
and let me guess, you spent (or are spending) 80k on a useless degree that will never make you that money back right.
>>27137223
go ahead a vote commie anon. Give some more money for 'dem programs'. And while you're at it take a trip to Baltimore or Detroit or Flint etc. You'll see the end result of voting liberals into power.
>>27134552
Can anyone give me the image source of the person on the right in this image? Was it an interview, or what?
>>27137089
you are not only voting out of you own interest, but the interest of all americans. even Hillary would be better for America than Bernie. His proposed plans are terrible.
Its ridiculous how people can claim these socialistic policies work, when all the states and cities that have implemented them the most are failed money pits.
>>27137320
his name is Donald Trump.
>>27137291
all i know anon is that the right wants me to work for lower wages and less benefits so i will always vote left until i die, the right wing is for people born into wealth
and trust me, im not some tumblr or reddit user, ive been coming to this board every single day since i was 14 im 18 now, the trump maymay seems completely bizarre to me, he is the opposite of what would help robots
>>27137320
his name is Donald Trump, he's a wealthy businessman running for the Republican presidential candidacy.
>>27137320
>>27137351
>>27137376
shit, I meant on the left. With the glasses.
>>27137355
>and trust me, im not some tumblr or reddit user
No you're just clearly black
since most Bernie voters arnt aware of any actual policy, here is a side by side of his tax plan.
Bernie's proposed plan relies heavily on business models remaining the same even with harsher restrictions and taxes. They fail to take into account what has been happening since the 90s- the businesses will simply leave the country and import the items in. Bernie's proposed plans will force the few industries left in America out, costing jobs, not creating them.
>>27137394
>>27137394
wrong, my skin is white, my eyes are brown. i believe my ancestry comes from portugal and central western europe like france
>>27137340
>Its ridiculous how people can claim these socialistic policies work, when all the states and cities that have implemented them the most are failed money pits.
I mean , of course.
People who vote for people like Sanders:
-Blacks (duh)
- Young liberals (inexperienced, idealistic, and more importantly... no skin in the game)
-union freeloaders
-losers/deadbeats
Anyone else would be a fool to vote for someone like Sanders.
>>27135741
>Daily reminder that Bernie Sanders literally said "White people can't be poor"
>>27137355
You actually think if they raise the minimum wage it is going to increase your spending power? Kek. What's it's going to do is get you laid off, or replaced by a robot.
>>27137474
>spending power
im not like you richfags where money burns a hole in my pocket, i would just like a studio apartment for myself, have enough to pay all the bills, buy groceries, etc
its fucking nearly impossible for a young man like me to get out on his own, wages are so god damn low and the only good jobs need you to crawl under a mountain of debt in a good college
>>27137355
You actually think your free degree is going to be worth anything? Kek. What's it's going to do is create long unpaid internship requirements for entry level professional jobs. You didn't think economic class structure was going to suddenly collapse did you?
Because I support Kasich, like most reasonable people.
>>27137540
>its fucking nearly impossible for a young man like me to get out on his own, wages are so god damn low and the only good jobs need you to crawl under a mountain of debt in a good college
Then vote Trump you idiot. You think Paco working for $3.50hr under the table is helping your cause?
>>27137355
>all i know anon is that the right wants me to work for lower wages and less benefits so i will always vote left until i die, the right wing is for people born into wealth
low business tax, combined with keeping large amounts of unskilled workers out (not allowing the employment of illegals while deporting those already in the work force and fining businesses using illegal work), and promoting internal competition and giving businesses opportunities to start up or move back to America is what you want. This will create more jobs, more jobs make more open positions, which in turn drive up wages.
Forcing a large min wage will have the businesses firing people and replacing them with robots. This is already apparent in the states where the plans are already in effect, and places like Seattle where many businesses shut down after the min wage rise. Combine this with larger taxes on the establishments, and you are looking to be out of work very quickly with little to no jobs open in the future (which is a path many on /r9k/ are already aware of).
>>27137567
What free college will do, is provide a free 4 year summer camp for 'people of color' before they take over their plantatio.....sorry 'government' jobs.
>>27137355
typical "can't see the forest for the trees". Maybe as you get older you'll realize your higher wage is actually worth less, because everyone else gets higher wages as well and they're all competing for the same housing, goods, and services as you. Or that your precious "benefits" are making it harder for you to get a job and are just being deducted from your salary anyway.
>>27134552
Trump is an insecure narcissist and it would terrify me to have him as head of state and in charge of diplomatic negotiations with other countries with the military to back him up.
War is a bad thing, remember?
Also his tax plan would cut taxes on the rich and there's no way it would be anywhere near revenue neutral. He's making promises he can't keep and I'm honestly nonplussed to find others can't see that. I mean he says he's going to get the Mexican government to pay for a wall. That's never going to happen.
He talks big, but talk is cheap. He's a low information moron using "common sense" solutions that appeal to other low information morons.
>>27137355
>im 18 now
doubtful, or you wouldnt have felt the need to put this. look, once you get older and have to pay taxes and expenses for life you will understand why the American ''left'' is a trap designed to keep the poor poor as a slave class.
>>27137797
>Trump is an insecure narcissist and it would terrify me to have him as head of state and in charge of diplomatic negotiations with other countries with the military to back him up.
Hmm, I remember when another insecure narcissist got Iran to cough up their hostages, because frankly they knew that there was no longer a pussy huckster in the oval office.
>>27137797
Trump is one of the few running against more war. He doesnt even want to send as many shekels to Israel as Bernie does. His international policy would help, as he and Putin are already on good terms while Putin and Obama (or really any of the others) would end horribly. If you had actually watched any of the debates, you would see he is the only one not openly calling for war with Russia but instead to work with them. You think middle eastern countries will respond well to a literal jew who wants to fund even more Israeli protectionism as president? or a woman? And we dont need to worry about our European diplomacy- they rely on the united states much more heavily than they care to admit. The UN and EU are collapsing non-issues. We should strengthen ties with Russia, Japan, and Korea and work closer with China.
Europe can fuck off.
>his tax plan would cut taxes on the rich and there's no way it would be anywhere near revenue neutral
His tax plan is incentive for the Rich to bring their off-shore accounts back (look into this) generating more money that the USA government cant reach right now, and rich people dont want to bring back because the taxes are stupid high. Trying to tax them more will only make them leave faster, and considering a large chunk of the United States is propped up on the backs of rich peoples taxes, would be devastating to our already defunct funds. Giving them their taxes to invest in more businesses, instead of slave labor in India, China, or South American countries will generate more taxes long-term
>I mean he says he's going to get the Mexican government to pay for a wall
Then we stop funding them, and the country collapses. They will ''pay'' out of the money we already give them. I can provide you with comprehensive numbers for this if you are unable to use google yourself.
>moron using "common sense" solutions that appeal to other low information morons.
I will assume you read this on facebook. try to learn for yourself
>>27137797
>Also his tax plan would cut taxes on the rich and there's no way it would be anywhere near revenue neutral.
Yeah let's fuck with all the productive people, and instead funnel the money to cultures that are producing 35 year old grandmothers. Brilliant.
>>27137833
how is it a trap when the left actually helps us instead of saying "fuck you pull yourself up by le bootstraps" when the opportunity just isnt there, you people like to say that the kids who grew up with whole families, a mom and dad together, in nice houses with a big backyard, had the same opportunity as the kid who grew up watching his dad have a 40oz beer for breakfast every day and a 10 pack of nips every night, living in the run down house with the bad hot water heater, the old toilet from the 50s, the house smelling like cigarette smoke 24/7
it makes me rage so fucking hard, richfags just dont get it, their issues are trivial, i do not fucking cre if they have less money, 1 mil instead of 2
>>27138002
>>27137797
on mexico building the wall. more comprehensive numbers can be found n a variety of websites and youtube videos.
>>27138019
>how is it a trap when the left actually helps us instead of saying "fuck you pull yourself up by le bootstraps" when the opportunity just isnt there, you people like to say that the kids who grew up with whole families, a mom and dad together, in nice houses with a big backyard, had the same opportunity as the kid who grew up watching his dad have a 40oz beer for breakfast every day and a 10 pack of nips every night, living in the run down house with the bad hot water heater, the old toilet from the 50s, the house smelling like cigarette smoke 24/7
Life is not fair. Repeat. Some people have more than others. Always have, always will. Expecting parity is asinine. Grow up.
>>27138002
His tax plan actually cuts income tax for everyone, completely removing it for single people that make less than $25k a year and couples that make $50k , but removes loopholes so corporations have to pay their taxes. It helps out everyone while Bernie's plan will raise taxes for everyone.
trump wants to make it so that any shit talk is illegal, literally everyone on here is a fucking idiot who doesn't look into anything
have fun potentially getting jail time for shit talking that mcdonalds employee for messing up your order
>>27138075
>life is not fair, grow up
so i should vote for the guy who is going to help rich people and not help me? go fuck yourself, im doing me this time
>>27138075
>>how is it a trap when the left actually helps us instead of saying "fuck you pull yourself up by le bootstraps" when the opportunity just isnt there, you people like to say that the kids who grew up with whole families, a mom and dad together, in nice houses with a big backyard, had the same opportunity as the kid who grew up watching his dad have a 40oz beer for breakfast every day and a 10 pack of nips every night, living in the run down house with the bad hot water heater, the old toilet from the 50s, the house smelling like cigarette smoke 24/7
So? Some people get born 6'3 and handsome. Some people get born 5'5 and pockmarked. Some people get born into wealthy families but have terminal illnesses.
There is no such thing as 'equality'. It's socialist rhetoric.
It's not the government's job to lift you up Anon. You sound immature.
>>27138019
I grew up in a single mother household on food stamps in a 0 bedroom. The problem isnt welfare programs necessarily, its how long they last and that they dont actually help long term. They also go to useless people (like the NEETs here on /r9k/) that do nothing but suck funding the country doesnt have. Personally, we should have more workers programs like were made during the great depression and after WW2 to put the jobless to work for welfare. Again, wait till you are older and you will understand.
'teach a man to fish' and all that.
>>27138130
kek, if you plan is involves the government 'helping' you, you're too far gone. Enjoy being a loser cuck.
>>27138086
I know, I posted his tax plan already in this thread
>>27137416
thats part of the 'incentive' I wrote about.
>>27138098
what the fuck are you even posting about
>>27138130
>under Bernie get taxed more and lose the few jobs left in America
>under Trump get taxed less and more jobs created creating more opportunities
>IM NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THE GUY ONLY HELPING RICH PEOPLE
are you mentally deficient?
>>27137959
Yep as soon as they got rid of that cuck Carter (aka Bernie Sanders Sr.), they knew the jig was up. Regan was so based.
oy vey this thread is getting too political it's like anudda shoah
>>27138047
This sounds like a wonderful way to get Mexico to retaliate. If it becomes an issue of national pride, they will hurt us economically until we give in.
r9k is helping MAGA
>>27138348
>This sounds like a wonderful way to get Mexico to retaliate. If it becomes an issue of national pride, they will hurt us economically until we give in.
kek. Like this country of warring drug cartels is going to get anything done.
>>27134552
>Make japanamation real
He actually wants to tax Japan for American troop protection. Some amount of those taxes would probably be pushed onto their people which means less anime sold which means less anime made
>mfw a vote for trump is literally a vote to kill anime
>mfw i have no face
>>27138348
they already are hurting us economically, that's the point. What more are they going to do, go on a hunger strike?
>>27138432
>mfw a vote for trump is literally a vote to kill anime
Good. Vote for trump and maybe some of these manchildren will touch an actual woman by 2021.
>>27138432
>He actually wants to tax Japan for American troop protection.
We really do have a shitty deal with Japan though. If China or anyone else attacks them, we have to defend them, yet an American can't eve get a dual citizenship with them. I'm not saying Japan needs to allow anyone to get dual citizenship with them, only Americans.
>>27138443
Dude, it's going to become a matter of national pride and they're going to retaliate with the largest drive-by the world has ever seen.
>>27138348
How would they retaliate? they rely on American money to exist, and the top 1% that own the country wont let the pennies the wall costs cut off the gravy train. The fact is that we have laws, and being taken advantage of by another country at our border is ridiculous. We don't have this problem with Canada, so dont need a wall. But illegal immigration costs Americans a large amount of money each year (its something like 11k PER EACH SINGLE illegal) as well as fill our jails, costing you and I tax money to pay for them (border states such as CA and NM have something like 30-45% of their jails filled with illegal aliens).
The problem doesnt just lie with Mexico, as most of the illegals are from central america. It lies with them not working with us to stop the border hoping at their own borders and helping people get to sanctuary cities and the like.
When you are being kicked, you dont just lay on the ground because you are afraid of getting kicked harder.
>>27138496
Japan should just become a vassal state like Puerto Rico already. They practically are already.
Korea is pretty good for us.
>>27138432
Japan just needs to stop its currency manipulation. Their GDP is very good as well, they can afford to help pay for American protection. I wish America had the balls to tell every country 'hey, either 1. pay for our protection or 2. become a state of America or 3. we leave and good luck with the soviets suckers'
another reason to alley with Russia. fuck the drains of Europe. They dont even appreciate America's help.
>>27138496
We have that deal with them though because we forbade them from having a military after WW2.
>>27136950
>le small loan meme
For getting started in the real estate business, one million dollars is an absolute pittance. Most start with at least 10x more than that.
I wouldn't expect you to have known that, though, since you are just spouting memes and don't know enough about anything to formulate your own opinions.
>>27138509
>The problem doesnt just lie with Mexico, as most of the illegals are from central america. It lies with them not working with us to stop the border hoping at their own borders and helping people get to sanctuary cities and the like.
Yep. We've allowed ourselves to become a magnet for half the world's freeloaders and deadbeats. They come here for dem programs.
And for the last 50 years we've had a bought and paid for media endlessly broadcast how we're racists if we don't somehow accept this.
>>27134552
>japanimation
People still use this instead of anime? Last time I what it was in 2003
>>27138443
They're actually helping us economically. All that sweet sweet productivity for cheap.
>>27138590
>actually believing 1,000,000 dollrs is a small amount of money for the average american citizen, the average voter
almost as out of touch as the candidate himself
>>27137355
You do realize that Trump wants to bring back jobs into america, do away with "free" trade deals that have been lowering your pay for decades, and improve the average person's access to healthcare without any extra cost, right?
Trump is the only candidate that is self-funded. You can't buy out someone who doesn't care about the amount of money he's being offered.
>>27138634
>actually believing that 1,000,000 is a lot of money for a business in manhattan
>>27138623
that actually HURTS us, because it took industry away from America. It created a system where people are dependent on low-skill and low-wage jobs because the industry is gone, and those low payed and unskilled workers work to get cheap items from the slave labor that took their jobs. Imagine if all of those jobs were still in the USA- all the taxes, all the people working, and a healthy internal competition. The only thing slav labor ''helps'' is a welfare state fueled by consumerists that allow mega corporations to live off pennies to the dollar.
>>27138618
and all the states with dem programs are failed, directly, because of said programs. Its an amazement to me people can live in states like CA, or cities like Detroit, where Dem programs have ruined them and still vote blue. It doesnt make any sense in the least.
>>27134552
trump is making cute boys a thing
>>27138711
i dont care about a business in manhattan, i care about the living room of my home, the groceries in the cabinets..
>>27138623
yeah just ignore the billions wasted on welfare and drug wars, and they're great.
>>27138634
>reading comprehension
I'll reiterate the point for you again: if someone is getting started in the real estate business, one million dollars is basically nothing.
People who get started in this business routinely take out loans in the range of 10s of millions if they can't get by with what they already have.
I'm not talking about the "average american" (nice boogeyman), but someone getting a foothold in real estate.
It sounds strange to you because you don't have anywhere near the experience needed to hold an opinion on this topic, but taking out a large loan doesn't imply someone is rich. That's just the way business works. Ever hear the news stories of some grandma losing her house because her tea and biscuit parlor went out of business? It's because she had to put her house up for collateral to take out the insanely huge loan to start her business. She is definitely not rich.
>>27138740
Then why did you even bother replying to him?
>>27138634
>ive never taken out a loan in my life: the post
For someone who was already successful, he probably had banks clamoring at the heels to loan him much larger amounts. Look up house loans, student loans, car loans and realize they are for small things in the grand scheme and then compare those costs to loans for business start ups.
Then graduate high school.
>>27137797
>Trump is an insecure narcissist and it would terrify me to have him as head of state and in charge of diplomatic negotiations with other countries with the military to back him up.
Shillary Clinton just made almost this exact same point in the town hall right now. Lulz.
>>27138740
it doesn't matter if you don't care about it, that's what he was using the money for. people get that kind of a loan for businesses all the time, trump just decided to do it through his family rather than the jew banks.
>>27138719
Nah, for the most part, people have just moved into other sectors or grandfathered in because of racism even though they're inferior. Those Mexicans live here and they spend their money here. That money goes right into the pockets of other Americans.
>>27137797
>War is a bad thing, remember?
Yes, which is why Trump is the best candidate.
Trump is a true isolationist, who only wants to use military power for going after ISIS and others who pose a direct threat.
Did you entirely miss the times when he has routinely said that he is willing to make amends with Russia to go after ISIS in tandem?
Cruz and Rubio are actual warmongers, who would bomb China at the drop of a hat.
Shillary was responsible for Benghazi, and that should be enough for you to understand why she wouldn't think twice before starting a war.
If you ACTUALLY care about fewer wars and military interventions, then Trump is your best bet.
>>27138786
funny coming from a person who almost single handedly started two wars and pushed for many others, as well as was pro every middle eastern war since 9/11.
>>27137340
>that chart
you really are dumb. if it was as easy as plugging in some policy to some program to generate some numbers that say "is this good, or is this bad?" we would be living in a waaaaaaayyy different society right now. this holds the same credibility as an ms paint comic.
>>27138770
>For someone who was already successful, he probably had banks clamoring at the heels to loan him much larger amounts
Maybe, maybe not. Scale doesn't necessarily create or negate risk.
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
>>27138291
Carter's the one who actually negotiated the release of the hostages, a deal that was concluded before Reagan took office. Reagan literally didn't lift a finger for them and instead used them as a political talking point while Carter was working through the night to secure their release.
>>27138950
Kek. What a coincidence.
>>27138884
But she told us how she's totally a peacemaker and never ever uses the military except as a last resort. It's almost like she's just telling us what she thinks we want to hear and her track record doesn't match up with what she's saying.
>>27138889
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-donald-trump-s-tax-plan
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan
These show the exact same figures as the image, and also show how they were reached.
>>27138934
Not him, but he's right. It's not about "scale", it's about track record and previous experience will taking out and paying back loans.
Someone like Trump who has had success after success basically spells out "FREE MONEY" to the banks, because he's a low risk customer who will almost surely pay back the interest on time.
This is the way loans work for reputable people.
>>27138854
>people have just moved into other sectors or grandfathered in because of racism even though they're inferior.
this has got to be bait, you dont honestly believe this do you?
>Those Mexicans live here and they spend their money here. That money goes right into the pockets of other Americans.
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/24/report-every-deported-illegal-household-saves-taxpayers-more-than-700000/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0d7lAimtlU
educate yourself.
Get ready for PresidentTtrump. I know they're working overtime on 'le rascisim', but centralized media is dead. What you're hearing is their dying gasps. They have no power anymore.
There is a new meme order settling in.
>>27138889
>this holds the same credibility as an ms paint comic.
you realize it has the source on the image correct? and that the source shows all the numbers and how they reached them?
>waaaaaaayyy
we get it, you are underaged.
>>27137070
you said white twice lmao #butthurt
>>27134552
cuz trump is a normie rich fag
>>27139033
>Someone like Trump who has had success after success basically spells out "FREE MONEY" to the banks, because he's a low risk customer who will almost surely pay back the interest on time.
On an individual basis, the deciding factor is usually assets v. debts, but any creditor still look at risk. They have to.
shouldnt the neets of this board support bernie for free shit?
tis makes no sense
>>27139116
every candidate is a rich normie fag.
>>27138130
>so i should vote for the guy who is going to help rich people and not help me?
Kek. How'd that 'hope and change' work out for you Anon?
>>27139033
>a foundation that was founded to lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations thinks Trumps plan is great
>this means the plan is great.
It must be hard to be this mentally challenged.
>>27139124
and yet that one quote from
>>27138770
isnt incorrect by your own admission, it just didnt feel the need to spell everything out.
>>27138634
yes it is a small loan in terms of business loans
business loans for small businesses can be as high as 5 million dollars
>>27139157
'neet' is primarily a meme dipshit.
>>27139157
4chan isn't a neet/degenerate hub anymore. it's for failed normies now
>>27139221
so there are no neets here? only wagecucks trolling wagecuks?
>>27139206
Dude, I'm pro-Trump. I'm just saying the risk of the proposal itself (beyond who brought it to the table) is a factor in any business decision.
>>27139157
Bernies free shit would never happen, the United States has 0 ways to pay for it.
>>27139190
you have 0 idea what you are talking about. I doubt you are even aware of what any of the candidates tax plan consists of.
>>27139218
the point is the guy is wayyy wack out of touch with the average american citizen, and will only hurt non wealthy americans
>>27139248
The 'neets' are mostly post-collegiate adolescents living at their parents and going through a phase.
>>27139261
and my point was disproving that point.
The Small Business Association (SBA) which is a government organization to help small businesses will give small businesses up to $5 million in loans.
One million is both very small relative to what he created, typical loans for small businesses, and typical loans to small businesses in the world of real estate.
Was that /r9k/? There's no way he isn't a channer.
>>27139253
I wasnt disagreeing with you, your posts were correct and filled in the large blanks made. It doesnt negate the point made originally which is why I am confused to the initial protest against it. But its fine fellow, Make Anime Real Again.
>>27139234
>>27139248
4chan never was, and neither was /r9k/, until the feelsfags and then wizards moved in. It was always a failed normie board, until the feels and wizards fucked it so bad jewt deleted it. Then it became reddit and now its just /b/ with less porn.
>>27139190
If you actually bothered reading those two links, you would see that under Trump's plan, people who make less than $25,000 per year have to pay ZERO in federal tax.
One of Trump's major policy positions is to close the major tax loopholes that allow large companies like Apple to get by with paying < 1% taxes, which balances out the lower overall tax level, which this analysis covered completely (and you would have known it, if you bothered to read it).
This benefits everyone: the average worker spends less in tax and saves more money, mom-and-pop businesses have an easier time breaking into the market, and large corporations are forced to pay the taxes they rightfully should have been paying all along.
Sounds like you are the mentally challenged one here. Why bother replying if you can't even read a simple summary?
>>27139303
if i hd rich parents who would give me amillin dollars then maybe i could pull myself up by le bootstraps nd make something of myself but the most i ever got from my parents was like a hundred bucks.
PEOPLE NOT BORN INTO WEALTH DO NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITES AS PEOPLE BORN INTO WEALTH
>>27139303
>One million is both very small relative to what he created, typical loans for small businesses, a
Dude, I'm pro-Trump, but you're out of you're fucking mind if you think your average small business in the US has any chance in hell of getting a 5 million ( or 1 million) loan from anyone. (not that that is a bad thing)
>>27137291
Fuck off cuckservative. No white liberal city is anywhere near as bad as Detroit or Flint. Race is a much bigger factor than politics.
>>27139261
>wayyy
you need to stop posting like a 12 year old girl.
>will only hurt non wealthy americans
since multiple posters have already stated, in very detailed form, how he will help the average and poor classes- please, state any proof (or even a semblance of an idea) on how any of his proposals will hurt non wealthy americans.
>>27139366
Or you could just go to the SBA or a regular bank and get a business loan as literally every other start up in the entire country does.
>>27139366
>PEOPLE NOT BORN INTO WEALTH DO NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITES AS PEOPLE BORN INTO WEALTH
No shit.
PEOPLE NOT BORN INTO LOOKS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS PEOPLE BORN INTO LOOKS.
life's not fair brah. never has been.
>>27139261
Compared to the other candidates, who are all career politicans, Trump actually relates to the average person the most.
There comes a point when someone has made so much money that taking lobbyist bribes is out of the question, since what they are offering you is basically nothing compared to the amount you already have.
Why else would he run for president? He knows his businesss bring in more than the president's salary, and is probably less stressful as well.
>>27139367
Look up the SBA.
>>27139407
If the guy you were replying to actually had the drive to do something with his life, he wouldn't even need to be told that.
>>27139382
>Race is a much bigger factor than politics.
Except all of those cities keep electing Democrats. Hmm....just baffling.
>>27139366
my mother, a single parent who didnt graduate highschool, started her own business that was much smaller than Trumps proposal and got a large sum because good credit.
Maybe if you didnt have a victim complex and were of any use to anyone you also could get a small loan, start a small business, run it well, have it expand, pay off your loan, get a larger loan, and work your way up.
>>27139367
True, but its not like he squandered it. Even if it had been less, it would have made enough eventually considering how much that small loan of a million turned into.
>>27139407
>Or you could just go to the SBA or a regular bank and get a business loan as literally every other start up in the entire country does.
Dude, again, I'm pro-Trump, and a small business owner, and you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>27139367
You're out of your fucking mind if you think the average brick-and-mortar business didn't start with a multi-million loan.
>>27139352
If you actually read the report then you would realize it says that it would increase deficits by over $10 trillion over the next ten years. That's after all that voodoo economics shit that has been proven false time and time again. Tax cuts do not lead to economic growth in any reliable manner. It's a joke of a plan.
>>27139452
>>27139452
>mfw "drive" and "positive attitude" is a product of a healthy, normal family envoironment growing up, like rich people have
>>27139481
How small is your business.
There's a difference between selling knick-knacks on etsy and having a few stores in the area.
I'm voting for trump for one reason only
To get rid of the immigrant problem.
Literally nothing is a bigger threat to America then the flow of foreigners into the country, they take jobs and act as a 5th column promoting the importation of more of their kind.
They need to go.
>>27139438
lol, it's a government agency. Look Anon, it costs a few hundred dollars to incorporate a business. That does not in anyway somehow grant you access to 7 figure loans.
>>27139481
This is so funny
How the fuck do you think businesses get started? Who's going to pay for the property, the insepction fees, the business assets, the paperwork and the attorneys required? Do you think that Bob the mechanic really has enough cash in his basement to pay all that from his pocket?
If you don't have a criminal record and have a decent credit score and registered your business properly with the state secretary, loan money will be handed out like candy.
Stop posting dude, you are embarrassing yourself.
>>27139456
You completely sidestepped my point. If politics is the greater factor, why is it that white democrat strongholds like Portland, Brooklyn, etc are economically and socially thriving?
>>27134580
It's like how /lgbt/ is in love with /pol/
>>27134552
trump is exactly the kind of person who wouldn't think twice to wipe all weaboos out
>>27139483
Are you insane? Are you a teenager? Do you know anyone who owns a business?
>>27139510
Oh so now we're going to redefine what 'small business' means? You're wrong. Accept it.
>>27139603
No and yes.
Starting a business is incredibly expensive, and loans are ubiquitous.
You haven't said anything of value yet. If you have no points to make, feel free to stop posting anytime.
>>27139634
looks like my point made severe impact.
There are different sized small businesses
If you just make wallets in your garage, then you shouldn't expect anything substantial in loans.
If you manage 2 burger restaurants and want to open up a third one, you can expect the loaners to be very generous.
>>27139634
Not him, but even if you are selling some trinkets on etsy, you can easily get enough money through loans to get started if you can't pay it yourself.
You're wrong, accept it.
>>27139510
Do you dipshits have any idea what kind of collateral you have to have to secure a 7 figure loan?
Seriously STFU, you don't know what you are talking about.
>>27139499
>Tax cuts do not lead to economic growth in any reliable manner
laughinggirls.jpg
>>27139679
When you're in the market of real estate like Trump was, everything you deal with is collateral
>>27139557
>If you don't have a criminal record and have a decent credit score and registered your business properly with the state secretary, loan money will be handed out like candy.
Bwahahaha...c'mon dude.
>>27139641
>and loans are ubiquitous.
If you have collateral. If not you get investors and give away equity. You're not going to magically get some 7 figure loan w/o collateral.
>>27139499
>hurr hurr i don't know any of trump's policy positions but i feel the need to voice my childish opinions anyways
His economic growth plan includes cutting out the boatloads of free money we give to other countries in the form of tariffs, and start introducing tariffs of our own.
If tax cuts are cut equally across the board (note Trump's plans to completely remove federal taxes for poor and low-middle class people), then there will definitely be a positive effect on the economy.
The lower-middle class comprises the biggest consumers in the US, who will buy anything if they like an advertisement. Did you think that lowering these guys' taxes somehow wouldn't drive them to spend more money to put back into the economy?
>>27139663
>even if you are selling some trinkets on etsy, you can easily get enough money through loans to get started
lol, no you can't.
Unless you want to call credit cards at 18% interest a 'loan'.
>>27139696
No. I don't think you know what 'collateral' means. Collateral is personal assets.
>>27139505
what's your point? You want Bernard to give you a new family? Subsidizing destructive social behaviors like single motherhood and non-traditional families just create more of the same.
>>27139707
>>27139783
>>27139811
You guys obviously have no experience with any kind of business.
You will obviously get large loans with collateral, but the SBA has no problem with giving out huge loans with almost no collateral to people who don't have a criminal record.
Seriously, educate yourselves on the topic: https://www.sba.gov/loanprograms
These small business loan assistance programs have been around for many decades, I had really thought it would be common knowledge at this point.
>>27139833
>every person on benefits is a single mother or a black person who spends all his money on 40oz beers maymay
you have committed a logical fallacy, try again
>>27139867
dont bother man, these people have never applied for a loan in their life, and think going on /biz/ to learn about crypto currency makes them an expert/
>>27139867
kek. So your plan is that this gov agency is going to give you a 7 figure loan w/o collateral because you have no criminal record?
Are you black? Be honest.
>>27139959
Did you even open the link I posted?
>>27139922
Lol, you dopes really think someone is just going to hand you a 7 figure loan?
I don't know if that is funny or just sad.
>>27139986
How much experience do you have with starting and running businesses?
>>27139982
The SBA is a liberal agency that underwrites loans for minority business.
First of all, if you're a white you'll never see any of this money.
It's another form of government welfare.If trump is elected it is the kind of thing he would cut (rightfully so).
If you think they're magically going to loan you a million dollars you're out of you're mind.
>>27140033
10 years. No one gives you money for free Anon.
>>27139959
>Are you black? Be honest.
answer plz.
>>27140123
Small business owner here. i could probably get a 7 figure loan if I had to. But they'd want me to put up my house as collateral.
You guys have a lot to learn about how business works.
>>27140107
Wrong on all counts. The SBA isn't liberal, and all my white friends who applied for SBA loans got them quickly.
Trump actually supports this kind of support for small businesses, because it's the most reasonable way to grow an economy.
>still repeating the cute "you're out of your mind" schtick
I don't see why this is so hard for you to understand, you obviously have no knowledge of the subject. Either study up on it yourself or take my word for it, you are acting like a petulant child.
>>27140123
It was a rhetorical question, you weren't supposed to actually answer it. You obviously have never managed a business, and probably are hardly qualified to have your current job.
>>27140200
In some cases, you can get by with a personal guarantee, but if your business flounders, declaring bankruptcy might not save you entirely.
>>27140145
No, I'm Chinese. Why are you fixated on race?
>>27140275
>all my white friends
hahaha...knew it. Obvious is obvious. Dem programs iz gonna gibs me a million dollars.
>>27140357
They will.
Many normal and average americans who have stood up on their own feet and started a business have gone through the SBA for a loan.
This isn't some welfare nonsense, because any money given out through loans is a direct boost for the american economy.
>>27140275
>In some cases, you can get by with a personal guarantee, but if your business flounders, declaring bankruptcy might not save you entirely.
What the fuck are you talking about? This sentence doesn't make sense. I promise you Anon the bank will not take my 'personal guarantee'. They're going to want collateral that is not protected by bankruptcy laws. Duh.
>>27134552
Who's that on the left? He's cute.
>>27140430
Nigga plz. I live in NYC. They have dem programs here that will give you an apartment for like $500 a month. They exist. Of course the odds of getting one of these apartments are akin to winning the lottery.
If you're plan is that some gov. agency is going to write you a 7 figure check, there is about a 99% chance you're fucked.
>>27140439
In particular instances, you can get a loan without collateral by giving a "personal guarantee".
You will get the money, but if you can't pay it back and declare bankruptcy, the SBA can still sue you to garnish future wages.
If you go the regular collateral route (which is what most people do), and your business goes down later and you declare bankruptcy, the SBA will grab all the collateral you offered and your credit is wiped out for some years, but they CANNOT sue you for wages or personal non-collateral assets.
Basically, if you manage to get a loan on personal guarantee and cannot pay it back, you are utterly fucked.
>>27140512
Educate yourself on small business loan programs.
>>27140275
>SBA isn't liberal,
PUHleeze, You're absolutely full of shit..
"The SBA has survived a number of threats to its existence. In 1996, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives planned to eliminate the agency.[7] It survived and went on to receive a record high budget in 2000.[8] Renewed efforts by the Bush Administration to end the SBA loan program met congressional resistance, although the SBA's budget was repeatedly cut, and in 2004 certain expenditures were frozen. The Obama Administration has supported the SBA budget. Significant supplemental appropriations for the agency strengthened SBA lending through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and the Small Business Jobs Act of 2010.[9]"
>>27140480
John. A robot who got bullied by normies.
>>27140543
You're not Chinese. You're brand of bullshit is pure nignog. Nice try.
>>27140603
But where is he? I'm searching for John and I cant find anything related to him.
>>27140543
>"personal guarantee"
Nigga go into any bank tomorrow with your 'personal guarantee' rahrah and gt back to us with what happens.
>>27140543
>Educate yourself on small business loan programs.
The one you just told me wasn't liberal?
>>27140601
>muh democrat/republican split
Not only do you not know anything about business, but you are also completely ignorant about politics as well. This misinterpretation is what happens when you try to grasp at straws.
Establishment "conservative" candidates all say that they care about small businesses, but they try to destroy these programs to make their "muh deficit" numbers look better.
Establishment "liberal" candidates don't claim to care about small businesses one way or the other, but they try to fund these programs to make their "look we're helping you guys just trust us" numbers look better.
Trump is the only one in the race right now to single out small business spending as a huge benefit to all Americans, because supporting organizations like the SBA is what conservative administrations are supposed to be doing anyways.
>>27140652
I am chinese, but your style of posting outs you as low-income white trash.
>>27140680
SBA loans go through a separate system.
>>27134552
But I do support him, he's the only one reducing taxation at my level. On top of this I don't want to go to school with the free babbies. Anytime something is free it brings in the worst people imaginable. I reserve my right to go to school and avoid peasants/niggers/retards who are inevitably going to flunk out and waste their time losing to people like me.
I will not be put on the same level as the foreign hordes.
>>27134622
A new breed of Chad will be born, the ultimate alpha male. And we will all be a part of itplease don't ruin this for me this is the only reason I'm still happy
>>27137355
>im 18 now
Oh I am laffin.
>>27140713
Yes, the one that isn't actually liberal, but you don't know enough to know that. See >>27140716
>>27140725
good god you sound like the worst kind of asshole. You act really high and mighty for someone who is going to college on someone else's dime (your families, apparently). Pull yourself up by your own boot straps like a real man, then you can act so stuck up as much as you want. Until then, you're no better than any peasant, nigger, or retard going to school on Uncle Sam's money.
Why don't we build an actual robot to run the country, and then when it finally turns on us to protect us from ourselves, we get a cool movie IRL
>>27140601
The SBA basically funds minority business which in turn receive government contracts.
I have no idea what that other Anon is talking about. The SBA is as left wing as it gets.
And the odds of some average Joe receiving one of these loans for their business is essentially 0%.
>>27140812
>grievous
>robot
>>27140796
I actually get paid to go by my own performance. My family makes about $30k a year.
In middle and high school I ate about half a canned meal a day, went without electricity for weeks at random intervals and gas for 3 months every winter.
I do not want the free loaners because I have worked alongside the poor and uneducated for most of my life, they are a tremendous waste of time to be unable to bring themselves out of their situation and are most certainly not fit for any educational system with people willing to invest themselves both academically and financially if need be.
If the socialist old guy wins the U.S. is fucked.
T. A robot from a socialist country
>>27140669
he removed all traces of himself because homolusted /pol/acks kept harassing him.
>>27140716
Again. if you're business plan relies on getting one of these 'loans' (aka government welfare for blacks) you're out of your mind. Good luck with that.
>>27140901
>dae le loan = welfare haha bernie 2016 xD
woah, real deep, tyrone
what immaculate knowledge are you gonna spit out next?
>>27140843
Yeah, yeah, I know. I like his aesthetic though, and I think that is what we should build our robot to look like. I mean, you know that scene where he holds up his arm and the droids stop shooting and you just see him there in his cloak? That is fucking badass.
>>27140893
so not even a source for this image? was he in a video or some crap?
>>No.27140716
>>27140943
Yes Anons. Small business in the US have a 75% failure rate in the 1st year in the US because getting an unsecured Small Business loan is simple.
Are you dude shills or just stupid as shit?
>>27140888
Yup. You dudes know. Ask any old Cuban guy in Miami. They'll tell you the same thing.
>>27140893
I thought it was /lgbt/ that was stalking his social media and phone and shit
>>27141037
even small businesses that fail in their first year have good effects on the economy, unlike your government housing and food stamps, tyrone
encouraging many small business to start even at a public deficit would still be a net benefit for everyone, but i wouldn't expect a nig like you to know anything about that.
>>27141037
They fail 75% of the time because they suck ass or were retarded ideas to begin with.
>>27141028
why are you faggots so persistent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nw405j2hOQ
>>27141191
Because they just want to reject your information anyways and talk about how racist Trump is.
It's the case of all Bernouts.
>>27141120
tyrone? what are you talking about? you're the one arguing for government handouts.
>>27141120
>encouraging many small business to start even at a public deficit would still be a net benefit for everyone,
aka...dem programs.
>>27141155
Yeah, someone should tell them that all they need to do is get a big check from the government. PUHleeze.
>>27141261
nope. "dem programs" are bad because they don't benefit everyone except the gangbangers and slobs who take advantage of them.
government-assisted small business loans are a good thing because they encourage people to create more competition with the established big guys.
you sould like an edgy teenage antifa fag, to be honest.
>>27141239
>dae le loans = le handouts xD bernie bernie haha
not fooling anyone, tyrone.
>>27141296
need mo money fo dem programz help get my small biznez off its feet it's a hotel service for vegan homosexual dogs #notalldogs got my degree in gender studies fo dis pls give money
>>27141328
>government-assisted small business loans are a good thing because they encourage people to create more competition with the established big guy
aka socialism.
Liberal plez. Are you a shill sent here to win over the 'alt-right'?
>>27141328.
>If I call him 'Tyrone', it will obfuscate my socialist agenda.
>>27141365
socialism only applies to situations where the government controls the business
if regular old joe doesn't get a loan to start a business, there will be less competition, in which the government can step in and start to control the large players with "antitrust" regulations
at the end of the day, if you don't support helping out people start small businesses, you are directly supporting socialism.
you are the shill here.
>>27141337
butz you gotz to habs no criminal record homie. best put that shit in yo girlz name.
>>27141419
>socialism only applies to situations where the government controls the business
sort of sounds like the SBA.
Smh.
>>27141388
do you know what that word means, tyrone?
creating more private competition in industry is about as far away from socialism as you can get.
trump has repeatedly said that he would support these ideas to get small businesses running.
sounds like you have a socialist agenda, kiddo.
>>27141436
>giving a loan = controlling the business
they have no say about anything other than collecting routine payments.
>>27141421
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*smacks lips*
shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
*smacks lips*
>>27141419
>at the end of the day, if you don't support helping out people start small businesses, you are directly supporting socialism.
kek. Liberal mental gymnastics at their finest.
Nice try. Are you for Shillary or that that cuck Sanders?
>>27141421
>>27141464
butthurt wagecucks detected
>>27134552
who is on the left
can i get a news article, video, anything desu
so out of the loop
>>27141478
>muh "mental gymnastics"
You haven't made a single point in this entire thread.
Which democrat are you going to vote for?
>>27141462
>private
It's not private if the government are guaranteeing the loans. Duh.
Lol at 'Tyrone'. I'm a white conservative. Your brand of media manipulation is obsolete.
my older brother would chase me into a corner and wave his erect dick in my face when I was a little kid.
>>27141504
You should try for an internship at CNN. You'd be perfect.
>>27141524
>conservative
No, you are just an edgy anarchist.
Actual conservatives support government spending on military and police, and most conservatives do support systems in place to create more competition. Allowing oligopolies to form is exactly the liberal mindset that has caused so much damage to this country over the last 2 decades.
>>27141557
>still no arguments
Until you can explain the twisted logic in your head that somehow increased competition and a more laissez-faire economy are "socialist" pursuits, don't even bother replying.
>>27141625
>most conservatives do support systems in place to create more competition.
Except for the last conservative present who actively tried to eliminate the program your advocating.
Ok, dude. Shill on Anon.
>>27141687
You completely ignored >>27140716
Ok, dude. Shill on Anon.
>>27141625
>most conservatives do support systems in place to create more competition.
WTF are you talking about? Most conservatives advocate for a free market.
Take your disinformation campaign to reddit or something. You're full of shit.
>>27141732
More competition is a sign of a healthy free market, buddy
>>27141707
No it's a fact. Sorry.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2005-02-14/business/0502140025_1_billion-in-lending-authority-sba-budget-request
>>27141751
Government aid for minority business is the exact opposite of a free market.
>>27141751
Holy shit. Are you for real? Government interference in private industry is the opposite of a free market.
>>27141759
Did you even read the post I linked you?
That article proves my exact point.
Neither actually care about the SBA and small business (because big incumbent companies have these politicians in their pockets). One side tries to cut down SBA to make themselves look good, and the other side tries to fund SBA to make themselves look good to the other side.
Neither is doing it out of some kind of ideological bias.
>>27141788
>muh minorities
I'm calling bullshit on this. Do you have any proof?
>>27141751
>More competition
It's not 'competition' if one side is funded by the government.
Socialist detected.
>>27141837
>I'm calling bullshit on this. Do you have any proof?
It's literally on their website. OMG. How old are you? Are you a student?
https://www.sba.gov/content/minority-owned-businesses
>>27141811
It's not interference, because the government doesn't push themselves as a shareholder in the business and makes no decisions. They just provide the loans, get routine payments, and provide some legal counseling (which is completely optional and has nothing to do with their loans).
I don't understand how you can claim that loans are "government interference" with a straight face.
>>27141867
That's the 8a assistance program. This thread is clearly talking about the 7a loans, which are BY FAR the most popular, and aren't restricted to minorities, or any other socioeconomic nonsense.
You are really starting to grasp at straws now.
>>27141838
>one side is funded by the government
Both "sides" can be funded by the government, and the government cannot make decisions for either, and will only take their payments.
I'm pretty sure you're confusing subsidized loans with VC investments, which do grant the VC's shareholder status.
>>27134622
he tweeted a pepe he is one of us
>>27141912
>It's not interference just funding.
Providing funding is the ULTIMATE interference. PUHleeze.
>>27141971
How so? Could you elaborate any?
