>>24758656
I'm not someone who has a normal life, but I want to tell you a bit of my story and give you some advice because you're in a similar situation.

I'm 25 years old, soon to be 26, and I'm a friendless, KHHV NEET who's never had a job. I've always suffered from anxiety and once I hit puberty developed sleep issues which made everything twice as bad. I quit high school at 16 due to anxiety even though I could've probably made friends and made it through just fine if only I had just tried not to let my anxiety rule my life. I ended up taking some college classes a few years later, and I was doing better, even had a few conversations with people, but I let anxiety stop me from befriending anyone, and ended up getting disinterested and lazy after one semester and quitting. I've been NEET again ever since.

This isn't what I wanted my life to be. In hindsight, I wish I had kept going with college, and even if I lost interest in what I was studying, I should've just studied something else. I should've let people be my friend and maybe I wouldn't have ended up alone and miserable. Now I hate my life but I feel like it's too late to start over. I'm far too old to just now be going to college and trying to get a job after a couple more years.

My advice to you is to fore yourself to do something. Even if it's just some college classes you aren't passionate about, you might make friends or figure out what your actual passion is, and at the very least you'll keep yourself from falling into deep NEEThood.

If you do have a passion already, consider yourself lucky and stop at nothing to do it. The one thing I wish for most in life is to find a passion I actually care enough about to pursue against the odds.

http://www.redpillhandbook.com/

>>24758878
Continued:

If you want to get a job instead, just keep applying and don't stop until you land something. I have trouble finding the motivation to try to get a job I wouldn't like, but the fact of the matter is that any job would be a good stepping stone towards meeting people, gaining social skills, gaining life skills, and eventually moving on to better things.

Also when it comes to driving, keep in mind that almost everybody out there driving on a daily basis is a horrible driver, but they do it anyway. If you live in the US and aren't in a city with public transportation, you're basically forced to drive in order to partake in society. If you try your best to be safe about it and don't do stupid things like using the phone while driving or driving drunk, you're already a better driver than half the population.

In summary: force yourself to do something with your life. Unless you want to be a NEET until you die an early death, pick another option. If every other option seems miserable, pick the least miserable one. The sooner you do it, the better. In hindsight, getting out of being NEET seems 10x more difficult at 25 than it did when I was 20.

I know this is a wall of text, but if it helps even one person in a similar situation, it will have been worth it to me.

>>24758656
I'm still lonely, but I'm also much happier and confident. What changed is:
>I got a job
Having something to do rather than being NEET keeps the feels away. I'm too busy most of the time to really feel bad. Having my own money is also a huge plus.
>found a hobby I like and improved at
I taught myself guitar and piano. And got pretty decent at it. That was a huge boost in self esteem, seeing progress and eventually becoming impressive.
>exercise
I'm still too anxious to go to the gym, but I exercise at home every morning every night
>no porn/jerking off
This is a more recent one. It's still very tempting, but I feel better to have that shit out of my life. I feel slightly more confident. No matter how you look at it, sitting in a dark room watching other people fuck to get off is just a bit pathetic.
>meditation
Also relatively recent, I can't tell how helpful it is, but seems worthwhile.
I haven't turned my life around, but I feel pretty content with myself now, and more comfortable. Before I felt constantly dysphoric and depressed. Now I feel calmer, and more at peace.

>>24758656
Getting jobs is actually ridiculously easy, so go and get one and don't worry about how well you do with it and if you don't like it, quit and try something else.

>>24758878
>>24758960
Thanks, man. Consider it worth it. I really appreciate your response. I think I could easily end up still being a NEET as well in 5+ years if I don't do something soon. The past two years have flown by like they were nothing, and I know that time will just keep going by more quickly as I get older. I'll do my best to take your advice and force myself to do something even if it's not something I particularly enjoy. It's kind of what I've been trying to do, but it still helps to see it coming from another person. The stuff about the driving raised my spirits a bit too.

>>24758922
Thanks for the input, anon. I'll look into it.

>>24759012
This helps a lot too. I'm also too anxious to actually get to the gym yet, but I picked up exercising at home last spring and I'm in the best shape of my life. So far it's at least helped my self confidence which I'm sure will help with other things in the future. I haven't tried meditating or no-fap yet, but I'll definitely consider it. As for working on a hobby and finding a job, I really hope to figure that out ASAP. Thanks for the advice!

>>24759066
I've applied here and there with no luck. I just really need to broaden my search. Thanks for the tip, though. That is a good point

>>24758656
It's good you realize that at 20. I'm doing better now but sadly it's rather late for me socially... But I'm getting better :

A few points :
- Force yourself to go in every social situations you can. Even if I end up being awkward I don't care anymore, as it helps me doing progresses.
- Try to look friendly and approachable. Just force yourself to small talk. If you're not really sure if you should say something say it anyway. Again if it's autistic you'll learn from that. If you say nothing you'll shut yourself. If you don't have friends just go to the hairdresser or butcher to discuss about your hair or meat or whatever.
- Create a normiebook. You can hide your number of friends and a lot of people have decent social lives while not posting updates there.
- Lift weight. It won't turn you into a Chad unless all your issues stem from a shit tier body. But it helps knowing you can physically dominate all non trained males around you. Best thing is finding a small weightlifting club. I made great acquaintances in my first club after being awkward the first few months, and they were all very accepting of my personality even when I was being myself aka a grown autistic manchildren. Had no problem integrating in my new club where a girl complimented me on various body parts which boosted my confidence a lot.
- Learn how to cook. I ate the same (rather healthy) stuff everyday and didn't realize how it was depressing. Now I try new shit. And again some girl I didn't know (was spending some time at a friend place) really enjoyed some regional recipe I made and it boosted my self esteem.
- Note what you need and want to do and force yourself to go through it. Exposure and 'avoiding avoidance' are key. Motivation is shit but discipline is your friend.

>>24759182
This actually helps a lot. Thanks a ton. It's not like I haven't considered many of these things before, but it's really hard to take my own advice. It's funny that you mentioned normiebook. I actually enabled my account again after a 1-2 year hiatus and it seems like everyone my age has gotten off of it as well, and the ones that remain just share pointless page posts rather than talk about their social lives like how I remembered it was in the past.

The cooking thing is great advice. I always cook my own meals as well, and I enjoy it but I never get very creative. I think I'll look into making dishes that might actually have the potential to impress other people in the future.

I've been considering lifting weights for a while, I just hate the idea of going to the gym and interacting with people who likely have a lot more weightlifting experience than I do. A weightlifting club sounds like it might be a good idea. How did you find yours, and were there any others in there with similar circumstances as you?

>>24759431
Basically I lived in semi-isolation from age 17 to 19 because I chose the wrong major in the wrong Yuro college (5 people class, no extra activites to do there). And had no idea bout the normal social lives of people. I realized how normiebook/especially messenger make it so much easier to integrate yourself. Fuck. Didn't realize how it outcasted me because I had no idea about the current technology.

What's great about cooking is that you can cook great tasting stuff without trying too hard. I like to find original local regional recipes that are generally well received. Then you can become more adventurous and take more risks.

I did starting strength in a fitness gym where I talked to nobody for a year (was extremely anxious going there at first). Then I joined a small oly lifting club in the town I moved in and did the same... but as it's a sport with a team etc... I integrated as people would talk to me and were friendly and you have a lot of free time there. I gained confidence from that as I realize people were very honest there. But people were generally more open in that city, it's a bit harder in my new club/town but I have no problem interacting with people there.

>>24759431
I knew a few loners in my previous club. A lot of people there had some issues or their own personality. Could even get along with one very friendly Chad there. I met who I consider as my best friend (we can talk about our issues with one another) there. He is some kind of edgy weirdo with the strangest outfits but is a pretty cool dude. In my new club there's a rather shy STEM guy right now. I and others make light fun of him but are very helpful and the other day he made fun of me for the first time which was cool.
It may be different in your country/place though.

>>24758656

I've got no real advice to offer you anon, only camaraderie. 22, almost 23 here, no meaningful job experience, still haven't picked a major (probably dropping out and getting a minimum wagekek job next semester)

Some good advice so far itt, will be monitoring...

>>24759616
>>24759686
Thanks for the reply. I'm in the Midwestern US but I'll see if there's anything like that for me here in my city. It sounds like something like that could really help me out if I can just manage to get over the initial hurdle of getting into it in the first place and meeting new people. I think getting into any organized group would help, but obviously a fitness one would have its own additional benefits that come along with it, so that draws me in even though it's intimidating as fuck to think about right now.

>>24759751
I appreciate the reply anon. I'm sorry you're in that situation, but I'm glad you're finding some advice in here and I hope things get better for you. Same goes for anyone else reading and/or posting.

>>24759798
It's intimidating at first but any decent organized club would be friendly with you. If you're doing well in term of discipline and food you'll progress pretty fast. As I said I lifted in a fitness club and kept delaying joining it and was almost shaking when registering. My first few sessions were awkward but a few months later some people were already telling me I'm pretty strong because I was religiously following my routine and died. I became fat, then lost weight, switched to oly and now am now a decent athlete with a decent body. I get points for my club and qualified for the national university championships (minima are low though but it's still a lot of work to get there).
Don't know shit about the US but aren't Midwest people generally nice? And even if you end up in the worst shithole gym just keep trying until you're muscular, powerful or strong.

>>24758656

Be glad you realized this at 20. I realized it too late, became a "wizard" and now there's no turning back in my life. I don't even bother trying anymore.

The advice in this thread is pretty good. You can do this OP.

>>24759884
*and diet, not 'and died' lmao.

>>>/adv/

Go to trade school (plumbing, HVAC, electrician, whatever), hang out with work buddies, go from there.

>>24759884
Midwest people are generally pretty nice, yeah. It's not so much that I'm afraid they'll be mean to me or something, it's just this unnecessary aversion I have to meeting new people, even the good ones. And I need to get over that. I like to think I'm a pretty disciplined person when I make an effort to be, so hopefully I'll be able to start something like this and see some of the same benefits you have. You've helped me out a lot today, anon. Thank you. And congrats on making those championships. You should be proud of yourself.

>>24759910
Thanks for the positive words, man. Maybe there's still hope for you, though. How old are you now?

>>24760073

I'm 31 now.

>>24758656
When it comes to finding a job, it can't be helped, there's no easy way out, you just have to man up and look for it.

Practice your driving.

Force yourself into social situations that give you anxiety, for example I think couchsurfing is a way to go.

>>24760073
This aversion and anxiety will go away very very fast. Just find a place where you can lift, schedule a date when you'll go and do it.
Thanks brah I'm a bit proud though I have to fix a lot of other stuff from the past and present to feel fine. Glad I could help.

>>24759997
Thanks, I've been considering trade school too. I just don't want to get stuck only knowing how to do something for the rest of my life that I hate doing. I realize that beggars can't be choosers though, so I might still go that route.

>>24760092
Well I can't help much, being in the situation I'm in now. But I'm sure there's still some things you can do. Maybe not as many opportunities as when you were younger, but on the bright side you're still a lot closer to your 20s than to your 40s. Whatever happens to you, I hope things get better. Best of luck to you, anon.

>>24760131
This is kind of how I've been looking at it too. I know in the end I'm really the only person who can get myself a job. That leads into the next thing. A job will give me a good reason to get out and practice my driving, other than the obvious financial reasons. I'm not sure I'd be personally into couchsurfing, but it seems like a really cool service and I'm sure it would be a great option for other people in this type of situation. I'll keep it in mind in the future if I still haven't figured out what to do.