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Some depressing (depending on your point of view) 4chan statistics:
>there are no Japanese/anime boards in the 5 most popular
>there is only one such board (/a/) in the top ten
>there are only three such boards (/a/, /jp/, /vp/) larger than /soc/, the 22nd largest board
>despite there being 17 Japanese-related boards (/a/, /c/, /w/, /m/, /cgl/, /cm/, /f/, /n/, /jp/, /vp/, /i/, /po/, /h/, /e/, /u/, /d/, /y/) out of 67 total boards (i.e. 25% of 4chan), these boards only make up 7% of 4chan traffic, nearly two thirds of which is just /a/
>the largest four boards (/b/, /v/, /vg/, /pol/) out of the total 67 make up over half of 4chan traffic
>any one of these boards is significantly larger than all 17 Japanese boards combined
>/v/ and /vg/ combined are significantly larger than /b/, which was once considered the face of 4chan
>even /pol/ half as large as /b/
>taking all of the above into account, modern 4chan could more accurately be described as a 'board for video game, political and other discussion" than an anime board
>the smallest 50% of boards make up just over 3% of total traffic
>the smallest 25% of boards make up 0.69% of total traffic
>if the other 75% of boards were this slow, 4chan would have 36 times less traffic
>this shows that despite how 4chan's large number of boards make it seem like it's users' interests are diverse, in reality the site has very little board diversity at all
>this is dangerous because if a better alternative to 4chan for these primary interests are found then 4chan could shrink massively, eg. if a better video game and 'free speech' political discussion were created and these boards shrunk to even just the size of /a/, 4chan would shed a quarter of its size overnight
>the only major boards which are truly safe from this danger are /b/ (it is unlikely a decent replacement will be made, at least as long as 4chan is popular) and /a/ (the userbase is to dedicated to 4chan for them to all leave)
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>/po/ is currently 4chan's slowest board with ~30 posts per day, if it had been this slow for its whole existence it would be nearly 50 years old
>none of the anime image dump boards (/c/, /e/, /d/, /h/, /y/, /u/, /cm/, /w/) are in the 40 fastest boards, with /d/ being the most popular
>if /c/, /e/, /h/ and /w/ were all to be merged, the resultant board would only be the 35th most popular and only slightly larger than /aco/
>there are as many YLYL threads made on /b/ in a day as there are threads in general on /w/ in two weeks
>/trash/ is Hiro's most successful creation, already being the 14th most popular board on 4chan despite being unlisted. This puts it ahead of boards such as /fit/ and /k/
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>>373962
No one cares weeb
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>>373962
Where this graph from?
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>>373966
I made it by seeing how many posts were made on every board according to the archive
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>>373962
>>taking all of the above into account, modern 4chan could more accurately be described as a 'board for video game, political and other discussion" than an anime board

Can be, but shouldn't. We have enough normies in here already.
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>>373967
Thanky U
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>>373969
>>>/a/
Your chink cartoons are not relevant anymore
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>>373969
>We have enough normies in here already
Exactly why the point makes sense
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>>373962
>dat /aco/

Congrats creating another dead board.
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>>373979
But it's the third biggest board in the right-hand column.
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>>373963
>there are as many YLYL threads made on /b/ in a day as there are threads in general on /w/ in two weeks
This one is pretty interesting.
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>>373962
Trump will make anime real anon.
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>>373962
>>taking all of the above into account, modern 4chan could more accurately be described as a 'board for video game, political and other discussion" than an anime board
Except, thats wrong. First, you'd have sift through those 3 boards and found out the amount of posts are actually on-topic. In /v/'s case, it'd probably drop to one of the slowest boards, as its nothing but underage memespoutering shitposters. /pol/ would probably drop to the middle or so and I can't even think of where /vg/ would land up, since its mostly a chatroom

You'd be better off calling 4chan a 'board for shitposting and maybe discussion', but, I refuse to fucking accept that
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It's threads like this why /qa/ is considered to be full of newfags. Fuck off, OP. lrn 2 4chan.
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>>373962
Anime and weebery are dead in the west.

This should not come as a surprise.
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>>373979
porn boards don't require much speed to be alive.

/aco/ has almost half of /gif/'s traffic, but /gif/ is for the most part people commenting, and asking for sauce
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>>373995
> this crybaby rulekuck
Waaaa

On topic/off topic, it doesnt matter, cry harder
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>>373962
But both /v/ and /vg/ have a lot of weeb (on-topic) material on them. Obviously not the majority of either board, but at least a good 20% of each.

Also what >>373995 said. Weebs generally tend to be more mature, educated, sophisticated, and enlightened individuals, so they spend more time making well thought out on-topic posts while most stuff that's posted on board like /int/, /tv/, and /pol/ are pure memery. Look at, for example, /int/. Literally like 80% of that board is boring NEETs blogging and mindlessly chatting in their national/regional generals. How can you consider such posts as equally as important as /a/'s mature discussions over which usagi would they want to fuck the most?
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>>374007
>Weebs generally tend to be more mature, educated, sophisticated, and enlightened individuals, so they spend more time making well thought out on-topic posts while most stuff that's posted on board like /int/, /tv/, and /pol/ are pure memery. Look at, for example, /int/. Literally like 80% of that board is boring NEETs blogging and mindlessly chatting in their national/regional generals. How can you consider such posts as equally as important as /a/'s mature discussions over which usagi would they want to fuck the most?

Up until now I thought you were a serious poster

Quality trolling.
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>>373999
>>374007
Eat a dick weebshiters
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>>374007
>Weebs generally tend to be more mature, educated, sophisticated, and enlightened individuals
HAHAHAHAHAHA this is the most retarded thing I have ever read from this cancerous tripfag and that is saying something
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Please delete /v/, /pol/ and all affiliated boards before it's too late.
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>>374013
Shut up weeaboo
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keep misusing "weeb", fucktards
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>>374022
>w....w....we arent weebs! Stop calling us mean names!
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b-b-but i thought 8gag was the /v/, /b/, and /pol/ chan.
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>>374011
He's right though
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>>374026
8gag is the chan for crippled activist newfags stormfags retards.
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>>374026
8gag is /v/ /pol/ and reddit in bed together

They also aren't very popular, which is why they are still shilling here for users. They really need to get the boot
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>>373995
>found out the amount of posts are actually on-topic. In /v/'s case, it'd probably drop to one of the slowest boards
Nice meme.
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>>373962
>/v/
>not an anime board

Bwahaha.
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More interesting statistics:
>91% of this site's users post from India
>/v/'s most talked about game: Undertale
>The most popular meme on /r9k/ is "Picard facepalm"
>/news/ is on track for a record low in shitposting
>All responses on /adv/ are actually posted by one person
>Longest lasting general on /vg/: Planescape Torment, currently at 167,552 threads

Tune in later for more interesting facts.
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>>374008
>trolling
I hate it when this happens.
C'mon dude, I used four ridiculous adjectives for weebs and ended that post by calling /a/ discussing which usagi they would fuck mature discussion. Even a person who legitimately has Asperger would be able to figure out that it wasn't meant to be taken entirely seriously and was posted in a slightly self-depreciating manner.

And the worst part is that even after I post this, I'll just get some little shit reply to me with ">hurrr i was only pretending to be retarded". You people suck and I hate you. I hope you remember that one incredibly embarrassing thing you did in high school and spend all day cringing thinking about it.
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>>374057
>hurrr i was only pretending to be retarded
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>the mods despise /pol/
>/pol/ is one of the most active boards

Remember, mods. We're here forever. Your "ideal" vision for 4chan will never happen. Never ever.
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>>374061
The first episode of this show was a horrifying experience.
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>>374061
The mods don't despise /pol/, that's why they leave it alone.
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>>373962
This just confirms what everyone except the weebs already knew, that they haven't been relevant in years.

One of the worst things about this site is the self-entitled board superiority complex that /a/ and some other boards display which is based on 15-year-old-moot being a weeb a decade ago.
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>>373962
>despite there being 17 Japanese-related boards (/a/, /c/, /w/, /m/, /cgl/, /cm/, /f/, /n/, /jp/, /vp/, /i/, /po/, /h/, /e/, /u/, /d/, /y/) out of 67 total boards (i.e. 25% of 4chan), these boards only make up 7% of 4chan traffic, nearly two thirds of which is just /a/

Can't we just merge em all in and make /weeb/
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>>374001
Porn boards are just a waste of bandwidth anyways.
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>>374067
Please, anon, there was one mod that liked /pol/ and he may have even been a /pol/ack himself, but he's no longer with us. I'm guessing he got demodded for leaking moot's decision to force 4chan staff to sign a non-disclosure agreement, but that's just speculation.

The other mods hold /pol/ in contempt.
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>>374057
>hurrr i was only pretending to be retarded
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>>373967
>according to the archive
Some boards such as /gif/ don't have 3p archives afaik
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>>373962
>top 5 boards are the worst in quality

That's not surprising. They appeal to the lowest common denominator after all.
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>>374091
>implying you would know what quality was even if your ass was made of it
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>>373962

>muh inequality

fucking commies
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>>374078
The leaks confirmed that the mods are mostly SA-tier SJW types.

>>374070
This. Moot treated the weeb boards with kid gloves, despite the overall lack of interest in weebery over time. Anime just isn't popular anymore, and the weebs can't take it.

Worse, moot's weeb tendencies always took precedence over the betterment of the site overall. For instance, shoving quest threads off of /a/ and onto /tg/ where they took over, or cordoning off western media into single boards (/co/, /tv/) despite having a vast multitude of irrelevant weeb boards.

Moot made the site, but he was a poor admin, and an absolutely terrible leader for the mods.
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>>374096
Did he hurt your feelings anon?
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>>374106
I don't understand what you think my feelings have to do with him not knowing what quality is.
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>>373962
I might be blind, but is /qa/ really slower than the likes of /ic/ and /vr/?

Also I think this just proves that the multiple porn boards are completely pointless. We might as well merge the likes of /e/, /y/ and /h/ as well as /s/, /hc/ and /hm/. /gif/ manages to encompass all these types of porn without problems.
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>>373962
>this is dangerous because if a better alternative to 4chan for these primary interests are found then 4chan could shrink massively, eg. if a better video game and 'free speech' political discussion were created and these boards shrunk to even just the size of /a/, 4chan would shed a quarter of its size overnight
>the only major boards which are truly safe from this danger are /b/ (it is unlikely a decent replacement will be made, at least as long as 4chan is popular) and /a/ (the userbase is to dedicated to 4chan for them to all leave)
Cripplechan already took away most of the GamerGaters (i.e. the faggots that actually care greatly about the free speech bullshit), yet /v/, /vg/ and /pol/ are all still in the top 5. These boards aren't going to ever die as long as 4chan exists.
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>>374155
/v/, /pol/ and /vg/ may not be ded but they are dead. There is no intelligent life left there any more.
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>>374158
>any more
They've always been filled with retards who claim that everyone else is a mindless sheep who can't form their own opinions. They then go on to circlejerk in their own cancerous hiveminds. If you ever thought those boards were genuinely good then you're part of the problem.
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>>374158
>There is no intelligent life left there any more.
>>374165
They've always been filled with retards who claim that everyone else is a mindless sheep who can't form their own opinions. They then go on to circlejerk in their own cancerous hiveminds.

You have both just described every weeb containment board.
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>>374165
I imagined this coming from an /a/ poster and had a hearty laff
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>>374169
He replied to an /a/ poster
>>374167
We don't say these things, we just passively hate them, mostly because they post detrimental shit. And your notion that weeb boards are containment is ridiculous; even though they make up so little of the traffic, you see 'weeb shit' all over the place. How is that containment?
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>>374176
It's as much a containment board as /pol/ is. Only an /a/utist would still be in denial about this.
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>>374169
/a/ has the same problem too, it's arguably an even bigger offender. Pretty much every board that isn't dead suffers from this problem. The only reason I don't go else where is because this place is anonymous.
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>>373962
This actually makes a lot o sense, the majority of discussion on 4chan today is just video games and politics.
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>>374011
Except He's right
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Jesus, I didn't even realize /int/ was that large.
Has it always been that way or has it seen a population surge in recent years? /int/ always seemed to me around the same size as /mu/.
I also thought /r9k/ was much bigger than that.
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>>374204
in what universe is he right? Because he isn't in this one.
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>>374206
It's been that way since /new/ died.
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Anime is still popular you know. Its just butthurt redditors who get triggered by anime images
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>>374211
>Anime is still popular you know.
According to whom? /a/?
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Thing is , moot wanted this place to go back to be an anime centric image board. That's partly why he sold the site to Hiro
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>>374211
Ok, Ken-sama.
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>>374221
>moot wanted this place to go back to be an anime centric image board.
No he didn't. He said "go back to its roots", which means SA more than anime.
>That's partly why he sold the site to Hiro
moot still owns the site.
Hiro bought control, not outright ownership.
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>>374215
Google.
If anything is is more popular than it was a few years ago.
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>>374235
So the population of the internet has tripled in the timespan of the chart but interest in anime has remained at consistent levels.

I'd say this shows a negative trendline, if not general malaise in the industry.
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>>374235

Internet population in 2005 1.02b
Internet population in 2015 3.2b

Maybe absolutely, but not in a relative sense, it's fading out and becoming more niche.
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>contemporary 4chan is just facebook for hipsters
stunning news
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>>374244
>>374245
Not necessarily true.
Example being the google trend graph on news. Are you saying the news is becoming more niche with a negative trend?
I think is better to think the google algorithm takes in to account of population increases.
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>>374231
No moot legit sold this place to Hiro. Molt has nothing to do with 4chsn anymore. And yes he did say he wanted 4chan to go back to being anime and Japan centric once more. Did you even read his final address?
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>>374250
Forgot image.
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>>374251
Wrong. See >>373779
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>>374253
>>374250
You are retarded for thinking the google trends for the word "news" are relevant to anything at all.
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>>374245
holy shit i can't believe is 2005 is 10 years ago and 1995 is 20 years ago
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>>374257
How about "films" then?
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>>374266
Anime was already a specific niche genre of "films" before 4chan existed. It's like you don't understand what a fringe minority anime fans are in society.

And it *is* dying. Not enough new kids have started taking it up and too many oldfags like moot have given it up. Like moot said, people just outgrow it.
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Glorious /pol/ is not going anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDJUTYDiq8
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>>374275
>Anime was already a specific niche genre of "films" before 4chan existed. It's like you don't understand what a fringe minority anime fans are in society.
And? What does that have to do with anything? Doesn't mean that more people can actually come to like it and google trends has even shown that it is getting more interest.

>And it *is* dying.
And your evidence?
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>>374255
But still he no longer wants anything to do with 4chan period. Its technically Hiro's site now and he makes the rules
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>>374275
I still see plenty of weebs though. Still, I think our best course of option now is to start getting rid of boards people no longer use and add ones that people are generally interested in
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It makes sense. Everything around /g/ and below is pretty niche stuff, so of course they'll be smaller then the more mainstream boards. But for the distance to be that much? That's a problem. The boards will either stagnate or we find a way to attract more users to them.
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moot should have jettisoned the non-weeb boards before they became cancer, but now it's too late.
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>>374231
>moot wants 4chan to be like SA

Just fucking kill me.

SA is probably one of the biggest shitholes on the internet. It's full of people making dad jokes and unironically arguing about rape culture and gender and shit.
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>>374303
"Stagnation" is desirable in some cases. Some boards are fine with the userbase they have and are better off without new people flooding to them.
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>>374231
>which means SA more than anime
You're an idiot.
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>>374309
To be fair I was talking about 2003 SA, not modern SA.

>>374311
It's "You, sir are and idiot :)"
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>>374310
In some cases yes, but I was thinking mostly of /x/. That board could really use some fresh blood and new direction. It won't save it, but maybe make it a little less awful.
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>>374275
Fucking this. Anime lost any sense of variation and doubled down on a single genre which doesn't really appeal to anybody who isn't already a part of that niche fandom. Very rarely does anime come west in a big way anymore. Most American manga publishers went out of business or downscaled dramatically.

Weeb culture is mostly dead now, especially amongst young people.

I have a feeling it's going to be like Star Trek in the future: something popular with adults who grew up with it, but completely lost on the majority of culture.
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>>374309
Meaning back when SA was somewhat decent, like around 2003. That's what moot wants. He did also say he wants 4chan to be more anime and Japan oriented once again.

>>374316
>Using emoticons
Please go back to Reddit

>>374306
I think it time to start seriously making more boards that people really do legit want, like a celebrity and film board. People still want a Japanese video game board desperately.
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>>374319
Again though, the fanbase is still passionate and loyal, and I still see young weebs around. And personally I don't care if we go niche, the less shitposting the better.
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>>374310
>stagnation is desirable in some cases

So basically the board equivalent of Generals
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>>374321
2003 SA was full of shit like raids and doxxing though. That was their whole schtick

So either moot has some serious nostalgia goggles or he has no idea how the internet works
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how's ADTRW these days
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>>374323
Why don't we add a :10bux: fee to post? And usernames! Ooh, and the mods can have usernames too so they can do lots of :laffo: stuff like ban people sometimes

Then hiro can take a shitload of ambien and tweet about how his wife left him while the servers are down.

Yeah, that'll be sure to keep those FUCKING NEWFAGS out
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>>374319
>Weeb culture is mostly dead now, especially amongst young people.

So true. Back in the 90s just watching Akira or Vampire Hunter D made you hip and cool. What /a/ is today is the culmination and end result of that fad, but like many fads that last for decades it has expired like bad milk. Without the hook of a Dragonball or Pokeman around today to lure kids into the world of anime like there was in the 90s there is nobody to replenish the fanbase when the older fans give it up. Even kids in the 80s had Transformers and Go-bots. What do kids today have?
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>>374341
Naruto.
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>>374341
Pokemon is still on going you know? Also Dragonball is back.
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anime pictures make bum hurt haha
*poops pants*
oh no mommy anime made me poopy my panties no diaper help me mommy waaaaah waaaaah ANIME FUCKING SHITS BTFO AHAHHA KILL YOURSELF AUTIST
btw did u kno that chinese cartoons make me mad? like reaaaaaaallly angry grrr i hate anime reeeee haha reeee
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>>374341
One Punch Man.
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>>374345
>>374343
You honestly don't think those series are cliche now?
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>>374351
They are, but I was just answering.
>Without the hook of a Dragonball or Pokeman around today to lure kids into the world of anime like there was in the 90s there is nobody to replenish the fanbase when the older fans give it up.
New people to anime wouldn't find it cliche.
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>>374341
Pretty much true. Like you said, Dragonball and the big anime push of the 90s was what made weeb culture so widespread. But anime isn't shown on television anymore in times that draw in young viewers- only things like Toonami.

Pokemon is a good example. It's still around, and it'll be for a good while now, but its very clearly winding down.

Will anime ever die completely? No. But the whole "anime culture" thing is rapidly dying.
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>>374345
>the point
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>your head
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Oh boy, outsiders trying to discuss anime like the experts. Your opinion is shit and means nothing.
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>>374351
gonna need you to actually read the post you quoted there champ
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>>374362
hmmmm yes only somebody fully indoctrinated into moeshit can truly discuss the dwindling appeal of anime to the west
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>"Hurr durr anime culture is dying"

Yeah, nah. See you in ten years. Actually, no I won't because you'll be dead and anime culture will live on.
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>>374362
You know I was going to shitpost ITT pretending to be a rectally ravaged weeb desperately trying to pretend anime was still relevant

But then you showed up and saved me the trouble
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>>374365
Another idiotic lowercase post! Well done, shitlord!
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>>374361
How? Was asked what they have now? and they have Pokemon and Dragonball. You can jump into Pokemon X and Y without watching any of the previous stuff and Dragonball you can basically jump in at the start of Super as well without really watching Z or the original Dragonaball.
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>>374358

Why are anime conventions continuously growing then? Why are services like CrunchyRoll only getting bigger?
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Is anyone else scared of how popular /pol/ is becoming? I'm sure its attracted the worst far-right people from other sites since they're often in the news now and spreading their garbage everywhere on the internet.

inb4 some /pol/fag calls me a libkek, I'm just not an extremist like you
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>>374367
Oh, don't kid yourself. You've already been shitposting in this thread, and quite badly at that.
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I wonder what it's like to be from /a/

What is it like to live in a constant state of irrelevance while being bloated with a sense of unwarranted self importance?

Do they leave their computers at night and cry themselves to sleep, or have they actually deluded themselves into believing they are inn any way important?
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>>374372
Because these /pol/ retards don't actually know anything about anime but like to pretend they do. Pretty much yet another example of /qa/ whining and accomplishing nothing, best to just hide the thread.
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>>374374

There is literally nothing wrong with white nationalism
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>>374379
>everything I don't like is /pol/

cool buzzword friend
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>>374331
moot made 4chan as a place where people could go and talk about anime and shit away from SA. That was his original intention, and that's what he wants 4chan to be again
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>>374377
>inn
>inn
>inn
>inn
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>>374379
The thread has nothing to do with /pol/ or /a/ specifically, it's about 4chan statistics that show what a minority weebs really are.

You can ignore them if you want, but don't pretend like /pol/ made them up.
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>>374381
Another idiotic lowercase post! Well done, shitlord!
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>>374380
But the Nazis and the Klan were meanies.
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>>374397
Anime supremacists are worse than white supremacists,
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>>374383
Well then he should have done a better job running the site, shouldn't he?

Instead he let the users drive the site's culture, and that was far from any kind of imaginary weeb paradise.

Like he said, people just outgrew anime.
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>>374396
>shitloard

cool buzzword sister
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>>373967
Like in total or over a period of time? And which archives?
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>>374377
>What is it like to live in a constant state of irrelevance while being bloated with a sense of unwarranted self importance?
The only difference between other boards is the "while being bloated with a sense of unwarranted self importance" bit. So not sure why people are trying to act so smug they aren't /a/.
Actually, if anything, that brings then closer to the /a/ mindset they hate.
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>>374366
Yeah right, you'll probably kill yourself due to loneliness and wanting to finally unite with your waifu.
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>>374396

>passive-aggressiveness
>obsession with grammar
>arguing semantics instead of the actual point

What are some other weeb traits?
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>>374399
Anime supremacists never killed people.
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>>374411
>passive-aggressiveness
>obsession with grammar
>arguing semantics instead of the actual point

What are some other anti-weeb traits?
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>>374414
This Daiz fellow apparently assassinated a lot of people.
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>>374414
Not yet they haven't.
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>>374414
...that you know of...
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>>374410
Nice samefag.
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>>374411
You're projecting too hard, faggot.
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This entire thread reeks of newfaggotry. It's clear you kids have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Anime is bigger than ever and only grows from year to year.
For starters, stop misusing "weeb" you fucking idiots.


>>374374
The only real problem I see with it is how 4chan is supposed to be more light-hearted "autists arguing with autists over meaningless pop culture bullcrap", and /pol/ is a bit too "heavy" for a site ostensibly geared towards people who like vidya and anime. But then again, ever since the /pol/ocaust /pol/tards seem to be having a lot more fun and taking themselves a lot less seriously than before. That place is a lot less grim (even if more shitposty), which is nice.
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>>374411
Appeals to authority ("but moot was a weeb") and appeals to tradition ("but moot made 4chan for anime!")

Also deflection, as per >>374416
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>>374430
They should stop using weeb period, it's just a blatant shitposting word. Hiro said he's gonna filter it if people don't learn to keep it in their pants.
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>>374436
>Hiro said he's gonna filter it if people don't learn to keep it in their pants.
link?
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>>374430
I fucking love how you weebs constantly try to deflect criticism by trying to redefine words.

Reminds me of a certain political group I know...
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>>374440
It was a PM.
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>>374436
>weebs so salty that they're demanding their trigger word be banned

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>374444
>PM
...private message?
On 4chan?
what?
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>>374444
>Make baseless claim
>asked for proof
>"j...just take my word for it"

Weebs are a fucking joke
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>>374441
You're projecting too hard, faggot.
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>>374449
>>374446
>>374431
I applaud your dedication
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>>374448
it was a joke you knob
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>>374448
It's, uh, not exactly uncommon knowledge.

Edit: Oh wait, it's only available to pass users though. Is that why you don't know?
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>>374436
>Hiro said he's gonna filter it if people don't learn to keep it in their pants
We will go full circle and it will go back to wapanese.
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>>374450

>implying projection exists

Psychology isn't even real science.
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>>373962
How is /f/ japanese related? I know it's listed as such on the homepage but it's far from exclusively anime focused.
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>>374459
I think you know damn well the answer and are just asking a dumb rhetoric question for the sake of argument.
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>>374459
Mostly because of how the rules are set for the board (even if they aren't followed).
>>>/f/rules/1
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>>374456
Reportedly he's going in a different direction and just replacing it with "frog". No idea why.
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>>374459
It was originally supposed to contain content that was Japanese in nature. If you check the rules page for /f/ you can see this was intended from the beginning. It wasn't enforced though, so other stuff eventually took over. /n/ followed a similar fate.
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>>374459
It's a Japanese-style idea, even if the content itself is not Japanese. I think /n/ is also classed as a Japanese board, even though everyone in every country likes trains and bikes.
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OP has forgotten one thing.

The post rates for different boards on 4chan are constantly changing.

Pic related can clearly demonstrate this.

Yet another example :

/co/ was created on April 6 , 2006. By the time of October 10 , 2010 the board had only 20 million posts counted.
After the creation of /mlp/ on February 17 , 2012 it managed to get 25.7 million posts in only 3 years and 10 months which means /mlp/ is actually faster than the average speed of old /co/.

OP is just doompauling about boards like /po/ , he clearly doesn't know that all boards have their regular users that come and go at least every week.
A lot of counted posts on /po/ come from early stages where it was much more popular and even raided sometimes by /b/. ( /po/ was created in the exact same day as /co/ )
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>>374379
>le /pol/ boogeyman
Upvote.
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>>374430
>The only real problem I see with it is how 4chan is supposed to be more light-hearted "autists arguing with autists over meaningless pop culture bullcrap", and /pol/ is a bit too "heavy" for a site ostensibly geared towards people who like vidya and anime. But then again, ever since the /pol/ocaust /pol/tards seem to be having a lot more fun and taking themselves a lot less seriously than before. That place is a lot less grim (even if more shitposty), which is nice.

Have you heard about some shit /pol/ did last month, bringing guns and agitating some protest in America? They also seem to think they're apart of some Trump paramilitary now, no, they still take themselves seriously and its starting to leak into the real world.
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>>373962
/trash/ is actually somewhat up there
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>>373962
Jesus kill /pol/ already. Everyone should have noticed how all the newfags and the cancer culture infects all boards.
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>>374556
Sounds like /a/ damage control

>>374611
Definitely /a/ damage control
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>>374255
You are lying. moot is not the owner.
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>>374635
Moot owns 51% and is the controlling interest. He has simply relinquished control to the minority stakeholder.
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>>373963
trash is only popular because it's the only place you can post pony porn. If /mlp/ were to become a red board, you can be sure there would be a large surge in posts.
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>>374066
how so?
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>>374638
Prove it. Wait, you can't.
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>>374647
okay sure, whatever you say
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>>373962
>the most active porn board is the furfag board

That's just embarrassing.
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>>374659
/b/ is a porn board at this point and you will actually find more porn on /v/ at any given time than /trash/.
/trash/ also has a lot of shit that isn't porn but still isn't welcomed on anywhere else on the site.
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>>374650
That pic is just a joke, based on an old meme/movie quote.

Hiro took out loans to buy this site.

(I accidentally replied to you in the other thread )
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>>374668
Keep digging you'll find it. In the meantime, lurk moar, newfriend
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>>374659
True, although it isn't only porn and contains discussion as well. /s/ is the most popular true porn dump board
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>>374027
>>374204
Could you samefag harder fucking tripfaggot
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At this rate I guess it's conceivable that /v/ could overtake /b/ soon
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>>374631
I hate /a/ as much as the next non-/a/ poster, but OP's stats are pretty wonky.

To begin with it assumes boards are pure, either Japanese or not Japanese, which just isn't true. Look at /b/, one of its most popular and most consistent thread subjects is loli. /v/ and /vg/ are also plagued by weebshit to the point that there are complaints asking for separate eastern and western boards. Pretty disingenuous to use either of those two as not japanese.

"Look, the board doesn't have a japanese word in the title" is probably not a very good argument for weebs being a minority.
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>>374430
Look at this butthurt weeaboo and laugh
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>>374725
I expect that if it got near to that point then the East-West split would likely go ahead just to keep the board manageable
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>>374737
If /v/ reaches a point were a split truly is the only way to make it fixable and manageable, a jap-west split won't be it. That will only make everything 10x worse. You would have to do a video game and video culture split, as the latter is whats causing most problems. You would also have to then make the culture one stuffed filled to the brim with word filters and spam filters that it'll probably die and ban anything that really isn't video games from /v/
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>>374746
most people want the split at this point. The weebs and westakeks have their own cultures.They just dont mesh together
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>>374762
Moefags, shonenfags, deepfags don't mesh together as well, and are constantly at battle with each other. But, you don't see /a/nons begging for a board split to hide from people they don't like.

A board split would only intensify that issue and culture, what it needs to moderation. Both by the users and the mods. If there was more than a incredibly small minority of users actually using the report features, shit would actually get removed. The mods actually pay attention to things that have tons of users reporting it, but are incredibly known for ignoring things that only a few people report. The GG shit is a easy example of that. People in those threads actually used the feature so much they actually pissed the mods off
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>>373962
How can /b/ still be the most popular board? These days /b/ is just the same threads posted daily and reposts.
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>>374814
Because it is where all of the 14 year olds of the internet go to be edgy and laugh at shit and every year we get more 14 year olds to replace the next.
It's a never ending cycle of shit.
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>>374774
The mods don't care. At all. They are incompetent beyond belief. A split IS needed because the two sides can never co-exist now. It just cannot be done anymore
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>>374556
The other thing is that those metrics are compiled only from post activity. This generally is somewhat indicative of how big a board is, although the ratio of people who are lurking 99% of the time vs people who are living spambots differs greatly on different boards. moot himself said the majority of users were lurkers, although that was years back before /pol/ and /int/ became what they are I think there are fewer lurkers on places like /pol/, because the very nature of that board is oriented towards maximum edgy (which naturally is inflammatory in nature aka you feel compelled to reply, usually out of anger or white knighting for some concept/thought process), and /v/ and /int/ have literally like 50% of their threads being obvious shitpost baits.

/a/ on the other hand usually has mods delete shit/bait threads there before they spiral out of hand, practically 24/7. On other boards they seem to just let most of those shit threads be. Why do they leave them alone, besides negligence? If they started deleting for example /pol/ threads for being prejudiced/racist then the userbases there would start to complain, whining about muh free speech, sjw mods etc. /v/ also had a bout of this reaction with GG. On the flip side, /a/ would freak the fuck out if mods -didn't- delete all the obvious bait and shitpost threads all the time. It really is a different attitude hence why their users look down on other boards for condoning blatant shitposting. Shitposting does not make for a quality board or experience; that's why it's fucking called shitposting.

I almost want to say the mods/janitors being dutiful on /a/ has wound up, over the years, selecting for a userbase that prefers things like that and by nature such personalities are more inclined to disapprove of the immature/edgy/taunting fuckery that /v/, /int/ and /pol/ revel in, which also to me are pretty much guaranteed to greatly boost their respective activity levels.
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>>374826
The mods on /v/ will delete video game threads and keep of a threads full of furry porn, get blacked threads and general shitposting threads.
It's isn't all the time this happens, but I have seen it happen a few times on /v/ at least. This should say how good our mods over there are.
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>>374832
/v/ is just in such a bad shape right now. Traffic is only declining thanks to how much the mods have fucked this site up
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>>374822
Can you really fucking blame them? All mods are global and none of them are required to actually browse any specific boards, they browse whatever one they like. With that, everything this anon >>374826 said is the truth. They really aren't incompetent, they just really don't fucking care. Why would you give a fuck about something that gives you no appreciation and when you actually do your job, you only get contempt and hatred? Why would the mods actually enforce the rules on things like /v/ and /pol/ when the only thing they seem to get in return these days is both those users bases causing incredible amounts of drama that waves over to the rest of the site, while calling them evil nazi, sjw or muh free speech. The reason things like /a/ gets so much attention from the mods is because the majority of /a/ actually appreciates them and encourages the removing rule breaking content, instead of having a fit that affects the entire site that its been removed. The only time /a/ bares its fangs against the mods, is when the mods do it first

Everyone seems to forget the mods are anons as well, and just like us, they aren't going to browse a board they absolutely hate. The only content they are really actually required to remove is illegal shit. Why would they moderate a board they fucking hate, unless a large number of people report something from it?
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>>374826
>lurkers vs living spambots
This actually is a good argument for not trusting archive data alone. You don't see lurkers.

I don't like the place, but if you study /mlp/ they have a gauge for about how many people they have there these days. The whole board is maybe 200-300 people by their own estimates, yet it has a post activity of like 10-15k posts per day, or 30-50 posts per user per day, reasonable for turbo autisy tryhards like them.

/v/ has likely several million users, but they are clearly not all posting 24-7 on /v/ like some bronies do on /mlp/. So despite having probably at least 10,000 times as many users as /mlp/, the board is actually only 10x more active than it. That is the kind of difference lurkers vs nonstop posters makes, hence it is folly to even imply post rate is 1:1 to population. Even if I gave /mlp/ the benefit of the doubt and said it's probably at least three thousand plus people trying to factor in lurkers/infrequent posters, /v/ is still like 1000x its size but only 10x the activity.
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>>374826
>/a/ on the other hand usually has mods delete shit/bait threads there before they spiral out of hand, practically 24/7
Clearly you haven't been on /a/ in a while.
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>>375445
Might not be 24/7 any more, but they are still probably more active than most the other large boards.
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For a long time /a/ has basically been made of people who were under the delusion that they were posting in literally the greatest community on earth, and so probably volunteered by the hundreds to spend their NEET days scraping shit off the floor in order to preserve the glory of their community. As the years go by some of these people became janitors and probably eventually moderators.

People in less cult-like boards realize more accurately that the job of a moderator is actually to deal with screaming retards flinging shit at them (and each other) all day and be hated by literally everyone. They're also more likely to complain that the board is totally shit.

While the second group of people is probably more correct overall in the long run it leads to less moderators willing to sit down and do the miserable babysitting work necessary to police a massive board. That's my guess, anyway.
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>>373962
>4chan would shed a quarter of its size overnight
That would not be a bad thing at this point
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>>375902
This. If most of the people posting on those five most trafficked boards moved somewhere overnight nothing of value would be lost. At this point I really wished that 8gag had more success
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>>374245
>it's fading out and becoming more niche
or maybe, there's just been an influx of normies to the internet with the advent of facebook, twitter, and reddit, and anime is just as popular as it's ever been
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>>373962
/trash/ has more posts than /mlp/

Graph proven incorrect from the start.

Unless its those hunger games "Sans here" repeated posts times a million boosting it.
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>>374875
>I don't like the place, but if you study /mlp/ they have a gauge for about how many people they have there these days. The whole board is maybe 200-300 people by their own estimates...

Well I don't want to be rude but...

GET FUCKING FUCKED. (pic related)

Sauce : https://4ch.be/mlp/statistics/population/
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>>376008
One more thing...

4ch.be was created on November 2015 so it doesn't have data regarding the archived boards before that point.

https://desustorage.org on the other hand has some data from the older archive , archive moe.

The pic shows that /mlp/ did have a drop after season 3 and the scruffening but it is still active (the board is even more active than /vp/ )

/v/ is clearly butthurt that desustorage doesn't care about them but is willing to archive boards like /vr/. (take a look : https://desustorage.org/)
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>>376016
Why would /v/ be upset about that? Besides they already have an archive anyway.
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>>376028
/a/ was pretty upset when they found out that archive moe died but they were relived that archive moe would still allow them to download the old files via torrents.
>Besides they already have an archive anyway.
If you are talking about 4ch.be then know that it doesn't store images or any data other than text and the thumbnails.
>Why would /v/ be upset about that?
You know what you are right even /v/ hates itself to the point that they don't get upset if they get treated like shit.

The nigger who said :

>Even if I gave /mlp/ the benefit of the doubt and said it's probably at least three thousand plus people trying to factor in lurkers/infrequent posters, /v/ is still like 1000x its size but only 10x the activity.

In this post >>374875 might actually be right since our horsefucker map : https://i.4cdn.org/qa/1449686161849.png has only 923 marks on it but it might be due to the fact that a lot of people are fucking pussies and a lot of others don't leave their cancerous generals at all.

That's the thing about /mlp/ , regular threads are like the /co/ side of the board while random threads are like the /b/ side.

But if I was given the benefit of the doubt that the archive only stores unique IPs as opposed to actual people than I would say that /v/ has only 20 times the population of /mlp/ (at maximum) while having 10 times the population of my board on a regular day that E3 is not being held nothing more nothing less : https://4ch.be/v/statistics/population/
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>>376032
>If you are talking about 4ch.be then know that it doesn't store images or any data other than text and the thumbnails.
They have another one that has full sized images though you can't ghost post.
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>>376036
Link plox.
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>>376038
Nvm , found it :

https://fireden.net/
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>>374639
Not really. It's the roleplaying threads that make it active. They usually go through them in an hour. If you took that away trash would be a lot more lower
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>>376072
/trash/ is even in decline despite mods moving a lot of threads into it.
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>>376080
I think they have not install correct flash player. I put link on front page them.
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>>376087
>That English.
Hiro is that you?
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>>374866
But people on /v/ legit do want change. We just want better mods to do their damn jobs for once in their lives
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>>376090
With correct flash player. Then can download video.
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>>376080
I'm pretty sure every board goes into decline soon after its creation. When it's brand new everyone wants to try out the new board, then the novelty wears off and people decide whether they really want to stick around.
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Good to hear that my beloved /g/ has very tiny amount of mainstream attention. This should keep the cancerous posts to minimum.
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>>373962
What would you guys say is the smallest relevant board and the largest obscure board? I'd say [s4s] and /o/ respectively.
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>>374026
8gag is where you go for /v/ because our /v/ is shit

/pol/ is filled with /pol/'s bottom of the barrel and /b/ gets into a civil war every week.

>>374034
>/v/ and reddit
Thats weird, since our /v/ actively has Halo, Fallout, and CoD threads
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this isn't accurate.
the reason the weeaboo boards aren't popular is because all the weebs spread their disgusting anime into every single other board.
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>>376327
>being this assblasted
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>>373963
/trash/ is high in PPM but low in TPH. It's really a mixed bag when you only go by one stat.
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>>376032
>e to the fact that a lot of people are fucking pussies and a lot of others don't leave their cancerous generals at all.
I personally don't give a shit about those kinds of things. I assume there's a fair amount of people that are of a similar mindset. You really have no idea what percentage of the board actually replied.

>But if I was given the benefit of the doubt that the archive only stores unique IPs
The archive doesn't have access to IPs. At all. It runs off the same JSON 4chan API everyone else has access to.
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>>376016
You're an idiot. Can you not see that the "population" tab is literally exactly the activity, relabeled? Every board has the same thing with that stat too; it does not actually measure population and seems to have been some unfinished test mode that was last worked on several archive generations ago that was never finished.

It doesn't work/wasn't finished probably because it simply cannot be accurately generated, because the public does not have access to unique IP counts (which sees lurkers etc) and archives are generated only from public data.

In other words it's an "I wish it could do this" ambition from a dev years back that's for some reason still left in place.
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>>376372
Actually if you look at the charts you see "population" is clearly not a head count, but rather tells you the ratios (hence populations) of anons vs tripfags vs namefags.
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>>373962
Do you have the actual statistics source OP? I want to check those numbers.

Also the methodology, if they're only post counts on archive then something is wrong.

Also, 4chan must have the board access statistics in order to optimize the site for at least a year, busy days (/sp/ during WC finals, /pol/ in election days, /tv/ and /co/ during sweeps, /mlp/ during premier and finales, etc.).

Actually the busy day statistic could be more useful than al year raw, considering all archives.
>>374549
In my humble opinion, they should stop "this is japanese, is not japanese" attitude. looking at you /a/.
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>>374101
>the leak
Yes I too love me some good fanfiction every once in a while. It was missing le sexy time though to be top notch.
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>>376387
>In my humble opinion, they should stop "this is japanese, is not japanese" attitude. looking at you /a/.
This so much. Stop splitting topic where it gets together just fine.
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>>376093
Better mods won't fucking fix anything if you retard /v/ermin aren't willing to change or fix anything yourself. Everything will just return to 0 and you'll all be back to complaining about how the board is nothing but shitposting again
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>>376080
Well yes. That tends to happen. My point is that it isn't porn giving the board activity. If you notice all the porn threads are days old and there's even some ehete is just one cock sucker dumping shitty porn. It's the roleplaying crowd and the generals there that give it activity. Ths ponyfags got bored and the charm wore off. Most of the furfags decided to stick to /b/. The RP threads are about the only thing that moves there, everything else is slow as fuck
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>>374061
This

>>376107
I use chrome
>>376327
They're not relevant anymore
>>376361
>The archive doesn't have access to IPs. At all. It runs off the same JSON 4chan API everyone else has access to.
But that really doesn't matter, resources are allocated by post not by IP.
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>>376028
There are no /v/ or /vg/ archives that are putting up old archive.moe threads like desustorage is with its boards
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>>374008
>tripfag
You're just an idiot.

>>374101
>shoving quest threads off of /a/ and onto /tg/
Blame /a/, not the mods or moot, and their recognition that long running quests were cancerous. No one cared when they were not frequent. /tg/ getting overrun with them had nothing to do with /a/.
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>>373962
What a suprise faggot sjws who aren't from here are the minority. Fuck off faggots.
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>>374826
>everything I don't like is edgy
Don't come to /b/, ever. Nigger.
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