Who /dumb/ here?
>tfw can't get past basic derivatives in calculus 1
>>24420958
that shit is easy senpai
>thinking you're smart your whole life
>doing great in school without much effort
>go to uni
>drop out miserably
Well, it's better to think you've been stupid your whole life than to find out later.
you think thats bad? i was in the one-step-above-tards math class in 11th and 12th grade and i still barely passed high school
>>24420993
>>24420958
>tfw terrible at math but fantastic at everything else
Who else /doesn't understand stuff unless they get twice as much practice as anyone else/ here?
Who else /too lazy to get that practice/ here?
Who else /argumentative but stupid/ here?
>Someone blows you the fuck out in an argument
>Call your intelligence into question and call you mean names
>Close thread and cry
>>24421015
right here senpai
desu thinking I was smart as a kid and having my parents encourage that by calling me a "borderline genius" based on some kind of test they got done when I was fucking 6 or something has ruined me for life
I can't be happy being stupid and I know I'm stupid but at the same time I can't accept it
>>24421015
>argumentative but stupid
i feel that. i never have any sources or anything, and just keep talking until i'm right or the other person just gives up
>>24421029
>someone BTFOs you and accuses you of lacking basic reading comprehension
happens to me all the time
>close thread, disconnect internet, turn off computer
>just sit there in darkness for ~10 min
this happens all the time really
I guess they must be right and my reading comprehension sucks. fuck
I've grown up in a shithole surrounded by dumbcunts, so I have no idea whether I'm actually smart or not. rip Australia
>>24420958
>start learning programming
>simple python shit
>cant remember anything, fuck up everything
>>24421012
this
My brain just can't process math, and either way I put 0 effort into it.
>>24420958
you don't really have to "get" it, just memorize the mechanical formulation or if you have excel just know where to plug in the numbers
>>24421059
>said it happens all the time twice
I'm so fucking retarded
>>24421052
That makes you the loser of the discussion if you think you can "talk it right" without having sources or the other one gives up because they know you won't shut the fuck up.
>>24421052
I just don't understand why people have to be so aggressive and mean in arguments. It's like they only care about winning instead of getting to the bottom of the issue.
Well, if you've given it honest effort and still couldn't do it, just realize you're stupid and go do something else. Don't keep trying. "You can make it if you try!" is pretty much on the same level as "just be yourself." Not everyone can be a doctor or lawyer, although a lot of people think they can.
If you haven't given it honest effort either because you're lazy or get distracted or have other problems, you should stop thinking that's not as serious as not being able to do it because you're stupid because you might be able to start trying one day and basically, you're fucked
>>24421087
You have ADHD, Anon. If you took Adderall this would go away and you would be able to retain information quite well.
>>24421141
the way I see it, people who are genuinely intelligent have to deal with dumbfucks like me on a daily basis, who don't get things unless you explain it 3 times over. they may act polite in real life but really they're wishing you were euthanized, and that comes out on the internet
If I'm taking AP Physics and I'm far behind, but only because I don't apply myself at all and don't do the homework, does that make me dumb?
I learned calculus during the past year, as a NEET, despite having an IQ of only 110. But it kills me that there are people who didn't put any effort in their studies and grok the material better.
>take ASVAB test
>only got an 87
>everyone else who is remotely smart gets an 90 or higher
>>24421267
>ASVAB
why would you do that to yourself anon
>>24421215
According to this board you're not smart unless you're studying pure mathematics ans doing well at it
>>24421287
So only 0.001 percent of the population is smart.
>>24421276
Because the military is easy and I felt bad for being a NEET and hurting my parents financially
>can code and deal with formulas and shit perfectly
>can't deal with simple algebra that uses bullshit values that don't mean anything but they are an "important" part of my course
WAKE ME UP
I CAN'T WAKE UP
SAVE ME
>>24421267
Coop?
>Take an IQ test online
>Give up halfway through because the questions seem harder and I'm fretting about being too stupid to answer them
>My heart is racing
>Not sure if this is because I'm stupid or anxious
>>24421334
gordon?
Who /short bursts of energy resulting in A's on exams and papers and then bouts of uselessness resulting in D's and F's/ here?
>>24421215
If you keep being lazy and excuse your bad grades by telling yourself you can always do better (like I did right up until senior year of college), it doesn't matter. All that matters is performance at the end of the day and no one cares about your innate potential or whatever.
>>24421337
>>Take an IQ test online
Why are people this stupid allowed to browse 4chan? Fucking hell.
>>24421337
don't worry about it bro, online tests are bullshit. IQ tests absolutely must be administered in person by trained professionals, so they don't count
>>24421302
>tfw this is true but for different reasons
>>24421361
I basically get either As or Fs.
>>24421302
>i'm incapable of deriving logical conclusions from basic rules but i'm still smart because i memorized trig formulas better than everyone at my junior high
>>24421352
Cooper?
>>24421369
I wasn't taking it seriously, genius. There was an /ironic/ thread on /r9k/.
>Bought a book on algebra and trig
>Can't get past chapter 1
>>24420958
I have a hard time with Calc too. For some reason related rates problems make a lot more sense to me though. I can only understand this stuff if I have an example to work with.
Is there any decent IQ test on the internet ? I was your average le smart but lazy :^) meme guy in high school and without studying shit I did better than people who were trying their hardest.
I also did a lot of SSRI's, smoked week, now I'm in college and I drink almost everyday, the problem is I can't focus for shit.
Anytime I try to focus I get lightheaded, almost passed out at a test for trying to hard. I feel like a retard now, fuck this gay earth, I can't be normie level stupid, even they won't fail this hard in college because they are motivated to study 5+ hours straight, I try my hardest everyday not to kill myself.
Help, robots, this might be the end of me, I just want to know if I'm retarded at this moment.
>19yo
>dont know what result comes out from 1 2/4 + 3 1/3
>started programming year ago
>it was pascal
>LITERALLY the basic language
>1 month of theory and little to none practice in classes
>fail up at some of the easiest excercises
>buddy already knows C++
>i understood only one thing - i dont feel joy from programming and dont find myself working this as a job
>give up
>fuck my life
and i thought they were gonna teach me how to make games, web sites, useful apps
>>24421522
I'm only a senior in HS but ever since Junior year after I was taken off SSRI my motivation plummeted into oblivion and I just can't focus on anything at all. I'm not even planning on going to uni currently because I just have no desire or will too. I think I've somehow been fucked in the head by the fucking medication; I'm just started to really lose the weight I had packed on a few months ago. Please someone WAKE ME UP
>>24421559
>and i thought they were gonna teach me how to make games, web sites, useful apps
>>24420978
Same here. I thought I was good at something for once in my life. Started going to uni for physics major. Fail miserably.
I guess I'm actually good at nothing. Why even live?
>>24421113
You must lack basic reading comprehension.
>>24421572
>le wake up meme when you were born in 2009 and thus don't know what it refers to
>>24421559
This image makes me really sad for some reason. Is it like when papa pepe first finds his sons body after he kills himself?
>>24421559
Isn't it just 4 5/6?
Because you simplify 2/4 into 1/2 then find the common denominator of 2 and 3 so that's 6 and you change 1/2 into 3/6 and 1/3 into 2/ or get 5/6.
>>24421615
>le ebin ageist meme
>>24421615
What does it refer to, gayboy ? Enlighten us.
>>24420978
It's pretty much been the opposite for me.
I never thought highly of myself, I had bad grades at school (then again I also barely ever did any schoolwork) and now at uni, I'm in the top percentile.
>>24421625
>Is it like when papa pepe first finds his sons body after he kills himself?
yes
>>24421626
have no idea, i just avoid this shit everywhere at maths. or use calculator
>>24420958
>tfw I don't know how basic derivatives looks like and I have 35 years
Everybodys brain can process math you fucking morons. You just haven't been taught how to study it. You have to use certain techniques.
Im a math professor who is also a robot. Who wants some math help? OP?
>>24421648
there's no way you don't have more working memory than the average failure NEET
>>24421648
What are those techniques?
Just memorize all the definitions in a generalized sense, right?
>>24421641
Honestly basic math is just stuff you have to brush up on for a little bit and you'll remember it, not doing stuff like that in 7+ years takes a few minutes to remember because you're not doing it often. That's common for most people that they don't remember
>>24421648
>shit at math
>still dont want to get helped
sorry, i pass
>>24421648
If you only teach upper division classes you might have forgotten how stupid people are. If you teach vocational/intro shit then I dunno.
>>24421669
>tfw memorize stuff only youre interested in
>interested part takes only 10% of whole information heard or seen
i dont think i deserved to be born
>>24421648
explain quadratics to me
help
>>24421648
I can assure you that mine can't or at least requires a lot more effort in order to process math because first, I can't focus for shit and second, the next day I will have forgotten almost everything that I had learned during the previous day.
What now, mr professor robot ? Is it over, can I finally kill myself ?
>>24421648
why the fuck does it take me so long to write proofs on exams and such? I don't even know how to practice this alone when most of the time there aren't solutions and I don't know if my proof is correct or not
>>24421663
No. The technique is to go back to the very fucking beginning. Way before derivatives. Make sure you understand EVERY basic concept intuitively and clearly. Real numbers, functions, limits, etc. Then you learn calculus again.
This time, when you go to learn calculus, go SLOW and THINK about the concepts. You aren't just memorizing formulas. You are understanding ideas that are expressed as formulas.
What I'm trying to say is: dont' just memorize the definitin of the derivative. Instead, learn what the derivative does intuitively and use the definition as a way to apply your intuition.
Dont forget. Go SLOW. You have to veryify every little detail in your mind as you read it.
>>24421559
The 1 2/4 + 3 1/3 bit isn't hard with a bit of practice.
1 = 4/4
therefore 1 2/4 = 4/4 + 2/4 = 6/4 = 3/2
3 = 9/3
therefore 3 1/3 = 9/3 + 1/3 = 10/3
To add the fractions, they need to be over the same denominator
In this case, 6 is the lowest common factor of the denominators 2 and 3 (2*3 = 6)
To make the denominator of 3/2 6, you multiply top and bottom by 3 (you could say that you're multiplying one fraction by the denominator of the other fraction)
3 * 3/2 = 9/6
To make the denominator of 10/3 6, you multiply top and bottom by 2 (because the denominator of the other fraction is 2, if you like)
2 * 10/3 = 20/6
In the end, 1 2/4 + 3 1/3 = 9/6 + 20/6 = 29/6
(Yes, you could cancel 2/4 down to 1/2 at the start, but the end result isn't different)
And the whole programming thing isn't your fault, it sounds like the structure of the course is slowing down your practical learning.
>>24420978
holy shit.
my whole life I thought I was some kind of genius in math, participated in various contests, even won many of them, was best at my school without any doubt and didn't even put much effort in to learning.
and here I am, in uni, fucked and keked completely, worst fucking student in the group. I wonder is it because I'm actually a retard or because of mega procrastination that hit me because of easy student life?
I Am a Dinosaur
Don't Make me Sad
IAD
DMS
INTEGRATION: ADD one to the power, DIVIDE the coefficient by the power
DIFFERENTIATION: MULTIPLY the coefficient by the power, SUBTRACT one from the power.
I couldn't find any good mnemonics for my basic calc exam, so I made up my own. You can use it if you want
>Be very smart in high school and university.
>Graduate and start full time wage slave job.
>Become dumber by the day.
>>24421739
who the fuck asked you? he doesn't give a fuck you retard
>>24421743
I had something kind of similar happen. Ended up getting diagnosed with an executive functioning disorder.
>>24421739
Oh, and like that other Anon said, 29/6 is 4 5/6
You see how many 6s go in 29, which is 4 (4*6 = 24)
After that you're still left with 5, so 29/6 is 4 remainder 5/6
>>24421722
I have trouble UNDERSTANDING calculus, not applying it.
Why is dx2/dx defined as 2x?
>>24421750
Why can't you just memorize it normally?
>>24421770
Calm down, m8. I was kinda refreshing my own memory because I usually use a calculator for this stuff.
Maybe I'm not as dumb as I thought as long as I don't throw fits over people talking about arithmetic.
>>24421739
thats a lot of shit to read and understand. i can use calculator instead lmao
>And the whole programming thing isn't your fault, it sounds like the structure of the course is slowing down your practical learning.
its my fault. it is my need to practice coding at home or wherever the fuck i want. teachers/whatever are only teaching you theory and showing some basic examples. i couldnt do the coding excersices my self, i had to re-write from somewhere, just like mechanised robot, without using any brains
>>24421799
I always had trouble memorizing the orders.
I just assumed other people did as well.
But with mnemonics, even someone like me who struggles with that could pass the exam.
>>24420978
I thought I was a whiz at History in high school
got into college, turns out I shouldn't have gauged myself based on other students.
>>24421799
because if you look at the function x^2, then the rate of change at any one point is 2x
so when x is 50, y is changing at 100 per x. when x is 2, it is changing at 4 per x.
didn't you learn calculus from first principles? if you just draw on a line on the function x^2 at any one point to represent the slope at that point, the gradient is 2x
look up calculus from first principles if you weren't taught taht
>>24420958
study harder
>>24421522
As long as you keep in mind the controversies and limitations of IQ tests, here's a decent culture-neutral one that focuses solely on pattern recognition and brain processing power
http://iqtest.dk/main.swf
100 is plain average, 50th percentile, top of the bell curve shit.
Obviously, this doesn't measure verbal ability at all. Measuring verbal ability is not culture-neutral. However, the test measures exactly the kind of shit you use in programming and IT shit (especially), high-level math where you construct and manipulate your own formulas, other shit that is applicable to most hard science and engineering.
Keep in mind that people might game this shit either up or down by studying resources on Raven's progressive matrices, running the test until they save most of the questions and then going elsewhere to solve them and then coming back to get a high score...it might be negatively skewed due to retards derpclicking through the whole thing in 2m to check if it's real, etc.
Take it with a grain of salt, the number it gives you is just an approximation, you're really checking whether your brain just "clicks" with the problem presented to you and sees an obvious solution sooner or later (within the time limit, of course)
pic unrelated
>>24421869
I also know that.
I am asking for a generalized definition that doesn't involve drawing shit.
>Reading pages of theory for physics
>After a while, realise I'm moving my eyes across sentences without actually reading them
>If I reach a hard part, I'll stop reading to get my head around it but I end up just daydreaming
>>24421799
>Why is dx2/dx defined as 2x?
it's not. That's not even a valid expression.
>>24421799
Visualize a square with adjustable side length and one corner on the origin. As you vary the length of a side the area scales as the square of side length. Think about what happens as you increase side length: The area you add is however much you extended side length along one axis times the total length along the other axis. Times two because there are two sides you're extending that each increase.
You can generalize this to see the same thing for x to any power: There are x sides extending each multiplied by x-1 other sides.
>>24421900
you mean a formula?
d/dx x^n = nx^(n-1)
>>24421900
Take the definition of the derivative and plug in f(x) = x^2.
>>24421916
The differential operator is "d/dx".
Applying it to a formula y(x) is perfectly valid, leaving us with "d/dx y(x)", right? That is the same as "dy(x)/dx".
Now if you define y(x)=x^2 and you substitute the "y(x)" in "dy(x)/dx" you get d(x^2)/dx, which apparently is defined as 2x, for some reason.
>>24421943
>>24422014
That doesn't mean a thing.
That's like saying x = x, senpai.
I want a proof for that formula that isn't a graphical one.
>>24420958
Did you try reading your textbook? Your lecturer isn't going to hold your hand.
who /great at math/ here?
>>24421935
i noticed i used pretty retarded notation. x^y is generalized like that because there are y sides that add volume proportional to the product of the other y-1 sides. if you want to visualize this it's just the same thing in higher dimensions. if you don't just realize that if you have x * x * x ... and you increase each of those x's by a small amount the total you've increased their product is that amount times the rest of the x's and you do this once for each x.
>>24420958
>can't understand derivatives
because you skipped the homework where you plug expressions directly into the definition of the derivative
>>24421900
Well, you can caculate those derivatives with the actual definition of the derivative. It surprises me that the supposed math professor didn't propose that.
Take the difference quotient which is defined as the limit for h->0 of (f(x+h)-f(x))/h.
If you do not understand this formula, you have no chance at actually understanding differential calculus
>>24421898
I get anxious just when I hear that brain clicking expression, that's exactly what doesn't happen anymore for me. Things I used to do naturally are starting to become less and less frequent, I'm actually starting to forget how to express ideas correctly in both English and my native language. I feel like my brain is slowly becoming dumber and dumber exactly when I need it the most. Anyone else experiencing this ?
>>24420978
Story of every 4chan poster i've met.
Everyone thinks they're some sort of genius, with nothing to show for it.
>tfw I flunked algebra twice
>>24422045
derivative notation is just shorthand for this piece of shit tbqh
>>24421052
You are a blight upon rational discourse and are one of the biggest problems that contributes to the lowest form of public dialogue. I hope you're proud of yourself.
>>24421215
Laziness is part of intelligence
A "smart but lazy" person is highly motivated in other areas of life they're interested in.
>>24421559
1.5 + 3.33 = 4.83
whats so hard about that
>>24421215
Yes it makes you dumb. If you consider yourself "smart but lazy" like 50% of all failures, you are dumb. Smart people understand time management and task prioritization and actually put them into practice.
>>24422149
Oh.
This makes sense, I get it.
Seeing it like this makes the entire thing look completely obvious.
>>24421418
Do problems from the end of the chapter. Seriously. Why do young stemfaggots all so convinced think that math is supposed something you're meant to understand just by reading it? Do fucking problems.
Yes, I know it takes forever to do that, guess what, mathematicians are mostly lonely nerds who stay inside as long as it takes to figure the shit out, it's not some movie montage where you have a eureka moment, solve the problem by the end of the night then go bang stacy. It's hard fucking work
>>24421559
But anon, what they were teaching you was valuable. A shame you couldn't be bothered to learn it.
>>24422166
People say I'm smart but lazy. Tbh I'm just a retarded inbred mongoloid. Not the anon you were replying to btw.
>>24420958
>tfw I was so mentally unstable in high school they put me in classes with the 'special kids'
>Get meds right before university
>icandothis.jpg
>Top of my class in nigh everything, or at least second-best in some.
>"wow anon, you're going to go places" said the teacher
>mental breakdown
>drop out of university after two years
Guess it's a kind of /dumb/ since I'll end up either like my mentally unstable brother living on NEETbux, or flipping burgers my whole life. Pretty much unwillingly following the path my brother did during his decline too who was the renowned genius in the family.
>>24422199
this is kind of stupid desu senpai.
it turns smart into an action. like if you suddenly took einstein and da vinci and just put them in a room where they weren't allowed to do anything, you can now say they aren't smart.
some of the le smart but lazy people are actually smart, while others just use it as a shield from having to try and thus having to realize they aren't smart, without realizing
that said senpai post your best time management strategies if you're so smart
>>24422209
People say im smart but lazy too.
However, I'm 21 in my 2nd year of grad school, so the statement has its merits..
>>24421029
>>24421059
Lmao I'm taking pleasure in the fact that me trolling all your dumb beta nerds is literally bringing you to tears
>>24421559
>not knowing what 1 2/4 + 3 1/3 equals
Holy shit anon I thought I was retarded but you just bring this shit to a whole new level
>>24422203
OP what exactly are you having trouble understanding?
If we knew what part you didn't understand it would make it much easier to explain
>>24422228
No they're talking about intelligent people who make correct arguments they can't refute, not retards who spout memes until people ignore them.
>>24422111
Do you drink or smoke weed a lot? My high school friend experienced something similar - I personally witnessed his decline as he went from speaking poetically and being the most charismatic member of our D&D group to being a full blown schizo who mumbles incomprehensibly 90% of the time. Scary shit, but I'm in another country now and left it all behind
I'm a programmer by trade, "brain clicks" is exactly what you want when you're dealing with problems or other people's code you haven't seen before. I'd say it's even more important than memorization. "I know how to do this shit" v. "I know what this shit does." CPU/RAM vs HDD? lol
A lot of the academic shit they teach in you in school focuses on being clever, which is a completely different kind of brain click than figuring out what the fuck another person was thinking when they wrote something. In school, they try to teach you how to handle a ferrari. In real life, you're in a moving truck, trying to figure out what's in the back while you're driving.
>>24422238
Honestly who the fuck even uses this notation outside of primary school?
Decimal would be nearly as bad but at least practical
Use "improper" fractions for fucks sake
me
>tfw only got a masters in math
>couldn't even get into a phd programme
>>24422241
I'm not OP and at this point?
Nothing, this >>24422149 explains everything perfectly.
>>24422263
oh okay, i thought you were being sarcastic
>passed differential equations II with 60%
>incapable of understanding concepts, only managed to scrape by with rote memorization
>one year later, don't remember a single thing from that class, or any other class
>tfw dumb and lazy
just...
>>24422225
Eh, I'm 22 and got an IT job from a small company. It mainly just requires me to occasionally install software for the computers and most the time I just sit around in my office and shitpost here. My boss even knows(well, about 4chan, not the r9k part) and he doesn't mind. All he cares is that I get the work done when it needs to be done, and if there's no work to do I get to fuck off and do whatever I want. I make 5k a month btw.
>>24422208
>Do problems from the end of the chapter.
You think I don't?
>Why do young stemfaggots
I'm 25.
>all so convinced think that math is supposed something you're meant to understand just by reading it? Do fucking problems.
Doesn't help when you can't remember what you learned, even with doing the problems.
>>24422257
Nobody uses it out of primary school, but that stuff is just super fucking simple
>>24422287
so you have a joke job that lets you bludge, and this is the same as being a 2nd year grad student at 21?
>>24421900
>>24422045
>I want a proof for that formula that isn't a graphical one
Remember from grade school that slope = rise/run ?
Derivative is essentially slope, as the "run" gets infinitely small
Read this page and see what happens when you plug expressions into the actual definition of the derivative.
>http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfDerivative.aspx
Guaranteed you had homework assignments to do this exact thing, likely as >>24422087 said, you skipped them or like many of my students wanted to be "Smart" and use the power rule
>>24422287
>$5k for pressing "OK" 3 times
is this really true? why the fuck am i wasting my money on an education?
>>24422279
Why would you think that, it's obvious if you look at it like this, isn't it?
>>24422311
Never did.
I literally saw this definition for the first time today.
>>24422308
oh shit, we got an academic elitist
hope you don't end up in new zealand with six degrees lol
math is ridiculous. it feels like less knowledge and more getting into an abstract state of mind suitable for solving math problems. I'm sure naturally gifted people just have that state of mind constantly and can therefore do well without much effort.
personally I can sometimes get into that state of mind, and sometimes I can't, which means grades and tests have always been some kind of wager for me, which means most of my degree is a kind of wager.. tough luck
>>24422339
It is obvious for me because I already knew, I thought it would be a bit harder for someone with little knowledge to understand it immediately
Do you understand how he got that formula?
>>24422326
lol it's a little more complicated, but it doesn't require a college education, so that means no student loans to pay off. But you kinda have to familiarize yourself with the software and such, and the bugs that come with it.
>>24422222
Intelligence means nothing if you don't do anything with it. If a smart person has the capacity for learning but consciously squanders their talents and puts no effort into understanding, are they actually smart? If a business savvy entrepreneur knowingly passes up lucrative opportunities and deals, are they actually as savvy as they think?
>>24422308
No. I never went to college. The job didn't require it. Plus going to college for me would be an outrageous waste of money.
>>24422345
Holy fuck this makes me so angry
>>24422345
>>24422308
That wasn't me, however, that was my thought when I read "IT". Almost everyone I know in IT thinks they're a genius.
>>24422345
the guy in that picture is a dick but he's right.
I don't know why you even posted about your job as if this was some kind of one-up to the other guy
you lucked out in taking advantage of stupidity, what he did took a hell of a lot more effort and intelligence
>>24422222
Fucking czech't x 10000
>>24422345
this guy is a teacher? I wouldn't even be mad at that because the second you reported the email he'd be toast
>>24422388
>Intelligence means nothing if you don't do anything with it.
Ok. But you weren't arguing that, you were trying to shift the definition of intelligence to include what you do with it. You're basically just playing semantic games in an attempt to manipulate connotation like 'multiple intelligences' fags.
>>24422388
>If a business savvy entrepreneur knowingly passes up lucrative opportunities and deals, are they actually as savvy as they think?
That depends on whether they did it because they're lazy or because they were too stupid to know they were lucrative opportunities and deals.
The epitome of laziness would be having the best idea in the world but not wanting to act on it in the slightest because it requires getting up from the couch.
I understand that you're angry at le smart and lazy people who aren't actually smart, which is most of them, but that doesn't mean intelligence has anything to do with laziness
>>24422388
>didn't post his best time management strategies
well fuck you too senpai
>>24421311
>Cant do basic algorithms
>Becoming programmer
fucking kek
>>24422296
Then do more problems, look up more explanations from other sources online, until you understand it.
Now you may be thinking "what's the point if I have to do so much work every time I learn something new" but the act of learning these concepts will make you better at learning new ones in the future as well. i.e. you become better at learning. so don't give up
>>24421691
What grade/year level of quadratics, what do you need help with?
>>24422345
I bet Dr Spacy, PhD, M.D., Knight's Order First Class, Professor Emeritus Havard, RMIT, Oxford, Standford was just a lonely beta who wanted to prove himself, and he did so.
So he wants to make sure all the chad students treat him with respect while he walks all over them.
>>24422462
This desu
Coming up with algorithms is far more important to a computer scientist than writing the code for them
>>24422222
>einstein and da vinci and just put them in a room where they weren't allowed to do anything, you can now say they aren't smart.
they could talk and share ideas
>>24422339
>I literally saw this definition for the first time today.
I dont' know what kind of calculus you're taking then
>>24422470
I've been doing that. If I can't even self teach myself algebra, then there's no chance of anything more. Thanks for the advice anon, but it's too late for me.
>>24422497
Well you don't really need to know that formula to do calculus
It is just a waste of time
Still nice to know though
>>24422311
>slope = rise/run
>from grade school
what the fuck?
in what southeast asian country?
>>24422345
>>24422345
Why doess this make people upset? He obviously earned his title, something overprivileged disrespectful twats can't comprehend.
>Oh no, he wants respect for what he's done.
Sure, he didn't have to do that, but there is nothing wrong with doing it.
I feel like I'm an idiot. I was IQ tested earlier this year (by an actual doctor) and I scored in the "Very Superior Intelligence" range. But I dropped out of college and I now have a job in retail. And it seems like I struggle with the most basic tasks. Here are things I have a really hard time doing:
>terrible at cracking eggs, sometimes the shell gets in the pan and usually the egg whites go everywhere
>can't shave, with a manual razor i often cut myself and miss spots, and with an electric i just never get all the hairs or even close to all of them
>don't know how to load a dishwasher, it seems like i always put the plates in awkward positions
>i really suck at hanging clothes on a hanger, they usually fall off
>suck at cleaning things, i never know what to use (soap? some chemical?) and how much of it to spray, i always get water everywhere
>don't know how to open a roll of coins, i kind of just tear at it for some time until i can get them out
>when i'm working the cash register, and i put in the amount, and when the customers says "oh wait take this change too", i really struggle with calculating how much to give them back. it's really simple math but for some reason my mind just seems to shut off
>don't know how to bag groceries or space out the items well, especially when it comes to cereal boxes
>suck at parking my car in a parking space, often have to back up and try again
>>24422560
he should just have said he prefers to be called doctor, instead he forces his life story on some undergrad kid.
that kid could have felt like killing himself
>>24422483
It gets better
after that email made the rounds, he wrote a personal essay on depression and cyberbullying
https://www.srl.to/u5e2dNha/Crab%20Mentality,%20Cyberbullying%20and%20Name%20and%20Shame%20Rankings.pdf
he's now suing that school for $2M because of emotional distress
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11458573
>>24422558
in american school you learn about linear functions in grade 7
>>24422590
isn't that middle school
>>24422581
>life story
He just explained why he is justified in being called doctor and how much work went into it.
What do you mean the student felt like killing himself? I don't see how you could get that from this situation
I don't get cuadratic functions.
i had a exam where I had to draw two functions that looked something like pic related. I drew them in 3d but it turns out they were actually 2d. I got a 0/100. how am I supposed to tell the difference?
maybe I'm retarded
>>24422588
FUCKING KEK
Is this guy actually autistic?
>>24420978
this so much. fuck growing up in a small town, everyone with a slightly above average intellect is treated like the next einstein and only set up for disappointment in college.
never had any issues in school, hardly had to learn. dropped out of college after 3 months. i'm going to try again, though.
>>24420958
Me too OP.
I'm struggling with programming as well, and it's not even C++, Java or machine language. It's easymode Python. Even first year students are ahead of me.
I should drop out and redo high school with the kiddies until I get it right.
>>24422362
It's obvious, because the derivative is defined as the slope of the tangent in a certain point, right?
So, the slope of a linear function is "dy/dx", right?
dy/dx is the same as (y(x+n)-y(x))/((x+n)-x), ok?
So this also applies to non-linear functions, as long as you're looking at it in a single point.
You can define this single point by having n go towards 0, right?
So you just put the y(x) into your (y(x+n)-y(x))/((x+n)-x).
If you take something like y(x) = 3x^2 + 5x - 6 or whatever you get (3(x+n)^2 + 5(x+n) - 6 - (3x^2 + 5x - 6))/((x+n)-x) and therefore y prime (x) = lim n -> 0 (3(x+n)^2 + 5(x+n) - 6 - (3x^2 + 5x - 6))/((x+n)-x)
The solution is trivial and left as exercise to the reader.
>>24422497
Last time I did calculus was in high school, this was probably mentioned, but I wasn't paying much attention in class back then.
>>24422676
I would have assumed this was in 3D as well
What the fuck is that z meant to be?
I think the question was just worded terribly
>>24422676
It's a relationship between x, y, and z. It should be 3. Unless they were telling you to fix z or something.
>>24422667
I'm just saying you don't know what kind of impact that pompous ownage could have on a student
if it was me personally I would feel like complete shit because I'm just struggling and I could never reach that level academically. it would make me want to come coming to lectures and drop out. and before trying my hand at school I was considering suicide
>>24422712
I guess you are just smarter than me
It took me a while to wrap my head around it
>>24422713
I pulled the image from google. the one I had to draw didn't have a Z so I assumed it was a constant value
>>24422368
how do i get IT job?what qualification do you have?
My parents still think i'm smart and except me to do well in university and get a good career.
I haven't told my dad that i dropped out of my first school and he thinks i'm doing my masters thesis now.
I'm in another university and there could be a chance that i could do well here but knowing me it seems unlikely.
>>24422256
Yeah, I've been drinking quite a lot, though I feel like SSRI's completely fucked my brain and now I feel somewhat high when I try to focus on things. I might also have ADHD or something.
Got 126 on that test, the last 5 ones were completely out of my league and probably the only ones that I failed considering that I didn't answer and I was almost 100% sure of the other ones.
Well, hope I'm at least at around 110 in reality and I'm not fully brain dead yet.
>>24422745
>I haven't told my dad that i dropped out of my first school and he thinks i'm doing my masters thesis now.
>>24422733
Nah, I'm an idiot.
It took me forever to see that dy/dx is the slope for a tangent of any function as long as you have the limit of n go towards 0.
>>24420978
>mfw this probably happened to all the dumb stacies and chads who didn't belong in AP classes and would argue with the teachers claiming they were giving too much work
>>24422726
>I would feel like complete shit because I'm just struggling and I could never reach that level academically.
What the fuck lol...
1. This is a private conversation.
2. The student now understands how seriously he takes his title, so he can reply with an apology, simple.
3. If someone's hard fucking work(I didn't just come, it meant hours upon hours of studying and hard work) makes you sad or depressed or whatever the fuck, you'd never make it regardless.
>>24422738
I mean that's your problem... if it only has x and y then it's only a relationship between those two things and they are the only dimensions. If it helps you're basically taking what you would draw for 3 and drawing a cross section of it.
>>24422745
>mom asks for my results from exams every fucking time she has a chance to say a single word to me
>pretty sure I did shit, waiting for the confirmation
>don't want to tell her when I get them
>because she's either going to brag to her normie friends about how good she thinks I am when I'm not, or she's going to get disappointed and annoying as fuck even though she's never achieved anything in life
>>24422738
If it only had 2 variables then why would you assume it was in 3d?
But drawing quadratics is easy as fuck
Just either factorize it or use your quadratic formula to work out the roots, set x to 0 to find the y intercept then fill in the rest
>>24421559
heres my best shot
convert the mixed fractions into normal fractions. 4 * 1 = 4 + 2 = 6. so thats 6/4.
3*3=9 + 1=10. so thats 10/3
find the least common denominator so thats 12.
6*3=18
10*4=40
so nows its 18/12 + 40/12
40+18=58
58/12
divide each number by two
29/6
convert to mixed fraction
6 goes into 29 4 times. and theres an extra 5 left over
so thats 4 5/6. I think thats right
>>24422791
why does it being a private conversation matter? I don't care about other people witnessing, I care about what he's saying to me and what effect that has
he was a complete dick about it. he just needed to say that he wants to be called doctor. if the student ignored his wishes at that point the student would be the one being a dick, but this guy is just completely talking down to him
>>24422758
I'm supposed to have a masters degree from one of the best schools in my country this spring.
When i started the first one i was also considering the second one and he thought that one was good too but now i have no idea what he'll say. He was just pissed off and dissapointed in me my whole childhood but nowadays he's nice when he thinks i'm doing well.
My grandmother lives in the same city as him and is nicer, it'll be easier to tell her first.
It would be easiest if my dad would just now give a fuck.
>thread about 'dumb' people
>HURR DURR I WENT TO COLLEGE BUT I WAS TOO LAZY
If you suck at math, you might not be dumb. You might have a high verbal intelligence, but a low spatial intelligence. Its not that uncommon.
>>24422744
>how do i get IT job
be brown
have an outsource agency inflate your resume with key buzzwords and unverifiable work experience
be willing to work for $4/hour local or $12/hour flown-in
win the H1-B lottery as one of literally hundreds just like you
profit
haul your 20-man extended family to America or Europe via arranged marriages or human rights legislation loopholes
ez pz desu senpai
>>24422844
Most people are dumb at maths
The ones who stick with it and practice are the ones who are good at it
Hard work beats natural intelligence 99% of the time
>>24422814
this was in the notes I used to study
>>24422823
>why does it being a private conversation matter? I don't care about other people witnessing, I care about what he's saying to me and what effect that has
I only mentioned it being private because I literally see no other reason for feeling bad about that email. You didn't understand the value of something, now you do, whats the damn issue?
>he was a complete dick about it
So? Did he lie? No. He can explain it in any manner that he wants. Everyone doesn't have to be nice 24/7. He didn't lower your grade or anything. Just apologize.
>but this guy is just completely talking down to him
>laying accomplishments bare = talking down
>Doesn't understand the concept of earned respect
>>24422893
That hurts my brain
What the fuck are a^2 and b^2 meant to be?
>>24422902
you're just being needlessly contrarian. I'm pretty sure everyone else views it as being a dick, and if that's the thing his language communicates to the majority of people, he should be more careful.
>>24422920
distance from the center of the figure I guess. Maybe the notes I used are all the wrong. does anyone have any good articles or sites with the right definitions?
>>24422880
fuck off, someone serious reply
>>24420958
It's the slope
>>24422920
major and minor radius of the cylinder.
for a circular cylinder, a=b.
>>24422884
Intelligence does not compete with work. Intelligence is there to make sure you don't need to work as much in order to understand things. Once you get to college you start to realize how much intelligence actually affects your life, if you're simply stupid you might fail classes regardless of how much effort you put into studying or you reach the point where the amount of effort you have to put in is just ridiculous and not worth it.
>>24422963
>>24422979
Well why the fuck are we talking about cylinders and 3d objects?
I thought you were having problems with quadratics
>>24420958
If you figure out what the formula in >>24422149 states derivatives are trivial exercises to pass the time.
>>24422979
but why is it 3d if it only has 2 variables?
can someone explain this to me because I must be a total retard
>>24422953
>contrarian
How understanding and handling a situation correctly contrarian? I acknowledged the guy was being a dick, however its no big deal. Go to any school with respected academics and they all act the same way. Grow the fuck up.
>I'm pretty sure everyone else
Appeal to majority. Woman.
>He should be more careful
Matter of opinion.
Alright, I dont want to talk about this anymore. You get last word.
failed linear algebra twice,
tried my best on the second try; did alright with tests and assignments.
once the exam came around the questions were different and i had no idea what i was doing :/.
dropped out uni for a full year. coming back next year though...
>>24422920
>What the fuck are a^2 and b^2 meant to be?
The constant in a format where you can directly see how it distorts things. If x is divided by three before you start squaring it and shit then you take the curve and just stretch it by a factor of 3.
>>24423003
because you only need a single variable to define a circle if you don't worry about where the circle is positioned. that's the radius, or if you like, the circumference instead. draw a straight line. then draw two curves connecting it to a circle
the length of that line is only one variable, and with it you can create any size circle.
you add one more variable, and it becomes 3d. so that's why it's only two
>>24423020
Well how is he meant to solve it without knowing the constants?
>>24420958
>cant decide if too depressed to do anything or just stupid
>>24422345
all these butt blasted normies.
also
>I bet that guy is a hkv in his 50s hurting Chad's and whore's feels by sending these emails
>>24423008
it isn't understanding and handling a situation correctly because he answered in way that most people would find offensive. if you acknowledge he's being a dick, then we have no argument because that's all I was saying.
handling the situation correctly would have been handling it without being a dick
>Go to any school with respected academics and they all act the same way
I must have never went to a school with respected academics then
>>24422844
>spatial intelligence
What's that?
And how is verbal intelligence even useful?
>>24423072
>how is verbal intelligence even useful
shakespeare
>>24423060
Depression is a myth, perpetuated by stimulant-using, approval-seeking overachievers
>>24423088
Shakespeare is a hack tho.
The English language is very limited as far as poetic expression goes, due to the extremely simple grammar and low number of words.
>>24423072
>And how is verbal intelligence even useful?
law
>>24423096
nice meme
filler text001
>>24423108
>anon succeeds in creating the worst bait in years, not a single bite
>>24423038
I don't understand what you're asking. There's some basic curve defined by x^2 - y^2 = c or whatever. They're just saying that if you have (x/a)^2 - (x/b)^2 = c that you can find the new curve by stretching the old one by a and b. You can convert any constant x^2 and y^2 are multiplied by into that format, they're just showing the most convenient one if you're drawing curves.
>>24423122
How can you not see how pathetic English is as far as languages go?
Some of the best English prose was written by Russians
>>24423122
>a lot of people say x is really good
>x must be really good
explain, in your opinion, why shakespeare is so good
>>24423108
>Shakespeare is a hack tho.
epic.
[insert your favorite video game story here], then. or whatever other non-STEM shit you enjoy.
english grammar is actually complex and its word count is obscene compared to most languages
>tfw going to go to a bullshit art school because art is all I'm good at
>would stay NEET, but I'm too lazy/nervous to get a job, so I have to go to school to avoid getting kicked out of comfy home
>the art shit will lead nowhere because it's a scammy art institute place, doubt it'll land a real art career
>the place is an hour from home, so I'll have to live in a shitty dorm only to get back to my comfy apartment on weekends
>don't have a licence either, will have to rely on family to get back to comfy zone
God fucking damn. I wouldn't do any of this if it weren't for my parents saying "you have to be a real person anon".
>mfw calculus is the only course keeping me from completing my AA
I could easily enroll in pre-calc, trig, or some liberal arts trash, but, for me, its just a point of pride. I feel anyone completing their second year should have, at least, a basic understanding of differentiation and integration.
I'll be enrolling for my second go in the spring.
>tfw can't even get an A in algebraic topology
>>24423108
but english has the most words of any language.
>>24423108
>I have nothing to do but write down the ongoings of the social elite, so that others can pretend to be them in a closed setting while having no actual effect on reality
>finish first semester
>still can't php and css
>tfw I passed my major because of written exams, quizzes, and recitations and flunked most of my practical exams and quizzes
>tfw will probably flunk java prog. for next semester again
>>24423173
good. I wish all people who tried besides me would fail
>>24421632
Sitting here thinking... "it's just lyrics to a fuckinig song what is this guy on about?"
literally googled wake me up meme.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wake-me-up-inside-can-t-wake-up
It's just fucking song lyrics.
>>24423108
INTERNET TROLLS HATE HIM
Is anyone /actually stupid/ here?
As in no humblebragging betanorms going on about not doing well in their high level classes
>tfw failed algebra in highschool 3 times
My mother is borderline retarded and should have never been allowed to breed just typing this post I'm getting angry about it.
If I was a normalfag I could at least live out the rest of my days happily oblivious to everything as a factory drone or construction worker, but NO I have to be socially fucked as well and shit myself from eye contact and a greeting.
I hate this world and want everyone to die.
>>24423200
why is Google interested in discerning a cactus from other objects
what kind of fucking robots are they even building. Do people even stop and think before they solve these captchas
>>24423108
>reading Shakespeare for plot
ISHYGDDT
>>24423003
they should have 3 variables. The second equation should be x^2 + y^2 = r^2
>>24423194
but why would someone born in 2012 know those song lyrics? they wouldn't. they don't understand how meme they were
they would just see the meme being used by all their epic imageboard friends, and copy it.
if you were born that late you're pretty much permanently underage and there's no getting around the fact that you're a faggot
>>24423145
As far as "stories" go, I'd have to go with Master and Margarita, I can't really judge its prose, since I don't know Russian.
English grammar is extremely simplistic, anything that doesn't have a case system isn't even worth talking about as far as complexity goes.
English does have a very elaborate system for time reference in place, though.
>>24423156
English has very few words in general usage.
Think about it this way: Why is there so much nuance in the English language? Because there are not enough words to express yourself literally.
>>24423237
>reading English for prose
>>24423072
Spatial intelligence is what it sounds like: at its basic level its about how well you can put together shapes and rotate shapes in your mind. In an IQ test, they will often give you a bunch of blocks with markings on them, then show you a picture, and you have to arrange the blocks to match the picture.
I have a lot spatial IQ, so its actually very difficult. There were some where I just plain gave up because I felt like I was incapable of processing exactly how the rotate and arrange the blocks.
Of course, this spatial IQ effects a lot of things, from math, architecture, manual tasks, etc. A lot of people with Aspergers have very high verbal IQs but rather low spatial IQs, which is why they are very good at formal communication, memorization, cause/effect relationships and specific details. But very bad at things like advanced math and understanding abstract/imaginary concepts. Also why they suck at socializing because they approach it like they do anything else
>>24423257
*I have a low spatial IQ
>>24422576
None of that has to do with intelligence though. It's dexterity and how calm you can be in social/high pressure situations.
Not everything is about intelligence.
P.S. you break the coin roll in the middle by hitting it hard on a corner then tear it yourself.
>>24422745
You need to tell them as soon as possible
>>24423256
>goes on an elitist verbal knowledge rant after claiming verbal knowledge does not matter
>believes shakespeare is a hack because he thinks doing so will make him intelligent
>>24423255
>someone born in 2012
Why would a three year old be on 4chan?
And you don't have to be that old to remember this song, it was on the radio until at least 2009.
>>24421267
What are you going for lad? I got a 93, but I'm probably going army since I have a GED. I failed hard on the science portion also.
>>24423278
Yes, I can tell you how worthless verbal knowledge is, based on my own verbal knowledge.
>can pass math classes pretty well
>tfw chemistry rapes me inside and out
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT
WHY CAN I FUCKING FOLLOW UPPER LEVEL PHYSICS BUT CHEMISTRY 101 MIGHT AS WELL BE ARABIC TO ME CAUSE NOTHING MAKES SENSE
FUCK
CHEMISTRY
>>24423286
over ten years before he was born.
so, yes, he wouldn't know them
>>24423301
love this meme
>>24421722
I'm also a math prof; what do you do when you have students in a class that cannot even add fractions?
I don't know what to do with some of my students... I don't feel bad about failing them but at the same time I feel like I could be doing more
>>24423209
Humans are inherently unequal, deal with it. Some people have literally no useful or redeeming characteristics.
>>24423309
I'm just saying dude it's generally a very well known song. Who is it, evanescence? it's not like they aren't still around...
>>24423330
teach them as much as you can while you have them
>>24423330
give examples
>>24423160
I almost hate myself for replying to you, but congratulations, you know nothing of Shakespeare or his work. Your post to some extent describes what he intended to correct in his drama.have you even read him senpai? be honest.
>>24420978
I did the same when I was 18, then spent ~18 months working retail full time. Went back into another uni and I'm doing a-ok :)
You just need that kick up the arse
>>24423303
Iktfb, I'm fine with maths/physics stuff like analysis or thermo but those organic mechanisms fuck my shit up every time
>>24423303
How is chemistry difficult?
What are you having trouble with?
There's fundamentally two things in low level chemistry that are essential to understand, everything else is somewhat derived from those two or trivial:
Orbitals and Stoichiometry.
In Stoichiometry you need to understand how moles works, how to balance equations, how to calculate concentrations and basic algebra.
>>24423330
Let them pass.Some people are just too shit at math, theres nothing you can do
t.OP
>>24423331
Sorry but thats not good enough. I've suffered far too much and too long to just let it go at this point.
>>24423392
Just stop memorizing.
Be as lazy as you can afford.
Figure out what you have to memorize and what you can derive from other things.
>>24423372
>I added some satire too
by reading those plays, you are losing to the same people that he hated
>>24423405
>let them pass
no, this dilutes the quality of degrees. it punishes the people who actually know their shit. you shouldn't spend 4 years only to be told employers don't give a shit because your paper is worthless
if you can't learn it, get out of college.
>>24423400
I don't know senpai. The basics of it just get lost on me no matter how much I try to remember them and then everything is built upon those foundations. I feel like I understand physics because I can conceptualize things and draw a motion diagram or something if something's not making sense, but I just start reading about ions and charges and everything and I want to die cause it seems so fucking simple yet I can't ever grasp it.
>>24423428
My parents are forcing me.Plus it's biochemistry so calculus is useless.
>>24420958
>can't get past basic derivatives in calculus 1
You really should kill yourself, or go join some first world petty rights movement.
Please... don't procreate, you fucking swine.
