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The voting day is coming brobots. Who else will bring us out
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The voting day is coming brobots. Who else will bring us out of neetdom?!
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>Voting for Trump if you're a NEET
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I'm not a NEET. I'm voting Trump and nobody can stop me. Make america great again and remove the weak degenerates so we don't end up like SWEDEN YES
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>>26857374
>not feeling the Bern
Pleb.
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Why do right-wingers believe "political correctness" is some horrible bogeyman? Are they really that scared of people disagreeing with them? They also say that people disagreeing with them is somehow anti free speech. They are entitled and want to force everybody to accept their opinions without criticism.
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>>26857466
Have you ever read 1984?
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>>26857559
Please don't try to base an argument on a storybook.
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>>26857586
Not him but you're retarded if you can't see why he told you to read 1984. Hint: Look up Newspeak.
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>>26857416
I'm neet and I'm voting trump because I care about the country
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>>26857597
I don't see how that applies to people choosing not to agree with you Anon.
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>>26857466
Your point is backwards. People disagree with political correctness BECAUSE it stifles free speech
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>>26857559
1984 was written by a democratic socialist, just like Bernie Sanders.
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>>26857617
Newspeak is an example of policing speech in order to police thought.
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>>26857635
How does people choosing not to agree with you stifle free speech?
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>>26857641
He was British. Trying to conflate them is pointless, the movements are pretty different.
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>>26857642
Yes but if people have a different opinion to you on what words should be used that doesn't mean that they're actually policing speech.
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>>26857617
Then you aren't thinking things through very much.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/08/19/liberal-doublespeak-words-that-dont-mean-what-they-say-139692
Here's a decent article on the subjet, though the most obvious term cultural-marxists like to use is "progressive".
"Progress" is a positive word. It reinforces the idea that leftist values are "the way forward", "the future" and that they're the correct choice. That also means people who don't agree are seen as being "regressive", wanting to go "backwards", "ruining" all the "progress" that has been made.
If you aren't disgusted by that then please just don't vote.
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>>26857374

Voting Bernie in the primary, then probably Clinton in the general election. Lesser of two evils and all that.
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>>26857658
>different opinion
look at the actual violent censorship happening in Germany
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>>26857669
It's hilarious that you think the term "cultural marxist" is any different. Everybody tries to persuade others to believe what they do, this is something that will happen as long as free speech exists.
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>>26857679
Is it violent censorship of nazism? I don't agree with that at all, but can't you see why people might hold an attitude like that towards and ideology that started a war that killed 70 million people? How does this apply to regular political discourse anyway?
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>>26857559

Sure. It's not really relevant because you can still express whatever racist, sexist, etc, opinions you have without getting jailed. You just can't do it without getting serious shit from everyone around you because the government also doesn't restrict other people from expressing their opinions on your opinions.

That type of person just wants to believe that it's an evil conspiracy somewhere that keeps them from saying what they think, rather than it being the knowledge that nobody agrees with them and that they might be hated for being honest.

To which I'd say, be honest anyway, maybe someone will care enough about you to explain intricately why you're wrong and you can change.
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>>26857697
>It's hilarious that you think the term "cultural marxist" is any different.
What double meaning does "cultural marxist" have? It literally just means Marxism through culture.

>Everybody tries to persuade others to believe what they do, this is something that will happen as long as free speech exists.
There's a difference between persuasion and suggestion. They aren't trying to convince you that they are correct, they are giving you passive aggressive hints that you are wrong if you don't agree. Again, look at the term "progressive". It is designed to make you think one way by exploiting your shame.
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>>26857678
>Hillary
>ever the lesser evil
How does anyone even come up with that?
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>>26857669
>>26857697

That is like a pro-choice/pro-life kind of thing, really basic rhetoric.

I think a lot of conservatives are just babies who don't want to learn the game. William F Buckleys are pretty rare.
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>>26857762
>What double meaning does "cultural marxist" have? It literally just means Marxism through culture.
What double meaning does progressivism have? It's just used as a counter to conservatism.
>Again, look at the term "progressive". It is designed to make you think one way by exploiting your shame.
All it is is people that hold a certain ideology using language to advocate it. Like I said, it's a counter to conservatism and everybody tries to persuade like this. Ever heard the term "race realist"?
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>>26857715
>I don't want my gf to be raped by immigrants like the literally 600+ women in Cologne
>omg ur a nazzzi!! Immigrants don't rape! This is a problem of PATRIARCHY in the west and you're to blame for it with your rape culture!!
You are a terrible human being and the harsher the backlash to your societal manipulation, the better.
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>>26857679
I live in Germany and here's no kind of censorship going on, at least I don't notice it. Can you give me examples?
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>>26857648
Political correctness is making certain topics or phrases taboo. This is not just disagreeing with something, it is discouraging it from being said.

By all means, disagree with a point I want to make and argue against it. Don't prevent the point from ever being spoken though.
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don't you find the hypocrisy surrounding Trump simply amazing?

we voted in an inexperienced clown on a sensational whim once in Obama, why not do it again with Trump???
dindus and beaners voted in Obama just because he is brown, do you not get that?

>Trump is a joke
well yeah... it is a joke, from the get go, for the past 20 years it has been all one bad joke..
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>>26857778

Her foreign policy isn't a mess, she doesn't seem to be psychologically unstable, she isn't planning messy large-scale deportations, she's solidly mainstream when it comes to social issues....she's a boring, center-left democrat, and she'll basically continue the Obama administration's policies with a slightly more coherent foreign policy. I'll take that over "make Mexico pay for a wall, also global warming is a Chinese conspiracy" any day.
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>>26857810
For one your youtube gets raped by GEMA.
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>>26857762
Because it invokes Marx as a boogeyman in order to dismiss an idea by association instead of on its merits or demerits

>exploiting your shame
Ah, so you are ashamed? :^)
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>>26857807
You'll have a hard time finding people who want anybody to be raped. It's agreed upon that rape is bad, right-wingers just believe that the way to solve the problem is to impede on people's right to roam, which is basically just putting an infected bandage on a missing limb.
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>>26857816

Obama was a Senator with decades of experience studying Constitutional law. Trump is a businessman with no legal or political experience other than a failed presidential campaign back in 2000.
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>>26857811
So it's basically just right-wingers scared to get their feelings hurt? How does this not apply to any opinion held by any group of people?
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>>26857762

You're basically whining that the other side has put a positive spin to the name for their movement, while you sit there throwing a negative spin on the same movement by using an evil-sounding name. It is the exact same thing.
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>>26857840
he still got voted in because he is brown.
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>>26857816
Did you ever notice that he was the democratic nominee and minorities tend to vote D? Or that Clinton has more support from blacks now than Obama did?
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>>26857466
See
>>26857811
fucking tumblrtards
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>>26857863
How is this not shaming me for having a belief?
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>>26857859
that makes it worse.
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>>26857466
you got it backwards faggot
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>>26857792
>What double meaning does progressivism have? It's just used as a counter to conservatism.
I just explainted it to you here >>26857669

>All it is is people that hold a certain ideology using language to advocate it.
You realize you're saying it's okay to be using intentionally deceptive language, right?


>Like I said, it's a counter to conservatism and everybody tries to persuade like this.
And why do you think they choose to use the word "Progress"? It isn't that hard.

>Ever heard the term "race realist"?
Congratulations, you're starting to get it. But remember, "Race Realist" is a term used by fringe groups that mostly stick to the Internet. "Progressive" is constantly by most democrat politicians and even many republicans. Do you see the problem here?
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>>26857870
Shameful beliefs deserve to be shamed

Nobody is preventing you from expressing the belief

Ya dingus
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>>26857822
You're right but don't waste your time arguing about it. Donald Trump is a meme; literally no one here is supporting him on a serious level. Believe me. There are a few people who would choose him over Hillary, no doubt about that, but only because they really hate Hillary or they give a fuck about politics and think he's funny, but NOT because they consider Trump as a good politician or even a sane human being.
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>>26857811

The only thing preventing you is fear. You won't get sent to prison or anything for saying some politically incorrect thing, but you will be hated, and that alone is enough to deter so many.

Again, blaming "political correctness," that nebulous entity, is just a way of avoiding the knowledge that its their own understandable and natural human weakness that keeps them from speaking.
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>>26857885
>You realize you're saying it's okay to be using intentionally deceptive language, right?
I'm fine with it because I believe in free speech.
>And why do you think they choose to use the word "Progress"? It isn't that hard.
Why do you think libertarians call themselves libertarians? Conservatism implies that there's something to conserve.
>Congratulations, you're starting to get it. But remember, "Race Realist" is a term used by fringe groups that mostly stick to the Internet. "Progressive" is constantly by most democrat politicians and even many republicans. Do you see the problem here?
So basically what you're saying is that people have to accept your beliefs so you don't get your feelings hurt?
>Nobody is preventing you from expressing the belief
It's the same with "SJWs" though.
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>>26857904

As far as I can tell none of the rest of the cadre of Red candidates is much better though.
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>>26857918
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>>26857374
>Ben Garrison
>going strong, Zyklon Ben

>2016
>pretends that he doesn't know what KKK is

>>26857466
>Why do right-wingers believe "political correctness" is some horrible bogeyman? Are they really that scared of people disagreeing with them? They also say that people disagreeing with them is somehow anti free speech. They are entitled and want to force everybody to accept their opinions without criticism.
Because they are lying about history.

In the 70s you could crack jokes about niggers, whores, latinos, fags, young boys being raped by fags, young girls that you'd like to fuck, bums and junkies.

As long as there was no women around. So much for the un-PC back in the days.
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>>26857858
>he still got voted in because he is brown.

That was why black people voted for him, no doubt about it. But moderate Democrats voted for him because we believed that he could rehabilitate America's image abroad and improve the economy.

Far left Democrats voted for him because they though he would be Black FDR/Jesus/Carter/[insert American leftist hero here] all rolled into one, turn the country into a giant multicultural version of Sweden, give everyone free healthcare, and take all the money away from rich people. That didn't happen, so now they're all angry Sanders voters.
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>>26857926
Marco Rubio is preferable to any other mainstream candidate at this point
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lets do it family vote
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>>26857926

Cruz is arguably far worse, and Rubio just seems completely unprepared to even be a presidential candidate, let alone the President.
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>>26857918
i can smell the purple hair dye from here.
>It's the same with "SJWs" though
wrong. Sjws arent pro free speach
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>>26857374

i think americas problem is that you guys seem to mix up politics with entertainment.

But hey, what do i know.
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>>26857963
Where do you find them saying that they want to ban right wing beliefs?
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>>26857904
>believe me

O-ho! That's a good one my intellectually dishonest friend
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>>26857466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI
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>>26857963

Don't confuse tumblr/college SJWs with mainstream left-wing opinion, the nutcases who ban white people and conservatives from their "safe spaces" are as representative of the American left as /pol/ is of the American right.
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>>26857980
Politics here is a giant joke. Everyone lies to get elected and then they do nothing their entire term.
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>>26857934

I think a lot of us are sick of voting for moderates wearing blue and want to vote in an actual liberal for a change.

Obama was real sad though. All that hope and what'd he get us? A law requiring you to buy private health insurance.
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>>26857810
Look up the videos Sargon of Akkad did about Cologne. He did a really good job of exposing the way the German government tried to hide the NYE rapes. The 1984 levels of denial were off the charts in German media and the police and Cologne's government. Even feminist organizations blamed it on German men and denied that any problem exists even when the mayor of Cologne resorted to victim blaming and the police were suppressing the accounts of the women who were assaulted.
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>>26857918
>I'm fine with it because I believe in free speech.
It's not about free speech, it's about ethics.

>Why do you think libertarians call themselves libertarians?
Because their core principle is "liberty" That's not double speak.

>Conservatism implies that there's something to conserve.
"Conserve" is the root word. "Conservative" is a word with its own definition. Pic related.
Again however, it describes their core values. They want to have conservative policies and/or conservative social values. No doublespeak.

>So basically what you're saying is that people have to accept your beliefs so you don't get your feelings hurt?
No. That's literally what the cultural marxist double speak suggests to you.

>It's the same with "SJWs" though.
Correct. It's sarcastic and uses their own language against them. But like I said before, terms like "Progressive" are used commonly while "Social Justice Warrior" and "SJW" are used by fringe groups on the Internet. When was the last time you saw someone on Fox say "SJW"?
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>>26857831
>limiting the indiscriminate immigration that is killing social support networks and the economy
>impeding rights to "roam"
Stop trying to build the argument of people you disagree with into a strawman. Everyone has long since realized how disingenuous thus tactic is.
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>>26858036
That's because no rapes actually occurred on NYE in cologne but "sexual assaults" that were disconnected and spread through the city and surrounding areas. Criminal gangs used the celebrations to pickpocket and rob the many women who were either returning home drunk or out on the streets, this can be misconstrued as sexual assault by a very assumptive woman.

Right wing media ran a propaganda piece to exaggerate the situation and hooked whiteknights like you without much trouble.
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>>26858058
Forgot the picture
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>>26857466
Political Correctness will ruin the country. It's already ruining Europe.
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>>26858058
>It's not about free speech, it's about ethics.
Free speech isn't an issue of ethics?
>Because their core principle is "liberty" That's not double speak.
It's liberty how they define it. The first person to use the word was a communist.
>Conserve" is the root word. "Conservative" is a word with its own definition. Pic related.
>Again however, it describes their core values. They want to have conservative policies and/or conservative social values. No doublespeak.
Using the word implies that there's something worth conserving though.
>No. That's literally what the cultural marxist double speak suggests to you
buzzwords
>Correct. It's sarcastic and uses their own language against them. But like I said before, terms like "Progressive" are used commonly while "Social Justice Warrior" and "SJW" are used by fringe groups on the Internet. When was the last time you saw someone on Fox say "SJW"?
So what you're telling me is that you're scared of being shamed by a majority?
>>26858066
>Stop trying to build the argument of people you disagree with into a strawman. Everyone has long since realized how disingenuous thus tactic is.
How is restricting immigration not impeding on a person's right to roam?
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Why is it that white nationalist/supremacists are free to spread their propaganda and vitriol on this site, but if a jihadist or black panther were to do something similar there would by a unanimous effort to silence and report them?
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>>26858098
I'm neither of the posters you replied to, but this is some really shitty bait. I have no idea how people are falling for this.

>arguing semantics on the internet with 15 year olds
wew
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>>26857466
>any political incorrect opinions are banned on reddit and now twitter
>people get fired from their jobs for saying anything remotely resembling Political incorrectness' on the internet
>"its not censorship! Were just using our free speech against yours :P"
Political correctness is literally just censorship to avoid hurting
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>>26858133
Do you want private property or not?
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>>26857466
no, you faggots are the reason why Trump is winning you silenced everyone with a different opinion by calling them racist, nazi and any other liberal buzzword. Trump is going against to the liberal media narrative that's why americans love him he doesn't give a fuck about someone's special snowflake feelings.
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>>26858006
The problem is that even if you vote in an "actual liberal", he's constrained by the realities of the US government. He has to compromise with his own party to get anything done (a lot of "centrist" Democrats are Republicans in all but name), assuming that they control both houses of Congress. If they control one or none, then it's a million times harder, because any legislation he wants to get passes will never be better/worse than watered-down centrist laws at best.
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>>26858148
Trump is winning because right wingers got their feelings hurt?
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>>26858133
So you're a socialist/communist who thinks the owners of Twitter and reddit should be expropriated and their companies should be property of the society? Seems like you're the Marixst here
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>>26858158
No, he's winning because everyone got their feelings hurt. Look at his support in Massachusetts of all places.
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>>26858187
That's my point, his supporters are babies. They didn't have any opinions until the big bad libruls hurt their feelies.
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>>26858158
not even a comparison >>26858000
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>>26858067
Actually there are 3 alleged rapes. As in actual penis in vagina and the rest often involved women having their clothes torn off.
Although it's ridiculous that you imply what happened is acceptable and okay just because it was 'only' robberies.
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>>26858093

oh man, Eurasia is so bad ! people there dont even have food, do you believe that ?
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>>26858098
So you consider the right to roam to be the right to move from any country to any other at will? This has literally never been the case throughout history. There are pretty obvious reasons for why countries have borders.
And you seriously think a person who 'roamed' in this way isn't subject to local laws?
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>>26858158
Trump is winning because left wingers got their feelings hurt.
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>>26858241
I'm saying you would have found a way to point the finger at refugees regardless if they were present in cologne or not. The fact that they were present and that these "sexual assaults" occurred made them very easy scapegoats for the right. You, and many other whites on the internet, drown in right wing news pieces and propaganda, so you've probably never thought "What if the rapes/sexual assaults were committed by different people over a very large area?". Which is the most likely explanation, I think most of you had a picture in your mind that colognes town square was turned into a public orgy space.
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>>26858246
3.6 to 10 million mostly Muslim migrants expected to arrive in Germany alone by 2020. Then they start breeding and multiply and multiply. Sure Europe is ok now but in a few years it will be fucked. All because people don't wanna be RACSISST! and turn them away.
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>>26858296
Of the suspects who were brought in or caught on the scene in Cologne, not a single one was a German citizen. There were a couple non-muslims but the rest are confirmed to be Muslim immigrants.
You are trying to discredit me by saying that I'm pointing fingers because I'm racist. In reality I'm pointing fingers because it's objective, proven fact. You are literally in denial of reality in your desperate bid to be progressive.
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>>26858314
>3.6 to 10 million mostly Muslim migrants expected to arrive in Germany alone by 2020

Source? Because that's about 12% of the current German population.
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>>26858272
Since my candidate has no chance of winning the nomination, I might vote Trump in the general elections just to pissed SJW's off.
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>>26858354
Google it and there are like hundreds of results. I dunno if you have been paying attention but Germany opened its borders and all the Muslims are flocking into it. There have already been massive numbers of rape and gangrape everywhere, just look at what happened with the Cologne New Year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/refugee-crisis-germany-expects-three-million-migrants-arrive-by-2020-1545905

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/647590/Germany-migrant-crisis-parliament-laws-Chancellor-Angela-Merkel-open-door-policy

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6957394/4-million-refugees-could-cross-German-borders-by-2020.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LltnLzLXs7U

The media is disgusting.
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>>26858403
It's funny because Ukrainian refugees are constantly being turned away since Slavs are too white to be racist against. It's racist to deny entry to an uneducated brown person who has no plans on working any time soon but an educated European Slav? Lolnah they are dicks in DOTA so they can go back to being wrecked by pro-Russian rebels.
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>tfw eurotrash
>tfw can't wait to see Trump elected, neets getting their autismbux taken away from them
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>>26858343
It's not objective fact. Never labelled you a racist either, think you're trying to default the argument into your own court.

"None of the suspects were asylum seekers and prosecutors have said they do not believe the incident is connected to the wave of attacks against women in Cologne and other German cities over the New Year."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3390042/The-fightback-begins-German-vigilante-group-vows-protect-women-migrant-attackers-three-Syrians-arrested-gang-raping-two-teenage-girls.html?ito=social-facebook

This is from a right wing sensationalist source so it SHOULDN'T affirm the left about their suspicions that the rapists weren't all refugees.

The attacks were organized and planned from established gangs operating in germany. "Alleged" doesn't mean confirmed, it's ironic that a board dedicated to not believing the hysterical cries of women when they scream "Rape!" suddenly believe them without hesitation when it's a supposed enemy tribe at the doorstep.
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>>26858148
seriously this.
>Trump says politically incorrect stuff
>media will flock to him saying he's campaign is over due to x
>Trump will stand his ground
>?
>Trump's polls will surge
>WIN
desu without this PC stuff a man like Trump wouldn't stand a chance.
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>>26858714
Trump isn't going to win, you severely overestimate how large your echobox on the internet is.
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>>26857816
This.

Trump is actually probably the most experienced person to run in terms of pure leadership in decades though.

The main reason I'm voting Trump is because how utterly outraged both establishment parties and the media are at him. That's all i need to know to understand he's not bought and paid for like every single other politician
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>>26858743
>Trump isn't going to win
They've been saying that since his announcement of presidency.
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>>26858977
Hillary will win. Sorry to disappoint you.
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>>26858993
>Trump lost to Iowa
>TRUMP IS STUMPED IT'S OVER
>wins the next states

It's too early to decide faggot
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>>26857608
>being a NEET and caring about your county
Doesn't work like that
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>>26858743
Trump actually wins unlike bernie
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Yeezz, so glad I don't live in that second world country... Have fun with your oligarchy.
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>>26859031
HAHAHA I remember when Trump fucked up in Iowa my kikebook and twitter are celebrating his defeat saying it's over for him, now I fucking love their tears. If anyone has an echo chamber it's them.
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>>26857641
1984 was a "reference" to leftist regime in republican Spain.
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>>26857559
Jesus, you "Orwellian nightmare" are worse than those who invoke Godwins Law.
"CCTV cameras, b-but that's in 1984, and therefore wrong!" "Rewarding those who contribute to society more? But that's like the pigs in Animal farm! Y-you're a fuckking commie!"
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>>26857374
>Jeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzUc4ibIziw
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>>26859900
1984 was a "reference" to Stalinism and how it ruins everything. Orwell was a huge fan of the short-lived decentralized socialist state in Catalonia that got fucked over by Stalinists (and then conquered by fascists).
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>>26859900
It was, like many of Orwell's works, about totalitarianism and Stalinism. If you want to read about his impressions of Republican Spain, read his book about the Spanish civil war.
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