Please, remove flags
>>357646
It's relevant to the boards it exists on. Prove me wrong.
>>357667
Flags are not relevant to either /pol/ or /sp/. The onus is on you to prove they are relevant on either board since no thinking person can see how they would be.
>muh banter
>muh shitposting
>muh played out memes
>muh thread derailment
None of those are good reasons.
>>357675
/sp/ is incredibly regional. I think we should sideline that argument because you probably know very little about sports. Let's just be honest here and move on to /pol/.
Flags exist on /pol/ because their regulars take it upon themselves to make everything about race and heritage. Where someone lives plays a major role in that, thus flags. Also nobody cares about quality controlling /pol/. It's literally the /b/ of social discourse. Shitposting is a given and moot knew what he was doing by adding flags and thus adding another layer to the discourse.
>>357681
I know plenty about sports. For example, I know that the sports I follow and enjoy discussing are enough indication of what country I'm from. Flags are needless and only serve to encourage shitposting.
>>357681
>take it upon themselves to make everything about race and heritage
Which means flags should be removed so that kind of thing is discouraged. It doesn't add another layer of discourse, it just distracts and further divides a community that is very divisive in the first place. I'd rather have real (uncensored - hence politically incorrect) discussion with less false division and distraction.
>>357696
>I'd rather have real (uncensored - hence politically incorrect) discussion with less false division and distraction
Well it's not happening, with or without flags. You're committed to this idea that /pol/ is a place for upstanding discussion and hardly anyone is going to take you seriously.
>>357698
You know that the current sticky on /pol/ was generated by user-consensus, right? Oh wait, you weren't around then. You have only been on /pol/ since flags turned it into shitposting central and mods gave up trying to enforce the sticky.
>>357729
>You know that the current sticky on /pol/ was generated by user-consensus, right?
>>357696
You do realize people on /pol/ are actually very dumb and many are underaged? Removing flags will only change the face of shitposting and stupidity on that board. The users need to change if you want good discourse, but since the users are some of the worst on the site, it won't happen.
>>357737
Well, removing flags and enforcing the sticky would go a long way to encouraging a higher-class of user. The reality is, shitposters always win without mod intervention. There has always been an element of /pol/ that generated interesting discussion.
The sticky on /pol/ was created by a collaboration of these users and the sympathetic mod after the porn and "redpill me on x" threads got too much. For a while that did reduce shitposting (because mods enforced the sticky) but after moot added the flags and IDs it brought a new class of shitposting. We need mods to intervene again by removing the flags.
This is a good thread. Let's remove the flags from /pol/. Then let's have a frank and reasonable discussion about also removing the IDs.
>10 posts
>5 (five) IPs
why is India so pathetic
>>357795
>only one of those IPs belongs to an anti-flagger (you)
Why do you hate /pol/ so?
>>357646
Bumping past the /d/ spam
Let me give it to you plain and simple.
The mods know your IP. They can look back at all the posts you have ever made, and they'll see every single thread and post you've made on this board. The mods will laugh at how truly pathetic you are. The mods will laugh at how you think you can act like 100 different users who want flags removed and get away with it. The mods will laugh at how you think your dedicated autistic crusade will change the scope of an entire board. The mods will see all of this, and they will never, ever remove the flags.
You could have let it go, and gone to another forum to talk politics, but you can't because you think that a privately owned website should cater to what one shitposter says.
You can deny all of what I said. You can deny the samefagging, but there's so much proof of it. You can deny any mistake you've made, but 4ch.be archives all of it. You can deny all of it, but you'll be forced to face the music when you finally give up. One whole month already, and guess how much has been done? Nothing. Next month, nothing. And the month after that, nothing. And the month after that, nothing. And the month after that, nothing. And so on.
/pol/'s userbase is no longer "people who want to discuss politics". That was never even the case. The userbase right now is /pol/'s userbase. Not /int/. Not Reddit. /pol/. If /pol/ wants to talk shit about Israelis or Britbongs, you won't be able to do shit about it. If /pol/ goes from actual discussion to OY VEY THE GOYIM KNOW, tough shit. /pol/ is not your friendly political discussion playground. You're browsing fucking 4chan of all places. A website full of faggots, neo-Nazis, pedos, furries, cancerlords and memespouters does not expect "discussion" on a NSFW board called "Politically Incorrect", it expects racist neo-Nazi shitposters to talk about how the Jews did 9/11 and how Turks never killed Armenians and how feminists are fat fucks who should choke to death on a cis man's cock.
>>358266
You absolutely roasted him. Thank you for that. I'm going to save this for later use.
>>358266
>there's so much proof of it
That can't be, because there are so many people posting these threads. In fact, I bet you have zero proof. You just have retarded assumptions because you're desperate to believe that your flag-based shitposting hasn't completely ruined /pol/. Also, you forgot to mention your epic memes about India in that post. Your butthurt is making you slip up quite embarrassingly.
>>358266
>/pol/'s userbase is no longer "people who want to discuss politics"
Correct, right now it is just teenage faggots who got banned from /int/ for being too reddit pilled and edgy. But hopefully when the mods remove flags that will change.
>>358266
There are some intelligent, good people on 4chan. /pol/ is just devoid of them.
>>357696
How's the weather in Australia m8?
>>358681
I'm not Australian. Or Indian. Or Greek. Or Swedish. I just want to have a board where current events are discussed without politically correct faggotry or bullshit flagposting.
>>357646
>remove flags
This
>>358306
What exactly do you think removing flags would change? It was like this before both flags and IDs were added.
>>359518
If the sticky is enforced in tandem with removing flags, hopefully the shitposters could be chased off. The idea of having a place where you can discuss ideas and current events free from "political correctness" is very appealing,.
/pol/ should be free from any enforced ideologue and without stupid gimmicks that encourage silliness. Banning retarded crusades like gaymergate and sjw twitter wars was a good move, as was banning "redpill me on x" and the kek porn - all of which chased away the reddit pilled posters and sent them to 8gag. But the adding of flags (and to a lesser extent IDs) also chased away the interesting posters because it removed the FEEL of anonymity and brought divisiveness and meme spamming.
I just want to be able to discuss current events freely. Not in a super-serious, dry way. But like the Zimmerman trial days before /pol/ was divided by flags or flooded with r/redpill morons. Back when people made non-serious posts it was to be funny not just repeating boring memes over and over or, even worse, actually getting all emotional and serious over "nationalism" like some middle aged loser on stormfront.
There was a moment when /pol/ felt like old /b/ - the lack of people being offended made everyone free enough to be creative and insightful in ways you don't get any where else. now it's all crying about "muh heritage" and alternating between pathetic emotional ideologue or lame "banter" like you find on twitter.
I really miss the days of Zimmerman and Dorner ;-; It was genuine creativity and humor, mixed with insights and free-thinking.
>>359522
You are quite right, especially about the feel of the board and that the sticky needs to be enforced. But although I don't actually have any argument for keeping the flags I don't see it as something crucial, it's much much more important that shitty thread starts simply get removed.
I don't even care about gamergate and such, it mostly seemed to be a problem because of the drama surrounding the bans and was reasonably contained into their many threads. I find it a much bigger problem that the board is filled with one-liner thread starts and bad baits.
>Daily reminder that turks have the lowest iq of europeans
>I improved this white woman by making her have asian features, what do you think?
>Who else /dualcitizen/ here?
>It's really the best way to go for Jews, have all bases covered.
>Why do people with extreme political views tend to be losers?
>why won't you play minecraft with refugees /pol/?
>WHEN THE FOREIGN HORDES GO MARCHING INTO TOWN...
>>359532
>I don't even care about gamergate and such
It's not specifically about gamergate, but people going on crusades and trying to make an impact on the outside internet. That has been proven over and over again to do nothing but cause cancer.
/pol/ generates some very insightful and poignant humor, because it is a board for expressing yourself free from worry about causing offense. Once it becomes a board for taking yourself seriously and organizing into a "resistance" the subversive insights are lost and only cognitive dissonance and dullness remain.
>the board is filled with one-liner thread starts and bad baits
See pic. That is a current thread, and the first four posts illustrate the type of people attracted by flags. It is apparent to me that before the stupid bait culture can be dealt with by mods, the flag gimmick needs to be removed.
>>359557
>See pic
Guess it's time to remove the flags completely
"banter" "bantz" and all variations therein need to be filtered immediately. The very concept is the most normalfag of cancerous shit imaginable.
>27 posts
>10 (ten) IPs
>the IP count will still be under 20 when it reaches 100 posts
>>357646
please poo in loo
>>359612
>>27 posts
>>10 (ten) IPs
Isn't that normal? It's people responding to each other, having a discussion. And it's quite an interesting thread, why not join in the discussion? You don't have to, of course, but it does seem better than posting just to quote things that were never said.
>>359522
So that's it. Removing the flags will do nothing. Enforcing the sticky will.
RIPIP your entire month.
>>358266
INDIA ON POOICIDE WATCH
>>359620
>Removing the flags will do nothing
See the pic here >>359557
>le bants is epic win!!1
>le country memes
How are you supposed to enforce the sticky when their is a stupid anti-anonymity gimmick that is only useful for shitposting, I mean "le banter"? Mods gave up enforcing the sticky because 1) nobody with anything interesting to say wants to deal with fucking flags and 2) shitposting retards swarm to wherever flags are.
I mean look at this thread and the archives complaining about flags. There are several autists who spam every one with terrible unfunny posts over and over.
Don't you understand the mindset of a shitposter? They are inadequate, lonely losers in real life, desperate to make some kind of impact in the world. Hence why they love flags: they assume that at least a few people will get annoyed if they insult their country. So they spam, spam, spam their stupid memes. They live to be annoying, and flags encourage that.
What flags DON'T do is have any redeeming aspects whatsoever on a board like /pol/. Flags make you FEEL less anonymous, which makes you self-censor in a subtle way.
>inb4 retards are too stupid to understand that
What kind of redditard would actually enjoy having flags on their board? Only the most retarded I'm sure.
>>361247
Redditards love flags because it makes them feel less anonymous.
>>359955
>which makes you self-censor in a subtle way.
good point honestly
>>358266
What a fucking lie, how about you actually go on /pol/ you absolute retard.
>>361435
Any form of identification on a board like /pol/ is bad for free expression because it makes people feel exposed.
>38 posts
>13 (thirteen) IPs
>12 connoisseurs of bantz
>1 desperate samefag named Rajesh
>0 sides on my body
>>362864
>Flags are awesome
Found the retard
>>357667
You suck five cocks per day. Prove me wrong
>>358266
Open your eyes grandpa, this isn't 2013. /pol/ IS reddit. /pol/ IS /int/. It isn't even a meme. They openly post the proof of that. And you took their dicks up your ass like a typical European of real world.
A little elitism could've helped you.
>>362928
>/pol/ IS reddit. /pol/ IS /int/
Removing flags would go a long way in changing that situation.
