Why are most women so staunchly in favor of abortion? Is it so they can slut it up with Chad without consequences?
>>24719995
>why do people like things that give them more power and options
wow it's a mystery OP i don't think we will ever figure it out
professional fucking tip: 99% of all political positiosn that people hold are done only out of unashamed self-interest. Even if it is intellectually dishonest or hurts other people, they will support it as long as it benefits them. Nobody cares about fairness or what is best for most people, they are only interested in what gives them, personally, the most benefits. Congratz you just realized the human race is a piece of shit.
it's just a fetus senpai you're not alive until you're born if you fuced some qt and she got pregnant would you really want to raise the kid?
>>24720083
>i don't want to take responsibility for my mistakes so murder is justified
>You now realize unborn bald eagles have more rights than unborn humans
Disgusting.
cue libtards arguing that fetuses aren't people which literally no one believes
pro-life and pro-choice argue about two different things but when pro-choice shift their argument towards why pro-life is wrong they come off as assholes
>>24719995
Women were never supposed to be promiscuous. Freedom of sexuality is all a big fad.
>>24720246
>Freedom of sexuality is all a big fad
>fad
even if it's temporary, it won't be a fad because fads never come back
but freedom of sexuality will come back eventually because women are naturally promiscuous so when you give them other freedoms, they'll demand freedom of sexuality and sooner or later they'll get it
>>24719995
Yep abortions are the lowest thing a person can do. Its just a sick barbaric way for people to get out of their responsibility. If you can't handle raising a child don't have sex but god forbid people show a little restraint. Better murder a baby so I don't have to own up to my poor life choices. Inb4 their not even alive yet. If your mom had an abortion you wouldn't be here right now arguing. The only reason a person should have an abortion is for massive birth defects or rape. Getting one because you can't keep your legs shut shouldn't even be an option
>>24719995
That has to be one of the reasons, and it is great for them and for us.
> entire argument has devolved into name-calling and flamewars and nobody remembers what they're actually fighting about
Maybe we could just get some respected biologists do some analysis and decide at what point a fetus is a human.
Oh wait that'd oppress women and make God upset. Better waste everybody's time arguing about semantics before somebody tries to solve a real issue.
>>24720291
>Women are naturally promiscuous. Sooner or later they'll get it.
>>24720443
>Maybe we could just get some respected biologists do some analysis and decide at what point a fetus is a human.
That question is undecidable, because people grow on a continuum. They can choose some moment, X, but then you can always ask what changed between X and X - 1 second, and the answer will be nothing.
>>24720344
why is it ok to murder a rape baby but not a consequences baby
>>24720124
If enough people agree with you you're good to go.
Abortion is the best thing a woman could do. Stop getting butthurt about women having control over their reproductive choices, an aborted fetus is just one less soul that will suffer the curse of existence.
>>24720443
Pro-life defenders tend to use emotion instead of reason to prove their points. Offer them a basic explanation as to how a foetus is a bundle of cells, and they'll most likely froth at the mouth, call you a sick liberal that's fucked in the head, and point fingers at the savage, murderous heretic-whores that are apparently too lazy and stupid to raise a child.
10 weeks
The embryo has become a fetus. His vital organs (such as kidneys, intestines, brain, and liver) are starting to function. Tiny fingernails and toenails are forming.
If it doesnt have a functioning brain its not a human. If science managed to make a full human adult body without a brain and made it function through external stimulation noone would call that a human..
if the fetus is a fetus and has a brain, then its a human. a really small, not still fully developed human. but if it doesnt have a human brain its not a human.
>>24720665
Edgiest thing I've heard all day. Well done anon.
>>24720733
This. I can't remember the exact date, but once it's got organs and a brain it becomes hard to argue that it's just a clump of cells.
I don't really give a shit about the debate because it's devolved into a nationwide YouTube comment section, but I agree with your point.
>>24720733
Is the potential of becoming a human worthless then?
>>24719995
Pretty much. They be like: Harrumph!!
I want to have freedom to be a dirty little skank and destroy the concept of a strong family without any of the consequences of raising a kid.....
Planned Parenthood clinics are sick too they really do some messed up things with the aborted fetuses, selling to scientist is the tamest of these.... Dark Satanic shit. You bet
>>24720781
Bringing life into this world is edgy.
>>24720890
of course. at this point, its just a bunch of cells. its not human because it doesnt have a human brain.
if its not human its not murder, so you can murder if its necessary. If the carrier of said clump of cells decides that she doesnt want to carry it anymore, then you have no right to argue, it would be like cutting off your ear.
if it has a brain, the story is different. its a small human, so it is murder.
>>24720954
Babies are fucking metal.
>>24720969
That's not answering my question at all. I said potential.
>>24719995
because its their choice their right to raise children.
>>24720046
then explain commies
these first world upper middle class white teenagers are advocating an ideology which would strip them of all of their luxuries that they've grown accustomed to like their iphones and their chai lattes and redistribute them municipally then throw them in to a militaristic society filled with cannibalism and decay
there has to be something other than self interest playing in here
>>24721136
>something else at play
Yes it's called angst teens that don't know shit.
>>24720124
Yes because we need more kids with parents that don't want them.
>>24720344
>If your mom had an abortion you wouldn't be here right now arguing.
Is this supposed to be in favor? I would be totally fine with that. Remember which board you are on.
Also if you get fat, you shouldn't be allowed to change. Deal with your mistakes! Or if you get in a car accident, deal with it! Don't care how fucked you are!
>>24720704
Pro Lifers here are only pro lifers because they really hate women and want them all to suffer and be relegated to cum dumpsters.
>>24720890
You guys asked when is it a human, anon gave an educated response and now we delve to this? I guess stop masterbating because all that sperm has the potential to become humans. Actually don't even orgasm because only 1 of the billions of ejaculated sperm can become a human and you are wasting too much potential.
>>24721136
>then explain commies
They don't understand what the implementation actually entails. They believe that it just makes everyone equal, and society will develop faster and better. They don't get that it would make everyone poor.
Abortion=less degenerates.
I personally would never get an abortion, but that's because I'm an empathetic person, and know I would feel such immense guilt that I wouldn't be able to get over it. People who are willing to get abortions are largely the people who SHOULDNT be having children and would make shitty parents.
Also this
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf
>>24721012
the potential to be something doesnt mean at all that you are something, i dont even know what point youre trying to make here.
a tree is not a caravel, a lump of ore is not a scalpel and an embryo is not a human.
>>24721275
>Abortion=less degenerates.
People who are willing to get abortions are largely the people who SHOULDNT be having children and would make shitty parents.
Agreed on both.
>>24721136
they dont realize that they ar upper middle class.
they genuinely believe they are the norm, and that poor/less wealthy people are just an exception. they live in a bubble of istagram and reddit.
they actually believe that 'everyone equal' means 'iphones and lattes for everyone'
>>24720969
So if somebody is injured in the head and temporally retarded it is ok to kill them, even if the doctors are positive the somebody will make a full recovery.
Or a robot because their brain is obviously not functioning like that of a human chad.
>>24719995
>Why are most women so staunchly in favor of abortion? Is it so they can slut it up with Chad without consequences?
Think of all the "melanin-enhanced" babies that will not grow up to rob convenience stores, rape white women, and fill up the prisons on the tax payers' dime. I'm all for abortion.
>women want to be empowered
>Still get upset when Chad cheats
>Normies fighting amongst themselves
>Robots sit on the sidelines and watch the chaos unfold
Have fun I guess....
>>24721266
> assuming victim of your education system and not retarded
There is no way a sperm cell has the potential to become a human.
>>24721326
Abortion is just low key eugenics imho. And in some cases, it's better for the potential baby to die before its born.
Like I watched a doc about the doctors in the us that do late term abortions (where the fetus would be viable out of the womb) and most of the people on the doc getting those abortions were heart broken about it.
One was a married lady who desperately wanted a child, but the fetus had so many deformities that it wouldn't be able to live past like 3 months, and they would spend those three months in immense pain, in the hospital, attached to tubes. The woman decided to abort and it was so heart breaking, because you could tell she would've made a great mother. The poor woman was crying so much.
>tfw the family held a funeral for their unborn child that they had to mercy kill
So sad
>>24721384
no, that is already a human with a brain. the embryo does not have a functioning brain. when the brain starts working, at 10 weeks, it is a human. it cannot think yet, and probably has roughly the intelligence as a fish.
A retarded human is still a human. Same goes with insanity, depression and even vegetative states. They all have a brain that mantains the body in working order.
Again, if i made a complete human body in my basement and made it work, that wouldnt be a human.
>>24720954
>>24720994
>DARKNESS, IMPRISONING ME, ABSOLUTE HORROR, DUHDUHDUHDUHDUHH
>>24721266
>Also if you get fat, you shouldn't be allowed to change. Deal with your mistakes! Or if you get in a car accident, deal with it! Don't care how fucked you are!
I can't even what. What a cogent analogy. You totally murder someone when you lose weight. Or go through therapy to recover from a car accident.
>>24721562
> says "have a brain" to refute my post, argue like "have a working brain"
>>24721266
You lost credibility when you started being sarcastic desu
>>24721712
im a robot and my brain works. a guy with downs still has a brain, and it works. Both dont work like a "normal" brain, but they still move our body.
Regardless, an embyo doesnt have a full brain, and it does not work at all.
>>24722008
Is an embryo another species?
>>24722090
it is not a 'species' of anything because its not alive. its a part of the mother until it gets its own functioning brain and becomes another separate human. Its like arguing that a tumor is a human because it carries genetical information, grows and it comes from a human.
>>Again, if i made a complete human body in my basement and made it work, that wouldnt be a human.
>>24720083
Of I'm sleeping with someone it's because I married them you fucking degenerate slime. So yes.
>>24719995
My uterus, my rules.
Friendly reminder that the anti-abortion propaganda is designed to keep a cheap supply of labour flowing through the generations.
Your right wing conservative overlords do not care about you, America. Stop allowing yourselves to be brainwashed.
>>24722205
But it's called a human embryo. It's categorization under scientific terms would be Homo sapiens.
And what of the very unfortunate people born without brains? Are they not human? How much of a brain do you need to be human?
>>24722396
Friendly reminder that low birth rates are leading to the downfall of the West.
>>24721136
it makes them look cool to their peers, and they don't actually have to do anything. it's all talk m8
>>24722334
Murderous slut. I hope you wind up barren.
>>24722428
>people born without brains
no, those are not human. thats a lifeless body. none of their organs work on their own.
>how much of a brain do you need to be human
can you live? do you have a human brain? youre a human.
A human in a vegetative state has a brain that controls the rest of the body and the functions of all organs. its still a human.
A human without a brain is not alive.
>>24722396
Pull it.
>>24722584
>being this delusional
fembots don't exist senpai desu
>>24722597
Anencephaly means that an infant just has a brain stem and no developed brain. Are they human?
>>24721136
These upper-class students almost always end up in charge of socialist states.
>>24720083
>its not alive
>not alive
You are mentally retarded, and undoubtedly a cum guzzling slut loser of a woman.
Yes there are some people that just want to have lots of casual sex and shit and be careless with some abortions. But that is not what abortion is for. Most women that get them made a one-time mistake or something and don't want the course of their entire life by having a baby when they aren't ready. It's some simple shit, friends. It's not worth outlawing because a small percentage of people do it with seemingly-immoral purposes in mind. Same with welfare. Some people do just abuse that shit to be lazy; but a lot of people genuinely need that shit because they need help getting on their feet.
I am done ranting now.
>>24722813
>Most women that get them made a one-time mistake or something and don't want the course of their entire life by having a baby when they aren't ready
>I can't take responsibility for my mistakes so I will kill this human instead.
>>24722651
Depends on what kind of anencephaly, honestly.
Merocrania, yes, sadly. They are technically dead humans that were never alive, so make of that what you will.
Holocrania, no.
According to the definition of brain death, (failure of heart, lungs, whole brain or neocortical death), anencephaly is technically neocortical death, as there is a permanent loss of consciousness.
>>24722937
>no consciousness at all
>>24720124
>>24720344
>>24722584
>Religion is relevant in the 21st century
Kek, I thought robots were supposed to be smart.
>>24722702
>I don't take care of myself enough to have had any sexual partners
>Better criticize the sexuality of someone who has their life on track
>>24723185
Religion is significantly more relevant in the 21st century than it has ever been before. It gives you insight into how other people think, and that's all that matters now.
>>24723285
>Religion is significantly more relevant in the 21st century than it has ever been before.
Read a book m8
>>24723031
I don't know the context here but you in no way can prove lack of consciousness in a fetus if that's what you're talking about. Especially considering its inside and nurturing off a (somewhat) conscious being.
>>24723285
>it gives you insight into what people think
>implying religious people even read their holy book
>implying christians sell their possesions and give to the poor (luke 12 33)
>implying all muslims are nice to orphans, speak nicely and help the poor ( 2:83 )
religion in 2015 is like your sports team. your parents tell you youre christian, so you are.
>>24723311
>It gives you insight into how other people think
Maybe you should learn to read m80.
>>24723425
Nigga that shit ain't developed. I'm gonna get my gf pregnant and have her get an abortion just to spite you.
>>24723425
you can prove lack of consciousness with a PET
>>24723443
Literally this.
Anyone who actually tries to defend organized religion or faith is probably poor.
>>24720344
/thread
rosties it's time to pack up. Can't refute this with muh body.
>>24720733
It's a human at conception, the more important question is when does it become a person?
>>24722008
Embryos move and try to avoid the abortionists instruments. Maybe you should watch how an abortion is done, you are obviously trapped in a false "lump of cells" mentality.
>>24723626
>Raise (or rather don't raise) a fuck-up who will be in poor health his whole life, getting taxpayer dollars from the government, spending money on drugs and committing violent crimes, then having unprotected sex with someone, further spreading disease and creating the next generation of criminal, before going to prison and sucking more money from the system until his death.
>Remove a couple of cells
Yeah man jeez let's not support murderers, that would be unethical or something.
>>24722584
lol murder
>>24723626
one word: eugenics. plus it doesn't matter if abortion is illegal, because i'd still get one christfags
women have every right to govern what grows in their bodies. after all, it is their bodies. bodily autonomy>pack of cells.
>>24723723
except it is a lump of cells or some gross, gooey thing
>>24723781
> "Muh, they will turn up to be criminal so better kill preemtively"
Thats the eugenics spirit, well done.
>>24722813
You've come to a false conclusion on abortion through your own conjecture of what it SHOULD be.
lastly, you can ban abortion all you want, but you will only kill women. you won't be saving any "lives". i know u all probably want those women dead, but you would still not be stopping abortion.
>>24723878
>leftie getting mad some people don't approve of sluts running around fucking 100s of guys before 'settling down' to reap marriage benefits
>an entire thread dedicated to women slutting it up and legions of white knight robots coming to defend them
Women should be chained up in the sculleries used for breeding purposes only. If you aren't in agreement with this, you aren't a robot.
>>24723967
ITT: anti-choicers raging about cell "lives"
>>24723723
depending on the stage of the pregnancy at the time of the abortion, it can be done through forced miscarriage, vaccum aspiration or surgical extraction.
I only defend abortion up to 10 weeks, and suction termination is the way to go until 15, so thats the way to go.
an embryo cannot try to avoid the medical abortion.
an embryo cannot try to avoid the vaccum extraction
the only way a baby could "move and try to avoid the abortionists instruments" is in a surgical extraction, which is only done with fetuses, because it is too big to be sucked out of the cervix. An almost full formed fetus can obviously move and respond to external stimulation, thats part of the reason on why its a human being and should not be killed.also embryos cannot move at all, they dont have enough muscle tissue, so your point is wrong regardless
>>24723996
do you believe a woman should be able to have more than one partner in life?
if so, fuck off you c uck
>>24721136
>lower class people wonder why they aren't rich
>decide to lynch the upper class in a jealous rage
>everyone is equally impoverished
how is that not blind self interest and hate?
also most of the teens who advocate for communism see it as a fantasy and not a reality, it wouldn't work.
>>24724047
obviously i do
>>24723967
>>24724047
prolifers changing the topic when they find out theyre retarded
>>24723900
> Implying being gross is a reason to be killed.
I see dark ages coming for my fellow robots :(
>>24724047
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Oh wow.
>>24724117
>>24724125
>>24724165
>/r9k/ has been overrun by men who get off to other men cumming in your SO
welp its been fun shitposting this place is dead to me now
although i guess all the intelligent robots aren't wasting their time responding to this shitty kuckbait
>>24724206
It's good that you at least realize that you aren't intelligent.
It's not most women. And think of Haley from American Dad. Remember when she was advocating for abortion and when Jeff brought a baby home, she broke down crying and fell in love with the baby? They'll get around. Very few don't.
>>24723941
Not true. Doctors often performed illegal abortions safely when they thought they were compelled morally to (rape/incest), or believed the woman was so desperate she would find a more dangerous way of killing the child anyway.
Abortion is not used in exceptionally horrible or rare circumstances for most who go through with it today. It is, to them, a method of birth control.
>>24724237
i'm honestly waiting for why you're okay with the fact that if you have a girlfriend someone else has came in them
you are literally the epitome of kuckdom
muh body freedom! muh sex shaming! muh social justice!
back to tumblr you slut loving kekold.
>>24720704
You do realize when babies are a "clump of cells" it's impossible to remove them via abortion? They have to grow well into a recognizable human before a doctor can suck it out of you.
>>24721341
>they actually believe that 'everyone equal' means 'iphones and lattes for everyone'
This made me legitimately Kek and is an underrated post. This is what college communists actually believe.
>>24721136
The fact that you actually believe this shows you've been watching too much fox news or parroting your parents.
Upper middle class is still middle class. You have no idea how money works. The 1% live in their own bubble and flourish by tricking just enough of the middle class into voting against own their interests.
>>B-b-b-but if a Democrat get's elected then I'll have to pay another $1,000 a year in taxes!
Ironic, because if $1,000 is a big number for you, then you're exactly the person who benefits social funding. That's $1,000 of your taxes could mean HEAVILY discounted state college tuition rates.
Not only does that save you money, it empowers your entire future. Not just that, it elevates society as a whole. Access to education reduces crime. You think an educated, employed person goes around at night doing thug shit like mugging for money? No. No they do not.
And I'm not trying to insult you here, the way we think is just human nature and it will always repeat itself. 150 years ago this same argument took place with people arguing over funding public schools, which funny enough, turned out to be a pretty sweet idea.
>>24724281
Different poster, but what issue do you have with a girl who has had a modest number of sexual partners and always wore a condom? There is literally nothing you can answer with other than religion (what are you, retarded?) or insecurity that you aren't her best lover (what are you, a robot?)
I'm honestly waiting for why you can't accept other people's sexual history. Were you raped as a kid or something?
>>24719995
I don't know about that dude, I'd say it's pretty 50/50 with women I've met. Some women get very protective of babies....
>>24724434
Bruh, that's the narrative of /r9k/. Don't argue with it.
>>24724434
If someone has been with another partner they will always hold you to higher standards. You will never be enough. They will lust after others. You can not be the 'best lover' you stupid fucking kuck. Atheists and women who have had many partners have been proven to be in shorter, shittier relationships
thanks for ruining /r9k/
>>24721275
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to take away the entitlements that make these whores so blase about fooling around? I'm still in favour of eugenixing the degenerates out of the population but I also don't want to pay for roasties' decisions.
>>24724473
>he enjoys slurping the bull's cum out of his 'girlfriend''s vagina
Who /wishtheywereaborted/ here?
>>24719995
I'm am completely pro-abortion. Not because I don't think it's a living being, but because I don't think it matters at all. No one as a person matters, being dying isn't a problem because of losing their personality, it's a problem because we've lost a contributor, a tax payer, someone filling a role in society. A foetus isn't doing anything yet, it's better to kill it off before its born, we don't need any more people in the world, the more abortions the better. There's less jobs than people.
>"oh so murder is fine then??"
No as I said, if it's a contributing individual that benefits our overall welfare and we don't want to lose that
>"so it's fine for a NEET to be mirdered??"
Yes exactly
>>24724451
And it's probably only 50/50 because you know mostly white women. There are 0% black women that don't want to conceive. There are more whites childless after the age of 30 than not. You people need to get with it or you'll have an entire population of autistic, incel males, destroying your race even further.
>>24724528
Someone dying*
>>24723201
>being this assblasted
lol i struck a nerve.
>>24722396
>implying that's a bad thing
At least the labour will be native to our societies. Look at how Europe is dealing with its impending labour shortage by importing millions of 3rd worlders. It's not exactly going well for them is it?
>>24724487
>If someone has been with another partner they will always hold you to higher standards.
Aaaaaaah, so the truth is finally revealed.
>>24724528
>we don't need any more people in the world
I've never asked this, but why? I want someone else to answer though, because you clearly don't speak English.
>>24724585
>he has been brainwashed by the feminine jew to think he is 'good' at sex
>>24724504
You realized you and your kind would be among the first to be "eugenixed out"
>>24724515
>he enjoys bashing those who aren't as emotionally stunted as he is
the real question here is why women have more birth control options then men? why are feminist against male birth control pills?
>>24724623
the normie begins to crack
>>24724623
Do you work at a cinema? Because you're hella good at projecting.
>>24724598
Because we currently have horrific levels of overpopulation and not enough resources or energy on earth to sustain everyone
>>24724658
>why are feminist against male birth control pills?
They aren't at all.
>>24724585
B-b-but my micropenis is valid!
>>24724528
So we should kill all recipients of welfare?
>>24724598
He thinks so because he's an idiot.
>>24724434
Because promiscuity is a habit which is at odds with monogamy. It's foolish to expect someone who's practiced one to suddenly be capable of or happy with the other.
>>24724606
>he has to deflect the question because he has no response
>>24720124
>children should be seen as a punishment for sex
That's one well-rounded opinion you got there
>>24724548
Conception rates can be more closely correlated to education & income rates than race. Much like crime.
>>24724754
But I literally said nothing about promiscuity. I said moderate number of sexual partners.
Assume this girl has had 7 sexual partners, all of them in monogamous relationships, all of them with consistent condom use.
If you reject this girl out of hand then I must conclude that you are simply insecure:
>>24724585
>Women should not have the right to abort a fetus they will not be able to properly care for as a child due to reasons like low income, being too young to be independent parents, having been raped, etc.
>Women should also not have access to Planned Parenthood nor welfare to support them because that makes them lazy and useless sluts that leech off society and should've known better
>mfw Conservative logic
>>24724681
>The bigger issue behind the development of a contraceptive pill for men is that women risk losing control of conception.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/apr/28/malepillwomensloss
> feminists staged a boycott, storming Coutinho's presentation and demanding that only women - not men - should be making choices about parenthood.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11693171/Five-reasons-why-the-male-pill-isnt-coming-any-time-soon.html
Oh they are against it alright.
>>24724820
7 is plenty unless she's 2old4me. Why can't she keep a long term relationship?
>>24724995
Well that is obviously indefensible, but those people don't represent all feminists.
>>24725041
Current gf has had 8 previous partners, 6 of them were BFs, all relationships lasted from 1 year to 4 years. Her first bf was when he as 15, she is 27 now.
It's really not that hard at all, and she is by far the most emotionally stable girlfriend I've had, despite her having at least 4 more previous partners than any of my other GFs have had.
Don't try to cram everything into your narrowly-focused narrative.
*whole school of kids pleading not to die is shot up by some psychotic robot*
>"OUR HERO BETA UPRISING NOW KEK"
*Child who would've grown up in horrible undesirable circumstances isn't born in the first place*
>"THOSE MONSTERS HOW COULD THEY hhuuRRR"
>/r9k/ logic
>>24725110
Do you have no sense of dignity at all? You are fucking pathetic.
>>24720083
Bruh, you're not alive until you've wrecked some poon all night, and I don't mean by breaching desu senpai
>>24725110
>8 previous partners, 6 of them were BFs
yeah you're a kuck
8-6=2 occasions of kuckoldry
>>24725052
#notallwhores
>>24725110
8 isn't that many for age 27 desu. Back when I used to care less about my studies I was easily banging a new girl every month. I was probably at like 30 girls by age 22.
>>24725183
How is that pathetic?
At least he has a girlfriend you repulsive subhuman
>>24725052
Feminists have never welcomed the male pill either tho. Plus their stance on the male pill infringing on women's power lines up with how they have treated custody of children in divorce. So take your band of Scotsmen somewhere else.
>In the early nineteenth century, Mrs. Caroline Norton, a prominent British feminist, social reformer author, journalist, and society beauty began to campaign for the right of women to have custody of their children.
>The National Organization for Women-New York State has always favored a primary caregiver (usually the mother) presumption
>>24725235
No, 2 occasions of sex with someone outside of a relationship. No cheating involved.
>>24725183
I do have dignity. Explain to me what about my post would lower my dignity (srs). Keep in mind I have had more partners than her.
>>24721012
Potential doesn't mean shit.
Look at all the worthless robots with squandered potential on this board
>>24725235
Or two occasions of her having a one night stand? You fucking nonce
>>24725110
>Current gf has had 8 previous partners
you need to multiply that by 3 women lie about their partner count. also she secretly hates you for accepting her past.
>>24725276
>At least he has a girlfriend you repulsive subhuman
This is called putting the pussy on a pedestal. You really think he or anyone else gets some magic boost in self worth for riding the village bicycle? Kekold.
>>24725294
Then you're just as broken as her. Both of your pair bonding mechanisms are probably hopelessly destroyed at this point. Your relationship will end like every other in both of your lives.
At least most guys have the self respect to acknowledge that their partner's sexual past is not something they want to hear about, but people like you know every detail and gloat in your supposed enlightenment for accepting it.
>>24725110
>27
>He actually likes christmas cake!
real talk:
A 'moderate' number of sexual partners (lol there's no such thing) is a sign that the woman was trying to show some discretion but succumbed to desire which implies weakness. It also implies that she could not get married when she was younger - despite conservative types typically marrying early - which tells me that there is something(s) about her which her beaux saw which made her unfit for marriage.
P.S. Virgins being bad at sex is a fallacy. Any woman with a healthy attitude towards sex can easily learn to please her husband.
>>24723201
> had an abortion
> life on track
Pick one.
I'd never date a murderer and id divorce or break up with anyone I had found had.
>>24725359
That's even worse de gozaru
>>24725514
>you need to multiply that by 3 women lie about their partner count.
Haha maybe if you're a poor judge of character and date manipulative bimbos
>also she secretly hates you for accepting her past.
Actually she loves me more for it.
>>24725530
Not some magic boost of self worth, having a girlfriend means you already possess self worth. And simply having one is very, very far from "putting pussy on a pedestal". Village bicycle? 8? You do realise the average of a women is 11 right?
It's mostly niggerfemales who get abortions anyway, who gives a shit?
>>24725569
>A 'moderate' number of sexual partners (lol there's no such thing) is a sign that the woman was trying to show some discretion but succumbed to desire which implies weakness.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my god, that's fucking gold. I just actually laughed out loud in the library, got some dirty looks.
This is why I fucking love r9k
>>24725530
Give a reason that a person, man or woman, sleeping around is bad. If he/she has no STI's and haven't risked pregnancy because they have always used protection, give me an OBJECTIVE problem.
>>24719995
They enjoy victimizing and arguing and drama, hence why they scream and shout about how it's "their body, their rules". They really get off on telling people No, and feeling "empowered", to a degree that such feelings are more important than the life of a human child.
I say to them what I've always said, you fucked up by getting an unwanted pregnancy. Stop chanting a bunch of annoying feel-good platitudes like "my body, my rules" and own up to the fact that you made a mistake. Get the abortion by all means, if you really can't afford to have a kid, but in the future be fucking responsible for your own body since you feel you should be the only one to govern it. Fuck, it isn't hard.
>>24725710
Easy to say when you're not at risk of pregnancy yourself
>>24725758
If only they thought of that before they letting Chad use them as a humam-onahole.
>>24725758
But if I was a guy that wasn't a typical KV I'd be at risk of getting a woman pregnant...and I'd not want to deal with accidental pregnancies.
But of course, women think it's all about them, and refuse to think about the man who's semen is literally 50% responsible for her pregnancy. Nope. Her body her rules, amirite? ;)))
>>24725847
Except literally who does this, besides the dirtiest of skanks?
Why can't you accept that women can have and enjoy sex in the exact same way men can, without degrading themselves?
>>24725879
This isn't a slut shaming thread, it's an irresponsibility shaming thread. Use birth control, it's not fucking difficult.
>>24725861
Yes, her body her rules. You don't have to physically carry the baby, you don't have to physically birth the baby, you don't have to deal with literal years of hormonal change that will permanently change your psychology. If you're shitty enough, you can physically run away and not deal with the issue.
So yes, her body, her rules.
>>24725897
>This isn't a slut shaming thread
haha, right
>>24725909
>my problems are bigger than yours!
>>24725710
Almost hate to admit agreeing with someone showing vague pro-life tendencies, because I'm staunchly pro-choice, but this is true. It's an individual's responsibility to use a fucking condom or be responsible about birth control. Having an unwanted pregnancy is fucking irresponsible and the people who get abortions should actually be ashamed and it should be shunned. Fuck all that shit about being proud of the "right to choose."
Abortion should be legal as a way to clean up the messes caused by stupid shitheads who have no business being parents. It should be seen as a shameful act done by irresponsible idiots. Not some sacred right that we should be fighting to protect.
>>24725978
>I care enough to respond
>I can't can't think of a response
>Better post a b8 picture!
>>24725909
>Yes, her body her rules.
tell us more, roastie
>my uterus my rules
In an ideal society - one in which women are subjugated and controlled like they should be for the good of society - a woman is the property of her father until her father marries her off to a suitor, upon which she becomes the property of her husband.
So no, it's not "your rules" because it's not your uterus. Women are not technically adults, and the degradation of the West due to their liberation is evidence of this. Given free roam, women consistently make anti-social decisions that are not good for society as a whole.
>>24725879
>women can have and enjoy sex in the exact same way men can
But that's wrong you idiot. Women get pregnant and apparently it's a big deal to them. In light of that you'd think that they would be more careful about it, no? Well they actually aren't. It turns out that they do let Chad up in their guts without a second thought and expect to just kill their mistakes (subsidized by my tax dollars no less).
I'll degrade women all I want, it's not like they aren't doing it themselves.
>>24726040
Yes, please post more factually incorrect pictures you got from a facebook group, "robot".
>>24725909
Just don't be a whore and get knocked up. Don't want a baby in? Then don't let a dick in.
>>24726074
Ever heard of birth control?
>>24725983
This, you and I are in complete agreement. I know women who feel intense shame and guilt for aborting, and I think they should. It's not that I hate women and want them to feel bad, it's that they need to understand how severe the implications of aborting are, and why it shouldn't be something you just casually fall back on because you failed to practice safe sex.
>>24726004
I was gonna type out a post explaining what men have to sacrifice in order to keep a child, but I didn't see the point. You think that your pain is the only pain that matters. Just because men don't get pregnant doesn't mean that having a kid isn't hard on them, especially when the majority of men are still the main breadwinners.
>>24726077
> factually incorrect
you wish. it really does throw your entire "muh oppression" narrative right out the window, doesn't it.
Oprah even pimped these foreskin creams on her show.
Did you know there are ~3x as many nerve endings in the foreskin as in the clitoris? Yep. Now whine some more about how you don't have the right to control your own body (even though you completely do).
>http://www.millipore.com/catalogue/item/scc058
>http://voices.yahoo.com/human-foreskins-big-business-cosmetics-201840.html
>>24726096
We wouldn't be having this conversation if THEY had, would we? Now put the goalpost back where it belongs.
>>24720704
you are just a bundle of cells.
>>24724679
You have no evidence of that.
>>24726153
I am uncircumcised and am completely against circumcision as a practice. What does any of this have to do with giving people freedom over their bodies? Just because I support a woman's right to control her body doesn't somehow mean I don't support men's rights to control their bodies.
inb4 you connect this to abortion
>>24726081
Again, ever heard of birth control?
>>24726097
Nothing that I posted invalidates the pain that men have.
what is it about the female right to an abortion that upsets robots so much? are you mad that women have this power? cry more jesus christ
>>24721341
this is pretty accurate actually
>>24726258
Nothing that I posted invalidates the pain that men have.
But saying it's her body, her rules completely invalidates a man's position in his relationship. My problem with this MB, MR rule is that it acts as if pregnancy is something that just happens to women without warning, not something that happens as a result of two (2) adults fornicating without any protection whatsoever.
>>24726046
What the actual fuck is wrong with you. Women are human beings exactly the same as men. I hate feminists and yet even I still have the simple civil decency and scientific literacy to know they are no different and do not deserve subjugation. It is in every literal, ethical and factual meaning, their body.
Would you rather die in the womb before you can even experience suffering or grow up being parented by someone who hates you and reminds you of that fact every second of your subsequent life?
>>24724418
because everyone that disagrees with you is just ignorant, right? ;)
>le fox news
lolol
>>24726420
Well "her body, her rules" applies pre-birth. Once the baby is born, the father should have equal rights.
Anything that happens inside of the woman's body, without anything contractually binding in place, is basically up to her.
>>24726258
Birth control isn't 100%, if you get knocked up on birth control its still your own damn fault
>>24726516
because putting together a coherent answer is hard, right? ;)
>I'm just pretending to be retarded
lolol
>>24726522
What does the attached image have to do with this discussion at all?
And well, I will never agree with you. Never. If a woman got pregnant on accident, and was not raped or threatened into having sex without her consent, then her pitching up that my body, my rules attitude is a huge red flag, and a massive character flaw as far as I'm concerned.
>>24720124
>murder
fuck off tumblr
>>24726549
>DEBATE ME!
>I'M MIMICKING YOUR POST STYLE TO SHOW HOW WRONG YOU ARE!
Okay then
>>24726611
So you're just religious then?
I just hate how its a "baby" when they want it but a "fetus" when they don't. I'm in favor of abortion but let's not lie about what we're doing
>>24726699
Nah not at all.
>>24726710
>but let's not lie about what we're doing
Yes, let us not. A bunch of cells that haven't yet formed memories or thoughts (I'm hungry is not a thought) are removed from a uterus with a vacuum.
The same thing happens when you get a tumor or polyp removed.
>>24719995
the population is already getting too high literally who gives a fuck if we abort some faggot babies. rather abort it than have it grow up in a shitty home with no money and parents that hate it for ruining their lives
>>24726468
If you were half as scientifically literate you would know men and women are not the same.
>It is in every literal, ethical and factual meaning, their body.
The meat we eat is from a cow's body but we don't consult the cow before grilling it.
We train dogs to not shit on the floor because without proper training they will not behave. Women need training.
We discipline our children without consulting them because children do not know what's best for them. Women are basically children.
>>24726855
>Women are basically children.
>I'm not fucked in the head.
>>24726880
Project all you want. I'm fit, have a well-paying job, and I have a girlfriend who agrees with everything I've said here. She knows her place.
To expand upon this, even if what I said was wrong (it's not), philosophically and biologically it's still not her uterus because technically she's an extension of her mother's body and she is an extension of her mother's ad infinitum. This entire debate is about where people want to draw the line in the sand, and we wouldn't be having this discussion if women were relegated to their proper place; not having a say in the discussion because given free roam they are anti-social.
A large portion of the problems the West is experiencing is because of women being allowed to vote and being treated as equals, and this is facilitated by thirsty beta males like yourself who supplicate themselves before women in the hopes you'll get laid.
Women are different from men. They are different biologically and psychologically. The sooner you accept this the better.
>>24727071
hahahahahahahahaha, OH YEAH BABY
>>24727130
Protection is not an argument.
>>24720852
Medifag reporting
that's the age of viability. It's basically the point at which the baby could survive outside the uterus if it was born prematurely. With current medicine, it's at about 23 weeks.
>>24727149
YEAH MY BITCH SUCKS ON MY COCK WHEN I TELL HER, I'M THE SUPERIOR BEING
>>24726046
>autistic loser on r9k has the gall to talk about others making anti-social decisions not good for society
fucking kek
>>24727071
Well I hope you die soon
>>24727328
>stop existing, and continuing to invalidate my personal ideas and values
Sure is /mentally ill/ here
>>24727392
No, it's because I fear people like you. I have a daughter and it keeps me up at night thinking that someone like you will get into her head when she's young and impressionable.
I'm fine with third trimester abortions.
>>24723996
>a cell isn't alive
did you failed basic biology?
>>24727071
>To expand upon this, even if what I said was wrong (it's not), philosophically and biologically it's still not her uterus because technically she's an extension of her mother's body and she is an extension of her mother's ad infinitum
Despite your "status" that you seem to think makes your opinions valid, this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
>>24727314
Women generally like being told what to do. They like being roughed around in bed as well. Consciously or subconsciously they know they are not your equal. Anyone with even a little experience with women knows this. Apparently you don't.
But you're right, the male feminist who has a folder full of fedora pictures and defends women on 4chan (lmao) is the REAL ladies' man.
>>24719995
Yes. The (modern) woman believes she should be able to be whore herself without having to worry about planification or protection. Dumb cunts think pregnacy is the worst that can happen from having sex.
>>24724947
What about people that are ok with abortion but anti-welfare?
>>24727416
lol ew your daughter is a slut and training to ride chads worldwide, hope you know that, thanks for adding to the problem you retard
>>24726040
That's not how collagen is produced tho. It comes from animals and the dumb roasties buy it thinking their skin can magically absorb collagen
>>24727320
>autistic loser
You're projecting again.
>>24727416
Your daughter has a sad future ahead of her with a man like you as a role model.
>>24727468
It sounds dumb to you because you're an idiot. It's very simple.
The line you draw is just as arbitrary as the line in my post you quoted. That's what you're not understanding.
And it's not my "status" that makes my opinions valid, the "status" is only confirmation. My positive experiences with women make my opinion valid. Anyone who defends women as being capable of making sound decisions on their own has not slept with many women, and seeing how not only are you defending women but defending them on /r9k/, the most misogynistic board on 4chan, you must be a special kind of shutin.
>>24720344
>Murder defect baby
Yes, muh eugenics, but I will not stand for the murder of rape babies.
>>24727547
Haha no, she's a nerd who wants to be an engineer. I am present in her life, so she doesn't have a gaping emotional hole in her personality that Chad would fill.
I'm terrified of some backwards aspie fuck like you coming into her life and convincing her she is worthless, and making her give up her academic dreams. You'd like to think that the way you treat women makes the world a better place, but it just makes those women worse off.
>>24727610
>gaping emotional hole
sounds hot, is your daughter cute
>>24727610
>I am present in her life
You are present in her life as a male feminist and you will no doubt bring her up to ride the cock carousel because you will give her the idea that she's a strong woman and she don't need no man.
Literally the only way you can't understand this is if you don't fuck women regularly. It's clear you haven't.
Just out of curiosity how old was your wife when you married her and how many partners did she tell you she had been with before meeting you?
>>24727591
im not projecting at all
anyone who holds the batshit insane views you do isn't mentally stable
i know it makes you feel powerful to think of women as property, but you're wrong no matter how many times you tell yourself you're right
>>24727610
mmmm how did you know I had a thing for gaping holes ;) well that's enough information for me, nerdy girls are so hawt, academia makes my dick hard lel. Sorry it's just....you're too much, it's guys like me who make sure girls like your daughter are rightfully satisfied first before chad's get to them, you're right, I'm not chad, I'm a lot worse because I can nice but I'm gonna scoop up that sweet little daughter of yours >:) she sounds nice, what's her ass look like?
>>24727706
>anyone who holds the batshit insane views you do isn't mentally stable
Anyone who does not hold these views does not fuck regularly.
The more experience you have with women the lower your opinion of them.
Daddy beta bucks further upthread there is priming his daughter to ride the carousel into spinsterhood.
>>24727748
>I can nice
and I can also retard lmao woops anyway sell me your daughter, 3 cows
>>24727753
looks like you're the one projecting now
>Implying the world wouldn't be better if we just aborted everybody
Kill the babies, then kill the mothers, then kill the fathers, then kill everyone in the ward, the kill your neighbors, then kill every single person you ever come in contact with while killing your own expectations of the world because you're a sad sack of shit known as a robot. How are you faggots not pro-extinction of humanity yet? Humanity doesn't give a fuck about you, and you really don't give a fuck about you either.
>>24727677
>You are present in her life as a male feminist and you will no doubt blah blah blah
As a male feminist I have been encouraging her to beat the mean boys in math. As a male feminist I encouraged her to try out for the all-male baseball team, where she now plays short-stop. Pic very related
My wife was 29 when we married, she said she had 8 previous partners. I have had 11 previous partners. I am happily married, no problems with her whatsoever. My wife has maintained her career throughout all of this, all the while being a lazy, dirty feminist :^)
>>24721326
this guy just /thread
remember that are feminist that are in favor of abortion, not would-be good parents
>>24727857
oh yuck what you're serious about this lol do you have any pictures of your wife? I mean she's a feminist so gross probably, but I mean it will at least give me an idea of that daughter of yours, since I know you wouldn't post any pictures of her 'round here
>>24727591
>le my opinions aren't stupid le u r just 2 dumb 2 understand
There's nothing arbitrary about who owns one's body, granted they don't have to be taken care of by others in adulthood. It's retarded to think otherwise, plain and simple. You and your gee eff are clearly mental.
>>24727677
>Literally the only way you can't understand this is if you don't fuck women regularly. It's clear you haven't.
I do fuck women regularly, but I have standards. I don't fuck every manipulative bimbo that comes my way, so I'm not bitter and scarred.
>you will give her the idea that she's a strong woman and she don't need no man.
>she will ride the cock carousel
You know that it's weak, emotionally unstable women that do this? The guy who is raising his daughter to be an engineer won't have to worry about this, it's literally the whole "you need a man to be happy" mentality that drives these women to such insane acts of slutdom.
>>24727857
>My wife was 29 when we married, she said she had 8 previous partners.
>29
>8 previous partners
You're like a walking stereotype. How can you be older than me and be this inexperienced? You went through 11 different partners and still just didn't get it?
I hope you're prepared for your daughter to have degrading things done to her on camera while she's in school for "engineering", and then for her to clamor to find some nerd to put a ring on her just like you did to your wife.
This happens all the time and people just won't accept it for what it is. But another thing I learned is that you can't save everyone. People like yourself will continue to facilitate women getting used and abused and tricking people like yourself into wifing them up. It would be tragic if you weren't completely okay with it.
>>24727857
Nice bait.
Now get out REEEEE
>>24727945
>There's nothing arbitrary about who owns one's body
Yes, ethics and morality aren't a hotly debated (and completely subjective) field of discussion with wide-ranging opinions and views.
You need to read more if you think anything I said was mental or even weird.
>>24727753
>le my gf is submissive in bed so all women shouldn't control their bodies
Sound logic there.
>>24727967
you are mentally ill. post the damn pictures of your ugly roastie wife's fat vag already and stop being such a meme. At least tell us what her asshole smells like :( you fucking chad keks are all the goddamn same, and wow your sexy loli daughter plays with legos, engineer, goddamn, fucking LOL. I kind of imagined you'd be this delusional
>>24727991
It's gotten to the point where I don't even know what you're trying to insult me about.
>Hurrrr your daughter is going to have sex with people!
Yes, that is expected and even hoped for, as long as she is fulfilled and happy and it is not physically or emotionally damaging to her.
I'm not even arguing, I'm seriously asking you, what is bad/degrading/harmful in anything that I have posted?
>>24727967
can you lick your daughter's feet and then record the sounds she makes? that would be hot :)
What if I am a woman and I want to abort the fetus because it is a female or I have a way to know it is gay? Wouod pro-abortionists still support my decision and applaud it?
>>24727967
>You know that it's weak, emotionally unstable women that do this?
Just like your daughter will be.
>The guy who is raising his daughter to be an engineer won't have to worry about this, it's literally the whole "you need a man to be happy" mentality that drives these women to such insane acts of slutdom.
Just last weekend I hooked up with a 20-year old who is studying to become a neurosurgeon. I treated her roughly in bed and did extremely degrading things to her while filming it.
She is otherwise a very nice girl. Attractive, relatively smart, and comes from what you would call a "supportive background" (I know her father and he is a beta male feminist just like yourself). Despite this she is incapable of making sound decisions, such as staying away from people like me who would use and degrade her. I'm sure as hell not the first to do this and I probably won't the be last.
The moral of this story is that someone like you will come along ten years down the road and put a ring on that girl's finger. That you don't see the issue with this is the reason I pity you.
>>24728049
>being this anally devasted
I don't have a daughter btw, that poster is married. I am single, but hold similar opinions.
>>24728020
Your reasoning is completely retarded though. When a baby becomes a "person" is where ethics and morality come into play, not who owns a woman's uterus. I'm sorry for saying retarded so much but it's a perfect descriptor of that argument. In fact, I completely disregard it as an argument.
>>24728083
>as long as she is fulfilled and happy and it is not physically or emotionally damaging to her
>what is bad/degrading/harmful in anything that I have posted?
Because you are setting your daughter up for failure.
Women's declining unhappiness is directly related to their liberation.
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
>>24728111
>You know that it's weak, emotionally unstable women that do this?
>Just like your daughter will be.
Ah, I see. For all the other semantic bullshit you posted, this is the crux of the issue.
Women only do the shit you say when they are emotionally weak. If you have not met, or else weren't able to maintain contact with, emotionally stable women then I truly feel sorry for you.
>>24721326
But a lot of them, if not most, still have kids down the line. Should they take their ovaries off?
>>24727967
woops then I direct my post to that idiot hahah I thought you were samefagging because you were making such a thing of that guy and his "engineer daughter", he's not raising her to be an engineer, she heard about it on her nerd meme television and she picked it out. Also yeah his daughter is gonna get impaled by her choice of chads bcause she's "raised right" aka she's gonna look sooooo goooood (gonna lol again if she's not already a loli >:] )
>>24727825
I mean think about it, a world of endless war would really be beneficial. Everything bad about society would be destroyed,every sad sack piece of shit would meet their end and finally be at peace. Even the "Chads" and "Stacies" who survive will be miserable because the ground should be irradiated to the point it fucking glows. Not that it would matter much because they'd probably be killed from something else before it killed them.Not to mention we could finally give this redundant equality argument culture a break. After all, everybody dies the same.
>>24728131
>When a baby becomes a "person" is where ethics and morality come into play, not who owns a woman's uterus.
That you don't see those two as potentially related is why you are (quoting yourself here) "retarded".
>>24728094
>>24728049
hey dude >>24728083
please draw us an explicit mental picture of exactly how hot your daughter is
Why are people against incest because of some potential child that doesn't even exist as a fetus but are okay with abortion?
>>24728192
All you can do is try to convince a woman to "do the 'right' thing" but she has full ownership of her body, no questions.
>>24728204
>His arguments are challenging my personal narrative on women
>I can't think of a cogent argument
>Better try to drive him away by saying lewd things
>>24728176
Nope, I am an engineer and have been teaching my daughter math since before she was in school. I'm not saying she will be an engineer, but will most likely go into a STEM field.
>chad is gonna run through her
I doubt it. First of all, my daughter doesn't wear makeup (her choice) so I doubt Chad's would be after her. Second, she stands up for herself; she cannot stand being putdown in the least, so I have trouble seeing her with anyone who is super dominant.
So far she seems to only like the boys that are good at math.
I'm in favour because otherwise I'd have an 8 year old with some asshole Chad. I was a stupid kid, birth control didn't work, Nuva ring didn't work, depo shot didn't work, allergy to latex so no condoms. Luckily I found out about IUD and smartened the fuck up.
I want my kid to have a better life than I ever had and until I'm financially stable and know more about being an adult I can't and wont bring another human into this world.
>>24728318
>le smart guy on the internet psychoanalyst man
>"Woah bruh you got me there senpai t b h like I never saw it that way"
>"I guess women are people now"
that's what you want to happen right? You don't think I'm not just some legitimately horny guy who got turned on at the mention of the word "daughter" like please, I just kinda wanna know what colour are her nipples? You're the one who came in here pretending to be all proud of having a daughter and all happy with the fact that she's gonna bang nerd chads, that could be some of us for all you know and if you want her to be happy and/or successful you'll act now, sounds like a prime loli m8 consider me interested
>>24728318
>my daughter doesn't wear makeup (her choice) so I doubt Chad's would be after her. Second, she stands up for herself; she cannot stand being putdown in the least
>I have trouble seeing her with anyone who is super dominant
>So far she seems to only like the boys that are good at math.
HOO BOY
>>24728367
Another example of a girl who had no strong male role model in her life.
