What were the reasons behind the Chechen wars? Were they justified?
No one knows.
Any ruskies out there care to enlighten me?
>>55218551
CIA did the same shit they are doing to Syria and Libya, well they did that shit before in Chechnia too. Russians had to go in there and stomp it out. Hope they can deliver the same pain in Syria and save Syria now as well.
>Foment and pay off a home-grown "protestors/insurgency"
>Bring in al-Ciada mercenary jihad Joes from wherever they grow them.
>Try to blow up a country/region (Chechnia, Libya, Syria) Iran and Russia are next on the chopping bloc if Assad falls.
>>55218825
Fucking hell that pisses me off
Everything I've read about it or anybody I've talked to has just said "Russia invaded because fuck Russia theyre spawn of Satan". I guess they were spewing the same propoganda then as they are now
>the USSR collapses, and it becomes russia
>the US think it's an easy target, so they decide to send terrorists to chechnya expecting that they would "liberate" it later, with their army
but surprise, russia kicked terrorist scum out of chechnya
>>55218825
The masked man?
Fuckin idiots here, chechnya has been muslim since about 700AD, has been at war with russia (who were very devout orthodoxes) ever since they met them in the 1600s.
The modern conflict is a nationalist separatism, and a jihad because islam says you have to resist occupation.
You can ask Mr. Putin, but you might need two translators to get through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryqrqeeTJek
>>55219189
if those scumbags try to do something against russia, they'll get their asses kicked again
In all honesty, why do Slavs, Croats, Serbs, and so on, all hate each other so much? They all look the same and they're all poor as shit.
>>55219891
they hate each other because they are different religions even though they are ethnically THE SAME GOD DAMN PEOPLE
>>55219189
Why hasn't Russia genocided those fucks
>>55219189
Tolstoy, being a peace-loving hippie, wrote about it in his novella Kavkaski Plennik. The First Chechen War was basically a continuation of a conflict that had been on hold since the bolsheviks achieved power and crushed all internal opposition.
>>55221114
>chechnya
i dont know why they didnt impose christianity on those people
>>55221114
because kadyrov is not a putin's bitch
>>55220315
Thats what its disguised as. Anyone who says its religious is ignorant. In all reality its economic and political difficulties. When you unite several nations and one embezzles the money and makes itself superior, war is inevitable. Also western power hates any moderatley successful commie countries so yugo was bound to crumble anyway
>>55219891
> all hate each other so much?
Since we are european and not some filthy bunch of outcast that blandup in nomandsland, we have oua own history.
>>55221488
hahaha yeah he is
>>55220315
they are not ethinically the same people, Russians are slavs, chechens are circassians, both caucasian but about as genetically familliar as russians and azerbaijanis
Chenchnia was part pf the Russian Empire. But recently CIA has been funding terrorists there so they had an uprising of extremism.
Source: ethnic Ukrainian (same thing as Russian)
inb4 ukrop internet defense force
Anything that results in dead mudslimes is justified.
>>55222619
why would CIA fund mudslimes in chenchnia? what's the benefit to the US?
>>55222726
oil, $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and more power
>>55222770
i fail to see the connection to moslems in chenchnia and the things u mentioned
>>55221114
>Chechnya has one of the youngest populations in the generally aging Russian Federation; in the early 1990s, it was among the few regions experiencing natural population growth. Since 2002, Chechnya has experienced a classic post-conflict baby-boom.[16] Chechen demographers in 2008 termed highly implausible the reported overall population growth as infant mortality in Chechnya was said to be 60 percent higher than the Russian average in 2007 and to have risen by 3.9 percent compared with 2006.[16] Many experts have expressed doubts about the increase from 1.1 million in the 1990 to an estimated nearly 1.3 million in 2010 following two devastating wars that displaced hundreds of thousands people and virtually eliminated the large ethnic Russian minority in the republic.[17] According to Russian demographer Dmitry Bogoyavlensky, the 2002 census results were clearly manipulated in the North Caucasus: an estimated 800,000 to 1 million non-existent people were added to the actual population of the region.[17] Another Russian demographer, Anatoly Vishnevsky, pointed out that according to the 2002 census, some age groups, like those born in 1950, appeared to be larger in 2002 than in 1989.[17]
>muh 1 quadrillion
>>55221685
youre just as ignorant as people who say it's religious
>>55222934
"send terrorists to chechnya expecting that they would "liberate" it later, with their army"
uhm. russia has nukes. you can't touch them, unlike your failed country.
>>55222619
>Chenchnia was part pf the Russian Empire
They was but they never interated same as Tatars.
And chechnia were never peaceful, they were revolting atleast one\two times every century.
Its only are matter of time when they revolt again.
>>55218551
All wars a shit basically, but the Chechen war was a particularly nasty shitty war. This is a great video of the Chechen war. The radio chatter is translated in the comments on youtube.
https://youtu.be/kNR7oOdIKh8
>Soviet Union collapses
>Chechnya declares independence
>Russia says no u
There you go I just saved you a college education.
>>55218551
>Chechens attack Dagestan
>Russia BTFOs them
>>55223088
why dont you just bulldoze them/blast them off the planet? you can't possibly be treated any worse than you are now.
>>55223053
yes, that's the reason why i said that your government thought that russia russia was weak
>>55223122
Did I just see a body get tossed about 30' into the air?
>>55222882
Also, daily reminder that ISIS's main source of funding is oil revenue, and somebody's buying that oil. Jews use the same tactics time and again because they work.
Any war against muslims is justified.
>>55221114
Because Kadyrov keeps the shit jihadists in the woods, or in western europe as the few chechen shits in here under german and british flags,
>>55223348
>>55218551
Because it's where the natural gas is, and Russia's energy industry is the core of their economy and state power.
Russia will never allow Chechen independence under any circumstances for this reason.
All other reasons people are given that don't take this into account as the primary consideration are pure sophistry.
>>55223348
ISIS black market oil is peanuts compared to OPEC shit -- also didn't it get shut down already?
>>55221114
But they did.
>>55223348
What do you think this is, 2014?
Oil smuggling hasn't been their main source of income for a long time.
>>55223520
dammit
>>55223398
can't you get their shit through drainage?
>>55223218
Nigger, life itsnt \pol\ board.
>>55223691
tbqh chechnya is the only kebab place that i'd visit
>>55218551
>Taking advice from arthropods
ISHYGDDT
>>55223691
are you even russian? didn't your forefathers genocide the fuck out of your population, ukrain, and poland/east europe?
i don't get why you're being pussies about chechnia.
>>55223881
>MUH 20000000000000000000000000000 GORILLIONS
>muh katyn massacre
>MUH OPRESHUN!11
>>55223926
if it were up to me, i'd be bombing the fuck out of your cartel hot spots. spending 50k to blow up some some goat shepard in afganistan is a waste of money -- using it to wipe out your scum isn't.
>>55222726
>what benefit could the US possibly get from destabilizing their arch enemy?
You literally did the same in Afganistan, dumbass.
>>55223881
>are you even russian? didn't your forefathers genocide the fuck out of your population, ukrain, and poland/east europe?
>Holodomor
Thats never happand.
Its not a fucking 18 century okay?You just cant kill that many people any more with out any repercussion.
Right now we abuse another tactic.
Rising life conditions and in the same time we letting some jihadint blow some thing in checnya.
So it takes time to grow mentallity in chechens that share point of.- If Russian goverment dissapear, we would have dramaticly lower life conditions and other stuff.
>>55218551
Caspian Basin. Thought to be the second largest oil reserve in the world after Saudi Arabia.
>>55218551
if you are referring to the 1990s and the dissolution of the ussr the reason chechnya wasnt given independence is because they have 2 oil pipelines running through their country.
>>55224364
your country is one of the main sources of my entertainment -- the road dashcam accidents, the drunken fistfights, and murders.
you must be a pussy russian. i drink 1.75 L of vodka every 3 days, I'm more probably more russian than you. faggot.
