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would you fire this person?
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>>24447723
I'm calling fake
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>>24447723
I'd fire someone if they didn't have proof of citizenship, yes. That shit's illegal
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Fire who? Why would an employee write down that someone isn't allowed to tip him? Doesn't make sense. It would make more sense for the customer to have written that tip bit, insulting the foreign waiters.
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>>24447723
in a heartbeat, people have to learn to stop putting their shit all over social media, especially if your shit involves your source of income.
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>>24447763
Fire for taking the photo of receipt and getting back at the customer by sharing this.
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>>24447763
welp... thats exactly the case, buddy.... you got it....
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>>24447723
>Handwriting looks like someone was attempting to write outside of their natural style
Fake as fuck
Also fucking hell you can get in major trouble for posting customer information like that
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>>24447763
>It would make more sense for the customer to have written that tip bit, insulting the foreign waiters.
Or... the waiter was given a cash tip that she didn't feel was big enough so she framed this guy for pity points. Most people I know don't even fill that in and instead give cash as a tip.
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can't the guy sue the restaurant/employee now?
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>>24447778
Oh, right. Yeah, I would fire him. That's very bad customer service. Attempting to shame the customer is bad for business.
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>>24447765
As a skiptracer, I can confirm that the number 1 way I find people is through their social media accounts. Believe it or not, even the shape of a house, or the location of a restaurant can tip someone off as to where you're located.
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>>24447723
No. You can't even tell which restaurant it is from the post.
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>Jason clearly specifies he only tips US citizens
>Gina tries to make it a race thing

Fuck off gook
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>>24448004
The question is how he'd know whether the waiter was a US citizen or not
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>>24448000
implying the employer doesn't have a record of the transaction that can be found from the information from the receipt
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>>24448023
that chinese waiter probably barely spoke english
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Why do Americ.ucks think they're entitled to tips? It's completely at the discretion of the customer.
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>>24448102
>Asian
>Chinese
All Asians confirmed from China.
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>>24448155
whatever bitch nigga you know what I meant
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>>24447723
They wouldn't be fired because gook restaurants are all ran by family or at the least families of very close friends.

Frankly I don't give two shits about chinks they're so overpopulated they have no value.
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I thought you were asking if we'd fire Jason Naglich....I'm confused.
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>>24448310
I'd say they're up there with Jews and Whites as one of the most accomplished races, at least.
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>>24448343
I think he's asking if we'd fire Jason if we were his employer and saw that he left that tip.
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>Someone doesn't leave a tip
>Write down something completely victimizing you.
This has been done ALL the fucking time. First there was a ''No Justice No Tip'' shit, then a #BLM shit and now this.
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It's easier to bitch about people who don't tip than it is to take under-paying employers to an employment tribunal and call them on their shit.
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depends

firing and hiring a replacement in theory costs nothing but in reality is an intangible burden on administration and efficiency

also no one can read that signature anyway, it is not like there was going to be a witch hunt against the customer, however if the debacle stirred up enough controversy and threatened the popularity of my restaurant to a degree greater than the burden of firing and hiring then I would fire the waiter
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>>24447765
Congrats!

You lost.

You now have an infinitely worse PR disaster on your hands, because you fired the guy who was In The Right.

>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/applebees-boycott

>>24448140
Because they are in nearly every form except legal. They get paid significantly less because tips are supposed to make up for the loss; it's as much a part of their income as anything else.
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>>24448786
>They get paid significantly less because tips are supposed to make up for the loss
Yes, but that is completely fucked up. Take those sorts of employers to court for pulling that shit. If all this wait staff pulled together, like they do to shame non-tippers, and used that energy to file a class-action thingy against those employers, they could actually get something done.

Minimum wages exist.
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>>24448786
>reddits are a stupid hivemind
Nothing new. I'd still fire them.
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>>24448877
And you'd still lose. You're now making a hell of a lot less money than if you hadn't fired them.

You could have just waited a few months, and then fired them (with a different excuse, obviously).
>>24448848
Anon, you don't seem to realise that it's part of US law. It's the reason the minimum wage is so comparatively low in the US; it's also the source of a lot of debate, because some think the wage should be increased, others think that the tip system works better.
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>America
>Tipping culture
Thank fuck i'm from a actual decent country where employers are forced to pay someone a complete decent minimum wage.

Stay mad amerikeks
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>>24447723
>taking the time out of your day to write "Tip for U.S. Citizens Only" instead of "0.00" or nothing at all
White people are retarded.
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I am really fucking tired of this; waiters don't get paid minimum wage! Give them all your money meme. Once you hit a certain amount of tips, you put a percentage into a pool for the other employees. If someone doesn't get tipped enough, they still make minimum wage, it just comes out of the pool. Most waiters make ABOVE minimum wage. And most don't report the full amount of their tips anyways, so that they're percentage is lower.

But even with all that in mind the most important thing to remember is this; there are other jobs out there. A job is NOT an obligation. You signed your ass up for it, you agreed to the terms. Find another job.
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>>24448944
>some think the wage should be increased
The workers.
>others think that the tip system works better.
The bosses.

Start a fucking union. Mass strikes.
Actually, strikes don't work in america, do they. A business will simply hire on a load of mexicans to make up the difference.
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>>24449012
>A business will simply hire on a load of mexicans to make up the difference.
And then promptly get shut down for doing so.
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Look at the signature, then the writing of the words and numbers.

The handwriting is so drastically different that it seems more likely the girl wrote it in herself.

I used to live in Redondo Beach, California so I know they all suck and are victimizing cunts.
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>>24449012
Also, the unions are pretty much just a force for the bosses. They work against the labourers and have no concept of socialism.
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I'm a waiter, I make $20 an hour typically, even with shitty tips. People who post shit like OP are entitled fuckwits and the worst coworkers you could imagine.

I tip high when I go out because I get tipped high regularly and it makes up the differences for people who dont tip (read: niggers typically)
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>>24449009
Why are conservatives such tight arses? Throw a little money round you tight cunt.
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>>24448944
>applebee's fires employee
>slacktivists like pages or retweet about how bad it is
>slacktivits say they would eat there at least once if the person was re-hired

All I'm seeing is people saying "oh man how bad stop itttt" then people saying "oh man if you rehired it would be so goodddddd." That's good PR because normies love a redemption story where they can feel better than others.
Unless you have actual proof of how much money they lost in firing the person, and can find a way to quantify the other people who are more likely to go there because they know employees won't be twitter-shaming them, you can't really say "duhh you'll lose then stupid cause look at that facebook page"
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>>24449061
No troll, genuinely interested, how much do you make pretips?
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I actually own a diner (inherited it) and I wouldn't fire someone for doing this. My employees have the right to tell any asshole to fuck off.
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>>24449082
Are you retarded.

>you want to boost your PR so you make more money
>so you fire the employee
>this only worsens PR

Obviously, if you were considering firing the employee in the first place you shouldn't; unless you have some other nonsensical reason to do so that doesn't involve making money, in which case you lose.
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>>24449031
Then fucking strike.

Good luck to the bosses running a restaurant with no wait staff. They'll have to put on buffets. It'd be awful.
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>>24448390
Not a single post has answered that question. So I will.

If I were Jason's employer, I'd probably just turn the other cheek unless there was significant pressure.
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>>24447723
Wait are they saying that they don't think she's a US citizen, or that they are not a US citizen and don't want to tip.

This could just be the case of some europoor not wanting to tip and writing in improper English
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>>24448786
>Because they are in nearly every form except legal. They get paid significantly less because tips are supposed to make up for the loss; it's as much a part of their income as anything else.

And do you know what happens if they don't get enough tips to make minimum wage? Their employer covers the difference.
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>>24449119
>Americans
>Ever striking
As an immigrant, I feel like it would literally take being raped fifty times a day by the government and employers before anyone ever organized a strike in this shithole. Strikes get shit done, but no one's gonna do them. And if they do, they don't do it right.
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>>24447723
what the fuck is with you yanks and your whole tipping policy anyway?

it's the job of your boss to pay you not me
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>>24449119
>Good luck to the bosses running a restaurant with no wait staff. They'll have to put on buffets. It'd be awful.
That's the most American sentence I've ever read.
>>24449140
And do you know that I was describing to anon why it is that people feel entitled both to give and to be given tips, and that that is the reason?
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>>24449095
Next to nothing. I work part time, around 15-20 hours a week, and my bi-monthly paycheck is around 80-100 dollars depending on how much I get tipped in that time.

So I guess you could say around $2-3 an hour?

I don't even pay attention to it desu, I make much more in cash.
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>>24449186
Damn. Hypothetically, what would happen if you were never tipped for an entire pay period? As in, you were never tipped, but your coworkers were? And what happens if no one was tipped?
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>>24448310
>implying things are more valuable when rare.
>implying humans are things.
>not implying that everyone is unique and therefore ultimately valuable.

You didn't even try.
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>>24449186
>I make much more in cash.
Do you have to pay tax on earnings by tips?
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>>24449112
Did you read your own link?
firing the person gave them temporary bad PR
then the same evidence you used to make this point(slacktivists saying "man that's stupid," for what little that's even worth) showed that there are a large number of people who said they would eat there if she was hired back.
>the hashtag BoycottApplebees, which was used nearly 500 times on January 31st. A handful of Facebook comments threatening to boycott the chain were highlighted on The Daily Dot on February 1st
>Additionally, the staff members of Huffington Post Comedy launched an online petition stating that the signers would eat at an Applebees at least once in 2013 if Welch was rehired. It gained more than 5200 signatures in a day.
If you're going to take heed in the shallow link-clicking of retarded facebook goers, then you need to heed it both ways
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>>24449209
I would be paid the minimum wage. If the tips I receive, plus the minimum tip wage, do not equal federal minimum, the employer has to make up the difference.

http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

See that's the part that people dont realize. Waiters will ALWAYS make minimum wage, regardless of how shitty the tips are. It's why entitled cunts like OP reveal just how shitty people are. Do I get salty if I get a shitty/no tip? Sure. But I certainly don't victimize someone and post that shit online. Those people are cunts.
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>>24449229
Yes. It's still income earned so I am still required to pay taxes on it.

The catch is that theres no record in my restaurant for how much cash I am left in cash tips, so come tax day it is left to my discretion of how much I want to claim. I claim most if not all of my cash because I fear the IRS, but my coworkers typically only claim like 10-20% of it to cheat the system on their returns.
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Has anyone considered the possibility, that the customer meant that only U.S citizens tip, rather than only tipping U.S citizens?

The customer could have been from a country that doesn't have a tipping culture (France, Britain, Germany) and therefore didn't feel obliged to tip their server?
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>>24449062
Why don't you learn to read you fucking cock sucker?
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>>24449267
Fantastic.

To be clear to the SJWs- I'm not obligated to tip, I only tip if the waiter truly deserves it. Yes, it's tragic that waiters make shit pretips, but at the end of the day, they still make min wage. No one should feel bad about not tipping, the boss HAS to give out minimum wage anyway.
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>>24449062
Here.

>>24449061
>>24449267
>>24449310

Do you understand now you fucking retard?
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>>24447995
Woah! You're like, a bounty hunter! Can I go work with you and learn the ropes and end up being a bounty hunter myself? It's not like I have a better future than fries and retail anyway
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>>24449310
Speaking as a server, you are in no way obligated to tip. Most people do and it makes up the difference for us. Just write "I don't tip" on the little line though, most of us when we get $0 think that we fucked up somehow are we'll get a complaint to corporate and get written up.

If you write I don't tip, then we know that you just don't tip. ezpz
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>>24449351
Skiptracing and bounty hunting are two completely different things, and I don't skiptrace for a living, it's more of a hobby.
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>>24449224
>not implying that everyone is unique and therefore ultimately valuable.
LOL
normalfags are pretty much copy/pasted NPCs of one another

And chinks have have bred like rabbits until their value is in the shitter. Thats why they're able to be worked for a couple of dollars a day in huge factories and they don't think twice about murdering their own babies.
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>>24449373
We could make a team! And skiptrace fro a living!Q We would be like a detective duo
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>people calling doxxing "skiptracing"
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>>24447723
>I can't believe such ignorant people still exist in this day and age.
I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE IT'S NEARLY 2016
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