Why does /pol/ hate anything that isn't STEM?
Is it just a meme? Or are really all of you studying CompSci and the likes?
I study history + English which is considered shit tier by you guys. I tried computer science before this and it was literally full of autists and I didn't enjoy it at all. Now I love what I do and I'll be earning decent cash, so what is the problem?
Also, do you guys really think there is no need for people that teach kids about history or the English language?
>>55303933
>history
you mean bullshit?
the history your studying never happened.
>>55304088
Prime example. You don't even know what you are talking about.
Also:
>your
kek
>>55303933
Don't listen to these idiots. Do what you love. A lot of people on /pol/ never even went to college and can't examine the content taught in basic non STEM introductory classes from an objective viewpoint. And if they did, they were most likely too stupid to graduate and dropped out to "hurr pick muh trade!!!" Most people here believe in racial science, refuse to believe the fact that the environment and socioeconomic class a person is born into can shape them and some even believe the Earth is flat or evolution isn't real for fucks sake.
I'm 27 and I study psychology (have a masters in clinical psych) and I am working on a PhD now. I make good money, especially at my age, have no debt, and love what I do.
The ironic thing is that most of my friend's who majored in STEM (engineering, biology and comp sci) are all unemployed.
tl;dr don't listen to autists. Do what you love (unless it's women's studies, fuck you).
finance and accounting should be at least mid tier
its certainly higher than economy which is useless
>>55303933
>psychology : low tier
We just developed the standard tests measuring intellectual quotient and proving that niggers are inferiors.
Basically we've created the thing you're fapping on
>>55303933
I think Political science and archaeology belongs in Low tier.
>>55303933
Heres the real chart
>>55305037
Unfortunately only richfags like me can do god tier.
No debt 420 all year round
>>55305119
I'm poor as fuck and can do it.
Here's the real chart
>>55303933
So basically, anything that is remotely artistic is shit tier according to /pol/.
>tfw in low and shit-tier
fuck you, i'll do what i want
>Stem
Good luck competing with 1 billion Indians. It makes sense that the majority /pol/ pushes this autistic, subject oy vey goy, slave away for hours a day being a c.uck for your boss in an office.
>tfw I'm studying Agriculture
Wasn't even acknowledged. Literally worse than shit tier
>>55303933
>falling for the STEM meme
Toppest of keks.
Corrected.
>>55305248
10/10
>>55305387
They're retarded cultureless Americans and American-influenced (generally shitskins). Instead of trying to take back the arts from the modern influx of women and Marxism they've just abandoned them because they can't comprehend the value of them.
They're surrendering, they're cowards. I'll spare you the obvious joke about the Frech.
>>55304469
Accounting in the US has been reduced to glorified data entry.
Only the toppest of candidates can get their CPA license, which takes forever to acquire, and then trying to build your clients is worthless with these peasant tax places like Liberty and HR Block.
AP and AR departments are almost never hiring, and if they do, it is a 10 hour a week job at a touch higher than minimum wage, and generally a 1 - 3 month temp contract.
>source
Masters in Accounting
In the job market for 3 years.
The weirdest part?
He includes Epistemology, which is the study of knowledge itself and includes the study of flawed assumptions in all fields [an academic epidemic], in the lowest tier.
Science itself is based on the Philosophy of Science, and anyone with a Masters or Doctorate in the Sciences will tell you that there is a serious lack of Epistemological Correctness in academia, and it's effecting every aspect of people's lives.
>>55305601
I genuinely believe a significant portion of the people pushing this retarded STEM meme are those Indians.
>>55305866
Right, they're spineless cowards.
>>55303933
It depends on the country, but really whatever you choose, you can't be sure if youy will find a job, you have to be skilled, have a name, connections....
>>55303933
I'm studying computer science first year
> tfw only did roughly 10% of degree T_T
Yes the people suck tremendously, even worse is that I study in hipster center of the country: UvA. Although USA universities are more keked with their BML and affirmative action bullshittery and degrees based on attendance.
>>55305601
wat?
India doesn't even have proper universities lols. STEM degrees overall are the most tacit of all degrees therefore they're better since they provide a more well rounded skill set besides writing paper after paper on boring things nobody cars about.
>>55305037
Eh I did this last year with econometrics, no way I was going to finish that shit (doing what my parents suggested I should do).
>>55304469
studying finance is a joke, as someone who has a major in it, waste of fucking time.
I now study econometrics and will study masters of #####data###science hashtag next year
Already getting job offers, how does it feel that a degenerate like me will make 6 figures working in a meme industry
>>55305129
Do it while you can
Achmed will soon eat up all the social security
>>55306105
> master in data science
Prepare for academic trivialities for the sake of academic trivialities.
Economics is one of those degrees in which you write useless paper after useless paper and some math subjects which are surprisingly difficult and totally unnecesarry later on in life.
>>55305964
They consider themselves conservative but they're only obsessed with money, they have no higher values. It's sad really.
>>55306055
>Nobody cares about
But that isn't true.
Every department has a huge range of academics, researchers and people who are interested in the certain field. STEM isn't the only field in the world in which people are interested in..
Stop being an autist and realize that other degrees are just as important.
>>55306055
You think people care about STEM? Next time you're with your girlfriend or friend's tell them about your STEM work. Not just the general outline but go into detail, and tell me the look on their face.
>>55303933
I study history and english too, OP. In which city do you study?
>>55306233
Kiel
>>55305248
Actually this is spot on
>>55306186
No I don't. If you look at the curriculum in a field like economics all you're doing is writing papers on subjects that is more or less academia with the purpose of it being for the sake of academia.
>>55306182
>>55305928
>>55305866
Why is modern art so shit
>Tfw top tier
sick
>you fell for the mathematics meme
>>55306226
Pretty fucking bored.
But go on about economics sociology or even cultural sciences and they will have the same reaction, likely you use language that they can't even understand as well if you go into detail.
I dare you to talk about a random person about economics and you'll be surprised if they even understand the absolute basics.
>>55306290
But all you are doing is creating program's and going over algorithms while looking at a screen. You could say the same about every subject.
You STEM students seem to think you are driving the human race towards a future, when in reality you will graduate and mine data for the rest of your days.
>>55303933
>Board full of people who love 'white culture'
>hates study of the language of that culture -English-
>Board full of autists 100% confirmed.
>>55303933
>Economics
>Low tier
Fucked in the head m8
>>55303933
The problem is that what you will do is USELESS.
>>55306226
>>55306339
Besides that I don't like talking about my degree, because a lot of it isn't really the most exciting stuff, especially if I take a look at which stuff I still need to do. I can't imagine anyone wanting to talk willingly without getting something in return about some of the more detailed aspects that come forth in degrees.
Maybe later I will change my opinion but I really doubt it, I hate university more or less but it's pretty much something mandatory you have to do if you want to land a decent job due to degree inflation.
>>55305696
Actually agriculture should be god tier. It's primary sector, it's base for everything. Can be shit if you work with fertillizers, then it's literally shit.
>>55306351
No I don't really want to do a job in computer science but I just stick with it for now.
What's the difference between Information Technology and Computer Science? In Poland it seems to be one and the same thing.
I really don't understand why history is in the shit tier category (ok I have a masters in history, true). But apart from that little bias, I really don't get it. I took extra political science, economy and agricultural courses and judging by that experience my colleagues and professors at the history department were the most broadly educated, rational and most were conservative. Perhaps this chart is not relevant for European universities.
>>55306439
CS should be a branch of applied mathematics.
Because at the end, /pol/ in general want a shit job and feel superior to the other "whites" companions, only because 'muh salary'. At the end, pol is jew.
Im studying History too.
>>55306400
Yeah well spotted, economics shouldn't even be considered a degree.
>muh incentives
>tfw Bachelor of Business Management
>tfw $67,000 starting after only 4 years of school
>tfw 2 years later, $71,000
>tfw 1500 sq ft apartment 2 blocks from the beach
>tfw work only 6 hour days, 4 days a week
Nigga I got so much free time and more money than I know what to do with. Tell me why non-STEM degrees are so bad again? Anyone who tells themselves they need $100,000 starting is lying unless they're trying to start a business empire on their own or something.
I may not be contributing anything special to the world, but I'm having a lot of fun while I'm here. This whole STEM meme has got to end.
>>55303933
>philosophy
>shit tier
I came here to laugh at you
>>55305119
Even if i was rich its still not enough for me
(World domination is what i love)
>>55306466
Same here lad, first year doing Napoleonic era, you?
>>55306466
>Liberal Arts student
Opinion discarded.
>>55305248
Philosophers and writers can't be replaced by robots, right?
>>55306490
go away urban
>>55305696
Agriculture is a true top tier. We will always need agriculture. Agricultural advancement precedes all other advances.
>>55303933
So basically:
>God and Top Tier if it originated in Greece in 5th century BC.
>Mid Tier if it originated in Europe in the 20th century.
>Low and Shit Tier if it originated in America in the 20th century.
I don't know why, but I agree...
>>55306523
>Australian flag
Opinion disregarded
since you are all so smart this chart will make sense and you might redistribute and spread it, understanding why it is significant
I am the author, it is public domain forever
>>55304088
DAMN
>>55306179
>Economics is one of those degrees in which you write useless paper after useless paper and some math subjects which are surprisingly difficult and totally unnecesarry later on in life.
Pretty fair analysis of economics,
I feel that economics (did a triple economics, econometrics, finance major) has been really helpful in my life in helping me change the way i think about decision making etc etc.
My masters is really job and practicalities focused. My honours year tho, jesus fucking Christ that was a waste for someone who didn't want to be an academic... doing a thesis was coo i guess tho
>>55306575
Aside from philosophy. Which should be top tier.
>>55303933
>Mfw Physics
Amerigans BTFO
>>55306575
what about philosophy then?
>>55306594
>Primary source for the graph is the World Bank
hmmmm
>>55306633
>>55306617
It could be because it was ruined by Americans.
Here it is still top tier.
>>55306536
Correct
>>55306552
Right, we need agriculture just as much as the true top-tier. But /pol/ is too "muh redpilled" to acknowledge that.
Quick question /pol/
I'm studying Industrial Design, i.e. products,
where exactly does that fall?
>>55305037
>I love underwater basket weaving
>This makes it god tier
Nah m8. Enjoy your crippling debt and unemployment.
>>55306594
>saudi arabia
>only 0.35
>>55306671
A whole other category at the bottom
AUSSIE SHITPOSTER TIER.
t b h
>>55306514
Third year bro (of four), but we dont do it chronological. We study some aspects as we advance, like institutions in the ancient ages/Medieval/Modern right now. Also I started this year with America, since prehistory (kek).
>>55306664
I just pointed out that your own categorization is at odds with OPs chart in case of philosophy. But I agree, philosophy should be god tier.
>>55306633
Without political correctness its God tier
With censor its wrost than women studie
>>55306735
Yeah alight buddy, because we don't need design, no, making things usable would be silly.
Because while you think that you prove that an english, history or psychology degree is worthwhile, the majority of you plebs come out with a useless degree, never pay student debts and then protest that it is all the establishments fault that you can't get a job. The real reason is most of those degrees are useless and oversaturated.
The average psychology grad I know works in a clothes shop stacking shelves, a low paid office job or is unenplyed and protests everything for fun and claiming socialism and niggers are the best thing ever.
That chart isn't to rip on people though, it's to tell you what is likely to be useful enough to get a paid job. Despite all your objective study, you missed that. STEM master race.
>>55303933
Because /pol/ is overflowing with Trump-tier retards that are so sure that they are going to be 1337 that they are willing to bet the present on it.
>>55306670
You are /pol/, he is /pol/, both of you are acknowledging it.
>>55306671
At least you'll have a job unlike most people on this board
>>55306460
>>55303933
What's your job with at least its est. gross income?
Or are you guys just a NEETs?
>>55306671
Product design is fine.
>>55306810
Well it is engineering, so it is physics, so it is God tier.
>>55306835
What's got you so rump rustled friendo?
>Why does /pol/ hate anything that isn't STEM?
Because there are majors in school that are completely worthless for receiving a job after graduation. They only exist for the purposes of greater education aka to make the school $$$. Pretty much all of liberal arts is this way, as well as some of the majors in other departments.
You hear all the time about students that went into debt picking these bullshit majors because they are easy and then being unable to pay the debt after graduation.
What makes STEM good is that it is the most demanded group of majors by companies. If you look at job requirements, many many good entry level positions will ask for a technical degree (science, technology, engineering, mathematics). Also the salary goes up above 6 figures, so you can pay off student debt if you accumulated it.
Now, if you have money and time to blow on school and want to do what you love that isn't boring as shit, then sure, go be a starving social worker or musician. If you want to be hired, then STEM and medicine are good choices. Business is ok, but unlike stem there are many more people getting BBAs then positions for them, and many of the degrees are crap. Law and architecture are crap right now.
>>55303933
What do you guys think about economics? How does it compare vs a business degree?
>>55304412
Actually this raises a Decent question about /pol/. What are /pol/'s qualifications? I see a lot of claims here that go against common belief and some that go against definite science but do the people making these claims have any qualification to back them up?
>>55306858
So, income is the sole criterion of quality and worthiness of an academic field. Fuck and here I was, thinking I was among fellow conservatives.
>>55306671
Apple. Jobs at Apple!
>>55306536
Well writers as in authors won't be replaced, but news writers aka journalist could easy be replaced
>>55306914
>What are /pol/'s qualifications?
Just about everything is represented. Personally I have a degree in biology, though I'm not currently using it.
>>55306888
Yes we realize that STEM is great for employment purposes, but picking a field based just on money is literally kike tier
>>55304412
I got a job right out of college with computer sci what are you talking about
>>55306976
Why would you not want a job that pays well?
>>55306811
>student debts
What is that?
>>55306887
I'm not rump rustled. It may seem that way, but it's just the way I express myself.
>>55306671
You're studying a subject that a mechanical engineer does in their degree and would be hired before you for.
Further to my point about shit degrees forever in debt, they basically take tax payer money to learn shit and add nothing and never pay it back. They then go protest for free university education. At your expense of course.
Shit degree students are thieves and no better than chronically on the dole scum, who want to live on your money. No wonder they are all lefties.
Yes, yes that's right goy!
Take your STEM and work in an office for 9 - 12 hours a day slaving away in front of a screen while your girlfriend/wife is left at home. Or better yet, you have none of the two and stuck in an endless cycle of numbers and key strokes.
That's it goy, discredit those who do not do STEM, your fellow countrymen who are also taking a degree to better themselves, OY VEY they're parasites
>>55303933
The original idea was the major's market value, amount of value produced as a result of working, intellect required to be at least somewhat good, employ-ability, work environment, and starting salary.
Things like conserving culture were not taken into consideration.
>>55304644
The half life of psychology is 5 years. Literally psychology is the most popular degree. Usually people end up unemployed. It's only useful if you're going to grad school which is super competitive, more than med school. You need to be the best of the best and write many studies and get good with your professors.
>>55307004
...because getting a job you enjoy makes sure you don't hate your job.
>>55304412
Computer Science master race. Literally everyone I graduated has a job some even have +100k. Plus it's fun getting to create and explore in the world of computational languages and Mathematics.
>>55307025
Here students can take out loans at low interest rates from the gov. You only pay them back once you start earning over a certain amount. Most shit tier grads won't ever pay them back.
That means a net loss to the government purse. Shit tier degrees are also the most common ones. Most students here are a giant waste of government money.
>>55307055
>it's just the way I express myself.
By being a passive aggressive faggot all the time?
>>55307004
Choosing a certain profession based on how much money they make is thinking in very shallow terms. What if you aren't interested in that field after all? Also generally speaking, people in STEM fields are quite ignorant of the outside world and only knowledgeable of their specific field
>>55307101
I am at my last year of Computer Sci university.
It's probably the coolest it can get, and it pays pretty well, but it's not God tier.
>>55307068
>humanities, history and philosophy in different categories
Whoever made this is retarded
>>55307115
Lol, I'm not even trying to sound agressive. You're only feeling that way because you're so insecure.
>>55305037
What if I love astrophysics ? It's stem so should I not do what I love ?
>>55307129
>Choosing a certain profession based on how much money they make is thinking in very shallow terms.
It is definitely a criteria someone would want to consider.
>What if you aren't interested in that field after all?
Don't pick it. However, no matter what you pick, work will suck. That is just the nature of things. It is not supposed to be fun, or enjoyable, and if it is for a lot of people then you are not going to get paid much for it.
>Also generally speaking, people in STEM fields are quite ignorant of the outside world and only knowledgeable of their specific field
Same with every other degree. If you believe getting a philosophy degree will give you a better understanding of the world than say, a logical STEM degree then you are wrong. That is just the universitys bs line to get students who would normally drop out to take the easy $$$ making courses (for the university).
Is an Earth Sciences degree for a Geology related career worth it?
>>55307304
Sure.
>>55307224
>At least you'll have a job unlike most people on this board
>Right, we need agriculture just as much as the true top-tier. But /pol/ is too "muh redpilled" to acknowledge that.
These two statements are you telling us that you hate us but you're too much of a pussy to actually confront us about it. Instead your just making snide remarks.
That is called being a passive aggressive faggot, faggot.
Music isn't shit-tier if you're not an anti-social autist. The degree itself is worthless but if you get into a circle of musicians you easily get enough gigs to live on. I probably make more than you faggots with my "shit-tier" degree.
>>55305696
> Trinidad/Tobago
> agriculture
thats pretty great, anon. Hopefully you'll work to help your country instead of immigrating to work with corn in iowa
>>55307164
It's kind of what you make of it honestly. I greatly appreciate how mathematics is involved on a daily basis. I got a minor in Mathematics and it seems to help in creating physics engines in my spare time.
>>55307304
A lot of oil and gas companies hire geology majors. I don't know what the job market is or if it is worth it or not, just that I know people who were hired by great companies.
I study dentistry/stomatology in europe specifically maxiofacial surgery what do you guys think of that?
Most of /pol/ are poortrash, so they really need to buy into the STEM meme and there is nothing bad with this.
>>55304412
This so much.
NEETS who can't comprehend simple chemistry come on and call everything they don't like degenerate whilst leeching off the system they claim to hate so much.
Go with what you love. Fuck people who tell you what you should or shouldn't do.
Medicine undergrad speaking.
>>55307286
m8, i know engineers and some don't even know basic world history or current events. For a person like me, i just cant stand being that ignorant of the things around me. Although, in general i am disillusioned with society and all this obsession with materialism. Kind of wish i could live in a pre industrial society and just plow a field and fuck my waifu and go to war
>>55307383
What are you saying? All I'm doing is answering to some anons. It has nothing to do with "confronting" you. I'm simply not trying to speak with you.
>>55305764
this to be honest family
>>55306914
I see this alot, like climate change deniers. I'm a physical chemistry major and seeing non scientists trying to explain science drives me up the fucking wall
>>55307523
>What are you saying?
I have been rather direct mate, unlike you. You obviously have a problem with us. I ask again - what has got you so butthurt?
>>55307486
I am jelous of their math abilities but some of them that i met cant even write..and are weird as hell
having said that i agree with everything except go to war, there is nothing poetic or romantic about war you dummie.
>>55307486
>m8, i know engineers and some don't even know basic world history or current events.
This is a well known fact.
The more intelligent person is, generally, the lack of common sense is more prevalent.
That's why a lot of very, like super, intelligent people are raging autists. They are way too intelligent for normal social interaction.
>>55306292
Because lifelike can be archived with a photo, and so the bizarre and psychedelic take precedence over lifelike painting and art
> tfw studying to become a pilot
> computers will never truly take my job
> dont work 9 to 5
> get to travel
the only problem is that its going to be tough to raise a family when I spend roughly the same amount of time away from home as a trucker
>>55307564
>there is nothing poetic or romantic about war you dummie.
As a soldier who has gone to afghanistan i disagree. There is a certain bond formed in combat that you can't replicate in any other experience and a certain adrenaline that is out of this world
>>55307609
you can make more money managing a mcdonalds
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I study dentistry/stomatology in europe specifically maxiofacial surgery what do you guys think of that?
>>55307564
Most of you guys don't have to worry most STEM majors are pretty anti social and awkward. However then you have some amazing bastards that can speak, explain, and are generally well rounded. Basically the STEM Chad and these people will make you hate your life. Most STEM Chad's go on to become doctors since they have the ability to do so.
>>55307780
So basically, what you are saying is that there are negative stereotypes associated with STEM personalities, as there are with every other profession, and if you have a STEM degree and don't have the negative traits you are a god because you have a STEM degree
>>55307921
Basically seems very rhetorical now that I re read it.
>>55303933
>I'll be earning decent cash
Schoolteacher?
Because other than that all a non STEM degree will get you is a pointless busywork job.
>>55306958
The bots that write clickb8 are getting more advanced. They are at the point where you feed a story structure in and you get a novel out (with some errors/clunkyness).
Only a matter of time.
>>55303933
I do translation
>shit tier?
>>55307560
While I'm absolutely not butthurt, I do have a problem with the so-called "redpilled" anons who consider fields such as agriculture useless, when, in fact, they are equally important to the economy to top-tier fields such as engineering.
I also think that, to an extent, people should do whatever the fuck they want, as they'll probably still be more successful in their lives than the anons who can't do anything else than obnoxiously shitting on career choices, while all they do is sit in front of a computer screen all day.
>>55308018
Dunno about Germany but historians in Lithuania work from politicians/ministry workers and diplomats to musicians.
>>55305387
Modern artistic pursuits are poisoned by the ideas being taught and artists that spurn these ideas are treated like lepers.
https://vimeo.com/55784152
>>55308090
Anything that gets you a job at the end of it is fine. Even something like philosophy, though for that you will need to be the next Aristotle to actually be successful. Most that do that kind of subject are burnout wasters looking to get drunk and fuck about for a few years. They come out of it unemployed/in some dead end job and in huge debt.
>>55308123
I don't think anyone here considers agriculture useless. My degree was related to it (though more the laboratory side of it than actually going out and raising crops and livestock).
I will say though, that while agriculture itself is worthwhile, the farmboys I was with who did study actual agriculture were a load of fucktards for the most part. Thought they knew it all already and couldn't give a fuck about the course.
>>55306914
MEng mechanical engineering. I'm that guy that gets mad as fuck when people say wind power is useful for anything.
>>55304088
Butthurt revisionist detected.
>>55305248
Marx approves.
>>55308203
What you kids don't realize is that the majority of people work in fields unrelated to their degrees. Most companies just need smart and capable people, because their business is one you can't study for. And most businesses know that even if people have related degrees they can still be retarded.
>>55308476
I understand this, but if a company (any company, degree related or not) is looking for capable people and has two CVs in front of them, one from a hard and intensive subject like physics and the other from something like music, then it's not hard to anticipate which they will choose to hire.
IF you are a left brained and where in the top 10% percent of your school in Math you do STEM in university. If you are right brained and artistically inclined , have talent you do visual arts, If you are good at writing and abstract thinking top 10% in your school for English and Hiistory you go for Liberal Arts. IF you're average you should consider the debts and return on investment tho.
>>55308304
My comments are based on the OP's chart. Agriculture didn't even make it.
Then again, I'm also concerned by artistic fields being so low rated. We need art. See this. >>55305866
Art has always been an important part of European culture and has definitely played a major role in the French revolution. I can't stand seeing artistic fields being disregarded as "low-tier" by ignorant anons. Sure, modern art is shit but constantly complaning about it won't do much about the whole ordeal. I think that we need more talented artists to enroll in artistic fields and change the tide. What do you think?
>>55308649
That would honestly depend on the job tho. A physics major applying for a job that requires the use of research methods, statistics and social skills would not be the best option as opposed to someone who has a political science.
>>55304088
>le tinfoil hat man
le fuck off edgelord, there's much more to history than "the trials and tribulations of the jewish race", despite what pol seems to think
>>55304412
this, within reason. most of the autists who do compsci will end up being nothing more than a dime-a-dozen codemonkey and will never get more than a slightly above average wage. the tiny minority who aren't lying who pipe up in these threads are just that - a minority. most people who go to college aren't smart enough and don't have the motivation to do well in a subject they aren't interested in. i'm lucky in that i have both of those things and graduated with a 1st in ChemE despite hating the course, but most people won't be able to do it. if you go into a course for the employment prospects instead of doing something you genuinely enjoy, it probably won't end well. you'll have no social life and it's unlikely you'll graduate with a good degree standard.
>>55304088
This guy's right. With all the political agenda, personal views and incomplete information that went into recording history it's safe to say that at least half of what you think happened is just your imagination of it.
But it makes for a fun story sometimes.
I dunno why Astronomy is god tier. I can distinguish the waning gibbous and waxing crescent phases and understand Newtonian laws of motion and Gravity and can measure shit in AU. Big fucking use that is IRL.
Buisness studies is worse than economics and is the same as English and Philospohy at this point. The most over-saturated degree in the world which is taken by noticably average people. It doesn't even teach you how to do buisness. It teaches you how to be a manager wageslave and you don't need a degree for that.
>>55308779
>Agriculture didn't make it
To be fair it's not a university subject most think about, so it's likely an oversight rather than saying it's worthless.
>We need artists etc
We do, but nowhere near as many as our education system is currently churning out. This is the issue with "follow your dreams". It's wooly thinking nonsense that has the real world smash into it like a freight train. Too many finding out the hard way that their half-arsed choice of subject was a waste of their and everyone else's time.
There are too many people going to university in general, but it is particularly acute in the "shit teir" subjects. Philosophy and music aren't shit in and of themselves, but are a shit subject to study at university because our society simply doesn't have the space in it to fit that many artists and philosophers and have them get paid for it.
>>55309149
>our society simply doesn't have the space in it to fit that many artists and philosophers and have them get paid for it
Yep, sadly. On that note, I have to go. Cya.
>>55309149
>>55309307
you two bitches should get a room
>>55305764
>Mixing up kinesiology with 'applied kinesiology'
Your idiocy is showing, anon.
>YFW STEM, while not saturated like autists here say, is even more competitive than the "normal" job market and they will jew you just as hard if not harder
>>55308018
Yes school teacher. The pay is great and so is the job (if you enjoy it, otherwise living hell I suppose)
>>55308358
I'm a mechanical engineer and I work in renewable energy. Wind power is not useless
>>55307544
Clearly /pol/ is full of the 3% of climate scientists who don't hold the consensus view on climate change
>>55304088
That bullshit binds your country together. Or it would, if it wouldn't be infected with leftist agenda of white guilt over slavery and suffering of every other minority.
>>55308129
Yeah i heard this is true as well.
Apparently, if you have natural artistic talent you will have found out how to do art the hard way at a young age and have developed an approach that is your own style.
If you dont have artistic style, then you can take the easy route and go to school and learn an overdone style.
People with extreme artistic talent are discouraged from going to art school for fear that it would alter their style to something more generic.
>>55304412
this guy knows whats up
>>55306055
>STEM degrees overall are the most tacit of all degrees therefore they're better since they provide a more well rounded skill set besides writing paper after paper on boring things nobody cars about
i guess you're right, seeing as how the average man would rather just mouth off about the retarded narrative his parents/HS teacher taught him rather than read papers by academics
>>55306486
In America this may be the case.In Poland going for the STEM means a high living standard(like yours) while shit like history means teaching in school for fuck all.
>>55311795
>for fuck all
Not in Germoney friend :)
>>55304185
> Denial
Brainwashed leftist cUcK faggot spotted.
>>55312254
>denial
No. He obviously doesn't know what you do when you say you study history. He implies we sit there to get lectured about muh 6 million and western guilt, which is entirely false.
Also this
>>55309049
>>55312121
>In Poland
Anyway,teaching in our schools isn't that bad.You can live for it,but that won't be the kind of salary that you could get in engineering or IT.
>>55309548
It's not really that competitive, if you don't have autism you're pretty much guaranteed a job.
>>55312503
Please do some research on the holocaust, the numbers given to us in connection to it, the NWO (pretty important for further background information on what's going on right now).
We may not be directly lied to, but we are misinformed and they don't even tell us some things.
Also about our past...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qpe5Ko6prI&list=PLCTreoVu5wbOI_qxUazNU6I4fZKgsRCxF&index=2
Watch this documentation and please again tell me that we're not being taught bullshit.
>>55303933
>cinematography, filmmaking, and theatre are nowhere to be seen
This is why the Jews control the Media
>>55312695
Read again. You're arguing a strawman.
To be honest, teachers should range from top tier to god tier. Only because they are usually the most influential people in your life, next to family and celebrities/ intellectuals.
The only thing that makes it drop to shit tier are really bad teachers/professors that have a shit teaching style, never really made you want to learn, or were just horrible in general.
Debate me on this, /pol/
>He fell for the 'He fell for the STEM meme' meme
>>55303933
>Business
>Economics
>Low
What?
>>55313542
The best teachers are usually those who worked in the field to begin with, and then moved into a teaching career. Those who go straight into teaching may or may not suck.
>>55313542
As a future teacher I agree.
Requirements for teaching are way too low. Every idiot can become a teacher here.
>>55313610
>autism
It's like calling Donald Trump a shit-tier educated person that is gonna make America great again.
Well autists, you can't have 'em both. You may dislike business studies but you bow down to the God-tier manager, Donald Trump. Just because you lack the social skills needed does not automatically makes business studies and the like shit-tier
>>55305886
>someone jealous that they arent even in big4. Lololololol
>>55305601
I've got friends in IT who say that there's been a significant reversal of outsourcing for actual development because Indian developers are generally fucking useless and their culture is so different from our own that they're really difficult to work with. Even if an indian programmer costs 1/3 of one based in the UK, he's about 1/5th as good.
>>55305119
richfag chiming in, PolSci currently. It's awesome
