Every girl can get a boyfriend, but not all males can get a girlfriend
let me explain
if you are a desperate beta loser like most people here on 4chan, almost any girl would be ok for you, right? So if a girl asked you on a date you would accept without thinking twice.
girls instead tend to be picky and usually prefer the normie alpha partying shit, so if you are a loser they will decline immediatly.
>>25570988
And it's all guys fault for being thirsty.
Women make sure the supply of willing women is low by chosing not to date losers and therefore increasing their value.
>>25570988
Everyone knows those losers aren't real people. When the fuck will Chad notice me? I'm so lonely.
>So if a girl asked you on a date you would accept without thinking twice.
Actually a girl did ask me out on a date last summer. I sperged out and turned her down, mostly because I didn't think she was very attractive but also partially because I got nervous
>>25571174
Desperate loser here
Yes we're real people
>>25570988
>2016
>not having standards
>you marry the first girl you fuck
>she hates your guts
>>25571089
No, its women exploiting male needs, don't play dumb with me roastie. Even gay men feel the need to protect women
Many of the so called losers are not always bad people, right?
I am sure most of you are usually nice people, maybe we get called a loser just because we are shy or don't go to parties.
>>25571203
Hard is better than indifference. You would know this if you had no choices but you can also be chads 100 female servant
>>25571189
Gtfo Chad, go stretch that roastie and try not to vomit while you are at it
>>25571312
I'd want to believe that, but I also acknowledge I'm fucked up in the head. Even shy people have social lives.
>>25571364
I did this in highschool, but the girl was mentally ill. It was a time in my life when I was afraid of death.
>>25571368
> Even shy people have social lives.
I don't
>>25571401
Not all, but shy people with good personalities tend to have some social life. There are many fairly shy normies.
To be honest it seems that i get called a loser not only because i don't like parties and raves and such things, but also because my "moral standards are too high"
i don't really know what that means
there are other factors as well, such as there being pretty much no reason for a female to have a male in today's world, and there being a lot more males than females in our age group
>>25571479
>and there being a lot more males than females in our age group
That depends from country to country, i presume
>>25571457
I've got a good personality, I used to joke around with friends a few years ago. We just separated when they found other people and I just don't have a social life any more.
I don't have a social life because talking to people is too tiring. I'm not organized enough to keep track of friendships and I don't have the confidence to go out anymore.
>>25571505
pretty much all countries, but especially bad in the middle east/asia,
>>25571564
maybe i'm saying something really stupid, but,
This map does not say anything about the age group though
>>25571564
>dat china and india
>chinese and indians immigrating en masse
>>25571089
are you retarded?
>guys are responsible for most murders
>women murder very few people collectively
>its womens fault for not killing people
Why should men be more picky? Why cant women just be less picky? Less stress for everyone
>>25571203
>having standards
do you know where you are? Fuck you
>>25571623
Damn, we could create a city larger than toronto of only men
>>25570988
>if you are a desperate beta loser like most people here on 4chan
I'm not like that.
I could get laid easily if I want, already got several girls hitting on me.
I just want to find a pure girl, to give her my virginity and have a lot of children and living happily ever after.
>>25571630
Women are biologically very picky because of how badly childbearing wreaks havoc on their bodies which could very well kill them if it weren't for modern medicine. You have to literally have genes to die for.
>>25571716
Good. Your decision is wise. Not many people have this kind of mentality anymore, unfortunately
>>25571730
either way you would reach the same point
>men raise their standards
>unattractive women have less options
>start aiming for guys in their own league instead of the chad, the guys that otherwise wouldn't reproduce
or
>women lower their standards
>start aiming for guys in their own league instead of the chad, the guys that otherwise wouldn't reproduce
also, if you believe its alright for women to have high standards simply because its biology, thats the naturalistic fallacy
or is this your way of shifting blame?
>>25571852
Yes, it is a shame, unfortunately.
But I prefer be alone all my life than get with a betrayer who will commit adultery and take all money after divorcing.
But I still didn't completely lost hope, there's still a faint light.
>>25571854
Just saying it's as natural as wanting to eat food when you're hungry or breathing air. If women are happier alone than with a subpar male, nothing can be done. If they force a relationship upon themselves it would be a bad experience for the man and the woman.
This topic really is complicated, but what i think is this:
>losers are classified this way because they usually don't follow trends or various behaviours
>in this day and age, moral standards seem to have become lower and less strict (even 15 year olds go to raves)
>you become a loser if you don't follow these certains behaviours
>most of the girls will avoid you because of this
>the normie or chad or whatever obtains them instead
So if you have high moral standards and you are "pure" you become a loser basically
of course it's not always like this obviously
>>25571960
except they are not alone, the whole 'women need good men because of childbirth' shit doesnt fly now that we have contraceptives.
>>25571730
>Women are biologically very picky because of how badly childbearing wreaks havoc on their bodies which could very well kill them if it weren't for modern medicine. You have to literally have genes to die for.
Look at all this shit you just made up, aren't you ashamed of yourself?
>>25572052
This is true, but primally your brain doesn't know about contraceptives. It thinks penis in vagina = carry his offspring for 9 months. Sure she can date a super autismo while cringing the whole time, but still, bad experience for both.
>>25572062
Made up? Think of it in the same way as you want a young tight cutie, not a 50 year old lady.
>>25572417
So why do women want men their own age instead of only men in their prime?
>>25572585
Because his ability to provide is also a factor and in this world it's difficult to have a man who is both in his prime and able to provide. The younger man is healthier and will give better offspring, while the older man has shelter and resources. At the end of the day she is simply more likely to mingle with men her own age.
>>25572647
>At the end of the day she is simply more likely to mingle with men her own age.
So are dudes, obviously doesn't change their preferences.
>while the older man has shelter and resources
So why doesn't it hold steady at most healthy and most stable like men hold steady at young and beautiful?
I'm in a real conundrum, people. A girl I used to orbit in high school did porn for a few years.
>Got implants
>Started doing scenes and she was amazed by how much money she quickly took in
>Caught genital herpes quickly
>Plagued by STDs
>Had multiple pregnancies and abortions due to missed/failed birth control
>Got into drugs
>Parents and family basically disowned her once they found out what she was doing
>Got out over two years ago
>Got back into contact with her
>She's basically a fembot now since in real life almost no guy wants anything to do with a porn star, even an ex-one
>I'm still a virgin at 25 and she's slept with over 100+ men
>We're friends but I've been keeping my distance, it's like she's orbiting me now
>Her story has really cut me down on porn because when you really think about it, most of the girls probably do through the same shit as she did
>I could probably make a move at any time and sleep with her but it wouldn't feel right + I'd probably get herpes
>Feel like this may be my only chance to be with a girl ever
>But then I remember this is much worse than even doing something like dating a single mother, when there's stuff like this out there: http://www.xvideos.com/video1607011/busty_beautiful_brunette_babe_enjoy_group_sex
>Yes that's really her
So I really don't know what to do. My dick is screaming GO GO GO but the rest of me is NO NO NO. It's either lower my standards or risk being alone forever.
>>25572696
If given the opportunity, any women of any age would want a handsome young man who can also provide. It's just that they're rare as unicorns. Males have much more simple and common desires (she just has to be young and preferably not deformed).
>>25572696
dudes just want someone whose hot
girls want that and other shit as well
>>25572771
So why do they lie to researchers?
>>25572771
>tfw broke as fuck when you are young and want to explore the world
>tfw rich when you are too old to enjoy it and your idea of a great time is sitting on the couch with a beer
>>25572766
Oculus rift soon :^}
>>25572851
Interesting. Men like women who are 20-24 while women preference seems to hover at 30-40. Must be the sweet spot of not being too old and not being too poor.
>>25572766
Fuck her. Cuddle with her afterwards and go for coffee. Help her heal.
>>25572939
That's a HUUGE sweet spot compared to men, men are confined to a strict 4 year range, women have preferences for a 23 year range.
>>25572851
Not really sure about the source of your graph (if any) but this page is pretty interesting if you're into these kinds of things.
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2015/07/03/ok-cupid-data-on-sex-desirability-and-age/
>>25572851
maybe the picture of the 20 year old example they showed the men was smokin hot and the rest were shitskins
>>25573055
I think it's from the study referenced here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/dating-age-study-_n_5903804.html
>>25573164
idk, but honestly I can't ever see myself thinking 20 year old chicks aren't hot.
>>25570988
well not all people would take without thinking wtf , no matter how desperate i am i would never date a nigger
>>25572967
Just never through I'd be in this situation really.
Here's someone that, during high school, was the pure definition of a girl that used people with her looks. Then she went out into the real world and got used right back in return and really has nobody.
As far as I know she hasn't had sex since she stopped doing porn, and more than once in the past year she's tried to come onto me. And once I almost let her, we were stripped down to our underwear in her bedroom and kissing, but I pulled back and said that I "didn't want to be like those other guys".
She got mad and wouldn't speak to me for a few days, but understood.
I don't know where this will go, if anywhere, but I'm going to go over to her place tomorrow night and whatever happens, happens.
>>25573055
>the ultra asspained first comment from that study
Is it really that hard to understand that men value health and beauty? Throw all your evolution and psychology books out the window and just think about basic biology and common sense.
>testosterone is the primary component of your sex drive in both men and women
>men have far more test and are far hornier
>young women are prettier than older women and more sexually exciting
Why would men ever have similar age preferences to women?
>>25572766
>It's either lower my standards or risk being alone forever.
No chance of increasing your prospects? Besides the sex she has a history of disease and drugs, I think there's a chance you'll prefer loneliness after her company.
>>25570988
>almost any girl would be ok for you, right?
robots have proved this to not be true for the majority of them. they mostly want not fat virgins fyi.
>>25572766
Dont do it
She can still leave you
and now you are left with still being a robot + delicious herpes
Dont you fucking dare
This thread is basically the reason why I have a fetish for bullying clingy guys who desperately want to fuck me.
>almost any girl would be ok for you, right?
>mfw fags keep acting like everyone doesn't have standards
>>25572766
Women like her should be shot tbqh
>>25573771
I don't know what to say, I wouldn't but I understand the temptation.
You can still catch herpes when it isn't flared up, if you end up back where you started + an STD I guarantee you'll feel way worse.
Might as well find a clean hooker.
>>25573513
>not fat
>virgins
these are pretty reasonable requirements, really. I've known several girls who are my age (23) and still virgins. You just won't find them outside their houses/apartments and so they're tough to find.
>>25573961
>reasonable requirements
not really any more mate. the crossover between those two groups dwindles exponentially past age ~17
>>25574052
>the crossover between those two groups dwindles exponentially past age ~17
Did you miss the chart where literally all men desire women in the 20-24 range? It's not like anyone is going gung ho after women 25 years or older.
>>25574180
are you trying to reinforce my point? the amount of not fat virgin women that are 20-24 is an even smaller population. ie its not the best idea for those two things to be your two dealbreakers if you actually ever want to find someone.
>>25574389
>the amount of not fat virgin women that are 20-24 is an even smaller population
No I'm saying 17-24 compared to 25 and higher has the highest instance of virgins that you can legally fuck and that most will find attractive, it's literally the courtship age. If you're older and set up even modestly your chances will be better than the guys her age.
http://www.livescience.com/13072-sex-stats-virgins-rise.html
>More and more young people are abstaining. No less than 27 percent of 15- to 24-year-old men have never had any form of sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) with another person, up from 22 percent in 2002. Meanwhile, 29 percent of females in that age bracket have never had sex, also up from 22 percent at the time of the last study.
And the kicker:
>Eventually, though, they'll take the plunge: The survey found that almost everyone between the ages of 25 and 44 has had sex. About 98 percent of females and 97 percent of males in that range have had vaginal intercourse, 89 percent of females and 90 percent of men have had oral sex with an opposite-sex partner, and 36 percent of females and 44 percent of males have had anal sex with an opposite-sex partner.
17-24 is your best shot.
>>25571089
that's just 100% retarded.
Male value is very low because all women chose to stick to only best males and males being logical and actually sensible are ok with most women because of two things: Men can actually like a person's personality and not just their looks and can rate a person without taking in account things these people can't control and secondly, men are actually capable of Love, unlike females.
>>25574644
dude, its their best shot, but it's really unlikely to get those two things simultaneously. lets assume the dist. of virgins over that group is even and not skewed toward the younger teenswhich it clearly would be
so we have approx a 35% obesity rate in the states so that knocks down the amount to non fat virgins to ~20% of the 20-24 year old pop. does that sound like good odds to you friend? clearly this is not adjusted for attractiveness vs virginity but not a good number if those two things are your go to deal breakers.
>>25572939
The possible answers were low-capped at 20. Look at that fucking wall. Men's true preference is lower.
>>25572851
Seems the 80-20 rule is true for males too.
>>25574976
It's probably closer to 16, more than a few girls in my highschool were dating 20 year olds.
>>25574896
>which it clearly would be
It most certainly is.
>but it's really unlikely to get those two things simultaneously
It's a semi-fair assumption, though I've met a lot of fat sluts I think the unattractiveness encourages them to seek validation through sex.
>does that sound like good odds to you friend?
I honestly think if they knew a virgin and a non-virgin they'd have higher odds of getting a date with a virgin. A young woman sleeping around isn't going to want a long or short term relationship with a robot, at least not in that age range. Robots never had good odds.
>clearly this is not adjusted for attractiveness vs virginity
I think not fat, shows a willingness to settle for other unattractive features as long as she's not fat.
As a robot you can go after teens, try to pick up anti-social shut-ins, girls just entering college, 1-6/10s, fat girls, single moms, or post-30 women looking for a provider (if you actually have money).
>>25575619
>shows a willingness to settle for other unattractive features as long as she's not fat
thats a pretty big assumption. its more likely that they would be too autistic/inexperienced to know what things they really should be seeking in a partner. which would be ignorance and not a willingness to settle for nearly anything else.
I like how you keep directing this teribad advice towards me though, haha, keep at it friendo.
>>25575792
> thats a pretty big assumption
What assumption, that's literally the point of relegating it to two characteristics "this and anything else is fine".
>I like how you keep directing this teribad advice towards me though
I didn't mean you in particular, I was discussing robot prospects I'm not trying to shit on you or robots either, just saying it was never a great scene for anti-social people.
