In all seriousness, /q/, why is hate speech still tolerated on 4chan?
Shouldn't we moderate it at least on blue boards?
>>576152
You wanna get decked?
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
Go away.
Gas the bikes
>>576152
>hate speech
It's called FREE speech, ya Communist faggot
>>576176
>le hate speech and free speech are the same thing maeymaey
wew lad
'Hate speech' is code for 'holocaust denial,' in my experience.
>>576152
mate I don't like /pol/ either, but everyone should have the right to deny the holocaust or call your waifu a shit
>>576236
>everyone should have the right to deny crucial historical facts
>>576626
yes
>>576152
Because you're a fucking nigger who needs to go away
>>576626
It may shock you to know that the Early Middle Ages didn't happen. It has actually only been 1700 years since 0 AD; during the 7th century, several major world leaders conspired to add 300 fake years to the calendar, in order to bolster their own legitimacy.
Spread the word!
>>576636
Wow, the internet really IS serious business!
>>576236
/pol/ isn't a blue board, OP's suggestion wouldn't affect it and you'd still have the right to be edgy, you'd just have a special place for that.
>>576642
>>>/reddit/
go make an account anon, you can then find people who are just like you
>>576646
This. If you like crap, stay in your own containment board and don't crap the rest of 4chan as well. Hate speech should be banned on blue boards on the basis of decrapping this blog.
>>576647
That meme stopped being funny like two years ago.
>>576647
you probably browse /b/ don't you, you sad underage cunt
haha fucking pathetic
>>576658
>/pol/
so again, you sad underage cunt
>>576659
Mate im 20, you're the underaged one here
>>576664
>20
mate you're barely old enough to post, fuck off you absolute runt
you shouldn't be able to post until you're 21
>>576652
I'm not even the quoted, but: fuck off, redditor.
>>576664
You could be 35, it doesnt matter. Anyone that wants to moderate "hate speech" is a fucking toddler that needs to go back to Twitter.
>>576152
fucking kill yourself
>>576688
no you misunderstand, he's the one that doesn't want to moderate hate speech
but he still has the mind of a child considering he browses /pol/
>>576692
Nice reading comprehension dumbass.
>>576152
>In all seriousness, /q/, why is hate speech still tolerated on 4chan?
"hate speech" is a flawed and outmoded term which generally describes words that cause overt outrage in groups of people. There is nothing inherently wrong with the words, but there is fault in becoming so incensed by mere phrases that you disrupt the normal flow of conversation here with standard per-programed kneejerk reactionary displays.
>Shouldn't we moderate it at least on blue boards?
No. We should moderate people who freak out over words from anonymous internet posters instead.
>>576678
Reminder that commies hated gays and that big corporations are the ones pushing for speech regulation. Stop believing /pol/.
>>576702
This. I don't know why /pol/ thinks everything is a gommunist conspiracy when the problem is clearly capitalism.
http://qz.com/438868/same-sex-marriage-billion-dollar-wedding-economy-boom/
>>576715
because /pol/ doesn't read, half the fuckers never read articles in the op of a thread but post anyways
>>576719
Rightism is a mental illness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLHMhQIk2vY
>>576152
I think hate speech is usually off topic. Now, if you wanna hate on black cartoon characters and how they're drawn and portrayed, etc, on /co/, sure. But hating on black people in general on /co/ is absolute bullshit. Does that make sense?
That all being said, I think /pol/, /b/, /trash/, /r9k/, /s4s/, and any other board where Hate Speech is a reasonable topic of discussion definitely shouldn't outlaw it. /lgbt/ is a great place to spread hatespeech about gender identity and sexual orientation. /int/ is a great place to spread hatespeech about nationality and race. Meanwhile, hate speech on /tg/ should probably be reserved for racism against Orcs and Dwarves and Elves and shit, and not against African Americans unless we're specifically in a thread about some modern setting that takes place in USA.
At least this is my opinion on the matter.
>>576743
>/trash/
That hate speech better be about how much you hate Earth Ponies or about how Foxes are a bunch of fucking slutty bitches.
>>576743
>/s4s/, and any other board where Hate Speech is a reasonable topic of discussion
>>576743
fuck off nigger
>>576751
Sorry, I meant [s4s] and [r9k]
>>576758
that doesn't change anything
"Hate Speech" is never discussed on [s4s]
literally nothing is discussed on [s4s]
>>576760
everything is discussed on [s4s].
have you been using the
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>>576760
I don't see why that's a problem. It's not against the rules to talk about hate speech on a place where there's no set topic. You can talk about hate speech on /gif/ and /wsg/ too, since there's no set topic there either.
/v/, /co/, /a/, the boards that have an actual topic should really stay on topic though.
These "I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SHITPOST" threads always ignore that there are places for shitposting where shitposting is allowed.
>>576152
We should moderate you communist fucks
>>576765
I don't think you get it buddy. There's no "talking about" anything on [s4s]. You can type up whatever well written paragraph you want, but the replies will be "good double" and "cowe"
>>576768
nice singles
>>576759
>people who slightly agree are the same person
not even a commie desu
>>576772
no you are, you are a shill who's being posting these threads for the past two fucking weeks promoting left ideals to try and sway the opinions of this board, i want to gouge out your eyeballs for all the useless posts like this thread you have made
>>576775
shit I wish I got paid for posting opinions, where do I sign up
>>576778
fuck off cunt i hate you
>>576768
Isn't that the response you SHOULD get when posting hatespeech?
>>576775
Anon, do you actually think there's only one person on the planet that disagrees with you, and that he follows you around?
>>576780
sorry, got to go read The Communist Manifesto and post about Hillary on /pol/
>/q/
Kill yourself
>>576783
No, but i believe there are people who disagree with the general opinion of this site and wish to change it
>>576786
Well "Are people" isn't the same as "All the same person." You were accusing a bunch of people of being the same guy. Now you're already admitting that there are multiple. Don't throw around samefag so flippantly.
>>576787
There are different people creating multiple threads but in a single thread (aka this one) we have you
There's not a single instance of hate speech ever actually harming anyone. It's just an excuse to censor public opinion. The state says you're only allowed to hold certain beliefs and if you ever dare express something counter to it they will throw you in prison. What they call hate speech is more accurately termed dissent. Countries with hate speech laws have precedent for outlawing dissent against the state, and their people still think they are free.
>>576794
So? It's still off topic on 4chan.
>>576790
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>576803
>Basically I'm saying that hatespeech is off topic on most boards, and on topic on some other boards.
No you are a blatant SJW shill >>576786 trying to ruin freedom of speech under the guise of 'off topic'
>I'm also saying that I'm not the same person as the other Anons >>576759 (You) has been accusing of being samefags.
Stop lying to my face cunt
>>576152
Oh no! Did somebody hurt your wittle feefees? Don't worry, there are plenty of child friendly websites you can go visit until you're old enough for this one.
>>576814
4chan has never been a place about free speech. /b/ is a place about free speech, but the REST of 4chan isn't. There are parts of this site that are the wild west where you can do whatever you want, and then there are other parts that are ordered, or at least try to be ordered.
I'm telling you that you can post all the hate speech you want on /pol/, /b/, /trash/, /s4s/, /r9k/, /int/, /lgbt/, /gif/, /wsg/, and any other place where the discussion of gender, race, whatever is actually a topic of discussion, and that you shouldn't post about shit that isn't the board topic on boards with a different topic.
Let's pretend for a moment that we aren't talking about hatespeech and instead we're talking about Ponies. Ponies are only allowed on /mlp/, and also /trash/. You're allowed to post as much pony shit on /mlp/ and /trash/ as you like, but not anywhere else. Is this hard to understand?
>>576823
>4chan has never been a place about free speech
>every single user is anonymous
>>576827
Allow me to elucidate a very simple concept to you.
https://www.4chan.org/rules
This is a page that actually exists.
https://www.4chan.org/bans
This is a page that actually exists.
People, on 4chan, get banned for breaking rules, and these rules govern how you're allowed to speak. Speech is restricted here.
Is there anything untrue about what I've said?
>>576833
>>576833
So hate speech is as bad as child porn?
Kill yourself.
>>576837
No, actually. Child porn is worse than hate speech. Hate speech is as bad as posting off topic low quality posts though, because that's exactly what it is.
Child porn is far more egregious and applies to a different category in the reporting system. "Hate speech" is merely a "Rule violation". "Child porn" is "Illegal Content".
Now answer my question. Is speech restricted on 4chan in any way? Given that there are rules regarding how you're allowed to talk, and you can be banned for breaking them?
>>576848
>No, actually. Child porn is worse than hate speech. Hate speech is as bad as posting off topic low quality posts though, because that's exactly what it is.
i beg to differ from what you've been saying
>>576852
Alright. What is your justification for differing?
>>576848
Oy vey shut up about this hate speech stuff, if a black called you a little dick ass white cracka inbred bitch you wouldnt say shit you liberal faggot.
>>576855
If he said it on 4chan outside of my previously listed boards where that sort of discussion is perfectly acceptable, I'd report it.
>>576854
why should i bother explaining to you when you've just been doing it for this entire thread dumb cunt?
seriously arguing with you fucking shills is like talking to a parrot
>>576861
I'm not asking you to explain why you think that hate speech is fine, I'm asking you to justify why you think 4chan is a free speech site despite tremendous evidence to the contrary.
I'm saying that PART of 4chan is a free speech site, and you're saying ALL of it is.
What is your justification that ALL of 4chan is a free speech site, despite there being rules restricting your ability to speak?
>>576866
because no one cares about your feelings, that's why
>>576871
My feelings in particular are the linchpin that upturns the definition of free speech and makes it so that 4chan can restrict speech while still being a free speech website?
I didn't realize how important I was to the universe, Anon.
>>576871
>because no one cares about your feelings, that's why
The mods do, given that they remove obvious racebait on most of the hobby boards.
>>576892
What does me being the one that's complaining have anything to do with you being wrong, Anon? Do you think facts stop being facts when somebody you disagree with presents them to you?
Have you never lost an argument before? Take a deep breath. It's not so bad. It lets you learn and grow as a person.
>>576895
>What does me being the one that's complaining have anything to do with you being wrong, Anon?
Because you're the only one here complaining, why should we cater to a single person who's feelings are hurt?
>Do you think facts stop being facts when somebody you disagree with presents them to you?
This was never an argument, i was just pointing out your obvious left bait shilling
>Have you never lost an argument before?
No dipshit
>>576904
Anon, you clearly aren't listening to what I'm saying.
Let's try this a third time. You seem afraid to answer this question. Don't be scared. You're anonymous. Nothing bad will happen to you. Nobody's going to remember how bad you got owned.
Given that this page exists: https://www.4chan.org/rules does 4chan restrict speech?
>>576152
Because banning it would fix nothing.
Trying to get rid of bad ideas by hushing them up has never worked in the history of mankind
>>576152
We already do. Report it.
>>576917
No, those rules are mainly there to stop the feds from breathing down Hiroshima's neck
>>576940
https://www.4chan.org/bans
Are these bans doled out because of the feds breathing down Hiroshima Nagasaki's neck?
>>576945
although most of those are for petty shit like spamming shill threads and racebaiting basically yes
your a fucking idiot by the way i can't resist letting you know but you don't really seem to care about the facts i've put forward
i honestly do not wish to argue with you anymore, it's really like taking to a parrot
>>576954
You haven't put any facts forward. You've asserted positions and backed them up with absolutely nothing. The only justification for your thoughts is that you're the one who thought them.
You're free to stop arguing at any point. See you around. I'm sure you'll see "me" before I see you though, as you're convinced that I follow you around and shill in every thread you post in.
>>576957
Very well although i disagree with everything about me not having facts
Stop shilling on Chan, you really don't belong here
>>576152
nice false flag /pol/
>>576958
Maybe you just have a definition of the word "fact" and I'm just not understanding you properly because you speak a strange dialect of English you made up.
What does "fact" mean to you? Does it mean "A feeling that is held by me in particular"? Because that's the only way you have any facts to back up your claims.
>>576963
There's de jure and de facto. The rules clearly state a restriction, but the moderation is very inconsistent in following it up. Meanwhile the general attitude of the population is inclined towards free speech. See what you want is for the rules to be strictly enforced when most people couldn't give a damn. Blue boards may be supposed to be SFW, but in practice this is not the same SFW that applies to normal forums.
>>577145
Are you saying that the existence of lawbreaking ne'er-do-wells makes 4chan a free speech zone, even though the moderators and admins don't wish it to be?
Is this logic unique to 4chan or are there other websites, such as Reddit, Youtube, and Twitter, where this also applies?
I hate that this obvious bait thread received this many replies.
The old /qa/ is never coming back, is it?
