>4chan isn't an anime/Japanese culture focused website because the boards that don't deal with these subjects are more numerous and popular!
The off-topic section is usually the largest in forums that discuss a specific topic. The boards that aren't about anime/Japanese culture are off-topic and the site would lose nothing if they were all deleted.
In other words; the people who don't come to 4chan because of interest in something related to Japan and expect the site to adapt to them instead of the other are literally illegal immigrants destroying our culture and heritage.
>instead of the other way around
Fix'd.
From the FAQ:
"4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images."
"Different boards are dedicated to different topics"
4chan is not an anime site.
Agreed 100%. Couldn't have said it better myself.
The cancerous Chanology faggots ruined everything. We could still be a comfy site about nerdy hobbies if not for them.
>>365191
>>365194
Your own homemade pics doesn't prove anything.
>>365195
I'm pretty sure it was moot who wrote that himself since it was shown in the 10th anniversary panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QRnufms-0
Even wikipedia acknowledges that anime/Japanese culture is a major influence on the site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
>Launched on October 1, 2003, its boards were originally used for posting pictures and discussing manga and anime, as the site was modeled on Japanese imageboards, particularly 2chan. The site quickly became popular and expanded, though much of 4chan's content still features otaku, anime, and other Japanese cultural influences.
>>365198
The official FAQ and the section "What is 4chan?" is all that matters, not some sort of slideshow at a con or crappy wikipedia article.
>>365200
Both were written down by moot, so they're both correct.
>4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images.
>Different boards are dedicated to different topics
That doesn't imply the focus of the site isn't Japanese culture.
>>365221
>Both were written down by moot.
Who?
>>365221
moot is no longer admin, he's irrelevant now
>That doesn't imply the focus of the site isn't Japanese culture.
It doesn't imply that the focus of the site is Japanese culture either.
>>365226
Well, he handed the site to Hiro in the belief that it would "go back to it's roots".
>>365228
Hiro has never responded to that statement, so moot might get disappointed.
Hiro is japanese, but that doesn't mean he owns a hug pillow and watches moe anime.
>>365178
Why do you autists keep making these threads? Why are you so butthurt? This is why people hate anime faggots. You never shut up about your stupid fucking hobby and try to rub it in everyone's face all the time just like horse fuckers.
>>365252
They really do think they have special status above all other boards because of some legacy news post moot made 5 or 10 years ago.
>>365226
>moot is no longer admin, he's irrelevant now
No, he's the founder, so he will always be relevant to the site, reddit-kun
>>365284
To be fair they do get treated better by mods
>>365284
They do. Does that make you sad? Wanna cry?
There, there. It's not the end of the world.
>>365639
Depends on the board, moderation is also not board specific so generally speaking anime post are usually given leniency when they're bordering on offtopic
I never felt that people should be tar and feathered for using off-board images.
With that being said, the whole "it started as an anime site therefor every board should be consumed with anime" is incorrect. If you want to use anime images then just use them. no need to make up stupid excuses as if you have diplomatic immunity simply because the owner was a weeb at one point.
>>365639
>On their weeb boards they are gods. Outside of those they are curious relics from 4chan's early history.
We are the original inhabitants of the site, you shitskin parasite. Have some more respect. We built this shit.
4chan = Europe.
Weebs = Native Europeans.
Normalfags = Muslims and African immigrants.
>>365652
>We are the original inhabitants of the site, you shitskin parasite. Have some more respect. We built this shit.
Nope. At the very beginning of the site FYAD caused anime/random to split into /a/ and /b/. And FYAD didn't give two shits about your anime hence the trolling that caused the need for a board split. From the very beginning non-weebs have been here. Maybe you should kindly lurk more before talking about 4chan or do some basic research into the history of 4chan.
>>365654
What a bunch of bullshit. /a/ and /b/ were split because moot wanted to give people a place to talk about anime without being swarmed by irrelevant topics. Regardless, anime discussion, anime memes and other stuff related to Japanese culture were still very present on /b/ even after that. Stop with the bullshit, faggot.
>>365656
>What a bunch of bullshit. /a/ and /b/ were split because moot wanted to give people a place to talk about anime without being swarmed by irrelevant topics.
Sure, if that's what you want to believe. Ask anyone who was actually around at that time and it's because weebs got asshurt that FYAD came in and trolled while not giving a shit about your precious anime.
>Regardless, anime discussion, anime memes and other stuff related to Japanese culture were still very present on /b/ even after that. Stop with the bullshit, faggot.
No. Not really, man. I don't know if you ever went on /b/ at that time, but it wasn't full of anime discussion. You had shit like DESU and other shit, but those were usually jokes or mocking of said things, not because they enjoyed them. Even so, obviously FYAD was not the only userbase to come over from SA (ADTRW came over since that's the crowd moot was with) and they enjoyed it, so of course there was some crossover. Imageboards as a whole have a very eclectic userbase. But that doesn't mean /b/ loved anime as a whole. On a whole they typically didn't. The ones who liked anime went to /a/. The ones who wanted to talk about shit like Warhammer Wednesdays, spooky threads, and all of the other non-weeb interests prior to boards being made for them went to /b/. Hence the need for an early separation between the two.
Even at the very beginning you guys weren't really a majority. Even less so now with the various boards related to interests outside of yours.
>>365659
>Sure, if that's what you want to believe. Ask anyone who was actually around at that time and it's because weebs got asshurt that FYAD came in and trolled while not giving a shit about your precious anime
That was not the main reason the split happened and you should stop being retarded already. It would happen at one point or another. /b/ was always very chaotic and trying to have actual discussion about things there was almost impossible.
>No. Not really, man. I don't know if you ever went on /b/ at that time, but it wasn't full of anime discussion.
What "time" are you talking about? I wasn't there since the beginning obviously and I don't think you were either, but /b/ still discussed anime regularly and the majority of their memes were related to anime and other Japanese culture stuff up until 2007.
>You had shit like DESU and other shit, but those were usually jokes or mocking of said things
Yeah, no. If DESU is the first thing that comes to mind when this is mentioned, then you're just a newfag pretending to be an oldfag. The majority of /b/'s memes had something to do with Jap culture. See pic Even longcat and pedobear came straight from 2chan.
>Imageboards as a whole have a very eclectic userbase. But that doesn't mean /b/ loved anime as a whole
[citation needed]
Cont.
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>>365688
>On a whole they typically didn't. The ones who liked anime went to /a/.
The burden of proof is on you on this one. Like I said, I wasn't there since 2003, but /b/ was still pretty "weeb" until Chanology happened. Anime images/image macros were pretty much everywhere and anime discussion happened regularly. I would say people who had an interest in anime and Japanese culture were still the majority. That was during 2006-2007 by the way. I came here in 2006.
>The ones who wanted to talk about shit like Warhammer Wednesdays, spooky threads, and all of the other non-weeb interests prior to boards being made for them went to /b/. Hence the need for an early separation between the two.
Wow, it's almost like it's impossible for people to have more than one interest!
>>365693
damn...
>>365688
>That was not the main reason the split happened and you should stop being retarded already. It would happen at one point or another. /b/ was always very chaotic and trying to have actual discussion about things there was almost impossible.
But it was a reason. And a big reason behind why /a/ is still "elitist" today. It was a reaction to stop being trolled by the FYAD invaders who would go on to become /b/tards. Hence why no other board acts that way, weeb or otherwise.
>What "time" are you talking about? I wasn't there since the beginning obviously and I don't think you were either, but /b/ still discussed anime regularly and the majority of their memes were related to anime and other Japanese culture stuff up until 2007.
I'm talking about anytime pre-2006. And /b/ didn't discuss anime regularly. Shit, go hit moot up on Twitter or see if there's any old mods still left in IRC and ask them yourself. /a/ was for anime, /b/ was the general dumping ground for all non-weeb interests. Hence why shit clogging up /b/ a la Warhammer Wednesdays and shit led to the creation of other boards.
>Yeah, no. If DESU is the first thing that comes to mind when this is mentioned, then you're just a newfag pretending to be an oldfag. The majority of /b/'s memes had something to do with Jap culture. See pic Even longcat and pedobear came straight from 2chan.
Most of those in pic related aren't even related to anime. Or do you wanna explain it to me? Those 2 ain't the majority there, pal. Most of them aren't anime related at all. And pedobear isn't from 2chan. It was used as a cute bear mascot for some shit in Japan and 4chan added on the pedo context making pedobear. Or are we now including anything made by a weeb (like the guy who even knew of the mascot before saying "lol pedobear") to suddenly be weeb related by default?
>>365694
>The burden of proof is on you on this one. Like I said, I wasn't there since 2003, but /b/ was still pretty "weeb" until Chanology happened. Anime images/image macros were pretty much everywhere and anime discussion happened regularly. I would say people who had an interest in anime and Japanese culture were still the majority. That was during 2006-2007 by the way. I came here in 2006.
Proof? As I mentioned last post, go ask moot himself or an old mod if there's any left on IRC. Or any namefag that's been around since then like Negi or Shii (who was a mod at one point), and those guys. Maybe even Snacks if you catch him doing his radio show over on /r9k/ like he used to. I forget the day or if he even does it anymore. It's mainly the weebs who are the old guard these days and still around from those days. And most of those have been around for years longer than the current mods.
And I don't know what you saw, since I was here in 2006 and I don't remember weebs being a big thing at all outside of /a/ and their boards. Yeah, I saw them on /b/, but /b/ was always a melting pot of everything. I didn't see it much at all. Pictures of an anime character doesn't automatically mean "SEE? IT'S A WEEABOO! I FUCKING TOLD YOU! WAPANESE LULZ!".
>Wow, it's almost like it's impossible for people to have more than one interest!
People into wargaming and those dudes aren't typically into anime. It's more popular on /tg/ NOW than it ever was early on. And that's just because weebs come over to make quest threads. fa/tg/uys are neckbeards of a different sort than weebs. Half of them have been playing these games since before anime was even popular or aired in the US, much less rabid fans of it like half the /a/ crowd who watched moeshit or Toonami early on. And, yes, despite the bitching half of /a/ got into anime through Cartoon Network airing it.
I like where this thread is going.
>>365697
>But it was a reason. And a big reason behind why /a/ is still "elitist" today. It was a reaction to stop being trolled by the FYAD invaders who would go on to become /b/tards. Hence why no other board acts that way, weeb or otherwise.
I don't know about that, but to me, it seemed like /a/ was elitist because of the Gaiafag epidemic a the time, not because of a split that happened very early in the site's creation.
>I'm talking about anytime pre-2006. And /b/ didn't discuss anime regularly
Well, I saw those threads with decent frequency. They were discussed just as much if not even more than any other interest there.
>. Shit, go hit moot up on Twitter or see if there's any old mods still left in IRC and ask them yourself. /a/ was for anime, /b/ was the general dumping ground for all non-weeb interests.
It was the dumping ground for ANYTHING. Random means anything goes. Pure chaos. A split would have to happen at one point or another.
>Most of those in pic related aren't even related to anime
I said anime OR Japanese culture. WRYYYY is from Jojo. TEH REI is from Evangelion, Waha~ is from a VN, Pedobear was used in a different context on 2chan but was still from 2chan regardless, etc.
>Or are we now including anything made by a weeb (like the guy who even knew of the mascot before saying "lol pedobear") to suddenly be weeb related by default?
If it came from Japan, then it's Japanese culture related.
>>365706
>And I don't know what you saw, since I was here in 2006 and I don't remember weebs being a big thing at all outside of /a/ and their boards. Yeah, I saw them on /b/, but /b/ was always a melting pot of everything. I didn't see it much at all. Pictures of an anime character doesn't automatically mean "SEE? IT'S A WEEABOO! I FUCKING TOLD YOU! WAPANESE LULZ!".
What definition of "weeb" are you even using? I mean people who had an interest in anime/manga or something else related to Japan, not people who want to be Japanese.
>People into wargaming and those dudes aren't typically into anime.
Warhammer was popular on /b/, yeah, but not more popular than anime from what I've seen.
>>365715
>I don't know about that, but to me, it seemed like /a/ was elitist because of the Gaiafag epidemic a the time, not because of a split that happened very early in the site's creation.
That happened later. To be fair, /a/ just got continuously fucked over. First the reason for the split, then Gaia, and all this other shit. Just look at what they watch now. It's basically just little girls doing dumb shit. /a/ is in need of the Ol' Yeller treatment after the shit they've gone through. Hence why the older weebs don't even touch that cesspit anymore. Maybe Negi, but even then I doubt it.
>Well, I saw those threads with decent frequency. They were discussed just as much if not even more than any other interest there.
I saw lots of other threads discussed there. Then again, anything used to be discussed more on old /b/ compared to the permanent porn roll threads and "rate my dick" threads that /soc/ did nothing to alleviate.
>It was the dumping ground for ANYTHING. Random means anything goes. Pure chaos. A split would have to happen at one point or another.
A split might have happened later. If FYAD hadn't come in then maybe not. 4chan may very well have just stayed a niche little anime focused site. FYAD flooding the site with new blood and people who wanted to talk about shit besides anime or even just troll is what sparked off any expansion at all. So, in that sense, some weebs (assuming they aren't just parroting shit) are correct in saying it's what led us to the massive site it is and hence their dislike of their niche basically being taken away. But the smart ones have plenty of sites that are smaller and weeb focused to go to. Hell, I even use one of them and I'm not one.
Cont.
>>365715
>I said anime OR Japanese culture. WRYYYY is from Jojo. TEH REI is from Evangelion, Waha~ is from a VN, Pedobear was used in a different context on 2chan but was still from 2chan regardless, etc.
That's a few. Most still aren't related to it. The few that are related to it are related to it because /b/'s a melting pot. Elements from all boards could be found there. And Teh Rei is a fucking cock. Yeah, it came from Evangelion, but to claim it as weeb territory is stretching it.
>>365719
>What definition of "weeb" are you even using? I mean people who had an interest in anime/manga or something else related to Japan, not people who want to be Japanese.
I'm using it as a shortened form of weeaboo/wapanese. And look at most of the boards that exist that were once weeb focused and expanded. /f/ for instance has a lot of older people, and it's hardly anime focused anymore. And they have people old enough to still constantly ensure everyone gets their daily dose. Which is quite the accomplishment at this point. And /n/ was about Japanese trains/railroad system and people stopped giving a fuck and discuss other types of transportation now. The weeb stuff died off.
>Warhammer was popular on /b/, yeah, but not more popular than anime from what I've seen.
Not more popular than anime, but popular enough to warrant a board. We already had one for anime at the time anyway so it's not like they'd make another if /b/ had a lot of it. But /b/ always focused on other shit like raids, trolling, and general bullshit, I don't remember seeing this big focus on anime there aside from the average spillover.
>>365721
>That happened later. To be fair, /a/ just got continuously fucked over. First the reason for the split, then Gaia, and all this other shit.
Well, but do you have any proof of /a/ being "super elitist" right as the split happened? /a/ only started getting REALLY elitist because of Gaia. Before, it was pretty much just /b/ with an actual topic.
>I saw lots of other threads discussed there.
Obviously. I mean that in comparison to other interests discussed on /b/, anime was the most popular one.
>A split might have happened later. If FYAD hadn't come in then maybe not.
You know, I can't really comment on this "FYAD" shit, but a few vocal minority of trolls from outside communities doesn't really seem like an actual reason to split the board to me, just a coincidence. I know that "wapanese" was filtered into "weeb" because of a few people abusing it during mid 2005, but outside of that, there were no problems. People who complained about anime on /b/ were very rare.
>I'm using it as a shortened form of weeaboo/wapanese
You didn't really answer the question.
>>365723
>That's a few. Most still aren't related to it.
I circled the ones that are for you.
>And Teh Rei is a fucking cock. Yeah, it came from Evangelion, but to claim it as weeb territory is stretching it.
Only people who watched Evangelion will get the "joke". Otherwise it's just a cock with blue hair and some name you don't know about.
>I don't remember seeing this big focus on anime there aside from the average spillover.
There wasn't a focus because the board didn't have any topic, but it was still a major influence.
>>365730
>Well, but do you have any proof of /a/ being "super elitist" right as the split happened? /a/ only started getting REALLY elitist because of Gaia. Before, it was pretty much just /b/ with an actual topic.
Depends on how you define super elitist. It certainly got them started on that train. And it only worsened as time went on and they tried to keep out outsiders who would just lurk and act even more elitist to fit in until we got the literal manchildren the board is now. But, no, it wasn't nearly as bad or as unjustified as it is now.
>You know, I can't really comment on this "FYAD" shit, but a few vocal minority of trolls from outside communities doesn't really seem like an actual reason to split the board to me, just a coincidence. I know that "wapanese" was filtered into "weeb" because of a few people abusing it during mid 2005, but outside of that, there were no problems. People who complained about anime on /b/ were very rare.
Not all that rare. And it wasn't a minority of trolls. ADTRW (the anime subforum on SA moot got the original users from) was the first group, and instantly FYAD (the shitposting subforum of SA, (now includes all of their subforums() wanted to troll this new area with low moderation enforcement on the board they could get away with it: anime/random. They were half of the original userbase.
>There wasn't a focus because the board didn't have any topic, but it was still a major influence.
A little bit early on. But /b/ was always the irreverent board. So, I don't think they cared much for anime, just took the shit they found funny and corrupted shit to be funny. Such as taking a harmless bear and making it pedobear. Or using a cock with blue hair. Or any of that shit. YTMND, FYAD, and tons of other sites had just as much influence. I wouldn't call anime or Japanese culture its main focus, even early on. It was just one more thing added to the pile of chaos.
>>365734
>Not all that rare. And it wasn't a minority of trolls. ADTRW (the anime subforum on SA moot got the original users from) was the first group, and instantly FYAD (the shitposting subforum of SA, (now includes all of their subforums() wanted to troll this new area with low moderation enforcement on the board they could get away with it: anime/random. They were half of the original userbase.
Like I said, I can't really comment on that, but that still doesn't seem like an actual reason to split the board to me. How would you explain anime and Japanese culture still being a major influence on /b/ even after that happened if it was as bad as you're saying?
>Such as taking a harmless bear and making it pedobear
The pedo association came from a thread on 2chan actually. It was used in a different context in general there still. 4chan decided to latch on the pedo thing and make it a meme.
>>365738
Forgot to quote this part:
>I wouldn't call anime or Japanese culture its main focus, even early on. It was just one more thing added to the pile of chaos.
You can't have a "main focus" on anything on a board that doesn't have a topic. "Serious anime discussion" took place on /a/ mainly, yeah, but that doesn't mean /b/ wasn't full of people with an interest in anime or Japanese culture.
>>365738
>Like I said, I can't really comment on that, but that still doesn't seem like an actual reason to split the board to me. How would you explain anime and Japanese culture still being a major influence on /b/ even after that happened if it was as bad as you're saying?
Because it wasn't a "major influence". And even then it was done for laughs by proto-/b/tards, not because "I HATE ANIME". They were indifferent. And it just clearly showed that 4chan wasn't gonna be the little niche shit moot had planned. It was clear a bunch of people who didn't care about anime had come to the site in droves and taken root on anime/random and wanted a place to discuss it. So, it was better for moot to just separate the boards. So, partly because of trolling, and partly due to what you said because the demographic had changed and had to be made way for.
>The pedo association came from a thread on 2chan actually. It was used in a different context in general there still. 4chan decided to latch on the pedo thing and make it a meme.
I didn't know that. I always thought we were the guys who tacked that on there.
>>365740
>You can't have a "main focus" on anything on a board that doesn't have a topic. "Serious anime discussion" took place on /a/ mainly, yeah, but that doesn't mean /b/ wasn't full of people with an interest in anime or Japanese culture.
You can have prevailing trends. Like the Warhammer threads leading to /tg/, or spooky threads leading to /x/, or pony threads leading to /mlp/.
And /b/ did have people with an interest in anime and Japan, but it was drowned out by those who didn't give a shit and just called them weeaboos. Even early on. So, the idea that 4chan is some sort of anime focused site or focused on Japanese culture is retarded. That may have been the intent by moot himself, but that FYAD migration pretty much infused it with enough new blood that it became about far more than that simply because the smaller demographic of weebs got flooded by people who wanted to use 4chan to troll, escape SA's overly harsh moderation, or just talk anonymously and enjoy the novelty.
And that demographic surge happened long before these kids crying about "4CHAN IS A SECRET CLUBHOUSE FOR MY ANNIEMAYMAYS!" were even on 4chan.
>>365742
>Because it wasn't a "major influence"
But it fucking was. Just because /b/ wasn't full of anime discussion on every page doesn't mean anime and other Japanese-related things weren't a major part of their "culture". Remember that you can talk about ANYTHING on /b/. Random means anything goes.
>I didn't know that. I always thought we were the guys who tacked that on there.
The pedo thing was in just one thread and didn't really become a meme over there. 4chan elevated it into meme status.
>>365746
>And /b/ did have people with an interest in anime and Japan, but it was drowned out by those who didn't give a shit and just called them weeaboos
Again: [citation needed]
It's impossible to search for demographics of that period, but based on my experience I would say the majority of /b/ was "weeb" up until 2007. Anime images, image macros, memes, etc and other Japanese-related stuff were a very common sight there.
>>365747
>But it fucking was. Just because /b/ wasn't full of anime discussion on every page doesn't mean anime and other Japanese-related things weren't a major part of their "culture". Remember that you can talk about ANYTHING on /b/. Random means anything goes.
It was in a sense. But that's not a solid reason for why this is a Japanese focused site or an anime one like many claim. Because SA also heavily influenced 4chan, so did YTMND, so did Newgrounds and a million other sites around at that time. Yet we don't call this an SA type site. Or a flash site. That was merely one influence on /b/ among many, many others.
>>365749
>Again: [citation needed]
The fact that Wapanese was such a popular insult hurled at anime fans that it had to be filtered and hence came weeaboo and more recently weeb. There was always a sizeable portion of /b/ that thought anime fans were fags. I personally don't give a shit. I'm just arguing against the notion that that's what the site's about when even at the beginning it got rocked off that course and turned into something very different than what moot had originally planned.
>>365752
>The fact that Wapanese was such a popular insult hurled at anime fans that it had to be filtered and hence came weeaboo and more recently weeb. There was always a sizeable portion of /b/ that thought anime fans were fags.
Maybe, but they were just a vocal minority. moot himself said that "in the first two or three years, it was very much steeped in Japanese culture and anime and video games and people who were hobbyists with a keen interest of Japan."
It was when Chanology happened that anime and Japanese culture started becoming less relevant on 4chan.
>>365755
>Maybe, but they were just a vocal minority. moot himself said that "in the first two or three years, it was very much steeped in Japanese culture and anime and video games and people who were hobbyists with a keen interest of Japan."
They weren't a vocal minority on /b/. /b/ was basically THE board for people who didn't care about the other shit at the time like /a/ and all those others. 4chan's theme as a whole reflected that quote. Even the people on those boards. But /b/ is what drew in people and became the haven of people who didn't care about that anime or Japanese stuff, hence why all the boards spawned from it never had anything to do with anime and the users were more prone to insulting fans of it. /b/ was basically the outcast colony that grew larger than it was ever meant to until it overtook the site. It became the largest board over time and most of those people enjoyed 4chan for many other reasons, anime not being the biggest one. And now weebs are pissed off because there's been a demographic shift. Or, rather, /a/ faggots are mad about it because the other weebs are cool and don't care. /a/ is busy watching moe shit, so of course they have time to run over and complain because someone called him a faggot for having a waifu and posting about how deep and meaningful his Chinese cartoon about schoolgirls doing schoolgirl things is.
>>365758
>They weren't a vocal minority on /b/
I mean the type of people who acted like fags and complained about anime there. I didn't really see this happening very much there during 2006-2007.
>But /b/ is what drew in people and became the haven of people who didn't care about that anime or Japanese stuff
Yet they were still the majority there up until 2007. I browsed it during that time and moot's words on that confirm it as well.
>>365762
Oh, and here's the rest of moot's quote by the way:
"4chan has gone through different arcs in its lifetime. I think maybe, with a Japanese owner, it'll go back to its roots. When it started, in the first two or three years, it was very much steeped in Japanese culture and anime and video games and people who were hobbyists with a keen interest of Japan. And that gave way to what we think of as the golden age of the /b/ random board where it became this progenitor, this wellspring of internet culture and memes and whatnot. I don't even know what I would call the third or most recent arc. It's settled into being a broad image-centric discussion site. But I wouldn't be surprised if 4chan goes back to its roots and doubles down on just being very nerdy and some of the activist tinge moves on to communities that are better suited to that."
He's clearly talking about /b/.
>>365762
>Yet they were still the majority there up until 2007. I browsed it during that time and moot's words on that confirm it as well.
Not really. Maybe in terms of boards, but even then it's cutting it close. /ck/, /tg/, /b/, /v/, and plenty of others weren't really full of those kinds of people. If anything as time went on people grew tired of the weeb shit and wanted boards for more and more things that were not that.
And prior to all of these other boards being made, especially early on, the board for all that was /b/. Hence why it was the board that blew up and not /a/. Because most of the people went to /b/ to discuss shit that wasn't anime. Whether they were weebs or people who didn't care about/like being a Japanophile. The fact was that nobody was content seeing it remain an anime site. At least not the users. Hence why all these boards had to be made over /b/. Full of cooking threads? Better make /ck/ to clear it out. Warhammer all the time? Better make /tg/. Full of weapon threads? Better make /k/. /b/ is responsible for all the non-weeb boards (with some exceptions) being made because /b/ is the place where such people congregated and is the largest board.
If what you said is true and everyone just loved keeping this an anime/Japan focused site, /b/ would've never become as large as it did or spawn so many non-Japan related boards. There wouldn't have been that /b/ haven for people who came from SA and other sites to enjoy 4chan or to escape bad moderation as opposed to liking anime. There'd just be some anime boards, and anything not anime related would've just been banned and pushed out. It never was because they never had the reigns to begin with. Early on it was a turbulent mix, but now they're flat out outnumbered and the demographic is clearly not in their favor.
>>365766
>Not really. Maybe in terms of boards, but even then it's cutting it close
I'd rather just take moot's words on this one than yours, sorry. You don't have any statistics on the site's demographics to back up what you're saying. Not to mention you're failing to take into account that people who have an interest in anime or Japanese culture can also have an interest in other things. I think this addresses the rest of your tl;dr as well.
>>365768
He describes three arcs.
>"4chan has gone through different arcs in its lifetime. I think maybe, with a Japanese owner, it'll go back to its roots. When it started, in the first two or three years, it was very much steeped in Japanese culture and anime and video games and people who were hobbyists with a keen interest of Japan.
This is the first arc he mentions. Which is entirely true and I said as much. The only board that wasn't weeb at the time was /b/ and was heavily mixed with that sort of stuff. It was tiny and hardly a major force, but was growing the entire time. This leads to his second arc:
>And that gave way to what we think of as the golden age of the /b/ random board where it became this progenitor, this wellspring of internet culture and memes and whatnot.
This was when /b/ became the biggest board by now, new boards had been made, and there was now a pretty big non-weeb presence mixed into things. And those who disliked it came up with the Wapanese/weeaboo shit. Weebs are pretty much outnumbered here since all the weeb boards besides /a/ are slow as shit while /b/ was getting gets constantly.
>I don't even know what I would call the third or most recent arc. It's settled into being a broad image-centric discussion site. But I wouldn't be surprised if 4chan goes back to its roots and doubles down on just being very nerdy and some of the activist tinge moves on to communities that are better suited to that."
And this is the third arc he describes. Which is when weebs are entirely outnumbered and most of the users flat out don't care or even dislike anime. Basically, present day. And I don't think it'll "go back to its roots" just because the new owner is Japanese. His site, 2ch, was the largest forum in the world and isn't even exclusively focused on Japanese culture and anime. And Hiro is a lot of things, but the guy isn't stupid. He knows weebs are all but dead on 4chan.
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>>365773
I don't know why you're bringing present times into the discussion. That wasn't the point. Do you just like typing a lot for no reason?
>>365773
And since they're all but dead on 4chan, why would he "go back to its roots" and revert things when clearly that's not what the community wants? The only boards he's made so far aren't even close to going back to its roots. And if he wants 4chan to be profitable, or at the very least self sustaining, he's not gonna drive off most of the userbase to appease a few newfags from /a/ who cry at people making fun of them. That'd be completely retarded. He'd want to make 4chan even more weeb than his own site was?
If you want to blame anybody for not making it an anime site, then blame moot. moot's the one who rather than kicking out and stopping that FYAD influx early on just gave them /b/ and /a/ to the weebs. And that original /b/ colony grew and gave people who didn't care about anime a place to talk about other stuff. It gave them a place to grow and in turn create non-weeb boards other people would discover and maybe care about and find independent of any interest in anime. Allowing /b/ to exist was the little colony that would grow and foster that population of people who came here for other reasons, like moderation and what I mentioned before. Me being one of them. I wasn't a weeb, yet I liked 4chan. I was interested in the other non-weeb boards like /tg/ and whatnot. And that was when 4chan died as an anime site. So, basically, it died once /b/ and /a/ split because ever since then it's been a steady growth of people using this site for reasons other than an interest in anime.
>>365775
Providing context and information. Because clearly you weren't around then and I'm responding to moot's quote as well and how dumb it is to think "well, a Japanese guy runs it, clearly he'll make it anime central!". I love moot, but god damn that cracked me up.
>>365778
>And if he wants 4chan to be profitable, or at the very least self sustaining, he's not gonna drive off most of the userbase
Wishful thinking indeed, but it's something that it would be beneficial to the site if it happened. 4chan needs to cut down on it's population. It's too big for it's own good.
And if you were here since the beginning you would agree that the quality of the website dropped massively ever since Chanology happened, wouldn't you? I don't know why I still browse this place.
>>365787
>And if you were here since the beginning you would agree that the quality of the website dropped massively ever since Chanology happened, wouldn't you?
Depends on the board. Certain boards have remained pretty good. And I don't think it was Chanology that did it. Pretty much any major population surge does that to a site. Because then you get a ton of new people jumping in and it starts growing too fast for its own good.
The original meaning of wapanese/weeaboo/weeb wasn't people who were into anime/manga/jap video games, it was people who literally wished they were Japanese, cursed their gaijin heritage, etc. Those people seem to be basically extinct on the internet these days, but they were extremely numerous/loud in the past. Don't you remember that one meme girl that was an unironic weeb and moved to Japan to fulfill her life's dream and ended up marrying some Yakuza and became all miserable? Milk-something? She was kinda e-famous once. People like that. The sort of person that would genuinely try to argue that katanas are better than swords.
/a/ hates "real weebs" more than any other board on the site, either because they're insecure about their hobbies, because these people give the impression that all weebs are like that, or because they used to be "real weebs" when they were younger and feel ashamed about it.
>>365861
/a/ are the most weeb of all boards though. They CONSTANTLY talk about how nipshit is superior to everything else.
>>365178
Why can't autists like you ever get that the intentions of something aren't everything and that the will of the community matters more. If people don't circlejerk about anime/Japan every thread of every board, who the fuck cares?
>>365901
>They CONSTANTLY talk about how nipshit is superior to everything else.
[citation needed]
>>365901
Dude, have you ever even been on /a/? Have you ever seen one of those off-topic threads where people discuss Japan? General perception of the country is that it's a literal dystopia, where all fun in your life ends as you finish schooling, people act as if it's the literal hell on Earth as opposed to an actual first world country.
Only nipshit on /a/ that's actually considered superior to its Western equivalents are Japanese cartoons and comics, and you don't need to be a weeb to realize Western cartoons and comics are absolute garbage for literal shit eating subhumans.
>>366576
>anime
>good
>not absolute shit for lowest common denominator neckbeards
lol ok
>>366576
>tripfagging
Kill yourself my man
>>366583
Even if every single anime in the world was a generic high school battle harem LN adaptation it would still be superior to the garbage West puts out.
>>366588
>there are no weeaboos on 4chan
>>366595
That's not a "Japanese animation is great" post, that's a "Western animation is garbage" post.
>>366595
>he thinks weeb = liking anime
