What happens to you after you die?
>>27031368
As far as we can tell, you stop existing.
>>27031413
>As far as we can tell, you stop existing.
But what does that feel like?
>>27031368
Nothing. You end up a lifeless, decaying corpse in a casket 6 feet underground while I'm going for a stroll in that very graveyard in a state of pure bliss of being surrounded by the calmness/stillness of death. There is no meaning to any of this, so I forever remain an immortal observer in this pale life until long after you die & fade into the void.
What happened to you before the two sex cells that created you came to be?
What happens to you before you die?
>>27031368
You become leave my swamp.
>>27031451
Like absolutely nothing, if that's what happens. Like falling asleep, except forever and without dreaming
>>27031368
You get reincarnated. You enter a plane of clarity. Then you are reborn and all is forgotten again. You still hold onto some aspects of your previous life and how you lives will determine where/how you will be reborn.
>>27031451
Like before you were born, before you were even a sperm
Your brain spirit leaves you and finds a home in another mans sperm, if you're worthy of being reborn you will fertilize a female egg (inhabited by a girls soul) and be born again.
>>27031368
you become worm food lmao *tips enlightence*
the pain goes away
>>27031492
Hows highschool you edgy cunt
>>27031492
how's pie school you fatty lump
>>27031515
you shitpost on a norwegian tap dancing forum
>>27031593
>>27031613
>being a samefag
I'm not sure, but I really wish I could find out. I'm tired of being alive.
>>27031593
>He doesn't believe in my religion so he must be in highschool.
>Being an atheist/agnostic is edgy because reasons
>>27031673
at the end of the day indulging in religion is just a way to pass the time, we have no way of verifying the nature of god or if he even exists.
>>27031673
I don't believe in a god either but it's edgy af to think when you die you cease to exist. You absolutely don't know what happens when u die
>>27031765
> it's edgy af to think when you die you cease to exist
there is absolutely no reason to believe otherwise
>>27031765
It's true. Anyone who claims to know what happens when you die is full of shit.
>>27031765
I don't get how that's edgy. Is it edgy to think you go to heaven too?
>>27031703
The big bang is not a theory cus, it happened.
>idk
>but what if nothing happens
>>27031782
>literally all societies and cultures have an after life mythology
>"no reason"
Sure anon, EVERYONE is wrong, except the 2% of the world's population who is still in high school and therefore Athiest degenerates.
>>27031827
That's not true. It is a theory.
>>27031827
But what caused the big bang?
I seriously doubt it was caused by the petulant God of the Old Testament, but does anything exist outside our universe? Is our universe just a pocket in a larger Universe?
>>27031850
I wonder what it's like to be you?
>>27031850
>Argumentum ad populum
>For something everybody is heavily inclined to want to believe because everybody dies
Come on now.
>>27031850
Explain said culturally pervasive after-life mythology
To be fair it is quite possible that all of those people are wrong, and it's also possible that at the same time those who think there is no God are also wrong.
The world isn't black and white you dumb faggot.
>>27031850
>literally all societies and cultures have an after life mythology
INDULGING IN RELIGION IS A WAY TO PASS TIME ANON, AN AFTERLIFE DOESN'T MAKE EPISTEMIC SENSE
HOW ARE THEY MORE QUALIFIED THEN LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE TO MAKE THAT CALL
>>27031765
its nice to think theres something after all this, but i find it harder to convince myself that there is every single day. all comes down to how you see shit mane
>>27031827
You believe that something came from nothing. My faith could never be that strong.
It's not pragmatic, it's unquranic. It violates the second law of Theromodynamics.
Think about it.
>>27031368
Those who have accepted Jesus Christ has their lord and saviour will ascend to Heaven with God.
Those who do not will burn in hell for eternity.
>>27031914
Well supposedly all the energy in the universe was concentrated to a single point, anything beyond that point in time cannot be measured so for all we know the Universe has been in a constant state of expansion and contraction for eternity.
>>27031898
My guess is that God, the Christian God, came to all the men of the world after humanity had developed sufficiently but his message was corrupted by everyone aside from the Jews. He sent his son to Shepard us further, and here we are.
>>27031914
Anything is possible. It might just be that at that level, conventional physics/thermodynamics do not apply. It's true for the quantum level so why is it so hard to believe that it could be a similar situation on a meta scale?
>>27031703
The bible has many recounts of the nature of God. Look at how the scriptures accuartely match each other. See the dead scrolls.
>>27031898
this is so. god is nothingness
>>27031884
>fallacy fallacy
human beings know intuitively what lies beyond life because they have souls.
>>27031937
>burn in hell for eternity
that's a fucking contradiction right there, as assumes we understand the nature of time
>>27031955
>believing in the Big Bounce meme
That shit got rejected 8 years ago when Steven Hawking discovered Hawking Radiation. It's looking like Big Freeze is the most likely death scenario now.
Sorry mate.
>>27031985
One possibility of many.
If we make the assumption that everything has a beginning and an end, god doesn't exist
If god was behind the big bang who was behind god?
>>27032008
Note how I said supposedly. I don't believe in anything 100%
>>27031985
Into the Abyss.
Great documentary by the way. Look it up, you guys would probably love it.
That being said, I find myself taking the 'Douglas Feldman Approach' more often these days.
That's the idea that we just become biomass after we die and that everything is essentially meaningless at it's base level.
I know he didn't invent that concept but it's in the documentary, so fuck off nigger.
>>27031985
>Human beings know intuitively what lies beyond life because they have souls
>Multiple conflicting soul fates from multiple religions and cultures
>No evidence of a soul in the first place
>>27031982
>look at how the scriptures accurately match each other
lol m8 have you read the Bible? That shit is full of contradictions. Literally to the brim. Here's a question for you, when they arrived at Christ's tomb on the third day, was the tomb open or closed? Depends on the book.
There's also shitloads of minor scriptures that weren't included in the Bible during the Council of Nicea with all sorts of wacky shit like Jesus talking to dragons.
>>27032017
Sometimes I like to think that the big bang was just some psychopath neckbeard booting up a computer and that we are all just simulated.
>>27031368
Nothing happens, because there is no "you" in the first place. It seems like there is, but there isn't, every particle within you is distinct from the other next to it, and will take its own path in the universe's matter history. It's been part of other things, dead or living, before you, and it will continue to be after you.
But concretly, it's like sleeping, except there are no dreams, and you don't wake up.
>>27032051
In all fairness to anon, you are nitpicking. They are essentially the same.
>>27032077
Of course. The general story is the same and Christ is undeniably our savior. Nothing beyond minor details is conflated in these contradictions.
>>27032066
i came here to laugh at us
>>27032095
I wasn't defending your overall opinion. It's still retarded.
Me and Christ are still tight af though.
>>27032066
Lol,
Then who created the neckbeard dumbass? kek
>>27032136
Super Neckbeard
>>27032136
I like to think that the neckwear who made us will live in a world where he knows the meaning of life and he was created for a reason. That still throws you into another paradox though. Life is so fucking strange. How the fuck are we here
>>27032136
It was a joke dickwad.
>>27032197
Don't blaspheme the Neckbeard, mortal.
>>27032227
>27032227
I will slice up the neckbeard and go about my day. You fat retards make me sick.
>you will never become god in your own universe after death
Does tipping a fedora express reverence for or disbelief in hypothetical neckbeard god?
>>27032315
If that was a slant at me >>27032197 how dare you. I will never be one of you, even though I'm posting here.
you get buried and live underground forever in complete darkness alone with your thoughts or you get burnt into ashes over the course of 2-3 hours which probably hurts and then you are ashes, but still exist, which i imagine feels like being in an intense migraine/dream forever but incapable of forming thoughts or images, just hollow colors.
>>27032361
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. If you don't have cognitive function you can't see colors or have thoughts nigger.
This happens
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/237318
we are highly advanced organisms, hence we are pondering such things.
God isn't a physical entity, nor does any 'god' exist
fucking quacks
>>27031529
This desu
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>>27032438
Like I said earlier in the thread: Anyone who claims to know what happens after you die is full of shit.
i.e. You.
That being said,
Teach me how to >Greentext. Teach, teach me how to >Greentext.
Heart stops beating and oxygen stops flowing to your brain. You are basically "brain dead" like most people in comas. Once your brain is dead it is reported that your brain releases chemicals called DMT. DMT is the chemical that your body produces to cause you to dream. This is the same chemical in which people state that when they are unconscious they see the "white light"
So basically when you die you create your own Heaven or Hell with your dead brain.
Then again matter cannot be created or destroyed so we don't know if you can be reincarnated into someone else and your get the subconsciousness of someone else.
>>27032475
Do you know what epistemology is?
If you throw a piece of paper into the fire, that piece of paper ceases to exist
why should humans be any different
>>27032533
Not true. It just changes into a gaseous form. In your mind you may think it ceases to exist because you cant see it anymore, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist any longer.
Boom. Because fuck you that's why.
>>27032035
that's retarded.
>>27032050
and yet they all have souls in their cultures. don't be fucking retarded. you lack intuition.
>>27031368
A lot of things...people have had a lot of different experiences. There's hundreds of them posted on this site.
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/NDERF_NDEs.htm
>>27032492
How do you know that any of that bullshit is true if you're still alive?
>>27032475
That's why agnosticism is the only way to go. In the end we all don't fucking know anything.
>tfw for the past week the idea of death and nonexistence has been keeping me up at night
It's not like my life is even good. I just don't want to stop existing.
>>27031368
Nobody will even notice, except you have some (close) relatives left.
Or your landlord when you get runny and start to flow into the staircase from under the door.
>>27032533
it doesn't cease to exist, it changes form, until it rejoins the earth, becomes recycled in the universe and after a an untold amount of time it is reformed into a similar paper state
and thats only with things that do not have consciousness
>>27032575
You saying 'that's retarded' is retarded. What about what I said is retarded? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not true. You're entitled to your opinion just like I am mine. I'm not even saying I think that is the only logical way. But it does make sense. We humans give meaning to objects.
Refute. Or just call me a retard again like the retard that you are.
>people actually think it matters if something does or doesn't happen after you die
>>27032559
you're a fucking idiot;
it loses the qualities which make it a piece of paper, much like how when someone dies they lose the qualities which make them human
>>27031368
We aren't meant to know.
Disregard books that promise you ecstasy after death if you follow their tenets.
Disregard those who say only dark nothingness will ensue.
Focus on living now.
>>27032616
Trade places with me. My life is good yet I don't want to exist any longer.
>>27032608
Ehh.. I don't know. I'd rather not define myself by any one school of thought.
>>27031368
Nothing happens.
Brain activity ceases and you cease to exist.
You wouldn't know your were you dead as you wouldn't exist.
>>27032650
Whether it "matters" or not it's still interesting to discuss.
Or you could, you know, just stare off into space with a glazed expression until you expire.
>>27032652
Yes, but the matter which made up the piece of paper still exist. Technically speaking the piece of paper still exists, but in a different form.
No I'm not, you're just a salty dickwad with a small dickwad.
Mormon here.
>>27032680
* exists
INB4 the salty dickwad calls out my typo like a true salty dickwad.
>>27032605
Scientist have extracted the brain of a dead person and found traces of the chemical DMT inside of the brain.
>>27031368
Decomposition
>>27032677
I don't disagree, anon. That wasn't my point. If it makes you feel better I'll contribute something to the thread.
There is no way to know for certain. There :)
>>27032635
a theory of negation is more illogical a theory of positivism because
1 you are smaller than the system you exist in, and as such have yet to discover the entirety if the nature of said system
2 it is basically intellectual torpor
so yes, you are a retard for ahutting down and claiming everything is meaningless, stay mad, suck a fucking dick, and enjoy your retarded meaningless existence while people continue to delve into life to find their own truths through personal experience
>>27032695
As someone who has done dmt and broken through, I wouldn't doubt it one iota.
>>27032711
There's no way to be certain whether or not there is a way to be certain. :)))))
>>27032752
There you go :P
>>27032713
I said that I sometimes like to take the 'douglas feldman approach' it depends on how I feel. I never said that it was the only way.
It sounds like you are the one who is mad. Kind of ironic from someone claiming to be a 'positivist'. I'm not telling you how to think, you are just scared that what I said was right and that it would affirm the deep dark thoughts that haunt your mind.
I'll figure it out. I'm not inherently nihilistic, I feel like I know 'God'. I was playing devils advocate but you had to jump on board and shove your ideas down my throat didn't you?
>>27031850
Thanks anon, whenever I'm feeling down there's always people like you.
>>27032680
the properties which make it a 'piece of paper' (flat, white etc) cease to exist anon, what's so hard about that to understand
>>27032796
you know it in your heart to be true though.. "they" don't, but you do. that our destiny is to transcend. the beginnings of wisdom and the climb towards godhood. or "gnosis"
>>27032778this text has no intent or purpose beyond conveying the image posted adjacent
>>27032867
I understand what he was getting at. I'm just playing devils advocate. In the same way that one could say it is isn't a piece of paper any longer you could say the opposite because the components that made it white and flat still exist. My point is that meaning lies in perception.
So maybe we still can have meaning after death if we can still perceive in some way.
>>27032881
Yes, that's true. I do feel that way, even though sometimes I want to think everything is meaningless for whatever reason, probably a meaningless one ;)
>>27031368
Like the time you spend sleeping after getting blackout drunk, except you don't wake up.
>>27031850
IMHO the after life mytgologies in all those cultures derive from the fear everybody has. Which is to die. We don't know what happens after you die and it is a very comforting thought that life just goes on whether it is in heaven or whatever. I think that (because of evolution) everybody fears death deep down inside.
Hopefully, every injustice will be made right. I don't believe it will however.
I'm not a believer so if there is a god I'm probably fucked but so long as every evil deed is punished accordingly and all is made right I'll be fine.
An old preacher woman told me that she was expecting to see the kingdom coming. I asked her if she was expecting to see it in her lifetime and she said she was - I hope she's right.
So do you guys remember these? You fold a piece of paper make a bunch of cuts in it and it comes out as a sweet looking pattern.
Well I was bored the other day and made one just for the fuck of it.
annddd.....
>>27032936
you don't understand the analogy i'm making anon, the properties which make us 'human' cease to exist when we die
we know from science that you can't make matter disappear, so your argument is fucking retarded
It came out like this. I swear to Christ I cut it randomly.
Not a organized religion fag, but this was kind of funny. Most likely a coincidence, but still doe.
>>27033003
And I would argue that they don't cease to exist because they follow the same law as matter does.
I understand what you're saying, I just fundamentally disagree with you.
Are you of the opinion that everyone who doesn't agree with you is retarded? Because that's kind of what it sounds like.
>>27033015
symmetry is a principle of beauty m8
>>27033036
it's not a fucking matter of 'agreeing' with me, you don't see dead people fucking talking/walking like they're 'alive', they lose the properties which makes them alive.
The cease to exist in the sense that they lose the properties which makes 'alive', WHATS SO FUCKING HARD ABOUT THAT TO UNDERSTAND YOU STUPID FUCKING HICK.
>>27033134
Yes, it is a matter of agreeing with you. Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true. If everything that has ever existed and will ever exist (including our thoughts and perceptions) that means that, at least theoretically, we will always be alive.
Also weren't you just arguing that everything does have meaning? If when we cease to exist we lose what makes us human. And if being human is what gives us the ability to perceive something as meaningful, doesn't that mean that everything is inherently meaningless like the idea I was tossing around from the start?
It seems like you just want to argue due to your saltiness.
Also calm down, this is why we can't have nice things.
>>27031368
You'll forget how you died, then you have to play some game against someone else in order to determine whether you'll be reincarnated or cast into the void.
>>27033248
If that's the case, I'm assuming it will go something like this:
Me: "Void, Void, Void, Void, Void. FUCK!"
God: "You will now become a fugly chinese butch lesbian who's not even good at math"
SHATATATA
>>27033207
> doesn't that mean that everything is inherently meaningless
yes, i'm a physicalist. We are unique in the sense that we are the most advanced multicellular organisms on planet earth, hence why we ponder the subject of religion etc.
there is no god, what you choose to do with your time is up to you.
>>27033305
God is a hermaphrodite.
I'm confused were you the guy who just called me a hick or are you someone else? Am I talking to two different people?
>>27031368
You will stay in your grave untill the day of judgement. On that all dead will rise and then there is a trial for everyone.
>>27033337
>god is a hermaphrodite
what the fuck are you on about,
>>27033373
I mean, I was half joking. But kind of this idea that God has no gender or is a combination of both i.e. a hermaphrodite. Basically God can quite literally go fuck himself.
Jokes, don't smite me J.C.. I want to smoke a blunt with you in heaven.
>>27033434
assigning a 'gender' to god as if he's some physical entity is a really pathetic attempt to try and make sense of things
>>27033460
holey fuck i just called god a 'he' fuck my bad
>inb4
>>27033460
If God encompasses all things and all things are a reflection of God then God is male, female, and more.Not arguing that point btw, but that is the reason Deists say God is a hermaphrodite
>>27033460
It was a fucking joke, holy shit. You're one salty motherfucker, you know that?
And like I said earlier in this thread, twice. Anyone who claims to know what happens after they die or what god is is full of shit.
i.e. you
>>27033493
Fucking thank you. I'm not saying it's right or wrong I was just introducing the idea since salty faggot over here said that there was no 'God'.
>>27033515
* since he made a blanket statement himself, I thought I'd make one myself.
The Buddhists were close to the answer. Death is Nirvana. You feel nothing and you become nothing. And for all we know this is just one of many realities in which we are living out just one infinitesimal span of life.
>>27031529
How does reincarnation even work? More people have died than currently alive. reincarnation would imply that the worlds population remains stable
>>27033601Reincarnation doesn't work.
>>27033565
That honestly sounds so nice.
>>27033494
>Anyone who claims to know what happens after they die or what god is is full of shit
i never made that claim anon
>>27031529
Wishful thinking in its most obvious form.
>>27033731
Yes you did. >>27033305 "there is no god"
>>27033460 Here you also implied that God is not a physical entity which 'it' may very well be (assuming 'it exists'), just in some way we can't fathom.
So again, you're full of shit.
>>27033515
There is rational reason to believe in a 'god' anon, religion is about finding a purpose in your life
>>27033731
i never once claimed i know what happens after death
>>27031765
>claims the gnostic high ground
>Lives in a universe clearly originating from and operating by blind natural forces
>dismisses the most probable eventuality with a meme
Youre not agnostic about post mortem experience, youre just intellectually dishonest.
>>27033601
This is assuming you remain whole and become another human, and assuming you are reincarnated instantly upon death.
>>27033788
You're preaching to the choir. Me and God are alright. I just hope that I can keep it together long enough to live a fulfilled life.
>>27033808
Yes but you claimed there was no god. Therefore you are full of shit. Also you are backtracking. Also suck on my balls you cunt.
>>27033854
When you die, you will simply cease to exist as you know it. You will pass into the nothingness realm, kinda like how before you were born.
How does that make you feel anon?
Same thing that happened before you were born
Honestly if there is a God I doubt it cares about how human beings live their lives.
"Morals" just seem to be a code of socially acceptable behaviors which are healthy to a society, as far as I'm concerned humans are just another insignificant organism.
>>27033898
finally an intelligent poster, you agnostic as well?
>>27033912
Yes and I've been posting for this entire thread.
>>27033885
I mean I've tossed around that idea before too. It doesn't really make me feel anything. I'm ready to die. Whatever happens happens. That actually sounds kind of nice.
Again you are full of shit, claiming to know what happens after you die.
>>27033817
Not him but
>Posting anime and expecting your opinion to be taken seriously
>>27033928
>Posting a bird with an ebin meme face
What's your point?
>>27033898
And that is why you will never be happy.
>>27033946
How so?
Because I don't have delusions of self importance?
>>27033927
>Again you are full of shit
stop this psychological torment anon, don't abuse your anonymity
>>27033954
No, because your indifference towards your own kind means that you will likely never be able to develop truly healthy relationships and consequently never enjoy your life. But hey, prove me wrong. Just don't kill anyone.
>>27031368
I sure hope it's nothingness. I can't imagine myself living on the shitty life I have forever.
>>27033971
I will abuse whatever I want. Including your and my anonymity. If you weren't such a fucking cunt I wouldn't feel the need to shit on your face with my sweet, sweet words of truth.
>>27033973
>because your indifference towards your own kind means that you will likely never be able to develop truly healthy relationships and consequently never enjoy your life.
A valid point, but I am a truth seeker first and foremost.
>>27031495
This isn't fair. Why does this world have to work in this way? Why were most living things created to have a male and female counterpart? Why must I have to constantly become erect to the point where I am so stiff that I have to relieve myself?
Why were women created in such a strange way? They on average have larger breasts and buttocks in proportion to their size than many other animals do. It's like humans were created to be slaves to the sex. Why people don't realize that largely we are all addicted to this one way or another.
>>27034062
Sex is an extension of survival instinct, since our bodies wear out we need to replicate them in order to survive.
Sexual selection is literally a matter of life and death, the ultimate competition.
>>27034062
They do. Most humans are incredibly animistic/Animalistic?. They do what feels good and what they were programmed to do. i.e. fuck.
>>27034062
>It's like humans were created to be slaves to the sex
Yeah, just like every other species on the planet. We aren't special.
>>27033938
I think it was meant to mock.
Maybe in contrast to how he feels about the effeminate nature of using animu reactions.
Although this belief in the first place is out of place given the purpose of this site in the first place.
Though it isn't an uncommon reservation, some people are put off by unnecessary andy-maes, despite the site's setting, some just come for their own reasons even if they are appropriating the space without respecting the original culture.
Terrible chain of results, actually.
>>27034088
>>27034089
>>27034105
Yeah but can't this dimension have been created in another way? Or do you guys not believe in this stuff? I do so I'm just saying.
Who, what programmed humans in this way? God?
>>27031368
A giant Snake will wrap around your carcass in your grave, and possible other shit you're not prepared for.
That's as far as I know.
>>27031368
Nobody knows. Personally I'm fine with eernal oblivion.
>>27034163
Nobody really programmed humans this way. It's just natural selection.
>>27034163
Maybe there is another dimension where it is different. It's just the way it is, fuck it. Who knows man, just roll with it. Get your dick wet, eat good food, drink good wine. Then die. It's all good.
>>27034163
Anything without the will to propogate isn't around for very long you fucking retard.
>>27034193
So you are atheist then?
I don't believe in that stuff. Darwin was a fraud.
>>27034203
>>27034204
This is bullshit though. Wanting to be slave to the sex. So many people just don't even give it a second thought. People can be so rational but then suddenly get a sex crazed lust.
I hate when I'm walking thinking I am finally enlightened and then a cutie walks by if I'm in supermarket and she got the nicest ass. I can't help but look and feel good thinking about it later. It's like slaving to the sex man. You feel me?
>>27031368
>multiverse exists
>billions of them
>respawn in a new universe
You've done this many times already.
>>27034206
In what sense was he a fraud?
>>27034240
Proof?
Fjjsjsk
>>27034236
Well that's the way it is, so you might as well get used to it. It's not going to do any good to overthink it. I mean don't let anyone steamroll you for the poosay obviously but don't overthink it either. We are animals. We fuck. That's just the way it is bruh bruh
I've been overthinking things too and it doesn't do me any good. It's about time I just shut the fuck up and stick my dick in that girl from my math class because I know she wants it
>>27033898
If thats youre notion of God, whats the point in asserting it? Seriously, Deists and Agnostics might as well not say anything because they either simply reiterate the premise of the discussion "we dont know!" Or they offer a dead end unfalsifiable and essentially useless solution. Its like youre saying "yes, and.." but thats exactly where occams razor needs to be applied. Just cut off the "and".
>>27034236
Are you mentally challenged? What part of the urge to procreate being necessary for an organism don't you understand?
>>27034242
Supposedly a huge plagiarist for one.
Might post some links might not. Losing interest in thread and want to fap so not trying to be a jackass here. I'll quote you if I'm back in a bit.
Nothing. I'm totally fine with that. i lol at religionfags who need their "heaven" idea.
>>27034242
Cuz he was a fucking fag that liked bird's beaks up his dickhole
>>27034240
I think the same rebuttal to time travel to the past can be applied here. If it is possible, or thats what happens, where are these travellers? Why havent we known about this until the dawn of our understanding of particle physics?
>>27034291
I get you but the problem is I feel I should be above this stuff already. Monks have a lot of self discipline for example. Hope anons trying to understand where I am coming from.
>>27034297
Just let me vent itt gosh!
>>27034304
Well he and that other guy came to the same basic conclusion (I forget his name) the other guy supposedly came up with it first but darwin published first which is why we all know him as the father of evolution instead of the other guy.
Doesn't mean he was wrong. And to my knowledge they conducted independent research. >>27034304
>>27034345
I know what you mean. I used to just go around and be a 'normal' person but after lots of psychedelics and other life experiences, I find it hard to relate to a lions share of humanity. That's why I come here.
That's also why I need to just suck it up and start swingin my dick around again.
>>27034304
That was nothing more than speculation, and has been debunked. And even if it were true, it wouldn't discredit evolution at all, just Darwin. The theory itself is totally concrete.
>>27034348
Alfred Wallace.
It feels like a huge fat shot of morphine with a rush that never ends and you never have to withdraw. You will float around through a boundless cosmic womb. You can summon any simulation you can think up to keep yourself occupied. Your oneitis will be floating right next to you and she's your wife and you can do anything you desire to her.
>>27034062
Technically "most" living things reproduce asexually. Complex organisms are a tiny minority of living things.
>>27034295
What makes inherent human importance so essential to the discussion?
>>27034386
FUCK YOU R9K, I will say what I want!
Danke
>>27034242
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10859281/Did-Charles-Darwin-borrow-the-theory-of-natural-selection.html
Just one source but there is plenty out there if you look.
>>27034334
Maybe time travel is possible but it is done by entities much more powerful than us and we haven't encountered/perceived them.
>>27034400
Yeah that would be dope to just shove a flower pedal up my ass and shit out bumblebees but the world is not your own personal oyster pot, my friend.
>>27034405
It doesnt. Im saying you cant have a productive discussion with Deism or Agnosticism and they certianly dont add anything to this one specifically.
>>27034422
Thanks for the laugh but I have no clue how my statement of fact could possibly have prompted that response.
>>27034411
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-8312.2011.01808.x/abstract
>>27034445
It's the way she goes
>>27034423
But the comment you were replying to was just asserting that human's probably aren't any more special than anything else in the universe.
And I don't see how they are any less productive than discussing other more dogmatic religious views, discussing them is essentially the same, "Maybe Christian dogma is right" "Maybe Buddhism is true" etc.
It's all just speculation and saying we don't know.
>>27034420
Thats an unneccesary assumption and its unfalsifiable. The universe is a weird enough place without time travling intangible unicorns.
>>27034486
Ywes of course we dont know thats why we're talking about it! It literally goes without saying. Its a completely inconsequental position.
>>27034500
Well I could get a good look at a T-Bone by sticking my head up a bulls ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.
>>27034521
>>27034486
You're both retarded. Argument diffused.
>>27034522
The non sequiters are plentiful in this thread.
>>27033015
Learn to wear a shirt degenerate.
Remember what it was like before you were born? It's very much like that.
>>27034206
>I dont believe in that stuff
Its not a question of belief. You might as be rejecting gravity as force. We know more about the origin of life and understand the mechanism behind it than we do gravity but I dont see your unyielding scepticism being applied there.
>>27032653
This is correct. It'll get ignored though because no one can shitposting in response to it.
>>27034698
It's late as fuck and I'm in my own residence. Fuck off.
You're just mad you weigh twice as much as I do, degenerate.
>>27034698
>muh degeneracy
What happened to this site holy shit.
>>27032686
Faggot.
Theres your you.
>>27031957
>the christian god is the only one
How convenient for you. I'm sure the billions of other people on the planet who believe in other religions think the same think of theirs. You aren't special.
>>27032575
A "soul" is simply a metaphor for what you call "myself" and the recognition of agency in living things. The self and agency are simply illusions that arise from blind chemical interactions. There no substance behind it, but its very easy to give into the illusion especially for early mankind.
Tl;dr
The reason most religions incorporate the notion of souls is due to the illusion of agency, not because there are actually souls.
>>27031872
My impression of the current thinking is that the question "what caused the big bang" is the wrong question to ask. Causation as we know it may not have existed "before" the big bang since literally everything didnt exist "prior" to it, including time hence the qoutation marks.
>>27031703
Man people really take that past time way too seriously. Or, they vehemently believe every word of it as if its the literal word of God. In which case their actions make sense, but are still despicable.
>>27034088
Youre thinking about it on a macro scale when all you really need to explain reproduction is genes. Its the genes that need to survive and copy themselves. I tend to believe that every creature is basically a gene suit competing with other gene suits for survival and propogation. Your body is a mech and your genes are the pilot.
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>>27035115
>tfw when youre the only one in the thread posting
>tfw no discussion
probably nothing, I hope I'll go right down to hell at least I won't bore anymore and I'll finally face my demons
The same as before you were born.
>>27031368
You ask: "What happenes to you after you die."
However, I belive such an astoundinly simple question should be phrased thusly:
"What becomes of your soul after your mind and body cease?"
Now i know that you may merely be asking yourself more questions at this point, but Im going to have to ask that you leave him behind. Leave You behind. Not yourself, not your I nor any of your mes. Because You are mealy he that is yourself currently, and not an I placed among serveral us. When the part of you that calls itself "myself" is no longer I, only then will My You call himself someone else.
She still wouldn't care.
>>27031850
most people also assumed the earth was flat at one time too faggot
what happens before you're born?
>>27032575
everyone knows our body rots into nothing when we die, the only way an afterlife would exist is if some ghostly version of you went to it.
You've spent all of eternity dead and only a few years alive. You just go back to that state. However that state passes in 0 seconds from your perspective since you don't feel anything. It'll be like falling asleep. The question is where do you next wake up. You woke up once from being dead by being born. Therefore it'll happen again for sure since time never ends. Question is, what will you wake up to? You woke up to this world once. Maybe you do it again. Could be you've lived several lives already but you don't keep memories when you die.
>>27031368
You face judgment
>>27031368
You will go to other souls and you will wait eternity to be born again. You can see the truth when you meditate a lot.
God is a piece of shit. If I could press a button to kill god, then I would love to. I hate you, God. Please kill me.
>>27031368
The suffering finally ends.
