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Whats even the point of women wearing the head covering if they
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Whats even the point of women wearing the head covering if they still wear makeup, often excessively and provocatively?
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Provocative makeup?

Get a grip.
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>>24980667
Women aren't logical.

Even the headscarf actually ends up attracting them more attention in non-Muslim majority countries, where it's intended purpose is to make men more likely to ignore them.
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>>24980667
idk but hijabs make me want to fuck women more, especially if they have pretty faces and makeup on.


You're literally wrapping soft comfy looking attire around your entire head/neck therefore pronouncing your facial features.

Imagine getting a blowjob and your balls hitting her hijab
>mfw i google hijab and op's pic is the first pic possible
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Hence burkas.
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Most of them don't. That's like saying "what's the point of having a girlfriend if you're just going to come home and be forced to watch Tyrone fucking her through the window" because all you watch is c u c K porn. Only on the Internet and in glamor shots do average Muslim women wear that much makeup.
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/sp/ doing diong, opinion wrong /sp/
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Most Muslim women do not use that much makeup. I went to a high school with a lot of Muslim girls and most were plain faced. There were some that used makeup and those looked pretty.
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>>24980667
Because women are fucking obnoxious.
Whether their fad is islam or lesbianism or nerdiness, they always make huge fucking noise about it.
>OMG im so islamic
>OMG im such a lesbian
>OMG im such a nerd
Yet simultaneously they want dick and attention.
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>>24980701
>makeup
>designed for the sole purpose of making someone more attractive
>omg I can't believe you consider makeup provocative
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>>24980846
this, very few women take Islam seriously

which is why I would be cool with refugees if we only accepted women and children
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>>24980717
>Only on the Internet and in glamor shots do average Muslim women wear that much makeup.
>>24980779
>Most Muslim women do not use that much makeup

Except you're both wrong. Maybe a couple of years ago that was the case but as an 18 year old Londoner I can assure you islamic values in the young have been gradually eroded over the years.
The current generation often wear skinny jeans, leggings and tight trackpants with their hijab and makeup on. There's also been a rise in young pregnancies with these girls which are swiftly covered by the enforcement of marriage.

Tl;dr Not even muslims are safe from degeneracy.
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>virgin qt muslim girl wants my dick
I don't even know anymore. What the FUCK do I do? Run? She's pretty westernized, doesn't wear the headscarfs.
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>>24981137
Do it ninja THEN run.
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Women are retards.

Why would you ask this question? It's like asking why babies shit in their pants. They're fucking stupid. That's the answer.
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>>24981137
So only slightly/not at all religious, and her family won't kill you?

Then sure, go for it.
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>>24981100
>I can assure you islamic values in the young have been gradually eroded over the years.

in young women maybe

radicalism amongst muslim men is on the rise
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>>24981272
>in young women maybe
>radicalism amongst muslim men is on the rise

Not unlike white men.
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>>24981291
why is it that everytime someone criticises islam people immediately resort to deflection?

>yeah will those white guys on /pol/ are pretty radial
>yeah will jimmy saville was white and he raped people
>yeah well the westboro baptist church is pretty awful

you realise all this does is damage progress, prevent public dialogue and increase resentment between muslims and non muslims right? It's an utterly unproductive way to react to criticism.
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>>24981316
I'm white too, I was just stating it matter-of-factly.

A lot of radical Muslims aren't as different from us as we'd like to admit, and are responding to the same social issues that piss robots off.
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>>24980667

hnnnnngggggg hijabporn!!!!
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>>24981335
I'm not some stormfag who sees everything in black and white "radical muslims are ebil" rhetoric, but I feel society is still in the stage of denial rather than trying to be proactive about combatting radicalism. Every time I try to discuss issues in the Muslim community I'm always met with responses like yours and it's incredibly frustrating.
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>>24981357

That's because they get smartasses like you literally every single day. You're not entitled to an answer.
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>>24981272
>in young women maybe
>radicalism amongst muslim men is on the rise
So young muslim women are becoming sluttier and muslim men see this and are attempting to stop it through radicalism?
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>>24981357
I'm not Muslim either, but I can see why they would get defensive.

Radical Islam actually does more damage to Muslims and Muslim countries than to Westerners.

Which is why the US keeps "accidentally" enabling and supporting it with its foreign policy.
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>>24981373
commenting on a serious issue that's fucking killing people isn't being a smartass. This attitude engendered in the Muslim community is the issue. Rather than siding with their fellow man and saying "sorry, this radicalism is fucking disgusting, we are taking active steps to weed it out of our community one scumbag at a time" they instead shout #NotAllMuslims and call on their apologist army (people like you) to scream Islamaphobe at everyone who disagrees.

>>24981384
if it does that much damage to them they need to be more diligent in reporting extremists to the police.
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>>24980667
Block the sun from hitting their necks/shoulders probably.
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>>24981415
>commenting on a serious issue that's fucking killing people isn't being a smartass

If I had a shekel everytime I heard a "but it's an important issue PLEASE INCLUDE ME!!!" from clueless westerners I'd be gill bates right now.

Seriously please just shut the fuck up.
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>>24981415
Why don't the US and Israel apologize for their terrorism?

That's their logic, and they have a point.
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>>24981415
>if it does that much damage to them they need to be more diligent in reporting extremists to the police

Most extremists are in Muslim-majority countries, killing other Muslims.
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>>24981455
I want you to read your post over and think really, really hard about what you're saying right now. You're saying that westerners, who are targetted by muslim extremists, aren't invited to the discussion on muslim extremism. Can you not see how this attitude is harmful, and only seeks to foster distrust and hatred between the two communities?

>>24981464
America and Israel should apologise for their terrorism. I was taught that two rights do not make a wrong, in Britain anyways, the majority of citizens do not support war and do not support Israel. More deflection from Muslims and their sympathisers.

>>24981474
And they also have sleeper cells all over europe. And they also recruit much of their number from European citizens.
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>>24980713
Rare as fuck

Even in Saudi the Hijab is more common
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>>24981100
thats london
every woman dresses like a slut
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>>24981501
>rare as fuck

I'm fucking British and I see women milling about in Burkhas whenever I go into the city.
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Muslim women are fucking dumb that way, they don't get the point.

The point of Hijab is not just LOL DONT SHOW HAIR, it's about dressing modestly. Hijab is NOT a headscarf, Hijab is any dress which is modest, and Muslim men must also dress in Hijab. Which means no flashy jewelry, no unbuttoned shirts, ect. Of course they're just as dumb.
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>>24981520
It's an extreme minority, my town is 20% paki, I'm a paki and even headscarves aren't common
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>>24981495
I'm not saying two wrongs make a right, but your average Muslim probably doesn't feel like apologizing for strangers who happened to share his faith.

Westerners look ridiculous when they attack Muslims for not curbing extremism, when the West itself regularly engages in terrorism in all but name.
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>>24981555
it's a minority, but I wouldn't say it's "rare as fuck" when you see at least one if you spend a few hours walking around

that having been said although I'm critical of Islam I don't actually mind burkhas tbqh

>>24981576
they're not strangers though. British terrorists were part of a community. they attended a mosque, they popped down the shops, they knew local religious leaders and lots of them still lived with their parents. I don't believe for a second that these guys don't exhibit some sort of sign of radicalisation before beheading someone or flying off to Syria.
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>>24981495
>And they also recruit much of their number from European citizens.
Around 1%
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>>24981606
>more british muslims fight for ISIS than our own army
>this somehow isn't worth discussing
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>>24981626
Maybe Prince Harry should call some more of the ones who do "Pakis"

>Negative propaganda relating to the army
It's for idiots, they're the aggressors etc.
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>>24981601
>I don't believe for a second that these guys don't exhibit some sort of sign of radicalisation before beheading someone or flying off to Syria.

They're not stupid, I'm sure most of them know how to hide it.

Even if they did exhibit signs, a lot of Muslims might be too distrustful of law enforcement to turn in their own people.
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>>24981664
>It's for idiots, they're the aggressors etc.

This is mostly true though.
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>>24981664
you are literally a terrorist sympathiser

>the prince said paki so it's okay
>the army started it so it's okay

The more I try and talk about radicalism the more convinced I am the entire muslim community is radicalised.

>>24981669
>a lot of Muslims might be too distrustful of law enforcement to turn in their own people

If Muslims consider radical Muslims "their own people" rather than their fellow secular countrymen then they are scum.
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>>24981680
Not saying it isn't, just that people are made aware of it

Chink-Americans rarely join the army either, it's just that academia is valued in those cultures so even normal pakis don't want to join
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>>24981687
>the prince said paki so it's okay
Not what I said and not the point I was making

That advertises an environment you don't want to be part of
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>>24981687
>If Muslims consider radical Muslims "their own people" rather than their fellow secular countrymen then they are scum.

That's just the way insular minorities are.

They might be hesitant to call the police because they fear that even non-radical Muslims will be subject to investigation and scrutiny that could ruin their careers, families, etc.

Also note what I said earlier about most Muslim terrorists doing more damage to other Muslims than to non-Muslim Westerners.
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>>24981712
If you're that soft skinned you shouldn't be part of the military, you're right. The military isn't politically correct, there is banter. Lots of it. If you're going to get triggered by mean nicknames or getting your ass slapped in the shower you won't enjoy the military. There are Muslims out there, I'm sure, who aren't so fucking thin skinned. The reason they're not joining is because they're not properly integrating into society.

>>24981749
>insular minorities

this is not okay

muslims are segregating and considering muslims "their own" and non muslims an "other". this is my whole point in the first place. They neither appreciate nor integrate with their host countries.
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>>24981765
>there is banter
Racial abuse isn't "banter"
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>>24981790
I've met plenty of minorities who love racist banter, you're just a faggot man.
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>>24981765
>They neither appreciate nor integrate with their host countries.

Who's alienating who? Maybe they reject the high rates of divorce, drug abuse, and general degeneracy that are more prevalent among the secular British.

Plenty of white people are socially rejective too.

Besides, most Muslim immigrants only left their countries to escape political problems that were largely caused by British and US interference.
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>>24981828
"Paki" is racial abuse

There's nothing creative or funny about it
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>>24981833
>Who's alienating who? Maybe they reject the high rates of divorce, drug abuse, and general degeneracy that are more prevalent among the secular British.
maybe they should fuck off to some Muslim shithole where women get stoned to death for trying to leave their husbands then.
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>>24981844
it's literally just an acronym for Punjab, Afghan, Kashmir and Indian.
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>>24981828
Idk about you, but I know pol gets but mad if you say white men are entitled. And that's not even that offensive. No one "enjoys" being singled out and picked on.

Just because bullying is fun doesn't me it's not hurtful.
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>>24981848
Radical Islam and political instability in the Muslim world were mostly caused by US and British foreign policy. The Muslim world was quickly becoming secular a few decades ago.

The most religious countries like Saudi Arabia are US allies.
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>>24981833
>most Muslim immigrants only left their countries to escape political problems that were largely caused by British and US interference.
No

They're regular economic migrants like Poles and Mexicans

>>24981861
No

Pakistan is an acronym
Paki is more like Jap

>>24981848
You're boring, fuck off
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>>24981861
Most British don't even know about provinces like Kashmir or Punjab, there aren't that many Afghan immigrants in Britain, and it doesn't make sense to list India all together but not mention Pakistan.

It's a slur for Pakistani and you know it.
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>>24981874
calling white men entitled is a criticism, not banter

banter is more like

>haha you are brown
>oh yeah well at least I don't have a tiny dick

it's simple shit, and race is just one of many things friends use to rib on eachother. Sorry you're such a soft fucker.

>>24981880
>the ottoman empire and moorish invasion of spain was caused by the US govt

Radicalism has been a thing long before now. Again, you're pushing more blame game bullshit. Blaming western intervention doesn't magically make muslims failing to integrate and supporting radicalism okay.

>>24981888
>fuck off

quality rebuttal
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When are we gonna get our freedom of speech back? Smh desu senpai kek
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>>24981888
Do you know what an acronym is?
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>>24981888
Well Pakistan is not an acronym its a proper noun.
How about those refugees tho? Amirite? I live in Canada and we are getting lots of those refugees.
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>>24981905
>ottoman empire and moorish invasion of spain
So USSR aggression is atheist radicalism
The British empire is christian radicalism?
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>>24981905
Well yea that probably would be banter. A lot of people cross over from banter into stereotyping and discrimination. I'm not saying they always do but it happens.

>not a muzzie btw
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>>24981900
and it's also not the reason muslims aren't joining the British army. They're not joining because they reject western values entirely. This thread has made that abundantly clear. So called "moderate" muslims care more about the radicals than they do atheists, or Christians. And they care very little for Britain, for secularism or for freedom of speech.

>>24981937
USSR was statist radicalism, atheism was promoted because people under Soviet rule were to worship the state, not because they had any particular commitment to proving god doesn't exist.

I'm sure during the time of the British empire many Christians were on board with the persecution for religious reasons, so yes.
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>>24981905
The collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the redrawing of borders during the Treaty of Versailles actually did sow the seeds for a lot of the problems in the Middle East today.

And invasions were more about land and resources. North Africa and the Middle East had been invaded by Europe plenty of times in the past.

>Blaming western intervention doesn't magically make muslims failing to integrate and supporting radicalism okay.

No, but it helps explain why they don't always police it as much as they should.

If you won't look examine your own society and the actions of your government, you aren't any better than they are.
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>>24981454
Like hair?
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>>24981980
I'm heavily critical of my government. I'm also heavily critical of the Muslim community in my country. Time and time again, Muslims and Muslim sympathisers immediately resort to playing the blame game and deflecting rather than having a constructive dialogue about the problems in their community. It makes me wonder if they consider radicalisation a problem at all.

And for the record, Western funding of terrorist groups never would have happened if Russia hadn't invaded Afghanistan. I don't want to get dragged off into a big debate about it, but people seem to forget it wasn't the west who started the middle eastern shitstorm.
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>>24982022
Yeah I guess it's just like extra protection, desert sun is pretty harsh.
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>>24982037
Trump supporter?
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>>24981954
>They're not joining because they reject western values entirely.

Plenty of Westerners reject the modern state of the West too. "Freedom of speech" doesn't look so great anymore when you actually look at the foreign policy of Britain and the US. Freedom of speech also enables a bunch of degenerate entertainment that most intelligent people (Muslim or not) reject.

White people like you who blame Muslims for everything are usually from the lowest, least educated levels of society.

Also
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>>24981880
are all a white guy.
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Women who are actually devout believers of Islam are not allowed to show their body or face at all.
The women like in the OP are attention whore SJWs who probably know less about the Koran than most people on /pol/.
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>>24982037
>those russians made us pay terrorists to fight them, it's not our fault

The USSR would never have become a major power anyway if the Allies hadn't given them such a headstart during World War II, all to fight the wrong people.
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>>24982087
Statistically this is correct^ racism as a whole I more predominant positively correlated with lower education.

Saw somewhere that 35% of people voting for Donald either hadn't graduated highschool or hadn't pursued post secondary.

Food for thought
>still not a muzzie
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>>24982097
>Women who are actually devout believers of Islam are not allowed to show their body or face at all.
Not true
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>>24982120
He's not even "racist" by the actual definition, even if I don't agree with him.

He just tries to pin all the blame on Muslims for not policing their own communities for radicalism, without realizing that the West has the same problem, without realizing why Muslims might distrust mainstream Western society, and without realizing that terrorists statistically kill other Muslims the most and damage Muslim countries more than Western ones.
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>>24982070
I'm British, I know very little about Trump's policies.
>>24982117
You're right, we should have just let Germany carve up Europe as they please and enforce their values and culture on us. What a brilliant idea.

>>24982087
>freedom of speech is degenerate
>you are stupid, these statistics I'm not going to post say so!

I actually feel sorry for you. I also believed you were white at first, but the more you insist you are despite nobody claiming anything to the contrary makes me highly suspect.
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>>24980667
+tight and revealing clothes, often in colours such as pink. Lol.
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>>24982120
>35% of people voting for Donald either hadn't graduated highschool or hadn't pursued post secondary.
So you're saying 65% of Trump's supporters are either in college or college graduates? I wonder if Hillary even has those kinds of numbers.
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>>24981464

America isn't terrorst, israel certainly, but america just engages in asymmetric warfare. It makes sense though. Fuck getting killed my some pedophile camelfuckers with ww1 era weaponry when you can fly in an rc plane or fire a missile through 40' of solid rock straight down their urethra. If they would keep their bullshit in the middle east only interacting with us to sell cheap oil everyone would be happy. This 911 and boston marathon shit is totes ridick.
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>>24981626
>>more british muslims fight for ISIS than our own army
got a sourceon that?
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>that guy who never shuts up about his SERIOUS DISCUSSION IMPORTANT TOPICS
>that guy who when people tell him to shut up and stop being annoying he thinks he's the only one around who cares about important issues when he's actually just an annoying party-pooper armchair general

>>24980667
Because they are still women, and like all women want men to give them attention for being beautiful, even if it's contradictory or nonsensical.
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>>24982292
560 muslims in British army. MoD estimates 500 have gone to fight for ISIS as of 2014. At the same time, MP Khalid Mahmood claimed the numbers were as high as 1500. Even if you only believe the 500 figure, it's a year old now. Either ISIS has overtaken the army or they're neck and neck. http://europe.newsweek.com/twice-many-british-muslims-fighting-isis-armed-forces-265865
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>>24982188

Who gives a shit about who the muslims kill more of? I only care about americans. All the sufis, kurd, shits, sunnys, whatever can kill each other, I don't give a shit. It's the same in america. Black lives don't matter and I"m glad they're killing each other, but if they steal my bike or punch one of my friends then I"m ready to fire up the cross and grab some rope. Muslims are all shit. If they won't police themselves then it's time we start policing for them. That's too difficult though, so we could just shut off any immigration from their countries, shut off any internet access in their countries, and destroy all their power and water facilities. If they want to live in the stone age we'd be more than happy to help.
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>>24982292

>united kaliphate
>loyal to the crown

kek, don't make me laff. They're loyal to the turban.
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>>24982319
Suprise !!!!
It's people like you (who exist in all colours and religions) that are what's wrong with the world.

If you were born in the middle east you're the type of person who would become an extremist.

You shouldn't be proud of being closed minded. But if you feel the need, why not take it to pol, there's a thread there for you
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Who knows, it's probably just some tradition by now. I live in the ghetto and see tons of young muslim girls with head scarf and big jackets but wearing make up, tight pants and high heels. I even saw one wearing those ballet style heels that cause you to walk on your toes.
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>>24980667
Tradition, why the fuck do we celebrate Christmas, use wedding rings, wear suits and ties, or any other weird cultural thing. We do it because our parents did it and our culture tells us to do it.
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>>24982319
Lol >>24982393 is right. It's people like you who start every ridiculous war throughout history that kills too many people because "I care more about my own kind than any others!!!"
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>>24983109
pretty sure most of those things you mentioned have more to do with capitalism than tradition
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>>24983232
Yeah, but capitalism wouldn't promote them if they weren't already traditions. Plus I'd say capitalism is a pretty strong tradition of our society too.
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>>24982199
>You're right, we should have just let Germany carve up Europe as they please and enforce their values and culture on us.

Aw, what a cutie pie.

They never wanted to invade all of Europe, but it still would have been better if they had.
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If wearing a head scarf is a "choice" then why don't I ever read about muslim women choosing not to wear it?
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>>24982199
You implied I wasn't white when you said:

>[muslims] reject western values entirely
>this thread has made that abundantly clear

I can tell you're simple-minded and uneducated based on the way you think, and exaggerate my points while not actually addressing them.

>>24982277
The US is actually worse than Israel. At least Israel is usually attacked first before it retaliates, and is primarily concerned with defending its own citizens and land.

If the US kept its dick out of the Middle East they would leave us alone too.

>>24982319
It's relevant that terrorists usually kill other Muslims because the argument that its the US vs. Muslim terrorists falls apart. Terrorists kill more people in Islamic countries than the US does.

Terrorism was and is enabled and indirectly supported by US foreign policy. You probably don't have the capacity, but try learning the differences between Islamic countries. Learn which ones have oil, which ones don't, which ones the US supports, which ones don't, which governments were secular and which ones were religious, and which ones the US supports and which ones it doesn't. And learn how Al Qaeda and the Taliban first appeared, who supported their rise, and why.

>>24983191
The irony is most Americans and British don't even treat their own people that well.
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>>24983533
>i don't read about it so it doesn't happen

A lot of them just do it for their parents, and to piss off people like you.
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>>24981520
Burqa as in pic related or the Niqab? Because I don't think anyone wears Burqas outside of Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan
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>>24983752
Probably the niqab, I doubt he's aware of the difference.
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>>24983652

Then they should be killed. If they only wear it to piss us off then they have no right to complain when muslims are hated.
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>>24984873
>sjws shouldn't complain if something hurts their feelings
>people who hurt my feelings should be killed

>people who are different from me piss me off
>they shouldn't complain if i hate them
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>>24981100
That's London. Go to a Muslim country for five minutes. Nobody does that.
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>>24980667
>>24980701

This.

No straight man gives a shit about women's makeup.

I never went OH MY GOD LOOK AT HER EYELASHES HOLY SHIT I AM GOING TO CUM BUCKETS TO THE THOUGHT OF THAT FOR YEARS AND YEARS

and half the time they end up looking like clowns or some 95 year old lady with dementia who thinks that she's getting ready for prom and applied dog dick-red lipstick on her face with shaking hands.
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>>24982277
this should be a copypasta
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>>24986462
>would probably instinctively rate a woman 2 or 3 points higher if she was wearing makeup

Hell, even plenty of men wear makeup if they're appearing on TV or stage.
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>>24986506
they just wear a foundation to reduce glare from their sweaty oily pores and skin and the studio lights.

those who go full-makeup look ridicuous
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>>24983752
Qt shota on the right
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>>24981844
Do you get buttblasted whenever someone says jap or brit
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