Why is multiculturalism a bad thing? Give me facts and arguments why multiculturalism is a bad thing.
>>71659250
Just look at Sweden.
>>71659250
Why is it a good thing?
There are so many problems with it, you're going to have to come up with a pretty hefty plus.
I don't have a beef with multiculturalism as a whole. However, the specific aspect of multiculturalism which states that all religions should be treated equally and that religions should be defined solely by members of said religion is inherently dangerous. This aspect of multiculturalism allows for a violent world domination cult to define itself through deception, deception hard-coded into the religion itself, and allows for said religion to proliferate freely, exempt from criticism. Yes, I'm talking about Islam. Proponents of this aspect of multiculturalism are, by rule, completely ignorant as to the actual contents of the Koran and the Sunnah of Muhammad.
>>71659250
Formation of ghettos in inner city areas
Increased crime in those areas
Rise of fundamentalism in minority groups
>>71659881
I'll add that it's a logical fallacy to treat religion the same as race or sexual orientation. People don't choose race or sexual orientation. People do choose their religion. It's utterly batshit insane to contend that I don't have a right to condemn people for their choices.
I have a right to condemn people for the choice of murder, but I don't have a right to condemn people for the choice of following a religion which explicitly instructs its followers to murder people who don't follow said religion? Balderdash.
>>71659250
Nothing against non-whites, but the white genome is one of the weakest. racemixing effectively destroys the ethnic heritage of europeans.
>>71659250
Our immigrants since '89 cost us 23 billion dollars a year. They use our systems and evade tax at all costs.
Parasites.
>>71659250
multiculturalism requires jewish propaganda, its unnatural, and more natural for people to be comfortable with only one or two similar races or cultures nearby, not absurdly different and varied and constantly offended mixtures. the burden of proof is on the manmade scheme, not on natures way.
>>71659250
Imagine the old times. When families had a trade and it was usually passed from generation to generation.
Now imagine that you came from a family of bakers and you all got really good at it. After years of work and development you guys raise a bakery empire and earn a lot of money and wealth. Now, you guys take over the company's management and enjoy all the profits of your fathers' and grandfathers' work. Since you all are a family, despite petty domestic disputes, you get along pretty well. All your goals are oriented on making the company grow so you can give it to your children so they can have their lives solved at birth the same way you did.
Now, imagine that one of your brothers is retarded. He was born with everything and he doesn't really appreciate it. He doesn't work or contribute but to make it worse he invites some strangers he met while doing coke off your parents' money. Those strangers couldn't care less about your company and some trash it out, some take money and others mind their own business using the facilities for their own plans.
Now, your family is divided because of your retarded brother and the company is losing money for no reason.
>>71659250
Everywhere you look there's cultural tension.
Multiculturalism and diversity being a net good is the exception rather than the rule.
I dont know, I just remember back in 7th grade when I was still a good little goyim I had to write an essay about 1920's new york. I wrote about how New York was a melting pot of cultures and that was a good thing, because you could get foods and opinions from people all over the world.
Today I dont really care about multi-culturalism but I think its stupid that people can think socialism can work in a non homogeneous society
>>71659250
Culture's main mean is to unite the people under one dame veil they all share. It helps the society to bloom since the better the culture, the better the idealism of people is, and therefore an urge to perfect it even further.
Multiculturalism results in distrust, since the differences are many, which just creates unnecessary hostility. When we have many cultures mixed it looks sort of like a depony, which certainly doesn't reflect good on a person's idealism. There is just so much more to add, multiculturalism just can't work!
I don't know if this means that human beings have an instinct to avoid racemixing, but I went to a high school with two main ethnic groups: whites and Latinos. The whites generally hung out with other whites and the Latinos generally hung out with other Latinos.
Was it your experience that people tended to hang out with their own ethnic groups in high school, /pol/? It does seem to me that people tend to voluntarily segregate themselves by race.
>>71660991
That's a really good point!
Multiculti as a norm will eventually produce a homogeneous state with no distinct culture and no sense of belonging. Humans need a sense of belonging and thus the next best choice is to naturally divide into racial subgroups. This leads to increased civil violence. The male brain is genetically programmed to induce feelings of anger when confronted with foreign males. This is a biological fact, you can't fix it with "anti-hate" or "anti-racism" campaigns.
Every multiculture country in the past ended up being turn apart.
Unparalleled seventy years long peace in Europe came only after homogeneous countries where each nation governs itself were established.
People want to be ruled by their own.
>>71661107
Yeah well, on my former school mudslimes hung out with other mudslimes, on basis.
>>71659250
because whites are already a fucking minority you stupid cuck. add low birthrates to that and you get the idea
>>71661138
I like how the bitch wear handwraps, but can't even fight lmao.
>>71659250
the major problem non autistic non 4chan users have is that in the name of "equality" the police look the other way for things like illegal immigration, rape and murder. this is not just in the us but in Europe to.
and you are suppose to take it quietly because your ancestors were better at war then non whites
>>71659250
You're a fucking nigger, that's my argument.
MUH FOOD
>>71661308
Yeah, but when i say that to people they're all like "Whaaat OP?". It's like they're programmed to commit suicide.
>>71661497
I couldn't really use that for anything, but thanks anyways.
Because whites are he only ones stupid enough to let it happen
>>71661138
Also, do you have a link or something about that, i'd like to read it?
Its imposition is undemocratic.
>>71661256
Koran 3:28 has as much, if not more, to do with that than base human instinct.
>YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
>>71661633
Except in Belgium ofcourse..
>>71661545
>>71659250
It's literally only targeted against white countries.
Cultures can be seen as ideological and moral systems. In this day and age conflict arises from differences in ideology, see WW2 and Cold War and US Domestic politics. Multiple cultures/moral systems will lead to increased conflict
>>71659250
Multiculturalism is another Leftist word for segregation. It creates internal strife within countries by creating groups and setting them against each other for "their" "interests".
Countries need integration into a single culture.
>>71659250
destruction of the native culture and ethnicity
different cultures, different beliefs, different countries
and also I'm Portuguese so I know what happens when fundamentalist people go to a different country and force the domination of their culture and religion
oh and rape the native women of course :^)
>>71662153
>>71659250
It creates permanent racial fault lines in society which become the space in which insoluble power struggle among ethnic lines have the potential to take place. It destroys the sense of homogeneity and harmony of a specific community and destroys the genetic lineage of a specific people.
In Canada, immigrant perceives themselves as being different from the host population and as having a different set of interests. Namely, most of them insist that the white population should constantly diminish in proportion to the immigrant population. They do not say so in those terms but they explicitly support policies which will lead to that situation.
Also, as other have mentioned, no demonstration that it is a good thing has been given. Furthermore, if the host population of a certain country has no cause to "mind" multiculturalism, by which we really seem to mean multi-ethnicitism, then by exactly the same rational there is no ground over which to object to the idea of a homogeneous society, since the argument that's being used in the first place to justify multiculturalism is that ethnicity is of secondary importance.
If that is so, then there's no point in making a society multi ethnic.
let me give you some examples why it is bad
a muslim family in india was dragged out of their house and killed by a mob of hindus because someone spread a rumor that they were eating beef... and cows are sacred to hindus so they dispensed holy judgement
the christian arch bishop of my country was forced to remove his cross while visiting a refugee camp because the multiculturalist pc bullies would bombard him and the entire church with racism charges for offending the muslims
when incompatible cultures are mixed together without rules (like european and middle eastern) the result will always be conflict (not necessarily violent) that WILL end with one of the 2 cultures eventually destroyed (the one who's followers are not "racist" enough to keep it on top).
>>71659250
Why dont you give me reasons FOR it?
A lot of people on /pol/ have trouble understanding multiculturalism it seems when in fact it says right there in the word that it's "multiple" and "culture", so multiple cultures. This doesn't have anything to do with a persons skin color but everything to do with their culture, their beliefs, their love for their country maybe even what they eat and how they do it.
A country with multiple cultures is a country that is not unified on anything. It's easier to manipulate the populations of such a country (see USA, France, UK, Canada). To me this is seen as a bad thing.
As an example, Portugal is a multi-ethnic country due to our colonial past but with a monocultural society. It's likely that over 95% of the country is portuguese, eats typical portuguese food, sees or practices catholicism as the founding religion, acknowledges the same history and historical figures that made the country what it is today, speak a portuguese dialect, listen to portuguese music etc. Here you can be white and poor, black and rich, at the end of the day only money and social standing talks. A black football player (Eusebio) is likely the most revered here and that isn't that strange. As long as you have the portuguese mindset, then you are portuguese. There are no competing cultures of jews vs muslims vs blacks vs asians vs gays vs whatever.
Why would I want my country to be just like every other country (a shade of the same brown)? Having hamburger fast food stands, irish pubs, mosques, tuk-tuks, eating sushi. All of those things are not portuguese, why would I want them? All the other countries already have them.
Because it's a big fatass lie by filthy jews
just look at Sweden
>>71663017
Thx Shlomo Shekelberg
>different people
>going along well together in the same area
Also the fact that it's all built up on fucking lies and lies and lies and that they have to fucking lie and lie and lie to keep the multicultural dream alive.
>>71662913
Good point actually. A culture is not necessarily connected to a race/ethnicity
>>71659250
Natural diversity is not a bad thing. But what happens now in the west is no natural its not people trying to build lives in the host country. They are being brought here they are give incentive to not integrate and they are not educated and spread out. Instead they are encouraged to form enclaves and this keeps then from abandoning some shit tier cultural things and thus further increase their discrepancy with the host.
>>71662287
>implying traditional european culture wasn't conservative as fuck
literally all those women look the same you horrendous faggot. LOL.
>>71659250
- Integration of Muslims isn't possible to western society, They want conquer and convert the others.
- Niggers are violent and mentally sick, see South Africa or Brasil as example. DNA exchange with Nigger lowers IQ of whites, this is literally withdrawing Evolution
- East Asians are better Material for cultural enrichment. No violent, not stupid and not lazy , they have a culture which is worth to integrate. But too much of them could be dangerous.
I don't mind it. When I was at school, there'd be the odd non-white kid, and they'd fit in with everyone else, be fairly productive for kids, no problems, it was good. At the risk of sounding overly liberal, I like the typical story of the guy who was born in X foreign shithole and worked his ass off to give his family a better life elsewhere. But the current model is different. You don't get the hardworking father who's part of the community, you get the separate minority community.
>>71659250
In theory it isn't. In practice it's only emphasized in predominantly white countries and preached to white people
>>71663878
Here's my questions though :
(1) Why do we have any obligation to give any person ever an opportunity to live in our country? I would argue no country has such obligation.
(2) If the immigration policy is such that, if it is maintained, the host ethnicity of a certain country is headed for minority status, do they not have ground for concern?
(3) Related to (2). Is it legitimate for an ethnic group to want to remain the majority in their country of origin?
(4) If ethnicity is a superficial characteristic, why does it matter that the society is diverse at that level? If it is NOT a superficial characteristic, why should we expect anything good from ethnic diversity?
For fucks sake, new isn't always better. There is pride and developed traditions, out of isolation human communities around the world developed unique pockets, why force these into some bland mixing pot.
Hell, with that recent "Germans proud of not being proud" ad on a culture that had men like Bach and Fredrick the Great. The developments of society and culture should not be abandoned now for the dull, intellectually lazy self wankery of multiculturalism.
Breaking down only the cultures of the west (you don't see other nations doing this shit), really because of some desire to be a special snowflake creates a society not based in reason, that doesn't progress. Instead as can be seen it is ending the age of enlightenment and intellectual freedom (as can be seen from further and further censoring in the name of sensitivity) in the name of tolerance. It stagnates society at every level, reducing it to base vanity and allowing the evil from less advanced, crueler parts of the world to take root and flourish.
>>71661138
But my main nigga is a nigger. Am i a psycho?
It defeats the whole point of having a country e.g an ethnic group of people with shared values, religion, morals, attitude etc.. this is how you have harmony in a society
Multiculturalism is only possible with cultures that compatibility with each from day 1 because integrating large groups of people is nigh impossible and immoral in a sense
Other than than you create chaos for no reason you get communication issues, under performance by minorities, higher crime rates, and no solidarity in case of an external threat
The root word of diversity is divide.
