I really wanna buy a Macbook Pro once the new 2016 upgraded one comes out (most probably next month) and I've the money to buy it (half of which I won at online betting).
But today, talking about it with my uncle, he said "[anon], these are whims, it costs too much. You can pratically do the same with any other computer".
At this point I am really down. I am CRAVING about buying it. I wanna try Apple products for the 1st time.
What should I do? Buy it or not?
If I'd buy it, I'll feel guilty about all the money and about what my relatives think but I really want it.
I know these are not 1st-world problems and I know you probably will say "get outta here, normalfag" or something like that, but I'm just asking for an advice.
Also, I'm 22 and I'm supposed not to be influenced and "commanded" by others anymore.
Did any of you had similar situations?
Why would u buy the latest and greatest much less an apple computer. Uve never even experienced osx you could hate it
yeah you're retarded, my budget laptop that cost a quarter of the price is just as good, except that one has a bit more RAM than mine but I never even hit 50% usage on mine so whatever
Macbook pro was my first computer. Got my last one in 2011.
For starters, which one are you buying? They vary greatly in cost and specs.
The only reason I use mac is its what my dad buys, as he has always hated windows. I personally prefer the OS, but in general I suck with computers.
Bear in mind you can't easily switch stuff out of a mac, the computers aren't really designed for it and apple will void any warranty you have.
But if you don't intend to customize it then that doesn't matter.
At the end of thr day, its your money. Buy what you want, fuck your family.
>buying a mac
Don't be retarded. Why the fuck do you "crave" owning a mac? It's just a fucking shitty computer. Don't tell me you've developed brand loyalty without ever having actually owned one.
You're old enough to make your own decisions, but that doesn't stop you from being smart about them.
>not buying a refurb mac
>buying a mac at all
>online betting
you sound like a grade a retard anon
>>28863950
Why? How was OSX? Better?
>>28863952
>>28864025
It's about the premium quality of the materials with which it's manufactured (see the average yrs the users have it before buying another and compare it with a non-Apple notebook).
Also, I wanna experience the Mac OS.
>>28864039
Refurbished mac? Will I find one which is actually good?
>online betting
Yeah, betting on REAL sport events online, not virtual events. So...
do not buy a mac laptop. they are extremely overpriced and not worth the money. there is nothing special about them, it's just marketing bullshit, you can get a regular windows pc with better hardware for half the price of a typical macbook pro.
what do you wanna do on a mac that you cannot do on any other computer?
>>28864072
could be because they treat it better because it's an oh so special macbook that cost an arm and a leg, I mentioned that laptop I had but I have an old one that still works that's comparable to the macbooks from the year it was bought. The price of both my laptops couldn't cover one macbook pro.
Since you don't have the money anyway this entire thread is moot.
which laptop should i buy to take on a sub or boat?
mainly for playing games and watching movies, might buy a hard drive
Mac fanboys are faggots but the haters are faggots too. The haters hate for muh sekret club reasons. I had a dirt cheap laptop which I used for 6 years. When it finally died, I bought a macbook pro. Have had the mbp for 3 years. It's a fantastic laptop. Paying a little more isn't a big deal if you're going to use the laptop for a long time.
>>28864072
>Apple
>Quality of materials
Am I posting in a troll thread?
i dont know why people like osx, i can't fucking stand it
>>28864192
I was just reading a couple of opinions.
https://www.quora.com/Is-a-MacBook-really-worth-the-money-Why-or-why-not
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacSucks/comments/28docp/25_year_former_mac_user_says_apple_sucks_and_why/Yeah, I know. Leddit..[/spoilter]
>>28864072
>Refurbished mac? Will I find one which is actually good?
It will still be a mac, so no.
But it will be cheaper.
I'd get an air over a pro because the difference in specs in negligible and the battery life is goat
>>28864300
But the monitor is a lot different!
Anyway, maybe I'm gonna go for that.
Now that there'll be the imminent release of the new versions, it comes with some discount too.
What do you wanna do on it, OP?
I've heard Macs are great for editing and stuff like that.
If it's just to browse the internet, check emails, etc. they're also pretty nice but kind of expensive for such basics functions.
If you're planning to play videogames though, forget about it. Windows has a monopoly on games, so you might as well get a PC.
I'd get one if I had the money. I dont play PC games and I think OSX is pretty nice (OSX is the Mac's operating system in case you dont know). The only thing keeping me from getting one is the steep price.
>>28864298
This first article is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read.
There is encryption on the Mac that not even the best super computers which the millitary use would have any hope in cracking for atleast 5-10 thousand years literally.
>You can turn on encryption and currently it will be able to protect your data with XTS-AES 128 encryption, which is by far the safest you'll ever need.
Any computer can do this
That's why the S in AES stands for standard
>>28863911
I've always been using apple products and I really like it. Good trackpads, OS looks nice, works good with all my programming stuff for university. I'd go for it if you have the money.
>>28864386
>>28864420
>>28864415
I'm not into graphics nor videogames.
Just wanna try an Apple notebook.
So, maybe, the Air would be fine, right?
Install an operating system that respects your freedom
get a ipad if you just want to browse the internet/ email.
if you do get a mouse that has two buttons because macs don['t come with right click. you would have to have your hand on the keyboard for right click.
>>28864450
I'm currently using the 2013 Macbook Air and it's still as fast as when I bought it. You're just going to use it for shitposting on /r9k/ or do you also do stuff for uni on it?
>>28864450
If you're only goal is to try an Apple notebook, just buy one
preferably the cheapest one
>>28864467
2 fingers on trackpad, then click. Right click is alright, I even play videogames without mouse.
>>28864450
Yes, the Air is pretty thin and light. Super portable.
If you got the money, I say go for it.. You really have nothing to lose since you dont play vidya anyways.
>>28864458
So Linux?
If OSX doesnt respect your freedums, Windows will respect it even less.
Or you could buy a basic laptop for like 200 and a gnarly desktop for the same price
>>28864559
Except that OP will always have that "what if" feeling if he does that.
I got my Macbook Pro in 2011, when I was in10thgrade. It was my first computer, and still is. I am typing this from that same Macbook five years later. While I've gone through one hard drive failure and just recently being told that I need to replace my battery, it's otherwise been a delight to use. However, as the years go on and the more I want to play games on a PC, the more I'm considering just saving up for a nice high-end desktop. While the Macbook has been great for convenience's sake and much less clunky than an average notebook, I just don't get that grand computer experience out of it. But for everything else it's like a dream. My whole university career has been on this laptop.
But, I was young when I got it. My parents paid for it. I couldn't ever imagine spending my own money on something so needlessly expensive. If it's coming out of your own pocket, buy a PC. You can get a pretty nice one for the same price.
>>28864574
yeah. I also thought of making an Hackintosh but it's not the same thing.
>>28864495
>>28864467
You can set the bottom right corner of the trackpad to act as a right click
>>28864636
Ha. Nah, it's not.
Don't buy a mac unless you want to be an iPhone developer. You can always buy a better machine for less.
op just get a desktop, had mine for 10+ years and it runs fine, can watch all my animus and play my vns. bit dated for gaming but i never play much.
You are not craving anything. Stop letting marketers control your vernacular.
You are curious, and because the general consumption cycle does not typically involve "find a person with one and ask to borrow/test it out, or ask to test drive one in-store, or rent one for a week to see if you actually like it," then you fail to see the other options, primarily because you are an idiot.
You can do MORE with that money in buying a Thinkpad P50 (with actually decent specs) than you can with anything else.
i love my mac products. i will defend them. now op, an important thing to consider is, do you have an iphone? if so, then i would stay in the apple family and get other apple devices. lets face it, the OS apps are head and shoulders above android apps. i have a macbook pro, and i do like it. is it overpriced? yes. but still. i use it every single day, ive never had an issue with it, never have to worry about viruses, and it syncs easily with my ipad and iphone and makes me feel like a badass. oh, and when women see your apple products they get fucking wetter than niagra falls. if youre siting at starbucks with some shitty dell laptop, dont expect some hot girl to notice your existence. just sayin.
You know something funny? The thermal paste that Apple puts into the system is actually only rated for 3 years. It degrades during that time, and is said to be almost useless by the 3 year mark.
You know what they replace it with when you go into the shop?
The same 3 year thermal paste. It is the only Apple-approved thermal paste, and it sucks. There is no logic behind it, and there is no reason for it to be that way. The paste itself sucks in the first place, on top of the fact that it only works for a short time.
People wonder why their Macbooks run so hot.
>>28864811
>tfw putting macbook in freezer
Is it possible to do new paste yourself? I have a 2011.
>>28864811
>>28864748
You are making me change my mind.
>>28864757
"I never have to worry about viruses."
Some of the most popular Pwn2Own competitions are won (as in "had the best and most devastating exploit) by those exploiting OS X and IOS devices. They are, bar-none, the least secure devices available, and they are devastatingly bad at default security.
The only reason why you would not "worry" about viruses is because someone (Apple) paid a very large sum of money (about $1 billion) on pushing that image to you.
Do your research. Since about 2008, OS X devices have been subject to regular netsec publications.
>>28864733
What are your favorite vn's?
>mfw fags crave apple as hard as they crave cock
>>28864870
really, i find that hard to beleive because i doenload torrents every single night non stop on my macbook pro and have no virus protection software. never have had an issue. doing the same thing with my sisters pc laptop, i get trojan horses and viruses galore
>>28864870
Is there anything I should be doing to protect osx from viruses? Other than common sense.
>>28864733
>XP
>in 2016
Wew lad, what are you doing?
one thousand dollar facebook machine
>>28864917
Because malware devs would rather target the majority of the population (Windows, ~90% OS share) than Macs (~9-10% OS share). Not because it's inherently more secure.
It's more like a "security through obscurity" kind of thing.
>>28864848
Absolutely. Get any thermal paste and apply a conservative amount. Use iFixit.com for the guides on disassembly.
>>28864859
I should not have put a product name in there, but the P50 is actually a hellbeast of a machine in the same price range, so that is why I put it out there. To be perfectly honest with you, modern "performance" (the snappy feeling in computing) is a matter of buying a laptop with a decent screen (older thinkpads often have a 1920x1080 IPS option), decent processor (real-world performance has luckily not changed much in the past 5 years), and then a great amount of memory (16GB of DDR3 is about $50 these days) and a good SSD (240GB MLC drives are around $100).
I have never had someone upset with me when I have refurbished an older (2nd generation i7, usually) enterprise-level laptop and upgraded the RAM and HDD to what I mentioned above.
>>28864921
The modern popular entrypoint is the browser. Disable vulnerable plugins (java) and use an adblocker to avoid drive-by installations. From there, enable the goddamned firewall. Unless that was recently fixed, it is off by default.
>>28864917
Most viruses, like STDs, show little to no sign of infection. You are clearly downloading different torrents. Go ahead and try downloading a bunch of cracked software for OS X onto that Macbook.
>>28864748
>recommending an enterprise workstation for shitposting and watching porn
Get an X1 or something.
>>28865025
An enterprise workstation from 2012-2014 is only around $300-$400 and has better specs when upgraded than most modern budget-end laptops of the same price.
>>28864133
please provide me with a response
>>28863911
>not getting a laptop with linux preinstalled (dell, system76 or sg else)
>being this retarded
kill yourself
>>28864992
Now I'm worried I have viruses :0
>>28865047
What's the point if your just doing basic shit?
You might as well get an ultra book with decent battery life.
I bought a 2015 Macbook pro 15 inch with highest specs recently. I'll give you my review (I normally use windows).
No fucking equivalent for MS paint. This makes it harder to make comics or edit images on a mac. I looked around the app store for an equivalent but all of them leave a fucking watermark on the image you export. Fucking retarded.
File navigation is harder. There's no "go up one folder" button when you're browsing for files. You have to hit command up-arrow-key, which is okay but if you're using one hand with the mouse it's a fucking pain in the ass. Also there's no button to press to show the desktop. You have to use two hands to press command+f11, which again is annoying if you're trying to do everything with a mouse (if you're lazy like me).
Resizing windows is a pain in the ass. If you hit the green button it goes fullscreen and hides everything else. You have to hit option+green button to fill up the screen while still showing the taskbar. Sometimes I accidentally move the window a few pixels to the side and try to make it go back with the maximize button because I'm ocd. It doesn't fucking move back if it's offset by a few pixels. Jesus Christ what happened to beautiful design that Apple is supposed to be known for?
The "taskbar" is objectively uglier than the one in windows. Things are all over the place and if you have a lot of things open it's a mess. It really is designed for people who don't want complications when using a computer. If you're tech savvy then there will be a lot of pain.
Pros: 9 hour battery life which makes me happy with my purchase, believe it or not. The trackpad is also probably the best one I've ever used. It's very smooth and feels natural. I bought a magic mouse too but the trackpad is actually better. Also it looks cooler. You can decorate the glowing apple in the back which makes it fashionable. Also when I hang out at coffee shops I feel cooler with a Mac.
>>28864133
You will need to do your research on what you enjoy (in regard to dimensions, usually).
A new development in the process of getting a good laptop is realizing that well-built machines do not look like toys.
I really do recommend the second-series (*520, *420) of Thinkpads. Overall the most useful machines I have ever encountered. The HP EliteBook series and the Dell Precisions/Latitudes of the time are pretty decent, but I still think that the thinkpads of that range are superior.
All Thinkpads (most enterprise laptops) have spill-proof keyboards. Yes, you should buy an SSD to upgrade to.
>>28865190
"Basic shit" in 3 years will take more RAM, and as I just said, buying a used/refurbished thinkpad is the same cost AFTER UPGRADE as buying a modern laptop with a trash-tier CPU, abysmal amounts of RAM (4GB is useable, but not at all future-ready), and a 5400RPM hard drive.
In regard to all laptops, a newer-than-what-they-gave-you 9-cell battery is typically part of the upgrade process.
>>28865369
>Trackpad
Find a laptop with a trackpoint on it. I promise it is fucking amazing to use a laptop with.
Feeling cooler because you are giving in to peer pressure is not actually being cooler, and your feelings are founded in naivety.
>Lenovo Ideapad
>i3 6100u (benchmark 3,517)
>Intel HD 520 gpu (benchmark 777)
>15 inch screen
>$250
>Crapbook Pro
>i5-3210M (benchmark 3,791)
>Intel HD 4000 gpu (benchmark 451)
>13 inch screen
>$1,000+
Why is this allowed?
>>28865479
status symbol
>>28865504
The funniest part is that, to everyone informed, the only "status" they get out of it is "idiot who wasted their money."
Are you Fucking kidding me. Just buy it if you want it. Fuck you you Fucking weak willed faggot troll.
>>28865479
but it's shiny! And shiny things are shiny!
>>28863911
A Macbook is bought by your employee and given to you of course. Why would anyone spend that kind of money on a mediocre computer themselves?
>>28865806
Stop letting your employers make shitty decisions.
I didnt buy into apple meme until I got macbook air as a gift.
Wonderful machine, top notch quality. Im writing this on a late 2013 model running bootcamped win 7. Runs great. I even game some older titles with it. Nfsu2, trackmania nations...
The thing with apple is they spare no expense.
With budget laptops, even higher end laps, you can feel they saved money on keyboard, trackpad, audio, screen etc.
Apple makes everything A complete package that runs great.
Im not into mac os, its good but I wasnt into learning it, so I have dual boot and can still use it when I borrow my mac to senpai members. There is zero data there so no worries, privacy protected.
It should be a good investment anon, you might even get ur uncle on the apple bandwagon.
And everything apple holds good price over the years.
For my next lap idk if I'll go with apple again, since I think Ill be more interested into gaming so gaming lap will do better job with its dedicated cooling etc. Anyways macbook air is nowhere near deisgned to be used for gaming.
While I was at Uni, this lap also was very very great to use in public libraries studying presentations and browsing.
All around great lil thing.
>>28866011
Your thermal paste is up for replacement. Enjoy your hard drive failure in a few weeks.
>Spare no expense
To the user. They use shitty RAM with bad timings (and a firmware that goes apeshit if you try to put RAM with different timings into it), and they solder that to the board these days, making a simple RAM upgrade a matter of buying a $400 motherboard.
>A complete package that runs great
A simple google search for El Capitan's lag disaster is a great counterexample to that.
>gaming laptop
You mean more marketing spam? Please read the thread before you reply with more trash.
the only apple things i can deal with are ipads and iphones. those work fine for what they are, there's better and cheaper options, but they still work fine.
their computers and their operating system are fucking garbage though. i want to call osx a dumbed down piece of shit, it is, but they make such simple things so absurdly messy. every time i use a mac it's just annoyances stacked on aggravation. they are good computers for people who don't really know anything about computers and constantly have problems on windows because they are half retarded and fuck everything up
>>28865479
>not mentioning the retina display, insanely good trackpad, pcie ssd, and os (you can disagree here but i think osx is a lot better than windows)
face it anon most users don't need overkill specs in a laptop
>>28863911
just install os x on an other laptop, 95% same experience
>>28866297
>retina display
>implying you'll notice the difference on a 13 inch screen no matter how big of a faggot you think you are
>insanely good trackpad
Explain further
>pcie ssd
>minor performance boost which won't even be noticeable during everyday use
>os
Complete garbage
>>28866340
>Hackintosh.
It's a mess with updates and hw compatibility, AFAIK
>>28866446
Eh, works on my machine. I didn't even buy it specifically for hackintosh.
>>28866502
Does it work fast?
Does everything work?
>>28866502
also: how did you check for compatibilty before the installation? Which guide did you follow?
>>28863911
I spent 800 bucks on a camera that I didn't really need just because I really wanted to have it. If you have the money buy it. Your uncle is right though, apple products are overpriced.
>>28866570
are you using it, at least?
>>28864298
>quora and reddit
Fuck you
>>28866593
I knew someone would come just to say this.
Thank you, faggot.
Change sentences once in a while and thin kwith your own head...mk?
>>28866592
Everyday. I dont reget buying it it just wasnt that necessary.
>>28866535
Yes, everything (even though i had to fiddle a bit to get ethernet working). Works faster than windows 7, 10 and arch (gnome).
>>28866569
I checked by 3 parameters:
a good motherboard (gigabyte are great)
intel CPU
Nvidia GPU
I have a gigabyte ga-d3v or something, i5-4440 and gtx 770. As a guide i just wrote clover and OS X install image from torrents to a usb and partitioned my HD and installed it there and installed additional drivers when i needed.
>>28866105
What's good thermal paste for macbook?
>>28863911
>I am CRAVING about buying it
why? does it really matter? that's a really strange thing to say.
>>28864531
My experince is windows will tell you it is going to shove updates down your throat then proceeds
Apple will just lube them first
>>28866893
There are an enormous amount of guides out there recommending one or the other. I use Arctic Silver 5 because I am a complete fucking loser (meaning I bought a syringe of it once, and it has lasted for ages).
In reality, you have to do your own research. There will be sales, there will be other stuff, but just read around and see what is necessary. Thermal paste is pretty simple, and a large majority of it does not expire very quickly like the trash Apple uses.
>>28863911
I have a mac and i like it a lot. I would look at their refurbished section for a 2014-2015 edition though, because the newer ones are pricey.
>>28867152
Read. The Fucking. Thread.
Your baseless opinion has absolutely no reason to be here.
>>28867185
Damn! Calm down, dude.
>da pills
>>28867068
i bought a small tube of arctic silver and i haven't had to get another in like 9 years
that shit lasts forever
>>28867213
>calm down
>lmaoroflstonecold.jpg
>>28867236
Same here.
If really have a bunch of spare cash to throw at a laptop, get this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291645911089?customid=7360eb8c246111e6bd86d2bd6a0395d10INT&pub=5574652453&campid=5337259887&afepn=5337259887&afepn=5337259887&rmvSB=true
Otherwise get a decent performance laptop that will match any faggot mac performance for <$300
I'll bite. If you want a top shelf laptop, have a custom one built at digital storm, or origin. You can see exactly what's going into it instead of getting unbranded components that go into apple computers.
i spent a grand on some rick owens geo basket sneakers, i really regret it
