Hey Hiro can we get some new mods on /a/? The current one doesn't cares about the board at all.
We should have a thread here basically 24/7 demonstrating absence/incompetence as we see it pop up. We had one going for a while a few months back and it was actually pretty nice in that it got some shit threads deleted.
>>>/a/141629913
>>>/a/141619774
>>>/a/141627950
There was a GoT thread exactly like the one linked yesterday which got 404'ed yet it's been up for hours today.
>>533114
Seriously this. I'm getting sick of Troid, and I know its Troid because Troid doesn't even watch anime and he's a shit mod at that. Something needs to be done about this. /a/ is usually the best board on here and I don't want to see this faggot ass mod fuck it up
>>>/a/141631545
More off-topic garbage not deleted thanks to Troid jacking it to ponioes
https://twitter.com/hiroyuki_ni/
Remember to tweet at Hiro. He needs to start getting in contact with the mods regularly and now
>>533127
Oh look the mod deleted it, and it only took them posting images of Troid to do so. Guess that's what you have to do now
>>533116
Well finally that GoT threads is gone after four hours of being up.
Seriously its like the only way to delete a thread is to post images of the mods now. That is just how incompetent things are around here.
>>533135
Can you post some pictures of mods here? Besides Troid.
>>533116
>it actually worked
Still not sure about having a /qa/ thread up at all time since it bring out shitposters to /a/ thinking that since we don't have mods they can freely shitpost with no problem and having their thread up for hours.
>>>/a/141632777
MAL has always been delete-on-sight. If you need an official reason, it's a form of advertising.
>>533141
Well, there are plenty of shit threads lately without such a thread being here anyway, and it seems at least one person who gives a fuck watches this board. So if it doesn't hurt to let them know then might as well.
Also some food for thought if we're gonna rag on moderation policy. If Hiro cares about traffic he should know that forcing /a/ to lower its standards does the opposite of expected to traffic. There are countless gentle, newfag-friendly pleb hubs for anime out there; /a/ just doesn't want to be one of them.
>>533141
Generals are still more or less immune to moderation, though.
>>>/a/141636986
>>533157
Your graph suggests they should do the opposite. If catering to newfags causes a decrease in traffic then /a/ ought to be completely neutered and opened up to anybody. This way traffic will decrease leading to a slower and more manageable board as it was before 2009.
>>533234
/a/ is already much slower than it was a few years back and yet many would agree 2015 was worse than 14 in quality. The figure pinpoints the slowdown sources as being the fucking mindblowingly stupid decisions shitting on /a/ standards, which clearly drove off people with higher ideals for the board away in disgust. That's just inexcusable. Part of the root cause of these idiotic changes were sophistry-laden posts just like yours, always trying to push for newfag accommodations as somehow a good thing, when clearly it's not helped the place at all in any way. Board users are not satisfied, traffic (hence ad revenue) is lower, fuck you.
What needs to be encouraged is for those better people to come back and feel at home. /a/ could/should be the fucking nexus of the Western anime scene. You do not get to hold that power by talking about Naruto a lot. Any fucking retarded forum filled with 13 year olds can do that; that's not special. /a/ should be controlled by people who really, really know their shit rather than feeling like we're in a daily fight on our own turf with plebs who don't understand the medium and whine hard (on places like /qa/ actually) about being criticized for their casual habits and tastes.
Lots of porn and other shit still stays up. It's just a lack of moderation for the entire board.
Also, that awful Keit-Ai meme. It's going to get worse before it gets better, since another Shinkai movie is coming out. Please, mods, deal with the reposting/spamming (which I politely remind you is a bannable offense).
>>533319
/a/ will always be elitist till the end, and no faggot mod like Troid is going to change that. He's the one that wants more normalfags to be on the board. If you've ever seen what he looks like he's a hipster faggot that doesn't' even watch anime, he's a big MLP fan, and he literally is the king of beta's.
>>533319
Also you mentioned traffic decreasing, and I believe that is an issue that needs to be brought up to Hiro. Traffic decreased because the mods began making more and more brain dead decisions since moot left, driving people off of 4chan and onto 8Gag. Unfortunately the mods don't seem to care one bit about all of this since all they want and crave is total power over other people.
We need a serious change in power on 4chan. And that starts with getting rid of the mods who will not listen to anything Hiro says and constantly go behind his back. Mods like these include whoever moderates /co/, the mods of /v/, Troid and Swaglord/Invisibro. ALTERNATIVE is another mod that needs to go as well. We have to seriously begin rooting out the bad mods and start bringing in mods who actually care about 4chan.
Also, get rid of global mods. This is a massive problem with this site, because mods switch boards constantly and because of that no one is consistent.
I also found this quote from Hiro interesting to say the least. The IRC logs and pictures of Troid and Redwood might go against their interpretation of the rules, but no one is complaining about people posting pictures of them, thus it shouldn't' be a bannable issue. So yeah the mods are going against Hiro's back and doing whatever they want to do
>>>/a/141654433
another shitposting thread. How long will it take to be deleted this time?
>>533650
Actually those bad decisions that pissed off a lot of people were made in moot's tenure including shortly before he left. He seemed to start just fucking with the site in all sorts of ways out of an earnest edgy dislike of it, probably feeling burned that GG and fappening sealed the deal that he could never sell the site for big money or make it a force in social media like he was trying to. Perhaps he felt that since every other major board either hated him or didn't respect him by late '14 that he might as well get /a/ against him too so it wouldn't be so hard for him to separate himself from the site.
His changes clearly didn't help though as has been covered, neither making the board more pleasant nor helping traffic (basically the opposites actually). He isn't fucking here anymore; how hard is it to undo those shit policies? Is he going to command mods to keep following his whims from his Google office?
>>533722
He's probably still close to several of them, I would not be shocked if they still talk to him and moot is secretly giving them orders
>>533731
The mods are vastly loyal to moot. They still think HIS word is god over Hiro's. We still do need some of these mods to leave this place, like Troid for example. Hiro needs to step the fuck up for once and do something
Everything needs new mods desu
>>533319
>/a/ could/should be the fucking nexus of the Western anime scene.
Why on earth should that be the case? /a/ needn't be anything more than the board on 4chan for anime and manga discussion.
>>533650
>Traffic decreased because the mods began making more and more brain dead decisions since moot left, driving people off of 4chan and onto 8Gag.
That's just silly. Even at its peak 8gag's traffic was infinitesimal compared to 4chan, and currently the only boards with any substantial traffic are the /v/ and /pol/ ones. Combine that with the site undergoing an existential crisis for the umpteenth time and there's really no indication of any mass migration going on, especially not from /a/.
It's interesting that the mods you single out as being, pardon my phrasing, problematic, also happen to be the ones whose names are widely known. To me that suggests you are simply projecting your grievances onto easy targets.
>The IRC logs and pictures of Troid and Redwood might go against their interpretation of the rules, but no one is complaining about people posting pictures of them, thus it shouldn't' be a bannable issue.
This is also ridiculous, allowing personal information to be posted on the site freely is not something that will ever be allowed for reasons that should be obvious.
>>533883
Why should that be the case that /a/ has dominant influence? Because it fucking can be and it's better we be in charge than let fucking MAL or leddit have any more influence than they do. Why would you not want 4chan to actually be useful and respected for something, anything at fucking all? That "4chan is just for shitposting" attitude is literally submission to other sites. Fuck that. I am a native 4chan user, not a fucking banal redditor or twitter or Facebook piece of shit before that. Are you?
>>533883
Its not personal information though idiot. If it was then posting a picture of Bill Clinton is posting personal information. Posting a picture of Hiro is personal information.
Nobody knows the mods real names, all we have are their pictures and their IRC logs showing their corruption. And guess what? Its fair game on here since its not considering doxxing
>>533883
>To me that suggests you are simply projecting your grievances onto easy targets.
Except its a known fact that Troid moderates /a/, and that he's known to despise lolicon, he doesn't watch anime, and he's also the one who deletes pictures of himself all the time. Swaglord is a problem as well since he's just a glorified shitposting mod with a massive ego. ALTERNATIVE was one of the mods who tried to destroy /sp/ because he hated it
>>533911
I don't think most of /a/ are interested in the board being "the leader of the western anime fandom" or whatever. Most people on /a/ want nothing to do with the anime fandom outside of /a/. That is just your personal vision for the board.
>>533913
Bill Clinton is a public official. Hiro could arguably be considered one as well, or at least the equivalent of a celebrity. That's different from the mods who are normally as anonymous as any other user. And of course with all the Fappening stuff from last year, even celebrities can demand some privacy on here.
And given that you will catch a ban for posting any IRC logs it's hardly considered fair game.
>>533914
>its a known fact that Troid moderates /a/
Every mod moderates /a/. Mods are global.
>he's known to despise lolicon
That's not unique, even the "/a/ mods" despise lolicon.
>he's also the one who deletes pictures of himself all the time
You can't possibly know it's him all the time and there's no reason to think any mod will act differently.
>>534096
If that's the case, why do we have /soc/? Why not just start banning people on there for posting images? Why not ban people on /r/ for posting images of "public" porn stars? The only reason The Fappening got attention is because those celebrities thought they were above the law and could do whatever they wanted. Old moot would have just gone along with it, but would have stood up for freedom of speech since he did nothing wrong. But cuck moot was too much of a bitch and bended over and took it from the government.
Also those IRC logs don't expose their real names at all, so you're technically not doxxing them. It would be the same thing as posting say some private DMs from twitter or Facebook. We don't know the mods real names, and the only reason they delete them is because it makes them look bad and exposes them for being corrupt and they don't more people knowing about who they really are than people already do.
People have a right to know how bad our mods are, as does Hiro
>>534152
Doxxing, simply put, is releasing people's real name, their address, their phone number, and their friends. Posting a picture of say Troid is not doxxing him, nor does it incise a "raid" against him. Invisibro/Swaglord posts pictures of himself and he could care less about it. Its only those who were friends with Redwood and Troid who can't stand it.
>>534096
>Most people on /a/ want nothing to do with the anime fandom outside of /a/
That's because /a/ knows it has no peer in the English speaking world (couple dead clones and that's it). Those other naive diaspora from lesser sites can become one of us, with time and patience learning (it takes a while to watch a couple hundred shows, no way around that), but on the flip side you'd have to be a real casual moron to leave /a/ for some other site the way things are. It's the best place we have for current, English-speaking animu discussion on the entire net and that's something notable that should be painstakingly maintained. Why? 4chan doesn't have many other pulls to it that are a.) actually positive rather than nefarious and b.) also aren't done far better on other sites. It's a halo effect.
What has kept /a/ at this notable status though is the board's standards. Outsiders trickling in learn by example thus mods need to be ultimate wisdom here, which they were in the past. This is why moot's shittery a few years ago was so very particularly bad, because lower standards get passed on to the lurkers and that's how many boards have decayed already and we're already starting to see the first effects 2ish years on. It's still fixable/reversible though.
Mods themselves used to be the clear rigid guidelines on standards; they hardly need to act on them to demonstrate, because their posts are mountains of ammo with which to fight cancerous lower standards along with the typical off-topic/rule breaking. They could public ban a few people asking/giving sauce for example, or someone defending streaming etc. Rebanning Naruto would be functionally symbolic now (although with Boruto coming there could be a case for it) yet would make /a/ jump for joy. With a few simple moves which wouldn't actually disrupt much of anything it would be very easy to get things on the right track.
>>534154
>Invisibro/Swaglord posts pictures of himself and he could care less about it
not true - pls do not save pics of myself that i post only i can post them
>>534661
Can we post pictures of Tepid though? I mean even you know he's a laughing stock
>>534706
***Troid
>>534707
who?
Been up too long
>>>/a/141709523
>>534096
While it's impossible to have actual proof that all this shit going on /a/ is being done by the same mod, there are numerous points that hint at it being only one person, such as the time he's active, how nothing of this sort happened while he was away for the holidays, and his bias in particular against loli-related threads. While it's also possible that a certain group of mods is at fault, the time at which this mod acts alone is enough to make it seem like it's only one guy. Hell, he even just forcibly auto-saged loli threads at exactly the same time for two consecutive days.
>>535343
I don't know why you think any mod or even janitor would allow people to post pictures of mods that were found during the leaks.
>>535346
I have nothing against that and I agree with you, but I find the amount of dedication to deleting those pictures and IRC logs kind of amusing.
based
>>535468
I'd say "They could have moved it to /wsr/" but I'm guessing the fact that they didn't means they know it's just a shitposter who's done this before and they want to send a message.
>>535468
For once the mods did something useful. Probably their way to trying to gain trust back
>>535631
Probably yeah. Troid probably did it because he knows how much he's despised
>>535656
The fact that this is the default response to any mod visibly doing anything is why they've mostly become invisible untalkative faggots.
You get the moderation you deserve.
>>535714
If they didn't want this negative response, then maybe they shouldn't of started acting like total faggots in the first place. The userbase is merely reacting to the way the mods move, not the otherway around. /a/ moderation is probably the biggest cause of the destruction of the board.
>>535656
>troid is literally every mod always, bad actions are him and good actions are just underhanded ploys by him
Witch hunts aren't productive especially if you're just jumping at shadows blind and mods are global. No one mod is god-emperor of a board so it's rather dumb to blame one for everything.
>>535925
Really that was moot actually. Mods just carrying out his will shouldn't all be blamed too; I'd guess some of them just wanted to keep their jobs more than put their foot down over (for example) moot's decision to protect Naruto threads.
>an e-celeb thread at >>>/a/141773591 gets normally archived after 7 hours while loli threads get deleted
And apparently there are janitors from the new batch issuing warnings for "garbage outside of /b/" in there as well. What the fuck is going on.
>>536871
Now is the time to watch carefully if shit threads like the one you linked go untouched. An unarguably shitty thread hitting archive is the absolute stamp of fail. A shit thread getting deleted on page 9/10 after it hit autosage is also attempting to cover up evidence too and should be noted.
If there's a garbage thread up for hours which conveniently 404s 5 minutes after it gets posted in a thread like this here, that also can be documented as possible evidence someone is just cribbing on the board doing his job for him. Could also be a friendly mod doing that, but we just don't know.
If the new guy fucking sucks and doesn't care about the board and/or doesn't understand the nuances of it, the most we can hope for is he doesn't make the cut and the staff try someone else (they probably keep a shortlist in case people don't work out).
>>536894
Adding onto that, something just struck me, I believe posts containing YT links used to be blocked as spam. That was such a great call, what ever happened to that? /a/ and /v/ would benefit a fuckton from it.
>>536871
and yet /a/ is still the best board on 4chan. Its the weirdest fucking thing.
>>536914
This all really feels like /qa/'s fault, I remember that people in here got really angry after how Hiro resolved the nipplemod incident and ever since then moderation has been considerably more erratic in there. Not that it wasn't terrible before that incident, but it seems to have gotten much worse since then.
I just wish something could be done about this, holy fuck. The fact that people have been complaining about this mod (or these mods who all act the same way) for so long yet nothing has happeed makes me think that he holds a considerable amount of power in the staff and thus is allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants. It doesn't help how he seems to hold an enormous grudge against /a/.
Its crazy how /a/ used to be the board that loved the mods the most on this site.
Why did they turn against us?
>>536970
The community shapes itself more than mods do. Bans, deletetions, etc. are negligible compared to what anons choose to ignore and what to shitpost about.
>>536970
I don't know, because they got shitty? Some places like /int/ and /tv/ would actually complain if they were moderated like /a/ still is (and would go into open revolt if moderated like /a/ was up to ~2012), because they didn't merely adopt the shitposting, they were born in it, molded by it.
However /a/ was used to having mods who actually gave a fuck, which naturally selected for a userbase with higher standards of conduct than what flies on some other boards. Or maybe it's all part of a grand, site-wide irony that many of the more "adult" focused boards act far more vapid/childish in nature than boards discussing things like anime, cartoons and my little pony.
>>536970
>against us
Reported for breaking moderator code of conduct.
>>536984
But lucky star was a piece of shit and to this day I haven't even completed ep1.
>>536984
If a mod did that today he would be crucified for attention whoring.
>>536994
Mods were gods because they fucking talked sense, deleted/banned faggots on time, and were fucking awesome/hilarious on occasion.
Now they just don't talk, and tend to come across as bumbling incompetents pretending to know what they're doing, but people here longer than them clearly can tell shit's changed and not for the better. At least this is the case for /a/.
>>536970
/a/ used to have good mods dedicated to the board like Kinomod and A-san, but they all quit/got fired/got murdered and were replaced by mod.
For anyone else who doesn't browse that board, imagine if there were a few great mods who enjoyed your board and its culture, and then all of a sudden they all disappeared and got replaced by someone who not only doesn't give a single fuck about the culture of your board, but also deeply hates every aspect of it. That's the situation of /a/ right now.
>>537015
>replaced by mod.
Looks like it's time to sleep.
>>533114
The main problem isn't the mods but pic related.
>>536994
Because we grew up. That shit was funny 10 years ago, now it's just annoying.
>>537015
THIS.
NTR threads made by crossboarding newfags used to be deleted pretty fast on /a/ because the old mods were aware the NTR threads spammed on /a/ were made by the same ban evading shitposters from >>>/h/ but recently, the mods been letting the filth stay up for hours
>>>/a/141739613
See, the same shitposter has been caught red handed plenty of times before, spamming and samefagging with the exact same filenames.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/8BYYoL8VIKVCZXV-2pC6Xw/
http://desustorage.org/a/search/image/WXfFvrrIwLrSVHy19QEyrQ/
>>537107
I'm sure that one individual that hops on your daily madoka generals ruins the thread for you every single time without question.
/v/ermin ruined /a/.
They ruin everything they fucking touch.
They are a plague.
'Hate everything, my opinion should be spoken even if nobody asked for it, I have the RIGHT to annoy you.'
Sheltered kids too socially retarded to go outside.
>>537203
Yeah, he ruins the threads for everyone.
>>537205
This 100% as ex/v/irgin. Those cunts are just not people you want around but sadly /v/ is a breeding ground that catapults them all over the site. /pol/ getting even worse also does not help anyone on this site.
>>537218
moot 'killed' /pol/ ages ago.
Of course, being the idiot that he is all it did was turn /pol/ from Nazis general to shitposting general.
>>537207
You missed the point.
>>537205
You're about 5 years too late to use /v/ as a boogeyman.
>>537269
And sadly enough, it still works. Poor skeletons of fine /v/irgins of the past, I bet even after death they still suffer with what their board became.
>>537107
>madoka generalfag image
AHAHAHAHAHA
Do you guys know the meaning of irony?
Fresh fails, jani sucks if he can't do a routine sweep even once an hour on weekends.
>>>/a/141833746
>>>/a/141835870
>>537838
>>>/a/141842084
>>>/a/141842774
>>>/a/141842254
>>537902
Shitty threads really do come in waves. Must be because it's not a school night.
Man, I hope the new jans get going soon.
>>537909
Or it could be the same shitposter just going ad-lib.
>>537910
Well, yes. The frogposter is obviously the same one, not sure about the others.
>>537902
>>>/a/141844178
y'all niggas need to chill up
At a glance, a legitimate-sounding thread, but obviously /pol/ crossover
>>>/a/141846907
>>538134
More accurately, newfags. Many of them are intentionally shitposting, though.
>>538002
Can someone archive link this? I want some laughs.
>>538137
1. Go to Desu archive
2. Add in some words to the Comment field (restrict to OP only)
e-celeb
>>>/a/141865589
>>538329
>all these replies
This is why shitposters will keep shitposting and make shitty threads like this.
You only have yourself to blame for this /a/.
>>538411
Almost no one in the thread was taking OP seriously. People were just kind of agape that something that normally gets axed in 5 mins took hour+.
I think some people rationalize "even if I said nothing besides fuck off and left the thread alone, OP is going to just keep bumping it in everyone's face, so I should shit on it to clarify we aren't taking his thread seriously".
On the one hand, I hate it when a fucking terrible thread gets a giant amount of replies and it's all just negativity, spam and assorted shittery, and this is where pic related applies.
On the other hand though, if the users don't vehemently reject such shit, then how will OP get the message if mods/janis have their thumbs up their asses (out of either spite or absence)? Ideally mods could say "don't worry, we'll get them, just leave the threads alone", but when that clearly doesn't happen /a/ activates the immune response.
>>537015
That's because its Troid who's the mod and he's a sack of shit
This is getting insane. Hiro needs to stop doing whatever the fuck he's doing and fix this situation. /a/ culture is going to die out for good if this doesnt' get fixed. No more stickies, no more Christmas cards, no more anything fun thanks to this faggot mod
>>>/a/141885675
What the fuck is this shit?
>>538715
Its already dead when the majority of the people are for streaming,blogging,normalfaggotry, normalfags memes and other stupid shit.
There is no saving this place.
Goddammit, I just stubbed my toe. Fucking thanks, Troid.
I'd offer to be a jan on /a/, but I'm a new fag and only seen 250 anime. Plus, I haven't been keeping up with seasonal as much lately.
Just FYI
>>>/a/141891833
>>>/a/141892734
None of the blatant shitposts I report get deleted anymore. I'm not sure why I should bother.
>>539173
Seems more like they're autosaging the threads now
>>539173
But yeah the fact that these are not getting deleted shows that this mod clearly hates /a/ a lot and wants it to go to shit.
>>538718
This thread was fucking archieved instead of being deleted. It proves my point that the mods, instead of deleting the threads, are now autosaging them
>>>/a/141904522
for fucks sake delete this garbage!
>>539067
Troid the Cuck should become a meme on /a/ just to piss him off. He clearly hates it when people make fun of him
>>539239
Why would they do that?
>>539246
I have no fucking clue. It seems reporting the thread now leads to it being autosaged. Its a stupid idea, but at least it doesn't bump the thread and will kick if off the board. I don't if this is because the mod is being a lazy ass or he's so new he doesn't even know how to delete a thread. But the mod seemingly has no issue deleting anything related to Troid, so I have a feelings its him doing this.
>>539247
Nope nevermind that thread didn't get autosaged and its still fucking up. A thread on /v/ like that was deleted within moments. Now /a/ seems to have gotten /v/'s moderation.
/a/ could very well become worse than /v/ soon at this rate/
>>539250
Mods are clearly fucking with people. People are getting dubs whenever someone says "check my dubs" or "the next post is dubs". This mod clearly hates /a/ and he finds it funny that we despise him for his shit job.
Something has got to be done about this
>>539242
One hour. One hour and its still not deleted
>>539282
you mad bro
>>539272
He hates /a/ because of him.
>>539345
I think he's just shit at his job
I think many mods can do on /a/
>>533114
>I think many mods can do on /a/
>>539394
Oh shit it's Hiro!
Hiro listen, we need more mods badly. We have no structure on here at all. Mods aren't doing their jobs at all and it's a total trainwreck
Also please post more
>>539394
This new /a/ mod is beyond incompetent. Off topic threads are left up for hours despite being reported
>>539394
Hiro, are the new janitors active yet? Can boards get more than one at a time?
Also some current mods seem to ignore many boards. You can see the ban page and notice mods were active recebtly but ignored clear rule breaking threads on some boards multiple times over. They are supposed to be global, that is any mod can help any board. Other mods antagonize certain users on some boards.
>>539412
This. We also need more mods you personally can bring aboard. You also need to consider getting rid of any mod that is an issue.
I'm just wondering that we should care about off-topic threads so much?
ignoring is not so difficult, I think.
>>539428
Holy shit, thank you for saying that.
Sadly 4channers aren't very good at ignoring what they don't like.
>>539428
A lot of mods and janitors delete everything they please.
I wish they thought the way you do.
>>539428
Because they're breeding grounds for shitposters Hiro. Just look at boards like /g/, /int/ and /a/. We want good moderation from the staff and we do not have that at all.
Hiro the mods need an overhaul badly. We beg of you, please do something
>>539431
This multi threads system is easy to watch only you want, I think..
>>539439
>fun is not allowed
>>539442
Please explain what you just said. What multi thread system? The catelog
>>539439
Define "shitposting".
>>539439
What we need to know is "What is good moderation?"
Someone wants more deleting. Another want many thread alive.
>>539446
Off topic garbage that has nothing do to with the board.
>>539444
I mean 2chan system.
You can choose a thread in front page or catalog.
Then you don't need to see other threads.
>>539447
And you, how do you feel about the current mods?
>no one asked me but I love the mods in some boards, while I hate those on /sp/, and they certainly hate me aswell
>>539447
I think only illegal content, spam and flood should be deleted.
Hiroyuki create ura boards for every board like 2chan does. That way everyone is happy.
>>539449
"off topic" is not easy to define.
Some guys think that talking about voice actors are off-topic, original novel, other animes with same director or live action movie, like Dragon Ball movie.
>>539447
Good moderation is mods not deleting GamerGate threads, mods not banning you for topics they don't like, mods listening to people, mods not going against your orders such as banning you from the IRC for complaints. You want this site to be for us? Then fix the moderation and put us first
>>539444
4chan is multi-threaded, a board has multiple threads and you can just stay in the ones you like.
Non-threaded boards existed before.
>>539446
Shitposting is knowingly contributing low quality, off-topic, or ill intentioned posts.
>>539428
Some people make off topic threads designed only to piss off certain boards. For example all the racial spam on /int/ and /pol/ etc. Also even if the board users try to ignore such threads, the makers of those threads will just keep bumping them to force it in everyone's face.
Users ignoring bad threads won't make bad threads go away. It just encourages those people to make more bad threads because they think mods don't care. Years back, /v/ and /sp/ had pages full of off topic / disguised off topic threads dominating discussion at times. Mods had to step in. Only boards like /b/ or /r9k/ should be allowed to wander into any topic, the rest need to be constantly trimmed to prevent the site from losing grip on its organization. Right now /pol/ is off topic much of the time because of their netouya.
>>539455
Like what?
>>539462
Are there non-threaded boards in 2ch? I want one of those.
>>539458
No I mean clearly things like posting a game of thrones threads on /a/
>>539459
>GamerGate
is this still a thing? lol
>>539465
I agree with your idea.
If you can make the deleting rules in text.
It will be much helpful for users and mods.
>>539428
There's a finite number of threads at one time. One bad thread = one good thread is deleted. This is not acceptable.
Say you're in a thread you enjoy. It is archived, and is replaced by a bad thread. You cannot "ignore" this.
>>539466
Like offtopic boards for the larger boards. That way users of /v/, /a/, etc can still post the things they like with the same people, and it won't cause trouble for anyone wanting to use the main boards for on-topic threads.
Can someone sum up how is moderation on other chans? I partake on hispachan but moderation there is quite unnecessary.
>>539475
Hispachan is the epitome of rulecuckery.
>>539470
Please make this happen
When will that lewd-spoiler icon be implemented by the way?
>>539476
It's a rather small community, it's understandable. That one chan in Brazil was the target of hackers and police all the time because they had quite the /pol/ mentality (the 'being retard irl' and 'believing their own bullshit' parts).
>>539475
>I partake on hispachan
>>539470
How would the deleting rule work? How can we make it work? Like maybe if enough people vote for a thread it'll get deleted
So basically a voting system
>>539481 (You)
>>539483
Please, no. Stop fucking with how 4chan has worked for 12 years.
>>539485
It's not 2003 anymore idiot. We need new ways to tackle shitposting and garbage. This is a step in the right direction
>>539480
>it's understandable
It's a shitty place managed by shitty people.
Normally I wouldn't care but the fact its admin claims that wasteland is pro-free speech when they delete anything that bothers the mods or pro-anonymity when their own admin often makes threads about himself and uses Hispachan as some kind of personal blog is laughably sad.
This nitwit's never going to get a ban, is he. Not even a deletion.
>>>/a/141894295
To be fair those threads are shit anyway.
>>539487
No they don't need to, you just want to.
>>539487
I didn't say anything about mods, what you think mods should/shouldn't do within the realm of 4chan's existing rules is another matter entirely. Debate that to your hearts content. That's not what I'm talking about.
>>539488
>downvotes are a step in the right direction
Proof that neo-4channers belong on reddit despite their constant accusations and shitposting about reddit.
>>539485
This desu, newfags want muh reddit upboats but don't want to fuck off there permanently.
>>539492
>I didn't say anything about mods, what you think mods should/shouldn't do within the realm of 4chan's existing rules is another matter entirely. Debate that to your hearts content. That's not what I'm talking about.
Sorry, senpai.
>>539483
Fun fact: If a thread gets reported enough times on Futaba it gets hidden.
>>539496
Fun fact: Futaba also has an *actual* board where you can report any post.
>>539496
I can think of no way that could possibly be abused on 4chan.
>>539496
People will just abuse the shit out of it.
>>539470
I want to see this happen
>>539458
People talking about themselves instead of anime (we call it blogging) is considered off topic. Such people also get offended that /a/ users don't care about the personal lives of random people and think themselves more important than the board topic, and just start shitposting the thread.
The other thing is some subjects are common flame war starters and some people know this and make the same threads almost every day just trying to get attention.
Also Hiro, the sage function used to be useful for people to identify who and who isn't taking a thread seriously and after it was made invisible it makes it very easy for trolls to argue with themselves to do very complicated shitposts designed to hurt peoples' desire to use certain boards. People can't tell who is being sarcastic or trying not to keep stirring up bad threads without visible sage, please make it visible again at least on /a/ and /jp/ (it was made invisible because the function was abused on some other boards).
>>539507
Wow, and we just happen to have a board called Off-topic!
Hiro senpai, why can't we have nice boards like
>Ramen
>Japanese TV
>Misc chats
?
>>539507
We could bring back visible sage again. Make it say "KusO" and make a new board for it called /shit/
>>539509
Just bring back text boards so people can have slower discussion about more niche topics.
>>539511
I'm okay with this, anon.
>>539507
Sounds like a den full of dumb features.
Wouldn't surprise me if Hiroyuki actually lost control of 2ch because he accidentally implemented a feature that allowed enough users to simply ban him from his own site.
>>539511
There's already too many English textboards and they're all dead.
>>539507
This is a neat idea but difficult to implement on 4chan without people abusing it.
Futaba channel has flipside versions of some boards, basically "serious discussion" version and "shitposting/sometimes off topic version" side by side. I think some boards (like /v/ and /tv/) really can use this because the problems of those boards is a lot of people want good discussion but also a lot of people just want memes and shitposting and they are always at odds with each other.
Lastly some things on 4chan used to be very useful on text-only boards (like /lang/ and /prog/) that do not function well since those boards were removed for apparently no reason. If would be so great if text boards came back too. Not like /news/ textboard, like clones of the 2ch format. Many of these were totally abandoned for imageboard versions but like I said some niche subjects were more useful in text form and we miss them.
>>539518
I also like this idea.
>>539518
I love this. Hiro, give us flipsides
I can think of atleast 5 boards who could be text-only without a inch of a problem.
>>539515
Well, it wasn't implemented sitewise. It was implemented in the /news/ board because lot of people were shitting on it with offtopic threads back then, and one of the 2ch devs liked the board so he implemented that so they would leave. In the end VIP ended up being the biggest board, bigger than the original /news/.
Another 2ch dev hated the kenmou board (another news board) and he implemented the soko feature to piss its users off. (You put "soko" in the e-mail field and the thread would get pushed back to the bottom of the board, like a reverse bump)
>>539518
>>539519
Yeah, bring back world4chan.
Why can't you just hire better mods instead of implementing features that are going to be abused by the users? Just fire all of the mods/janitors who are either abusing their power or not really doing their jobs well at all. It can't be really that difficult to do their jobs.
>>539525
>being this mad
>>539530
>>539530
What are you smoking?
Are you sure you replied to the right post?
>>539525
How much does pic related take on server space? Really. One could server this thing on a flash drive or something.
>>539535
The problem is not having textboard software, and Shiichan was utter shit (which is why world4ch was shut down in first place).
>>539539
>which is why world4ch was shut down in first place
No, it was because moot felt they're "unnecessary" for some reason.
>>539541
Because the only mod/dev that cared about it one day couldn't be arsed to keep patching such a broken piece of shit.
Why doesn't Hiroyuki just buy 4-ch?wwww
>>539543
Implying it was broken.
>>539527
Yeah, there are millions of users of this site, it cannot be hard to find people more willing to help if current mods are tired of their role. Some current mods seem OK but there are not enough people helping for even basic tasks. Which is why the first thing I asked Hiro is if the new janitors are active yet, because maybe things will get better with them soon.
>>539545
Uh, yeah, it had plenty of bugs and exploits.
MVB himself told me why he stopped working on world4ch.
>>539548
I don't know, I never noticed anything.
>>539547
Funny thing though, every time there's a janitor application I stop on barriers such as "what's your handle in the internets", "what are the problems of your board", such shit, and I never pressed submit on any of those stuff. I don't have a handle or a nickname or anything on the internet since 2009. I change my name and pic in Steam every day or so. I can't answer "because mods do a shitty job on my favorite boards".
>>539477
>Please make this happen
Let's ask him.
>>539558
hiroyuki, are you honestly happy with current state of moderation?
>>539558
Who the fuck do you need to ask? You run this shit.
>>539428
hiro we have to have rules you idiot.
This is not polite Japan
>>539575
Nobody is polite on the internet.
>>539558
hiro that just makes more work and more complaints
>>539575
This. You just don't understand how delicate a balance there is to keep people happy without letting the 95% newfag cancer that populates 4chan treat it like a garbage dump. For the last 3-5 years there's been a steady influx of underage little shits from Facebook who think "4chan is for shitposting" and even argued with moot himself on /q/ about that when he told them they were wrong.
There are valid complaints about mod strictness but almost all the most vocal whiners saying we need to change rules or mods are just people who are butthurt because a thread of theirs was personally deleted.
>>539575
I hope he's not actually going to take the terrible advice of implementing a voting system like this is Reddit or some shitty forum.
We really should just ignore shitty threads. Trying to dictate what is and isnt on topic to such a degree only leads to shit like people asking for anime to be banned.
Let the mods handle moving garbage to /trash/.
hiro ought to hire more mods from reddit and other internet communities.
>>539586
No, that sounds like a bad idea.
>>539586
nice joke. that's exactly why /v/ is shit. reddit mods have caused so much fucking drama.
>>539586
Hiro, this person is "shitposting." He's joking.
>>539558
Hiro it's your decision. Make it happen
>>539589
I wouldn't call that a joke, he's intentionally trying to incite a "flamewar", a forum fight among users.
>>539591
how do you know
>>539593
Please.
>>539428
WHY ARE YOU SO BASED?
>this thread
>>539428
The few people moaning actively don't want to ignore threads. With thread filters and the watcher it's easier than ever to focus on content you want to see. Some people just like to whine and moan.
>>539594
maybe you should try stopping being such a tight ass :)
I want more originality.
Hiroyuki, please implement the /r9k/ bot on /a/ too, so that most users on /a/ are forced to be a little bit more creative when making bait topics.
TEXT BOARD ABOUT RAMEN
>it's time
>>539558
Ask who? Me who wrote that post? What should deletion rules be?
Well, really good rules are already in place: global rules 3 and 6. They just aren't enforced equally across the site and some boards expect (on 1-10) 10/10 strictness against shitposters/off topic, and others want 1/10. Over the years, different boards developed different standards and expectations for what mods should delete because of varying ranges of mods actually using global rules to delete/ban. This has caused problems if mods changed in moderating priority. Boards used to shitposting like /pol/ and /int/ would hate to be moderated like /co/ and /a/. Likewise /co/ and /a/ would hate to be moderated like /int/ and /pol/. It's a problem you inherited that built up over a decade that moot never solved - the boards, due to different mod strategie, separated into a crowd that fucking hates /pol/, /int/, /tv/ style shitposting, and a crowd that actually likes that environment. Mods used to be basically board specific but moot made them global, I think to try to fix this problem. It didn't work and mods seem to have shifted - /v/ and /co/ seem to get tons of mod attention now and aren't that thankful for it at all. /a/ notices slacking and is furious about it. Some mods/janitors also seem to go off on tangents ignoring shitty threads to attack only specific posts (like on /vg/ and /vp/).
/a/ was trained by mods to have higher standards and still embodies these traits even if those old mods are inactive / gone. If newer mods from boards with far lower standards look at what /a/ wants, it seems they just spit on those desires instead and /a/ is keenly aware of that and feels it is a huge betrayal of what helped the board be good.
So the question is, should mods care mostly about boards that really want heavy modding or let them be to try to help boards that don't see the intervention as help? I don't know. I'm not the boss here but I think giving people what they want is not a bad thing.
>>539623
You make a lot of sense. Though some people like the idea of getting flipside boards like 2ch has
>>539539
>not having textboard software
If we need textboard software, Bienvenido a internet's software is pretty good.
https://github.com/z411/weabot
>>539629
Flipside wouldn't hurt but also would really change the face of 4chan, it would be a really bold move truly evolving site dynamics - it could go over really good or really bad.
I like the idea on one hand but also would be afraid to see "serious /a/ vs shitposter's /a/" type rivalry. If could get bad. /v/ also might not take it well. I can imagine people saying the serious boards are just Reddit pandering or whatever. It could actually damage the way people see the site.. Maybe as a trial run on one board at a time to se of they like it or not.
I still think either removing (You) or bringing back visible sage to counter it would help a lot without needing flipsides. Sages identify who is not taking the thread seriously, how many people think it's not good for the board etc and helps clear out confusion.
>>539632
Having used kareha, tablecat, shiichan and weabot, I can say weabot is the best and fastest textboard software there is.
>>539428
Off Topic Threads are Cancer. You can't leave them alone.
On /a/, for example, there are a certain group of shitposters who want to treat /a/ like >>>/soc/ >>>/lgbt/ and >>>/r9k/.
They don't want to talk about anime or manga.
Instead, they want to talk about their real life relationships, sexual experiences, hormone medication they are taking, and clothes that they bought.
And it is not just limited to /a/, plenty of other boards get plagued by these shitposters.
Other boards also call them as ERPfags where ERP stands for Erotic Role Playing where shitposters post sexual and explicit content, both in text or picture form, to each other while roleplaying.
They even admit their threads are not related to anime or manga at all.
Most of these shitposters are Trapfags crossboarding from their containment boards.
Plenty of people report these threads on /a/ but the new mods aren't even deleting or autosaging them and just let them run rampant on /a/.
>>539458
No, on /a/, Off Topic is basically people attentionwhoring about their REAL LIFE.
They don't want to talk about anime and manga.
Instead, they want to blog about their REAL LIFE.
On /a/ and 4chan, we call this Blogging which many boards do not want at all aside from containment boards like >>>/r9k/ and >>>/soc/.
>>539636
A radical redesign is maybe what we need
>>539636
why do you keep saying "the face of 4chan" on a bunch of threads, we have no face we're anonymoose
>>539485
>>539492
Funny because 4chan should have no more Captcha then according to your logic.
Also, 4chan should go back to the original 300 Post Limit and Catalog Mode should be removed as well.
You want 4chan to go back to its 2003 version, right?
So that means the Vertical Frames should come back as well just like 2chan which still has them.
>>539663
4chan didn't have image replies at first either.
>>539670
Remain in denial, Trapfag.
Your time is coming up.
You can't hide from the archive.
>>539663
Frames still exist, anon.
>>539672
4chan is 18+, come back in 2022.
how the hell is this allowed?
>>141921500
it's some idiot shilling his online radio show
none of the music is even anime music, it's all dubstep and touhou shit
do we not have mods?
>>539676
Snacks?
>>539676
sorry >>>/a/141921500
I don't get it at all
do you just need an anime image to have your thread allowed to stay up?
>>539677
no, it's "autist" whoever the fuck that is
I've never seen his fucking threads but it looks like he comes back every 6 months to shill his show and "take requests"
none of it is even /a/ related
>>539678
R/a/dio type threads playing anime music are aptly /a/ IMO.
If the person in question is making money off it or trying to poach users to a different imageboard it should be axed due to advertising. But things that are just "for anons, by anons" to me are OK.
>>539685
how is it related though?
he's not playing any anime music, just dubstep, generic jpop, and touhou remixes
put it on /jp/ or whatever then
I fail to see how the person advertising browsing /a/ suddenly makes it ok for them to do it
>>539674
Says the underaged trapfag panicking that his safe space full of underaged cancer like himself is about to be doused with chemo
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/anywhere but here/
>>539687
>caring about identity and not the content of the post
yeah ok
>>539690
Ironic because you trapfags claim to not have an identity at all considering your ever growing mental issues.
>>539694
ironic because you keep redirecting people to tumblr/reddit lmao
>you trapfags
wrong person
>>539685
that's the same thing everyone else is complaining about though
you're saying that comfyfags blogposting about their sites and song taste belongs on /a/ when none of it is even anime related
how does that make sense?
>>539695
>lmao
Thanks for giving evidence about your newfag self.
Now everyone in this thread can ignore a crossboarder like you.
>>539690
Well in this case both are bad.
Not that guy but throwing in my 2ยข, I don't like that stuttering shit "w-what will we do?", " b-but I love her" etc. To my recollection that was not at all condoned on vintage /a/ any more than emoticons outside ;_; (even then I personally don't like that when people look for any excuse to do one). Sounds too close to psuedo RP weebshit from Gaia. Not a good crowd, in large part because predominantly underageb&.
It's not like every single nuance and quirk of old /a/ must be preserved 100% for eternity or we all die, but hey, some conclusions of the past are plain common sense and just as relevant today. For example I don't see murder being considered bad going out of style anytime soon, and that's only a bunnyhop more heinous than RPers.
>>539700
funny because 4chan in 2005 wasn't autistic about that kind of thing lol
>>539470
Hiro just look at these archived threads when you have time. It is the same people making these threads every week.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141136679/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141109519/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141259424/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141413190/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141559727/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/141436566
>>539705
Funny because underaged trapfags like yourself need hormone medication to make up for your imaginary puberty you never received.
Don't die of a heart attack before you reach 18 however.
You do look forward to being able to post on 4chan at the right age after all.
