How do you explain the fact that black people have significantly lower IQ than other races? When it comes to dogs, people readily admit that there are different sub-species (breeds), which differ in intelligence...but when it comes to humans, people insist that we are all the same sub-species with no difference in intelligence among races. Indeed, some people even state that "race" doesn't actually exist and that it's just a social construct.
>>29527116
I consider myself a moderate racist because although I'm not hateful towards people of other races, I do agree with the premise. Black people obviously have much lower IQs than lighter skinned races on average. I attribute it to generations upon generations of malnutrition; malnourished people fucked malnourished people for thousands of years and had half-retarded babies. Eventually, the gene pool was just full potato.
I also believe sun exposure is linked to IQ, based solely on observation of addled old white people in very hot places like Arizona and Texas. The sun does something to your brain. The lighter the skin of a people, the higher the IQ. There were multiple studies proving this but they were swept under the rug by Jewish academics promoting multi-culturalism.
With that said, I pity blacks rather than hating them. They didn't choose to be nignogs any more than I chose to be a pale skinned northern European.
>>29527393
"Swept under the rug by Jews"
Not this time. Every Jew I know loves boasting that Ashkenazi Jews have higher iqs than Asians
This thread is racist as fuck. Go back to /pol/, retards
>>29527393
Cymande is fucking good.
>>29527116
You realize this chart is showcasing AVERAGE IQ, right? Since you make no mention of this in your post, I'm willing to bet there are millions of Blacks with a higher IQ than you--you're clearly no Einstein. Furthermore, IQ has nothing to do with specisation. Zilch. Even within races there's plenty of variability between IQ--look at the Balkans or India; plenty of Caucasians have lower IQs than race average. The only threshold in ability a race must meet, the only capability a race must have to be considered part of the same species, is the ability to produce fertile offspring and blacks do produce fertile offspring. By the laws of specisation, they can't be a 'sub-species'.
Also, senpai, it's sill to compare dog breeds to humans since dog breed aren't different species they're just arbitrary classifications that silly pet show organizations came up with. Even Mastiffs and Chihuahuas can produce fertile offspring.Oh, and GO FUCK YOURSELF, CUMSKIN!
>>29527552
There's jews and then there's jews.
The kind of jews who run around boasting their superiority are not typically the ones who infiltrate and cause problems in white societies.
The jewluminati is a nebulous organization.
>>29527116
You know absolutely nothing about biology. Quit making a fool out of yourself.
>>29527605
Hey OP
nice bait dude
enjoy those 10 shekels
>>29527605
>*is the ability to produce fertile offspring with members of the other race
>>29527577
>muh racism
what a fucking loser hahaha
>>29527577
>>29527669
Samefagging
You're all posting in a shill thread
Pack it up boys
>>29527669
>muh edginess
Go fuck yourself, you unloved mongo
>>29527709
My gf is a social justice retard like you, it's really funny. Turns out beta leftists can't even pleasure a woman.
>>29527709
>not even providing an argument and just throwing out the racism card
If you actually cared about people being racist you'd respond with some kind of logical argument to try and change their views.
>>29527709
>hey man how are you going to convince others that black people aren't inherently stupider?
>i think i'm going to sperg out about how the idea isn't socially acceptable
>>29527759
No that never works. I'm not that anon, but every time I try to make a logical argument, you fucks simply start name calling or, like the large majority, never respond.
It's literally useless. Die
>>29527699
Are you sure it's the jooz and not the Irish?
>>29527792
And what logical argument would you have against the chart in the OP?
Why don't whites accept Jews and Asians as the intellectually superior human sub-species?
>>29527792
If that doesn't work, neither will just calling them a racist. Maybe you won't convince OP, but you might convince a random person looking at this with an open mind.
>>29527839
There's no need to argue the chart, seeing as I've already BTFO his absurd sub-species claim.
>>29527839
Unfalsifiable just so stories about racism causing all inequality, mostly.
>>29527839
I wouldn't argue against that. I would argue against something that states that every single black individual is mentally inferior or something irrational like that.
OP's post is based off of averages and has some truth.
>>29527743
I don't give a shit if you're a racist or not, but being an edgy tryhard is literally the lowest thing you can be
The real mistake is in thinking that more intelligent people are somehow superior individuals or deserve more control and power. There are many people more and less intelligent than me, what's the big deal?
>>29527116
>White scum thinks IQ measures a persons skills and abilities
You're the same faggots that say "tfw smart buy lazy" meme
>>29527116
They evolved in an environment where they could rely on a more primitive intellect. Africa is friendlier for a hunter-gatherer lifestyle
In places like Europe and Asia if you're not smart enough to learn how to survive in the winter you're fucked
I think there's almost a direct correlation between climate and intelligence all the most successful civilizations were born north of the equator
>>29527968
skills no abilities yes
IQ is congruent to "capacity to perform" but not to "real world performance"
>>29527116
>Most black people live in Africa
>Africa has poor education
>Thus most black people have lower IQ than average.
Holy crap you're stupid, are you black or something?
>>29527973
that doesn't really make much sense. if that were the case alaskan natives like the inuit and the tribes of people living in the middle eastern deserts would be the most intelligent groups of people on the planet, and that just straight up isn't the case
>>29527968
and yet niggers literally cannot run a modern city by themselves
>>29528022
the average african-american IQ is only slightly higher
IQ is not a accurate method to measure intelligence and it is very hard in general to even define intelligence.
Can I ask you a question though? How come whenever people bring up these statistics they always have some reactionary political goal in mind?
It is almost never:
>huh, look at that, I wonder what causes it and how can we eliminate it
Instead it is:
>huh, look at that, let's ship all niggers back to africa
>>29527880
You didn't BTFO anything, retard. You don't even know what subspecies means. There are different subspecies of dogs just like there different subspecies of humans. Border collies are on average smarter than chihuahuas..whites are on average smarter than niggers. Different sub-species. Sure, they can mate, but they are different breeds. Deal with it. Faggot liberal sissy.
>>29528070
I agree with you, but nobody in this thread has suggested anything of the sort.
This thread is literally just a discussion about it, as you wanted.
>>29527880
>albania is the dumbest country in europe
yea, that makes sense. every albanian i've ever met in my life (i live in an area with a lot of them) were complete fucking morons and all of them were scum bags.
>>29527116
Because IQ tests are made by whites and are culturally biased toward whites and Asians only score better than whites because you shitlord.
>SJW's actually believe this
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>>29528054
So you were trying to prove that IQ somehow dictates taxonomy? You failed. What are you trying to prove now? That averages exist? OK, but why should we care?
Your average NEET is most likely below average and can't run a modern city. Does this mean they're some separate sub-species?
>>29528106
>there are different subspecies of dogs
Hmmmm, I'm not sure but I don't think this is true.
If you want to call them different breeds that's fine, but I'd be really hesitant to call them sub-species.
Infact, I think you're the only one here who can't comprehend the meaning of the word.
Nice /pol/ propaganda, though.
>>29528143
pretty sure those 'high' iq stats from china are coming from only one or two regions on the coasts (shanghai and hong kong i think), the further inland you go the dumber they get
>bu-bu-but ONE race ;_;
>the human race ;_;
>>29527848
I think a lot of whites recognize Asians as generally intellectually superior. At least I do.
>>29528171
You're not very clever are you?
>>29527116
Maybe it's because this chart didn't have any sources supporting this.
>Tfw black with ivy league degree. Get fucked robots.
>>29528171
You are a terrible thinker. Your barely concealed emotions govern your thinking, and you are grasping at straws here.
>>29528216
>muh ivy league
What is affirmative action?
Princeton accepts blacks with a 70th percentile SAT score (or less).
>>29528216
You'd think your ivy league education would have taught you that N=1 is an insufficient sample size to prove anything. There are countless studies on racial differences in IQ, and they all show that blacks are the dumbest on average. Also, you got into the Ivy League because of affirmative action. Nigger.
SHUT UP
RACE IS SKIN-DEEP
HUMAN BRAINS ARE COMPLETELY EXEMPT FROM DIVERGENT EVOLUTION
OUR BRAINS HAVE STAYED EXACTLY THE SAME SINCE WE LEFT AFRICA
>>29528106
>lions have existed for roughly a million years
>humans have existed for only 200,000 years
GEE, I wonder why they're different species. It's not like time and lack of contact has anything to do with speciation.
>>29528156
>pigeons
>have been on Earth for several million years
>>29528215
/pol/ knows best, right? I'm going to leave and let you wallow in your ignorance, m8.
>>29528227
K.
>>29528258
Oqijweprijqwerpiqwer
>>29528258
Look, you can say whatever you want but blacks are not a separate sub-species. Get off /pol/, take a shower and go for a walk. The propaganda is messing with your mind.
>>29527393
You're on the right track, but not quite there. The cause of negroids' low intelligence was actually Africa's heat and fertility. They never had to evolve the intelligence required in Europe/Asia to find food and build durable shelter.
>>29528278
Good job completely circumventing my main point :)
>>29528235
You massive racist. You can't post that image! It's fucking racist as fuck! Delete it!!!
>>29528269
man that gif is solid gold.
10/10
>>29528316
You had no point
You just made a strawman look stupid by typing in all caps
>>29528255
Such trash. Please die.
Not that anon
their dicks are bigger
>>29528054
>and yet niggers literally cannot run a modern city by themselves
>says this as white people throughout centuries terrorized other countries for their land and recourses
lol
>>29528314
I never said that. Homo sapiens sapiens are a subspecies, so scientifically blacks can't be a subspecies. But that's just semantics. Regardless of if you call them a subspecies, race, breed, or whatever, they are genetically different.
>>29528346
It's not a strawman. To believe that the races are all mentally equal, you must believe that the human brain stopped evolving after humans dispersed from Africa.
>>29528269
>pigeons
>literally responding with nothing
>>29528365
Your picture was a strawman and your post was a strawman
I'm on your side, just letting you know your logic is shite
>everybody accepts that blacks have different physical abilities (dick size, athletic ability) and that's not racist but no one accepts they have lower iq because that's racist but the former is not
Wew lad
>>29528365
And yet, they're genetically the same.
Same species, can interbreed, what more do you want?
>>29528395
Because accepting your next assertion would allow individuals to treat blacks with even less respect that they are given currently.
>>29528354
Holy shit...I think i just came.
>>29528408
They are not the same. They are objectively different. Subspecies may not be a good word to use, but it is accurate whether you like it or not.
>>29528395
>People have redeeming qualities which may be different from others is the same thing as demeaning an ethnic group as a whole because of an questionnaire sheet
>>29528395
Everyone in this thread has accepted that blacks have a lower IQ on average. What we can't accept is this sufficing or warranting the claim that they're a separate species. 4chan might be retarded, but we're not that retardedsave for /pol/.
>>29528386
You're just repeating "strawman" without actually responding to anything I'm saying. Whatever m8.
>>29528408
>And yet, they're genetically the same.
Oh boy... Yeah, tell that to forensic anthropologists and geneticists. I'm sure you know better than them.
>Same species, can interbreed, what more do you want?
How is this even related to anything I said? I never said or implied that they were a separate species. I said they're genetically distinct.
>>29528440
No use in arguing. He just insulted someone that goes to an ivy league school simply because he was black.
>such trash. Please die
>>29528447
Isn't that what we have race for? Haha, do you mean they're a separate race? Is that what you're getting all hot and bothered about?
>>29528483
Literally nobody ITT has said the races are different species. That's a total strawman. OP said they're SUBspecies, analogous to dog breeds.
>>29528215
>Roughly 40,000 years ago
I thought humans separated from niggers like 70,000 yrs ago
>>29528557
But they can't even be a different SUBspecies, Bertha.
>>29528495
>Simply because he is black
No, he clearly pointed out that the black ivy leaguer doesn't understand how basic statistics work. The nig nog thought that his N=1 proved that blacks aren't legally retarded on average.
>>29528571
How stupid are you?
bl0x
>>29528436
>Because accepting your next assertion would allow individuals to treat blacks with even less respect
No it wouldn't. Does accepting that Asians have smaller dicks and are worth athletes than blacks make it ok to treat Asians with less respect? No it doesn't.
>>29528469
>demeaning an ethnic group as a whole
How does accepting blacks have lower IQs demean ethnic groups as a whole and make it no ok to accepte? Does accepting that Asians have smaller dicks than blacks demean Asians as a whole and therefore makes it unacceptable to acknowledge or accept that Asians have smaller dicks than other races? Everybody accepts that fact.
>acknowledging that Asians, whites, hispanics, etc, have smaller dicks and are worse athletes than blacks is perfectly acceptable
>acknowledging that blacks have lower IQs than asians, whites, hispanics, etc, not acceptable
Why is it only ok to accept differences among races when the differences that are being acknowledged show blacks as superior in that specific area?
It's all hypocritical. Next time someone makes a thread saying asians have small dicks, I at least hope you will be in there saying how unacceptable that is too say. At least be consistent.
>>29528557
And dog breeds aren't different subspecies either.
Again, the word you're all looking for is RACE.
Back to the drawing board or the containment board or whatever.
>>29528602
Less than you are
>>29528596
No, I was referring to the fact that he demeaned his achievement of getting into the ivy league because of "affirmative action", which is a really annoying argument.
He's such a fucking dumbass.
>>29528582
>>29528623
Semantics, semantics, semantics. You're acting like misusing one word somehow makes blacks genetically equal. The races may not technically be subspecies, but they're still analogous to subspecies in other animal species.
>>29528645
You are literally an idiot.
>I thought humans separated from niggers like 70,000 yrs ago
That was literally retarded.
>>29527848
White supremacists will say Asians aren't as creative and Jews are physically weaker, so white people are still the best.
Anyway, technology needs to be developed that increases IQ. White supremacists are afraid of this because they realize a wealthy black person could be smarter than them. But it's for the best.
>>29527605
>"A common way to decide is that organisms belonging to different subspecies of the same species are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed in nature due to geographic isolation, sexual selection, or other factors."
>>29528571
Correct. The common ancestor of west Eurasians and east Eurasians roughly separated 40000 years ago but the shared ancestors with proto-niggers separated earlier.
>>29528652
It's an objective fact that universities give preferential treatment to blacks and other minorities.
>>29528677
It really wasn't you fucking subhuman, bring up a valid argument against it you little turd.
>>29527116
As someone who grew up in a bad neighborhood, went to a public school, and now live in a (different) bad neighborhood, niggers are objectively inferior to human beings in every way. There are exceptions, I even have had black friends, but they are rare. Africa's a huge continent but we pretty much got their worst as slaves and slavery did not help matters.
I really can't imagine a more selfish, nasty, rude, crude, violent, and fucking stupid group of people than the American nigger. I hate them. I wish they aborted more of their children than they already do.
>>29528677
Scientists estimate humans left Africa ~50,000 years ago. If he's retarded for being 20,000 years off, you're half-retarded for being 10,000 years off.
>>29528703
I think he is just asshurt you used humans and niggers as if the latter weren't human.
>>29528022
IQ has literally nothing to do with education. As far as I am aware it is pattern recognition and ability to learn
>>29528681
>CRISPIR/cas9
>The Human Genome Project is in it's final stages
It's already here, m8.
CRISPIR/cas9
>>29528652
Uh. Are you denying that affirmative action exists? It's a known fact that prestigious schools will accept blacks with MUCH lower stats than white applicants. See >>29528235 for example. Why are you trying to hard to deny common knowledge?
>>29528700
I know, but his argument works under the assumption that said anon only got into the ivy league because he was black. Said anon could be an anecdote that had perfect SAT scores.
We don't know anything about the blackanon's stats. The attackeranon probably didn't even go to college anyway, so he has no right to devalue another person's educational achievement.
>>29528739
Ignore le last line, bois.
>>29528614
>How does accepting blacks have lower IQs demean ethnic groups as a whole and make it no ok to accepte?
>makes a thread Implying blacks are inferior for having low IQ
>"Why am I called racist :( : ( :( ????"
Yeah I'm sure you're smarter than Neil deGrasse Tyson, you faggot
>>29528022
Nutrition plays an important role as well, and indeed black Americans score higher than their african counterparts(even though on average black Americans have some European ancestry). But the huge difference remains even when checking for income levels.
>>29528681
honestly, if we can make niggers smarter with technology, I won't hate them anymore. If we can make all people roughly equal in intelligence, then I don't care who fucks who anymore. It's about building a better world, not about preserving bloodlines for some selfish survival obsession.
>>29528723
Yeah they're "human", just like the 400 pound Delores Smith who breaks her ankle when she stands up in her trailer, after months of sitting and watching TV, and has an IQ of 75, is a "human".
Just because someone is anatomically Homo sapiens doesn't mean they're the same as me, or even the same as you.
these terms have all very well defined meanings, and the races of humanity are races, not "breeds". there is not a significant genetic difference between the human races like there is for breeds of dogs. they're not really comparable. a lot more goes into biology than just saying, "hurr, these people look different so they are not same as me". we verify our classifications with quantitative tests.
>>29527393
This anon is right. It is not right or moral to hate anyone just because of their race, but that doesn't mean we're all completely equal and that hundred thousand years of evolution meant nothing.
He is wrong about the causes of the below average black intelligence. It is not due to malnourishment, but rather due (primarily) to the lack of winters which meant there were no need to develop intelligence matching Eurasian peoples.
>>29528703
Ok idiot. You think that black people aren't human. I also didn't even give an argument.
>subhuman
Let's not get into that argument retard.
>>29528719
That's not why I was attacking the retard.
>>29528723
Exactly. It was a needless insult.
>>29528745
No I'm not. See>>29528754
>>29528793
Sure but they are still "humans" as in they are of the same species as us. I do not consider them of the same subspecies(aka race) as us though.
>>29528745
Affirmative action wouldn't exist if white people didn't treated blacks like shit and reject them from schools, Anon-San.
>>29528795
>there is not a significant genetic difference between the human races
That's why they have totally different skull shapes, skin colors, hair patterns, and brains, right
LOL
>>29528681
>wealthy black person could be smarter than them
how?
>>29528754
Why would you assume something is an exception to the rule? The logical assumption is that the ivy league nig is like MOST blacks who get a boost by affirmative action despite their lower than average grades for that institution. It's called Occam's Razor. L2logic, libcuck
>>29528542
You're the one that's bothered by the word "subspecies". You've used nothing but rhetoric and name calling to defend yourself against facts and evidence
>>29528772
I didn't make this thread.
And again, if acknowledging that blacks have lower IQs on average than every other race means they're inferior and is racist to acknowledge, then why is acknowledging that asians have smaller penis size and are worse athletes on average than every other race not racist to say?
Why is it only racist to to acknowledge differences in races when it shows blacks as below? Why do people only get butthurt when you acknowledge areas where blacks are below other races, but no one cares when you acknowledge areas where blacks are above other races or you acknowledge areas where any race is below any other race as long as the race that is below isn't black?
>>29528840
>technology that increases IQ
>>29528798
if winter is what makes you smart then why were native Alaskan's still primitive when discovered?
>>29528838
Colleges accept applicants based on their qualifications. Blacks are on average less qualified than whites. That's just an objective fact. There's no mean old white men throwing away all the genius blacks' applications. Do you seriously think the officials at UNIVERSITIES are right-wing racists?
>didn't treated
:)
>>29528857
Because blacks are a protected class.
>>29528795
The only difference between a 'breed' and a 'race' is that breeds are created through selective breeding
>>29528843
>>29528843
We don't know that though. Unless the ivyleagueanon gives us his scores, we can't just devalue him because of the existence of affirmative action.
>>29528820
>It was a needless insult.
Kinda like "CUMSKINS" right? No of course not, because only whites can be racist. Almost forgot to check my privilege
>>29528795
>there is not a significant genetic difference between the human races like there is for breeds of dogs.
but there is though, humans are easily separate in 6 big races with no significant overlapping and this is due to the very natural geographic separation that existed between those for many thousands of years coupled with the different environments these groups lived in
moreover, people ignore the fact that a certain level of admixture with archaic hominids occurred basically everywhere i.e eurasians with neanderthals, east eurasians with denisovans, africans apparently with some archaic hominids as well
>>29528904
And you're a teenager. Who has no place in "intellectual", (as if) debates.
>>29528904
>In United States federal anti-discrimination law, a protected class is a characteristic of a person which cannot be targeted for discrimination.
How is acknowledging differences among races discrimination?
it would be discrimination to say that blacks have lower IQ on average than other races, therefore I won't accept this black student into my university. But simply accepting the fact that black people have lower IQs on average is not discriminating anyone, it's simply a fact.
I really hope I'm not responding to bait.
>>29528959
Damn dude, you sound so mature.
>>29528932
>CUMSKINS
I don't call white people that and that word doesn't even bother whites.
That one little word doesn't overshadow the perpetual and annoying devaluation of a black person.
>>29527816
jews control the entire media and banking system despite being less than 2% of the population
comparing to that to some epic meme about irishmen is retarded
>>29527116
IQ is primarily a function of socio-economic status. When combined with the concentration of poverty that blacks live in (you don't typically see whole neighborhoods of impoverished whites) and it's pretty easy to understand. Just look at the lead poisoning issue in Flint, or Chicago. We know that lead poisoning directly relates to things like lower IQ and increased aggression.
>>29528070
So when a retard scores 40 and a genius scores 160, do you discount the difference then? Or do you only discount the difference when it may indicate interracial differences?
>>29528979
I'm not. I'm only 18. That still doesn't change the fact that your comment was retarded.
>>29528795
> there is not a significant genetic difference between the human races like there is for breeds of dogs
Pretty sure the current agreed on valuesare 0.1% variance in humans and 0.2% variance in dogs. I'd say that's similar
>>29528857
>then why is acknowledging that asians have smaller penis size and are worse athletes on average than every other race not racist to say?
But it IS racist to say they have smaller penises . Plus, Asians are great a martial arts . That too can be a sport.
Plus, actually do research on Black scholars, scientists, business men, doctors, and professors. They were capable to be just as smart and qualified to be the brightest and best at what they do, just like whites. So no, having lower intelligence isn't genetic like having small dicks.
>>29529001
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WRONG
Twin studies have determined intelligence is significantly inherited and only partially environmental
>>29528993
>lol whitey gon shoot up da school
>u dance like a whitey lmao
it's not about "overshadowing" either. It's about hypocrisy, if you are >>29527605
>>29529001
>IQ is primarily a function of socio-economic status.
Nope. IQ is independent of education or your parents education, it's your innate ability to learn patters and link seemingly unrelated facts
>>29529051
>Black scholars, scientists, business men, doctors, and professors.
an absolute drop in the ocean compared to europeans and asians
moreover, often these people are mixed with Europeans, as the average african american isn't a pure african
furthermore, IQ matters not just on the individual level but also at the group level i.e having few intellectual blacks among a population that is vastly very dumb isn't going to change things a lot
>>29529051
Do you know what an average is?
Just because there are exceptions doesn't mean a point is invalid
>>29529069
>Two studies
>Against hundreds of others
Hmmmm
>>29529051
>still doesn't understand the concept of averages
>>29528930
But it's a safe assumption. Your argument is the same as people who stereotype Muslims as terrorists. It's as if the ivy leaguer said he's a Muslim, and the guy called him out as being peaceful (like 99% of Muslims are..just as the vast majority of nigs get into the ivies due to affirmative action)..but you're here playing Devils advocate saying "No. HE COULD BE A TERRORIST" (even though less than 1% of Muslims are...just like a very tiny %age of blacks can get into ivy league WITHOUT affirmative action)...you are playing Devils advocate for a highly improbable scenario, and now you're saying basically the equivalent of "We can't rule out the Muslim being a terrorist unless we see his background check"...the safe assumption is to say that he is not a terrorist, just like the safe assumption is to say that the nig got in by affirmative action. It is a massive long shot for a nigger to beat out the droves of perfect sat scoring Asians and whites.
And now you, my friend, have been absolately BTFO.
>>29529095
Then why have IQ tests gotten progressively more difficult with each generation?
>>29529000
>George Lucas
>Gay
Wait what?
>>29529000
Well that's because they have a higher average IQ, subhuman goy.
>>29529070
Why does that offend you. That insult can even be applied to nonwhites. Imagine having most black people you meet call you a whiteboi or an oreo.
I can without a doubt say the most white people on this site are not offended by the word "CUMSKIN"
![race_intelligence_adoption_rushtonsm1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2vPbcti.jpg "race_intelligence_adoption_rushtonsm1[1].jpg")
>>29529051
>But it IS racist to say they have smaller penises
True, I guess what I meant to say was socially acceptable. It's completely socially acceptable to say that asians, whites, hispanics have smaller penises and are worse athletes than blacks. So why is racism against any race other than blacks socially acceptable?
>So no, having lower intelligence isn't genetic like having small dicks.
It's more biological than you think. Also how does genetics make racism against one race socially acceptable? If you want to argue IQ is determined by socio-economic factors, than just like genetics, they are factors outside of the control of the person it affects, so how does it change how acceptable it is?
>>29527577
wow nice argument
>>29529120
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>>29529070
Thanks for the (You). He's not me, btw.
>>29529178
it's not about me being personally offended (I'm not), it's about it existing, plain and simple. I've heard enough of your weak rhetoric
>>29529001
Rich niggers get lower SAT than poor whites
>>29529173
No it's because of jewish cronyism. If all whites willed it we could easily holocaust all the jews just like hitler did
>>29529160
It says "goy" (hebrew for non-jew), lol
>>29529123
>>29529118
>>29529108
Holy fuck, I KNOW ABOUT THE AVERAGE DUMBASS
MY POINT WAS THAT ALMOST ANYBODY IS ALMOST CAPABLE OF ACHIEVING HIGHER INTELLIGENCE
Yeah let's ignore intelligent blacks and call all black inferior because of low IQ.
>>29528879
I dont know, perhaps the environment prevented them from developing advanced social organization (civilization) ?
Perhaps they're actually rather smart fellows?
>>29529195
The Stormfront talking point "anti-racist is codeword for anti-white" is true. "Anti-racists" just use "anti-racism" as a tactic against whites. They don't really care about racism by non-whites, like how Arabs still literally enslave blacks.
>>29529239
original tbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>29528904
Unlike poor whites with thick dialects, who are treated with open contempt by richer white people. Nobody cares about poor white southerners, even though they were nearly as thoroughly fucked over by slavery as the blacks.
>>29529229
Ok faggot.
bl0x
Just lurking here really but I thought this might help fuel someone's argument.
Or just piss someone off. Whatever the case you guys are distracting me from certain obligations so its cool.
>>29529258
>I KNOW ABOUT THE AVERAGE DUMBASS
>Yeah let's ignore intelligent blacks and call all black inferior because of low IQ.
Clearly you don't know about the average. The average is not about "ignoring" or focusing on anything. It's a number and numbers don't pick sides, they are just there and they can be interpreted to reach conclusions, which you're doing a very poor job of doing
>>29529258
>MY POINT WAS THAT ALMOST ANYBODY IS ALMOST CAPABLE OF ACHIEVING HIGHER INTELLIGENCE
Well it's a stupid point. We are talking about average IQ here.
Hard work can overcome nearly all genetic inferiorities, but lets not delude ourselves into believing they don't exist
>>29529301
It's fundamentally correct although it's pretty much semantics here.
Before modern genetics came into play, we could only look at very little things like skin color, eye color, etc... and the most dedicated ones maybe get into skull shapes and so on. These things combined do correlate well with separate groups of people, but it's not as good as what we can do nowadays using multivariate analysis on the full DNA of people coming from various groups, which blows the fuck out of simplistic conclusions like Lewontin's fallacy i.e that bigger variation exists among classical races than between different races.
Okay, assuming that IQ is a legitimate way of measuring intelligence (debatable, but let's just roll with this.) Then I suppose the question is whether or not the average lower IQs of blacks are due to nature or nurture, from what I understand there's been a lot of speculation this, but nothing close to a consensus. I think either are possibilities, honestly.
My issue is that I don't think theres anything to do with the information if it is genetic, or really if it's environmental. What's your point @op?
I mean women have higher IQs on average than men, and that's based on comparable upbringings with men historically being a little more advantaged, so explain that.
>>29529435
>women have higher IQs on average than men
lol no, with modern tests the average is set equal to both but with higher variation among men
with older tests without the PC bullshit women scored slightly lower
>>29529435
historically more advantaged? you mean like dying in a mine shaft?
>>29528039
There is probably a drop-off point where the environment becomes so harsh that physical hardiness trumps intelligence in terms of who survives.
>>29529095
relate my dick to your anus then
>>29529369
>>29529346
>let's ignore that many blacks fail or can't get into school because schools are shutting down or have low income due to its environment while most whites don't have that problem
Also, Ive kept saying capability. Getting a high IQ can be achieved
>>29529535
I can't, my IQ is too low for such an endeavour
![main-qimg-9f41f08678568273904dae61117194f0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KdiaXhm.jpg "main-qimg-9f41f08678568273904dae61117194f0[1].jpg")
>>29529435
>nature or nurture
Both
>>29529280
>>29529239
As socio-economic goes up, the average IQ of all races go up, however the gaps between races still remain.
Women have higher IQs on average, but stupid men have higher IQs than stupid women, and smart men have higher IQs than smart women. I would guess women have higher IQs on average since they are more likely to graduate high school and more likely to go to college and both nature and nurture play a role. But among men and women who both don't graduate high school or don't go to college (the lower side) or who both graduate college and high school (the higher side) nature shines through and shows men having higher IQs. It's just women, on average, graduate high school and go to college more than men.
Mexicans are the master race putos, we cuck you to death now putos
>>29529069
the latest one says 20-40%
the last number was 40-50%
the gene correlated with intelligence, FNBP1L, is present in both white and black populations
>>29529195
childrens success is correlated more strongly to peer group than parents
>>29529095
english, mathematics, pattern recognition, are by no means independent of education. for example my tens of thousands of hours sunk into my crippling MMO/RPG addiction has left me with plenty of outlets to practice simple brute-force mathematics, learn collegiate level vocabulary, and master spatial cognition.
>>29529452
I looked this up to be sure, and I'm definitely getting that women tend to have slightly higher IQs than men. Except in Australia apparently, their women are dumb as hell.
>>29529489
I mean access to education from an early age up into adulthood dipshit. Also, a man having the ability to choose to work in a mineshaft is a freedom whether he dies or not. So, again, an advantage
ITT:
>Neets talking about iq to feel better about themselves
>>29527605
From this graph, the probability of a blacks with a higher IQ is very slim.
>>29529637
iirc women have a slightly higher mean average IQ than men, but their bell curve is more narrow, meaning that at e.g. +2 stddev (~130) there's substantially more men than women. This also confirms the fact that STEM degrees have a small amount of women while there's plenty of them in non-demanding fields such as liberal arts.
>>29529664
>add one guy trying to be clever
>>29527968
IQ has an enormous impact on lifestyle, achievement, and behavior. Low IQ correlates to poverty, crime, and broken homes . High IQ correlates to education, wealth, human accomplishment, stable homes.
>>29529600
>the latest one says 20-40%
>the last number was 40-50%
Again, source.
>the gene correlated with intelligence, FNBP1L, is present in both white and black populations
Intelligence is influenced by more than one gene, they've only found one.
>>29527116
Science or not, you'd have to be a complete moron to believe that blacks have one standard deviation of lower IQ than whites.
>>29529780
>reality is moronic
>>>/tumblr/
>>29528857
Because of black privilege.
>>29527116
Go to the ghettos of ANY country, and give them an I.Q test. ANY.
>>29529847
Have you thought that the correlation is opposite and that ghettos arise out of low IQ people? Have you wondered why you do not find any or very little USA-tier ghettos in Europe, and the ones you find(like in France) are mostly formed by low IQ inbred arab mongrels?
>>29528857
It's because intelligence is what many people base their idea of human dignity on. People argue that women being just as intelligent as men is why they deserve "equal treatment," not women being better multitaskers or w/e.
>>29529928
>inbred mongrel
isn't that an oxymoron?
>>29528216
SCOTUS just upheld Affirmative action policy...Blacks will continue to be admitted to college/universities with lower scores.
>>29529981
That's good then. I'll try to get into MIT when I'm done with my undergrad.
>>29529976
Inbreeding as a social practice, your modern MENA inhabitant, except for few ones like the Lebanese and Syrians, is fairly heavily mongrelized with sub saharan Africans due to the Islamic slave trade.
Inbreeding in particular is very well correlated with low IQs.
>>29529928
show me that there are more ghettos in the united states than anywhere else.
>>29530078
There's no such thing as Detroit suburbs anywhere in Europe, to name one. Philly as well.
I don't have to show you a negative, I'm not aware of situations like the ones you can have in the south of the US in Europe. If I'm mistaken, please enlighten me on these supposed Detroit tier ghettos in Europe.
>>29530111
1 large ghetto vs 10 small ghettos.
hmm, how does area work again
>>29530158
>measuring the shittiness of ghettos in area size
top kek
anyway, do you think Europe has more of these small ghettos?
Fuck off back to /pol/ you uneducted piece of shit
>>29530189
I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm not going to say europe, or other place like south and central america, are devoid of ghettos.
>shittiness of ghettos in area size
No dude. Assume every ghettos is just as shitty. 1 metropolis ghetto is just as bad as 10 individual ghettos. Not that this is an important argument or whatever
>>29530243
I think you'll find /pol/ is quite educated despite their edgy remarks
>>29530273
>/pol/
>educated
Let me have a good laugh LOL
>thinking IQ means anything
>>29530273
>educated
Indoctrinated would be a better choice of words, all things considered. Pic related.
>>29530316
>>29530283
I'm talking about the ones that aren't ironic neo-nazis
>Asians statistically have higher IQ than Europeans
>no one cares
>Jews statistically have higher IQ than Europeans
>no one cares
>Europeans statistically have higher IQ than Africans
>butthurt arguing that reaches bump limit
>>29530273
/pol/ is for the very most totally shit nowadays, especially after joot put IDs and flags
there's only a handful of people who know some shit, the rest are shitposters
>>29530344
Becuase of the fact that "Europeans" always make these threads, day after day for no apparent reason. We get it Europeans on average have a higher iq than blacks.
because we are all adapted well to our environments, the southern part of africa is bountiful with regards to food and water so human ancestors had little need to develop agriculture or be challenged in any way
>Tee hee I bet you jack off to asian girls take that stormfag :P
>I'm not like that so averages don't matter!
Threads like these just prove that all blackbots have an inner SJW/Redditor in them even though they claim to hate that behavior in black women.
>>29530348
Isnt that kind of true of the world in general? 80-20 rule and what have you.
>>29530289
IQ means IQ, it's an objective and well defined measurement. Are you going to argue that grams and meters don't mean anything either?
>>29527966
>The real mistake is in thinking that more intelligent people are somehow superior individuals or deserve more control and power
You base this entirely off the fact that many(an imprecise term) people are more and less intelligent than you? The fact that you are average has nothing to do with whether or not others are superior or more deserving of control and power. It comes off as quite silly and solipsistic of you to even suggest such a thing.
>>29530344
>Jews statistically have higher IQ than Europeans
>no one cares
I do care about this (and agree with your premise and conclusion). But rather than simply harp on it, I'm drawn towards deconstructing it. Stated differently, how and why does it occur to people to foam at the mouth whenever something kind is said about Europeans at the expense of darker skinned peoples?
It's also interesting to note how Jews (even Askenazim) are thought of as being separate from Europeans even though they habitually present themselves as European whenever it is convenient for them to do so.
Mind you, I'm not /pol/ and I'm not even an antisemite. I just think it explains a lot as to why there is so much "butthurt arguing" when it's pointed out that Europeans statistically have higher IQ than Africans: people are ALLOWED to bitch when it's Europeans as the target of their outrage as opposed to an "oppressed" minority. In short, it fits into the narrative of the Jewish controlled media.
>>29530344
That's because the blacks swarm, or have you not seen the stores being raided on the news before, or what, when one of them dies they''''''''wrongly'''''''' they swarm then too. You might not see it but I do. They're like locusts.
>>29530344
Its the euros. Every.Fucking.Day.
They have such a God complex that they have to pick on anyone in a worse position than themselves to get their fix.
>>29528364
>when white people finished colonising and leaving railroads and electric lines they were left to be destroyed and scrapped.
now that they can't call chinese raicist for their past they have decided to try handling africa, here is a managers lecture on events.
https://i.yuki.la/pol/1458627468400.webm
>>29530450
You know better than that, human intelligence is a much more complex than distance or weight. In fact even a philosophical debate about what constitutes intelligence might very much be necessary. For example you're better off statistically being in the "bright normal" iq range than you are having a genius or higher IQ. At least in terms of monetary success, and mental well being. So, in a way, being extremely intelligent can be a negative rather than a positive. I myself am in this "bright normal range", so I recognise the bias here, but I do think I have evidence for my claim.
>>29530025
>Iberia
Damn.
>>29530375
Oh you're tired of these threads? well I'm tired of "superior bbc" shitposts.
>>29528269
those aren't pidgeons. they're parrots. specifically african grey parrots. left is the tinmeh sub-species and right is the congo sub-species.
>>29530344
Because of the non sequitur that follows.
>>29530450
lol
Comentario original
>>29527577
That's very intolerant of you.
>>29527116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#References
>>29530794
So you take it out on the blacks for something the Jews are doing?
No wonder whites are cuckslaves for the Jewish master race.
>>29527393
>Jews
>average IQ 113
>>29530283
Probably more educated than r9k desu
>>29533220
Funny thing is Jews get btfo when they push white people hard enough
>>29527393
>mfw im Somalian and have a decent IQ.
My grandpa was in the government though so i doubt i have too much malnourishment in my gene pool. I feel like your IQ is dependent on how you are brought up, and American Negros are raised on ghetto shit and turn out stupid as shit
>>29527116
Black culture. Because black culture cares very little about education.
>>29527605
>it's sill to compare dog breeds to humans since dog breed aren't different species they're just arbitrary classifications
it's actually a good comparison. because human races arent separate species either...
>>29527605
>You realize this chart is showcasing AVERAGE IQ, right?
actually it's showcasing distributions for each race's IQ you fucking stupid nigger
Blacks dont have neanderthal genes, thats why they are stupid. Neanderthals actually had bigger brain size than current humans. Natural selection was much harder in ice age europe where you had to use brains to survive long winters.
Theres plenty of food and warmth in africa so it was all about multiplying and killing rival tribes for living space. That explains aggressive nigger behaviour.
More north you go, more neanderthal genes people have. Thats why white people are more intelligent and creative.
