How's your study coming along? You making any progress?
>>24418864
Badly.
I don't have the patience for learning.
>>24418864
>nihongo
what do I winnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkekekeekkekeke
A bit. Becoming faster with better execution with playing the bass and doing better with sight reading bass cleft without needing to look at my fingers too much. Though I can't say I have had much hand movement up the frets so I hope I can expand where I place my hands going up and down while still not needing to look at where they are.
Also getting better with slap bass, but nowhere where I'd like to be.No I am not going to learn Japanese. Maybe Spanish if I push myself.
ware wa nippon
If anyone actually wants to learn languages in a non-shit way, I recommend Michel Thomas courses.
Search whatever torrent site you use for "Michel Thomas V3" and pick the folders for whatever languages you want.
Its very good for Latin-based and Germanic languages, i.e. languages of the civilized world. They have moonspeak chink and sandnigger courses too but I haven't tried them because I'm not a weeb.
Basically it actually trains you how to express your thoughts by letting you construct sentences, rather than just getting you to parrot back set phrases. This is easy for Latin and Germanic languages because English is a mixture of those languages and so has a lot of words in common which you can use as basic building blocks while learning the grammar.
But yeah there's no point in learning Japanese, at their rate of population decline its going to die out within a few generations anyway.
>learning japanese
Pic related
I've been enrolled in a Japanese language school in Chiba for about 8 months now. It's alright.
>>24418864
Atari maida!
>>24418864
I can't do it. I'm too stupid to ever be able to read or write an Asian language.
Dropped it and switched my major to save my GPA
What resources do you use? I want to go on a Japanese course in Japan.
>>24419199
>day
>book
>language
Wat, japanese people are crazy
>>24420873
>sun
>origin
>language
They are but not in this instance.
>>24420511
we are literally force to do it. Those weird fetish doujins aren't going to be translated anytime soon.
>>24420889
Off by one, but this doesn't excuse you for taking the bait.
>>24420912
Nothig to do with your hentai comics. But then again the less foreigners in china the better.
>>24420943
>off by one
What?
>>24418864
I tried some years ago. Kept it up for a little over a year, but I never got to that point where you start to just "get it" and things fit together in your mind. It never stopped being "I have to think about every single word very carefully" difficult. maybe I'm just not one of those people that has a thing for languages
>>24420951
There is literally no reason for me to live other than my primal desires. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those silly doujins.
>>24420962
>not knowing the tradition of acknowledging magical repeating numbers.
>>24420964
You literally can learn to read japanese in less than 6 months consistent practice. This implies you didn't even put an effort to it.
It's going pretty good for self study. I just do it for fun in my off time.. maybe an hour or so every other day. I've got all of my hiragana down and will be working on kanji and katakana soon. The difference I guess is that I'm doing this just strictly for fun/as a hobby and not with any real goal in mind and doing so makes it much more enjoyable and easier.
>>24418864
I passed JLPT1 in 2006.
I still feel like I know NOTHING.
>>24421000
or he could just be an idiot
What learning materials do you guys use?
>>24421106
the internethttp://www.guidetojapanese.org/grammar_guide.pdf
>>24421106
vidya james
>class in 3.5 hours
>can't sleep
>haven't studied
>might just ditch
>class only once a week
>didn't do homework
So... Not good I gusss
>>24421037
jlpt1 is the equivalent starting point for learning Japanese as an English person beginning to learn French
>>24421939
True, but it's almost been a decade. It feels like there's a shitton of words I don't know.
>>24422044
a decade without learning?
>>24422063
A decade of successive plateaux.
>Lecturer doesn't teach
>Constantly misses class or turns up late
>When he do shows up: He goes over 4-5 discrete math problems and calls it a day.
>The lesson is 3 hours long.
>He finishes in 1 and half hours.
>Exam is on December
>I don't know exactly what I'm studying.
>Watching Khan academy videos on Youtube on all the problems I have difficulties on.
Should I drop out and move to another university? 2/5 of my lecturers are a lazy sack of shit.
>>24418864
>Learning a language spoken by a single xenophobic country.
top laff
>>24422412
Yes, Swedish would have been a much better investment obviously.
>>24418864
Ecchi Shiyou
Yamete
Baka
Bakayaro
Senpai
Onee/Onii
Desu
Nani
Oppai
Doki Doki
Watashi
Sekaiichi
Arigatou
Itadakimasu
Temee
Sugoi
Tadaima
Moshi
Konichiwa
Egao
Shiranai
Nihongo ga wakarimasen
Odemeto
Yoi / Warui / Ma Ma
Kowai
Sumimasen
So pretty much nothing desu senpai. I know a few more words and sentences beyond what I listed.
>>24421939
No, it's not. What the hell?
>>24423350
All it covers is the structure of the language, a few words and some kanji. It's the minimum for actually working or studying in Japan.
>>24420206
Why would I want to learn shit tier caliphate of Europe languages when there is vast amounts of Japanese media to strain my dick?
>tfw no nonasian friends to tutor and talk about asian stuff
>>24423350
I'm the 2006 JLPT1 guy, and it's true. When you begin studying French (as a native English speaker), you're already halfway "there" because the languages are so similar. With Japanese, you start from scratch.
Sure, someone who has passed JLPT1 understands more Japanese than someone who has never studied French before understands French... but expressing yourself? In Japanese? That's a whole 'nother ball game. Only a tiny minority of learners ever get there.
It's a stupid language to study. I did and I regret putting time in it. Japanese know English and they're very racist too. You're better off learning a useful language. I did it to read manga and stuff but never got to there I guess I sort of can but don't care anymore not such a weeaboo anymore.
>>24424207
>Japanese know English
>can't be assed to dedicate 30 min per day to study
>too lazy to write down stuff
Kill me
>>24422365
Haha fuck math professors. Mine is a piece of shit asshole and yells at the class over highschool tier shit.
I always wanted to learn Latin, but I wouldn't know where to start.
>>24418864
I'm throwing
>>24424540
Protip: You don't have to do anki to learn japanese.
The best tip is to study in ways you find fun
>>24426161
like porn
you learn a lot
>>24420206
>latin america
>civilized
>>24420830
These programs are well-priced, and you don't have to do it through a university. I did the Kobe one if you have questions.
http://www.centerforstudyabroad.com/study-abroad/programs/japan/
>>24418864
Here I had this post written out in Japanese and then I was reminded that the robot doesn't like Non-ASCII text.
I'm working my way through Aqua and Spice And Wolf; I got the latter in the mail Tuesday, haven't had time to really start on it because of a lack of furigana.
>>24421106
https://kat.cr/japanese-language-learning-pack-t5829730.html
27gb, but you don't need all of it.
Genki is a good textbook, and "Essential Kanji" by P.G. O'Neil is a good kanji book.
Also jisho.org is a good online dictionary.
>>24426496
Isn't the robot shut down since like a year ago or something?
>>24422412
We're not learning it to talk to people, we're learning it to read lewd vidya.
>>24424206
So even JLPT 1 doesn't force you to speak or write extensively from scratch?
>tfw I love learning languages, but the fact that I'll never use them keeps me from getting good at any of them
>>24424709
Wheelock's Latin
And with the internet, getting texts couldn't be easier. There are forums too, start with Reddit. (>inb4)
>>24426541
It's back as of a few weeks ago.
>>24426541
It's been back for a month or two now.
>>24426486
>over 2000 quid minimum
>have to also pay for own travel
I procrastinate so badly that I'm barely making progress. Feels bad.
>>24426486
>paying 6k for a 4 week program
Kill yourself.
>>24426734
Yeah no shit, international travel is expensive, and Japan's an expensive country.
But the classes themselves are relatively cheap, and they're affiliated with a cheap hotel in the area (at least the Kobe one is).
There are programs that are $10,000 not including airfare and food.
>>24426841
And then they become fluent in Japanese in 4 weeks? Then what? Sorry, dude, but if you actually did this, you got ripped off.
>>24426897
No one ever said you become fluent.
>>24420830 just asked about courses in Japan, so I gave him one. No need to spaz out.
>>24418864
It's coming up along.
Still, I feel pretty out with rest of 4channers that use Anki and the like. I never could remember kanji just based around visual repetition. I went for writing kanji drills that actually made me remember the kanji, but they take a long time (daily) to complete. The success rate is high tho, as I don't forget neither the meaning nor the stroke order of a kanji I've practiced on. According to my tracking I know 738 kanji, all learnt this way. For grammar I went with Tae Kim.
I'm taking JLPT N3 in a couple of weeks. I feel confident I'll pass.
I'm 2 years into it and I now basic shit and random vocabulary words but I would never be able to talk to a Japanese person
>>24426745
Me too and i didn't even reach that level yet
I'm studying this shit at college and holy fuck do they explain things badly.
I can only imagine how horrible it must be for the poor souls that went into class without any previous knowledge of the language.
>tfw not motivated enough to study kanji
I just want to speak it. How long to be decent?
>>24427123
Yeah, flash cards are silly and autistic, the best way to learn them is through actually reading and writing them in context.
Also everyone should know the radicals by the time they're at an intermediate level.
>>24427558
Realistically, probably 2-3 years minimum, but it all depends on how hard you work.
>>24426599
>So even JLPT 1 doesn't force you to speak or write extensively from scratch?
Nope. None of that.
Almost got my guitar class final figured all the way through. It's going good.
>have to play 3 piano pieces to pass a entry thing
>already can see myself failing to deliver
>>24428027
Wow, that's surprising.
The Japanese are known for rigorous exams, you'd think they'd make a test that actually did what it claimed to.
>>24429642
Didn't JLPT 1 mean that you could understand jap in almost everything?
Writing is different desu
>>24429642
I don't know what those lads are even saying, I don't think they have actually taken a JLPT test at all.
Passing JLPT N1 is quite difficult and requieres dedication to at least grind kanji and vocabulary. It is a multiple choice exam, so It doesn't test writing nor speaking capabilities, but If you're able to pass it's grammar section (that tests grammar structures even some japanese people couldn't pass), vocabulary (up to 2180 kanji), and listening (daily to scientific/philosophic conversations) then It can be assumed you can speak and write the language at a proeficient level.
You can still cheat the system though, It's an standirezed multiple choice exam so you can take a crash course on It and maybe pass it.
t. N2 holder
>>24429690
Most serious language tests will test listening, speaking, reading, and writing. I thought the JLPT was the most respected, rigorous test for Japanese.
In any subject, you should be able to produce original content and ideas to show you really understand the material.
>>24429875
>I thought the JLPT was the most respected, rigorous test for Japanese.
It is the most respected and the most rigorous. You're not wrong.
Most jobs in Japan require at least N2 and prefer a N1. If you don't have one of those JLPT certificates then your only option in being an english teacher.
>>24424207
this 2bh. Wish I had put the time into other languages which I'm now doing
I can't afford to study at collage. The idea of getting a student loan goes against my morals. Even if got a loan I still need to work fulltime to pay for my rent, car, bills and stomach meds.
But I really want to learn graphic design/animation and get a job in it field eventually. So I've download all the software and using online tutorial videos and books I spend a few hours each day learning. I want to build a animation portfolio then send it around to production houses for jobs or even start doing my own web cartoon series. So far I can ridge and do some cool camera tracking stuff in Flash and Toon Boom. And my painting skills in photoshop and corel painter have improved a lot over the past year. Now I don't see the reason to got to school when there are so many free and professional tutorials online today. Some people have told me I've learned more skills in 4 months then they did in their first years of design school. That being said it would be awesome to have a teacher you could just ask immediately when you have a problem rather then asking message boards and waiting for replies.
>>24418864
Didn't study anything since the beggining of the semester due to lack of motivation and being a such a depressed faggot all the time. Hope I don't fail.
>>24429973
Getting a job in Japan other than English teacher is hard anyway. The Japanese can find Japanese people to fill any position they need.
Also, like it or not, the chances for serious career advancement for a non-Japanese person are limited.
>>24429850
Just because N1 is "difficult", it doesn't mean an N1 holder is proficient. I've passed both the old and the post-2010 reformed ikkyuu exams, and it still feels like I know nothing.
