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Reddit starts a discussion on why men are killing themselves and dropping out of society in record numbers. Thread gets shutdown.

Is /r9k/ the only safe space anymore?
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>>24308205

most reddit boards are run by power hungry mods who only seek to confirm/validate they our biases, what did you expected?
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obviously because it doesnt fit their societal narrative and I could see the topic degrading into trolling/petty insults pretty quick.

Honestly I think what we're seeing here on /r9k/ is a social issue that wont be discussed en masse until its too late, or way past the point of being relevant anymore
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Reddit was always a nu male beta shithole. Naturally anything that can be related to female privilege gets shut the fuck down or else they can't cry about the patriarchy while giving all their money to women.
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>>24308205
Putting a gun to your head and thinking about your life is not a suicide attempt

Men are killing themselves becuz they want off this fucking ride
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So why was it locked? Sort comments by new OP
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>>24308378
Everything that goes against the mainstream narrative gets locked and the people who question it shadowbanned, are you new to reddit?
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>>24308402
Yes. I don't browse Reddit.
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>>24308378
Knowing how Reddit is a complete SJW haven (there's boards that ban you for just visiting certain boards) I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's the usual feminist "men aren't allowed to have bigger problems than women cause muh privilege"-garbage that they also use to silence people talking about things like unfair treatment of men in child custody cases and stricter sentencing in criminal cases.
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>>24308295
Can you translate that into English?
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Pic related is undeniably true in every way.
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>>24308205
>arcanine
>safe
more normalslime here than ever before even though the robot is back
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https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3swirv/eli5why_is_the_rate_of_male_suicide_so_much/?sort=top

Link to thread.
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>>24308205
>Is /r9k/ the only safe space anymore?

if you ignore the massive normie infestation

/r/mensrights is okay tbqhfamily
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>>24308551
Funny.

The reason (women's attention seeking) is turned on its head so to criticize men ('men just bottle up and refuse to talk about their feelings'). It's a bit like asking why a certain group commits less crimes than another, and saying that the group that commits *more* crimes is just more adventurous, motivated, and entrepreneurial.
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Men are not allowed to express negative emotions in normie social settings. Expression of weakness is seen as pathetic and comical, while expression of anger is immediately seen as dangerous.
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>>24308470
>tfw just want things to get worse so I can watch the world burn

the age of decadence
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Men have always been treated since childhood to not display their emotions, I have seen some people scold their sons who are crying by saying to man up or men shouldn't cry(most of them are women who do this)
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>>24308470

It definitely is. There's a kind of tiredness to being a man nowadays. hell, I don't even know what "being a man" is anymore. Feminization and SJW's destroyed that narrative and they shame it.

I almost hope mass suicide would make them fucking stop.
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>>24308551
do you have a link to giving a shit about that? i can't find it.
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Isn't it funny/sad that reddit is acting like they are annoyed with the black lives matter protesters yet are the main type of people who would be a protester?
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>tfw men do fucking everything in society and all the pressure to meet standards and "Be Somebody" is on them
>tfw they normally get respect for it at least
>tfw this era is one where we're supposed to keep doing all that, keep suffering through all that, but also tell women that they are the ones who really deserve respect, despite not doing anything themselves (or only doing stuff with men propping them up)
>tfw they wonder why the male suicide rate is higher
>tfw they wonder why it's rising
>tfw they wonder why men are dropping out of society
>tfw you bring anything like this up and they call you a fucking loser virgin and ban you from speaking, and they still keep wondering

feminism: police the world with your vagina and demand men worship you for existing, then call yourself a hero
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>>24310621

Imagine when they tip-toe around their wonders and blame video games or porn. I want them to stupidly do that.
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>check normiebook
>see stream of posts attacked to vaguely-familiar names who added me for no reason but to have high friend count
>all of them, without exception, are spewing hypocritical horseshit about the paris attacks and why white people suck and why islam is amazing and no one is allowed to criticize them and WHY AREN'T WE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO BLACK LIVES MATTER
>my family is posting this too

what the fuck am i supposed to do
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>>24310488
Being a man won't make you feel like a man, unless you are also Chad. Being drug user, liar, troublemaker will make you feel like a man.
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>>24310621
>It's okay for women to have sex toys but not men
>We can't play video games but woman can
>We can't say good day or hello to a woman
>We can't even fucking spread our legs in a seat
>We can't be under a certain height
>We gotta accept a woman's flaws but they don't have to ours
>We have to go above and beyond for women
Women excuse me Womyn are oppressed and we should feel bad being born because of shit that we have no control over
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>>24310830
I got banned from a store and being treated like a murderer because i called a girl pretty
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>>24308437

he can't simplify it anymore, idiot
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>>24310771
>tfw I "unfollowed" everyone on facebook and I only get a bunch of page updates on my newsfeed
>tfw kikebook is now tolerable
It's amazing, I recommend you to do the same
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>>24308205
Why this was locked?
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>>24308205

Few care. Most don't. Just suggesting that men need help means you'll be instantly pathologized and demonized by most people.

No point in trying to change it.
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>>24310110
This feel is becoming less and less obscure as the days wear on.
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>>24310771
stop getting upset about proles

i don't care anymore if that's pretentious and fedorable

these people are proles 99% of whose brains consist in exchanging junk data disguised as real statements

>i think obama should be president because he's a strong leader!
>yeah well i am going to base my convictions for the next year on a twitter hashtag!
>i'm a buddhist this month! actually no i just had a kid so now i'm all about #motherhood! LOL #JUSTMOMTHINGS
>DOES ANYONE WANT TO ARGUE WITH ME IN YOUTUBE COMMENTS ABOUT A THING I'VE NEVER READ ANYTHING ABOUT?

you are basically wading into a tepid pool of scum and then asking why you get gunk on your balls

stop interfacing with the prole white noise that covers the surface of the earth, either delve beneath it to something real or climb above it to something real

stop being upset your middle class retard mom likes reality TV when the last 30 years of her life went by in 7 seconds and she's still running on childlike political opinions she formed in 1978 based on commercials she doesn't remember anymore
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>>24310771

My family surprises me. My mom knows how bullshit the refugees are coming to Europe and she doesn't trust any muslim. She wants them to be screened first.

My dad gets his inspiration of money and working hard naturally by his family and by Donald Trump when he's talked about a "Poor mentality means a poor life." in one of his books.
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>>24308375
>Putting a gun to your head and thinking about your life is not a suicide attempt

I'd call it a suicide attempt desu
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>>24308205
nothing about that suggests "record numbers"
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>>24311006
This is oddly motivating.
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>>24308470
The only way it will stop if the people within suffer like the outsiders suffer.
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>>24311020
what makes you any better?
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>>24310110
>>24311016

We're here just in time to sit back and watch societies poisoned with unworkable, unsustainable Utopian ideologies try to deny human nature and bend it to their worldview, only to break themselves in the process. It can't be stopped. It's part of civilizational cycle that has been repeated before time and time again.

As we watch, we post dank memes and keep ourselves amused.
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>>24310844
Where the hell do you live?
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>>24311138

It is, isn't it?
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>>24311248
haha stannis is kilt
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>>24311190
End times? Like the fall of rome and all those other great empires?
I heard if you look back far enough you can find that women were always the reason that things went to shit.
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>>24311270

>le twenty goodmen
>le bad pussy
>le stwong womyn warrior
>le dragon gril who can do no wrong
>le Stannis is le bad man

man this season sucked ass.
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>>24311344
>>le bad pussy

lay off bad poosee doubledaggers, her tits make the sneks worth it
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>>24311344
What am I reading in that pic?
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I think every generation feels like theirs is the worst
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>>24311190
>We had things in common with a young roman male wondering what was exactly wrong with his life and what was going on during his life
>This young roman male probably shitposted scribbles on the walls of the local bath too
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>>24311307

That's usually part of it, yeah.

Unrestrained human sexuality, especially of the female, and a stable first-world standard of living don't go hand in hand. We made it this far because we made compromises with nature. A contrived arrangement to harness instincts for the betterment of most.

Eventually we grow complacent and think we're comfy and safe enough to behave like lower primates again.

There's something in us, maybe a protocol in our DNA, a killswitch or something, that activates when we reach a certain level, and we then regress to an earlier stage of development.
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>>24311398

D&D's writing process.
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>>24311398
gamb of trones
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>>24311138
>>24311006
OH. MY GOD.

HUMANS ARE NOT ANIMALS, SHITLORDS.

WE ARE EXEMPT FROM THE RULES OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM.

DO YOU EVER JUST...

UGH.
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>>24308205
It's simple. The world believes that men deserve to die. Why would anybody allow a dialog to begin if they don't see anything wrong to begin with?
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>>24311531
>>24311532
Thanks friends.
I don't watch the show
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>>24311344
So wait, has the tv series gone beyond the letter cliffhanger?
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>>24311563

kek

filler text so forth fuck the robot
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>>24311563
Yeah we are. I feel sad for you. We're just smarter apes.
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>>24311584

don't start.

>>24311593

there was no Pink Letter in the show nigga
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Is there a huge overlap between /r9k/ and /pol/? I get the two mixed up pretty often, and I forget to which I am posting.
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>>24311006
>long post with fedora tier writing
>tldr is man up
noice
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>>24311644
So what are the last things that have happened?
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>>24311664
they're uniformly retarded and promote equally maladaptive worldviews, if that's what you mean
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>>24311674

Jon gets "killed"

Stannis burns Shireen, half his guys bail on him, gets smashed by the invincible shirtless Ramsay, gets "killed" by Brienne, still iffy to many because they cut away as she swung the sword.

Myrcella poisoned by le Bad Pussy Trio.

Robert Strong has a head.

that's all I remember. Show's gone to shit, I swapped it out for other shows.
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>>24311664
>I forget to which I am posting
are you very stupid?
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>>24311727
you and your mom are uniformly retarded and promote equally maladaptive worldviews
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>>24311742
Oh well. Just seven more years until the next book comes out.
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>>24311672

le maymays

le fedrao maymays

le maymays :^)
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>>24311744
Why else would I be on these boards? Arn't you? If you were smart you wouldn't waste your time with this. You wouldn't be here. You wouldn't feel the need to be snarky or trade insults anonymously online.
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>>24308437
People are not gud mkay?
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>>24311864
I'm just saying you're dumb if you can't immediately tell which board you're on.
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>>24311864

that's the squash right
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>>24311892
And I'm just saying yeah, I'm dumb. Didn't you get that?

>>24311918
Best girl and purist wifu. Yup.
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>>24308205
There's a post there where a guy complains about his therapist telling him that it's all his fault. He gets downvoted and the replies saying "you're lying" get upvoted. Fuck Reddit.
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>>24310110
Same. I honestly am happy about what Elliot Rodgers did and I hope more people follow in his path. There was a time when I might have done the same thing had I access to guns.

Fuck modern society. Women are all such fucking whores. Raised by them, educated by them, and then they complain because I do exactly what they asked. Fucking just want to beat the shit out of them with a baseball bat that has nails hammered into it.
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>>24310488
My dad did this when I was a kid. Now he wonders why I'm always so cold and emotionless
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>>24308205

>safe space


REEEEEEEEEEEEEE TUMBLR CUNT
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>>24312087
Meant for
>>24310228
blox
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>>24311344

I wholeheartedly keked at this. thanks
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>>24312087
>Shut up faggot nobody cares
>Anon you need to display your feelings, being cold won't do any good for you.
I can't believe humans are able to be this clueless
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>>24308470
>Bang Bang You're Dead is 13 years old
>Amerilards still can't into handling the problem properly
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This age is going to crash and burn from a societal standard. We are slowly turning into japan, where we all drop out of life to focus on work. Don't get kids, don't start a family, or anything.

Japan seems to be doing fine, it's just before we reach that point where we say relationships are "too troublesome" we are going to get a bunch of angry bitches screaming about how these men who drop out should be trying to list after them. They will give up soon and see our way.

And then we shall be japan.
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>>24311040
My father is a textbook leftwing extremists and he opposes uncontrolled mass immigration.
Either we have laws or not, we can't just ignore them, can we?
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>>24310621
It's all a way of weeding out the top men. Feminism makes sure the weak men kill themselves or pull out of society leaving only the strong for them to settle with. It's natural selection in action.
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>>24315173

The beta men don't just "pull out", they're left violent and unproductive.

A mass of young men with no family to channel their energy into is a collective loose cannon.

The primal tournament style mating model and a first world standard of living can't coexist. You end up with the Congo. Fucking Mad Max type shit.
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>>24310946
Did this a while back. Feels great, fammer. Best part is it lets people you never really liked progressively isolate themselves from your life without noticing.
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>>24311020
There is literally no other choice than to interact with these poeple. Most healthy minded people are not going to publicily talk about their opinion, except for a few celebs like Jim and milo.
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>>24309928

TRP and MGTOW, though both are being hit hard by idiots. TRP stands the best chance of weathering the storm, though.

mensrights is full of female apologists.
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>>24315614

I choose not to. If they spew politics at me I just slightly mirror their words back to them and wind down the conversation or divert to another topic.

And if you're on facebook, I really have no idea why you are. Make sure people have your phone number and/or email if you really want to, and close it out. Life will immediately improve for you.
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>>24308375

I love how they're always afraid to even dare suggest that men are just serious about killing themselves and women are mostly doing it for attention and succeeding by accident. It'd be fine if they said that's not the case with evidence to back it up, but they don't even spare a word. Like it can't even be discussed or thought of as a possibility, because then you'd have to deal with some uncomfortable facts about mens' role in society.
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>>24311563
Why do women online always use shit like, "ugh" and "I can't even..." and "no, no, no, no, no" and "asshole"? This kind of language is ubiquitous with women across the internet no matter what the subject matter.

Are there other examples?
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>>24308522

I swear it's like half the fucking first page is women and their worshippers.
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>>24315797
Their writing style is also similar, but I can't quite explain it
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>>24315797

OMG WOW JUST WOW

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR STOP THINKING WHAT YOU THINK
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>>24310601
I don't think Reddit is one person retard
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>>24312087

My parents seem to have realized I don't need them at all. I expect a conversation to try to instill guilt at some point. I'd mention the loveless childhood, but that would require me caring enough to inform them.
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>>24315673
TRP are a bunch of pussy beggars.
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>>24315797
> So. Damn. True.
They pause after every word they spew.
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>>24315821
Terribly executed sarcasm?
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>>24316208
Yep, and they stil don't want to acknowledge the GENETIC component in mate selection. They think "pea cocking" or acting "alpha" will get them women. Fucking idiots.
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>>24308205
>safe space
hoLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF

DONT USE THEIR FUCKING LANGUAGE

DONT YOU FUCKING C.UCK
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>>24316261
You're right. They probably use gimmicks like that because the point they're trying to make doesn't have much substance.
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>>24316208

The majority these days, yes. Only the core approved posters are worthwhile, and the sidebar is still useful. Thus the 'weathering the storm' bit.
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>>24316261
>>24315935
>>24315797
Women are living memes.
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>>24316319
I think he was mocking them. It's like how we talk about how much something triggered us.
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>>24315797
its passive aggressive
emojis are quickly taking place of these expressions
go on twitter and you see a million women saying "he cheated so i cheated back (bunch of :) emojis, or a string of stupid emotion emojis)" etc etc
if theres any emojis she's probably trying to be passive aggressive and nonchalant - they think it shows that they dont care, when obviously they do, and if you reply they just put even more because its like a game to them you took their bait and now they get to emphasise how much more they dont care :) :) :) :) :) ;} ;} etc
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>>24316278
That and bunch of other stuff
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>>24310772
yeah i feel soo manly being a lying theiving heroin addict
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>>24315351
Sounds like a party
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>>24315351
>A mass of young men with no family to channel their energy into is a collective loose cannon.
This is how the race war beings...
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>>24310771
I'm Polish and on my facebook everyone is shitting on muslims and asking for them to be shot on sight, except for the odd one or two dumb women who were brainwashed.
Is it really THIS bad in the USA?
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>>24317196
>Is it really THIS bad in the USA?

It honestly depends on where you live.

Rich areas with de facto segregation from the poor are completely delusional about race and religion. They think the world is like Whole Foods where you can shop for Muzzies in one aisle and move on to South Asian cuisine in the next without any of the "icky" things like group cohesion, values conflict, and competition for limited resources.

Rural areas and poorer areas are much more aware of the difficulties of mixing disparate groups of people together due to the simple reality of living dollar-to-dollar. And it goes beyond "black versus white" - a friend in upstate New York was showing off his neighborhood and pointed out the street that divided the "Paki part of town" from the "Vietnamese part of town". There was a definite demarcation.

The good news is that once the middle class is annihilated, these leftist idiots will be fighting for slave jobs alongside all their favorite ethnicities. They'll get to live the true diverse experience they've always dreamed of.
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>>24317196

For white middle to upper class college students (and nonwhites in the upper classes), it is, but even among them it's just a very loud and influential minority.
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>>24308470

Have you ever wondered why lonely men are demonized, especially online? It's the Just-World fallacy.

The reality of modern dating can't be the way it is because if it did, that means manipulative assholes who think women are inferior are getting laid. And any self-professed nice guy who complains about having woman problems must not really be nice and must actually be a manipulative and entitled ass. Because if he were actually nice, it means that genuinely nice guys aren't getting laid.

So we see this veil of arguments: PUA doesn't work -- it's all made up lies and stories by losers on the internet. In the few cases it does work, those women are damaged, but it doesn't work on real, normal women. And in the few cases it does, it's all through lies and deception and manipulation and trickery. And in any other cases, it's all through rape.

And any time any guy complains that he had woman problems when he tried things the normal, conventional, friendly, nice guy way, it's because he's unwashed and hideous and unrealistically expects to succeed without taking the time to look good and learn basic social skills. But if he's not like that, then it's because he's only approaching super-models instead of realistic average women. But if it's not that, then it's because he's actually desperate and sending out invisible desperation signals and turning women off. But if it's not that, it's because he's actually an entitled misogynist and is sending out invisible entitlement signals and turning women off. But if it's not that, he's probably raping people.

And, as we all know, women are intuitive and can sense these things about men; if you're rejected it's a defect on your part that needs to be worked on. And if you ever complain about the lack of results despite your self-improvement, it means you haven't really improved and that you need to work harder, never questioning why others have it easier when you don't. The ride never ends.
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>>24308437
how much farther could that be simplified for you, you fucking buffoon
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>>24315351
Isn't this already happening across Asia? Are they 10-15 years ahead?
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>>24318487

There's the Herbivores in Japan and the Bare Branches in China. The latter is due in part not just to women being cunts but also because of the fucked up sex ratio due to the family policies over there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwKR_rZz-8M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLzWgWeIxE8
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>>24318487

In terms of metropolitan China, I can say young men are totally immersed in the rat race. They're too busy, and too tired to even think about much else. But there are cracks there too. Sexual dynamics are somewhat different there as well. There are a lot more women interested in getting a provider - real starvation and despair type poverty still exists in China. They're also importing Southeast Asian women for wives as well. They also have some of the same distractors - games, anime, etc.

It varies by country.
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>>24317621

Guess it's time to increase our LUCK stat
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>>24310771
>Muslims shoot 100+ random innocent
>"go muslims, show the white man what strong independent pocs you are"
How does anyone come to this conclusion?
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>>24308431
Subreddits like /r/european and /r/coontown(good riddance) to be precise.

You fucking morons can't stop talking about how mean reddit is to you
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>>24315746
I have a facebook, but I didn't log into it for 5 years.
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>>24318487
>>24318630

check this shit out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2--TJYuxc
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Good, keeping adding more fuel to the MGTOW fire.

The more these liberal retards shut down topics concerning the problems males face, the more men will become aware that their society hates them and cares very little about their problems.

And more will opt out. Good fucking luck running a pussified society you marxist shitheads.
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>>24319291
I really hope VR will become affordable in our lifetime and that as many robots as possible will at least get to experience companionship without the toxic elements that 3DPD have.
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>>24318998
They rationalise that those attackers aren't really Muslim, whatever the fuck that means, when they are unarguably Muslim. A fundamental basis for being Muslim is taking the Quran as the direct word of God and that's exactly what they're doing.

Folk on normie book don't spend nearly as much time thinking about or discussing these issues as much as people on places like 4chan. They don't really know what they're talking about.
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>>24319394

It will. NEVER has there been such social hostility between the sexes. This is a bad sign for the future and opting out is the only sane option.

Sad that it has come to this but, it's best to not hop on a slowly sinking ship. This is the future we chose.
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>>24319394

If it ever runs the risk of becoming both common and effective, society will RUSH to ban the fuck out of it. There was a tizzle of articles and blurbs on television news recently just at the hint of it.
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>>24319236
I'm surprised I could find a point said by a woman that I can agree with.
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>>24319236

I've seen it, but it doesn't take into account that most Chinese men (and women) are brought up with an intense sense of obligation to their parents. Only a few religious minority groups in the West can compare with that level of intense pressure they get all their lives. They'll bitch about it, but in the end they will do as they're told.
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>>24319291
>MGTOW

I think this is going to be about as successful as those feminist groups in the second wave who subscribed to rape culture and thought men should be exterminated.

Taking your ball and going home isn't something you can really do at a societal level. Even if you're sitting in your apartment, you're still part of society. I think the men who will be remembered are the ones who engage with society to try and change it, rather than hoping they can Atlas Shrugged revenge-fantasy their way out of it.
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>>24319521
If you talk about banning "it" I believe you mean the software and not the vr device itself. Its gonna be hard to ban such programs without having any kind of pirated version floating in the web.

I honestly believe we can be sure that VR will survive the possible upcoming social resistance.

>>24319462
It certainly is a sad outcome, but better adapt than to stay lonely.

>>24319657
Every robot is technically a mgtow, its a growing phenomenon.
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>>24319657

As the term MGTOW becomes more common, it will mean less and less. Fortunately those of us that can be described by it are by definition not affected if the term is appropriated.
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>>24319657
probably not in the way people fantasize about, but I think it'll have an effect

look at japan, it's where america is headed.
they have a bunch of herbivore men who keep to themselves, do their work, focus on their hobbies, and keep a small circle of friends in that hobby
they don't get married or have kids, so on a societal level, they're not doing their duty

and it's causing a ton of shit like declining birth rates
if it gets to the US, every form of entitlement program is basically dead in the water, medicare, medicaid, social security, not enough people will be around to support it
it will cause a huge fucking inconvenience if a bunch of guys just refuse to get married or have kids
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>>24319568
i'd agree if that applied to women, but it doesn't
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>>24319657
Lots of men already fit the MGTOW profile, they're just not using the term themselves. The number is growing too. University rates will keep dropping. Marriage rates will keep dropping. There's certainly a stigma attached to it but plenty of men are saying "fuck this" and walking away from a social and cultural world that offers them very little happiness.
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>>24319795
Well, this phrase definitely applies to young women more than young men. But I can still agree on the statement, no matter what gender it applies to.
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>>24311270

>>24311344
next season will be a lot better i bet based off of the leaks
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>>24319657

The term "dropping out of society" doesn't mean innawoods Daryl Dixon crossbow shit, it means abstaining from the fundamentally important roles of father and husband, or even boyfriend.

The general rule after a while will be a minority of hypermasculine game-spitting losers spawning with dumb cunts while the state pays them our taxes to do it. Meanwhile other men withdraw into involuntary celibacy.

This is unsustainable if you want a first world standard of living in relative safety.
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>>24319462
>implying the top class will allow for the subhuman to stop working for them and have fun with VR all their free time
they're already buying out the projects and shutting them down. It's never happening, robots.
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>>24315797
and don't forget

namaste
just sayin
but its *whatever year it is*
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>>24308205
When a woman 'attempts' suicide in the west it is a cry for help. She WILL get help and will get sympathy from all around her. Men will be flocking to rescue her and will fight for her attention as a potential mate while women around her instantly create a social support circle to bring her back to her feet.

When a man wants to kill himself he knows that he will receive zero help or sympathy. Heck, he will even be blamed and shamed for causing a strain on society and the people around him for trying to kill himself. He should be working as a slave and shut up. The most a man can hope for is to get some medication that will fuck you over in the head even more until you go completely insane like so many before. A depressed man is seen as fucking filth by society and as an utter disappointment and disgrace by his family. There is no room for half-hearted attempts as a cry for attention, men just get done with it.
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>>24308205

It's not in a subreddit, it's in the ELI5 reddit. If it was in a suicide subreddit it would be safe space, but in ELI5 it's a much more dangerous thread for a suicidal person to stumble upon it and read the arguments going on
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>>24318591
>There's the Herbivores in Japan and the Bare Branches in China. The latter is due in part not just to women being cunts but also because of the fucked up sex ratio due to the family policies over there.
And the shit is about to hit the fan. This situation happened before on a way smaller scale due to local infanticide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nian_Rebellion

In 10 - 20 years the exact same situation will occur except there will be hundreds of million of frustrated men. China is going to seek a war soon or they will have a large scale civil war on their hands.

This is the exact same thing that drives the middle east and Africa into chaos. In uncivilized societies a few powerful men will hog up all the women. The bare branched men are left frustrated without anything to fight for, so they start fighting each other. The more tribal a community becomes, the more it happens and the more it escalates. You can see this in south-america, in US ghettos and now even in white areas of the US as women are no longer willing to settle with men that aren't good enough for them. The only thing stopping a very large chunk of men from becoming very violent is western education ( being actively broken down and discouraging for men ), prostitution ( illegal in vast of US ) and escapism such as video games ( under attack by tribal progressives ).
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>>24321290
Isn't there anything that we can do to stop the actual beta uprising before it starts? It's evident that large numbers of men left to their own devices with no female companionship or goals to reach for will become impatient, violent and ready to revolt.

But how can we prevent the destruction that will result from this? The beta uprising power fantasy meme may sound appealing, but I don't that anyone wants to repair the damage done to society after it's died down.
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Will anything ever come of this or is society just too big to fail?
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>>24322646
Your mom's gapping asshole is too big to fail m8
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>>24322728
>2015
>making jokes about a proud wymyn of color
>being this much of a sexist racist slut shaming shitlord

I am indeed shaking my head in your general direction member of my family
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>>24321726

>Isn't there anything that we can do to stop the actual beta uprising before it starts?

In all honesty? I don't think so. Society is more or less past the point of return for that to happen. People aren't collectively going to suddenly start caring about the high rates of male suicide and all of the obstacles that young men face.

I wouldn't want to see it happen either because it would be a massive inconvenience and I don't want to deal with that much chaos.
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>>24308205
Why are white bois killing themselves? Are they terrified of the BBC?
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>>24310047
>are not allowed
says who? I express these kinds of emotions all the time
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>>24308375
>Putting a gun to your head and thinking about your life is not a suicide attempt
That is exactly a suicide attempt. "Suicide attempt" doesn't mean "failed at killing self and got rescued" it means "suicide was a course of action being followed through, to any extent," and that includes putting a gun to your head.
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>>24310830
>implying any of those things are true
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>>24318591
>the reverse is happening in china.

This is tasty in a way but also painful in another.
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>>24321726
The only way to stop it is if a massive, global scale war breaks out and men will be drafted into war by force. China will be looking for a war for sure since they do not want a hundred million angry men in their own country.
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>>24314046
and after that, we become the Mouse Utopia
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>>24319521
>implying "banning" something means it doesn't exist or propagate anymore

yeah, because we banned drugs that means it's totally impossible to get drugs now... :^)
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>>24321726
war is coming. ship all the beta's out so they can do damage in other countries, and not here
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>>24321726
>stop the actual beta uprising before it starts
We've been railroaded onto this straight track of equality and utopia for too long to suddenly reverse course. This behavior was always unsustainable; and society as we understand will crumble, whether it crashes under its own weight or the betas dismantle it by force.
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>>24310110
you will die along with it dumbass
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>>24315797
it's a communication problem. they can't articulate their thoughts clearly because they're used to feeling a thing and communicating that feeling non verbally (for the most part). that doesn't result in communicating through text well.
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When are you guys going to see the light and give up on 3d. Accept waifus and if necessary supplement with hentai and eventually the 3d woman will disgust you. It is true bliss.
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>>24321726

You better pop that pussy for a real nigga
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Find a nice traditional girl

Put 4 white children in her

Stop complaining, yeah it sucks but if whites don't breed we will just be replaced by slave mud races and nothing will ever get done.
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>>24308402
>implying not browsing le reddit is bad
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>>24325929
It is, if you don't, then you don't know how the real world works.
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>>24311069
Unless you pull the trigger you didn't attempt shit
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is this the Beta Uprising thread? Are you guys going to do another shooting/ mass killing incident in United States of America? Obama
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>>24311599
This one isn't exactly true, we're more like peacocks than a competition species like deer. It isn't the biggest and strongest that gets all the females but the best looking. Sure the biggest may be likely to rise to power because no males want to fuck with him, and that gives him a harem of bitches but that doesn't stop him getting keked covertly by some handsome manlet
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>>24326044
Oh no you won't trick us Mr.FBI
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>>24324186
It's even more interesting, considering that their one-child policy has resulted in a surplus in males.

You'd think that so many middle-aged men and whatnot would be desperate enough to marry another woman around their age, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

All in all it looks like a combination of stagnant traditional values, economic unsteadiness and romanticized media that's subconsciously elevating men and women to pursue unrealistic ideals, which are in turn pitting them against each other instead.
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>>24326008
Yea this. I consider an attempt actually pulling the trigger, slicing your wrist, overdosing on pills, etc.

If what said above counts as an attempt, I've attempted multiple times when I put a knife on my wrist, but didn't go through with it.
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>>24326626
>a knife
With the knife you actually have to cut for a period of time, and be able to find your arteries.

With a gun, one pull of the trigger is enough.
Your comparison is ridiculous.
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>>24319793
This is how I'm living my life at the moment, I've just given up on women because I see no reason to pursue them when all they're going to do is reject/ leave me. As long as I have my porn and vidya I can wait for the robowaifus to hit the market and improve how I get myself off.
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>>24326692
But I thought about it. Enough determination, and I find what needs to be cut. Somehow that is not an attempt even though I thought about it because it takes longer to die though? OK.
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>>24310110
I can't say I agree with you.

I don't want to watch the world burn.

I want to be the one who burns it all down.
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>>24321290
> You can see this in south-america, in US ghettos and now even in white areas of the US as women are no longer willing to settle with men that aren't good enough for them.

As a femanon, I'm just going to throw my input in here because I believe irrational judgments like this between both sexes simply escalating the issues even more.

Men like to think we get everything handed to us via alimony, leftist media and government benefits, but in the reality of it all it's really just a temporary solution (if you could even call it that, more like an illusion,) to the real problems at hand.

Now I definitely agree with 4chan that the third wave feminist movement is absolute bullshit, but you must also realize that the old traditional ways of the 40's and the 50's are long-gone, and that both spouses in a household must work to survive and provide for their children now due to inflation, college debts, unemployment rates, outsourcing, etc. It's no longer feasible for the man to be the only breadwinner anymore, so women have practically been FORCED into earning college degree educations and entering the workforce if they wish to earn a living so that they can provide a family along with their husband.

This is resulting in three primary outcomes: women who aren't pursuing children at all because it will be destructive to their well-being, women holding off to form a stable, providing career first or the third (and absolute worst) option: turning to Chads or nerdy rich shits and whoring themselves out in the worst ways possible to survive. And the Chads and nerdy rich shits continue pressure them into doing this, because so many female options are at their disposal, or much like what the media has done for women - it has influenced to pursue unrealistic standards (see Chinese leftover women or Elliot Rodgers) or simply abandon women altogether (porn and anime waifus.)
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>>24327158
So while the majority of men are being thrown out of their masculine role, forced to live lonely lives or simply abandoning the thought of having a spouse and children altogether in fear of financial difficulties or the wife turning out to be a lying, whoring cheat: women will soon face over-competition in both the workforce and the love field, pressured to take on too many roles that will in turn prevent them from having children and throw them into a similar state of depression.

I'm 90% sure that's why the third wave feminism movement exists now: the millienials and younger generations of women aren't really fighting for issues that truly matter, like the a tougher job market, equal treatment in second and third world nations and so on, because they don't really care about that. If they did, they would do it.

Instead, they're fighting off the so-called "sexist" shit in video games, movies, entertainment media and so on because they subconsciously see it as competition. And with the rising trend of MGTOWs, grass eaters, excessive porn and so on - it's all starting to come together.

It's all a vicious, vicious cycle.
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>>24327320
>>24327158

hey pls don't get tumblr mixed up with feminism
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>>24327371
Tumblr really has helped turn feminism and social justice issues into a fucking laughing stock though. You can't really deny that. Much like porn, anime and waifus haves stripped men of commitment or responsibility.
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>>24327320
>>24327158
These problems are all caused because our society started chasing after the idea of egalitarianism. Trying to put all people on a same level, despite their different values is the fatal move of the 21st century.
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>>24308470
Being a non-Chad male in the modern era is depressing as fuck
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>>24327427
>egalitarianism

In my opinion, it's ultimately overpopulation leads to limited roles. And at some point, society adapts egalitarianism as an excuse to avoid such issues.
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>>24319568
It's true. If you are content with mediocrity, you should kill yourself. Every man should strive to do whatever he has to do to achieve the success he wants, whether it be academics or earning good cash.
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>>24316706
I'll also add capitalizing certain acronyms. You can spot a woman with scary accuracy by paying attention to whether they write things like 'LOL that was a great point!'
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>>24327158
It is social engineering's fault, not women's.

Some nascent movement needs to take place where men and women aim for cooperation. In fact, the hippy movement was this. A rejection of post-WWII social engineering to turn people into suburbia wage slaves.

The brainwashing apparatuses are very good at playing off their respective fears and wants. They have the behavioralist programs dialed in too tight.

If you reject the conditioning you're going to be ostracized from society and your life no longer matters. You'll probably be a broken person filled with trust issues and self-doubt because you see yourself as a failure because everyone else is taught to see you as one too.
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>>24327849
And WRT to the hippies, then the LSD and cultural Marxism came along and fucked it all up.
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I remember that thread. Everyone agreed in the end that more men killed themselves because women were afraid of killing themselves due to the white male patriarchy.

They demanded that everyone agree that women actually try to kill themselves MORE due to sexism but they're smarter about it so they fail.
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>>24308437
they our --> their own
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>>24327320
>Instead, they're fighting off the so-called "sexist" shit in video games, movies, entertainment media and so on because they subconsciously see it as competition. And with the rising trend of MGTOWs, grass eaters, excessive porn and so on - it's all starting to come together.

This might be pure bullshit but it actually sounds like a really solid theory in explaining the nonsensical focus of modern feminism on entertainment-related nonissues. Thanks for this post (fem?)anon
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>>24311020
>tfw been thinking this since I was little
>always nice to hope that I'm wrong and I just don't get them and they're old and wise
>if you're correct, it feels pretty bad
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>>24308470
Nice to see that /r9k/ plays the oppressed card as much as tumblr
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>>24319867
fuck off, women don't have to do shit. Marry some guy with a lot of money and it doesn't matter how much motivation or drive you have
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>>24328167
i have never seen anyone ever put up a real argument against what that post said. It's always empty-headed retards like you who never post anything meaningful. Always using recycled words like whiners, losers, beta, virgins, stop feeling oppressed and shit. I honestly would love to see both sides of the story but I have yet to meet an intellectual person give say anything against men's issues but I never do, always just bump into vapid faggots like you.
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>>24319568
I don't fucking get it though. Why does everyone care so much that he's garbage? Why do you care that some random guy has no morals? Why does that make people's blood boil? I can understand why people would hate other behavior such as being slutty or an asshole because those things have the potential to hurt you or someone you know. Why do people get so angry that someone wants to be a loser?
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>>24328361
it's ironic how you post this on probably one of the best threads i've seen in this board in the past year
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>>24308375
Neither is a taking 4 pills of fluoxetine but it still counts as such when you're going to get help.

Thing is, women are much more likely to suicide "attempt" for attention and men are less likely to get help.
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>>24328372
I was thinking that too. I'm the worst
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>>24321290
China has made sure that civil uprising will be unlikely to be successful.
Rural cops don't even have guns, though I do remember they were looking to equip them with low powered revolvers.
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>>24328462
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/double-action-revolvers/ch/police-revolver-e.html

Seems like it has been in use for a while now
Round is about as strong as a .32acp
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I am at war with women, Muslims, and leftists, but should I see the Muslims Obama intends to plant in our communities raping a white woman, I will turn my back.

Robots need to understand that we are at war with women, we will not find support with even the alt-right or Nazis. They have been manipulated by women to reward women for their bad behavior.
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>>24308205
We have decided to lock this thread due to the massive amount of arguments it's spawned as well as the constant influx of uncivil comments.
Additionally, due to the sensitive nature of the matter in question, I believe it'd be appropriate to link a couple of resources for those that are going through difficult times:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SWResources/comments/1c3p3z/helpful_resources_for_those_struggling_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/hotlines
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Dont listen to these autists, you didnt "attempt" anything mr big man. You sat there with a blade resting on you wrist with "muh sadness". If you pull the trigger, slash your wrist, or swallow that pill then that classifies as an attempt. Its really that simple.
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>>24328676
>or swallow that pill then that classifies as an attempt
sure it does attention whore
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>>24327527
Yeah atleast in ancient times we could rape the unwilling.
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>>24328689
>implying the suicide method that causes the most pain is the most credible
You sure are a fucking dense.
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Well of course. But as an ugly or at the very least not attractive male the game was rigged from the start. I have no choice in the matter and I have accepted my situation. It's not that I or indeed you guys said no to the society. It's the society who said no to us. You can state otherwiseall you want, but denying something doesn't change the fact whether we like it or not.
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>>24328762
>i-i was totally serious despite picking the least lethal suicide method. i totally wasn't just looking for attention
are your cutting scars also suicide attempts faggot?
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>implying I would permanently scar my body because of "muh sadness".
Uh no. I drown my sorrow with drugs and brandy. The day I chose to go will be a shot to the brainstem. Quick and painless. But some people uneducated/scared sometimes go the pill route out of desperation. Just doesnt work because people dont know what they are doing.
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>>24310771
Delete fagbook account or gtfo /r9k/ and continue being a normie
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>>24328853
Oh yes. They're serious about dying so they just take a handful of pill "I guess this might be enough I dunno. Better not do any research though". Attempts by pill are cries for help/attention and they're perfectly aware of the low success rate.
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>>24316261

Single core processors. No multi-threading.
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>>24308205
In that thread, they just refuse to acknowledge the truth of those statistics: A lot of those women had no intention of killing themselves, it was for attention.

They can't just accept that more men actually want to kill themselves because they have more reason to. They're even making the case that women seek out the cleaner ways of killing themselves (the ones without a high success rate, the ones that are slow acting and allow the "victim" to be rescued), because women have more compassion and thought than men for the friends or family that would find them dead.
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>>24321726
>But how can we prevent the destruction that will result from this?

Get a job
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>>24328926
It's the same people that cut themselves. They know that there's a much higher success rate cutting down the arm but they still cut across.
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This guy gave me a laugh. A damn good one.
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>>24328073
Its also because they want all media to be for them and not be triggered
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>>24321726
>Isn't there anything that we can do to stop the actual beta uprising before it starts?

Vidya, porn, and hobbies do the trick.
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>>24319793
>it will cause a huge fucking inconvenience
To who, the whores and niggers that rely on us to make their lives comfy?
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>>24321040
>When a woman 'attempts' suicide in the west it is a cry for help.

Its not even that in most cases, its simply for the drama and attention. I've known many females who've had everything given to them and still "attempted" suicide.
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>>24330127
I think it's more likely when they're overprivileged actually.
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>>24330174
It takes place in all kinds of backgrounds, but one thing they have in common is childlike irrational behavior. All the time the guys around them put up with this behavior to avoid being denied access to pussy, this causes a positive feedback loop that prices many of us out of the market.
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>>24316664
Emoticon*
>ftfy
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>>24311964
That picture looks comfy
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>>24319046
Anyone trained in psych will tell you that exposure to things that trigger you will decrease your sensitivity to being triggered.

The only reason to value your coddled "internet PTSD" bullshit, is that you think its morally important to be triggered by words.
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>>24329624
This is why reddit is shit. You can literally see that the mind of a mod is about that of a 12 year old. They cannot build solid arguments and simply ban you in the act of a "feelings hurt" police.

I wish boards on reddit would take more time to choose their mods, there is so much potential in this side, but they throw it away.
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>>24308205
Welp, just had a nice 5 minute 'conversation' with someone who lectured me about injecting drugs, despite never injecting drugs.

Thanks, man. I do actually inject drugs and do medicine at a top 20 university, but I suppose you know better than me, simply because you disagree. Nice argumentative skills, guy... Review yourself, truly.
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>>24319236
See, when women need men's money it gives all men a shot to at least just succeed at capitalism and life and get a hot babe and a big boat.

When women don't need men's money, all they want is Chad to choke them with his big muscles and fuck them with his big dick.

These Chinese guys are actually the lucky ones.
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The elite social class is planning on a 3.5 billion mark for the overall world population. What is currently happening is due to project E.R.A.S.E. Instead of mass murdering individuals, they are messing with the mind of said individuals, so that way there can be no blame put on world power. To them it does not matter if people mass kill each other, due to they have stored extremely large amounts of resources to live peacefully in an unknown location for more than 1,000 years, plus also have large gardens spanning the premises producing renewable resources.

What nobody seems to understand is that money is worthless to them, it is only worth something to you (in your mind). They have taken all of your resources (the actual good ones) and mass hoarded them in an underground facility. They are going to ride it out peacefully while most of us die.
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>>24331072
Either way, women hold most of the power in dating and relationships.
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>>24310830
You can do all of those things, just be a chad
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>>24331121
>E.R.A.S.E.
Endgame Resource Accumulation + Societal Extermination?
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>>24331121
>The elite social class is planning on a 3.5 billion mark for the overall world population.
But why? I never really understood the reasons behind all this shit, I mean I can see it happening, but unless it's outright satanism, I just don't get what's the point. They already have everything anyway.
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>>24311069
Putting a gun to your head and thinking about life in a contemplation, nothing less than pulling the trigger woukd be an actual attempt in this case
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>>24324087
Putting a gun to your head is not following through. It is contemplation
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I guess you could also ask why where are so little male support centers/safe houses vs female ones
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>>24328073

It'll be interesting to see the reaction from mainstream society once VR porn comes into its own. All the anecdotes I've read so far say it's really fucking good - that sense of presence is fantastic. And this is the very early days.
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More women are using suicide attempt as a way to get attention towards themselves when they feel bad/neglected, that's why you see men shooting self in the head/hanging self as they actually want to end their life instead of women just making shallow cuts on their wrists or taking slightly too many sleeping pills because they are unhappy.
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>>24327158

Nothing in this post benefited by having her genital status known. Be aware folks that even when she's trying to be more equal she fails at it.
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>>24319046
or /r/tumblrinaction or /r/kotakuinaction

Fuck off back to SRS, subhuman cancer.
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>>24324087
By that logic, buying a gun or even touching a gun could be construed as a suicide attempt.

I could say I've had hundreds of attempts while still being too pussy to even get the barrel in my mouth, yet.
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>>24332279
Because they're evil alien reptilians who delight in human suffering, you imbecile.
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>>24332795
But if this was true, why not go full reptilian and fuck everyone's shit up. Why the pretense of society and ideology and whatever.
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>>24328337
It's just wagekek jealousy.
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>>24328273
not that faggot, but I think the problem is that all of the issues are issues.

There are certain aspects of life where it sucks to be a women, and there are certain aspects of life where it sucks to be a guy. Instead of saying " GUYS HAVE IT WORSE!, or GIRLS HAVE IT WORSE!" we should be asking, what issues exist, and how can we actually change them.

Too many people on both sides are too concerned in focusing on how much they have been wronged, rather than focusing on how things could change.

I personally find it entertaining the read contrarian opinions, and that's mostly why I come here, but I find it disconcerting that both sides divulge into explaining why they have it worse rather than how to make things better.
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>>24332279
>They already have everything anyway.
They always want more. Think of it as one big game to them, they want to be so far ahead of you that it would never be possible for anyone to catch up.

>>24332847
>Why the pretense of society and ideology and whatever.
They need a cover, so that way their resource drones (us) obtain their goods for them.

What the elite social class have created is one giant ponzi scheme.
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>>24328337
'Improving' usually means earning more money and getting to a higher position. It's not surprising why women want men who constantly strive to earn more.
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>>24333226
Men have very few channels of support for their problems and next to no support in comparison to women. Of course everyone has problems, but it's far more acceptable for one group of people to have issues over another group. Societal expectations of men are massive compared to women and aren't changing any time soon. That's what that post is about.
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>>24333457

I fully agree with you. But what are you going to do about it, bringing up issues with no intention to try and fix them is whining.

Although I guess you could say that 'your raising awareness' bullshit, so someone else might actually take initiative.
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>>24333640
How should we fix those problems? Most of the issues facing men are entrenched in society. They are unlikely to change anytime. You're missing the point of the post and a place like /r9k/ if you think someone has to bring up a solution to every problem. It's ok to vent. Someone can feel better about themselves and their situation knowing they're not alone. The foundation of a board like this is, if men feel out of place with society, they can find commonalities with others here.
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>>24327650

>Every man should strive

Every man can strive, but not everyone will achieve.
Think about it, could the rich exist without the poor? Who would work for Mr. Shekelstein if noone would take shitty/low pay jobs?
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>>24333226
name one aspect of life in which it is worse to be a woman

protip: you can't you fucking c.u.c.k.
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>>24311563
Sorry, only women can hold that worldview because they will never be faced with the hard reality.
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