I see there are a lot of people under 20 here. It's sad because you still have a chance. Here's some boring generic normie advice from an older failed normie virgin robot. This doesn't apply to people who are absolutely 100% sure they will never want to have friends or gf which is totally ok. If you can hold a conversation with someone else of 2 sentences or more it's enough to make progresses. Obviously you will never be Chad and snatch 7/10+ girls all the time but you can still become a decent beta and find a decent wife that is less than 33% likely to divorce you and have a few good friends later in life.
>If you feel it's ok to stay alone at home every weekend it isn't. I was happy doing that until I woke up without friends / never having a gf. Now I can't enjoy the hobbies I used to love and I want to kill myself over regrets I could have prevented by not being a huge faggot.
>It won't be better next year. Your life won't magically fix itself. Girls will never ask you out. People won't become your friends if you don't appear friendly.
>Time moves faster year after year.
>The later you start the more difficult it is and the most likely you are to fail.
>A lot of total losers in high school fix their shit in Uni. But not many total losers at the end of Uni fix their shit afterwards.
>Go out everytime you can. It will be awful and awkward like in the Slint's song 'Washer' and can affect your confidence a bit. But you eventually get more comfortable at it. And if you suck at least you tried and you'll forget about it and everyone will forget about you.
>Dont let mild social anxiety fuck you over. Get it treated if you want but don't avoid doing something you'd like to do because you're scared... because you will be scared about it the next time and so on until you're fucked.
>If you don't go to parties where you are invited people won't invite you afterwards. If you don't feel like at all find a good excuse.
>Honestly parties are fucking shit where people, even intelligent ones, act like wild monkeys. But maybe you will meet someone interesting there I dunno.
>Just invent past anecdotes about sex life / previous parties / dumb shit whatever in case it's not like they can verify if it's true on google.
>If you have nothing to say just get another shot or try to talk about mundane shit about someone there whatever. If you still have nothing to say just leave or something whatever or don't give a fuck.
>First years of Uni is the last time you can form a group of good friends easily.
>Having a good friend make it easy to meet new people.
>Don't wait for 5/10+ girls, even more if you're a virgin. 3/10 girls are ok. People will judge you if the girl is ugly but don't really give a fuck about it even if they make fun of you for that. Avoid obese girls like plague. It will train you and give you confidence. Also no remorse about leaving her if she's a bitch once or twice.
>Do hobbies you like where you can meet new people.
>Lifting / Exercise is mostly a meme but well it's still fine and make you feel better. Never become fat everyone will consider you as a huge piece of shit if you're fat and young.
>TV shows are all fucking shit and normies love to talk about them.
>Once again parties are fucking shit but you have to deal with it.
>Create a normiebook. It's ok to not be active on it just upload one or two pictures. You can hide your number of friends anyway. I finally created one this year and realized how much it separate you from other people. If you're older just say you recreated it or something. It basically makes you an outcast to not have one, which isn't cool for 99% of people.
Follow all that and if you still fail or can't get past the fact that 90% of all this shit is worse than spending time on your computer (but you need it to get the 10% !) then it's ok because you were not meant to be happy and you can't blame yourself for your failures anymore.
Thank you OP. bumping.
OP you Just inspired me. Thank you
>>24574808
Can't tell if that's ironic or not, and I know people here have all kind of issues I don't... while some don't have some I have. But a lot of us older robots didn't even try. I know that tasks where we have to force ourselves and feel awful anxiety are basic natural and enjoyable parts of life for normies... but we have no choices.
>Fat from shitty parents feeding me shitty foods since i was young.
Can confirm what OP says, we are literally on the lowest tier of social events, we constantly get stared at and you learn to see the smiles of people who see you and feel superior.
wish I'd had someone to tell me this when I was 18.
This. Just go to parties or clubbs, never ever decline
I lifted for many years and I was buffed, but still never atracted anyone, not just females, I wanted to have friends aswell but nothing.
Because I declined all the inv. in early days people would not even call me later for anything. Then one day I decided it was enough, phoned my friend and told him I'l join with him next weekend.
Then I proceed to get shitfaced every weekend during the whole year. Honestly no matter how autistic you are or retarded( I am), just get shitfaced, dance like a fucking idiot and you'l meet some new people.
>>24574256
i think the song is don, aman
>>24575073
Exactly why I made this thread. But I ignored some legit advice and invitations because I felt fine being alone not realizing one day I would wake up and realize how much I fucked up.
>>24575158
Yeah was thinking about the washer intro and don aman lyrics somehow.
>>24574256
>>24575079
Do you mind telling more about the practical aspects of "going out"? Should I just go to some random bar and just... then what?
>>24575079
OP here. Too bad I started doing that at 22. Spent years 17 to 19 in a shit tier college near my house in a major where we were around 5 people for 3 years who didn't really care for other which obviously didn't help me mature and go out... but I was fine staying at home then.
But at 20 moved town to actually get a life but didn't try.
>>24575273
I still go to Uni so I just follow what's planed. If you become friends with other people they'll invite you to their parties. I also went to parties from a friend in my olympic weightlifting club (people were great and accepting there despite the fact that I was a beta mute for months). Going out on your own in bars or clubs is hard to meet new people, it depends on your country though.
I'm transferring to Uni from CC next year, but I want to get a social life before then.
I stopped jacking it to porn, playing vidya, started working out, etc, but I just don't know how/where to meet people. What's the next step?
>>24575461
Thanks. I do go to uni. I have a few "friends" that are mostly people that go to some of the same classes and with who I sometimes talk, usually about course material and homeworks. But I never got invited to parties until now. What am I doing wrong?
>>24575490
If you have decent acquaintances in your class don't hesitate to ask them if they want to go out. Then do sports, especially ones where you have a lot of time to talk. Like I said I do oly lifting and it's great for that. Changed town and club and had no problems making a few friends there. Also I'm learning German and I'm contacting Germans in my town who want to learn my language to do one to one language exchange gotta see how it work out.
>>24575621
Maybe they have their own groups of friends... maybe they want you to invite them... maybe you're still not close enough. Try to talk to them about other stuff like TV shows, or hobbies or events also.
no, thank you
nice advice though
>>24574256
Good advice here, anon.
As a KV wizard, I can't stress enough how much you youngins need to take advantage of every possible social opportunity at a young age.
From day 1 of high school through your college years, you main focus needs to be meeting people, making friends and building connections. Like anon says here, after the first year of Uni, it gets a lot tougher. And after Uni, heh. It gets infinitely harder.
This gave me feels, though it was supposed to help me. You say it's not too late, but I know otherwise.
>>24575912
What age are you, 19, 20, 21? Just restart college or move out of town and actually do everything that is listed. If you're 19 it still is ok, at 21 it starts to get hard.
I will try and give some of my own advice.
I am a recovering failure of a robot.
Currently 25, have a GF, 2 years. I also have a very good job with very good progression for the future
I was a highschool dropout, university failure and deemed to be a loser who stayed up to 5am playing WoW and masturbating to futanari
My advice
>Go to the gym or improve your body. This gives you confidence and a "base" to start talking and meeting people including girls.
>Accept invitations to places, this gets you reinvited further. The more you so no, all it does it keep you in your bubble of failure
>get your education while you're young because the older you get the less time left you have to finish it
For example I am now working full time while studying my last 2 years because I need to build a career now or else im fucked
>Woman aint shit. Don't make a big deal over them.
>Getting a career started soon is perhaps the best thing you can do. Once you start working you realise how many doors it opens
>Losers are the onces who don't progress in life
>My friends who were on my same level of failure. But now as I moved on I can truly see how much of a loser they are. This is how EVERYONE saw me
>Make sure those you have around you as friends or coworkers are successful positive people
>It's the negative people who will cause you to be a filaure
How do I tell if I'm a normie or a robot?
>>24575672
>tv shows
I don't watch them
>hobbies
It feels really hard to talk about these. Do you just go up to someone and say "btw, I do this thing"? Also, I feel like I won't be able to really talk about them. I like listening to music but I usually feel uncomfortable talking about it because I don't really know that much musicians, but they are all different and some pretty obscure, and I don't really listen to them regularly, I have "periods". Or when people ask me if I play a musical instrument, I don't know what to say, because I kinda do, but not really, since I don't practice regularly, I just sometimes like to fuck around with my recorder.
Also, I don't have that much interesting hobbies.
Another thing I do is lift. I started this fall because of the "Lifting will turn you into a normalfag" meme, but I've been losing motivation recently
And I browse places like these. Not a good thing
>events
what do you mean?
Interestingly I have been really social during orientation week at the beginning of uni because of all the warming up and ice breakers and meeting a bunch of people. And then I had a lot of fun because of the organized parties. I continued to be kinda social for the next couple of weeks, greeting random people, but then it all decayed into my previous antisocial form.
>>24576281
Just consider you're not a robot. As I said I felt fine for years and years until I woke up very late and realized how awful my life was and would be in the future. I actually took most of those steps before waking up and made progresses but now I have to deal with depression.
The same thing must happen to the vast majority of other robots, sooner, later, on their death beds, whatever. Anyway if you think you would like to experience a kiss, sex, love, true friendship, having a family, not dying alone, having a decent carreer, OR think you may change your mind about not wanting to experience it, you should try to socialize as much as you can.
>>24575912
it isn't too late if you're under 20, stop being a faggot.
>>24575197
I have a fairly small-ish group of friends (around 3 to 7) but we all play computer games and never go out, should i still do this or am i ok?
>>24576435
>Hobbies
Yeah I think rather ask the other person what they do with their time and try to stay interested. It's kinda hard to find a good timing or a good way to ask this question though.
>Events
I meant stuff happening around campus or something like a party or festival.
Keep in mind I'm trying my best but I'm still far from normie.
>>24575197
I never really had invitations but I was okay with being alone for awhile when I shouldn't have been.
>>24576513
It's pretty obvious it will not progress socially. Keep playing with them but try to meet new people.
>>24576540
Well, what are some good hobbies?
I meditate, but that's not something you can have casual conversation about. I'm thinking about starting an instrument too.
>>24576540
>rather ask the other person what they do with their time
Is it socially acceptable to do so? It seems kind of awkward.
>>24576625
Cooking is a pretty good one. I never really tried to cook stuff before last year when I did some cakes from time to time, and this year when I tried new recipes and I got complimented by some random girl for some easy recipe I made when I was staying at a friends flat recently, and it felt good. Try to go for a bit obscure and simple recipes. Basically other people can get benefits from it, either by eating your food or getting infos from you.
Otherwise I still suffer from years of trying to be different and again I'm oly lifting, which tend to interess people but it takes me so much time every week. I also have some knowledge in music (not music theory) but generally people don't care about the music you listen to or aren't really interested in music.
I can't give a fuck about traveling but people love to talk about that but I doubt they care about other people travels and just want to talk about theirs.
Also most creative hobbies I think.
>>24576711
It is. I asked a girl exactly what were her hobbies and she openly said it was a weird question (but at the same time she had no real hobbies so that could explain her reaction). Maybe ask a specific question like "did you watch that show ? do you know a good place to jog ?" to then ask larger question.
please be honest with me, is it to late at 24?
i simply can't imagine how a female would accept a man that has never had sex, had never felt a warm hug, had never felt the hearth beat of another woman
it's not about her being ashamed, it's about her feeling horrified at a subconscious level ...
i have to be some kind of monster, some disturbing inhumane error of the nature to have not received the most essential and basic part of being a human
>>24577144
Come on, my friend, it's never too late. By your own logic things are only going to get worse, so why not try your hardest now while you have the best chance?
t. somebody in a similar situation trying to convince himself of this too.
>>24577144
>please be honest with me, is it to late at 24?
Yes. The only option now is accepting that you're betabux.
>assuming everyone goes to uni
>>24574256
Your advice is fantastic for someone who wants to become a normie.
I'm not happy with my life but I know becoming a normie would not make me happy. I don't want to go to parties. I don't want to make normie friends. I don't want to bang normie chicks, be they physically pretty or ugly. I don't want to participate in normie hobbies or activities I don't enjoy just to meet normies.
I wish I could meet people similar to myself to be friends with. I wish I had friends to enjoy my autistic hobbies with. I wish I could find a wonderful woman who was actually right for me and not just a typical female who wants a normie/Chad boyfriend. Unfortunately these things are not easy and becoming a normie would not help me with them.
From what I've seen there are indeed people here who want to be normies and could benefit from your advice, so I'm not saying you should get out or anything. Your ideas are appreciated, they're just not for everyone.
>>24577144
I hope not, because if it is I'm fucked.
>>24577144
OP here, I'm 23 right now. I'm asking myself the same questions. I started trying to change last year and this year at 22/23, and I later became depressed because I realized how much I fucked up and how late it was when changing town and trying to be social in my new class wasn't as magical as I thought it would be (also sadly underestimated how cooler and more accepting people were in the previous town than in the new town which added to my regrets).
The truth is we have no choice. I'm seriously considering moving to another country because I'm almost certain the people I know in Uni won't become my best friends forever, apart from one friend if he introduces me in his circle or something... and to respond to you I think you should ignore that and just try to build a social circle (which is very very hard at our age) to meet new girls before thinking about that. Ignore that you never fucked and act as you did. I know people see me as somehow weird but I'm high functioning enough now to act as I'm not a virgin at all. I'm almost in the same boat (had a gf for some days that I kissed and groped an eternity ago) and I'll just not tell about it and do my best, and just say "damn it was a long time" or something.
>>24577428
I sorta rationalized it that way. Most normie conversations bore me to death I wish I'd just have one or two friends or a gf to have bullshit 'deep' conversations with while listening to music or something. But you can't find that if you don't go outside. Had great conversations with a friend but I actually had to go through lot of small talk and mundane bullshit to go there.
Honestly I'm not even sure if females like that who aren't damaged exist or are contactable. In your case you would probably do better online if your hobbies are specific.
>>24577385
Couldn't really tell for drop outs, people learning a trade or working. But if you're a young neet just go to uni / CC...
>>24574256
>It will be awful and awkward like in the Slint's song 'Washer'
That song is fucking awesome, you hopeless dickhead.
>>24577758
I meant awful and awkward as in the experience of the narrator in the song that actually was Don, Aman as pointed another anon. Washer is one of my favorite songs ever.
>>24577428
It seems that you're underestimating the variety of "normie" people. There are so much different kinds of people out there.
>>24574256
>you still have a chance
No they don't. They think being a robot is cool because it's a meme now. They're literally proud of being losers. We had this issue in the early 90s but being a "loser" meant getting bad grads or being a HS dropout.
Being a loser now means jerking off to 2D, hating girls so much that you'll never talk to them, being proud of being a virgin, being proud of being a shutin. They literally aspire to being a robot because they think it's a legit cultural movement. What they forget is that it means nothing, it doesn't make them "fit in" here, it will never make them "fit in" with people in real life, it's just them literally throwing their life away.
>>24577835
They do fit in, but only in this tiny parcel on the Internet called 4chan.org/r9k/. And it is cool, but only on this tiny parcel. And I don't think everybody thinks like that.
>>24577631
>In your case you would probably do better online if your hobbies are specific
Well I do enjoy forums about my hobbies but I'm not really good at taking things to one on one conversations or friendships from forums. Also my hobbies are almost exclusively male so I'm definitely not going to meet a lovely wife on any of my forums.
>>24577793
I'm not going to meet people who enjoy things like antique toy trains at a normie party. It's just not going to happen. I'm not saying that all normies are terrible people, just that it's hard to find people I really have enough in common with to be friends with. And of course females who are like me and interested in the things I am seem to be a thousand times rarer than men.
I'm a 25 (almost 26) year old NEET and there's basically zero hope for me at this point. I'll probably never get a job, or if I do it would probably be something so depressing I'd have to either go back to NEET if possible or if not just end it all.
>>24577835
I'm sure most of it are jokes and memes to feel better but obviously some think that way. Also as long as you think your lonely situation is barely acceptable, you're fucked if you don't realize it. It may even be better to really think it's cool and pursuing it because you can get tired of it faster than letting the numbness and unrealistic daydreaming consume you.
>>24577835
Idk man, I have a decent amount if friends, drink every second weekend, college is going pretty well, its just women I have the issue with, but I don't aim to be a loser, and aside from not knowing how to talk to women I'm doing pretty okay.
I'm 23 about to graduate with BS in IT, going to go back for MSCIS at my university this Spring.
I don't really give a shit about any of that relating to friends or a significant other. I already have a good handful of friends, just wish they lived closer or had a steady job that paid well enough that they didn't need to work literally every day from morning to night so we could hang out more often. Feels like there such a huge disconnect because I only talk to them maybe once a month at most because they're always busy with work. I hope they get a break sometime in the future.
I just hope I can find a job at one point that's not boring as fuck. Unfortunately, it's 99% certain that I'll have to move to find a decent job because the tech sector in this area completely blows. Fucking local gov't jobs and military shit is the definition of boring and I don't like to work with any of the tech or skills they want. Only remotely interesting jobs are up north or all the way out in California which is out of the question.
Doesn't help that the one time I was offered a paid internship + the ability to remotely work when I went back to class was fucking given to someone else and the fucker just ignored me. I should have responded to the Google recruiter when he contacted me 2 years ago. I doubt anything would have happened though, even my CS friend got in contacted by him and nothing happened. Doubt they'd want a dude with a shitty ass GPA and no professional experience.
Saving grace is my parents are incredibly generous and supporting. They're not in any rush to put me out the door and are paying for my bachelor's and the master's which I am thankful for.
Seriously, past like age 22/23, if you lack sexual experiences or friends in general, you're a complete weirdo to society (unless you're Chad, which excuses you from everything).
I don't think most people realize how cruel women are. If you don't have your shit together by that acceptable ~23 age, you're nothing. You 're truly subhuman trash to them.
>>24577909
>nuh uh man my secret club is real
You don't fit in here the way you think you do because believe it or not many of us have had sex, had relationships, have been normies or currently are normies. Robots are just kidding themselves that this is really their territory on the internet. It hasn't been that for years now.
>>24578199
>Robots are just kidding themselves that this is really their territory on the internet.
It's the same phenomena with weebs. They think 4chan is still "theirs" and that they are the majority. The truth is the majority of 4chan thinks anime is gay.
i really love you guys
>>24577911
Aren't there conventions for this? But as an example I went to a countdown tournament (based on the tv show) once and there were like 4 people younger than 30 there, and the youngest woman was in her late 30s. That was pretty disappointing even if I knew it was an old people game. Maybe it's the same for that hobby. But honestly if I somehow met you I'd be pretty interested because I think trains are pretty cool... but then again I'm not a normie. Also finding someone based on one hobby doesn't really work and isn't enough... daydreaming about finding a musicfu was a complete waste of time. They'd rather have a chaddy artsy bf who listen to the fleet foxes or some faggot band like that than an average dude who would have their hypothetical perfect knowledge and taste.
Yeah honestly can't even convince myself I can fix my life and you're in a worse situation than me.
>>24578160
Yeah exactly. That's why I changed town and pretend I had gfs.
What do if I'm 5'4?
I have a good job, I'm 22, I'm around 4-5/10 in looks but that stuff doesn't matter because of my height.
I've never had a girlfriend and I'm still a virgin. I used to socialise but it never ever lead to anything (with girls and even just with my guy friends, they sort of disowned me) and so I'm now depressed and counting down the days until I die.
If I was taller I know I'd have hope, but girls don't like guys this short. What can I do?
>>24578160
I wouldn't want a woman who would be cruel to a guy or think him to be subhuman trash just for being inexperienced in certain things past a certain age even if I was below that age and she thought I was great.
I'm a strong believer in the "be yourself" philosophy. No, not the "just be yourself" normie nonsense of believing anyone can accomplish things or have people like them if they just be themselves. That is far from the truth when yourself is not naturally successful or likeable. Rather, it's just that even if yourself is not successful or likeable, you'll still be happier that way than if you try to be someone you're not, do things you don't want to do, be with people you don't want to be with, etc.
>>24578256
>Aren't there conventions for this?
Sure, but I live in an area that's a couple hours' drive from basically any sort of events/meetups I'd be interested in, and traveling isn't really for me. Can't afford to waste fuel as a NEET, and traveling makes me anxious.
I did end up at a toy train event once but it wasn't really all that great. Pretty much everyone was 2-3 times my age and the few females to be found were obviously just there with their husbands.
I know it takes more than a shared hobby to make a relationship work, but it would be a good starting point if only I could utilize it. A starting point is what I need.
>>24578199
No, "robots" do fit in here. The fact that there are many "non-robot" poster doesn't change the fact the a post made by a "robot" will fit right in here, and will get the "robot" responses he expects.
Also, nowhere in that post did I imply anything about whether I fit in or don't fit.
>>24578441
>No, "robots" do fit in here.
Nope you don't. This is my board now and you should probably just leave.
Signed,
Chad
>>24574256
Didn't read half of all that bullshit because I got the gist of it from a few sentences. Basically change yourself to become them, You're clearly a banal cunt. Who the fuck are YOU to decide who fails and succeeds after a certain age. Go fucking drink bleach you silly faggot.
>>24578352
I'm 6'0 (but balding) and have no idea what to tell you that isn't condescending bullshit.
>>24578379
You may need another hobby where you can meet other people. But it's tough and sorta like the 'too little / too late' I also feel.
>>24578475
kek
Sorry Mr Chad, but I'll post where I want.
>>24578487
>You may need another hobby where you can meet other people.
This goes back to the part about "be yourself" though. I'm not saying that I'll never be interested in any new/different hobbies, but if I just can't get interested in any hobbies that would be better for meeting people, I'd have to force myself to do things I don't enjoy which would not likely lead to me being any happier.
Besides, I've looked for hobby/meetup groups in my area, and aside from church (which I'm definitely not interested in, inb4 edgy etc.) I could find absolutely nothing at all, so it's not even a matter of whether or not I'm interested.
>>24578555
REEEEE GET OUT ROBOTS
Signed,
Chad
>>24578480
Again I felt the same way and as I say in the first lines if you're sure you don't want to integrate in the normie world / normie life what I say doesn't apply.
But the truth is most so-called robots here are just failed normies who lack some confidence or isolate themselves due to a few fuck ups. Just see the content on this board, most people complain about no gf and stuff like that. And it's not about becoming a total normie, it's accepting that you need to go through normie stuff to get the needed social needs and experience to not end up isolated and unlovable.
>>24578680
It's Friday night, aren't you supposed to be busy fucking Stacies?
>>24578653
Can you accept living the same life in 5 years? If not you'll have to move elsewhere asap and change some things.
>>24578839
I can accept it if it's still the best option I have. Right now I don't have much happiness in my life but I don't have much misery either. Things could be much worse, and I've experienced much worse back when I had to go to school and such.
My parents are planning on moving soon which may or may not bring me desirable opportunities. I'll see what I can do in the new area, but I'm not very hopeful.
>>24578959
Again ponder if your life satisfaction will stay the same if nothing change as year go by... or even if you'd accept being in the same situation in 40 years I don't know. It's up to you, you experienced life your own way and know best but don't have an hasty judgement.
>>24578715
I've already been integrated into the normie world fuckface. I know what people are like. I've been entangled in their bullshit and drama for long enough and I'm not even in my twenties yet. They're not the saviors of isolation and depression you're making them out to be.
>>24578786
Yes but I'm ignoring them right now to focus more on myself because my existence doesn't revolve around them like yours does.
>>24579034
I think my main problem is that I don't have a passion in my life. I don't have anything I want to do or achieve enough that I'd be willing to risk even my meager existence for. I try every day to find some sort of passion and figure out what to do but after a decade of thinking about it I still haven't come up with anything.
At this point I can't really imagine being any less*satisfied with my life as time goes on, but that's relying on my life actually staying the same and my parents being able to support me as a NEET, which may not always be the case. If it comes down to it, I'm really not afraid of death. For now, my plan is to just keep living the NEET life until I can find something better or everything comes crashing down.
>>24579230
>focusing on myself more
by posting on /r9k/?
wew lad
>>24579265
Eh, I enjoy programming but I couldn't do that every day probably, I get burnt out and just get bored. I mean shit I'm on a week break from class for Thanksgiving and 2 days in I'm just completely fucking bored.
>>24574256
>>24574286
I'd rather stay at home then go through all that perilous bullshit.
Fuck off. You all disgust me. If you seriously care about getting better, go get better. This isn't the place to whine about how you want to get better.
>>24579293
Yeah spending time on 4chan is me-time. You sound salty. Poor little virgin.
>>24579091
I can't tell if you met the wrong person, if deep down you're a true robot (which is rare) or if you're just feeling teenage misanthropy, or all of this... But you're true in saying that having a gf and friends and job won't solve all the problems of everyone. But again most people here are failed normies so I'm sure it applies to them.
>>24579336
This thread was made for people who don't see they need to get better.
>>24579312
It's hard to find a hobby. Most people don't have hobby actually apart from bullshit like traveling and mainstream music. And I feel the same about programming. Anyway really hope your life will slowly get better.
>>24579312
Yeah, I understand that.
There are things I enjoy and things that interest me, but they're either things that are virtually impossible to make money doing or things I'm just not passionate enough about to risk anything to have a slight chance at success.
For example, if I could actually make any worthwhile amount of money doing something like repairing antique toy trains, I'd be all over it, but it just seems completely unrealistic. Sure, there are a small number of people who do it, but it seems like they're in different situations (e.g. having enough money to own a store, or knowing someone who has a store and could give them a job). There aren't any train shops near where I live, and I sure as hell can't afford to open my own shop. I could post an ad and do freelance work, but where I live I'd probably get one task a year if any at all, and that's certainly not going to help me contribute to my family's expenses.
>>24574256
I remember going normie a year ago. Big mistake, I had nothing in common with these people and of the 30+ I met at social gathering there are only 2 that I stayed in contact with. The rest were just to normie for my liking to the point where I would have to keep up a very exhausting facade just to have any form of interaction with them, and don't even get me started on the women. I always considered women in general to make for poor companionship but nothing could have prepared for the "stacies" of the world. These people follow a fucking flowchart for interest, behavior and appearance it was like some surreal stepford wives shit. The chads where pretty decent although we didn't have much common ground, at least they offered drugs and booze. I did end up meeting this girl at work who I thought was great until she revealed her slut powerlevel and mentioned cheating on her ex-boyfreind. All in all normie life is a 6/10, robot life a 4/10 and cyborg life 7/10
>>24579473
You might as well turn that me-time into me-me-time if you know what I'm saying.
Haha okay, I heard a few times about how /r9k/ became the house of the betas and saw a few of your ebin maymays but never actually been there, and that's the first thread I see.
Everyone seems to eat the shit served here so I'll make a hateable post and assume the consequences -- which will never be the same.
You don't fucking need people you hate.
The suffering you feel seems to gravitate around "social anxiety" and celibate. So be it, but ask yourself why you need either friends or a girlfriend.
You need friends ? what for exactly, being your free psychotherapists and unpaid companions ? people befriend over common interests, if you go to parties with people mainly driven by instafame and wealth appetite, you're gonna crash and burn.
Just imagine a tattooed instafuccboi trying to discuss skinny jeans and skateboarding at a party organized by introvert STEM students, he'd be fucking ridiculous. Except introverts don't feel the urge to hurt other people's feelings to feel better. But these people do, and will destroy you publicly and you'll feel worse than ever. Damn, curing your lack of friends by befriending the people you hate is clearly suicide by poison.
You need a girlfriend ? to have sex ? to be the extension of your mother ? you want to be mollycuddled and told you're a special snowflake, feel loved and shit ?
Guess what, these are collateral benefits of a relationship.
You should get a girlfriend because you're being so attractive TO HER -and not only in a physical way but, hey, I'm not gonna lie- that she wants to offer you these things. So you'd better work on becoming attractive than anything else, otherwise you're putting carts before horses.
DO NOT invent stories about whatever he said. Do not invent anything actually. Just dodge topics by being calm, confident, giving thousand miles stares every often and ask people about trivial subjects.
Must most important of all things... stop thinking you need this, and don't feel bad when you get home.
>>24578352
Use your good job to be a beta provider for a woman who's done with her 'wild' times and couldn't hook a Chad.
>>24579480
My life is just boring, I am content with that but there's not much to do and all I see in the future is me maybe getting a job related to what I want to do but getting fucking bored a month into that and then having to ride that out for 50 years.
>>24579656
I'm not telling to go for the superficial chad/stacy lifestyle. Generally in your major there will be a few interesting people. I'm just telling that you will need to go to the parties and talk to people there to fit into that group and get friends. Or to pursue hobbies you like to get friends.
Also when you're 18/21 and a loser you may hate almost everyone. Sadly I had baseless negative opinions on a lot of people and realized too late they were very interesting.
You're right about pursuing relationships with people you hate... but often the hate isn't justified.
>>24579968
>but often the hate isn't justified
not everyone had the moral strength to like people that represent everything they had to struggle with all their life
I'm not saying that they should hate everyone but going to random parties is a 100% crash and burn for socially inept guys
>>24580026
It will happen to me tomorrow because I have to follow my rules. We'll see. Of course ideally you start with small parties with people you know and build from that. But going to a big party and being decent or sucking and realizing it's not that bad can help a lot.
What if you have a sort of normie life but it makes you want to die? I go out, I socialize, I meet people, but no matter what I do, it just feels empty. I try and try and try, but it doesn't feel like everyone has made it out to be.
Thinking about doing some heroin, putting on Diiv, and just fading out.
I'm nearly 27, I have a useless B.A. work part time in a retail environment and spend most of my time in my room accomplishing nothing because I'm paralyzed by fear and self loathing. I want to go back to school, I qualify for FAFSA but I don't know what to do I have no motivation and no sense of what kind of career I want for myself.
Time slips away faster and faster each day and it's becoming genuinely frighting that my development as a functioning adult human is entirely arrested this late into my twenties. In my job I see people I knew from HS driving nice cars and doing things with their lives while I live like I'm still a teenager.
I look around and take inventory of my life and I realize that I have no hobbies (video games don't count), no interests, nothing tha makes me stand out. I'm not as smart as I like to pretend I am and I'm a massive push over.
I feel like my life is a train-wreck and I have no idea where to begin even cobbling this life together. Reading this thread isn't helping with everyone saying it's impossible to fix your shit after college.
Is there any hope for someone like me to unfuck myself? I don't even care about becoming a "normie" and losing my KV status. I just want to feel independent, to live in my own place and earn enough to be something approaching happy.
>>24580379
Work enough so you can live on your own.
You sound a lot like me at 27, working shit temp jobs, still living with the parents. Life slipping away.
Not that I'm much better now at 34, but I support myself and am a lot happier than I was back then.
But, if you're hoping for a glamorous life and women, it's very likely over. That doesn't mean you can't be happy, though.
>>24580379
>I just want to feel independent, to live in my own place and earn enough to be something approaching happy.
Then why the fuck do you care if other people are "doing things with their lives"?
Please tell me
Is 22 still young?
>>24580539
>But, if you're hoping for a glamorous life and women, it's very likely over.
Never interested me to begin with, but thanks for letting me know it at least improved some what for you.
>>24580553
For reference? I don't really care what they're doing personally, but it's a way for me to see just how stunted I am in so many ways.
>>24580379
>>24580639
Have you thought about learning a trade? Blue collar jobs pay pretty well and working with your hands might be a good and productive distraction
>>24580635
yes
you still have your whole life ahead of you
>>24576003
Fuck, I'm 21 and shit is starting to get depressing with women. At 18 I still had hope. Now... I've resigned myself to KV status.
>>24576513
Same as you except we meet IRL 3-4 times a year, it's been around 7 years now. They're the only people I talk to now, no idea what I would to without them.
>>24574256
You helped a bit ;-;
