>He complains about women not being virgins because it displays a lack of self control
>He masturbates, which also displays a lack of self control, perfectly fine
Why this double standard?
Yes, I know there are other reasons to not want a non-virgin girl; I am only referring to this reason.
>>29766070
Jokes on you you baiting nigger I haven't jerked off for a weekDon't forget to sage lads
>>29766070
I thought girls masturbated too.
When did sex became masturbation? Does that mean all these virgin neckbeards aren't actually virgin and we were making fun of them all those years for nothing?
>>29766282
>Jokes on you you baiting nigger I haven't jerked off for a week
>Only a week
I'm talking about period. Wow you went a week without fapping. You say that as if it's an accomplishment.
>Wow I went a week without fucking Chad, fuck off you baiter, I clearly have self control!
>>29766287
Sex is not masturbation. Girls do not masturbate as much as men, at least partially because they have dick on tap. You're missing the point I'm trying to make here, which is that hating a woman for having sex, because she "lacks self control", is stupid if one gives into their urge to masturbate, which also displays a lack of self control. If you fap you have no right to criticize roasties for this reason.
>>29766070
A girl having had sex with another person does not equate to a guy having masturbated.
>>29766320
>comparing jerking off to getting a dick rammed into your mouth/vagina
Lmao fuck off mate
>>29766337
>>29766348
As far as self control or lack thereof goes, it does.
Both don't resist their urges. Not an argument.
I don't masturbate, but I occasionally look at porn and play porn games to help think creatively.
>>29766320
>Girls do not masturbate as much as men, at least partially because they have dick on tap.
And that is why there is the double standard. Women will always have an easier time getting sex.
If they didn't have 'dick on tap' and were on the same level as guys we wouldn't have this thread or any discussion about 'roasties'.
>>29766070
obvious jewbait, how do you goyims even fall for this?
>>29766356
Take your bait from about 2 weeks ago and fuck off seriously you're not going to win this one.
>>29766356
A guy not resisting his urge to masturbate is within his own domain and doesn't effect anyone else. Especially if he does it in private like any sane individual.
A girl going out and having sex puts herself at risk to STI/STD's, and depending upon the situation tarnishing her reputation if she does not keep it private.
Both are not resisting their urges. But that does not make it the same.
>>29766070
Pulling your goalie is different than having sex with as many men as physically possible senpai
Men call MOST women sluts and whores. When in reality, men are the biggest and most promiscuous whores you'll ever meet, due to years + years of PORN brainwashing.
A woman can be like me, and only have 1 sexual partner in her entire life. As for other sexual actions, like masturbation, I do not watch porn and never have. When I masturbate I only masturbate to the thought of my partner, or when I was single I would just masturbate to the thought of nothing (laying in bed and thinking about the chores I have to do tomorrow). I rarely masturbate. MOST women are like this. Most women do not consume porn. Most women do not use porn. Porn is not marketed to women.
Men, on the other hand, the very same men that denounce me as a whore, may or may not be virgins. That doesn't really matter in this case. What matters is the fact that these men have spent the last 10 years of their life jerking off to images and videos of other, strange women. Women they have NO feelings for, women whose parents they've never met, women whose names they don't even know. They've released endorphins and neurotransmitters and developed attachments to these random women. They've sexually desired to the point of ejaculation probably hundreds if not thousands of diff men and women in their entire lives. They've strangled and gripped their cocks so much that it's led to a decrease in sensitivity.
These men have had their lives shaped and ruined by their decade long porn use. Their ideals for women have been wrecked. Their interests and values have been brainwashed. They've developed degenerate "fetishes". They've developed unnescessary demands of the "women" they denounce, like expecting their gfs do anal, etc.
Who is the real whore here? The women whose sexual experience begins and ends at trying to please their loving partners in long term relationships? Or the degenerate sex-hungry men who've broken their dicks from watching thousands of hours of other women getting fucked?
>>29766467
>le dank copy pasta face
You know where the door is.
>>29766393
>Jews own the porn industry
>Supposedly don't want whites to breed
>Calls out someone for mastubating???????
If it weren't summer, I'd accuse you of missing the short bus.
>>29766378
Right. But again both are giving into biological urges and display a lack of self control.
>>29766394
>Bait
How is it bait?
>>29766417
>A guy not resisting his urge to masturbate is within his own domain and doesn't effect anyone else. Especially if he does it in private like any sane individual.
Whether or not he "affects" anyone else by doing it is irrelevant. It still displays a lack of self control, which is what I want you guys to understand. You are right, it's not as egregious as sex because that risks the spread of STIs.
>depending upon the situation tarnishing her reputation if she does not keep it private.
Same can apply to a man masturbating. Men have crazy fetishes at a much higher rate than women (the worst they're into is domination/BDSM), so it not being absolutely private and getting caught could spell disaster.
This isn't even touching on how porn is closely associated with masturbation and the negative affects that has.
>>29766467
What if I only fap to vanilla 2D?
>>29766495
I sincerely doubt you do. But if you do, props to you.
>>29766070
I want a virgin girl, but I don't care if she masturbates. Because I'm a virgin but I masturbate. You are equating two different things to make us seem like hypocrites.
>>29766467
This thread seems way more personal now after this post.
What happened OP? You're really taking this far. I can't tell if you really believe the things you wrote in this post, but if you do you seem kinda jaded and I'm sorry to see that.
If its true you've only had one partner and the other personal stuff you shared, I think most people here wouldn't call you a slut or whore by any means.
And you're making a pretty generalized assumption about men masturbating.
Seriously, what happened?
>>29766544
>What happened OP?
He's not me.
>>29766513
>I'd rather have a "virgin" gf who has masturbated to 100,000 hours of nigger BBC porn using her nigger lookalike dildo than a girl who had sex with her long-term bf a dozen times
>>29766544
I'm not OP, I just agree with him/her.
More than a handful of people can hate porn, you know. It isn't some sacred entity. Fuck you.
>>29766070
>>29766070
Well there is no double standard you can masturbate too
>>29766491
I agree both lack self control, but that does not make a guy masturbating equal to a girl having sex. They both give into urges and lack self control sure, but you can't put them in the same league.
You can talk about porn all you like, when are we gonna discuss erotica and sex toys that blow out vaginas?
>>29766570
Did somebody dump you for porn?
>>29766572
>Implying most men here don't complain about women being sluts when they use dildos
>>29766597
>You can talk about porn all you like, when are we gonna discuss erotica and sex toys that blow out vaginas?
There's not one shred of scientific evidence to back the roastie meme up.
>>29766570
No sex has actually happened in the case of masturbation. I want a girl with no actual sexual experience just like me. Once I have that experience, even "vigin" will stop being a requirement. Because I'm not hypocritical.
>>29766597
Honestly I'd feel better having sex with someone who's previous sexual activity begun and ended at "had sex with people they love in loving, long term relationships" rather than "constantly jerked it to BBC and degenerate looking pornstars multiple times a week".
The former shows that they value sex as something intimate and only do it under serious circumstances. The latter turns sex into a degenerate spectacle, it's not normal, humans were never meant to jerk off every day to hour-length 1080p HD porn with all of the unnatural poses/camera angles/tits/asses/dicks etc.
Also those giant sex toys that you see, are rarely used by women outside of the porn industry. Usually gay guys buy them to stimulate anal. If women do buy toys they're either dildos under 5 inches (smaller than most men), or just plain vibrators. Again, an example of how you've been brainwashed by porn if you think that those giant sex toys used by pornwhores are actually used by real women.
>>29766636
No, I dumped a porn addict.
>>29766648
Are you looking for a long term serious monogamous relationship?
>>29766393
Oy VEY yes what stupid goys!
Don't fuhged to pay a income tax to support Israel!
Shabbat shalom
>>29766467
Ayy this is pretty good. Truth right here. Men will call a woman a whore for having committed sex while they can fap to beastiality loli hentai while still thinking of themselves as more pure than the woman who had sex. It's ridiculous.
>>29766699
Read this, porn harms the family and marriage too--chances are if you're masturbating you're doing it to porn.
http://www.frc.org/onepagers/the-effects-of-pornography-on-individuals-marriage-family-and-community
>>29766730
In my eyes its an ideal of romance rather than an ideal of an individual, for both parties to be each other's firsts. Porn is just a way to achieve orgasm by yourself. I absolutely don't care about porn being watched by my partner. I also only care about us both being virgins while I am also a virgin.
>>29766680
I think that's what most people want deep down. A relationship with meaning, where the sex holds value.
Its hard for guys to have any self control when all we see in the media is how women are out having a good time being promiscuous and most guys here wouldn't even have a shot with a girl.
How can anyone put value on sex when most of the women we see don't seem to care either.
Personally, I'd be happy with a girl that's only had serious relationships. Chatting with a girl now that seems that way.
Also that sucks about the porn addict. But that generalization that all men or guys are like that is offensive. That you or op would assume we have sick nasty kinks when all we want is someone to trust and be with is upsetting.
>>29766730
Most men who are 25 have masturbated to porn for 10+ years, multiple times a week.
They're eternally ruined. Their psyche is wrecked beyond believe, it's the equivalent of a woman having 10+ years of casual sex partners.
Even if they were to quit now they'd never actually be pure.
>>29766730
>Men will call a woman a whore for having committed sex
You are beyond retarded holy shit go get your noggin' checked.
>>29766070
So what you're trying to say OP is, is that men shouldn't jerk off at all and should walk around with blue balls, constant raging erections and they should suffer from good ol wet dreams that end up in a sticky mess for years?
Sounds like a good idea :^)
>>29766070
>He complains about women not being virgins because it displays a lack of self control
>But girls masturbate as well. They buy vibrators that cost over $50-100 and they get to have sex easier than men. This isn't a good comparison. Girls who fuck a lot are known to be cheaters and unclean. You're still a virgin if you masturbate and you can't be promiscuous. Not the same.
Try again
>>29766885
You should show some self control, yes. If you want to experience sexual pleasure, contribute to the white race via a relationship with a woman who also has that kind of self control in either a long term relationship or marriage.
Don't be a perverted degenerate.
>>29766885
Not OP but masturbation is fine without pornography and healthy.
Do you not realize that you can do one without the other?
>>29766822
At least the men on r9k seem to have this view. Most of them think that if she isn't a virgin, she's a whore.
Please consider that masturbation is the closest I'll get to real sex, unless I pay for it.
Females can't really understand this because they always have options
>>29766070
People encourage both nowadays, and both aren't fine.
>>29766972
>Please consider that masturbation is the closest I'll get to real sex, unless I pay for it.
What prevents you from getting real sex without a prostitute, specifically?
Don't call me a normie, answer. Most people on this board could have real sex if they lowered their standards (I'm one of the few who can't).
>>29766972
What's wrong with paying for it?
Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world, men have been paying for sex since the beginning of time.
Plus nothing is stopping you from masturbating without porn.
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>>29766793
This post is underrated
(not OP)
I've never really heard any guy say they'd never date a girl that masturbates and I don't think masturbation displays a lack of self control at all. Besides, masturbating to a video and having sex with someone are two completely different levels of self control.
Nor does not being a virgin display a lack of self control either. I think you might be confusing not being a virgin with having a huge ass body count
>>29767068
>he thinks it's pronounced "say-ge"
>>29767035
>What prevents you from getting real sex without a prostitute, specifically?
I have avoidant personality disorder and am borderline hikkikomori
>>29767048
I don't want to have sex without feelings, it's not worth the money, and I don't want to throw my virgnity out of the window.
Sometimes I do masturbate without porn, but it's nice to see art that connects with my preferences. I almost exclusively fap to 2d btw
>b...b...but muh double standards
Why is it that women only focus sexual double standards? And why do they forget that there are a lot of double standards against men?
>>29767195
Okay guess, since masterbatiing is the same as having sex i guess we're all no virgins now, i can't wait to get married to a woman that's been gang banged and drank cum 100 times, it's only fair because I've masturbated before, i understand the beauty of being a cuck now, you've completely changed by mind on whores with this single thread.
>>29767195
>Muh female deflection
Why not address my point?
>>29766070
>comparing sex to masturbation
>two nonidentical things are somehow a double standard
this is no doubt a troll but in the sliver of a chance that it's not: no one is saying women can't masturbate, so it's not a double standard
>>29767598
You're trying to justify having fucked lots of guys by claiming it's the same as masturbation.
i actually feel kind of bad for this roastie.
>>29767691
I'm a male, just one with self control.
>>29767728
So you're a white knighting cuck, good to know.
>>29767728
why don't you go save all the whores at your local strip club? why are you wasting time on r9k?
Masturbation feels good. I feel good when I masturbate.
So fuck you OP.
>>29767879
>Hedonism
Literally no better than a roastie
>>29767936
>he fell for the le hedonism is bad meme
fuckin nerd lmao
>>29766467
shit. I've just been btfo, haven't I?
Also, nobody here is bunking this shit, only implying that you are emotionally damaged. Fucking robots, no logic.
>>29766070
First of all, I don't know anyone who is affected by a girl not being a virgin, maybe you live in muslimistan, and your scenario just doesn't count, or you are just wrong. Second, I've never heard people say that it's because "one lacks self control". You are living in cuckoo land, is america really like saudi arabia? I don't know, cause I don't live there, but these views seem so alien to me.
>Another le porn is bad and beta men shouldn't fap to porn while women should be able to fuck all the chads they want.
>>29766070
>Le porn is bad
This reminds me of the manipulated man where it says about how society wants to look down on male masturbation so male sexuality can only be archieved through a woman.
>>29768485
>>29768552
>Scientific research on how porn affects the brain doesn't exist hurr
>>29766747>>29766911
>>29766913
>>29768607
Biggest redpill I've had in a long time. Thanks senpai. /pol/ btfo /r9k all day
>>29768658
I really hope you're just pretending to be retarded
>>29766070
I've never complained about women not being virgins. I just don't find them very attractive for potentially marrying them. I'd date a non virgin even, but they're at a severe disadvantage as far as me ever wanting to make a commitment like that.
>inb4 "you're just a fat autistic neckbeard virgin! No girl would ever want to marry you"
>I'm not actually any of those things.
>>29768607
There is "scientific" research on how everything can be bad for you.
>>29766070
>resisted the urge last night
I hate fapping. Few things make me feel more pathetic
>>29766070
>A woman sucking nigger cock is the same as a man fapping to porn of it.
>>29766467
>This
If only earth isn't filled with men r9k would be less cancerous
>>29768883
I never said that, simply that both show a gross lack of self control.
Both are massive degenerates.
The universe gives humans ONE gift. It throws endless pain and suffering at us, but gives us the ability to touch ourselves and experience momentary solace in the hell that is life. We can do it as much as we want and it's free. Why would you ever turn down this gift?
>mfw jerking off to big juicy anime tiddies
>>29768966
>tfw i can't fap to real girls anymore thanks to hentai.
>>29768909
But you understand they are not the same.
Hence why the "double standart" exist.
Male masturbation is looked down way more than non virgin women having sex.
>>29768986
Same.
God bless 2D.
>>29769028
>Dooming your race
2D is cancer purely because people get addicted to it and can't get it up for a real woman.
>>29768986
you don't understand I don't even jerk off to /h/ stuff just give me a close up of some tiddies and I'm good
List two things that you hate the most about men (Fembots only)
>Imagines having sex with different types of women he never met and calls himself pure
and still thinks subconsciously about them despite having a gf
>Always judge people by their appearance more than women
>>29769105
I've never been with a woman in the first place, and never will be, so your argument is worthless.
And why would a woman want to be with a guy who faps to only 2D when she can have thousands of chads and nomal men who would want to reproduce with her? mankind will not be doomed because i don't want to masturbate to real porn.
>>29769123
That's because 2D is a blessing.
>>29766348
This.
The two do not equate. One is entirely risk free, relieves tension, and requires no contact with someone. Sex is entirely different. Yes both involve giving into desire, but desiring cocaine vs a big Mac do too.
>masturbate because women don't put out for 1-5/10 men while riding the rest of the cocks constantly so they have no need for masturbation
>UGH such a manchild, could you like stop masturbating? It's disgusting
Yes, I should depend entirely on women and seek their approval in everything to get sexual release, then I'd be a good slave, wouldn't I?
