So, 36 and still a virgin. Meaning I'm now on my 6th year carrying the dreaded title of a "wizard" (no, you don't learn magic). I never wanted children, and I'm actually glad that I never had to go trough any of the childish drama I've seen others (failing to) endure. Also, free and pure from STDs, things could be worse.
But I still feel incomplete as a man. Like I'm something less than the others who managed to get theirs. Like a part of me is missing. Deep down I know that I missed out, when I couldn't get my chance to fool around with some nice 20-something year old.
>>28825766
I'm free and pure from STD's and have been with 13 women so far (I'm 24)
>>28825766
38 year old Wizard reporting.
In all honesty, you're weird, or maybe I'm. Well, we both are, but I don't understand why so many of my fellow bearded brah are obsessed with this idea of "having missed out" and I'm not.
I've my own regrets, but the chance of fooling around with a girl when I was still young ain't one. I regret not finding a good woman and founding a family though.
>>28825766 (OP)
Who'd have thought it? I think I've actually found a peer. I'm 36 years old as well, lived as a wizard just as long as you have. One doesn't find many like us, does he? We're a rare breed; I think we'd both agree that's a very good thing. I wouldn't wish our condition on my worst enemy. Not even I'm bitter enough to be capable of that kind of hate.
>no, you don't learn magic
No, but like any proper sorcerer, we do have our share of demons, don't we? When the Spirit of Nature rejects you, there are no shortage of demons willing to rush in and take Her place. Well, to each man the familiar he deserves, I suppose. And we have exactly what we are "entitled" to.
So, a question. Why do you think you've found yourself in our quite unusual position? I'm slowly learning that not all wizards for the same reason. In my case, the answer is simple: women simply find me repulsive. And I had always assumed my brothers were the same. And yet, I see more and more evidence that I am exceptional, even among the exceptions.
So, why do you feel you never had a chance?
>>28826051
>>28826099
>>28825766
28 still a khv, and dont want to be like you guys.
Please help.
>>28826030
>Select all of the images with pancake
>I'm not a robot
Get.Out.
>>28826131
>28 still a khv, and dont want to be like you guys.
>Please help.
I'm afraid you're asking the wrong men. You don't ask a devil the best way to avoid damnation, especially if he was born in Hell.
>>28826051
38 here too and there's times when I wish I was a virgin. jk.
>>28826131
Better save up mana because that ship sailed a long time ago Anon
>>28825766
>>28826051
>>28826099
How did you guys end up as wizards? Are you fat/ugly/uneducated/jobless/socially retarded or all of the above?
>>28825766
you grew up in the 90s man, how on earth did you fuck up? my bro was born in 88, dropped out, and still manages to get fucked and end up with a good wife
>>28826208
Also, at what age did you give up on relationships?
>>28826159
yeah, good point.
I could think of some things I wouldve done differently. Things that might have completely altered my life trajectory. IDK.
Have a half decent job now, and still live at home, so thinking of blowing my savings on some fun times with hookers before I turn 30.
>>28826208
>>28826208
>How did you guys end up as wizards? Are you fat/ugly/uneducated/jobless/socially retarded or all of the above?
Well, in my case, I am not uneducated. I am not jobless. I am not fat. I am not socially retarded.
So, as I indicated in a previous post, I must be very ugly. It's a difficult thing to come to terms with. Even now I haven't.
In a sense, I have accepted it. Which isn't to say my acceptance is tantamount to finding peace with it. I haven't been able to trick myself into some sort of Nirvana. Rather, I have accepted the reality of my situation. I still hate it, I still resent it, it still makes me dizzy with anger. And yet, I know that I have no justification for any kind of hope. Living one's entire adult life seeing nothing but revulsion in the eyes of women is a fantastic tutor when it comes to the reality of one's place in the normal course of things.
In Milton's "Paradise Lost", Lucifer hated and resented the fact he could never triumph over God. He knew he had no hope in any campaign against the omnipotent, and yet he raged against God nonetheless. He had no hope, and yet his hopelessness couldn't provide him peace. He may have been one of the damned, but he wasn't one of the dead.
Men like me are little different in that respect. I suppose it's a testament to God's generosity that there are so few of us.
>>28826208
28 year old khv here.
>fat
No. 6'0" 157 lbs
>ugly
average
>uneducated
I have a worthless BA, so maybe
>jobless
I have a crappy job and live in an expensive area, so that means I live with my parents
>socially retarded
Not super awkward but yeah. I dont think I'd pick up on women sending me signals or have the nerve to approach. I had an old fat lady at a bar grope me. I don't meet/know many young women.
>>28826514
Are you objectively ugly? Like no chin, balding, big nose, wide face, etc. I'm kind of curious how someone who is legitimately ugly looks like, because there must be some redeeming quality, right? Like having beautiful eyes or thick eyebrows.
>>28826635
>worthless BA & crappy job
Are there no women in your field or place of work? Or is your awkwardness getting in the way of you talking to them?
>>28826208
>Are you fat/ugly/uneducated/jobless/socially retarded or all of the above?
I don't find myself ugly, but who knows if I'm objective?
I'm socially retarded, that's for sure, but apart from that I'm an average dude with an average job (nothing fancy), a few diplomas in computer science, and going to the gym every week so I'm rather in shape for my age.
>>28826232
I went on some kind of frenzy after hitting 30, like an internal clockwork telling me to settle down with whatever acceptable girl I could find but I'm tired to walk the dinosaur only to find that she doesn't like me in the slightest. So be it.
That being said, it's my own fault. Same problem than >>28826635, I'm not into approaching women, too anxious for that.
>>28826783
>Are you objectively ugly?
Well, obviously so. I am a 36 year old virgin with no psychiatric impairments, I am not unemployed, I am not terrified by interacting with other people.
I suppose I could give you some description of myself, but that would be gratuitous. In a case such as mine, your imagination should suffice.
>>28826212
>>28826208
>>28826099
-Diagnosed with Asperger's 9 years ago (LOL, assburger). As you might expect, this came with all the negative personality traits one could expect from a person with this condition.
-BDSM fetish. I just didn't wanna waste my time with women who wouldn't wanna satisfy this need for bondage and leather.
-I don't drink/narc. I have no desire to participate to the bar/clubbing culture. How the fuck was I supposed to know that's all the places where potentially interested women hang out.
-At the end of the day, I'm terrified of the consequences if/when the relationship ends. Be it friends of family, not one marriage/relationshit that I was an eyewitness to lasted. The break-ups were always really wile and nasty, and I didn't wanna go trough any of that. The very thought gave me anxiety (see Asperger's).
The whole sex thing is stupid. It's way overrated.
What is not stupid however is being in love. Having someone that you connect with in so many regards and get so much joy of being in their company. Someone you can feel truly free with and open up to. Someone who is like your partner in crime, and always on your side.
There's nothing like cuddling with a partner after lovemaking. I personally think sex is pretty gross. But the snuggle time and bonding is where its at.
>>28826966
Reminder that love evolved to lock males to pregnant females so males would actually stick around to raise the children
>>28826783
I talk to them, but most are 17-22 year bimbos, and the work environment is full of old dudes hitting on them all day, so their shields are up bro. Plus Im pretty pathetic and dont have much of a life besides work and working out.
I know a dude at work, and he's quite a manslut. Apparently snapchatting stupid poses of himself to bitches works for him. He's also a pretty into drugs and emo bands.
Oh and there's this too - the dude is like half a foot shorter than me, (he's like 5'5") , and dating a girl two inches taller than me (she's chubby in places though - she's already has some patches of cellulite.). It's torture seeing idiots like that wallowing in pussy though.
If it bothers you that much, just take some viagra and hire a hooker. Problem solved.
>>28826878
I see. I think it's kind of surprising that you haven't found anyone ever with a CS degree, despite there not being many women in the field it seems like everyone, including the aspies, found a way to partner up.
If you do decide to try finding a woman, then there could be a chance to start a family with her. You remind me of a friend of mine for some reason and it makes me sad because he has given up too.
>>28825766
Why not import a thai wife?
Get a good prenup and go from there
Thats what I plan on doing if I don't kill myself first. I'm 26 year old virgin so if I ever get into a decent career that'll be my route.
>>28826962
At the end of the day, I'm terrified of the consequences if/when the relationship ends.
I completely feel you on this point. It's like, if the relationship ends after 6 months then it's a complete bust and you just wasted that much time on someone you won't be with and then you have all of these leftover feelings of loneliness.
>>28827065
I suppose he cast his line out and took whatever he could get!
>>28827184
Unlike most of the user base here, I'm not into Asian pussy. Thais don't even look that good to me, and the culture doesn't feel that appealing.
>>28826208
30 khhv here, all of the above.
37 yo khhv
neet
millionaire due to previous career and assets
I raged so hard I broke. Now I'm a nihilist.
utterly powerless in this world.
I'm like a ghost, but I conduct minor financial transactions.
>>28827184
I'm a 40+kv and like this guy >>28827396 I'm not such a fan of asians. Some married flip women have offered to get me one but I'm not sure I can come at that.
>>28826232
I haven't but I must admit its highly unlikely.
>>28828082
why not go to thailand and fuck hors ?
26 KV.
Average in most respects. I've never tried to pursue a girl in real life. I've never asked a girl on a date, or expressed interest, or any of that.
It still eats at me. I just want to know what it's like to be with a girl like that; to have sex, to have a girlfriend, to be at least modestly socially validated in that romantic market.
Unfortunately I'm poor, in debt, and live with my parents. My fate is likely sealed at this point.
>>28828147
Not him but if they don't love me I couldn't be bothered.
>>28828375
thats a deluded way of thinking
at least have sex
When would you wizbros and ageing apprentices say your situation became irreversible? I'm a 22 KV and I feel like I'm standing at the edge of the void. It's hard to imagine coming back from being a virgin past what you could call "school age" (24+).
>>28825766
Don't worry, I fucked one girl and I still feel like that because I'm not currently fucking one. Being a virgin and being single as a non-virgin are pretty much exactly the same, so you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
>>28826918
How many times have you been rejected? Did they mention your looks ever or say something about being way out of your league?
>>28826030
you prob still have HPV,slut
>discover sex tourism
>penetrated dozens of females
>made out with and fingered strippers
>happy endings from masseuses
>alcoholic
>pray every night I don't wake up tomorrow
>my first waking thought is deep sadness I have to keep going
>thinking of getting a sugar baby to simulate a relationship
>that is my only realistic option
having sex won't fix everything
getting fit won't fix everything
getting rich might
>>28828389
>thats a deluded way of thinking
>at least have sex
For a man like myself, visiting a prostitute is not merely paying for sex. It's paying a woman to touch you while she struggles to keep herself from vomiting. That's not a particularly appealing prospect. Wizards exist despite the fact that there are prostitutes; there's a reason why that's the case.
>>28828393
>When would you wizbros and ageing apprentices say your situation became irreversible?
Well, each of us can only speak for ourselves. In my case, the situation was apparently irreversible the moment I first drew breath. Fortunately, I'm an exception to the rule. Statistically speaking, you are probably not like me.
>>28828413
>Don't worry, I fucked one girl and I still feel like that because I'm not currently fucking one.
I would never hope to denigrate the pain of anyone. However, your circumstance is fundamentally different than the OP's.
A woman once desired you, and you have justification to hope that one will desire you again. Men like the OP and myself don't have the luxury of that kind of hope.
So, while you may be hurting, you are hurting in a very different way. A fallen angel and a devil are both damned, true enough. However, the former was exiled to Hell. The latter was born in it.
>>28828393
Like I said in my OP post: "I never had a chance".
>>28828463
>How many times have you been rejected?
I've been rejected a countless number of times. I have never met a woman's gaze without seeing instinctive disgust in her eyes. Every woman who has ever looked at me rejected me before I spoke a single word to her.
Not all language is verbal, after all. A single horrified glance communicates far more than an awkward, uncomfortable rejection ever could.
>>28825766
>Not just going to a whore
>Feeling bad about taking shortcuts in life instead of finding satisfaction in it
Yeah, no wonder you're a fucking virgin. Kys.
>>28828970
Well try this for size: 200 euros for 30 minutes. Try to rip humor from that. Yeah, fuck that.
>>28825766
You have to talk to the mountain men and become a master of the arcane. That'll fill the void.
>>28829625
You are a retard
Not even a real woman costs that much let alone a fuckhole
>>28827396
>the 40 year old virgin is picky
>>28829873
Wanna bet?
>>28830024
Yeah, sorry but I still like having standards.
>>28826131
This is how a cuck is born
>>28827396
They look like trannies
>>28825766
welcome to the RNG of life.
some are your age dealing with divorce and tween age kids
some are your age with a happy family
some are your age with a child free mate/spouse haply living i up.
some are your age being told they have months to live
some never made it that far and are gone now
All we have is today.
