In a thread on /pol/ someone posted a video about a Ryan Matheson. While crossing the border into Canada, customs/immigration seized his laptop, searched it, and found some manga magazines they deemed as 'child pornography" (if you watch the video you'll find out the manga art wasn't even lewd)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdgSEPPCZs
So what does /r9k/ think about lolicon? It's technically illegal in Canada as well as in some US states, but should it really be? Should someone really be sent to jail just for possessing lewd drawings of cartoons? Is this really right?
Should someone really spend years in jail just for possessing art society deems "unacceptable"?
>canadacucks and eurocucks can't even read mangas
LMAO
>>29615804
I think it's a very serious issue that should be given some attention, especially in cucked Europe.
A lot of officers are trained to associate anything with anime and manga as "porn" and "illegal porn" at that.
It also brings to question how could anyone possibly know the age of a drawn character.
And even besides all of that, there's still the issue of the drawing not being an actual human being. Do cartoon drawings and images hold rights equal to humans now?
In what sane world would people in jailed for having art?
>>29615766
>art
define """art""".
i hate weeb faggots but its just fucking cartoons sucks that that faggot got fucked by some cucks
>>29615766
This is like the modern day witch hunts.
>>29615978
Literally anything can be art.
>>29616025
define art.
>>29615978
i suppose art is indeed pulling it.
What I mean by art is drawings, images, anything like that.
I just don't believe it is right that people are being locked up for having things like this.
I don't know why but it's really triggering me, for the severe lack of a better term.
It just doesn't seem right. This seems so damn wrong and almost evil.
It's like the normies gets to jail us robots just for having interests and likings that they don't approve of, that they literally do not understand and will never take the time TO understand.
They just see "loli" and think it's on the same level as CP.
It's not right...
>>29616030
The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination.
>>29616105
original art was neither creative nor imaginative.
>>29616120
hey nigger go die or stop being a faggot i think you should just end it desu
>>29616120
I don't give a single fuck about your personal definition of art.
>>29615991
to piggyback off of this most weebs don't know how to draw and that's what makes them jerk to cartoons
>>29616132
>>29616132
It's not my definition.
I am just showing you the flaws of your own.
I haven't said anything on the nature of art as of yet.
By the way, cave paintings aren't really very skillful either.
>>29616151
Literally anything anyone does takes skill, it doesn't matter how much is required. A homeless person shitting on the sidewalk is art.
>>29616148
but anime does give valuable insight to information
I like petite girls with wide hips
And a fetish for sexy small things in general
Lolicon almost always fills that fetish
>>29616196
As stated above,
In certain countries or states, you would be jailed for having this fetish. Because of your differences, you would be punished, even if your outlet to soothe this urge was completely individualistic and nobody was being harmed in doing so.
Why does it seem like we, r9k and 4chan in general, are the only people to see the flaw in this viewpoint?
Why can't the normies understand that banning loli is completely ludicrous?
>>29616306
Normies are incapable of expressing their true feelings about something because they fear being left out. In addition, normies are extremely against change so they never have the opportunity to notice that your immediate thoughts about things are vastly different based on your environment. Because of this they ignorantly think that their current feelings are the way that they will always feel and that everyone shares those feelings.
This is Loli porn that i just drew. its clearly a child and mother incest story, but would that be legal? how much quality should the drawing consist of before its illegal?
Somoeone could probably paint a hundret versions of this drawing with just slightly better quality each time until someone could call it "too much"
Who could ever decide the lline before its grafic child porn?
>>29616306
Because normalfags have trouble seperating fantasy and fiction. For them real life and their own self confidence is so good that they inject their own ego and reality into everything they do. Hence why they can't stand killing people in games violence against women in them and drawn pictures of little girls.
Normalfags should be gassed
>>29616395
And that's the entire point.
The entire flaw in this whole mindset behind banning loli.
It's. A. Fucking. Drawing.
It can be interpenetrated in over a million different types of ways. It can be drawn in over a million different types of ways.
You say it's a child mother insect. I could say it's an old mother and her adult midget daughter with a growth abnormality. who have large busts.
That is what really confuses me with the whole banning loli idea. It's just so stupid. It's so cruel.
It's a damn drawing.
>>29616378
I really like this posts and the points you made.
>>29616433
Also like this post.
Normies seem to be incapable of changing their minds about anything.
Once they believe anything, they seem to always stick with it no matter what.
>>29615766
they didn't seize his labtop, the nigger said himself he willingly gave them the password and everything despite not having to. the real issue here is why was Ryan Matheson so stupid.
>all these anons defending a literal retard
>>29616579
If he didn't give him the password or laptop that would both make him seem even more suspicious, and deny him entry into the country.
>>29616395
holy keks i am laffin
I fucking hate it, /b/ is just becoming a Loli Dump
>>29616579
the problem is that when people confront with stressful situations they are so scared that they comply
maybe they didnt tell him that he can choose to not give the pass
or maybe they told him that if he complies, it will be easily for him
>>29616635
being suspicious is not the same as being unlawful and he was within his rights to say no to them. sure, he would have been there longer but he also would have not been jailed.
>>29615978
I don't have to.
I'll just define child abuse: acts which harm children. Child pornography is definitely child abuse, but is drawing naked kids child abuse?
According to its definition- it's not.
>>29616734
Child abuse is degenerate.
imagery evoking child abuse is similarly degenerate.
>>29616734
And with that, the entire argument against lolicon is essentially blown out of the water.
Lolicon does not hurt or harm anybody.
Therefore, why is it illegal to posses it in some areas?
It's just stupid.
>>29616759
>Being a degenerate is illegal.
I'm sorry, what?
Pretty much nobody gives a fuck. Tons of loli porn is constantly download. If nobody is affected the police don't actually care. Just don't publicize to everyone irl that you fap to 2D lolis and you're fine. It's just a drawing, nobody's getting hurt. Besides lolis honestly look more like short teenagers than kids anyway.
>>29616759
>things that never happened to people who don't exist are degenerate
Better ban them there vidya games too there anon they be makin them kids violent psychopaths
>>29616769
being a degenerate is illegal
Let's look at other kinds of degeneracy.
How about homosexuality?
It's degenerate, isn't it?
And it has been illegal (or at the very least shunned by society) for that very reason for a long time.
The problem with lolicon isn't the illegality either, but the connotations associated with it by society.
>>29616759
By that logic, violent video games too should be banned since they depict people being murdered, which is degenerate (killing people.)
That's a very flawed argument.
>>29616820
>Better ban them there vidya games too there anon they be makin them kids violent psychopaths
yeah, let's do that.
Especially since there's no artistic merit to be found there.
>>29616846
"Artistic merit" is completely subjective.
>>29616924
No, artistic merit is near objective.
The only reason you might not see it as such is because you have enough experience with art in general
>>29616846
>he thinks we want video games to be art.
They are entertainment plain and simple. In case you didn't know the human mind needs time to relax between bouts of being useful to society.
That being said we are on /r9k/ and part of the few that leech of others hard work. It's the least you normalfags can do after ostracizing us to begin with.
>>29616666
you laffin but im checcn
>>29617048
show the distinction between "entertainment" and "art"
>In case you didn't know the human mind needs time to relax between bouts of being useful to society.
art itself is harmful to society, why would you consider artist to be "useful"?
>>29617066
Entertainment:
>the action of providing or being provided with amusement or enjoyment.
Art:
>the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture
How is art harmful to society? How is looking at a painting or sculpture or drawing cause harm to a person?
>>29617066
>art is harmful to society
>culture is harmful to society
Firstly that's like asking the difference between art and porn. There is and we all know it why don't you?
And secondly as a robot to a normalfag
Kill yourself my bro
>>29617132
please don't quote dictionaries, especially entries as cherrypicked and vague as these, it makes you look stupid and uneducated.
>How is art harmful to society?
How does society benefit from art?
Art is an expression of ideas, communication. Naturally, not all ideas expressed are beneficial to society.
>How is looking at a painting or sculpture or drawing cause harm to a person?
"person" is not synonymous with society, why would you think such a thing?
>>29617246
>culture is harmful to society
Yes, culture is dangerous.
Apply yourself.
>we all know it
Then tell me, what is the difference between art and pornography?
>>29617293
When the Mongolians invaded ancient China and shit on the what was it Han ming I don't rmemeebr dynasty they settled down in their lands and we're absorbed into the culture became chinese. Culture is a safeguard.
Apply yourself
The difference is the value they add. Pornography/ Entertainment appeals to the lizard brain art appeals to the higher functions.
Art is a way of communication, advanced communication if you ask me. How can you talk like Van Gogh or Basquiat paintings did? These things touches people in no other way possible, gives a feeling of living, of spirituality, of reality.
>>29616148
This makes no fucking sense. Why would knowing how to draw make you not jerk it to cartoons?
>>29616579
No. Canada can sieze any laptop or tablet and check it. Even without probable cause or warrant. If he refused it's likely they would have detained him and confiscated the laptop anyway.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/smartphone-laptop-searches-know-rights/
>>29617066
Society is evil, who cares.
>>29615766
>jailing someone for looking at drawings
>b-b-b-b-but they might go and download real cp later!
>implying it's right to jail someone for something that they might do
Lolicon/drawn children is not illegal and should never be. It harms absolutely no one, in fact it probably satisfies a good portion of pedophiles from acting on their urges. Protected by the 1st amendment.
Actual CP is deplorable, always, but complicated. Some sick fuck has thousands of hardcore, full penetration, rape type shit? He should be put in a mental institution and constantly monitored for a good few years until he learns how not to be fucked up. Not jail though, it is a mental illness.
However, if there's no actual sex happening, and no adults in the pictures or whatever, I don't really see why the kids would be harmed. It's still fucked up, but if it can be proven that no children were harmed in the pictures, the authorities should wipe the stuff and let them off with a stern warning. That ought to wake them up.
The one thing I am really pissed off about is Megan's law. This can fuck a person up for the rest of their lives, for something like peeing next to a school when drunk at night. Personally I think it's just wrong to put those kind of "offenders" along with rapists and child molesters.
But hey, I'm a fedora sicko pedo rapist atheist neckbeard dork libertarian, who cares what I think.
>>29615766
Can customs just search your computer? Are you compelled to provide a password?
>>29617700
This in a nutshell. So much of this.
>>29617735
And yes, in Canada at least, you are forced to.
Bampin dis originial bred
As a guy who would love to torture pedophiles in the most morbid ways imaginable, I actually believe that giving them alternative outlets to child pornography is a great thing.
Some might say that sexualizing minors in artwork is disgusting and only encourages them to act on their thoughts, but what other options do they have besides raping a child or getting caught with legit CP?
As long there is no REAL victim in the images then I have no problem with it and neither should the law.
>>29618528
Agreed.
It's better to allow them a safe, individual outlet than to strip it away from them and force them to do horrid things in reality.
It's only pictures and no fictional works should ever be banned.
People are extremely hostile for no reason, it's so god damn stupid.
>>29618528
>As a guy who would love to torture pedophiles in the most morbid ways imaginable
Why do people post shit like this like it's a good thing and a source of pride?
You're literally worse than a pedo, a normalfag who buys into mob mentality and artificial hysteria. Retards like you are why the holocaust happened, retards like you are why the chinas "great leap forward" happened.
It's not pedos who need to be tortured, it's latent psychopaths who are looking for a socially acceptable excuse to unleash their violent tendencies need to be bred out of the gene pool.
>>29617735
They will obviously ask for your windows/login password but if they don't notice anything 'concerning' after a quick inspection you should be fine
>>29615766
what was the reason for them to take his laptop?
>>29618528
>As a guy who would love to torture pedophiles in the most morbid ways imaginable,
You really sound like a normie.
>>29618528
Anyone interested in torturing human beings for fun is really not someone that should ever be listened to.
>>29618831
>I forgot it xd
I always wondered what would happen after that. I also have multiple OSs so I I wonder if theyd really sift through ever little folder.
>>29618528
Although you started off a bit harsh, your general point is solid.
There are no victims in lolicon. It's a drawing. Pixels on a screen. Ink on a piece of paper. Literally nobody is being harmed from it.
>>29615766
All simulated child pornography should be completely legal, fucked up that they invaded this guy's privacy and put his name out there for the whole world to see and completely nuked his ability to form and maintain social and work relationships.
Shaking my damn head to be honest family.
Illegalizing loli is silly. How the hell do you determine the age of a fucking drawing? When does it become illegal? What if I draw loli and its stick figures?
Mango is lit, normie get off my board go back to pol senpai
>>29618988
Its the perfect law. Because it's so subjective you go by what the perpetrator appears like to you. A cool dude? It's legal. A creeper or someone gubment has a beef with? Those stick figures are lewd, crewd, petofile bait. The worst part of law is they always depended on a behavior, an actual law being violated with no room for interpretation of how much you like the accused. The new world order has solved this little inconvenience.
>>29616759
>using degenerate
>as an argument
>for anything
kys
origami no commento
>>29616044
>They just see "loli" and think it's on the same level as CP.
Mentally it almost is. Maybe they wouldn't ever really molest a child, but you know they'ed love to. I think the world would be a better place if these people were all locked up. Call it a thought crime if you want, but if you're jerking off to porn of children, even if the children are just drawn, you're sick and I want you off the streets.
>>29618923
>I always wondered what would happen after that
They will probably confiscate it and scan the drive to preview all your images/videos/documents. Again, if they see nothing concerning then you should get it back and be free to continue
>>29616044
To be fair, in any case the person is a pedophile which is probably most of what compels laws against CP possession to be drafted. They really just want to put a pedophile away. I don't know if I support the pedophile witchhunt but I do not see much difference in the severity of jacking off to a photo of a kid or a drawing of one. In either case the offender is not really abusing anyone in any meaningful sense BUT he is demonstrating a willingness to indulge his dysfunctional sexuality. I think the most constructive thing would be for society to do an outreach to pedophiles so they can reform as volcels. Sexuality is pretty spiritually compromising all around.
>>29619033
Can we make a compromise and just euthanize me?
>>29619057
It still seems a bit odd that customs would scan your computer.
That seems like a total invasion of personal privacy, regardless of whether you have lolicon or not.
What if someone has photos they don't want anyone else seeing? (You know Stacy' love taking nude photos or webcam videos for their Chads.)? Wouldn't you be pissed off at that?
>>29619033
>Call it a thought crime if you want...
It literally is a thought crime.
You disagree with a certain fetish, and impose your will onto others by punishing them. Even if what they're doing hurts literally nobody, you still want to punish them, JUST because you see them as "disgusting" or what have you.
> Maybe they wouldn't ever really molest a child, but you know they'ed love to.
Now you're just making assumptions based on, again, a fetish you most likely don't understand at all.
This frame of thinking is why laws like this get passed. They don't even try to comprehend us. It's just, "hey, you're looking at pixels I find weird, go to jail!"
>>29619033
>Mentally it almost is. Maybe they wouldn't ever have any illegal opinions, but you know they'ed love to. I think the world would be a better place if these people were all locked up. Call it a thought crime if you want, but if you're critical of the government, even if you genuinely support the government, you're sick and I want you off the streets.
Look how far that escalated.
Food for thought: My edit of your post has actually happened in the past, can easily happen again in the future, and is more likely to happen than a mere exclusive-to-pedophiles surveillance state. Even if the latter did occur, it would not be long at all before it expanded into a general all encompassing surveillance state because the infrastructure would be there and the temptation to abuse it would be too great.
>>29619033
>implying you can arrest someone for being sick
>implying you can arrest someone because of the possibility that they'll commit a crime
Why aren't you applying the same logic to anything else? Lock up those teens playing GTA, they would just love to rob you I'm sure.
>>29615766
>as well as in some US states
No it isn't, most of the cases where people were imprisoned in the US had lolicon as well as cp.
Never just lolicon, & if they were I'm sure it was later appealed.
>>29619141
geh I don't see how you can compare a drawing to the real thing, it's like gore, you may like it in anime but the real thing is nothing close
>>29616044
The word you're searching for is 'upset', anon.
'Triggered' means "upset over a stupid-ass thing for which my reaction is unreasonable, but it's cool 'cause that's my prerogative and I'm special."
Different degrees.
>>29619157
>You disagree with a certain fetish
I don't want to put away people who like feet or being peed on. I want to put away people who want to have sex with children.
>>29619167
But you're saying the problem with getting these people off the streets is that there'd be a precedent for getting rid of other people the government deems undesirable, not that it's wrong to arrest them.
>>29619176
>implying you can arrest someone because of the possibility that they'll commit a crime
Animated child porn should be a crime in itself.
>>29619198
Oh, upsetting is a much better word.
Thank you very much anon.
>>29619194
check pic related. They go right after lolicon.
>>29616759
i dont care about degeneracy so i watch loli all the time but you fags need to quit this degeneracy bullshit not only is it very normalfag but also its not like we would ever amount to shit anyways
>>29619234
Why?
What's the difference from me fapping to it using my imagination, and me drawing it from my imagination to fap to later?
>>29619197
I think if anyone understood how chan-users respond to gore and all manner of lurid imagery, they'd probably want to lock all of us away for a very long time.
>>29619234
>Animated child porn should be a crime in itself.
We're not talking about child porn, we're talking about lolicon.
Nobody here is saying they agree with at all legit cp and people who make/produce it. We're saying it's retarded that people are spending years at a time in prison for looking at a fucking drawing, or owning a lewd manga magazine. That's it.
>>29619234
>should be
Why? Because it triggers you? Because you don't like them for a desire? A desire is not a crime, only an act is. No child was acted upon so no crime is committed.
Fuck off normalfag. Why do you even use 4chan?
>>29619298
>chan-users
Today's chan users want to lock up anyone who likes gore and loli too.
>>29619234
>But you're saying the problem with getting these people off the streets is that there'd be a precedent for getting rid of other people the government deems undesirable, not that it's wrong to arrest them.
If a pedo is literally not raping childen, then there is no reason to arrest them other than thoughtcrime and hurt feelings. If you think thoughtcrime and hurt feelings is sufficient basis to arrest someone, then please leave and go make your own country so you can enjoy the inevitable conclusion that kind of bullshit leads to.
>>29619245
This memechart is bullshit, I live in Texas & give zero fucks.
Pfft I wish someone would try to arrest me over some cartoons.
>>29615766
>"What you in for cracka?"
>"Reading a tale about how one silver coin develops a beautiful relationship between a Michael Clark Duncan fellow and a lad named Guts."
>>29619338
Turn yourself in then.
>>29619330
I didn't say "like" but one can only respond with disgust to something so many times
>>29619338
The data is couple years old, so It may indeed be different now.
>>29619234
It's not animated child porn, what the fuck are you talking about.
This is loli we're talking about, which is protected under the first amendment.
>>29615766
origianal opinion number 4847368272897229
>>29619234
Anon, a crime is defined as an action that brings harm to a person or property.
Speeding, for example, is not a crime.
Punching your buddy in the face is.
Having drawings is not a crime, there is no victim. Victimless crime is an absurdity.
Look up mallum in se versus mallum prohibitum, you'll be redpilled real quick on western nannystate governmental abuse of power.
>>29618528
>As a guy who would love to torture pedophiles in the most morbid ways imaginable
>As long there is no REAL victim in the images then I have no problem with it
The schizophrenia is strong with this one
>>29619437
>Speeding, for example, is not a crime.
Dumb nigger, you'll crash and kill someone.
Digital information in itself is harmless and should not be illegal.
>>29619356
>turning yourself in over something that isn't illegal
Nah, not even going to waste my time.
>>29619452
But I haven't.
Speeding (fun fact for you) is STILL defined as a thing to be tacked to a ticket in the event of an accident and never ever used by itself. Texas, I believe, has that in plain english.
No accident, the cop is breaking the law. But judges ultimately decide that, law be damned.
Most people drive no faster than they can handle. In fact, there have been more accidents per capita after those 'laws' were put in place than before. Looking down to check your speed for fear if a ticket is worse than going 10 over.
>>29618861
did you not watch the video?
he was searched because it was his first time in canada, and when they logged into his laptop they saw an anime wallpaper
apparently anime is a red flag, so they seized it for evidence and further searching
>>29616579
He probably didn't even know he would be jailed. Its pretty preposterous when you consider that YTV used to air Sailor Moon at least once a day.
>>29619543
>They literally think having an interest in anime makes you a pedo.
And this is why the world is such shit.
>>29616734
Can it even really be called "abuse" if some guy is just anonymously sponging images on the deep-web. I think the important matter in either case is that the person posessing the materials outs himself as a pedophile who cannot ultimately restrain his sexual appetites. Its just slightly worse if he has actual CP.
>>29619567
It's true though, kids who grow up on anime always turn into degenerates.
They'd probably be Chads if they just played sports and talked to girls like normal anons
>>29616793
No, explcitly middle-aged anime characters look like teenagers. In most anime everyone looks underaged.
>saving your porn like a pleb
That's where he really fucked up.
>>29619610
>playing sports
>fitting in with the normies
>not being a degenerate in general
You do know this /r9k/, right?
Are have the normies really fucking colonized this board?
>>29619650
What's a better alternative? What could be more convenient?
>>29619489
In response to that image, I'm pretty sure I did SexEd at school at around age 14. Also most girls aren't fully physically developed at that age
>>29619595
>slightly worse if he has actual CP
What is it like to be autistic?
>>29619033
Yes I get called a racist when I suggest black people should be given a life sent at birth. Ah least statistics are on my side, less black people in an area means lower crime rates. Access to porn is correlated with a decrease is sex crimes.
>>29619141
I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of a willingness to indulge in their kink. I know women are the last thing on my mind after I've jacked off.
>>29619452
If you're too stupid to drive then don't drive. Most people are better than you though, don't hold us back out of petty jealousy. I bet you are one of those faggots against drunk driving or possession of recreational drugs too
A victimless 'crime' is not a crime.
keep your shit on lockdown, lads. they shouldnt be able to do this.
>>29619842
All victimless crime laws should be eradicated.
Literally no point in them.
>>29619842
seriously dont speed, tho
>>29619852
Doesn't matter how locked down it is.
If the cops wanna see your shit, they will find it, and they will see it.
There is no escape from this oppressive regime.
>>29619984
Only if you encrypt that shit. Also if you have encrypted shit it'll probably set off red flags
>>29620039
>Not using deniable encryption
>>29620039
>he doesn't put his loli folder on hidden
Lolicon is gay and lame. Shotacon is superior.
>prololicon country
>>29620039
Just use encrypted USBs, they'll never find them & if they do just say you forgot the password.
They can't do shit.
Is there any argument against it which isn't it's 'degenerate' ?
>>29620229
Originally speaking, literally no.
All I've seen thus far is >muh feels!
The only reason thought crime isn't a crime is because they lack the technology.
>>29620267
>ywn tickle Emi's armpits to the point of her pissing herself
There is nothing wrong with it as it causes no harm, people who are pedos are usually fucked up before they become pedos. Some of them blame the porn when they get caught because it makes them the victim rather than the predator.
There's nothing wrong with children seeking sexual pleasure (as most do, almost everyone discovers masturbation on their own during or before puberty and girls discover it much younger than boys on average) either, it's only wrong when much older adults seek to sate their desires on children because of the massive knowledge/power imbalance involved with young children in particular. There's no real evidence showing that consensual (not legal definition ofc) sexual relations with children has any longterm negative effects on their psyches. This is why it's really confounding to me that people want to prosecute female teachers for /ss/ing their students. Yeah I get the whole 'no double standards!' thing but I'm pretty sure very few boys on the cusp of pubescence aren't consenting to that kind of sex with older women.
The entire 'pedophilia' thing is just stupid. 100 years ago it wasn't uncommon for girls as young as 10 or 11 to get married. We're extending childhood to an absurd degree, 18 is a completely arbitrary age of consent. Pubescence is the only logical boundary to set between when sex with a young person is normal or not (though perhaps make it pubescence plus a year or two since pubescence is happening earlier and in some girls, it might occur before sex-ed or their parents give them 'the talk'). I've had 25 year old women accuse me of being a 'pedo' for dating high school girls, it's ridiculous.
It is wrong to have sex with prepubescent children and it is wrong to have non-consensual sex. Everything else about the issue is fair game so far as I'm concerned.
>>29615804
But its perfectly legal in some parts of europe. Here they openly sell it at conventions. Lolicon doujins with little girls spreading their assholes on the covers and its A-ok.
>>29620039
what about hiding it on a usb stick putting inside the laptop. surely they wouldnt put that much effort into the search
>>29620267
>doesn't like anal
Shit waifu
>>29620730
>"That HURT at the end :("
>>29619842
>>29619842
speeding is hardly a victimless crime. Driving is already extremely perilous and when you are not regarding speed deisgnations you are potentially putting other motorists at risk. Maybe if you are going 5 mph over the limit its not much of an offence but the law can only be so accomodating and drag-racing through a city is a matter of reckless endangerment. Furthermore some drugs will turn you into a seriously dangerous person.
>>29621029
So not only are you a victim of speeding, you're a victim of driving? You're a paranoid fuck, just stay in your basement and all is well. I'd hate for you he be a victim of breathing or some other horrible non-victimless crime.
>>29619595
>supporting legitimate child abuse is only slightly worse
>being willing to get off on the genuine abuse of real kids is only slightly worse
>>29619842
>being for drunk driving
>>29621029
How did we get from lolicon to cp to fucking drunk driving.
>>29621172
>Being for zero tolerance
>Not being able to hold your drink
>>29619522
Hold the fuck up, I live in Texas and got a speeding ticket last year. No accident or anything I was just speeding. You're telling me the cop gave me that citation illegally and I could've challenged it?
>>29615766
goddamn brown nosing moral crusader faggots, its time to stand up for personal and artistic expression.
holy shit, i love lawyers
>>29621446
>standing up to the cops in a red state
uh thats not going to happen, too many bootlickers around them parts
>>29621512
>The second he brought in the big guns the Canadian government pissed themselves and backed down.
I think lawyers are the only true people that understand people like us...mostly because they're forced to, but still. Feels pretty good. I got a massive justice boner from the video.
>>29621115
Have you seen some of the shit depicted in lolicon? Conversely a lot of CP is just nudity. I would say getting off to a fictional depiction of a toddler getting spit roasted with jizz coming out of even the damn eye-sockets is automatically more offensive than some naked jailbait-aged girl.
>>29621618
hentai in general is a bit fucked up however, so it's to be expected.
Also, that's not all loli, just some, or a specific type. I personally don't enjoy the dozens of gallons of cum and blood and gore-esque type shit either.
Just like with regular 3d porn, lolicon has all types of varieties and what not.
>>29621618
You have to ''''abuse'''' a real girl to have pics and or video of them though. Actual abuse vs imaginary abuse. Are ''''dark''''thoughts illegal? Freedom of expression means a shit ton, because, if you can't even say whatever you want, then you sure as fuck won't be able to do much. None of this, even the real stuff, was even banned until the late 70s.
>>29620608
that's the most retarded idea ever
>>29621745
No, that's just my point. Some guy surreptitiously scraping images and videos is not abusing anyone besides himself. Its still a "dark thought" to be aroused by an image depicting an actual child, not a form of abuse. At least not in any practical sense.
we sjw nao
>>29615766
It is cp. if you like adult women you would watch regular hentai.
>>29616306
Bullshit. You wont goto jail. Because it's on main stream webisites. I have seen actually cp and watched it on xhamster. It was there for a while and it got cleaned up. Nothing else happens
>>29621029
No drug has ever made anyone dangerous. This isn't star wars. Drugs don't change people. Have you even used drugs before?
>there are people that think you should be "put away" like some sort of household appliance if they don't agree with you, and even more so for completely natural attractions
kek
the earth is a big place, with varying opinions
VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES TURN PEOPLE INTO MURDERS
LOLICON MANGA TURN PEOPLE INTO CHILD RAPISTS
RAPE PORN TURNS MEN INTO RAPISTS
GORE TURNS PEOPLE INTO POTENTIAL MASOCHISTIC TORTURERS
DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS TURNS PEOPLE INTO SATAN WORSHIPPERS
>>29622505
you forgot animal cartoons turns children into furries
>>29622222
dont mind me boyos juct checkin a get
>>29622277
Taking mushrooms will make you totally unpredictable. Of course your most likely to harm yourself but still it ought to be illegal in any case. And what the fuck kind of star wars are you watching anyway anon?
>>29623204
I've taken mushrooms. The only thing I did was lay in bed crying for a few hours then the next few days writing a bit and reading more eastern philosophy than usual. That's about what I was told to expect from taking them and mirrors most other mushroom users' experience.
I don't actually watch star wars but drugs aren't like the force where if you do them you turn evil or some shit.
Even the stereotypical 'bad' drugs like amphetamine just makes me clean up and get a lot more writing done. I wouldn't have finished my masters without the stuff. Drugs don't change people,they only amplify what's already there. If a person would be dangerous on drugs they should be eliminated. Drugs are fine and the benefit they offer to people like me is worth more than all the lives of people who can't handle their selves on drugs put together.
>>29622505
This is essentially the argument against lolicon.
Seems foolish, doesn't it?
>>29622535
tell that to euro anon
>>29621618
that not real CP you see,that just a nudist family pics you can find on google
>>29624006
everyone talks about that site, pur-e nud-ism, right?
Even if it's openly available on google I'd still be too much of a paranoid bitch to visit the site.
I'm sure by now it's probably a damn honeypot or at least puts you on a list.
>>29623914
they have an abundance of children cartoons that have half animal half human protagonists im assuming?
>>29623914
Why are Germans such edgy.
Bampin dis original bred once again
>>29615766
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdgSEPPCZs
I like how lolicon wasn't mentioned anywhere in that video, they made it seem like Canada outlaws all anime porn
>>29625585
still, its just drawings.
>>29615766
Not into it, but it should be legal because it's literally victimless.
>>29625857
Agreed. But if they're goal was to educate people on the subject, they were doing a shitty job of it.
>>29625953
no, theyre going to fap to it, deal with it.
>>29624006
Are you seriously implying that its not CP to take lewd pictures of kids? I don't even know who is baiting who at this point
>>29623366
Get a load of this Machiavellian guy
>>29623914
>furfaggot concentration reaches critical mass as you approach Germany.
I swear, you can't make this shit up
>>29626315
>tfw you realize all Germans are furfags
>>29616479
>incapable of changing their minds about anything
The result of pride
