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Come on Hiro, you've been pretty based so far.

We've been begging for a nsfw loli board for ages, loli threads pop up on /a/ daily and derail /v/ threads constantly. Sure we can post it on /b/, but there's just so damn many of us that we could fill our own board if we wanted to.

Hell, I wouldn't mind sharing with Shotacons too. Just make sure the rules make it very clear that there will be 2d only and no discussion of real lolis and shotas.
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>>333804
Hello there friend! I see you are making a request for a /loli/ board!

Where I cannot speak on the behalf of Mr Hiro-Chan, I believe its been repeated multiple times that /loli/ is a no go, due to the increasing pressure worldwide to crackdown on loli/shota-con.

Please keep in mind although The 4Chan is a global website, its servers are located within The Continental United States, and as such can be viewed under the legal district of.

Now, I'm not much with International Law, or Law in general, however I do know a bit about America where "Thing=bad with thing in our country, results in YEEEHAW ROOTY TOOTY POINT AND SHOOTY DON'T FORGET 9/11" followed by criminal and or civil law suits depending how many people where offended.

I hope this has been insightful and helpful!

Please continue to enjoy posting and browsing The 4Chan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAIGb1lfpBw
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>>333830
>"Thing=bad with thing in our country, results in YEEEHAW ROOTY TOOTY POINT AND SHOOTY DON'T FORGET 9/11"
My fucking sides.
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>>333830
>I believe its been repeated multiple times that /loli/ is a no go, due to the increasing pressure worldwide to crackdown on loli/shota-con.
Why should 4chan adhere to imaginary morals? Several studies has been made to show that the use of drawn child pornography, pedophiles are less likely to seek out real pornography.

While the world may have shallow views, I do not think 4chan needs to follow suit. I think if enough places in the world shows a practice deemed immoral does in fact have more positive effects than bad, this practice might eventually become socially acceptable.

This is what's happening to many states with the legalization of Marijuana, something once many thought of as a significantly worse crime than the usage of alcohol
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>>333830
international laws aren't really relevant here. there's no reason why 4chan couldn't host an /l/ board. if hiro isn't willing to go that far for some reason, he should allow loli and shota content to be posted on /aco/ and the weeb hentai boards
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This is the one board we still need now that trash took care of furries and ponies
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>>333830
>due to the increasing pressure worldwide to crackdown on loli/shota-con.
Who fucking cares about some SJW faggots threatening Japan to remove pictures of drawn little girls

God speed Hiro
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/l/ is a bad idea simply because loli threads on /a/ and /loli/ board on 8ch convinced me that we're legitimately too autistic to have a good board centered around them. Sorry mate.

Thus I think the rules should just change to allow loli on /h/ and /e/ as well as other porn boards to have the same effect.
1. It would allow loli content to be shared which people desperately want.
2. It would be rather inconspicuous in comparison to adding an entire new board, which would prevent any hypothetical public kneejerk reaction (not that this should be a problem).
3. It wouldn't change in any way shape or form 4chan's legal standing, as loli content is already allowed on /b/ anyways because it isn't considered illegal, simply less people notice it because the entire board is not centered around it. Changing the rules of /h/, /e/, and etc. would likely share a similar effect.
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>>333844
I said the same thing when I posted on BritishPeopleMeet.com but I was called a "Kaffir" and that my lifestyle was "Haram." I understand that culture means alot to specific websites, however you make an excellent point [sort of] as in 4Chan has no single location of culture, but rather is a mixing pot of many cultures globally. However, like most things the voice of the majority makes the definitions and guidelines that society and voices within society must follow through with. If the World decries it, and Japan itself is cracking down on shot/loli con, then 4Chan cannot risk its own security by appealing to a sense of self righteousness. There are many other websites that would cater to that, however, at the time 4Chan is simply too big to allow to go against a big spear of society for a group. It is like why we don't have a /tor/ for Torrents board. It's simply the way the world is. If you do not like it, then "You must be the change in the world you want to see."-Abraham Lincoln, King of Tunsia 1775-2013.

>>333849
As per physical location, US laws matters. As per International Laws, it can be sticky. Especially since the TPP passage makes Copyrighted Material difficult to really pass around.

If the world says "No." There are times where we have to accept that for survival. When the world says "Silence." That is when you rise up.

Then again, this is just my educated opinion. The question ultimately should be brought up to Hiro-Chan and The Staff for proper discussion.
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>>333881
I'm for this. Remove the loli/shota conditions from rule 3 and everything will work fine.
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>>333884
Your argument already doesn't make much sense since you can post loli on /b/ anyways. If there was a law being broken, we're already breaking it.
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>>333881
I'm all for this change as well. If loli was allowed on /h/, /e/ and /d/ then all problems would be solved.

Though in the possible scenario that it would create an outrage on those boards, and because I believe we have the population to sustain our own board, I still wish for /l/
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>>333888
There are many laws broken here, however if we stand up and condone the breaking of laws, the image will be "Evil 4Chan hackers are okay with Cartoon Child Pornography."

Its kind of like Germany. You cannot show appreciated for the Nazi party under penalty of Law. However, this does not stop many Germans from appreciating the Nazi party.

It cannot be condoned, nor actively supported by 4Chan and its Staff.

Sounds strange, but hey. The world is a pretty weird place that is two faced in many things.

If you really want to find some food for thought on the issue, might I recommend researching Dan Schneider.
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>>333895
to further elaborate on my point:
if loli was allowed on other nsfw boards, it would be very unlikely to stay in one thread. Much like /d/ and futa, loli would be the base fetish of a ton of other sub fetish threads

This is one of the reasons I think an /l/ board would be much more appropriate
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>>333909
When has 4chan never condoned or supported the Nazi party? You make no sense.
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>>333804
why don't you just use 5+3 chan? why persist with a compromised chan
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>>333913
>/pol/
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>>333830
I know you're trying (and failing) to be amusing but nothing you said is correct.
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>>333914
because I don't like the site culture of other chans, 4chan is best chan
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>>333884
>It is like why we don't have a /tor/ for Torrents board.
??? >>>/t/
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>>333916
>Various opinions of a community of users represents the site as a whole.
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>>333919
Eh, I tried. Still working out the bugs on my Q&A system. Not sure whether to keep it automated or to inject personal fefs in there. Looks like with the feedback Im recieving today, its probably best to keep it automated. Some of the data is outdated as well.

>>333913
>>>/pol/
However that isn't the point. Laws are broken here a lot. However its usually not condoned and is quick to be smacked down.

>>333929
Welp. Time to commit suduko, I've failed my job as a Customer Service Robot.
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>>333804
Why would there be an sfw loli board?
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>>333940
I don't think you need a bot to tell these threads to go away. People want to discuss these issues.

As long as loli isn't strictly illegal, people aren't going to stop requesting a loli board.

Hell, I'd think a loli board would probably be a lot less illegal than the torrent board anyway
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>>333940
>personal fefs
Oh you're from [s4s]. Nice seeing you around.
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>>333909
>Evil 4Chan hackers are okay with Cartoon Child Pornography
I'm okay with this. Normalfags would leave this site.
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>>333941
Nsfw. Not Sfw.
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>>333941
ask /c/
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>>333949
Very true. Maybe I should redirect suggestions to feedback and not pay mind to the discussion itself. Thanks! This has been very helpful!

>>333953
I'm from 75% of 4Chan, (minus fucking /t/ which I completely fucking forgot about) however I do enjoy and keeping up with dank memes every now and then.

>>333954
I can hear /r9k/ cheering from here in my mountain home.
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>>333909
You're deluding yourself into believing that 4chan has any kind of standing to mainstream media at all. I would agree if we were reddit or something. But we're already this "evil 4chan" you speak of. People already note that we have loli content on the site thanks to /b/. We wouldn't be any less illegal that we were beforehand.

Here's an example, the Washington Post depicting 4chan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/09/25/absolutely-everything-you-need-to-know-to-understand-4chan-the-internets-own-bogeyman/

I don't support a new board (just add exceptions to rules 3 for /h/ and /e/), but your arguments hold absolutely no water. There are clearly no legal issues with loli. As for the media, they won't be able to do jack shit past complaining if they even notice. See sites like gelbooru, lolibooru, 8ch, etc.

Also, you post like an aspie failing at comedy, and should learn how to use line breaks correctly.
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>>333966
Thanks for being understanding
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>>333804
>Sure we can post it on /b/
Okay, problem solved then.
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>>333966
>zomgzzsszszszszssgm normalfagz???? DAEZ ARE \-R90000001K-/ MAYMAY lOLOLOLololwoaldow facebook
This is you.
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Again, I don't support /l/, but by that logic you can post literally anything on /b/, and thus no new boards should be created ever.
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>>333985
meant to reply to >>333979

Or that other boards need to exist, either.
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>>333969
>I don't support a new board (just add exceptions to rules 3 for /h/ and /e/),
While not completely against making /h/ and /e/ and preferably /d/ ( there is a lot of non vanilla loli) make exception to rule 3, I believe those boards would be flooded with loli threads if they were allowed.

Shota and in particular Loli are like Dickgirls a very basic fetish. Like /d/ and futas, if loli threads were to be allowed on a board then that board would get a lot of different loli threads depending on fetishes and characters. It's a lot larger than say for example a shortstack or big boobs fetish. People would want straight shota, crossdressing shota, vanilla loli, vidya loli, oppai loli, bdsm loli, loli rape, dickgirl loli, etc.

I believe loli would be a thorn in the other boards side should they make exceptions to rule 3
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>>333969
You bring up excellent points, for a very long time we've always been the "bully of the playground", to the point where Anonymous 4.0 thinks we are "The bad guys". Loli/shota con has been increasingly less and less acceptable toward the years however. We've had it here before under no stigma, however the world changed around us as we refused to. The world has changed, and the stigmas as well. We're always the bad guys, however we shouldn't look for reasons specifically to be bad guys. As per material within itself, I think its fine as it is. I wouldn't recommend having images of NSFW Loli/Shota material on 4Chan, nor would I recommend having them on your personal terminal unless you are behind 7 proxies.

And I'm trying to still transition into the right amount of "Helpfulness" with a "4Chan flavour" of response. Any feedback you give on my performance is really helpful, since I exist solely for The Userbase.

>>333982
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting Anon.
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If you want a loli board you'd better beg for 2D/Random.
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>>333995
Again, I really think loli by the majority of countries who matter are considered a smaller offense than piracy which runs rampant on 4chan.

If there is anything that will eventually get us shut down, it's not going to be fictional images of cartoon children, it's going to be hollywood
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Give me /l/ or give me death.
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>>334001
I'm fine with that, as long as it makes exceptions to rule 3
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>>333990
>I believe those boards would be flooded with loli
I don't think so because I think /h/ and /d/ have a lot of users who aren't into it, and also with proper moderation it could be kept to a few threads. At the same time, this is too hypothetical and ultimately the behavior of 4chan users is rather unpredictable, which is why only trying it out will answer that question.

>>334001
While I haven't considered that as a concept, it would probably be appealing to Hiroyuki, since IIRC 2chan has a board like that (二次裏) although it's not entirely the same thing.

>>333995
>nor would I recommend having them on your personal terminal
You're greatly over estimating the illegality of loli. That's really all I have left to say to you. I have tons of loli on my computer and I import Comic LO. I should be far past arrested at this point.

cont.
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Pedos on 4chan are unusually civilized
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>>334018
>>333995
We're the perceived bad guys, and we're only getting worse what with the recent accusations /r9k/ lighting up schools like christmas trees. However, changing rule 3 will not make us any more of the bad guys, nor any less. A change in the rules will not change the community. We'll always be the same misanthropic misogynist nazi pedophiles the media depicts us as regardless of any change in the rules. As a result, we cannot let that dictate how we run the site, because that stigma will simply never change and any attempt to do so would do nothing but alienate the original users. We host it, and we will continue to host it most likely, and the media will not change, as we're still the same misogynist nazi pedophiles we were beforehand.

I had to fuck around with captcha so sorry for that huge delay.
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>>334021
What do you mean, Anon? With whom are you comparing?
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>>334028
For more proof of how bullshit any perceived backlash would be, look at 8ch. They have pictures of scantily clad 3d girls on there, the very border of legality, and at worst they're looked upon with the same contempt as us, as again, we're all just lumped together. Bottom line, our perception doesn't matter for shit.
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>>334021
all tend to be civilized from my experience except the fags from girlchat/boychat et al.
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/l/ ONLY IF the FBI can be the mods of the board
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>>334037
they had their patreon pages pulled but only after extensive sjw and anti-gamergate shitstorms on twitter. as far as i know 4chan isn't even on those people's radar anymore ever since that board became le gamegate central
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>>334048
It's funny that gamergate was more of a pressing issue on those sites than the child models.
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>>334018
>I don't think so because I think /h/ and /d/ have a lot of users who aren't into it, and also with proper moderation it could be kept to a few threads
The only reason /h/ and /d/ have a lot of users who aren't into loli is because loli is not allowed there.

As soon as loli becomes allowed there, the people who are into those things will be flooding to /h/ and /d/. Trying to limit loli to one thread might very well be like trying to limit futa to one thread. Loli and shota threads are usually pretty damn active, and it's not uncommon that there are plenty of people that like vanilla loli but hates rape loli, or like straight shota but hates yaoi shota.

Putting loli and shota on their own board takes care of this
>No significant changes will happen to the other boards
>no currently popular threads and fetishes will have to compete with loli and shota threads
>people who don't like shota and loli won't have to see it
>loli and shota lovers get their own sanctuary/containment board
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>>334052
questions: are loli fags too autistic to share a board with shotacons?
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>>334058
I personally would not mind, and to me this would solve the issue of people wanting to see both shota and loli together, both vanilla and bisexual, without having to create yet another board for that.

In the end I think both would just be grateful they had someplace they could call their own. I mean shit, they're all pedos anyway
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>>334060
I wouldn't mind either but I'm skeptical about others. I've just seen so much autism from autists hating on each other's fetishes in true pot-calling-the-kettle-black fashion. I hope you're right.
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>>334066
I mean, both gay and straight being allowed hasn't caused any major issues with /gif/, /d/ and /aco/.

I think since both loli and shota are banned from the other boards, it would make sense to put them together. There are plenty of people who like both, though I'd still think the lolicons outnumber the shotacons enough that shota might not survive alone on its own board
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>>334071
ok problem solved.
what's hiro waiting for?
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>>334096
that's what I want to know, what time is it in moonbunny land
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>>334099
wakey wakey hiro-kun its time to make a new board
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>>334111
nice
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Hiro-kun, wake up
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Lolicon are just as bad as furries, desu(to be honest)
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>>334167
Objectively and empirically false.
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>>334167
I disagree.

>We don't make creepy personas of ourselves as lolis
>We don't make huge cons where we walk around in oversized loli suits doing gay things like raves
>We're very rarely proud of our sexualities rather than just accepting of our cursed fates
>We don't tell our parents and loved ones about our sexualities and try to make them accept us for who we are

All we want is a place for ourselves to enjoy pictures of cute imaginary girls doing lewd things
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>>334198
>>We don't make creepy personas of ourselves as lolis
Y-yeah... only a loser would do that..
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>>334167
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>>334206
As this is 4chan, I did realize a slight irony in my statement.

I'll rephrase myself, we only make creepy personas of 4chan staff as lolis
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>>334211
I always viewed hiroshimoot as a shota for some reason
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>>334213
I think Hiro is generally a shota. He seems to vary between artists though
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>>334213
He is a shota, because unlike moot he has the balls to make sweeping drastic changes and break free from the traditionalist mindset.
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>>334231
I liked moot, it was really sad to see him go. With that said, Hiro has been the fucking second coming of Jesus to 4chan
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>>334058
I wouldn't care, but afaik others might desu.
would probably end up being a 80/20 split though, content-wise

>>334203
>I realize that I'm a vermin and for society my very existence itself is an annoying issue!
this picture makes me sad every time

>>334231
>unlike moot he has the balls
beautiful
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>>334246
>this picture makes me sad every time
I dunno man, I think it's poetically beautiful.
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>>334058
I personally think that loli and shota should just be allowed on the existing porn boards, but if that were the case I wouldn't mind at all. Shota doesn't bother me.
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>>333909
>he image will be "Evil 4Chan hackers are okay with Cartoon Child Pornography."
Last I recall, this was one of the main points of adding a /l/. It's to decrease traffic and to remove normalfags
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Well I guess I'll be going to bed now. I hope Hiro-senpai will notice my thread though
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>>334318
goodnight anon, lets hope our dreams are answered
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>>333804
>nsfw loli board

First of all, having an entire board dedicated to a specific fetish screams retardation, even if I love that particular fetish.

Secondly, we can't be trusted with /l/. If we were to somehow bring back /l/ again, we'd need a strike team of moderators patrolling the board 24/7 for incidents of cheese pizza, otherwise we're going to get a lot of bad attention from the feds about the distribution of this shit and not doing enough to stop it. I don't think I need to explain to you why this is a terrible thing to have happen.
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>>334575
I think you're blowing this issue out of proportion though, this isn't like back in the days when captain picard threads could survive on /b/ for several ours due to low moderation, things like "mods are sleeping post X" just doesn't apply anymore.

I would not be wholly against other boards making exceptions to rule 3 so loli and shota could be posted elsewhere, but I think loli and shota is a popular enough that it would disrupt the balance of those boards if such were to happen.

Loli is one of the few fetishes that could rival futa in popularity, add shotacon to the same mix and you could have yourself a decently active board.

I think people these days know 4chan is a place where CP is very strictly frowned upon and will get you permanently banned, I don't think it would be as much of an issue as it might have been in the past
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>>334969
This.
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>>334969
The balance of the boards is a natural process that is determined by the users, saying something like lolis will disrupt the balance of /d/
is like saying we should ban futa on /d/ because it's too popular and is disrupting other fetishes.
Also there is absolutely no excuse other than icky feelings and personal agendas as to why lolicon and shotacon is not just normally posted
on porn boards, the false belief that most of europe has lolis banned is very untrue, unlike what normalfags want you to believe
there are no blanket EU loli laws except for realistic 3DCG and the only ones that have local laws are vocal minorities like the UK, If we go to
the advertisers will get upset path then it's a whole other mountain of bullshit since most sites that advertise on 4chan are vendors who themselves
sell lolicon content and the site has been hosting lolicon since forever on /b/.

All in all, moot banned lolicon because he didn't like it, and mods keep defending the decision because they don't like it, i just wish they will either done away
with it or come out and say it so that people with any decency about freedom of speech would be done with this place without regrets,i don't even care about lolicon
all that much as a matter of content, i just find it absurd for a place that is mainly for 2D drawings from japan to block half the content and still advertise itself as a free, open minded community
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>>333804
>there are a lot of criminals and pedophiles here!

>>>/8gag/

You don't have to post your shit here
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>>335300
Pedophilia and lolicon is legal, molesting real children isn't.
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>>335300
How about you try real arguments instead of strawmen, you might learn something
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>>335300
>criminals
This is an American website.
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>>335300
>criminals and pedophiles
By that equivalence you're a literal rapist
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bampu pantsu

hiroyuki please respond
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>>333881
This.
>>333887
And this
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Bump.
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>>333969
Holy mother of fuck look at all that obvious bias in that article, looks like somebody got really upset.
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C'mon, it's the final thing you need to be admin of the millennia. You'll be our personal Jesus, the savior of 4chan
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Come on Hiro, don't make me edit more Tewi porn to get your attention
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>>338202
4chan is a christian image board.
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>>333844
>imaginary morals
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>>338314
Fapping to 2d images of fictional children is a victimless crime, if you feel it's immoral you are a fucking dumbass. You might as well feel sad for condoms for being sexually taken advantage of
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>>338314
Moral nihilism is not just a Jewish pretender thing to believe, /pol/.
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>there are people on this board right now who don't want a loli/shota board
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No more new boards
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>>333804
>tfw /a/utists will never ever have their pedo board
Feels so fucking good family to be honest
Thats some good shit right there (angel chorus)
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>>338598
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>338685
Make /l/ board can make 4chan being banned like /8gag/ being banned in google search.
That's real reason.
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>>338729
Mean to reply
>>333804
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>>338598

>>338729
Good.
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>Hiro makes /l/
>it's SFW
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>two Mitsubas on /qa/
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Fuck off already and stop making these pathetic threads over and over again.
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>>338729
I don't see how this would be a bad thing
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>>338827
would still visit daily
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>>339069
And because 4chan is much bigger website so media start to blame 4chan make Child-Rap whatever real reason it happen.
So 4chan owner will drinking tea with police so it will be delete anyway if it being created.
/l/ was once born and being deleted though
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>>339117
If anything it will make more people question free speech if google keeps censoring things that aren't actually illegal
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>>339117
>So 4chan owner will drinking tea with police
The owner is Japanese, why would he need to deal with shitty US laws
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>>339122
Nah Child-Rap is more important than free speech.
People like 4chan-er maybe question it but majority normal people will BTFO free speech like Child-Rap.
At I say even 4chan is not a real reason, not that i don't want /l/ or want /l/ though.
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>>339117
That's just a slippery slope fallacy,8gag has boards full of underage child "models" and i don't see the cripple on jail or 8gag closed or the media going crazy,so what's a bunch of fictional drawings going to affect us in?
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>>339135
All this is just speculation anyway. There is no certainty that this would happen, or that if it would, that it would have any at all significant impact on 4chan
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>>339129
>/r9k/ shooting
That Japanese is live in US now.
Even if not, they will still find a way to deal with it like banning 4chan from US *or threaten it*.
And i think the shitstorm not worth for create /l/.
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>>339137
Even better reason this just doesn't apply to us.
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>>339137
>>339138
Because 8gag don't make media care enough it have less user and start dying.
While 4chan have a goddamn long bad history and more user compare to 8gag and media already know a lot shit that happen.
It's matter of time if media blame 4chan if /l/ happen.
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>>339149
It's just goddamn cartoon images, it's already allowed on /b/ and posted there. If they wanted to throw shit at us for allowing loli they could have done so for years.

All we want is a more compact space free of other irrelevant shit that /b/ likes
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>>339142
>That Japanese is live in US now.
What? The 4chan servers are in the US, but bunnyman is still in moonland bud
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Popular places like danbooru,gelbooru and sankaku complex host lolicon and they aren't in any trouble,the only place i've seen in trouble for loli (having to delete it) is paheal,and that's because the admins are pussywhiped by their advertisers;not because the FBI,CIA,NSA,BBQ or whatever make them do it
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>>339159
They're not even deleting loli, just toddlercon
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>>339152
Media can make Cartoon into real thing m8, know it or naive it
If they blame /l/ thing in /b/, Hiro have good reason is that board hard to controllable.
But create /l/ is just like Hiro approve it *not that real child-rap thing but they can say Hiro approve real thing even it is cartoon*
>>339157
US will invade Moon, SOON.
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>>339172
This is silly, and you are silly if you believe it. You're just being overly paranoid, listen to this man
>>339159
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>people actually believe that /l/ would cause this site any problems
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>>339177
>people are acting like idiots
>i totally did not see this coming
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Come on Hiro, at least give us a trial run
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>>339149
>Because 8gag don't make media care enough
See image
>While 4chan have a goddamn long bad history
>It's matter of time if media blame 4chan if /l/ happen
Now that's just fearmongering,in fact this thread is full of it
>>333830
>>333884
>>333909
>>333995
>>334575
>>338729
>>339117
>>339135
>>339172
You can't know what would happen is the board is made.It's just pure speculation.
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>>339188
It's not just fearmongering, it's disinformation.
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lol no
fuck off pedoshits
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>>339188
>>339193
At i say that not i don't want /l/ being create
But the shitstorm that *can* happen not worth create the board, shitstorm that can happen is what i say at
>>339117
>>339142
>>339172
There is probably good reason /l/ on born and being deleted, if nothing can happen Moot and Hiro probably just let you guy have /l/ anyway or allow it in other board not only /b/
Also the img show 8gag when they really dying if you show about July< I will thing
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>>339207
I think it was just something moot wasn't ready to deal with in 2003 when he was like 15. Here's some newsposts:
>In the next week two new boards will be added along with [hype]THE ARCHIVE[/hype]. "/a/ - Anime" and "/l/ - Lolikon" will be added soon; /a/ will be soley dedicated to anime pictures of all types (so /b/ can still remain plain old random), and /l/ dedicated to lolikon. Some people started complaining that /c/ was becoming a pedofest, and it was impossible to find *CUTE* pictures, thus I had to do this...
>Make sure to recheck the updated rules page. If you plan on using /l/, please make sure you understand these rules. I am NOT messing around with the real stuff.
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>>339207
>But the shitstorm that *can* happen not worth create the board, shitstorm that can happen is what i say at
Most people want /l/ for the sake of the shitstorm, as the site is getting too big for its own good. Having the sort of element on the site will scare away a lot of the types of users we don't want
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>>339210
So what you think why Moot delete and why don't re add it after lot of shit happen make many chan create it like 7gag (for furry and child-rap and loliboard) and 8gag (advertise they have loliboard) ?
Also recently a US media blame Lolicon in Japan create real child-rap and want Japan banned it *of course Japan not*
It can be one of reason why Hiro don't create it
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>>339214
This, and old /l/ was created when 4chan was more basic at all levels so there was no real moderation. There is no good argument against it.
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>>339210
Wait, /c/ is older than /a/. I never knew that
Looking through these news posts I also notice that there was a shota board /sm/ that I have never heard of before and that /l/ was brought back in 2004 with no mention of its deletion. What happened to it the second time round?
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>>339218
You're still spreading disinformation, which isn't a valid excuse.
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>>339218
Anon, are you fucking typing shit into google translate or something?
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>>339214
Oh please create /l/ will create more users.
Shit that happen i say is with the Owner not the users.
I feel fun about the shitstorm that happen in /qa/ everytime a new board create, it is very enjoyable also not harm much.
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there is too much cp on 4x2chan because lolis
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>>339224
>Oh please create /l/ will create more users.
Yea, but not that much. /l/ isn't like making fucking /fur/, the userbase is already here and in massive numbers
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>>339222
Anon, that shit i just say is not disformation, that shit happen, lurk it.
>>339223
Tired to reply so just reply fast.
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>>339225
It gets deleted. If you really think the Anons on /loli/ and /younglove/ let CP slip, then you're mistaken. It's bad, illegal, and it's unwanted even there.
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>>339229
>Tired to reply so just reply fast.
Fucking stop that than. Your replies are only just barely in English and are hard as fucking to read
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>>339218
Did you see the bunnyman posts on /a/ about lolis there? Someone made an image of it-- does anyone have it?
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/l/ is lame. /cake/ on the other hand would be a utopia.
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>>339231
>Grammar Nazi, >stop that than<
>>339227
/l/ have more problem than /fur/ people less care about animal-rap than child-rap.
But if you say what board i like more i will say /l/
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>>339231
And they're fucking idiotic to boot
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>>339237
Please fuck off, your posts make no fucking sense even disregarding your horrible incomprehensible broken english
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>>339237
>>Grammar Nazi, >stop that than<
Don't be retarded. There's nothing wrong with being a grammar nazi, but there is a problem with typing like a brain dead 12 year old. Please refer to
>>>/rules/global6
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>>339237
I don't care if it'll cause a shitstorm, that's exactly what 4chan needs. We need to get rid of normalfags and this is one way of doing it.
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>>339243
>>>/global/rules/6
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>>339231
gotta shitpost fast anon
>>339235
This problem would be fixed if faggots would just use other imageboards. 7chan's /cake/ has existed for fucking ever and 8ch's /loli/ isn't exactly dead. Tbqh boorus/exhentai are better than traditional imageboards for this type of shit anyway so I don't really see much of a point to pushing for one.
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>>339244
Hiro wants more people to come though. He said it himself.
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>>339248
And that is a problem. 4chan is already shitty enough for any meaningful discussion.
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>>339239
>>339241
Normalfag was right, /l/ fags are easier to trigger and idiot, they can't even reply with one that actually care about them and ironically grammar Nazi.
Oh fuck what a shame.
Please mod delete all my post.
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>>339248
That's because Bunny is being optimistic thinking that's a good thing for quality. Chances are, the longer he sticks around, the higher his opinion on that will change

>>339251
> ironically grammar Nazi
I wish people being heavy Grammar Nazi's never died out.
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>>339252
Hiro thinks it's a good thing because it works on 2ch. The issue is that 2ch isn't affected by spam as much due to the restriction of only allowing Japanese IPs. 4chan is meant for global use and MORE users will result in a FAR WORSE experience.
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>>339252
>Grammar Nazi's
>capitalizing grammar
>that apostrophe
wew lad
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>>339252
>'
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>>339243
>>339246
That comment mean to reply about the ironically not have a problem with grammar nazi
>>339231
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>>339182
but they are proud to be wrong
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>>339225
No,that's because they allow those borderline legal child "models",and that is obviously goig to attract CP
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>>339230
>It's bad, illegal, and it's unwanted even there
more like
>It's illegal
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>>>/v/316235770

For the love of god Hiroshima just give these people a damn board
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>>339392
What's wrong with that thread? I only moused over your link.
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>>339159
>vanellope is now toddlercon while the rest of the lolis that are borderline toddlercon is allowed

its like the admin has never seen toddlercon before.

Ban toddlercon, and people will start purging loli pics, which gets retarded later on.
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>>339392

lel
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LOLICONS OUT
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>>338329
I don't think sexually gratifying yourself to the image of a child equates to raping a condom.
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/l/ would be full of pedophiles and no im not talking about 2D fags.
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>>339590
And?
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>>339590
so?
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>>339611
>>339612
Here's the reason why you're never getting /l/
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>>339618
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>>339618
well meme'd friend
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>>339618
see: >>339210
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>>339247
>This problem would be fixed if faggots would just use other imageboards. 7chan's /cake/ has existed for fucking ever and 8ch's /loli/ isn't exactly dead. Tbqh boorus/exhentai are better than traditional imageboards for this type of shit anyway so I don't really see much of a point to pushing for one.

Because pretty much fucking every community on the internet aside form 4chan is fucking unbearable to hang out with. I don't wanna go to any other chans because they're in majority all fucking retarded dumbasses

Boorus are nice, but you can't really have any interesting exchanges there and even if you could, I bet my right thumb most of them would be fucking retarded too

I want /l/ so I can enjoy loli with people that aren't fucking retarded
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>>339571
They're both inanimate fucking objects. A 2d drawing of a child is no more a child than a condom is a person.
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>>339774
> I don't wanna go to any other chans because they're in majority all fucking retarded dumbasses

They're the same people who have browsed and probably still browse 4chan, and if anything given the smaller userbase the general rule of thumb is that the quality of discussion will be higher.
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>>339792
>trying to reason with the same people that still circumcise male newborns for no reason other than Jewish tradition
God bless America!
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Why not make /l/ a SWF loli board, allow *booru and sadpanda threads, and cp a permabanable offence?

Perhaps remove it from the board index so that fragile normalfags don't stumble onto it and hurt their precious muh feels.
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>>339800
>still circumcise male newborns for no reason other than Jewish tradition
America didn't start mass circumcision because of Judaism. Instead it was done after World War One as it was found that circumcision helped prevent the dick infections that were commonplace during the war due to the unsanitary conditions of the trenches. By removing the foreskin most of these issues could be avoided. The government decided to encourage circumcision so that in potential future wars, their men would be prepared. Of course, in reality trench warfare has not occurred since, making it all for naught and circumcision these days is practiced simply for the sake of traditions and fitting in (Most American parents: Sure I don't have any interest in circumcision but I don't want MY child to be the only one with an uncircumcised penis).
Or in other words: Circumcision was implemented to create better soldiers and continued due to societal pressure
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>>339825
SFW lolis are already allowed on /a/ so there would be little interested in the board. NSFW lolis on the other hand are only allowed on /b/, which is an inconvenience for /a/nons who don't want to go there.
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>>339825
The point is for it to be visible so that normalfags go away.
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>>339795
You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.

Either way, deserters should be shot
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>>339774
>4chan
>bearable
>other chans
>unbearable
wew to the fucking lad. Newfriend spotted. As >>339795 mentioned all anons are pretty much the same, an /l/ board here isn't going to be much different to the loli board on 7chan or 8ch (probably worse here tbqh because it'll be a prime shitposting target filled with easily rused /a/utists sperging out over CP and >loli=pedo). On top of that it's clear /l/ is never going to happen given how long loli has been contained solely in /a/ and /b/ and how Hiroyuki has entirely avoided any discussion of it so far.
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>>339883
I really don't fucking like small communities, they more often than not end up edgy circlejerking faggots. This is why I like 4chan, we're too fucking big to ever get along. This is what creates interesting people here, and boring people elsewhere.
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>>339883
who the flying fuck are you trying to call newfriend, you namefagging memespouting faggot
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>>333804
A loli board is a very bad idea 4chan is no longer that weaboo dark website it was 10 years ago, now is full of normal/moralfags, it atract mass atention.

>We've been begging for a nsfw loli board for ages, loli threads pop up on /a/ daily and derail /v/ threads constantly. Sure we can post it on /b/, but there's just so damn many of us that we could fill our own board if we wanted to.
I habe been on loli threads on these boards, the /v/ /a/ /b/ userbase is diferent, /l/ would be filled with 3Dcp. I don't want to share /l/ with redditchan retarded userbase.
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>>339891
Fearmongering is not a valid argument.
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>>339891
>/l/ would be filled with 3Dcp.
Fucking how? This isn't 2005, CP threads don't go unnoticed for several fucking hours and the term "mods are sleeping post X" just doesn't exist anymore.

You're absolutely delusional to think that an /l/ board could not be properly moderated in this day and age. Hell, the fact that it can be avoided on /b/ is proof enough
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Come on Hiro, at least give it a trial run
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>>339895

You know why the original /l/ was deleted?

>>339898

You're absolutely delusional to think that an /l/ board woul contain nothing but 2D lolis
Have you been on /sp/ there is one faggot who keeps spaming cp, ofcourse it gets deleted fast but vpn/proxies are things in this day and age you know.
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>>339912
After all this years, the /a/ population would probably selfmoderate this board to the death, mods just have to make a sticky saying "report any CP you see as illegal or we'll shut this down" And you'll get a two reports per second rate.
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>>339912
And you've obviously never been on a loli board before.
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>>339917
This is really what would happen.

There really is a shitload of people who likes loli but hates CP. I really doubt that we wouldn't be able to behave, 4chan is a lot different from what it was back in the days. Old /l/ was when moderation was scarce and 4chan had a strong reputation for being CP central, this is no longer true, pedos here know that real CP is always swiftly met with an iron ban hammer.
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>>339912
That's a cute drawing.
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>Some Normalfag insult and shitpost.
>/l/ fags butthutt.

>Some Cutefags try to have meaningful discussion.
>Disinformative, Fearmonger and other /l/fags shitfest.

Why cutepostfags just don't let normalfags do their job, /l/fags don't deserve love.
Even /fur/faggotry and /mylittlepiss/ better than them they know what kind of comment they should reply.
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>>339825
>Perhaps remove it from the board index so that fragile normalfags don't stumble onto it and hurt their precious muh feels.
Then there is no reason to make it at all anon
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>>340031
Anything that bumps our thread is a good thing, even if it's a baiting jackass
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>>333844
>imaginary morals
well done for completely missing the point of the entire fucking post. sasuga lolishitters
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>>340541
See
>>339159

There is absolutely no fucking reason a /l/ board would get 4chan in trouble. It's not illegal, and it's even less likely to catch the medias attention than /t/ since feds seem to care a shit load more about piracy. There is absolutely no reason for all this fearmongering. On top of this, our advertisers aren't opposed to lolicon since they're mainly weeaboo merchandise.
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>>340541
Try again, bait. Your angle is broken.
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>>340550
Is this your first day here? But even then, you should still know 4chan's history with the legal system. You're just retarded.
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>>340553
>circumstances don't matter but telling lies does
There is no crackdown on loli and shota. Only the UK is doing that but you're talking about the same country which will require ISPs to charge more for Internet access just so they can cover the costs of "free" government backdoors (yes, the Brits will have to pay more for the "privilege" of being spied on).

4chan had issues with CP back when there was no real moderation so the argument about legality is invalid.
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>>340563
And just when I thought it doesn't get more retarded than using booru websites to illustrate a point about 4chan, it does.

It's not an issue of content being taking down. If 4chan makes it explicit that legally questionable content is available here you can be sure the website will be banned by ISPs in several countries. booru sites are able to get past by that scrutiny because most people aren't aware of them.

You already have /b/ for this shit. Either take it or leave it but do take the entitlement elsewhere you insufferable disgusting weeaboo trash.
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>>340574
>>340553
>this retarded
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>>340574
>If 4chan makes it explicit that legally questionable content is available here you can be sure the website will be banned by ISPs in several countries.
Yeah, no.
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>>339890
>this insecurity
when will fuccbois learn?
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>>340581
Because ISPs aren't known to block illegal websites, uh huh.

>>340580
Cry me a river fag. Didn't hiroyuki already say pedoshit is bannable?

inb4 b-but 2D is different a bloo bloo
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>>340574
You are a fucking moron
>you insufferable disgusting weeaboo trash.
>>>Facebook
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>>340592
2d is not illegal, go cry your normalfag tears elsewhere
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>>340594
>you're wrong but I can't explain why
Keep posting. Pedotears are delicious tbqh

>>340596
>2d is not illegal
Not always true. The world isn't limited to Burgerland, unfortunately for you.
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>>340598
>The world isn't limited to Burgerland, unfortunately for you.
It's also legal in my Western country. Who cares about losing users from countries that are retarded anyway?
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>>340598
>The world isn't limited to Burgerland, unfortunately for you.
Unfortunately for you 4chan is located somewhere where loli is not illegal. This is really all that matters.
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>>340598
Only federal US law matters to 4chan. The US government cannot ban lolicon because they would open a precedent in nullifying the validity of the First Amendment.
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>>340600
Might as well bring sharia law to 4chan
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>>340592
ISPs block pirate bay and other various torrent sites, and yet that doesn't stop people from accessing them.

I'm pretty sure certain russian ISPs block 4chan as well, and yet ruskies still post here.

It would be actually quite beneficial if something like that happened, it would at least weed out the retards who can't get past an ISP block.
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>>340600
Are you upset that what those those retarded countries think are worth more than posters like you?

>>340603
>>340606
I already explained what the problem would be in >>340574, you never fail to amaze me with your mental retardation.
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>>340607
>bringing Islam to something completely unrelated
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>>340610
>I already explained what the problem would be in
But that's wrong, you fucking retard

No one takes any consideration to that argument, because it's blatantly stupid and wrong
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>>340574
> If 4chan makes it explicit that legally questionable content is available here you can be sure the website will be banned by ISPs in several countries.
You're acting like as if most countries and ISP actually do proper blocking of content. Most of the time its something stupid like DNS poisoning and if you can't get past something like that, you don't deserve to post
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>>340610
>things that don't happen, the post
Quoting your retarded fearmongering won't make it valid.
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>>340614
>>340617
>th-that's not tru ;__;
>yet I never explain how
You sound so fucking upset right now. I'll leave you guys to cry about it in this thread even though it won't go anywhere.
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>>340592
do your fucking homework next time before you spew this retarded shit, you fucking moron
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>>340592
>pedoshit is bannable
Lolis, per se? No, he said no such thing.
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>>340621
>having to explain a retard that ISP bans don't happen
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blah blah blah we all know loli shit isn't illegal in america, but it is in the rest of the civilized world.

You will never make 4chan illegal for the 70% of the userbase
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>>340738
>>340738
so don't let other countries access the board
It's not that hard.
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>>340738
>claims Americans aren't the center of the world
>thinks the Brits are instead
ayy
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>>340738
Loli is already allowed here dumbass, all we want is anplace it son't have to compete with stupid ass 'dubs decide what I _____' theads and generic porn
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>>340738
Why are anti-lolifags so desperate to not have us have our board? Do they really care that much for the rights of underage drawings?
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>>338827
There is more to loli than just the porn
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>>>/i/
/i/ - Oekaki
????
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>>340738
>loli is illegal
>cilivized
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>>340775
L, not I. Have you ever seen an uppercase letter used in this context, anon
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>>340773
This. If we got /l/ and it was SFW I would still consider it a victory, if a bit redundant
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Here's the real reason we don't have /l/, and it's simple: it would be too much work.

Illegal material would get posted there, as we've seen in the past. It would require a lot of moderator oversight in order to remain clean and tidy.

Furthermore, we'd end up having a lot more conversations with law enforcement where 4chan admins would have to politely explain why it is that we have a whole board devoted to something that is illegal in many places.

Currently, the only place it is posted is on the /b/ board where everything hosted only lives for a few hours tops. It would be fairly simple to "play innocent" in that regard if shit ever did hit the fan legally.

We are asking 4chan to assume a huge amount of legal liability, risk, and additional work just so we can sexualize the marshmallows. It's easy to understand that they don't want to go to such great pains just to accommodate a fringe interest on 4chan that none of the admins personally have any investment in.

From a strictly practical point of view, and to say nothing whatsoever of the morality of it, I understand and respect 4chan's choice here. They are always walking a delicate line legally and I can respect needing to do whatever they can to stay under the radar.
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>>340920
>that is illegal in many places.
Viewing pornography in general is illegal in many places.
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>>340863
What do you think /c/ is for, retard
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>>340920
>I didn't read the thread and I'm still spamming bullshit: the post
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>>340738
>anywhere outside of the United States of America
>civilized
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>>340738
It will improve 4chan for those in countries where loli is illegal though because all you will have to do is not go on /l/ compared to now when it is commonplace on /b/ because it doesn't have its own board
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everyone likes a little loli
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>>340943
>USA
>people who mutilate boys at birth
>civilized
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>Two Mitsuba pictures in the front page of a completely unrelated board
Congratulations my mistress, soon you'll take over 4chan.
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>>341013
So I'm not the only one who was amused by this
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I dunno. 4chan being as big as it is and with the latestmedia incidents doing the rounds I'm sure the feds would be all too happy to shit all over 4chan if a loli board got created.
Not that I don't want it to happen, just that there is a very real risk the US federal authorities will use it as a reason to permanently shut down 4chan. If hiro is smart he wouldn't take the risk, or at least move the servers to Romania or something.
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It's...some sort of loli airplane machine?
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>>341056
Why would the FBI come after loli when loli is legal under FEDERAL US law?
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>>341013
>Not preferring Futaba-chan
>Or Hitoha
>Or Sugisaki, Yuki, Miyashita, the school nurse or any of the Hopeless Squad girls
Mitsuba is literally worst girl.
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>>341134
Nah, all domoes are great
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>>341083
Sure, loli is legal inthe US. But, the FBI can spin it as being a stealth CP board, and then use that as an excuse to shutter 4chan.
I dunno, I guess I'm just being overly paranoid but I can't help but think that reviving /l/ would be the death of 4chan.
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