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why don't you just get a tall gf, /r9k/? they have literally
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why don't you just get a tall gf, /r9k/?

they have literally lower standards
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>>25004449
Because women don't like feeling tall and they usually prefer having a taller boyfriend than them to make them feel normal.
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>>25004449
Because there are no tall girls. It's all womanlets.

I would turn down a qt 5'0'' girl because I wouldn't want my sons to be manlets.
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I do have a tall gf
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>>25004449
WHERE IS MY TALL GF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GIVE HER TO ME NOW
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I already have a 5'10" gf.
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>>25004449
>they have literally lower standards
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>>25004449
Girls who are actually tall are usually ugly. The good looking ones are lesbians.
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>>25005426
Why TayTay, why
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Would love to. But being genetically inferior 5'7 manlet doesn't help desu senpai
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>>25004892
Amen brother, we must think of the children.
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>>25005399
And this is why I hate Natsuo and Teppu in general. This page right here made me fucking HATE Natsuo. Spoiler, her attitude never changes.

Don't know why anyone is into this manga at all.

>>25005475
How do you think I feel? I'm literally 5 feet tall and like 110lbs soaking wet.

>>25004892
No you wouldn't.

>>25004918
My wife is 5'10 as well. She actually just left for work at her marketing job in downtown Manhattan with all of the douchebag fratboy Chads that would be dicks to me in front of her.

I'm unemployed so I'm pretty much her househusband. Does that make me a NEET?
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They still want Chad. Like all women.

I swear a thread should be stickied on /r9k/ that just says "They all want Chad"
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Why do tall girls still wear heels?
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>>25006396
Because they want to attract only the tallest of men. If you are shorter then them in heels then you are almost instantly DQ'd.

It also makes their legs and asses look amazing. I tell my wife to wear heels even though she's almost a foot taller then me flat footed because heels are such a fucking turn on. It makes her feel like a super model because she's so much taller then me so she attracts attention and it makes me feel like king shit when I'm with her.

On the other hand, because she wears heels she looks like she's completely out of my fucking league so I have all of these Chads coming to flirt with her in front of me.
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>>25006338
You posted this already

Also you're supposed to hate Natsuo, it's what makes Teppu interesting
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>>25006396

why does any girl wear heels? not for the comfort or mobility I presume.
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>>25006421
>>25006338
This is why I hate normies. This is why I want to leave society and go live like a hermit. Every day as inferior being is humiliation. You get constantly humiliated by people who got luckier. And according to their logic you're not even allowed to hate them for humiliating you. I hope you burn to death.
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I did.

I'm dating a Chinese girl who's 170cm. But I'm 186cm, so that makes up for it.
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>>25006432
Because they're sadistic and like emasculating manlets.
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>>25006426
If Teppu comes up, I'm posting while I hate it.

How is Teppu interesting by giving you a character to follow you are supposed to hate? I don't waste time following the lives of unsympathetic asshole characters. That would be like me reading the life story of Chad Thundercock. No fucking thanks. I'm good.
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>>25004892
I'm 5'8" at 18
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>>25006438
You absolutely could hate me but it's not that I think I'm better then you. I know what it feels like to be invalidated. Seriously, I do. I have to deal with it from my wife all the time. It's a huge issue why even though she's super attractive, I get annoyed as fuck with her. It's not some SoL anime. I am constantly left feel like my opinions are invalid because "Her more knowledgeable co-worker has a different opinion and because he knows what he's talking about she agrees with him" and shit like that.

Also, I'm a fucking manlet who can barely actually physically have sex with my wife so there's that as well. You want to talk humiliation? I can't penetrate my fucking wife.

Nevermind the fact that while she goes and brings home the bacon, I'm her NEET househusband.
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>>25006498
How do you manage to endure that? I know that to function in society I just have to deal with the fact that I will be getting humiliated for things(often out of my control). I can't deal with it and instead of letting people step on me I get agressive and cut them off. Long-term this isn't going to work(obviously).

How can you endure that(I'm seriously asking, not ripping into you). Are you just pussy-whipped? I guess if you don't think there is anything wrong with trading your pride for having sex, then good for you. Seriously.
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>>25006453
it's interesting because she'd be the villain in any other sports manga

she's a shitty flawed character used to coasting through life and being a cocky asshole. and when she finally gets beaten by someone, she has to actually put in work to succeed. she has to analyze herself as a person and recognize how much of an enormous cunt she is. it's a perspective you don't see often. you get into the head of the unbeatable villain and see how they deal when the plucky righteous protagonist defeats them.

people call natsuo a Mary sue because she's good at every sport but that couldn't be a less accurate description, she's a horrible mean character and that's what's interesting about it, you watch her grapple with her own flaws and insecurities

plus there's lots of cool girl-on-girl MMA beatdowns and knees to the face
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>>25006537
Here's the honest truth.

Because I'm so fucking small, I'm used to not being taken seriously by friends and family. I'm used to being the guy that when there is a circle of friends talking together, for some reason I'm always the one fighting to be a part of the circle. When they realize they laugh and let me in but the fact that it's not that they are being malicious but that they just honestly didn't notice me fucking hurts.

I've gone through my entire life coming to terms with the fact that I will never be anyone's "number one".

Until I met my wife. I told myself if there is one person I won't let treat me like I'm some unknowledgable kid due to my size it would be my girl. But, of course, she treats me like everyone else treats me. Maybe it would be different if she was closer to my size but she's almost a foot taller and I guess it is physically impossible or something for people to take manlets like me seriously.

I argue with her but it's a loosing battle. I can't leave the house to vent because she puts me in a fucking headlock and chokes me out until I stop fighting and arguing.

It hurt a lot at first but I come to try and look at the positives. She likes to cuddle me at night, she makes great money at her job, and it allows me to more or less stay at home as her house husband.

If I have to endure teasing by Chads in public or her co-workers flirting with her.... I guess that's just what I have to accept. Short of breaking up with her it's not like shit is going to change.

I guess my point is a guy in my position needs to learn what he is willing to compromise on for what makes him happy. As long as I have a warm body next to me at night, I'm happy.

God, that must sound fucking pathetic. What the fuck am I doing?
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>>25006673
>she puts me in a fucking headlock and chokes me out until I stop fighting and arguing
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>>25004449
1) they're quite rare, at least where i live, most girls are below 5'6
2) most girls prefer to date men who are taller than they are.

my ex gf was 5'10 and she gave me an amazon fetish.
tall women fascinate me
i wouldn't consider dating any girl below 5'9 which makes things even more difficult.
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>>25006673
I'm really happy for you. I'm happy that you are happy. I mean, you've made it work, that's impressive. It really is. I'm pretty sure you can deal with the shit that gets thrown at you.

Now I would just like to know how to accept this day-to-day.
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>>25006806
What's your situation like? Are you a forever alone NEET pissed at the world?
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>>25004449

I know a girl at uni that is at least 6'2", and curvy in all the right places. Drop dead gorgeous. Only problem is she is 18 and she acts like it.
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>>25006806
not him but

attraction, both physical and emotional, is one hell of a fuckin drug

it can make you overlook a lot of shit that would normally be a dealbreaker. it's why cuccks exist at all i think. not saying this guy is a cucck, but when you're madly in love with someone you can ignore how fucked up the relationship might actually be
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>>25006338
Fellow New York bro. W-wanna be friends?

Pls
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>>25006770
>my ex gf was 5'10 and she gave me an amazon fetish.
lmao
half of all ethnic Dutch girls are 5'9 or above
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>>25006835
Also, how do I acquire a tall gf? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS
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I'm 6' (183cm) and live in Germany.
Most women are rather tall (and ugly) here, i prefer the short qts.
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>>25006839
i'm a purebred american but i have blonde hair and blues eyes and an extremely dutch last name

think i can score with a dutch qt?
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>>25004449
I agree with OP here. Tall girls are NOT picky, I've seen it myself. I know a 6'2 girl that was in love with a 5'8 guy, and this was in high school. Most men are way too intimidated to date them and tend to ignore them.
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>>25006849

>purebred
>American

pick one.
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>>25006673
How do you even keep her?
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>>25006849
probably not, seeing as you're on /r9k/ when you should be getting started at school/work rn
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>>25006857
i've been here on my mother's side since the revolution, and my father's side before that

calling myself dutch, german, irish would be a lie and an insult to my ancestors

>>25006869
>you should be getting started at school/work rn
i'm 18 and took the fall semester off to deal with mental health
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>>25006839
>the tallest people on earth are the tallest.
woohoo more news at 11

also thats statistically false, according to wiki which has 5 different study about Netherlander hight says that women are on average 5'7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height
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>>25006835
Sure. Where in New York are you? One of the boroughs? Upstate? Anything in particular you wanna talk about?

>>25006839
My wife is Swedish. She went to visit once. Said if we went back together, I wouldn't even be looked at as seriously being her husband.

>>25006840
Couldn't help you with that. My wife is the one who made the first move when we first met by stealing my bowl of chili I brought to my afternoon college class because I missed lunch and laughing at me by holding it up over my head and out of my reach.

I told her she's taking me out to dinner that night to make up for it and said it with enough conviction that she agreed.

I guess just dress good, be clean, don't be extremely unattractive, don't be fat, and have somewhat of a personality.

What went good for me is that she didn't have many female friends. In my experience, girls with a lot of girl friends will be constantly negged and teased by her friends for being with a guy that "isn't socially acceptable". A lot of girls will not do anything counter to the group.

Find someone independent.

>>25006832
As of now I don't think I'm a cuck. Quite honestly, if she was cheating but her behavior toward me doesn't change I think I would rather not know about it.
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>>25006813
Pretty much. I'm the kind of guy who just can't accept being the groups clown or not getting respect. If this happens I just cut people off.

For example I got bullied a lot in middle school(I was shorter than other boys so even groups of girls beat me up when I was about 11). I always fought back and then a group of guys took me among them, I was smart(effortlessly getting straight As) so I would help them with homeworks for protection(not explicitly but still). I figured this was a good deal. Eventually I became part of their group, started going out with them, drinking etc. When I started going to high school I just couldn't bring myself to meet them anymore. I cut them off because I didn't trust them.

I don't trust people and I cut them off rather than dealing with the fact that I will have to trust them. The group of people I hang out with now(I'm finishing uni now btw) I told them outright that I don't consider them friends and I wouldn't talk to them if we weren't going to the same uni. I just can't make compromises with people. I rather try to act like I don't need them and cut them off when I think I'm getting too attached.

Me complaining about humiliation is just an excuse I tell myself to do this. Some people get lucky, there is nothing humiliating about that. And being in a group of people there is gonna be someone better.

God damn. Venting feels great to be honest.
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>>25004449
they are nowhere to be found
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>>25006859
What do you mean by keep her? Keep her interested? Keep her from cheating?

Quite honestly, I don't do anything but cook, clean, and look cute for her. She makes me do stuff like shave my legs because she likes smooth skin and pee sitting down. Emasculating but nothing I'm not going to do for an attractive girl who is living with me.

There is nothing I can do that would stop her from straying should she choose to. The only thing is she has no groups of female friends trying to "hook her up" or giving her shit about her relationship with a manlet like me.
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>>25006944
post a picture of yourself

>inb4 "she wouldn't like me doing that she'll put my balls in a vicegrip if she finds out"
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>>25004892
>no tall girls
come to scandinavia
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>>25006432
makes the calves look better, and makes you feel nice
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>>25006965
>tfw would move to scandinavia but i'll always be looked down on for being an american
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>>25006895
Dutchman here, I'm 6'1, feels average as pretty much every dude here reaches that height except immigrants.
The girls are indeed not as tall as the anon said, they are actually quite small in comparison but they tend to be like golddiggers.
Of course there are some nice ones out there but as usual, they are rare and taken.

Not that I have much knowledge, I'm still a KV after all.
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>>25006498
i would love a husbando like you, without the insecurity ofcourse
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>>25006982
Don't believe that. Everyone's obsessed with America because they're jealous.
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>>25006944
Oh well, I am jealous, definitely.
Especially since I'm struggling to survive financially, have to study and work while you get to be the househusband of a working woman, a tall one at that.


It's not fair, I want to be a househusband too.
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>>25006998
is that actually true? i've heard that native english speakers experience subtle racism in places like sweden
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>>25006914
There will always be someone better. I know for a fact (my wife straight up tells me) that I'm not as hot as her co-workers nor as manly, objectively speaking. That hurts, but what am I going to do? It's the truth. I'm not going to be as hot or as confident as Chad Thundercock.

But that doesn't mean my wife wants to be with Chad over me. Chad might look great but have a shitty personality. I have a friend who sleeps with a bunch of girls (most of them are damaged goods anyway) but he is so fucking annoying, nobody can stand to be around him for long periods of time.

Everyone will have something about them that rubs people the wrong way. Every time you see someone post about manlets, it's because it's easy to feel good about yourself when you dump on somebody else. That's bullying 101 man.

>told them outright that I don't consider them friends and I wouldn't talk to them if we weren't going to the same uni

That's kinda harsh anon. If you don't consider them friends I wouldn't suggest hanging out. But I absolutely would not suggest telling them they aren't your friends and continuing to interact with them. Sends mixed messages.

Honestly, for me it's less stressful being with groups of people and instead I interact more one on one. I would rather have one or two friends then be a part of a group just to keep up appearances. Though, as a manlet, that also comes from tending to be left out of conversations and shit if there is a group.
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>>25007035
post a picture of yourself

i want to know that this isn't just fanfiction
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>>25006361

I can totally imagine some 5/10 dude got super red faced with anger while typing this. he then goes over to a porn site afterward and furiously masturbates to "lesbian only" porn because having dudes in the video "makes you gay". afterward he will then beg him mom for sevearl bucks to go to subway and then make a shitty "Neets and subway" thread. after about 30 minutes of eating and shitposting its time to fap again so he makes a thread about traps and "swears up and down its straighter than straight porn". after a second fap he's feeling kind of down so he makes a "why can't I get a girlfriend thread" where he proceeds to hate woman and berate them in every single post. Afterward he just goes to a "woman hate thread" and continues to post on how he hates woman. Then lastly he finds another thread about woman and the process begins again.
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>>25007035

So how long until she cucks you?
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>>25007035
Honestly I consider them friends. I just can't deal with that. I'm afraid that if I actually admit I like spending time with them, they will take advantage of it and start treating me like shit. Only way I got the bullying to stop was to be cautious, to always be on my toes and never let people too close.

Somehow do it to this day. Once we were sitting in a pub after about 8 pints of beer and somehow thought about this dumb game where we try to find an animal that resembles a person. They pretty much all agreed I'm a porcupine. Always keeping people away.

Now you probably understand my confusion with your situation. I can't even trust bunch of guys I go drinking with even though they never acted like cunts to me. Trusting a woman so much, that she will not cuck me with Chad(even though she is hot and even taller than me) that she will not just treat me like dirt after I get attached to her. I just comprehend that.
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>>25006990
Well, the insecurity is something I keep inside.

I'm trying to find a full time job and that is generally the only insecurity I display to her. I don't bitch to her about her co-workers flirting or about how that makes me feel. Gotta show her I have at least "some" self respect.

Still, she does put the smack down on me a lot so that also stops me from being Sir Bitchalot.

>>25007013
Dumb fucking luck buddy. That's all it is. She was a 4.0 in school and had a full scholarship then went in to work directly after school. So she makes great money and that's not the standard. I would not base a comparison on what you should be realistically upset about on my situation. I accept being jealous, but don't beat yourself up over it.

My biggest hang up is that I'm not independent. I'm at my wife's whims. Which sucks more then you might think.

I sit home, and shitpost on 4chan. Play video games. Clean the house. Drink a cup of coffee on the front porch. Start on dinner. Shitpost on 4chan more.

That gets fucking old every damn day. It really fucking does. I want to go to work so fucking bad. My biggest issue is interviews. A lot of people immediately see me and judge me based on how little I am. "We don't think you would command the presence this job requires. We have concerns about your ability to direct conversation with a customer." Shit like that.

>>25006962
I'm nothing special.
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>>25007116
I don't wear the chain anymore and I don't have my hair that long either. It's just a crew cut now.
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>>25006982
meh most people here are okay with americans. you're way better than the immigrants at least.
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>>25007116
you know she's cheating on you right?
you're her pet at best, her maid definitely
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>>25006911
Staten Island. I dunno mate, you got skype or something?
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Yeah I remember that reddit thread too. Nice b8.
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>>25007212
Well, what I don't know won't hurt me.
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>>25007275
Don't have a cam unfortunately. Honestly, never had a reason to get one since I've never had a need to video chat with anyone. You play any MMOs?
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>>25007464
You don't need a cam mate, you can just type.

Got a steam? I can add ye on that.
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>>25006982
You'd be considered a novelty here. As long as you're /fit/ and not short you'd do fine.
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>>25004892
If you arent a manlet your sons wont be manlets. If i had a dollar for every short women with a tall son i saw i wouldnt need to be a wagecuck
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>I'm 5'8
>Last gf was 5'9
>New girl I'm talking to is 5'10
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>>25006673
Speak to a therapist, it doesn't have to be this way. You'll argue with me, your defeated self telling yourself that this is how it should be but it don't. Most Short male/Tall female relationships are happy. Both partners feel respected, equal. It doesn't have to be this way. You don't need to feel the pain you do.
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>>25004449
Har, nice pun my friend
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>>25007116
you seem at the same level of attractiveness desu
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>>25008242
Implying that we are both pretty average looking?
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>>25008297
yeah. a couple of 6/10's
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>>25008353
6/10?
Shit that's /soc/ material right there.
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because im 1.67
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>>25004449
because tall girls are scum they dont have a bigg white buble ass and dont have gr8 tits... its ok to idk. have sons with tall bitches but in the bed? naaah let me fuck the short 5.4 girls with a Bubble but and gr8 tits.
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>>25008462
the fuck kind of sentence is that
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>>25006965
>tfw there are tons of scandinavian girls who are 6' or above
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I really like tall women. They know when I'm admiring to because I stand retarded and I stutter when talking with them.

Gotta avoid what I love the most because I'm a birch.
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>>25008396
do you disagree?
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>>25006673
Damn that's rough, man. And kinda hot. Good luck with that
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>>25006338
> I'm literally 5 feet tall
>My wife is 5'10

How do you do it?
Teach me your secret
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>>25004449
5'7" is my cutoff
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>>25010295
Do what? How do I have a taller girl?
Or how do I have sex?

>>25009310
It is a rough situation but what do you find hot about that?
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>>25005399

>tfw I'm 168cm
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>>25010805
Originally the first, but why not answer both?
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>>25006673
>I argue with her but it's a loosing battle. I can't leave the house to vent because she puts me in a fucking headlock and chokes me out until I stop fighting and arguing.

Hori shitu
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>>25010894
167cm here. Gf is 10cm taller.
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I'm 6'6.

Where do I apply to get my qt, tall, slim gf?
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>>25011402
Don't look like a goddamn scrawny lanklet.

>>25011068
I'm telling you.

>>25010926
Well, she came onto me and basically told me I was cute, adorable and the complete opposite of any other guy she has dated previously. She works full time and I'm pretty much the house husband.

Sex is hard. I'm a lot smaller and lighter then her so it's hard for me to penetrate her without her spreading apart her ass cheeks and vagina lips herself. On top of that, since she likes it from behind but her ass is so firm, it's like I'm bruising my abs everytime we have sex.

I'm not really that good at it though. Can't do it standing up, I'm too short. Can't really do missionary because her legs are too long and heavy for me to hold as I thrust at the same time. And she won't ride me because she's afraid of cracking one of my ribs. Most of the time I will hump her ass cheeks until I cum, sometimes still clothed. That turns her on for some reason more then actual sex.

Or I'll simply eat her out while she watches some chick flick movie.
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>>25006338
>And this is why I hate Natsuo and Teppu in general. This page right here made me fucking HATE Natsuo. Spoiler, her attitude never changes.
>Don't know why anyone is into this manga at all.

It would have been interesting if the short guy was so traumatized by that rejection he ended up becoming the best fighter in the world, and rekt her shit in the first ever "progressive" fight between a man and a woman.
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>>25011746
I would have enjoyed that. Or somehow, Natsuo acts like an asshole toward him but he keeps doing shit for him and eventually gets through to her or through her own character development she sticks up for him or something like that.

I would have enjoyed seeing that. But what we got was Natsuo starting as a bitch, constantly acting like a bitch, and going through no arc or getting no redemption. So I'm reading this, completely unsympathetic toward her, solely hoping she will get the shit kicked out of her.

Honestly, after realizing she wasn't going to change I was hoping she would have a Million Dollar Baby happen to her.
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>>25011690

Man, I really admiring you for having the guts to continue living. You're literally her dwarf helper who happens to give her sexual pleasure as well.

Made me tear up.

>>25011350

I would never date someone taller than me anyway but finding short girls who are also interested in me would be tough(if I tried).
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>>25011802
What's wrong with giving a girl sexual pleasure?
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> Tall women aren't picky

Yes they fucking are, any woman over 5'9-10" demands a boyfriend of at least 6'2 so they can wear their fucking retarded high heels without feeling like trees. Even the manly looking taller girls still won't drop their standards.

5'11 here and I'd like nothing more than a 6' girl but they wouldn't dream of it - even if your actually pretty tall by non-internet standards.
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>>25011846

Nothing but it's like being a dog and getting baited into licking her pussy you know
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>>25004449
>6'4 with heels
Wow it's fucking nothing
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>>25012095
I'm okay with this. Does that make me pathetic?
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I AM 25 YEARS OLD AND 5'8" TALL, I WANT A TALL GF SO BADLY
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>>25012205
> Stupid Lowerrider shop.
>Stupid platform heels.

The fuck are you doing?
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>>25012125

The thing that makes you pathetic is being her pet. Might be your fetish tho in that case good on you for achieving the impossible
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>>25012240
I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK

I WANT A TALL GF RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>25012274

Ok. Anything in particular that turns you on about tall girls? Would you be cool with being her good little househusband like I am?
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>>25011690
> Don't look like a goddamn scrawny lanklet.

Just how I look m8
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>>25012361
Be clean shaven and wear tight clothes so you look lean instead of awkwardly lanky. There you go.
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>>25004449

Nice pun OP.
Though, if tall girls are frustrated that they aren't taken seriously as girl friend material because they are too tall why don't they go for shorter guys who literally have to deal with the inverse of this problem?

Seems like it would be a match made in heaven.
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Tall girls want even taller guys to date. How else will they be able to wear their precious heels or feel 'protected'?
You cannot win.
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I actually love girls who are a little bit taller than me

too bad i'm 5'8 so still wont date anyone over 5'11
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>>25012994
Why wouldn't you date a taller girl? Seems like your limiting your dating pool.
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>>25004449
My dick isn't big enough. :(

It must be weird for a girl to get fucked by a manlet. I probably wouldn't be able to stop laughing.
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>>25013140
Well I'm 5 ft tall and my wife is 5'10
>>25007116
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hot as hell
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giants
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>>25013421
Those stupid platform heels are ugly and unnecessary as hell.

Something more normal like a 4 inch heel would be hotter.
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>>25004892
riiiiight for the son!

>wanting kids with these whores anyway

KEKKLE SHYEKKLE
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why cant i just post pictures without making a stupid comment?
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>>25004449
>they have literally lower standards

maybe the hyper tall ones, 6'2++

just tall still want a guy taller than them, in fact even more than shorter ones
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>>25013421
id worship her feet for hours
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Short girls BTFO
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No, they still want to date guys who are 5 inches taller than them.
A 6'2 girl will ONLY date 6'7 or taller.
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>>25006673
>I argue with her but it's a loosing battle. I can't leave the house to vent because she puts me in a fucking headlock and chokes me out until I stop fighting and arguing.

bait

tall women are still much weaker than small men
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>>25005451
She got tired of being PnD by Hollywood Chads.
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>>25006474
Cute, i was 5ft 8 at 10.
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>>25004449
181 cm tall girl here with some of the highest standars. In my country, being tall is seen as attractive
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>>25006982
living in denmark grills here love americans here definitely picking from a better tier than i do in the US. if only i was fit it would be GG
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>>25004449
>tfw when my ex was taller than me
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Im 6ft 3, where do i find a girl atleast 6ft tall.
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>>25013881
In the Netherlands
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>>25007851

Bullshit my mum is 5"7 and my dad is 5"11 and I'm 5"7-
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My wife is 10 inches taller, it sucks.
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>>25014052
atleast you have a wife

>tfw kissless virgin, not even ugly just short
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>>25014080
Well it was an arranged situation, so neither of us had much say.
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