Is /qst/ still a trial board? The feedback thread was unsticked and stuff but I haven't seen word from the mods and quests are still being posted on /tg/.
Are quests just kind of being allowed to be posted on both boards now? That don't make much sense to me. I can't go making threads about gainz outside of /fit/ or car threads outside of /o/, can I?
Could we get some clarification on what's going on here? I think it'd be really great if /qst/ could be taken out of trial board status and all quest threads could be moved off of /tg/ so they can have a nice home and we can have a nice quest-free board!
>>524525
You can put "what kind of sweet rides do you have" threads on /tg/ but you need to post a picture of some 40k tank to do so.
It hasn't really been very long for much of a trial to have taken place.
>>524529
Yeah but that just elicits a general "character standing next to vehicle" artwork thread. That aint the same at all.
>>524539
Oh, okay. How long do trials go on for? What's the cut-off point?
Could you always post pdfs on /qst/ or was that just added in over the past week?
>>524545
>How long do trials go on for? What's the cut-off point?
There's no way to know for sure because no trial board has ever been deemed a failure before. Unless you count /film/, but that seemed more like a board that was opened prematurely.
Yes, to great dismay from the crybabies who thought the mods were finally caving to their no true scotsman whining.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/qst/deleted/deleted/
>>524545
>How long do trials go on for?
Until Hiro actually checks up on the site.
So I'd estimate approximately 10 months.
>>524688
February/March then.
>>524673
>Yes
Oh nice, could you provide a link to the mod statement on that one? I've been really wondering lately.
I mean, I know janitors are really trying hard to keep the peace because so many people want questers to shuffle off to their own board already, but I'm not really sure that's the same thing as a public statement made by someone "in the know," you know?
>>524571
Huh, that seems like a pretty good track record! It's been almost 2 weeks now, so I think it's going pretty well so far!
>>524525
>Are quests just kind of being allowed to be posted on both boards now?
This is what I want to know. It's fucking dumb that we have to house them AND they get their own fucking board.
I just don't get what the mods are actually doing right now. Why delete even the posts politely asking people to go to /qst/?
>>524525
All boards to the right of the gay ones are trial boards. That includes /tg/.
>>524896
>politely
Uh huh.
>>525420
>Muh feelings r hurt so u shud b b&!
Uh-huh.
>>524525
>>524545
>>524710
>Not a single 9
Three strikes and you're out.
Anyway, yes it would be nice for the mods to at least confirm what they intend to do. My biggest grip with how things are being done with /qst/ is that allowing quests on /tg/ while the trial is going on gives a skewed image of the new board, since part of the target demographic just sticks to the old board because there's no reason to move on as they're still accepted there.
I mean, I would comprehend if that was the way things were done, but I remember that all western porn was forced into /aco/ when it started its trial, all alternate sports into /asp/, all history threads into /his/, etc. My question is: why is it different with /qst/?
Quests should be banned
I know ya'll mods are real busy what with all the goings-ons of the site, but I really want an answer to my questions, so I think I will bump my
thread!
>>524710
>I think it's going pretty well so far!
It's pretty shit so far, the population outside of previously established quests seems to be rather sparse.
>>524525
>>524890
>Are quests just kind of being allowed to be posted on both boards now?
Good question. Questfags are still making quest threads on /tg/ under the excuse that they're "too well established" to move, or something to that effect. When is "Quests go in /qst/" going to be enforced?
>>529471
>enforcing a thing that doesn't exist
Cool fuckin story bro.
So when can I start reporting people for not following the rules because they don't feel like moving their waifu quest off of /tg/?
>>530789
I think there was a post somewhere in one of the other 4 /qst/ discussions now archived that had the exact answer for your question, but I am too lazy to find it.
Just ban quests globally
Seriously now
>post in a quest thread on /tg/ that quests go in /qst/ now
>OP replies, blatantly blowing me off
>come back a few hours later to find my post has been deleted
>>531703
At least you got a reply.
What would be the repercussions of tagging every thread as a quest?
For instance, Elf Slave Wat Do? [Quest]
>>532068
Well, it would prevent anti quest fags from finding your thread past their filters, so that'd be a plus.
>>531716
Yeah, from the dickass OP running the quest.
>>524525
>I can't go making threads about gainz outside of /fit/ or car threads outside of /o/, now can I?
Gains Quest: AE86 Edition, coming soon to /tg/.
>>524525
Literally just got my post deleted by a /tg/ mod when I told the OP of a new quest to move to /qst/.
Hiroyuki fix your shit god damn moderation.
>>533028
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/qst/deleted/deleted/
I think they're doing a fantastic job, myself.
Guys
Come on now.
>>533654
It just proves that the mods weren't actually listening to the whiners and were just doing their own thing without paying much attention to users from either side of the argument.
>>533861
Situation Normal then.
>>533590
From some posts I'm reading there, quest thread makers refuse to move to /qst/ out of spite
This is getting ridiculous. I've reported these quest threads numerous times, and yet they always come back in greater numbers.
At this point, those responsible for such threads need to simply be banned from /tg/. It's been a long time coming, but it's time.
>>534153
Neither Post Apoc Megacorp and the Skirmish are quests , one's already off the board, and at least 3 are already over and just waiting for threads to bump them off the board. Though why you don't have the Dearth of Gods skirmish in this list if you are including them as quests I might never know.
>>534164
>Neither Post Apoc Megacorp and the Skirmish are quests
By what logic are they not? The machanics are basically the same as any other quest.
>>534422
Post Apoc is a civilization management game with little to no actual story being written.
The Grid-Lock skirmish is a group of tripfags posting an action and character sheet while doing a hack and slash dungeon crawl with little to no actual storytelling going on.
>>534153
>I've reported these quest threads numerous times, and yet they always come back in greater numbers.
And the "can't take a hint that he's wrong" award goes to (you).
>>534760
I believe they call that the "Rincewind Cup for the slowest person on the uptake in the entire multiverse."
>>524525
Isn't it amazing how getting rid of quests and /wst/ has done nothing to change the board in the slightest? Aren't you glad you're the /tg/ board police now?
For a bunch of whiny crybabies who try and control /tg/, you're awfully shit at it.
>>534842
This from people who consistently went into a board they got made as containme3nt, outright stated they got it made for containment, and then gloated over having 'doomed quests' to a containment board.
And it's the questfags who are smug assholes? Really?
>>534955
If you're going to talk to him, best to not use complex words on account of his mental retardation.
>>534962
>This is the level of delusional self-important questfags have fallen to
>>534972
>50% of the board is quests
>quests push active topics off the board
>there are over 30 quests on /tg/ right now all the time forever
>questfags only look at quests and nothign else
>questfags wanted a board fo their own
>quests made me leave /tg/ except when threads I don't like are on /tg/
>we got /gqst/ made out of the goodness of out hearrs
>everyone on /tg/ hates quests
Delusion's voices.
>>534954
Quests haven't left yet, shithead.
>>534993
Neither have the smut threads or the shitposting! Amazing!
>>535132
"Isn't it amazing how getting rid of quests has done nothing to change the board?"
"Nobody's gotten rid of quests yet"
"EXACTLY MY POINT *pats self on back* *teleports away*"
>>535238
>missing the point
Serious question
I seem to have missed the creation and feedback section of /qst/
I get that it was meant for /tg/'s quest problem, but is gr.15 still in effect on that board?
I feel like some people will get a good use out of it with, what, sixteen cyoas and one text based quest going on right now in /mlp/
>>535474
>I seem to have missed the creation and feedback section of /qst/
All 2 hours of it?
There was a feedback thread that lasted two days, and had anti-questfags popping in every 10-20 posts to congratulate them on being thrown off of /tg/ (the same 12-15 posters, since the poster counter never changed much past the first 12 of them), but there was literally a "how would you like this" an two hours later "don't care what you think, it's up". They made five or six functionality tweaks, and that's all the mods ever said.
>>535490
The painter is from /i/.
>>535492
but what is it? what does it do?
>>535490
The entire guide is right on the sticky. That's all the information we got too.
>>535495
>go to quest
>see instructions for text formatting
>feel dumb
>keep looking
>still can't figure out what "painter" even is
>went to /i/
>no sticky
>no help there
Well if that's all the info you guys have then i give up
>>535502
Open up a treply or post dialog, then click on 'draw'.
>>535502
Don't give up. Fiddle around with the painter (it's the draw button when you post) to see what you can do. Switching colors is as easy as putting in a number in the color box. Have fun.
>>535510
ooooohhhhh
it's hidden in my quick reply box (4chan x user)
thanks guys
What makes /qst/ unappealing to me is the IDs. That one feature ruined it for me. If they would get rid of what are essentially mandatory tripcodes, it would be a lot more appealing to myself and other anons who like quests and probably the QMs.
I brought the IDs up before on /tg/ and a couple other people agreed that that would make it better for them. It was even suggested that mandatory names be made an option for the OP. OPs, as the ones running the quest, are already given a lot more options on that board. If they are worried about fucking up votes then they can choose to have their thread have mandatory tripcodes, and if they don't want to ruin the anonymous spirit this site is built on, then they don't have to.
That one change would encourage a lot of quests to make the transition to /qst/.
>>535708
You *do* know that they're thread-specific, right?
>>535711
Yes.
>>535708
Well, verified that there's pretty much no players in /qst/. Only big name QMs will really get players, and even then, the players are m ore likely to stay on /tg/.
>>535720
>It's a "questfags need to leech off of /tg/'s forum base" episode
>>535740
>It's a /fa/tg/uys only turn into questfags when the quest they like is up" episode.
>>535740
>I don't understand that people can multitask
>I can't understand that people can like more than one thing at a time
>I can't understand that people can have doing things I don't like
>I can't understand why people are upset at me for trying to get things they like banned
>I can't understand why people don't just do what I want them to do
>I can't understand anything
>>535742
>It's a "questfag spouts incomprehensible gibberish and thinks he made a point" episode
The literal only argument questfags can still cling to is that they "need" /tg/ to sustain a board, even though a perfectly healthy board is going on right this very minute, but I guess it doesn't have /v/-speed traffic, so that's still not good enough. Neverminding how obnoxious questfags still pollute /tg/, further splitting the player base.
So basically, questfags complain that the board is too slow while unironically trying their hardest to keep posting on /tg/, completely oblivious to their self fulfilling prophesy.
This is your brain on quests.
>>535744
>I don't understand that forum games don't get to be put on /tg/ just because I really want them to be
>>535745
Questfags also didn't get the board made. That was assholes here on /qa/ who are habitual liars and can't into math, somehow convinced quests are somehow killing /tg/ in some magical, undefinable, secret way.
>>535748
Nobody has ever said that except for villains you yourself have concocted within your own deluded mind.
They are big enough to warrant their own board. They have been for a while now. Just because having another 4chan board tab open is against your religion doesn't mean that your forum game nonsense belongs on /tg/.
And please save the "They tricked the mods, they tricked them all!" Wormtongue-corrupts-Theoden nonsense. The mods have access to far more information related to board traffic, poster history, and IPs than you or I do. There was enough demand to start a new board, as made evident by the fact that a new board is now flourishing. Your hurt feelings over not being wanted on /tg/ is quite immaterial to all these facts.
>>535753
Historical revisionism at it's very finest, boys and girls.
>>535753
Please, if the mods actually were inforcing the rules they laid out for /qst/ it would be a ghost town where only 5-7 threads are getting 65-80% of the traffic.
No, free-form RP, civ threads and skirmishes aren't quests don't point to them.
>>535753
You have a funny way of defining 'flouishing'.
>>535746
It's not because any one person really wants them to be, it's because a large number of people, larger than the 12 samefagging antiquest spammers, want them to be.
>>535439
Nah mate, there was no point to your shit posts.
>>535781
>It's an "only 12 people in the world could possibly disagree with me" episode.
>>535892
The /qst/ feedback thread (a rolling sticky, and thus missing a lot of the posts made during its life) is archived for viewing on sup/tg/. The 12 shitposters thing was from a lot of threads calling for the removal of quests from /tg/, where 12 posters, not always the same 12 posters, would loudly samefag their hate for everyone to hear.
>>535892
And again with your bullshit claims to shitsmear the people you disagree with.
Nobody here but you has brought up the argument that over half of /tg/ threads are quests. Can you stop and try to construct a proper argument?
The point of this thread is that it shouldn't matter if people running Quests WANT them to be on /tg/. They have a place of their own now, and Mods should enforce that.
People posting Quests on /tg/ are actively contributing to the userbase problems that /qst/ is suffering from, rather than trying to make the board functional.
Once mods start enforcing the use of /qst/, it's likely that the problems (aside from "muh /tg/ traffic" which Quest OPs feel entitled to for some reason) will start to be resolved if the mods start listening to feedback (though at this rate, I'm starting to doubt they ever will, and the problem of quests remaining on /tg/ as well as the problem of /qst/ having some disappointing settings will remain unresolved).
Believe it or not most people complaining about Quests on /tg/ WANT that board to work out AS WELL, if it will mean people will actually use it.
>>535900
>Believe it or not most people complaining about Quests on /tg/ WANT that board to work out AS WELL, if it will mean people will actually use it.
"Or not" is the correct thing to believe, since many of them consistently shitpost in /qst/ as well as /tg/. If they actually wanted it to work out, they wouldn't have followed quests to /qst/ and continued to shitpost at them.
Also, the dozen or so quests still on /tg/ wouldn't be enough to give /qst/ a decent sized userbase. At this point, it would maybe double the userbase, when it really needs to quadruple or more to be considered a "real" board. People like to run on /tg/ because that's where likeminded people who are into /tg/ stuff are. Despite adamant claims to the contrary, the mindset of someone participating in a quest isn't very different from someone who plays RPGs, and most people who quest do other /tg/ stuff too.
>>535900
The userbase problems of /qst/ won't actually change if all of the /tg/ quests move to it, most of those QMs with any large userbase only run once every 1-2 weeks for what is usually a 4-7 hour session, with very few running at the same time. As has been said in other threads, a number of planefag's audience comes from non 4chan sources and has no desire to actually browse for quests not run by planefag, thus the 65-80% of board traffic in less then 10 threads at any given time.
>>535904
Actually, considering that most of those quests have less than 20 unique IPs (Some less than 10 and at least one less than 5), them moving would literally not even be a drop in the mostly empty bucket that is /qst/. Even assuming best case scenario, where not a single one of those questing IPs is overlapping (Meaning a unique IP in one quest is not participating in any other quest) and literally all of their active participants move and continue to actively participate (Not likely), they'd still only be about 100 new ips and a dozen new threads. And let's not kid ourselves and pretend it'd be the best case scenario. More likely it'd be half that many ips actually moving and participating, which means some of those quests would dry up and die, so it would also be less active quests.
Basically, /qst/ is well on its way to being a dead board and an injection of users from /tg/ won't save it.
>>535904
What do you define as a "real" board? Of course a board whose users used to be a subgroup of a larger board's userbase will have a smaller userbase.
If people want to participate in quests, they will go to /qst/. You don't need /tg/'s userbase and as a group you are not entitled to it. If people don't want to open two tabs at once to participate in a quest once it moves to /qst/, that's just tough, but you were never guaranteed their participation in the first place.
Too bad about the shitposters though. All I can do is apologize for them and hope that they tire themselves out soon, since /qst/ is still fairly young, and that the mods start doing their fucking jobs and weeding out the deliberate anti-quest shitposters.
All in all it feels like the /qst/ and /tg/ mods really half-assed the entire implementation of the new board and then just kind of dropped the whole thing and walked away, and now whenever anyone brings up how much of a shit job they did they just delete the posts instead of fixing it.
>>535912
All the more reason for them to stop running on /tg/ in the first place then. They don't even have the excuse of needing the /tg/ userbase if most of their players come from outside 4chan anyway.
Just run an announcement saying "After this I'm moving to /qst/" and be done with it.
>>535917
>You don't need /tg/'s userbase and as a group you are not entitled to it.
Considering that people who quest are part of /tg/'s userbase, that's a pretty arrogant statement.
>All in all it feels like the /qst/ and /tg/ mods really half-assed the entire implementation of the new board and then just kind of dropped the whole thing and walked away, and now whenever anyone brings up how much of a shit job they did they just delete the posts instead of fixing it.
This is 100% true though.
>>535918
What I meant was that you don't need the non-quest-participating portion. People keep saying /qst/ is on its way to being a dead board, which seems like a pretty blind observation.
If you're comparing it directly to /tg/'s userbase of course it's going to be smaller, but if everyone that participates in quests moves there, quest threads should, in theory, maintain 70-80% of their users, accounting for people who might have trickled in from /tg/, so long as people who are interested in joining quests continue to seek them out.
The idea of requiring, and therefore demanding, /tg/'s frontpage real estate for quests to survive seems incredibly defeatist and a bit childish.
>>535900
Alright, I realize now that I was the shitposter in this situation.
Quests have been getting a lot of shit on this board, in /tg/, and in /qst/, and I came into this thread with the assumption that it was just another thread created for the sole purpose of shitting on quests, and I didn't expect anyone here to actually want any kind of actual conversation on the matter. But that's not an excuse to stoop to unnecessarily stirring up shit myself, and I apologize for that.
As for a proper argument, quests on /tg/ is more a matter of not following the rules than doing actual harm. Ctrl + f " quest " on /tg/'s archive right now is only giving me 53 results out of all 1,187 threads. Quests are not a cancer inhibiting others from enjoying the board.
Because of this, it would seem to me that people who are not mods themselves trying to encourage mod action or the quests themselves to move are either sticklers for the rules or have something against quests and are looking at the new board as an opportunity to stir shit up.
>what the fist few weeks of /qst/ felt like.
>>535922
> so long as people who are interested in joining quests continue to seek them out.
Most people who participate in quests didn't start by seeking them out. They happened upon them while on /tg/ (or somewhere else). The chances of a random person stumbling onto an entire board and sticking around is a lot smaller than them stumbling on a single thread and sticking around.
And yes, it's usually just one quest. I'm going to be honest here, I literally haven't participated in a quest in over a year because the ones I used to play (Which I stumbled on from the /tg/ front page and then the catalog) all ended and I haven't seen any new ones that I like. Nobody goes and plays in every quest or even most quests and the only people who actively seek them out are people who are already involved. /qst/ can only lose posters as people get bored or don't find a new quest they like because there's no outside draw to it.
>>535923
Yeah, that's a fair point. I'll be the first to admit that I'm perfectly capable of ignoring quests. I had them filtered before /qst/ became a thing, and I could theoretically filter them again, I just don't believe that I should.
The issue in my eyes isn't that Quests are polluting /tg/ or overtaking the board, though I should point out that /qst/'s creation hasn't been entirely pointless and has served to lower that archive result significantly.
I'm not trying to rules-lawyer 4chan. I'm fully aware that it's not currently against the rules to post quests on /tg/, it just seems to me that it SHOULD be, now that /qst/ exists.
By taking no action, and indeed discouraging conversation and dialogue on the matter by deleting posts relating to it on /tg/, the mods and administration team are encouraging a situation where /qst/ has been introduced but has no real purpose, since its only subject matter still has another home. This only serves to make the issues /qst/ is facing worse, which makes people upset.
Yes, I want quests out of /tg/. I have for a while now. I don't like them for my own reasons, and I was happy to see /qst/ created. But I want the board to work, and I want quests to have a place that they feel is their own, and to that end I want the people who created the board to stop sitting on their hands and actually do something about the divide they've created.
>>535930
That still sounds like speculative pessimism in the early days. Every new sub-board faces the same growing pains that /qst/ is seeing right now.
Surely nobody would have though that you could fill an entire board with Pokémon posts?
If the board actually dies once it's actually up and running properly, then that'll be a problem. But screaming bloody murder that the board is dead when it's only just been made seems to only contribute to its failure without giving it a chance to get started.
I've visited /qst/ since it was created and participated in a few threads myself, even as a usual anti-questfag. It seems like at its induction there's been a big outpouring of creative ideas by people who wouldn't normally have made them in the other environment.
Hardly seems dead to me.
>>535934
The number of posts and unique IPs peaked about a week after it was made and have been steadily declining ever since. The number of actual quests (As opposed to half-baked ideas that get a few posts into a thread and then never update again in any way or blatant shitposting quests that never got a sequel because they were just a one-off insult to the mods or the userbase) has slightly increased, but not by much.
It was a dumb idea that was poorly implemented by a mod who demonstrated severe lack of knowledge of the subject matter and the numbers on it keep getting worse.
>>535938
It is because of all of the halfbaked ideas and few actual quests that I really wish they'd do away with the 72 hour rule.
>>535944
Did they ever turn thread deletion back on after that one time?
>>535917
I just realized that I might have caused some confusion on questfag origins. I was using KCQ and planefag as an example of a high traffic thread, not of where all the questfags come from. Most QMs struggle to have 20 separate posters in their threads when they run. Aside from planefag, most QMs get their users from 4chan itself in general, with /tg/ providing most of them.
>>535944
The IDs ruin it for me.
>>535964
What's the matter with the IDs? I'd imagine that this is one of the few boards where IDs are super important? Is it so you, as OP, can samefag?
>>535966
It's so I don't have to wear a mandatory trip.
I don't samefag, I don't fuck up votes, and I have no intention to do so. As proof of my un-samefaggotry and firm conviction in the untampered voting process I will even say that I am >>535708, so as to not inflate the amount of posters in this thread who are against the IDs.
I just don't want a trip.
>>535967
Yeah I feel like that's reasonable, it always did strike me as a superfluous addition considering QMs already had access to tripcodes. Was vote rigging ever a big deal in Quests?
>>535967
Yeah, but the IDs are per thread so it isn't the same as a trip. The problem with trips is you remember them tomorrow. Your ID stops being tied to you as soon as you leave that thread.
This really is one of those "If you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear" things. Sure YOU don't samefag, and now thanks to the IDs nobody else does either.
>>535970
Why would I be any happier about people knowing who I am in three hours than who I am tomorrow?
>>535969
Once in a while, yeah. And you can't really catch it a lot of times because there's also a pretty common phenomenon of lurkers who only post during big, important votes (You know, the ones also most likely to get samefagged) and don't discuss things or vote otherwise.
>>535956
Even planefag lost like 2/3 of his usual IP count in the move to /qst/
>>535980
That leftover 1/3 is still a lot of posters.
>>535982
The problem is that you're discussing a single outlier case of a QM with a lot of posters. There are one or two other outlier cases who get a huge number of posters, and in each case they also lost posters. A new QM who has to struggle to get 4-8 posters in /tg/ has no hope of any real player base in /qst/ where the qualities looked for in a quest are even more stringent and specific.
And the whole 'leeching off a board' is a ridiculous concept. It's not like those people who might find a quest interesting are not going to leave /tg/ forever.
>>535982
And smaller QMs are fucked
>>536491
I'd like to fuck a QM.
>>536502
Try XS, I'm sure you can handle it.
>>536502
>implying /qa/ and /qst/ didn't fuck all the QMs
>>536502
Are you a top or a bottom?
>>536804
I don't know what either of those are.
Woah, glad to see we've had some discussion here!
I really do want an answer super badly though mods, so I'm gunna bump my thread again. Hope ya don't mind at all, I just think it's still a pretty relevant topic!
>>538644
It's okay Cirno.
If you don't mind, I'm gonna draw a bunch of Cirnos and flood the thread until it hits 350 posts and stops bumping, because I think your thread is stupid and the mods aren't going to reply to it. At that time, my may make a new thread, okay, Hon'?
I'll also draw some Heathers, and some of Walfas's nameless character because I like them and their designs are really similar.
Oh nooooo!
>>538785
Wow, that makes you sound kind of mad, friend. Spamming is against the rules, you know?
Still, I appreciate new Cirno images! And then I can just remake the thread! Everyone wins, yay!
>>538831
Call the cops. You were spamming too. Just slowly, you baka.
Zun's official art is so bad oh my god
I forgot all about Cirno's cut little White Mage Triangles on the bottom of her skirt whoops.
>>538849
>White Mage
Man, that's the Shinsengumi uniform.
>>538941
Oh! Cirno's a Rurouni Kenshin reference? That's hilarious. I didn't even realize!
>>539937
You're right. Sorry.
>>538839
What a cute baka, saved.
B-b-b-b-b-bump!
Looks like I don't have many pictures of Cirno saved.
Desperate to save your complaint thread?
If all the quests were to be moved to /qst/, would it be active enough to warrant being a full board? I think so, but with all the quests on /tg/ digging in their heels, I don't think they're going to stop the shitposting any time soon even if they manage to "win" and kill /qst/
>>542250
No, it wouldn't because QMs aren't active 24-7.
The 7-8 that haven't moved aren't going to make any appreciable impact on the board. If you could magically create and move 100 QM it still wouldn't increase the board activity appreciably, because they wouldn't all be active at the same time. You'd be lucky to get 10-20 active at the same time, and even then, they only run for 5-8 hours. Since the players are lacking, there wouldn't be enough discussion in the threads to keep them alive. The 72 hour autosage doesn't make a thread drop off the board for two days. That's how slow the board is now.
>>542251
all what protagonists can do in this manga is : run away from enemies or be kicked by them , pitiful o.0 ; hunter x hunter is an manga about fights , but : 90% are made of dialogues like in a fucking talk show or a soap opera , 5% made of cowardly escapes of protagonists from their opponents , 3% is made of protagonists that are humiliated by their opponents , the last 2% is made of poor and really labored victories , that always cost the dignity or the health of the winner , seriously , this mangaanime only deserve to stop and be forgotten ; one more thing : after almost one year of pause ,this mangaka still have the disrespectful damn effrontery to do nothing but palm off the usual slew of dialogues ; the biggest humiliation suffered by that handicapped weak of gon , the decisive attack that allowed hisoka to win against him , hisoka said to gon something like: " look to the right " , and what gon decided to do ?? but of course he listened to hisoka , after all he is an opponent , so the most logic thing to do can only be to listen to him -.- , here is the moronic reasoning provided by the rotten brain of gon, something like : " hisoka is my enemy , so if he order me to do something , i have of course to...DO AS HE SAY , because naturally , listen to the order of my enemy is the most logic thing to do ,i mean is obvious , since he is my enemy , then if he tell me to do something , it can only be for my sake , so i absolutely have to listen to him " ; the protagonists and co-protagonists, including main enemies ,physically look like a bunch of side characters , they look pretty anonymous and sloppy -.- , ESPECIALLY gon -.- ; hisoka's standards : a loser that can't decently win a fight even when use all his strength and chose a fishing rod as weapon and a coward that can't be strong if not by stealing the power of other people , wow -.- ;
>>542433
???
>>542667
When you don't have an argument, copypasta.
>>542675
While it is technically true that I don't have an argument, I am also not the person who was originally participating in the argument (and that is why). I just like dropping in with some copypasta to confuse people.
>>542683
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>>542683
The only people you'll confuse are idiots though. And they're not that hard to confuse.
>>542698
Yes, exactly. I think you're underestimating just how many idiots are on this site. Copypasta is very easy to use, too, so it's very little work for a lot of payoff.
>9 quests on /tg/
>one was started today
>>>/tg//47474880
why are quests being STARTED on /tg/? isn't the questfag excuse that they want to continue on /tg/ when they started there?
>>544070
No. /tg/ is where the players are.
People don't need an excuse. Quests are still /tg/ according to the mods. Considering how the people who got /qst/ created acted on /qst/ when the feedback thread was still up, the mods are right to ignore their tantrums, because all they did was prove they were entitled, whiny, lying assholes.
/qst/ is a dying board with nothing to support it. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that assholes got it made as containment and mods decided that those people were not worth catering to after they came to the board they supposedly hated and congratulated themselves for ruining other people's fun.
Seems like the plan backfired.
>>544070
Pretty sure no one ever said that.
Explain yourselves, questfags.
>>545409
That picture is a revisionist lie that was disproven rather easily in the very same thread. The only reason it was made on /tg/ where it would be quickly deleted is so that anti-questfags would not have a record that would not require you to look through deleted posts just to actually see the head-in-the-sand behavior that they committed after being proven wrong.
>>545423
>That picture is a revisionist lie that was disproven rather easily in the very same thread.
The sup/tg/ /qst/ archive provider blatantly accused someone of sabotaging the /qst/ archives.
The questfag party line is that it's the anti-questfags who are happy with /qst/ existing, because it means no quest threads on /tg/.
This leaves nobody else who would sabotage the /qst/ archive except for questfags getting vengeance on /qst/ goers because they want the board shut down.
What part of this is a lie, and what argument was used to disprove it? Nothing you wrote makes much sense.
>>545450
It was all the way back around 2012 when the sabotage happened, /qst/ wasn't even around back then. They even provided a link to show when it happened.
>>545458
Are you trying to pretend that the 2016-04-27 news update listed on that URL posted there is wholly invented and is not in fact referring to a series of sabotages that occurred around that particular date?
Because you appear to be referring to a completely different sabotage.
>>545458
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/index.html?post=540
Forgot the link.
>>545460
I have never seen any kind of sabotage being done in the /qst/ portion of the sup/tg/ archive. Questfags aren't ones to downvote stuff they actually like without needing a reminder like that. The link I have provided shows why LL made that reminder in the first place.
>>545472
>I have never seen any kind of sabotage being done in the /qst/ portion of the sup/tg/ archive.
Well THE PROVIDER is saying there was.
Are you calling him a liar?
>>545474
No, It was my understanding that he made that announcement because of precedent from 4 years ago by some anti-questfags.
>>545479
>"N-no, he's not talking about CURRENT events! He's talking about an event that happened four years ago!"
Occam called, he has a razor he's been meaning to lend you.
>>545483
And you are not listening. Now, I got a thread on /tg/ about sweaty bitches to read through, so have a good day.
>>545488
I am hearing you quite thoroughly, you're just asking me to believe that the provider is referring to an event where one guy went full autism 4 years ago, as opposed to a current event where he is clearly asking people to stop "mindlessly downvoting every entry and archiving shitposts." Implying that they are. Right that moment. And then asking me to take your word for it that he's not actually talking about.
Prove that no sabotage occurred around last month, or ask the provider for clarification if you want to disprove the image. "No way dude, he's actually talking about THIS" when he's obviously talking about present events is absurdity.
You will invent any narrative necessary to stem backlash, even when you're caught blatantly redhanded wrecking your own community out of petty vengeance. Questfags are cancer.
>>545497
4/27/16 - the day the /qst/ archive was made. LL asks that people not to mindlessly downvote, he is not telling people to stop with the mindless downvoting as there was none going on at the time. That it took you guys a month to make this point a part of your argument is slightly absurd in my limited view of the world. The most recent sabotaging that I can think of archiving on sup/tg/ was last year with some guy misarchiving and downvoting stuff he thought was not supposed to be on /tg/, which included quests and some stuff slightly related to /a/.
>>544108
>players are "on /tg/"
>/qst/ is "dying"
>mods never moved quests from /tg/
>questfags see no connection
>>545409
Jesus Christ. Questfags should just be permabanned
>>545458
Questcucks don't use logic. They just make shit up as it suits them.
>>545729
Considering that anti-questfags literally continued to shitpost against quests in /qst/ and have repeatedly vandalized the archives (To the point where large rangebans have been necessary to curb the shit), I don't find it hard to believe that they keep vandalizing the archives.
>>545735
See also
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/index.html?post=606
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/index.html?post=540
>>545409
Lack of anonymity is also a feature people do not like about /qst/.
>>545732
As was proven not at all by every antiquestfag stating "quests take up 50% of /tg/", "quests cover the entire first page and nothing but quests do", "all of /tg/ hates quests", "quests knock things off the board while remaining on the board", "questfags aren't people who play /tg/ games", "quest players and quest masters wanted this board", and a dozen other baseless, easily disproved lies.
Quest hating delusional loudmouths on /qa/ got the board made as an attempt at containment, and were so obnoxious about it in /qst/ the mods stopped listening to them. There are a variety of reasons people don't run quests on /qst/ and the main ones that remain and are impossible for you to change are that the players don't like it, and there are not enough people who run quests and not enough players who will enjoy the section of people who run on /qst/ to support the board by themselves.
Even if you forced the QMs on /tg/ to run on /qst/ it won't affect the board one bit - it will remain slow and sparsely populated. Despite everything people who hate quests claim, there are not enough quests and quest runners to support an entire board by themselves.
There have never been more than 20 quests active on /tg at a time (less than 12% of the possible board threads on /tg/). There has never been a front page full of quests only. Quest threads fall off the board at the same rate as every other thread. Quest threads don't force currently used threads off the board magically, those threads die from disuse, just like quest threads do when they are not posted in.
Basically, it all comes down to a small segment of loud, obnoxious people who hate other people having fun.
And finally:
DEFINITION OF A ROLEPLAYING GAME:
A role-playing game (RPG and sometimes roleplaying game) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting.
The fact that it is a group of players directing a single character through a narrative does not change anything.
>>542251
You know, you don't need to be active all the time to get a full board. Check out /ic/ or /an/ or /p/ or /x/. Slow, but they stick around. Even if you had five QMs on in a day, that would be justification enough. In my mind at least.
this whole thing just feels poorly thought out
>>546990
Agreed. Quests need to be on /qst/, not fucking /tg/
>>538839
You finally got a 9!
>>547303
So what's next on the list of things you hate and need to remove from /tg/?
>>547732
I dunno. Just spitballing. Could 40k be on /toy/?
Because that would be hilarious.
>>547732
Remove all tabletop games to /ta/. Leave quests on /tg/, since they're unable to move.
