Will reddit ever leave?
>>587325
>/qa/ is filled with redditors
Explains everything.
Considering Nu/pol/ invites them through r/The_Donald
No
>>587325
Delete your thread
people have way too much free time these days
Unfortunately, no. Maybe if mods actually started to publicly ban them.
>>587325
they come from twitter, and reddit is a victim just like 4chan is.
>>587339
No, reddit is as much fault here.
>>587345
reddit could go down for good tomorrow and those people would still come here. There are 10x more of them on twitter than reddit and 100x more on facebook.
Hey, hey, OP. THANK you for underlining all references to 4chan, moot, and the individual boards. I mean, I would have more than likely missed all of those if I read the whole thing, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
these people know they're bitching about fucking web forums, right?
also does anyone else hate how people on reddit are super smug about everything? like, regardless of their political ideology, half the shit i've seen on reddit is usually 'lel i le trolled u look at how smart i am' followed by a meme. like seriously, in the op's pic "we did it ghazi xd", /the_donald/ "durr we spammed votes and now everyone is super redpilled lol",seriously, I know that circlejerks are unpreventable on forums, but on reddit it seems amplified as shit. Is it really just the upboats?
>>587366
>these people know they're bitching about fucking web forums, right?
You are posting on /qa/
>>587367
to be fair, most people here at least seem self-aware.
>>587325
No it won't
>>587325
>as a 4channer since 2005
I love reading posts like that, it reminds me of 1997 when I first started using 4chan :)
>>587370
DAE remember the 9/11 threads on /b/? Nevar forget
>>587366
It's like 4chan with upvotes
>>587375
the internet was so nice then. I still have many h4x0r friends that I met on /i/
No and they're trying to set up camp on /tv/ now
>>>/tv/71861131
>>587325
>you get to play as an Islamic Womam Warrior Horse Rider
>The game is realistic as fuck
What in sweet fuck am I reading here?
>>587406
I don't really care about your insecurity as a newfag, to be honest.
>>587325
>He thinks 4chan was ever good and doesn't know it's supposed to be terrible
/pol/ is a board of peace. The people that are hateful are only a small minority.
>>587331
>Delete your thread
Delete your post
>>587325
Yeah when Trump wins the election.
>>587474
No, then they stay and shitpost about how "meme magic" is real and act like a bunch of niggers.
>>587475
I think you have /pol/ confused with reddit users.
The only part of Reddit that does that is /r/the_donald (which is arguably filled with more /pol/ users than Reddit users), which the rest of Reddit hates with a passion.
>>587479
Meme magic is real. QEK (pbuh) has foretold trumps glorious victory.
>>587479
/pol/ is filled with redditards, there's been a huge influx of users to the board.
>>587485
>Implying that's a bad thing
Once /pol/ grabs you it doesn't let go
>>587485
>it's a "I dont like it so it's Reddit" episode
Thanks for giving whiners some ammo whenever I try to tell actual Reddit users to fuck off. You're really doing your part in improving the site.
>>587493
Are you playing retarded or are you actually retarded? Because there are fucking redditors on /pol/ and they are ruining the site. They're coming from that goddamn colony.
>>587495
If you want to blame a board for Reddit users coming in take a look at /v/, /tv/, and /co/. Those boards are welcoming to them and panders to them. Where do you think all of the anti-anime posters came from? Because it sure as fuck isnt /pol/, the board that slaps a "make america great again" hat on every anime pic they see.
>>587498
>Because it sure as fuck isnt /pol/, the board that slaps a "make america great again" hat on every anime pic they see.
That's just as bad as the anti-anime posters you fucking cuck. /pol/ is a sinking ship filled with goddamn rodents and you're too damn blind to see that.
>>587502
>you fucking cuck
>>>/rebbit/
>>587503
>>>/r/eddit and go back, /pol/ is filled with them and it's ruining the quality of the board.
>>587504
You have to go back
>>587505
I ain't the filthy faggot who thinks /pol/ is perfectly fine as it is right now.
>as a 4channer since 2005... 4chan was apolitical... "lol happy nigga"
Do these retards really think if they read some bullshit ED articles that they can pretend that they're "oldfags"?
The "playful" racism article is definitely disingenuous, people hated "niggers" on /b/ since as early as 2004. (These people aren't from 2004/2005, which is why they claim these things since they can "appeal to oldfaggotry" to a bunch of redditors that heard about 4chan in 2011. 98% of people who used 4chan in 2004-2005 don't post here anymore. Even I rarey post at all anymore.)
They also act like "/pol/" is the hive of racism. I like how this guy mentions "/fur/", then /vp/ and /mlp/. What this definitely shows is that he wasn't around on 4chan that long ago. Nobody fucking brings up /fur/ except ED reading newfags who think that it's hilarious. All this shows is that he has been around since maybe /vp/ but probably /mlp/ because he mentioned them, instead of /n/ and /new/, the predessors of /pol/ that were just as fucking racist.
Remember "PROUD CONSERVATIVE" on /n/?
Of course they don't, because they're lying.
Any argument trying to make it seem like 4chan hasn't always been the hive of racists is a fucking idiot. The hate of niggers, jews and muslims was no different 10 years ago then it was today.
The only reason they think /pol/ has "taken" over the site is because most boards are going back to the original "/_/ is /b/ but with anime" format they had in the early years.
I can prove that I've been around since 2004 but I'm on my phone at work and I'll have to do it later
>>587490
It's without a doubt a bad thing. A large group isn't going to assimilate naturally so they will end up being meme-obsessed punks who don't care about post quality. I hope that /pol/ will rebound after the election.
>>587493
What. Have you even seen the activity trend the last months? /pol/ has more than doubled in size, with a clear surge after the reddit colony was created. You can't conclude that the growth has been a natural result of the election getting more intensive.
>>587379
>forgetting about sage bombs
>people honestly used sage as a downvote
Every forum is like this. Image boards are not except from this kind of behavior.
>>587529
>exempt
Excuse me.
>>587328
So nice of you to join us.
For fucks sake, explain this bullshit, /pol/.
>>587325
no, and you'll be sitting here for years on end crying reddit to every newfag while the site goes down the shitter.
There are no good old days to go back to or good days ahead. Might as well abandon ship now and leave this rotting site to its fate.
>>587498
Except /v/ really isn't that anit-anime as it was a few months ago. People got sick of their shit and rebelled against them. Now they normally shut their mouths whenever they get cornered
>>587598
All of those anti-western threads must've had an effect because they usually contained good arguments as to why the western videogame industry is cancer.
>>587498
>Because it sure as fuck isnt /pol/, the board that slaps a "make america great again" hat on every anime pic they see.
Again with this garbage?
If you like anime you do not turn it into political slogans for your preferred political candidate. Ask /a/ or /jp/ what they think of this and before you are banned they will rightfully insult you for being so cancerous and disrespectful towards the characters and their creators.
>>587633
>/pol/ is the one being disrespectful to anime waifus
>>587649
FUCK OFF
THIS WAS PROBABLY DONE BY AN AMERICAN TOO
>>587651
>not recognizing Ruggarell. /v/'s house nigger shitposter
Newfag detected.
>>587498
/a/ and /jp/ generally fucking hate people that do that.
>>587652
I don't use /v/ you fucking cancer
Hang yourself immediately
>>587654
I said /v/ because it's his home board, but he posts on /a/ as well, and people recognize him too.
>>587633
>Ask /a/ or /jp/ what they think of this and before you are banned they will rightfully insult you for being so cancerous and disrespectful towards the characters and their creators
As opposed to the freaks who do erotic roleplaying or avatarfagging with the characters or masturbate to disgusting fetishist porn of then? I think a hat does no real harm compared to that.
FWI I know who is this character: she's Holo from Spice and Wolf, one of my favorite anime, and I asked the hat to be put on her myself.
>>587656
Well I take it back, you don't have to hang yourself immediately
>>587660
That hat is fucking branding, and cringey too
Watch what happens if someone takes every trump hat anime picture and adds a 9gag watermark
>>587660
*FYI
>>587660
>erotic roleplaying or avatarfagging with the characters or masturbate to disgusting fetishist porn of then
Yeah I don't really care what they do because they don't do shit like this.
https://youtu.be/lCEv9zJT0Co?t=1860
How about you keep your shitty politics and memes where they belong.
>>587665
Thanks. This is going straight in trump general
>>587666
>links video
>IT'S 44 MINUTES LONG
>>587668
Are you retarded? There's a timestamp on the link, copy and paste it, don't use the embed function when you see that.
xD
>>587672
Theoretically you could do that with everything
>>587672
But would they care? Or is that exactly why you want to do it?
>>587660
>fapping to a 2D character does "harm" because it's so weird and freaky xd
>trying to drag american politics and memes into japanese cartoons is "harmless" because they're so dank
>>587679
When they realise half of their images are 9gagged they will
>>587681
>he thinks this has a real effect on the real world and people just don't do it for fun
Honestly, this all started because of Rick Wilson calling /pol/ "childless single men who masturbate to anime", so they just played along. Blame him.
>>587693
Let me correct myself: /pol/ AND Trump voters (yes, he was retarded enough to think people from a chinese cartoon website were Trump's main supporters).
>>587693
>>587696
When did I say it has an effect on the real world? I just want you guys to keep your 3D shit out of my 2D shit. Why is that so hard to understand? Nobody likes people babbling about politics or political memes when you're talking about something that has absolutely nothing to do with it, see >>587666
I don't give a shit what Rick Wilson said or how "retarded" it was, and rightfully so, anime has jack-all to do with american politics. Whether it's done as a joke or seriously, putting hats on characters brands them as political. Get that shit out of here.
>>587700
>Whether it's done as a joke or seriously, putting hats on characters brands them as political
But to be really branded as "political" it would need to have an influence on IRL politics and I don't think it does. It's just silly meme 4chan shit.
>>587709
The effect it has is shitting up the community. You don't think SJW-types do the exact same thing with anime sometimes, branding characters with political messages or their own memes? It has just as little of an effect, mind you, because anything related to anime doesn't matter in the scheme of american politics, but it doesn't make it any less shitty.
And don't dismiss it as "silly memes." Like I said, jokingly or not, it's still political and it's still garbage that should be discouraged. At best it brings nothing of value whatsoever to the community and is just annoying and out of place, and at worst it derails discussions and is a goddamn embarrassment.
>>587709
>But to be really branded as "political" it would need to have an influence on IRL politics and I don't think it does.
For better or worse, politicking on forums is part of the "real world" now, whether it happens on Twitter or Reddit or even 4chan. Whatever medium they choose, people who consider themselves political have the goal of spreading their message. It's just how politics is.
>>587724
Whatever, I still think you're taking it too seriously since it's just a meme that was born due to an idiot politician saying retarded shit on live TV. It was a natural reaction, people didn't think "wow, let's start putting hats on anime characters and making other memes related to Trump and anime to strengthen our movement". That's too ridiculous even for 4chan's standards.
>>587731
>"wow, let's start putting hats on anime characters and making other memes related to Trump and anime to strengthen our movement".
Except that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is american politics have nothing to do with japanese cartoons.
I'm saying that this hat shit is just a symptom of a greater trend of people trying to push politics - whether as a joke or seriously - onto my goddamn hobbies when it's completely irrelevant - in this case, it's not even in the same country or culture.
Whether it's done "ironically" or as a "joke" doesn't change that it's fucking annoying. You think that I think the guy in the ZUN panel was being serious? Of course he was joking, it didn't make me want to throw him out of the room any less.
You're welcome to dismiss me with a "whatever" and continue on perpetuating this garbage, I didn't expect to convince someone who's so clearly out of touch with the culture that they think jerking off to 2D fetishes is freaky and weird when the entire culture revolves around escapism.
>>587734
But you have to understand that it wasn't something forced or driven by an actual political agenda unlike the comparison you made with SJWs associating leftist shit with anime on tumblr. It was an innocent natural reaction to an extremely idiotic statement made on live TV by a neocon politician who hated Trump and tried to use this as smear campaign against him.
>I didn't expect to convince someone who's so clearly out of touch with the culture that they think jerking off to 2D fetishes is freaky and weird when the entire culture revolves around escapism.
I think you got me wrong there. I masturbate to 2D characters too but not to those extremely degrading fetishes that are somewhat common in the otaku community. That was what I was referring to mostly. If people see "shipping" as disrespecting and degrading to the characters then the same should apply to disgusting fetishes involving them as well.
>>587746
>But you have to understand that it wasn't something forced or driven by an actual political agenda
>cognitive dissonance
>>587734
>whether as a joke or seriously - onto my goddamn hobbies when it's completely irrelevant
yeah and whats really fucking two faced and hypocritical about it is the same people pushing the politically bullcrap down everyone's throat complain about sjw doing the same,
I mean what kind fucking mental gymnastics do these people employ?
>>587747
It was a joke entirely based on the statement made by Rick Wilson. No one ever had the intentional of making anime politically associated with Trunp or the "alt-right".
>>587746
>It was an innocent natural reaction to an extremely idiotic statement made on live TV by a neocon politician who hated Trump and tried to use this as smear campaign against him.
Okay, so what does this have to do with anime? Nothing, so fuck off with it. I don't know why I need to keep repeating this - it has to do with american politics (some american politician saying some retarded shit) and therefore I don't care because it has nothing to with anime.
You keep insisting that it's a joke, and I've said over and over again that I know it's usually a joke, and I don't care, because it still brings absolutely nothing of value at its best and derails/shits up discussions at worst.
Also, you're also delusional if you don't think some hatposters aren't politically motivated.
>I think you got me wrong there. I masturbate to 2D characters too but not to those extremely degrading fetishes that are somewhat common in the otaku community.
If you're disgusted by the "otaku" community (fun fact: nobody on this site is part of it, and most of the material on those "disgusting fetishes" are produced by people that are part of the culture) then you're basically proving my point about being out of touch with the culture and you can fuck right off.
>>587750
Very few people on 4chan give a shit about Rick Wilson. If it were all about Rick Wilson and trolling people who are fans of Rick Wilson you'd confine that shit to threads about him. This does not happen. It gets posted everywhere, all over the internet and all over threads and boards which have fucking nothing to do with him, for the purpose of supporting the presidential candidate Trump and making fun of the cuckolds who don't.
>>587753
The time for any sort of "joke" there might have been has long since passed. If you're posting it today, a whole half year after it has ceased to be irrelevant, you're doing it to push a political point.
>>587752
>If you're disgusted by the "otaku" community (fun fact: nobody on this site is part of it, and most of the material on those "disgusting fetishes" are produced by people that are part of the culture) then you're basically proving my point about being out of touch with the culture and you can fuck right off.
There's literally nothing wrong with disliking things you find disgusting. Some people don't like scat. Some people don't like guro. Some people don't even like things as vanilla as everyday rape.
The people who produce these doujinshi are some of the most dedicated fans of the series they are, real otaku, but nothing indicates that you have to like what they do.
>>587752
>because it still brings absolutely nothing of value at its best and derails/shits up discussions at worst.
Where do you see that happen? I go on /a/ and it's not that common to see anime girls wearing Trump hats there. It's mostly limited to /pol/ because the meme is exclusive to there since /a/ has nothing to do with politics.
>Also, you're also delusional if you don't think some hatposters aren't politically motivated
In what way? They're not doing a good job if so because I'm not seeing this extend to real world politics besides a few dedicated autists making those awoo pins for example, but that's mostly a joke in my opinion too.
>If you're disgusted by the "otaku" community
I have to admit I am and I consider myself as just an average anime fan who watches anime regularly and doesn't have a strong obsession with it. What's wrong with that anyway?
>>587754
The meme evolved into something slightly bigger over time, but I still don't see as seriously being part of a political movement.
>>587758
Just because a political movement is silly and subcultural doesn't make it not political.
Anime girls wearing swastika armbands or red star caps might actually be a non-political meme because we all know that very few of the people posting these are genuinely Nazis or communists. But 100% of people who post anime girls wearing MAGA hats are Trump supporters. You do the math.
>>587761
Still, I don't think they're doing it so to push an actual political narrative. That would be shooting yourself in the foot since it would make people take you less seriously.
>>587755
There's a difference between "It's not my cup of tea" and calling them "degrading" and "freaks."
>>587757
>Where do you see that happen? I go on /a/ and it's not that common to see anime girls wearing Trump hats there. It's mostly limited to /pol/ because the meme is exclusive to there since /a/ has nothing to do with politics.
I literally posted a video of someone doing trump memes at ZUN's AX panel. This shit is all part of the same thing and it all needs to go and stay go. When you hatpost, it signals to many that it's okay to bring politics in, even if you did it as a joke. If you browse /a/, then just look at that DN thread the other day. Pure garbage. That's the kind of "discussions" you allow to persist by indicating that mixing american politics - even as a joke - with anime, is okay.
>In what way? They're not doing a good job if so because I'm not seeing this extend to real world politics besides a few dedicated autists making those awoo pins for example, but that's mostly a joke in my opinion too.
Of course they're not doing a good job, it's fucking japanese cartoons, they're (definitely) delusional if they think it has any effect whatsoever on american politics. They don't need to have an effect to be politically motivated. In the end, no matter how much you try to spin this as inconsequential or harmless to real life politics, it doesn't change anything. I don't give a shit about american politics so that's not my concern. It has to do with american politics, and it's being forced into japanese cartoons.
>I have to admit I am and I consider myself as just an average anime fan who watches anime regularly and doesn't have a strong obsession with it. What's wrong with that anyway?
If you're admittedly just a casual fan then don't handwave off my concerns about shitting up the community when you're clearly not invested in it. It's not something even limited to just /a/, or even just 4chan.
>>587777
forgot pic
>>587773
>There's a difference between "It's not my cup of tea" and calling them "degrading" and "freaks."
Eating shit is degrading. Summoning a bunch of cooks to rape your friend senseless is degrading (to both characters). You don't have to look very hard to find things that are degrading.
I'll reserve judgment on the people themselves but I'll think as lowly of their work as I please.
>>587784
You know what's actually degrading? Pushing a political narrative onto these characters.
Oh wait, it's just an epic meme xD
In any case, many of those artists draw other things as well, so even ignoring the "degrading" art, they're still contributing to the culture. Which is more than I can say for hatposters.
>I'll reserve judgment on the people
You mean except for the part where you called them freaks in your very first post. A word like that even entering your consideration indicates that you are indeed passing judgment on them.
This thread is based on a really stupid premise.
>>587773
>If you browse /a/, then just look at that DN thread the other day. Pure garbage. That's the kind of "discussions" you allow to persist by indicating that mixing american politics - even as a joke - with anime, is okay.
Well, I don't do any of that and I think people who post off-topic political shit there should be banned. I keep that shit and all the memes that were born based on it on /pol/ because they don't make sense outside of it. I don't think I ever posted any Trump hat wearing anime girls on /a/ despite having a decent collection of them because they weren't relevant to the discussion unlike on /pol/.
And I think you should still put the blame on the person who made the idiotic statement and caused the birth of the meme instead of the Trump supporters on /pol/ because I don't think they had any malicious intent when making those memes.
>If you're admittedly just a casual fan then don't handwave off my concerns about shitting up the community when you're clearly not invested in it. It's not something even limited to just /a/, or even just 4chan.
I said I'm not an otaku and don't like the otaku community because I don't have an unhealthy obsession with anime to be properly considered one, but that doesn't mean I'm a "casual" who watches mainstream pleb garbage like Naruto and SnK. I use the free time for my anime watching and manga reading hours well. I'm quite acknowledged with it.
>>587792
>You know what's actually degrading? Pushing a political narrative onto these characters.
One thing being degrading does not preclude another from being degrading. Political narratives are rather irritating because they don't respect the divide between, the real and the fake, but I've read my share of doujinshi that offer political opinions at some point or another
>Which is more than I can say for hatposters.
Being a creator is not a prerequisite to being a critic.
>You mean except for the part where you called them freaks in your very first post.
That was someone else.
>>587796
>I don't think I ever posted any Trump hat wearing anime girls on /a/ despite having a decent collection of them because they weren't relevant to the discussion unlike on /pol/.
Whether you're starting the discussions is irrelevant because you're enabling it. You like anime, I get it. You're interested in politics too, that's fine as well. That doesn't mean you should try to force them together.
>And I think you should still put the blame on the person who made the idiotic statement and caused the birth of the meme instead of the Trump supporters on /pol/ because I don't think they had any malicious intent when making those memes.
I will absolutely blame Trump supporters on /pol/ when people start spouting the same narrative in places completely unrelated to politics. You're naive if you think it doesn't spill over into other boards, and as far as I'm concerned, you're all part of the same group.
>I said I'm not an otaku and don't like the otaku community because I don't have an unhealthy obsession with anime to be properly considered one, but that doesn't mean I'm a "casual" who watches mainstream pleb garbage like Naruto and SnK.
You can absolutely watch and read more than what gets published in shounen magazines and still be considered casual. I'm not using the word as an insult, I only brought it up after you said something to that effect yourself.
>>587807
>Political narratives are rather irritating because they don't respect the divide between, the real and the fake, but I've read my share of doujinshi that offer political opinions at some point or another
Absolutely - I don't think Shiruka Bakaudon has drawn anything that didn't have some kind of social commentary attached. However, that's about Japanese politics, not American.
>Being a creator is not a prerequisite to being a critic
I didn't say that to imply it was a prerequisite. I'm saying hatposters are of less value to the community than those artists.
>That was someone else.
Fair enough
>>587815
>You're interested in politics too, that's fine as well. That doesn't mean you should try to force them together.
Jesus man. Are you even listening to what I'm saying it? It wasn't forced. It was a natural reaction. No one would ever make the association if not for Rick Wilson's words.
>I will absolutely blame Trump supporters on /pol/ when people start spouting the same narrative in places completely unrelated to politics
I already said I think people who do that should be banned.
>You're naive if you think it doesn't spill over into other boards, and as far as I'm concerned, you're all part of the same group
How am I "part of the same group" of people who do that if I never bring any of it to any board besides /pol/? And I don't see it happening very often as you seem to be claiming. You're blowing it out proportion.
>>587825
>How am I "part of the same group" of people who do that if I never bring any of it to any board besides /pol/?
Easy, if you aren't with the program your the enemy. Simple shit.
>>587826
>I get lumped together with shitposters who don't stay on-topic even though I only keep the Trump memes and political discussions on /pol/
That's not very nice. I literally dindu nuffin.
>>587825
>Jesus man. Are you even listening to what I'm saying it? It wasn't forced. It was a natural reaction. No one would ever make the association if not for Rick Wilson's words.
Both of you are mixing american politics with anime, I don't give a shit who "started it," I hate both of you fucks.
>I already said I think people who do that should be banned.
Again, I know you don't directly engage in that kind of shitposting, but shit like hatposting enables behavior like that. It's a fucking meme, of course it's going to spread. That's what memes do. You can't just say "oh but we'll just keep it on this specific board and everyone will listen" because they aren't going to listen.
>How am I "part of the same group" of people who do that if I never bring any of it to any board besides /pol/? And I don't see it happening very often as you seem to be claiming. You're blowing it out proportion.
So you say, but this is just my word against yours at this point as for how widespread it is. At the very least, we had yet another thread today that had to be deleted for the same retarded reason, and that's not counting all the occasional passing mentions of that kind of shit in other threads.
In any case, I didn't say you're part of the same group, what I meant by "as far as I'm concerned" is that I don't give a shit, one group feeds into the other. Look at >>587780
and tell me I'm wrong when I say you can't contain that kind of shit when it becomes a meme.
>>587829
So? You endorse that type of behavior and you endorse those little shits running around and posting that fucking garbage. Fuck your dindu nuffin attitude, you did everything wrong.
>>587325
I hate plebbit so fucking much. They only shit up boards and then go back to Red.dit to complain about the boards being shit.
>>587843
No shit.
>>587512
You honestly thin that a bunch of 16 year olds who founded old /b/ weren't going to change 11 years later?
