http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448
>Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This "pre-adulthood" has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men.
>Still, for these women, one key question won't go away: Where have the good men gone? Their male peers often come across as aging frat boys, maladroit geeks or grubby slackers
>Unlike adolescents, however, pre-adults don't know what is supposed to come next. For them, marriage and parenthood come in many forms, or can be skipped altogether. In 1970, just 16% of Americans ages 25 to 29 had never been married; today that's true of an astonishing 55% of the age group.
>Relatively affluent, free of family responsibilities, and entertained by an array of media devoted to his every pleasure, the single young man can live in pig heaven and often does. Women put up with him for a while, but then in fear and disgust either give up on any idea of a husband and kids or just go to a sperm bank and get the DNA without the troublesome man. But these rational choices on the part of women only serve to legitimize men's attachment to the sand box. Why should they grow up? No one needs them anyway. There's nothing they have to do.
>>24774729
Blaming men for something feminists have created
Feminism has won.
Matriarchy isn't far away.
The fact that adolescence has been extended well into your 20s isn't a good thing at all. The society is breeding a nation full of impotent men. Unable to care for themselves or others. How is a nigga like that supposed to care for a child or provide for his family? It disgusts me to see a 26 year old working at Subway and rooming with his buddies. Grow the fuck up.
I bet this has a lot to do with the male suicide rates. We give them an idealistic approach to what the world is going to be, but then we fully accept them acting like a 15 year old when they're in their mid 20s. This brings a lot of emptiness to one's soul. All the video games and parties in the world aren't going to satisfy your heart.
WAKE UP AMERICA OPEN YOUR EYES ILLUMINATI @)!^
>Women have become so demanding and offer so little in return, they are no longer worth it
>Women have made themselves so insufferable that men are happier dying alone
>This is men's fault
>>24774764
Well you can't blame the women. That'd be sexist you know.
I know it's ancient b8, but still:
>modern western women become undesirable
>kills males drive to impress them or desire them
>market speaks, everyone ignoring women
>it's all men's faults for not "manning up" and accepting terrible mates
They can't believe that men can be happy without them, since they can't be happy without men.
>>24774917
I'm such a misogynist that I didn't realize my bad, at least women don't have to worry about me bothering them.
>>24774978
Muh soggy knee!
>>24774773
good image gay post
My preference for reading a book on a Saturday night instead of wining and dining some hoe is a bad thing now? What does a woman offer me other than a drain on my time and money? The fact that my enjoyment of my time alone is upsetting to them tells me all I need to know about them.
>clickbait inflamatory article
>you all got baited and clicked
>gave the vapid whore pageviews
>>24775246
>implying I don't read the green text and then make inflammatory comments based solely on cherry-picked sections
C'mon, m8. Who reads articles these days?
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Watching needy desperate whores who've hit the wall, stagger and stutter about in their vain attempts to salvage their dignity and whatever worth they ever possessed, is one of my greatest joys.
Gentlemen, karma is real.
>>24775267
>not clicking to scroll down to the bottom to see kucked men crying about said article
>high-school diploma
Current school programs are filled with bullshit and most classes are taught by liberals. Most all state provided education is targeted towards women. As well, most modern women who are mothers are now in the work force and using schools as some sort of baby-sitting program. Children have become immature, self centered and greedy with one another due to a lack of a nurturing parent making the learning experience hard for many.
>financial independence
Before the move of manufacturing from North America, Jewish greed and mass immigration ruined capitalism.
>marriage
When women held traditional values that men find attractive in a wife (closely ties in with materialism, premarital sex, vanity) Also before the cards were stacked against men in divorce settlements.
>children
Before the real estate market priced middle class people out. Now a man can't buy a home to raise a family in because a dump is 10 times his net income.
The modern man has nothing to live for but momentary pleasure and cheap material objects. That's why many run away from reality and find retreat in video games and other media. We're all just trying to escape the mediocrity of the real American dream.
>>24775321
>The modern man has nothing to live for but momentary pleasure and cheap material objects. That's why many run away from reality and find retreat in video games and other media. We're all just trying to escape the mediocrity of the real American dream.
And now you know why feminists are attacking video games with such ardour: they're trying to deprive men of all our places and methods of escapism, so we have no choice but to pay attention to them.
>>24775411
We'll just keep making up new shit, devolving further into /tg/ homebrews, sports statistics, and probably some forms of degeneracy we haven't even invented yet
How does one break the cycle??
>>24774899
Thus begins the endless cycle of societal collapse.
>>24774899
dubs speak the truth
>Not so long ago, the average American woman in her 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: marrying a man for life
>>24775575
Stop being a pussy. Goddamn
>>24774855
>It disgusts me to see a 26 year old working at Subway and rooming with his buddies. Grow the fuck up.
Yeah man, let me just get a good job when there aren't that many to go around.
>>24775899
>>24774855
More importantly, why does it matter if a 26 year old does that? Maybe he wants to, and even if he doesn't, why does that bother women? Is it because she sees him as wasted potential for a relationship? Is she pissed because he isn't living his life how she thinks and wants him to? I don't understand it.
>>24776039
Its because his not paying her any attention, they like being on a pedestal. Except the market value for pussy has plummeted in recent years, because of feminist bullshit no one wants a used roastie.
>>24775899
You actually do have a point there. There aren't many good jobs around.
>>24776039
I think women see no future with that type of guy, I mean..he's working at subway and play vidya in his spare time.
>>24776338
That's not why. It because a woman looks at that and thinks, "a deadbeat, why would get involved in that?" Only girls fall in love with dudes like that. Not people who're looking for a future together.
The whole not paying attention thing applies if you're in a relationship already. She doesn't give a fuck that Mr. Sandwich Artist is not paying attention to her.
>>24774917
Check your fucking privilege. It might be under the tree.
>>24774729
if stupid media delusions count as "pig heaven" I don't wanna live in it.
the writing style of these faggot bloggers, "journalists" and self-proclaimed reporter cocksuckers is atrocious and sucks. hope that faggot hangs himself or she. don't even know if Kay is male or female.
>"Oy vey, dose stupid male goyim aren't marrying these used-up shiksas and making more debt slaves for us! Dis is like anuddah Shoah! More shaming campaigns, more 'Where Have All The Good Men Gone' articles, at once!"
BTFO
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-asghar/where-are-the-good-men-pe_b_826250.html
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-asghar/where-are-the-good-men-pe_b_826250.html
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>>24774729
>manchild thread number 3
>baiting this hard
lrn 2 sage, Anons.
>>24774855
>All the video games and parties in the world aren't going to satisfy your heart.
you can go and tell that to all the dumb whores who shun them. that's right. that's the only fucking truth that matters in this whole situation.
the dumb cunts stopped caring and are all emotionally unavailable and in return, the guys don't care about anything anymore either. pussy and long-term relationships used to be valid goals and now there is nothing to look forward to, except when there is a new Steam-Sale around the corner.
>>24776039
It's because he won't get a job that makes enough money to support her lavish materialistic lifestyle, or enough popularity to justify her acting like a cunt to everybody.
Women want a mate with high capital and social status so that they can sponge off of him, while they go fuck the starving artist or body builder while he's at work.
Complex problem.
- porn
- automation/outsourcing strips away good manly jobs, now lower class people just do service work which emasculates them
- decreasing prosperity, many problems of industrialism are catching up to us: environmental impact and resource exhaustion for one - America was the Saudi Arabia of the world for the first half of the 20th century, that probably added a lot to the general prosperity
- end of novelty, things are pretty inhuman and all the escapes aren't quite as radical as they once were
- overpopulation, more people than jobs; 50% of Americans under poverty line
- increasing cost of living and piling costs of social advancement such as tuition, most adults may not feel ready to have children until they're Middle aged
There's also the fear/power thing.
Women back in the day may have felt that by marrying a factory or office worker they were buying into America Inc itself, not the dream but the power structure. Whoever has the nukes and cops and judges and etc etc would feel well disposed towards the legions of white families because they made up the industrial base which made up the powerbase of (whoever). Therefore the fear of being nuked, arrested, shot, starved, etc etc was allayed by being a good American woman and marrying a good American man and having good American kids. Nowadays again with automation and outsourcing or globalism there isn't really that much of a symbiotic relationship between common and elite Americans. The elites only need specialists to operate their machines, rendering commoners totally subservient to them. Women may pursue casual sex as a form of escape from this reality, or in an attempt to find someone who has a secure place in society. Women may not feel that people who work at McDonalds are capable of providing for their children, since really its the people who own McDonalds which would be providing for the children.
>>24777067
It also says a lot about him. What kind of a man wants at 26 years old is okay with roommates and a Sandwich Artist job?
Not all women are looking for that rich guy. In fact, if you'd step outside you'd find that 80% of them don't care about lavish lifestyles and riches. They do want you to have a steady income. It shows that you're not a leech and have goals.
I swear, you niggas are either trolling or delusional. There are women that you're describing. There are also men that are exactly the same way. Not every man/woman is a gold digger.
>>24777179
This nigga right here reasons.
You touched on kids. Holy shit are kids expensive. My wife is a nurse, and I'm a lacquer specialist. We were doing pretty ok. We had our kid when I was 23, and holy shit. Say goodbye to wanting a sports car or going on a nice pampered vacation.
>>24777362
>Not all women are looking for that rich guy. In fact, if you'd step outside you'd find that 80% of them don't care about lavish lifestyles and riches. They do want you to have a steady income. It shows that you're not a leech and have goals.
So I only have a 20% chance of being keked, having any kids stolen, accused of rape, robbed by the bitch and the courts, then paying for her until I fucking die? I would have had better odds fighting in in WWII for fuck's sake.
>>24775411
They could try but they won't stand how devoted we are to something pointless to others. Hell, I had a fucking serious discussion on Pokemon EV training and building a Yugioh deck.
>>24777459
Do you really need all the "best" things?
When you think about it its kinda fucked up that we send our kids to daycare until they're 18, then send them to live with a whole nother group of people. A lot of the money goes into trying to figure out who's the best daycare and affording the best post daycare living arrangement I'm assuming.
This just looks like nobody seems to like bourgeoisie college kids, even, maybe especially if it's other bourgeoisie college kids; like the articles author.
Quite honestly 'where have all the good men gone' gets cried over and over again and generally it over looks that the minimum requirement for being a man to a modern female means having a college degree and the writers experience and writing focus on those types. Where have all the good men gone? Well most of what were considered good men didn't have college as a qualifying test of manhood. Google says about 40% of Americans have been to college and we know the bulk of them have been females.
That's such a ridiculously small % of males they are complaining about but makes up the bulk of their complaints. Fuckin' pathetic it gets so much media exposure when it doesn't really concern the rest of us.
>>24774729
>astonishing 55%
it's astonishing it's not over 90%. there's still a lot of stupid men out there I guess.
>>24774855
Lol he jelly he has no friends to room with
It's not our fault you're so unlikable dude
>>24775520
>and probably some forms of degeneracy we haven't even invented yet
You don't know how much I love you
>>24776977
He's a massive kek. Literally advocating the cock carousel.
>>24777595
I'm getting to a point where I'm beginning to care less about 'best' things. I just want adequate things. I don't need an S63 AMG, I'll be okay with an older car. I do, however, want the very best for my kid; and it's fine line between the best of things (mentally and physically) and just plain spoiling.
My kid is not definitely not going to daycare. Maybe kindergarten. I don't know about schools. Public or private it doesn't matter, they're both fucked up. The only problem I need to avoid is figuring out how to give her enough social interaction so that once she grows up and goes to college she doesn't dive off the deep end.
I've seen kids be sheltered and secluded from the world until they go to college and go crazy because they've on lock down most of their life before.
>>24777699
I have a wife and a kid. I don't need roomies. I'm way past that point. It's okay to have roomies, just not when you're in your late 20s.
>>24777765
Well, its pretty clear that the socialization regime is necessary for success within the society itself. The way I look at it, there are two ideals - achieve maximum weight in this society, or found/join a separate society out in the hills or wherever. Sheltering your kid and then thrusting her out into society will just be a stillbirth.
>>24776977
Both sexes know the drill: After the Average American Woman searches in vain for her modern prince, she and her "girls" will go out Friday to blow off steam by dancing at a club, usually in one of those bizarre and impenetrable Circles of Five Women; hapless and tipsy men will queue up and attack the Dancing Circle like sperm; she will coolly dispatch the responsible, career-minded ones with mixed signals and a caution that she's "still getting over a real jerk"; she will hook up with a felonious, faux-sensitive pornographer who is starting his own rock band; she will take a long, hot shower; and she will write a bestselling memoir titled, All Men Are Douchebags, whose royalties will fund her trip to the sperm bank.
BTFO
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>>24777765
Get her playing a team sport like soccer. She'll have interaction with her teammates, be sporty and have a potentially successful sporting career which will stop her from going off the deepend. Alternatively you could do what my parents did with my sisters, and out them into Gymnastics and Tae Kwon Do from the age of 5. They're still dedicated to it.
>>24777552
No it's almost 50% didn't you read op?
Who the fuck wants to be a 'good man'
Fuck living someone else's idea
>>24777799
>dubs and quads wasted on someones opinion about how others should live that doesnt effect them.
>>24777799
>I have a wife and a kid
make sure you look after it, that kid's taxes will pay for my retirement, thanks senpai
>>24774729
>Relatively affluent
fucking lol
>>24774855
>It disgusts me to see a 26 year old working at Subway and rooming with his buddies. Grow the fuck up.
He should grow the fuck up and will a better job into existence that currently doesn't?
>>24774855
Oh boy...
You sound like a woman.
>"We want to be equal, we want the same jobs as men!!!!"
>"We want more women in the workplace!"
>"MUH GENDER GAP!"
Then
>"why aren't you manning up and being a real man and getting a high-paying full-time job that society approves of so that you can support me while I work 20 hours a week answering phones and filing paperwork?!"
The fact that adolescence has been extended well into your 20s isn't a good thing at all. The society is breeding a nation full of impotent women. Unable to care for themselves or others. How is a bitch like that supposed to care for a child or provide for his family? It disgusts me to see a 26 year old working at Wendy's and slutting with her besties. Grow the fuck up.
I bet this has a lot to do with the modern divorce rates. We give them an idealistic approach to what the world is going to be, but then we fully accept them acting like a 15 year old when they're in their mid 20s. This brings a lot of emptiness to one's soul. All the whoring around and parties in the world aren't going to satisfy your heart.
>>24777927
That's a good idea.
She seems to be into music. She's not even 2 but she's already humming her little tunes while she plays. I want to give her an opportunity at it that my parents never gave me though I love music. The earlier you start the more chances of you knowing it intimately, by heart. Though I won't force it on her if she's not feeling it.
I definitely want her to be an active child from early on so that she's ok with socializing with people unlike I am. I honestly sometimes can't believe that I managed to get married. Somehow, my looks and demeanor are that of a Chad; but inside I'm far too sensitive, insecure and uncertain about everything in my life. In the last year I've managed to get off antidepressants and anxiety meds.
Basically, I really don't want her to struggle with the same things I struggled with.
>mfw feminists made the bed and now all women have to sleep in it
>mfw living alone, master of my own domain
>>24778205
Good word, Anon.
>Why aren't there any good men out there anymore
BECAUSE YOU FRUITIFIED THEM YA FEMINIST BULL NOSE BULL DYKE ELLEN DEGENERES CARPET MUNCHING PIECES OF CRAP
Honestly this is true for everyone, not just men.
70s kids are trying to relive their youth through social media and reality tv shows.
Boomers are living large off their retirement not giving a fuck.
Millenials(us) aren't getting the proper guidance or set up for a future because people are too focused on living for themselves, especially parents, and because of the rise of single parents(mostly mothers) popping up everywhere.
The federal and state governments are in gridlock, and the capitalist market has made it so there are more homes/apartments/livingareas for profit rather than affordable living. People are taking more than one job to afford to live and we're still getting immigrants on the daily. Even going to a community college is expensive as fuck and there's no guarantee it'll get you a job in your field.
So now it's either you got lucky and had enough friends to room with someone else, got a significant other to live with and share rent, live with your parents who expected you to leave at 18, or got extremely lucky with rich parents who don't mind throwing you in a home fully paid.
Nobody understands that you can't just "start from the bottom" anymore if starting from the middle gets you nowhere. Some of us have started to realize the futility of it all, you need to work 10 times harder than your parents just to get to where they are at, while they had it easy the whole way through. So now you want off this ride, because even friendships have become a commodity and relationships a threat.
>>24778212
Get her doing a martial art, you won't regret it. She'll thank you for it later. Try taking her to the park with you as much as possible, fuck the haters and the nosey cunts. Do what feels right, it's hard to describe but if you think about the shitty parts of your upbringing, you'll make hers better.
>>24775132
lol u gay bro?
Women are great. They're pretty, they have vaginas, and they smell good. What more do you need to know?
>>24775575
Outlawing divorce and abortion is a good start. Also prosecuting adultery and making it a capital offense is another good way.
>>24778379
Fucking truth anon
>>24774729
We should all help these women out and go jerk off at a sperm bank tomorrow.
>>24778696
>Women are great.
They can be, sure.
>They're pretty
Quite, most can be.
>they have vaginas,
In the traditional sense, yes.
>and they smell good.
Do you know how bad their breath can get close to their period? It's like the breath of death, only you don't die.
WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE
ewrq
Overwhelmingly women profit from the redistribution of wealth from men to women. If men are happy only making 30k/yr and covering their own needs and socking away a bit in tax advantaged accounts to retire on then women get less tax revenue. Daddy government is the new husband they leech off of. With men everywhere dropping out and living sensibly women have a harder time buying lobster for every night of the week and affording a new pair of shoes or handbag on their vaginabux.
>>24778553
Park she gets almost daily. She's looks like she's having a seizure when we get near it. That's how excited she gets.
>women of the previous generation raise us improperly
>women of the current generation are complete degenerates who can't do anything a woman should be able to
>>OMG where have all the good men gone???
>>24778749
you can't do that because it's heavily regulated and they'd rather take digusting nigger sperm rather than yours.
>>24778844
this. this is the whole bullshit in a nutshell.
>>24778887
>tfw even your sperm isn't wanted by degenerate whores
>>24774855
the powers that be do not care whether I get people pregnant or die a virgin
I see it this way: either women change collectively (pfhhahah, yeah, right...lol, maybe if you take away their suffrage) or we are fucking doomed as fuck and society as we know it feel erode even further until this whole trash dump falls apart completely in the next 10-15 years. no way around it, no circumvention. but since roasties are all avoidant pussy clamshells, pissing and shitting themselves out of irrational fears every occasion there is, nothing will save us or them.
>>24779015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxavPANO8s
>women
>contribute literally nothing to society
>actually make it worse by voting for gay feelings bullshit all the time and turning the world into a pink fuzzy safe space for stupid vaginas
>destroy family unit so you can be whores with no responsibility
>spend all men's money while generating none of it
>outlive men by a decade
>use fake suicide as attention-seeking while men actually kill themselves in droves from pressures of life
>have millions of institutions designed to make you happy and make sure you're successful (on other people's tax dollars) and complain for you when things don't go your way
>spent entire life whining and nagging and feeling genuinely entitled to being the centre of the universe
>stop having kids within the normal range to produce non-autism babies (20s)
>revert to hypergamy, driving 50-80% of the male population into misery and the lower 40% into practically suicidal despair
>literally nothing but an annoyance and big whiny retarded child to men
>all of this so that you can supposedly be feminist liberated powerful womyn and start contributing as equals
>don't do that at all
>in fact men probably create even more of the culture and do even more of the useful work in society than they did before feminism, because at least they could use their authority over women to guide a few into usefulness
>still have the fucking gall to complain about the system YOU created and YOU benefit from, the system that is grinding up the millions of "geeks" and "slackers" who have been robbed of their traditional rewards for hard work in life but are still expected to do the same amount of work if not more
>can't just fucking shut your nagging cunt faces for one second and leave men alone
>have to chase them to every one of their own safe spaces and ridicule them for not "manning up" when you wouldn't even know what that means
>have to write bitchy period blood articles mocking men
THE NEW PATRIARCHY IS COMING
AND THIS TIME
IT'S PERSONAL
>>24778887
What if we all befriended a nigger each and had them deposit our sperm at the sperm bank in lieu of their own, It would be brilliant.
>>24774729
>Relatively affulent
Lmfao, what does this even mean? Wages have been in a standstill for decades now. Would WSJ like everyone to go out, get married, get saddled with kids, becoming exceptionally poor and vulnerable to corporate slavery? Fucking economist pricks.
>>24779109
>Would WSJ like everyone to go out, get married, get saddled with kids, becoming exceptionally poor and vulnerable to corporate slavery?
>WSJ
>Wall Street Journal
>Would Wall Street like more debt riddle corporate slave drones?
>>24779159
Yeah, WSJ was not the right term to use there. This is more of a general sentiment I see in government and other unexpected avenues. So stupid -- bureaucracies putting the chicken before the egg. You can't have a strong nation or a strong economy if the people are economically crippled. It never lasts.
>>24778840
You fucking legend
>>24774729
Wow great article, I can taste her butthurt not only as a writer but also on a personal level. This cunt is aching to get dicked but she fucked herself over hard by being picky and "career-driven" well into her early 30's. Now she's finding out nobody wants to have sex with her anymore.
>>24778887
Atually most places won't even take black sperm. They're very undesirable. Generally they all require you be white, 6'+, bachelors of science degree, and a clean bill of health without any family health problems. I looked into it and while it would be worth it if I didn't have any other income it's really not worth it if you meet the criteria. You can't use lube, which makes it very hard for me as a cutfag, and it's only a couple hundred dollars a week going in twice a week. You aren't allowed to fap or have sex within 3 days of selling sperm. That was the biggest dealbreaker for me. It would be cool to have children out there somewhere, but I"m not really going out of my way for it.
>>24779087
they'd find out it's not the nigger's semen.
>>24774729
Will find it in a second, but didn't a later WSJ op-ed BTFO this chunk of physically-realized retardation?
>>24779241
after they give birth to a white baby, but by then it would be to late, they cant abort it.
>>24779266
>they can't abort it.
Anon, I...
>>24779082
To be honest, it was primarily males who let females out of their cages, weak beta intellectual males who thought they could be "equal" to women.
>>24779231
>won't even take black sperm
LOL most racist thing I've read all week. I can only imagine some woman working at one of those clinics at the front desk and a black guy comes in asking for the free money for cum form, only to find out he can't donate, but the white guy behind him can lol
>>24779322
it was probably because they thought it would get them laid. I don't blame them though, maybe getting laid was hard as fuck back then as well.
>>24779231
With the direction the courts are going, tomorrow they will rule that the child's right to know his father supersedes the sperm donor's right to anonymity. Then, guess who gets to pay alimony?
A number of court rulings have been similar to this, ruling that the child's right to be cared for supersedes basically everything. Even male rape victims have been forced to pay alimony for this reason.
Never be a sperm donor. Be careful where your sperm goes, don't let it go anywhere that isn't planned.
>>24779347
they discriminate against stupid people and manlets too
you really think they want some inferior man's cum?
>>24779373
I don't think it was that hard back then, apparently you could just club a bitch over the head and drag her back to your cave.
>>24779347
They have PC methods of telling them. They get a polite letter in the mail saying that they do not meet the requirements. They don't explicitly mention race. There is like 10 pages of paperwork and questionnaires to fill out before you can even whack it for cash the first time. A lot of guys get turned down really. Just being white isn't nearly enough to get into the program.
>>24779462
we're talking 1800s-1900s
But i wouldn't mind returning to such a time, at least if i die getting a wife, it will be an honest death, not an empty rejection that leaves you depressed and expecting a slow death.
>>24777799
>Wife and kid
>Posts on r9k
You're the reason your child will grow up fucked up. Spend time with him/her, faggot.
>>24777799
>I have a wife and a kid.
JUST
>>24779462
I'm not talking about pre-historical times, friend.
I mean the times right after "sexual liberation" (aka roasties only wanting to fuck Chad and the annulation of the social contract between men and women that actually worked) and surgence of feminism and other "progressive" loony bin ideas that would only castrate a man in whatever he tries to do right after.
>>24779512
She's been asleep since her bye bye time. In my spare time I what I want.
Nice assumptions tho desu senpai
>>24779512
>he's so utterly stupid that he thinks other people spend as much time here and take it as seriously as he does!
>>24775899
>Man in his 20s lives in near-poverty but is happy because he doesn't need a whole lot in life and he gets to split rent with his friends.
>This is viewed as a bad thing by society.
If that is how society feels then fuck society. I want out.
Seriously as long as I can afford high speed internet to go along with my beat up car and daily living expenses that is all I need. Society shuns this lifestyle because it contributes nothing back to the system. No kids to create tax machines out of, no extra spending that a wife would bring. Fuck it. I just need a couple of friends and my hobbies.
The standard normie life is a humongous scam.
>>24779536
i dont wanna fuck ur shit up senpai
borderline chad here
If you're a successful man these days with decent/good genes, there is absolutely NO REASON to commit to a woman unless you are selfish enough to want to bring a child into this world.
Young women give it up like it's going out of style, so women these days are essentially bound in a prisoners' dillemma where they fuck and get a short term relationship with a guy, or the guy finds another broad who will.
If you take care of yourself, you can be banging 22-year-olds into your 40s.
since the sexual revolution, it's getter easier and easier for dudes to bang fresh new pussy. in 1995, you'd have to go out to a bar to get laid. in 2008, you'd have to go through the hassle of OKCupid dates. Now you can just tinder and be banging a broad out in 45 minutes, like pizza delivery.
So when women get tired of the tinder scene, they start looking for the nearest useful idiot and compiling a mile long list of requirements.
ALL men see this. and no man wants to pay sticker price for a used car with a lot mileage. I mean, relationships are a fucking value exchange. and you're paying a premium for something that other men got for free.
To be your average married chump is an absolutely soul-destroying experience. I've seen it happen to friends of mine. As soon as you get married to a broad, you can say goodbye to your freedom and goodbye to all your aspirations and dreams
.
Women are the only asset in the world where the price goes up as the underlying value goes down. When they're 18, you're cool to a chick if you have a car and your own shitty apartment where you can bang her. When they're 35, you need a "respectable career" and substantial savings to buy her a house with granite counter-tops
and men less lucky/ambitious than me, I don't judge you if you play video games and MGTOW. Nobody wants to bankroll a whore that fucks like a prude. DON'T SAVE THESE HOES, NO MATTER IF YOU'RE CHAD OR A COMPLETE ROBOT
excuse the rant, i'm drunk
>>24779512
>>24779569
>>24779582
>posting on r9k at all
lmfao faggots
>>24779546
Well you could argue that the justification for those ideas is older than the U.S. itself...you might even say its...abrahamic.
When all are equal under god its not long until this logic is followed to its inevitable end, even if god is replaced by the state.
>>24779586
>doesn't need a whole lot in life
every 2 minutes one of you faggots makes a thread bitching about life and how unfair it is
>split rent with his friends
every 20 minutes one of you faggots makes a thread complaining about your chad roomies
next thing you're going to say is that you're happy or content
do you think your wife could bring extra income tho?
>>24779613
where do you think you're posting
i've been posting here before i had a wife and kid. and i'm far from being the only one. 75% of people posting on this board are not even robots
seriously shut your bitch ass up
>>24779499
>not an empty rejection that leaves you depressed and expecting a slow death
this
i'm going to curse bitches to my dying breath. i'm so fucking angry at them for being shitty, small minded crybabies
this is why julia roberts and tina fey bullshit romcoms are so popular - because stupid ass women finally realize at 40 what men have be telling them all along. life is not that big a deal. just make a decision and live with it
but no. it's all about muh special job. muh special semester in italy. muh special foodie restaurants. muh standards. muh investment banker husband who will never fucking materialize. i would never do something awful. but i understand it completely.
>>24779597
I'd say ur spot on I'm like you man why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free??
>>24779597
no offense, Mr. Chad but I just can't fathom sometimes how you're saying it's ridiculously easy to get laid whereas I'm a virgin in my 20s, next to a bunch of other dudes a little younger younger or older, doesn't matter, in the same fucking position as me.
I don't even know where you live but if Tinder and Co is the only way to make any of that shit happen I'm out of luck because I just don't use that kind of stuff and I'd be weirded out like fuck trying to connect to some bimbo that I won't have chemistry with.
>>24777909
And then he goes on to advocate women riding the cock carousel and shutting up about "finding a good man" until they're 30. God damn, he really soft-balled that one. What the hell kind of solution is that?
>>24779586
Thank you based anon. Fucking normals are merely cogs in the machine. Fuck that. I'll live my life no matter how big or small, not as a drone in society's cold grasp but as ME.
>>24779644
I know each poster's name is Anonymous but we're not actually all one person.
Take your roasty rage back to reddit. You'll still find someone willing to settle if you scrape the bottom of the barrel hard enough.
>>24779698
>rage
of course i'm raging, otherwise you don't have shit to say
keep lying to yourself you pathetic shill
>>24779681
>but no. it's all about muh special job. muh special semester in italy. muh special foodie restaurants. muh standards. muh investment banker husband who will never fucking materialize.
oh god, this is so true. the roasties all have retard mindsets like that. holy shit. I see it every day.
>>24779681
You are what you hate, though. You're not any better than any of the women you curse.
>>24779597
This is basically the only way to go. MGTOW is the future. Build a perfect life for yourself and fuck women 18-25, trading in for a new 18 to 25 year old girl each time she gets too old or troublesome. fuck getting some used up roastie and deidcatin your life to her. I have vidya and tons of attractive women I'd rather spend my time with.
>>24779644
I know this may be difficult for you to believe, but not everyone on /r9k/ is the same person. Difficult to comprehend, I know.
I have lived with Chad normies for a couple of years now. I am friends with them and I'm fine with it. They are nice people and they help encourage me to go out and be social.
I'm not happy or confident, but that has nothing to do with my living arrangement. If anything the people I'm living with help me be more confident. If I was living alone I'd be a 100% shut in recluse who never did anything and I would be much more unhappy.
A wife could bring extra income, but there would also be money spent on her, and especially the potential children.I'm not saying I don't want kids. I do want kids. But not having a wife and kids at 26 is fucking perfectly fine. I'm only 23 though.
>>24774729
>be millennial male
>be born
>boomer parents don't, and never have given a shit about your future
>receive shit-tier education
>grow up with incredibly stimulating entertainment and media
>feel alienated because of ridiculously stringent social standards due to said media
>struggle forming meaningful relationships
>get into massive financial debt to get useful degree
>spend the next lifetime paying off that debt
>live in squalor because rise in cost of living
>have career outsourced or automated
>have to work menial service work cause no manufacturing
>income gap get's increasingly wide and if you question why that's even productive for the economy you get ostracized
>watch as the environment and climate get worse and worse
>drought, flooding, air pollution are now daily hurdles to meagerly jump over
>get told you're a piece of shit because of how you were born (white straight etc.)
>get called racists, sexist etc. for pointing out how bigoted and useless that way of thinking is
>left wing now completely unconcerned with the plight of the working class, they only care about appeasing anyone who isn't like you
>ISIS was invited by the left wing into your country
>go outside get shot and blown up by ISIS
>go bankrupt from medical bills from your injury
>the only respite you can experience is smoking legal weed and playing PS4 because all economic, social, political and cultural trends indicate a general decline
>28 year old hipster yuppie blogger woman comes up to you and says "be a man"
>yfw
>>24779668
>being this mad u got BTFO
lmao faggot i own u
>>24779681
>muh special semester in italy. muh special foodie restaurants
pls somebody make all these memes stop. these memes are too prevalent and I want of this ride
>>24779718
It's hard enough to understand you when you don't put any effort into formatting your posts. At least try to put together whole sentences otherwise we don't know what you're going on about. You need to realize we're not all one person like you seem to believe.
>>24779681
Women are inherently more focused on creating "safe environments", i guess the modern western world is what happens when you make an environment that is too safe.
Women dont see the stagnation that is caused by having an "overly safe" environment where any genetic mutations are allowed to exist (yes this even includes some chads). This is why they still bitch and complain even though when compared to ancient times, they live a pretty comfortable life, but its never enough for them.
They dont see how this safe environment makes men into women by reducing their masculine attributes, and then they complain about where all the men have gone.
There is no environment where females do not belong, they will always adapt, so any return to barbarism wont really effect them aside from being more careful about whom they lead on and choose as a mate, if they have the family to protect them so they have such a privilege.
>>24779743
lolwut?
So christians are actually satan worshippers? You must be trying very hard to be that retarded.
People hate because of profound fundamental differences. It would be more accurate to say you are least like what you hate. If I were some dumb Stacy cunt then I"d probably think dumb Stacy cunts were pretty good. Not hate them.
>>24779597
this to be quite honest family
let the muslims inherit the earth like the roaches they are
>>24779681
Jesus christ you bullseyed all of it.
>wow anon I love this free range vegan-fed cancer free chai mocha expressolatte
>what kind of coffee do you like?
>Why should they grow up? No one needs them anyway. There's nothing they have to do.
You're goddamn right. You don't need no man? Fantastic. I don't need no women; I've got my hand, and within my lifetime I'll have a sexbot. You're simply not worth the trouble for myself or my peers. Get some cats, cunts. You're done.
>>24779765
OMG! I'm glad you pointed that out, I would have never thunk it!
I didn't say that you're supposed to have kids. I don't even think you're supposed to have a wife if you don't want one.
I just think there's some kind of a weird shift due to the way things are taking course in our country where dudes live their lives like teenagers til they're about 30. After that a lot of them kill themselves because they look back on their empty lives. Not all. Some are somewhat content in this. I'm only upset because our capitalist system has fucked your average man to the point where he can't even realistically pursue his dreams anymore. I'm not talking about grand dreams, I'm talking about your average dreams.
Men aren't who's supposed to be blamed here. They're adapting to the situation, but so are women in their slut cake ways(a lot of them are adapting this way).
>>24779743
The thing is, he cant be effectively "better" because he cant express his masculinity without it being shut down by the modern state.
We only speak of "bettering ourselves" in relation to the modern world which rewards people who conform and "follow the herd".
>>24779689
honestly if you're not the classically handsome type to cleanup tinder, you just gotta find your niche that isn't "depressed vidya-playing shitposting robot"
there's groupies for everything man. i'm pretty sure 85% of djs always had an interest in music, but were seriously motivated by the easy pussy.
>>24779775
so mad right now desu senpai
>>24779867
i kno u are bcuz i own u
ur literally my puppet and ur mad as fuck
now to prove i own u, i will command u to reply to this thread again and u will do it like the good doggy you are bcuz i own u :^)
now post for me doggy
>>24779773
>>watch as the environment and climate get worse and worse
>>drought, flooding, air pollution are now daily hurdles to meagerly jump over
that's why you shouldve worked for the environment
>>24779765
>A wife could bring extra income, but there would also be money spent on her, and especially the potential children.I'm not saying I don't want kids. I do want kids. But not having a wife and kids at 26 is fucking perfectly fine. I'm only 23 though.
not worth it. having a wife is like living with mom again, except you picked your wife and she sucks ya dick. youre still gonna clean up after her, live up to her expectations, and generally put up with her dumb shit and logic. no she will not appreciate your hobbies. depend-opotamus' are a real thing and will take advantage of you even if you dont have money. if youre the kind of dude who needs his dick sucked to forget all of his problems, then youre a kekfuck who's perpetuated the cock carousel
>>24779908
>she sucks ya dick
>this naive optimism
>>24779597
> no man wants to pay sticker price for a used car with a lot mileage. I mean, relationships are a fucking value exchange. and you're paying a premium for something that other men got for free.
This is such an excellent metaphor I'm shocked someone on 4chan invented it.
Seriously, if women can go fuck-crazy before marriage and then divorce in order to do it again, what's the point of marriage? What's the point of kids if both parents work?
>>24779938
5 years in a row now to be quite frank with you kin
>>24779955
i'm not saying it's unheard of, but not a guarantee by any means with how women are these days
>>24774729
>Why should they grow up?
Sort of funny. When men could find virgin cuties they would grow up and get married.
Now there are no virgins so no men are getting married.
>>24779849
So you basically agree with me. Why attack me then?
I agree that society has caused a lot of men to live like "irresponsible" teenagers until they're 30. I personally don't see a problem in this though. If you care so goddamn much about it that you consider killing yourself over your simple lifestyle, then do something about it. If not, then fuck it. Live with friends and do fun things as long as you can. As long as you make enough money to be independent that is all you need and not irresponsible at all.
I do want a kid so much, but I also don't want my life to be completely controlled by that woman and child for the rest of my life. So I'm left with a decision. Right now I'd lean towards not having a kid. But I'm 23 so who the fuck knows.
>>24779829
christianity 101
christians aren't supposed to hate satan worshippers, they're supposed love them into the family of christ. but that's ok, that's one of the biggest christianity misconceptions that even christians fall for.
but yes, christians are what they hate. they're sinners. it's the reason they need christ. they're sinners with him or without. but with him they're covered by his blood.
my point is that those who hate stacies and chads are just as shallow as stacy and chad is. just as heartless and merciless towards chad and stacy as chad and stacy is merciless to you.
Too much expectation on men these days. Education became harder to do, job requirements became harder, yet we are still expected to achieve as much as much as our predecessors.
>>24779967
i married a virgin christian girl. i recommend it. i taught her how to suck dick and how to fuck. i got straight lucky with my wife. she has also carried me through years of addiction and joblessness and has remained faithful to me.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Hymowitz
>She lives in Brooklyn with her husband and three children.
Funny how women only start to see how bad it really is until their personal investments have to suffer the consequences of their naive youth.
Most of the women who look at these issues are almost always moms.
>>24780009
i felt like u were attacking me desu
>>24780020
this is fucking true. there's far too far expectation on men these days. it's the reason for the male suicide epidemic. but what do we focus on? skank bitches who want to skank it and be called a slut - that's american feminism.
>>24774729
>Feb. 19, 2011 12:01 a.m. ET
>where have all the good men gone?
Right where you left them: in the friend zone.
>>24780078
You're right. I'm drunk and being stupid. We're both on the same page here. It's all good anon.
Do what you want while earning enough to be independent, fuck everything else. it's your life. This is something all robots should live by.
>>24780111
its probably even more true these days lol
but yes its old bait
>>24780111
>>24780155
This. It has absolutely gotten "worse" over the past 5 years.
>>24779846
Exactly what I feel, Thank you based anon
>>24776977
Did HuffPo actually just put together a half-coherent, decently-moderate response to a spasm of neoliberal retardation on the WSJ's part?
The times, they are a-changin'
>>24779373
Getting laid was never hard. Not even in the 1950s.
With women in the workforce the value of as well as the available work diminished. Things that were possible no longer are and that's exactly how people wanted it. Why worry?
>>24776977
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-asghar/where-are-the-good-men-pe_b_826250.html
>btfo
>his solution is the same as it is now, sluts being sluts till used up at 30 then complain about men
>>24779230
It's something most career-driven and -successful women find out a bit too late and without any desire to adapt.
Those who struggle finding a good mate are the ones who still expect said potential mate to be significantly more successful and career-driven than they are (on top of all the other "ideal" properties). By limiting the pool of potential husband material simply through being more successful than, say, 75% of men, you'd think it's bloody obvious why they have difficulty finding one of the remaining 25% of said pool - especially with said 25% not actively solely looking for highly successful women but in general being just as happy with an unsuccessful but loving and caring wife.
There are women out there who are career successful and still married a man who are less so, but those are not the ones you'll hear about as they're not the ones complaining or with a sense of entitlement as the picky ones with such high standards have.
>>24780727
>>24779230
But can't females have relationships and still be "successful an career driven" I don't see why that would stop..
>>24777362
>It also says a lot about him.
That hes living his life how he wishes and is enjoying himself in this short finite existence before eternal death? Good for him imo.
>>24777799
>I have a wife and a kid.
More fool you you realize you can't buy your life back right? Well I mean if you're content with that boring road of predictability existence then fair enough do your thing but stop trying to validate your life decisions by asserting everyone else is in the wrong. Fuck i'm glad im not you and can do what i want when i want and actually enjoy life.
>>24776977
Was going well until he dropped the bomb about how women should marry when their acquired sufficient std repertoire and their ovaries dried up.
trashman.jpg.
>>24775520
Strangely amusing post.
Imagine if the article was reversed
"Women waited until marrying etc instead of wasting time at a job they raised their children"
>>24774899
It is. It's men's responsibility to run society and keep dangers in check since women are incapable of either.
>>24780724
>his solution is the same as it is now, sluts being sluts till used up at 30 then complain about men
The thing is it works for them, because beta providers are willing to give up their pride to put up with a shallow cunt who will cheat on him, divorce him, and take half his shit + alimony.
Women are complaining that this isn't enough, and that they want Chad to commit. He's telling them they're delusional, and that if they want a traditional marriage, their best bet is to settle with a beta.
>>24780871
Would a reverse clickbait site work, or would the triggering content ultimately act as a double edged sword preventing it form being profitable?
>>24780955
There's already a website like that, it's called return of kings
or maybe breitbart too
>>24780759
They certainly can, hence that last sentence >>24780727.
The problem is not that they can't, it's that they won't unless it's with someone even more successful than they are.
To be precise, the problem is that the women who are so successful with their careers but not with relationships are complaining about the latter even though it's their own doing by having such high expectations in a potential husband, without having much more to offer (that is, more to offer that said men might find significant) to the much smaller pool of men than less successful women can offer; all the while they tend to feel entitled to some super-successful man.
Generally to a man who can already easily cover a pretty luxurious life for himself, a potential spouse, and possible kids, having a wife who happens to make enough money for an easy life as well yet not as much as he does (as that'd be her requirement as per above), is just an extra at most.
Those successful and career driven women who do manage to get a ever-so-successful relationship tend to prioritize other requirements in a husband over being at least as successful and career driven (read: at least as wealthy). Complementing personality traits, possibly good father material, while still having his own shit together and capable of independency.
You won't hear me complain about not being able to find a 10/10 looks AND 10/10 personality woman to gf (ad absurdum), or even about average women going for less than average men while I'm pretty much average myself. I don't feel like I'm more entitled to a gf than someone who's "less" than me. People are allowed to choose their own preferences and whatnot; demanding or expecting the world will revolve around giving you what you prefer, though, is silly.
Accepting and understanding that higher requirements or expectations means excluding more people to fit a criteria is something the ones complaining the hardest don't seem to get what so ever.
Post the shit about women rating most men as below average
>>24774855
Why the fuck should I give a flying fuck about society when I'm treated like shit by normalfags for being awkward? Go fuck yourself you stupid nigger.
>>24781661
>Post the shit about women rating most men as below average
Ask and ye shall receive.
>>>24780019
So when someone fucks your shit up. Dont je an asshole ans be nice to them? This thinking is what is wrong in todays mindset
don't you think
>it's all the woman's fault!!
is a simplification of the problem?
As a female I feel the same expectations on myself. Went to college in STEM field, tried to get a job and none was available (2008-2012), my peers who got them had connections. Doing graduate school now but thus far I've had to depend on my parents and so so so much loans and all just for a gamble, hoping it will pay off in the end.
>>24778379
>So now you want off this ride, because even friendships have become a commodity and relationships a threat.
yep
>>24774729
>25
>80k/y
>/fit/
>no desire to marry
Don't worry women, if you want 20 year olds that marry and have kids I'm sure you'll find plenty of bottem-feeding salarymen that want nothing more. Sorry if guys become more put off from your bullshit the more successful they are.
>>24776977
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-asghar/where-are-the-good-men-pe_b_826250.html
>A woman graduating from college should commit to not getting married till her early 30s. That gives her many years to sow her wild oats, to go unapologetically crazy for the guitarists and hipsters and felons, and to be finally rid of them when they drive her crazy. During these times, she should feel no particular duty to torture responsible-but-boring boys with her fickle idealism.
>Then, when she reaches her late 20s, she will be far more skilled at sorting through the trade-offs that are necessary to commit to living with a mortal male for a lifetime. And she'll be more emotionally available to that mortal and imperfect "good man," who may have spent many lonely nights playing video games in his early and mid-20s but who will at least now have her attention.
>Over time, this is a sort of relationship-LASIK -- it gives the single Average American Woman a chance to emerge from her 20s with a clearer view of the opposite sex, and with several good child-bearing years to boot.
This is the definition of being a kuck
>>24782048
no, because women are literally the root of the problem and male beta enabling sjw bootlickers as well.
so either we start regulating female sexuality heavily again by all kinds of material and artificial means or we're literally fucked by dying alone because the standards of women are too fucking crazy at this point. we don't need a small solution, we need THE solution and by that I mean an everlasting big one.
>>24781782
I never understood these charts. How do they know the samples are accurate cross section of all men/women.
>>24774729
wtf is that dumb roastie doing with her hands?
The digital age no longer reward extroverts and women hate it. The men they hate are steadily getting themselves/creating themselves the best jobs whereas technology-illiterate jocks are no longer getting by with their charm and alpha behavior. The guys the love are now poorfags.
WOMEN HATE THIS!
>>24782248
no one is stopping you from not being beta and not service out woman
>>24781782
women are not as visual as men, so you can't compare attraction between the two genders using only one criteria.
>>24782249
not "all", ON AVERAGE.
this literally boils down to biological sexual selection mechanisms inside a female's brain.
they want the whole fucking cake with the most delicious bits in it and toppings and eat it too, no exceptions. even the fat, ugly landwhale next door.
>not just being a woman child and doing the same exact shit these men are doing while having a lucrative career
Fuck dude I can buy a kid if my biological clock goes haywire at 40 who cares
>>24782287
I talk about true collective change and not "jus b urself" normie lies.
>>24778696
>Vaginas
>Smelling great
Pick one
Wait wait wait.
Who gives a fuck about what women wants ? Who gives a fuck about what they think ?
Who gives a fuck ?
>>24781782
>>24781661
Dating site statistics are meaningless for the following reasons:
Most men on dating sites are actually shitty boring betas with identical profiles. So are the women, but they can usually take a decent selfie. If every single mother on a dating site were forced to have their shit-spawn chad kids in their profile pictures too I bet those graphs would even out somewhat.
Men are attracted to women mostly by their looks, which can be conveyed easily through a photo. Women are attracted by confidence, charisma, wit, humor, and lifestyle, most of which cannot be conveyed clearly through an online dating profile, and definitly not through a picture. Most guys don't look very special so relying on photos alone is a misrepresentation of a man's qualities... unless you legit are stunningly hansom.
Online dating is a losing game for everyone involved. Don't waste your time with it.
>>24779773
such a great post my man, you described me almost perfectly and i don't even live in the west, i am in the balkans
globalisation is a very real cancer
>>24782323
you are expecting the law/society to force others to change to cater to your inability instead of fixing yourself
furthermore what you are proposing is going back to the middle age
>normie lies
it is indeed possible to get out of depression, gain self confidence etc
most of /r9k/ guys lust over the most popular, egotistic bitch ( the "stacy") and don't even notice other girls. of course "stacy" doesn't like introverted guys, so the "robot" generalizes this failure experience and project it to the entire society
>>24779773
screencapped and in my goodposts folder.
I shall post it on /r/4chan later
>>24778130
>He should grow the fuck up and will a better job into existence that currently doesn't?
As a man in his 20's, I cannot think of anything as disgusting or off putting as marriage. My only futures are absolute failure and suicide or moderate success wherein I live comfortably, alone, until I start to lose my independence and end it.
>>24782472
Translation for non-English speakers:
>He should grow the fuck up and wish a better job into existence that currently doesn't exist?
The Dowry is a large asset given by the family of the bride to the husband in order to create a marriage contract that actually counteracts Hypergamy.
.
Body
The Dowry concept actually came before what we remember as Marriage 1.0:
The Code of Hammurabi, Babylonian law written in the 1750s BC, provides one of the earliest forms of written law in human history.
(taken from ROK - "Why We Should Reinstitute The Dowry")
So here's how it might work today.
The woman says:
"Why don't we get married?"
The man replies:
"If we are to marry your family must give me $50k as a Dowry which I will place in a Trust Fund which will one day go to our future children."
Woman is stunned, she questions:
"What do you need the $50k Dowry for?"
Man confidently replies:
"Honey, I know you feel love for me today, but a women's feelings can change by the hour. If you want a divorce and we have children I need the Dowry to help pay for child support."
Woman replies:
"But if we are married don't I get half your assets anyway?"
Man explains:
"No, in most cases property or assets acquired before marriage remain in the hands of the original owner. The Dowry would be transferred and the Trust Fund set up before signing the marriage contract. A pre-nuptual could be written to formalize this agreement and eliminate any ambiguities."
Woman feeling shaky says:
"But my family would be horrified if I divorced... they would hate me forever because my failure in marriage would cost them the Dowry."
Man smiles:
"Yes, that would create serious dread for you. It will make you less prone to divorce based on feelings alone."
Woman mumbles:
"Well I don't want to get married then."
.
Conclusion
You want to knock down questions about marriage?
Ask for a Dowry.
.
>>24779681
>muh special semester in italy. muh special foodie restaurants.
I know way too many people like this.
The memes are too real.
>ITT: projection and bitterness
Some guys are pathetic lazy dude bros.
Some women are complete whores and hyper-idealized cunts.
Being salty "uh it's these strawmen generalisation i constructed while i wait for my porn to buffer are my problem! Better bitch on a Taiwanese Meme Board about it!" fucking faggots isn't helping anyone at all, let alone yourselves.
>>2479597
The dude got it spot on, especially with the value exchange part of his comment.
It really is ridiculous how the price of women goes up when their value goes down.
Why do their requirements in a mate go up, when their sole value (physical attractiveness) goes down?
Why are teens fine with a beater a shared apartment, vodka, weed and coachella festival when they are the hottest, while some 32 year old who isnt anywhere near as hot and thin as some of these young girls wants a "career", goals, german car, house, large bank account commitment along with exceedingly high physical requirements.....
Why would I pay a higher a price the more something depreciates?
I love being a manchild. I just eat my tendies, watch wrestling and fap (not at the same time lololol bad boys bad boyd wachugonnado
>>24782920
>Watch wrestling
Gibs WM32 Mainevent predictions mane. This fucking company isn't seriously gonna do Reigns vs Brock again are they?
>Acquire wealth
>6'3", moderately handsome, charismatic introvert
>Bitches get mad as fuck when I won't commit and have three or four on the go at once.
>I just write, play piano, watch cool shit and have good times with my friends
>Never getting married, never having kids
I draw energy from how absolutely furious I make the aging women in my life simply by living such a satisfying life.
>>24774729
>In 1970, just 16% of Americans ages 25 to 29
Marrying at such young age is retarded, specially now that people can easily live to their 80s or more.
I'm 29, no debt, some cash in the bank, PhD and have a good job. I'm finally truly free and master of my own destiny. Let me enjoy it for a few years and give me time to build up more resources so I can not only provide for my future family but also sleep well at night knowing that even if I suddenly die, they'll will flourish.
Every single moral and economic issues we have nowadays comes from foolish rushed life changing decisions.
>>24775291
>whores
>they don't sleep with you
pick one, loser
theres one retard who posts threads like this crying about man children all the time on /pol/ too
I think it's the most delicious thing ever, women are getting exactly what they deserve
>overwhelming vote for socialist policies
>neuter masculinity in children in schools, give huge amount of boys things like ritalin for being boisterous (male)
>remove basically all of the rewards for being a man. You aren't the leader of your household, you have to accommodate women in the workplace who are 90% of the time less efficient than you, and require a complete change of working environment
>break up male dominated clubs, work groups, etc with female affirmative action
>feminism in general
>Do this for years and years and then wonder 'where have all the men gone' when you've essentially taken away all of the historical rewards for being an 'man' in society and wonder why men (logical creatures) dont tell your society to go and fuck itself and do their own thing
Seriously, im 22, finished university this year, been working part time jobs since i was 16, and saved nearly all of it so i've got plenty of money for a car and a down payment on a place of my own once i get a job. Meanwhile roasties and their chasers were busy going out getting shitfaced, going on stupid holidays to ibiza or magaluf etc and generally being careless.
However, these were the guys getting women, the social, outward ones. Then these women hit the wall and want the smart men who have saved and built a future for themselves.
Rather than trying to figure out why men aren't getting married, aren't being traditional male (incidentally an idea that feminists have been trying to destroy for years now) why dont you answer me this
Why would a mid 20's male with a fair amount of savings but a good future ahead of him want to saddle himself with you? What do you offer?
>>24774729
Feminism has made it so being a 'real man' isn't worthwhile. Good job, women, you broke men
People are misguided in thinking that feminism is responsible for this catastrophe. In reality feminism stems from the same root as the decline of males: economy. The prosperity of any nation, people forget, depends more than anything on the economy. The economy is in its last phases before the big collapse that will have no recovery. It's the economic climate which brings about male passivity and feminism. Feminism is actually just the female-version of how human beings react to this malaise in modern society. It's a byproduct of economic collapse.
>>24783299
The funny thing is most women immediately answer with their most primal role; Sex and Children. Which is amusing since that's the gender role they try to strive away from so much.
Then they like to bring up things like 'love' 'companionship' etc. Which to some, i suppose is very important, but consider the cost it comes at. You want the roastie to love you, because you need to be loved, a roastie can usually find a whole backlog of people to take her, so she has the power in the relationship (supply and demand) This means you're entering her realm. Sex? When she feels like it, don't pressure her! thats rape now didn't you hear? And of course she's going to want the relationship to move along, you might think you're doing just fine but then all of a sudden you get the 'where is this going?'#
Well where is it? Marriage? An institution that is now MORE likely to fail than it is to succeed? Do remember that if you want to take your chances and your luck turns sour, you have the divorce courts to toy with. I'm sure you all know just how balanced and fair those are to men these days right? And god forbid you have children. So, is a chance at 'love' and 'companionship' worth it?
So striking the emotional responses, sure theres still sex and kids. And hey a lot of people want kids, want to be dads, there's nothing wrong with that. Sex is easier to buy than ever. And any man who says he doesn't want to pay for sex, 9/10 times ends up paying more for it anyway than if he'd just called up a hooker. Dates, movie tickets, gifts, the petrol driving her here and there, meals at restaurants, etc etc. Girlfriends fucking eat money. And remember the sex is still on her terms, 'she has a headache anon!'
Kids is the big one. Fuck i'd like to have kids too. But i simply weigh the costs to the benefits and the sad fact is, to have kids in your life, you have to have a woman, and to me, that's too big a risk to take.
>>24774729
>The author is literally an unattractive jewish womyn
>>24782417
>you are expecting the law/society to force others to change to cater to your inability instead of fixing yourself
what has this to do with myself? that's not my fucking point. how many times do I have to make that clear? you fucking idiot.
>>24778696
Prostitutes anon
Prostitutes
They give all that and without the "go to expensive restaurant" bullshit
Personally i am happy as fuck with today's society, i can be a huge fucking manchild and find other manchildren and indulge in our fun as fuck hobbies instead of chasing a woman and her 9000 orbiters who are after the same pussy as me. Nope, screw that. Vidya it is
>>24775520
>/tg/ homebrews
/tg/ and /toy/ are strangely good boards. You wouldn't expect them to be that good but they are
I hope society collapses and forces men and women to man and woman up
>>24783242
>Roasted and Toasted
Listen Hiroshima, just fucking pass my comment and stop muting me
>>24777552
none of you guys even sound like you are trying at all
>>24779773
Screencapped.
God-tier post.
>>24783972
Seriously, when is this dumbass "original comment" bullshit gonna end? It's getting near impossible to post, we shouldn't have to write a fucking essay everytime.
>>24784242
>>>/b/
They made a board for stupid fuckers like you
>>24782754
>Know literal perfection woman
>She's 28
>Met her boyfriend in highschool
The ones that aren't shit sell out fast.
>>24776977
> "Marriage should be delayed, even more than it it now."
If he can't even proofread the article, how can I be expected to take it seriously?
>>24784457
> The ones that aren't shit sell out fast.
Yep. Girls who are really into monogamy and commitment tend to stay with one guy for long periods of time, so they're not in the dating pool very often. That's why it seems like all girls are whores - because the non-whores have already found their husbando.
I'm a good man
I'm right here
Name one reason for a man to get married in 2015.
>>24784504
>Massive weeb
>Speaks moon
>Has a career
>PCfag
>Codes
>Wants to be self sufficient
>Dry sense of humor
>/fit/
>Criticizes femnazis
>Small and cute
She's perfection, ticks all boxes for me. I try not to think about her because it makes me sad. ;_;
>>24784696
I've heard there are tax incentives but I never looked into it and it probably varies wildly by country, anyone got any ideas about that?
>>24780130
Based
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>maladroit geeks
Yup, I guess that's me
I think a lot of it has to do with how much entertainment is available. It's easy to distract yourself which somewhat removes the need for social interaction.
I know I'm probably addicted to consuming media. I'd like to become more mature and get a gf etc. but have no idea how to meet girls.
>>24779765
>A wife could bring extra income
This is a lie.I am married.
why the fuck would I do something as morally untenable as father a child?
>>24779597
>To be your average married chump is an absolutely soul-destroying experience. I've seen it happen to friends of mine. As soon as you get married to a broad, you can say goodbye to your freedom and goodbye to all your aspirations and dreams
I just want to play video games and talk to my internet friends again. ;_;
>You're sad because no gf!
>You need a gf!
Th-Thanks for the advice, /r9k/...
>>24786058
lol jus bee yur self
>>24785941
>fatherhood
>morally untenable
wut?
>>24783385
I don't think is even ethical to raise a child considering the modern social trends.
>>24783385
>>24783385
>He doesn't know about prenup surrogates
Nigga jump on that train, you pay a hefty one time price of 20,000$, cheaper if it's from Eastern europe if you still wanna white baby.
This is my entire plan.
>Get Polish or Ukrainian woman to be surrogate
>Give her a bonus 5000$ if she stays away from Alcohol the entire pregnancy
>Take her to china
>Engineer the child so that it will be a boy, maybe twins. He or they don't have to be perfect but I want to engineer all my defects out of them like depression/cancer/heart problems etc.
At the end of it all, I will be in the hole about 50-90,000$ But I will have kids
>>24786152
That's what "they" want you to do.
>>24786262
>muh conspiracy
>>24786274
Take a look at the world and tell me with a straight face that there is no one anywhere engaging in any sort of social engineering.
>>24786262
>????
>>24786274
It's painfully obvious at this point anon.
>>24786311
To raise children anymore.
>>24786310
>social engineering
Just pure greed is enough to make the world a worse place for everyone. No conspiracy or surgical planning required.
>Tfw 23
>Literally been to war, got a stable job out of the military, saved a fuck tonne of money, invested in a small business which is growing, spend most of my spare time at the gym, playing video games and chilling with my bros.
>Mfw the media tells me I'm not a man until i provide for some slut who will divorce me in the future anyway? get rekt mate.
Marriage and family is fucking dead, and its not men to blame.
>>24774899
We have jobs, we have pussies and we have wombs. What more do you want?
>>24786274
The government and other highly powerful groups have already been linked to social engineering to support feminism and other groups like #BLM,etc.
These groups are highly toxic to any society both short and long term.
>>24774729
This article would only work if it assumes that while men have changed values, women haven't. Both have changed, both changed in harmony, and it works for both parties. Yes, some women do want to have families earlier, but these women just date guys a few years their senior, so it all works out.
>>24786311
So I foist consciousness upon another person in turbulent times to spite the Jews? You are a strange man anon
>>24786343
They want a companion that enjoys their interests and company. In some cultures men and women, even married, don't live together. Women these days expect a best friend - which means doing what she wants.
>>24786355
Nobody in public wants to look like a sexist or racist. These powerful groups will support any movement that will give them more power. The sad fact is that most people would rather be sheep and feel accepted, than be quiet and feel isolated.
>>24786338
And people conspire in terms of greed.
>>24774855
Making college the new highschool added on another 4 years. There's nothing wrong with guys doing that shit into their mid 20s and then springboard into a professional career sometime between 22 and 25, but it is a bit sad to see guys in their late 20s acting that way, or people who have made no progress.
It's just a phase anyways. The sheer number of kids going to college in unprecedented and many European nations are already changing the rules by having more kids take apprenticeships, or put them through vocational training starting at 16 instead of 18. Just like many things, Canada and the US will eventually catch on after the overwhelming positive evidence from countries like Germany and Denmark are just too much to ignore.
>>24782371
They want BBC and if you don't have it they search elsewhere.
>>24780130
I actually have this book. Good read. Frustrating truth to swallow. But nonetheless, a real eye opener.
