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>THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9xoUIP9g54

>THE NIGEL FARAGE SHOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2sgOA1jwg

>MAY'S CABINET
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36785814

>LATEST SPECTATOR
http://dropcanvas.com/c2g42

>BRITAIN ALREADY HAS 10 TRADE DEALS LINED UP WITH ECONOMIC POWERHOUSES
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/690191/Britain-ten-Brexit-trade-deals-lined-up-economic-powerhouses

>MAY RULES OUT SECOND SCOTTISH REFERENDUM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/no-appetite-for-second-independence-referendum-warns-scottish-se/

>MAY MAKES MORE MINISTERIAL CHANGES
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36811991

>UKIP LEADERSHIP CONTENDER STEVEN WOOLFE GIVES AN INTERVIEW TO BREITBART
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/14/video-exclusive-ukip-leadership-candidate-talks-raheem-kassam-party-plans-background-biggest-regrets/

>POLL: VOTERS DO NOT WANT A SECOND REFERENDUM AND SAY THERESA MAY SHOULD CONTINUE WITHOUT GENERAL ELECTION
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/poll-second-eu-referendum-brexit-theresa-may-general-election-voters-a7140721.html

>FARRON UPSET THAT LEADSOM DOESN'T WANT HIM TO DIDDLE KIDS
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-07-15/farron-leadsom-should-be-sacked-for-stupid-paedophile-comments/
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>Andrew Neil will be reporting from the RNC next week
>The BBC's American election coverage is Neil's remit

OH FUCK YES
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Fuck Germany
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BEST ISABEL
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Germans BTFO by Hammond

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/16/hammond-to-fight-eus-1-trillion-power-grab/
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Marion
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>>81487017
The Germans are our natural allies m8. We're from the same stock as them.
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>MUH trade deals

Fuck off

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/a-protectionist-moment/
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>yuroslaves
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POST THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD OR YOUR MOTHER WILL DIE TONIGHT
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>>81487163
Germans are our natural enemy because they always want to dominate Europe, and we always want to balance Europe.
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>>81487048
I'm glad our new chancellor is switched on and has a little backbone tbqh
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>>81487163
Germans are a natural enemy to nations that want to rule themselves. They are not an ally.
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>>81486999
Where did you see this? Is portillo going?
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>>81487163
The Germans are very different to us.

They detest freedom, whilst we revel in it.
We cherish justice and they abuse it.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the Germans and English are completely different peoples.
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Have any of you Brits tried mudlarcking in rivers and such? Ever found anything?
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>>81487349
How? They have never fought against us except when forced to.
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>>81487163
They are not our historical allies, unless it's against the French who we haven't fought since the 1800s. Krauts have tried on many an occasion to sink our great nation and the EU is only the latest attempt.
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>>81487369

He said it on Sunday Politics at the end, I just caught up with it
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>>81487441
ASDA trolley.
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>>81487163
>The Germans are our natural allies m8
They fail to rule over us every 50 years lad
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>>81486728
I'm not the one trying to deny the historical fact that Versailles was THE most direct cause of WW2 and saying that Versailles didn't completely redraw the borders of Europe into unstable, illogical, balkanised time bombs. Your ignorance is astounding for someone who speaks with such unabashed hubris and condescension. Here you go. This jewpedia page should introduce you to some basic facts you should've learnt in nursery school.

>Versailles didn't balkanise central europe, that was other treaties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles#Territorial_changes
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Requesting image that has "confused pensioners/meme lords"

Want to make a flag bearer image sometime
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>>81487163
>natural allies
>anyone other than our greatest ally portugal
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>>81487163
Stop listening to Americans.
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>>81487580
Both times it was us that declared war on them.
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>>81487836
It is literally true. Guess where Angles and Saxons came from.
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Think after tomorrow's vote that Trident will be the new dividing line in the labour party

Anyone who votes for it will be a blairite
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>>81487441
Not intentionally, but yeah sure. Most valuable things would be pocket change and fishing lures. Maybe the odd rusty bicycle.
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>>81487244
>>81487349
>>81487422
>>81487532
>>81487580
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>>81487738
The problem with Versailles is that it did not go far enough. Germany should have been broken back up into its constituent members. Letting Germany continue exist was the biggest mistake ever made in modern history.
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>>81487580
Isn't it embarrasing when you get knocked out by your own son?
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>>81487580
Just because they fail doesn't mean they try.

>>81487502
>Forced to
Yeah, because when they decided to invade France and threaten us with war, and we decided to protect ourselves, that was forceful.
And when they decided to invade Poland, despite us warning them not to, that war was forced.

Fuck off you German-apologist.
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>>81488026
>>>/germany/
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>>81487980
trip on
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>>81487852
We'd guaranteed the independence of poland before the German invasion
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>>81487163
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>81487939
Denmark

>>81488026
Hating Germans is not a reddit thing to do.
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>>81488026
>being historically literate is reddit-tier

You're a scotcuck or something aren't you lad?
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>>81487852
>>81488026
>>81488071
This ">muh the krauts dindu nuffin" meme needs to die lads
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>>81488036
>>81488091
>>81488137
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>>81488191
Blame 1/80th German Americucks
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>>81487980

Yfw no blu water navy with nukes and proper carriers.
https://campbellmemorandum.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/why-hawks-should-prefer-thunder-lightning-over-trident/
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>>81488036
That wasn't possible. The armistice wasn't entirely unconditional. They wouldn't have accepted the country being COMPLETELY removed.

Anyway, what's to stop them uniting, like Hitler united with Austria?

Had we only stopped them when they remilitarised the Rhineland everything would be fine today.
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>>81488191
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>>81488137
Unless you're a Welshman, hating Germans means that you hate yourself.
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>>81487939
I'm not disputing that even though a significant part of us still predates that migration period. Your attitude is just very American. They quite clearly aren't our natural allies since we've been competing throughout history and have disagreed on many fundamental issues.

English and British are distinct from whatever Germanic roots are present and trying to simplify it like you're doing isn't fooling anyone.
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What does brit/pol/ think of this man?
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>>81488427
Based. Should have killed ALL the taigs.
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>>81488107
Well done youve smugly misunderstood my post

Any labour mp who votes for Trident will be called a blairite, not by me
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>>81487980
What's the logic behind lefties wanting to replace Trident with higher funding of conventional armed forces when they outright refuse all foreign intervention?
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>>81488256
>Germany din du nuffin

>>81488323
The war should just have continued until Germany gave unconditional surrender. Then they could have been broken up.

>Anyway, what's to stop them uniting, like Hitler united with Austria?
They would never be strong enough to do it, France would have kept them down if they even thought about it.
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> P O L L
http://www.strawpoll.me/10770916
http://www.strawpoll.me/10770916
http://www.strawpoll.me/10770916

>>81487980
What is the brit/pol/ position, I know nothing about it tbqh
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>>81488256
They should have just deported the Jews and stopped them from holding any power in Germany. There was no need to burn them and gas them.

That being said, I don't have any contempt for the Jews who moan about the 6 million, since more than 10 million whites died too.
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>>81488427
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>>81488427
Allowed the Jews back into England. Unforgivable.
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>>81488477
Hangover from the cold war anti bomb protests (in no way KGB funded).
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>>81485733
I find it weird when people say Hitler was the saviour of the white race when he destroyed so much and only really gave a shit about Germans
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>>81488397
Is being pro-british and historically-literate reddit-tier now?
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>>81488427
My Dad is a big fan of him. I always wondered why he didn't just make himself King.
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>>81488502
We should adopt a less expensive minimum deterence doctrine IMO and focus on rebuilding our conventional forces.
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>>81488477
Because they really hate nuclear weapons

>>81488502
There hasn't been any realistic alternative that has the same range and functionality that costs less than Trident, all other choices sre inferior

It's really a question about I'd Britain should have nukes to which I think we should
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>>81488562
>They should have just deported the Jews and stopped them from holding any power in Germany. There was no need to burn them and gas them.
I dunno if you heard, but the holocaust isn't real.
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>>81488403
I love England and Wales. I'm half-Welsh and half-English myself. However, I understand that Germans aren't what they used to be, both culturally and racially.
Even then, only a small amount of the English came from Germany. It was mostly from Denmark, which is why our women are much cuter than your average German.
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>>81488562
That is what they planned to do before war broke out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
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> R E M I N D E R
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>>81488477
It's just an excuse. Lefties despise nukes.
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>>81488427

Born in Belfast to a unionist family.

Family move to Dublin when I'm 4

Spent most of my history classes defending this man and his actions.

Moved back to the UK for Uni.

I kinda miss those classroom debates tho.
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>>81488741
>but the holocaust isn't real.

Then why do people say Hitler did nothing wrong?
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>>81488741
Debatable, but the cartoonist clearly thinks it's real.

>>81488756
I know they did try to deport them, but there was really no need to gas them.
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>>81488802
Leave your divide and conquer bullshit at the door, Blairite shill
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>>81488655
>They fail to rule over us every 50 years lad
This is your idea of historically literate?
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>>81486882
Just tried leffe for the first time lads.
I think i'll stick to muh bitters and pale ales.
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>>81488502
We're all our own people here, but personally I think it's necessary.

There's nothing more effective in negotiations than the fact that if you try to invade (or try and threaten something along those lines) you will destroy yourselves. Particularly as a newly independent nation with neighbours we now have to do business with who may be rather sore at us.
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>>81488738

I agree, but part of me want Vulcans back. Or TSR2.

They'd be crazy to abandon Trident.
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>>81488906
Fuck off Blairite scum
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>>81488892
That is precisely what they mean by it. Germany did not start WW1 or WW2. And they did not gas anyone.
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>>81488742
Danes are also Germanic...
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>>81489253
Danes are not Germans though, and we are talking about Germans. Germans have always been an overbearing nation when they are united.
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>>81488502
I'd consider alternatives but we need to remain a nuclear power, it's incredibly important.
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>>81489161
>Vulcan
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Anyone else here think we should do some nuke tests once we start EU negotiations just as a reminder?
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>literally no anime spam in this thread for some reason
>the quality of the thread is 500% better
coincidence? I THINK NOT
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>>81489444
Mite b cool.
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my mum keeps telling me I need to make her some grandchildren

how the fuck do I tell her that there are no wholesome women worthy of marrying and starting a family with nowadays lads?
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>>81489444
Let the Scottish Leave voters get out first.
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>>81489225
>invade neutral Belgium
>invade Poland knowing Britain&France will go to war over it

m8 pick up a book sometime, in the prelude to WW1 the German Foreign Minister gave a "blank cheque" to Austria-Hungary so that they could force a war with Serbia with full German support, because it was more beneficial to Germany to fight in 1914 than later when Russian rearmament was finished.

/pol/ isn't always right, especially on WW1&2. Read some books lad.
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>>81489365
If any nation besides us were to dominate Europe I would want it to be the Germans. They are ethnically similar to us and their culture is one of the finest in the world.
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>>81489253
I have no problem with Germanics. I love the Danish, Dutch, Norwegians and Swedish. But when it comes to the Germans, I detest them.
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Reminder that Edinburgh is rightfully ENGLISH clay
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Lads, don't fall for the pro-German baiting.

WWI was a tragedy. Millions of men died for no good reason.

WW2 was a righteous fight by a society who thought they were finished with war to protect the freedom of the entire world. Any wrongs Britain had done over the centuries was righted by its position in WW2. It would have been incredibly easy to take the Switzerland route and become a client state of the Third Reich, but Britain (and the US, they helped too) wouldn't let that happen.

>>81488502
brit/pol/ is having a free vote on Trident. Personally, I think as a member of the UN Security Council, it's our responsibility to be a nuclear power, until potentially global disarmament happens, or the US develops a nuke shield and MAD goes out the window.

Even if we didn't spend the money on Trident, as leading members of NATO, we should be spending 2% of our budget on our military anyway. Trident means that we can do that, and still keep a largely reservist force.
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>>81489584
cheers for reminding me m8
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>>81489584
Get fucked Cleetus
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>>81489694
Well that's just stupid.
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>>81489678
I would rather no country dominate Europe. Europe is better divided.
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>>81489444
That would be a good way to erase much of the good will the world has for us and climb the world enemy ranking.

We're not North Korea.

But we could do a few naval exercises in the north sea/channel maybe. Turn back a few fishing boats.
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>>81487980
The second we decommission our nuclear deterrent program we will become just another small state to push around.

We need a nuclear defense because no one else is going to disarm their nukes anytime soon.

Anyone who says "oh we will never use it anyway" is a fucking moron, the point is should we suddenly need it in this unpredictable world, we have it.
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>>81489584
>mfw I just realised as well
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>>81489638
Americans are the reason /pol/ isn't always right.
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>>81489697
All of Lowland Scotland is Anglo-Scots, not Picts.

Even still, that map is the biggest meme I've ever seen.
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>>81489755
No, it's not. The other Germanic nations have done nothing to Britain - they don't hold any grudges, they're loyal and honourable, and just and free. But the Germans aren't. Their culture and way of life is destructive and malevolent and they always try to bring it our way (case and point, the EU).
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>>81489638
>>invade neutral Belgium
>>invade Poland knowing Britain&France will go to war over it

Pro hittler fags always claim they didn't start it .Saviour of the white race my arse .
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>>81489702
>until potentially global disarmament happens

That will never happen. As technology advances, it's going to become easier and easier for other states to develop nuclear weapons.
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>>81489937
Thing is the Kraut autists were so fucking stupid they could have won WW1 by just fighting France&Russia, attacking Belgium in violation of international treaties is what swung Parliament into intervening against them.

Hell I daresay Hitler could have won over Britain, France and Poland had he stopped at the Sudetenland and pointed to Communism in the east as the real enemy, Churchill would never have allied with Stalin had Hitler not forced him to.
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>>81489702
>to protect the freedom of the entire world.
Oh look, it's the 'Hitler wanted to take over the world' meme. He was only interested in retaking lands which had been under German rule.
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>>81489968
>global disarmament

In practice this just means slightly decreasing the amount of nukes you have.
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>>81489702
Global disarmament is never going to happen. Outside of incredibly unlikely and unfavourable scenarios nuclear weapons are here to stay. Given that we need to ensure we have a continued stake and voice on the nuclear stage.
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>they actually taught corbyn how to play pokemon go on sunday politics
KEK
E
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Didn't know islington was full of gommunists though, what the fuck is going on?
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>>81488896
>there was really no need to gas them
They did not gas anyone. Consider the story of Anne Frank, poster girl for the holocaust and a very typical experience.
>entire family deported from Holland directly to Auschwitz in autumn 1944, the height of the holocaust
>two months in Auschwitz - NO GASSINGS
>mother dies of starvation in Auschwitz
>Anne and her sister trasported back to Bergen-Belsen as the Russians advanced
>both die of typhus
>father survives
That is your holocaust. Starvation and typhus. No gassings. No government conspiracy.
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>>81490235
The Treaty of London was a scrap of paper. We had no reason to act on it.
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>>81490335
You know he dedicated part of Mein Kampf to talking about the need to eradicate slavs and take over large parts of eastern europe to use as German living space?
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Eternal reminder to join the leddit UKIP and smash the leftist remainians, just comment "UKIP" on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MHOC/comments/4qf3gl/join_a_party/?sort=new
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>>81490551
t. Kaiser Wilhelm II
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>>81486882
The Anglo-Chinese Alliance Marches On: Queen Elizabeth II, City of London Extremist Financiers, Rupert Murdoch Revealed as Brexit Sponsors
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Someone pls post "confused elders/meme lords/ pic. Wanna make a flag bearer image
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>>81490235
>Thing is the Kraut autists were so fucking stupid they could have won WW1 by just fighting France&Russia, attacking Belgium in violation of international treaties is what swung Parliament into intervening against them

Indeed .If we had not joined the frogs would have been slaughtered just like in 1870 .Entering that war was the biggest mistake we made but the Krauts had to force our hand
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>>81490501
Middle class white people with guilt
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Prove you're not a Blairite
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>>81490557
>You know he dedicated part of Mein Kampf to talking about the need to eradicate slavs and take over large parts of eastern europe to use as German living space?

Just banter
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>>81486999
Sauce pls
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>>81490677
Remember before America took in a bunch of Non-British European immigrants and was great?
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>>81490677
>Oswald Mosley
>No a based fascist
Also checked.
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>>81490799
Post the test then.
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>>81490799
You didn't post the site you pleb
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>>81490551
Things tend to work out well when countries honor their treaties, when they stop doing so you get WW1&WW2.

Frankly right or wrong I'm proud in the knowledge that our country stood by our obligations to Beligum. When you don't do that you get the cowardice of someone like Hitler, signing treaties and lying to others knowing full well that you won't do what you've agreed to do.
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We Didn't Start The Fire by Billy Joel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

The songs lyrics now take place between 2010-2016. What British/global events are highlighted?
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>>81489968
>>81490480
That's why I mentioned the US developing a nuke shield of sorts. Once they do that (and share with their allies, of course) they're free to nuke indiscriminately, and render things like Perimetr useless.

Once you have nuke shields, not much point in nukes anymore. Once the US develops it, expect the Chinese and Russians to """acquire""" one too a few decades later.

That being said, Trident is about the lowest we can take our nuke supply without getting rid of it entirely. I'm extremely in favour of Trident.

>>81490335
I don't just mean we'd all be speaking Germans. I mean we let the citizens of the world decide their future, not in an authoritarian regime. Change is done through politiking, rather than violent revolutions. Maybe you think Hitler's world would have been better. Good for you.

>>81490235
Britain had chosen its place alongside its fellow Triple Entente members. WW1 was a war of the three kings, and George wasn't going to abandon Nicky to the wrath of Willy.

>>81490702
No one wanted WW1 but it was an inevitability.
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ONE MILLION YEARS GULAG
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>>81490799
>Prove you're not a Blairite
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>>81491109
>Maybe you think Hitler's world would have been better.
I don't understand how anyone who can see the state of Europe today could think otherwise.
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>>81488172
>You're the british faggot who is historically literate.

England has been a Jewish colony for over 300 years. They never miss a chance to stab Europeans in the back. The brexit move was a Jewish deal with China.

We will do everything in our power to see England die out once and for all.
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>>81489937
>>81489638
>invade neutral Belgium
>Britain and France declared war and moved their troops onto the German border
>Germany launched blitzkrieg and brought what should've been a swift end to a war we should never have been involved in

>invade Poland knowing Britain&France will go to war over it
>make military pact with Poland to defend the indefensible Versailles treaty for the sole purpose of keeping Germany weak knowing full well that Hitler's entire foreign policy since the early 1920s was based on the reversal of Versailles
>don't declare war against the USSR even though they occupied a larger area of Poland than Germany

Stay bluepilled. You are wrong. Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>>81491318
Unless they've been fed lies from birth about what Hitler stood for.
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>>81491257
>He voted in pencil and not black pen

You basically didnt vote at all
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>>81491318
>things are a mess therefore Hitler was right
How old are you?
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Important scientific research

http://www.strawpoll.me/10771175
http://www.strawpoll.me/10771175
http://www.strawpoll.me/10771175
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>>81491471
>Stopping a single power from gaining hegemony over Europe for centuries
>Stabbing Europe in the back
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>>81491318
Because our own leaders didn't want this either

Churchill wanted to keep england white and publicly made it clear
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>>81491109
>the US developing a nuke shield of sorts

The problem with a nuke shield is that it has to cover 100% of the US and be 100% effective, which isn't going to happen any time soon.
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>>81491484
>don't declare war against the USSR even though they occupied a larger area of Poland than Germany
Yes, because fighting the two strongest countries in Europe would have made the odds so much better.

Stupid Germanboo idiot.
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>>81490894
>>81490895
http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php
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>>81491547

You say that yet 30k people (25%) voted leave in the 4th most pro-EU constituency in the country.
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>>81488427
Depends on how redpilled anon is. Majority here understand England must be destroyed before Western Civilization can repair itself. Cromwell turned England into a Jew colony. It's been that way ever since.

Brits really are some of the dumbest, historically illiterate cucks in all of European history.
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>>81491484
>Hitler did nothing wrong.
He sided with Pisslam, therefore he is of wrong.
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>>81491831
They probably all voted in pen
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>>81490954
What treaties did Hitler break apart from Molotov-Ribbentrop (implying it's not the height of basedness to stab commies in the back)?
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>>81490551
>Balance of power

>"Just let ze Germans dominate the continent and all channel ports you Inselaff- ich bedeute friends, natuerlich - ve are natural allies!"

If any one country on the continent becomes powerful/secure enough that it can build a fleet to rival ours, then our freedom of action and our security is significantly reduced.

It doesn't matter how much the current leadership likes Britain, or what their plans are for us - leadership can change quickly, unraveling a continental hegemon could be impossible.
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>Unironically not being a blairite

And brit/pol/ claims to be redpilled
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>>81490515
Well, I haven't read Anne Frank's Diary yet, so I'll probably have to read it.
But, what you say is interesting.

That being said, the main argument is the talk of Germans and Germany, not the Holocaust which is a deviation bought about by your cartoon.
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>>81491843
>Americans thinking they understand history
>Americans thinking they aren't the absolute worst at foreign policy
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>>81491843
Tell me again, which country is 60% white, exports cultural marxism around the world and gives Israel billions every year?
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LEAKED Map of ENGLAND in 2050
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>>81491843
You don't understand anything you mong

Cromwell said Jews were allowed back in, he didn't specifically bring them all over here

They'd been allowed in scotland the whole time
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>>81491318
There's a hell of a lot less people dying in Europe nowadays.

Entering the Second World War fucked the UK. We traded our empire for a peaceful Europe. I'll take the shitty EU any day over constant war and tension in Europe. At least I can shitpost on my computer at home in peace in this reality.

>>81491741
I don't imagine it taking the form of say, a large physical dome. I imagine it'll more be a world-wide satellite array (which they already have access to with GPS, as do the Russians with GLONASS and China, India and Europe are getting satellite navigation systems) combined with ground based anti-missile capabilities.

I think it's feasible within the next few decades, but the ethics of developing it are shady. Under MAD, if you think a competitor is developing a nuke shield, you can't let them complete it, and the only way to do that is nuke them before completion.
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SOMEONE FUCKING POST THE "CONFUSED ELDERS/MEME LORDS" HOW DIFFERENT POLITICAL PARTIES VOTED IN THE EU REF PIC
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>>81491737
Then he shouldn't have helped destroy the people who wanted to do the same in their nation.
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>gf turns heating on
>its almost fucking august
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>there are people here who haven't taken the Blair pill
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>>81492043
Don't bother, read a summary and be done with it.
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>>81492245
>gf turns heating on
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>>81492128
>Cumbria for Lothian
I don't like this trade desu

>>81492189
here lad
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>>81492245
>gf touches the thermostat at all
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>>81492257
This tbqh.

Blair is the truth we've all been looking for, even Hitchens realises Blairism is the future now
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>>81492238
This wouldn't have been a consideration, no politician in any of the western countries didn't want to keep their country white
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>>81492162
>I don't imagine it taking the form of say, a large physical dome.
Of course not.

>I imagine it'll more be a world-wide satellite array
Satellites can be shot down, and there will be some limit to their capacity to destroy missiles. It's also really, really difficult to make a reusable weapon based in orbit.
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Lads, someone post flag bearer pics pls

>>81492342
Cheers m8
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The British really are the most cucked out jewish faggots I have ever come across.

Brits are very unique. Not in a good way... in a very Jewish evil way. The most cavining, backstabbing, self important, chosenite complex faggots you'll ever meet, other than Jews themselves.

It really cannot be said enough times. England IS a Jewish country. At this point in history it's bone deep.
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>>81492507
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>>81488427
basically invented parliamentary democracy

then he went a bit mental. happens to everyone in the end.
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>>81492128
What does the name where Glasgow is say? 'Alduyd'?
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>>81491759
Russia could've been defeated at the end of the war, but instead the Allies let them occupy the entirety of eastern Europe including Poland for 50 years. Why do you think that is? (Hint: it's got something to do with the jews.) Poland had nothing to do with WW2, or about as much as defeating tyranny had to do with Iraq2.

>>81491883
Islam wasn't what it now is in those days. It was a romantic, harmless, powerless religion practiced by desert nomads and studied in Orientalist departments by people like Lawrence of Arabia.
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>>81491471
What a fucking cunt you are. So the US propping up the creation of the EU for trade wasn't Jewish or whatever mindless crap you're saying. The U.K. would wipe the floor with you redneck scum :)
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>>81492296
Is it Jew Propaganda?

>6 million of God's chosen people lined up to the gaping oven doors, smoke viciously billowing out of the chimney like a wyvern ready to scorch an entire continent. The people, hunched by the daily beatings of the Nazis, looked into the blazing and ravenous fire as if accepting their horrid and inhumane fate.
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>>81492503
>there will be some limit to their capacity to destroy missiles
Kek, I'm not imagining laser satellites (as awesome as they would be). I've designed potential orbital systems and I know how hard doing shit in space is. I said they'd probably be linked to anti-missile ground capabilities. We have the technology to keep a scan of the entire Earth at once, and we have the capability to shoot down missile mid-flight.

It's just the cost and keeping the project secret that stops this from being a reality.
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>>81491843
America has ten times the number of jews as the UK. And they run your entire government, media and universities.
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>>81492653
Cheers m88
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>>81492621
America has the highest Jews per capita of any country outside israel
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>>81492703
>Russia could've been defeated at the end of the war
Yeah, no. They planned this out and came to the conclusion it was suicidal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
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>>81491109
Actually Royal and public opinion was fairly icey towards Tsarist Russia because Britain had developed substantial idealogical differences from Absolutist Monarchism. We also had Royal ties with Germany but we didn't side with them because of it.

War came down to a vote in parliament, and parliament was very mixed on the matter until Belgium's neutrality was violated.

>>81491484
Neutral Belgium in WW1 you nonce, look up the timeline.

We made a pact with Poland after Hitler promised the Sudetenland was his last territorial demand and followed it by a full annexation of Czechoslovkia, that's fact. The facts prove I am right and you have none on your side m8.

Hitler genuinely believed we would not intervene against him despite our pledge to do so, he was literally in shock when he heard we declared war because he thought he could get away with taking Western Poland.

>>81491988
Treaty of Versailles,Treaty of Munich, and they cancelled the German-Polish Non-Aggression pact mere months before the war. Molotov-Ribbentrop was never intended to be permenant, Hitler intended it to give him time to defeat France&Britain so he wouldn't have a two-front war against the USSR.
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>>81491257
>That pencil work

Truly abysmal. Rehabilitate yourself quite honestly
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Taxation IS theft

I NEVER consented to the fruits of my labour being taken from me yet if I do not comply, men with guns will come to my house and put me in handcuffs and lock me in a cage while a man in a robe orders that my property be seized

How is this possibly considered okay?
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>>81492826
Tbf they've never had a Jewish head of government. We're basically equal in terms of Jewish influence.
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>>81492826
A lot more than that m8

Jewish population UK: 300k
Jewish population of USA: 7 million
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>>81492703
>Russia could've been defeated at the end of the war, but instead the Allies let them occupy the entirety of eastern Europe including Poland for 50 years

What reality are you living in .The red army would have annihilated the allied armies after the german defeat
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>>81492621

>Das Juden!
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>>81491471
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>>81491484
You're mixing up your wars.
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>>81493078
>The red army would have annihilated the allied armies after the german defeat

Nukes
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>>81492010
This is exactly what I'm talking about. These so called "redpilled" British anon are nothing but Neoconservative Trotskite Jewish Cucks.

It explains their overwhelming Jewish character and obsession with railing against just about everyone who even slightly speaks up against them.

In 2016 there is no difference between a Jew and a Englishman.
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>>81492886
>>81491988
Also Hitler sold out the Baltics, Bessarabia and Finalnd to the USSR in exchange for Molotov-Ribbentrop.
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>>81493048
Reminder that these stats show the number of people who follow the Jewish religion, not the number of ethnic Jews.
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>>81492128
Interesting map - estimated date?
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jesus, where did all the paranoid conspiracy goons in this thread turn up from? did the bus from tinfoiltown drop everyone off outside an internet cafe?

actually do internet cafes still exist?
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>>81493082
*Die
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>>81488288
We should really do this desu. The trident submarines have outlived their purpose and improving our general capabilities overall would be a lot more useful, even if it's at the expense of the invulnerable deterrent.

Unfortunately the powers that be won't have the vision for it. Trident didn't stop Argentina from threatening our assets because they know we'd never be crazy enough to actually use it unless we're already at the point of fucked.
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>>81493200
>not being a blairite
>thinks he's redpilled

Oh, how America has fallen
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>>81493190
The Americans only had 7 of them in 1945, and their detonation size was nothing really more powerful than a large air-raid. There was also no way to reach anything the Russians cared about, such as Moscow. Also if the Western powers had attacked the Soviets the Japanese and Soviets would have likely allied with each other so there would have been no Japanese surrender.
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>>81493082
*Die Juden

Der Jude = The Jew
Die Juedin = The Jewess
Die Juden = The Jews
Die Juedinnen = The Jewesses
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>>81492700
Yes, it's ancient Cumbrian Dumbarton desu
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>>81492886
Weird that both royal and parliamentary powers would have been against Russia, especially considering that a few years previously we were nearly at war over control over the Afghani and Turkic Middle East.

If Germany didn't go full Schlieffen (which didn't work anyway) and went for a more protracted war through the Maginot whilst they took down Russia alongside AH and Turkey, they might not have involved us in the war. We would have drifted closer to the US, and the Cold War would have happened without the Second World War potentially, with the Anglo bloc against the Germanic/Frank Bloc. Blog over.

>>81493331
Probably around 1100 based on CK2 playthroughs.

>>81493363
We don't need a huge fuck off navy if the Argies come calling again. For them specifically, we'll just get the debt collectors to fight them off and take their warships off them.
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>>81487070
wew
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>>81493200

Why are Americans obsessed with calling people "cucks". It's a weird fascination.
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>>81493341
>jesus, where did all the paranoid conspiracy goons in this thread turn up from? did the bus from tinfoiltown drop everyone off outside an internet cafe?

This is normal /pol/.

>>81493492
>The Americans only had 7 of them in 1945
The Russians didn't know that
>There was also no way to reach anything the Russians cared about, such as Moscow.
Or that
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>>81493041
Disraeli was pretty based, though.

Also, I was fucking warned for saging my own thread. What the fuck mods?
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OWEN SMITH WANTS A 2ND REFERENDUM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36820872

His campaign for the Labour leadership is based upon overturning the democratic process and screwing over Brexit

Good job this faggot has even less chance of winning than Eagle, and she's a lesbian
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>>81492999
Keep crying Libertarian faggot. I NEVER consented to you existing.
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>>81493331
Don't listen to that retarded faggot, it's not fucking 1100. England was a unified kingdom under Norman rule by then. More like the 8th century.
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>>81493331
Mid 800's or so

https://archive.org/details/literaryhistatlas00bartrich
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What's this 'blairites are redpilled' meme? Last I checked they're the antichrist of British policy
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>>81493830
>OWEN SMITH

L I T E R A L L Y
W H O
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>>81492043
The cartoon is just a meme.
>But, what you say is interesting.
You might find this interesting too. A tour of Auschwitz in the early 90s by an American jew who now does GOP campaigning in California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjNs-Ght8s
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>>81493756
Yes, they did. Stalin had spies throughout the American project, it is how the Soviets got the bomb, they just stole the model.
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>>81493920
It's bait.
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>>81488288
>>81493363
It has nowhere near the same range as Trident

It relies on unreliable air to air refuelling to even reach Moscow

We've discussed this before when the new statesman wrote an article on it
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>>81493756
There is no way a few nukes would have killed almost 6 or seven million soviet troops in Europe considering their 3 to 1 advantage in troops , or even more ,It would have been a repeat of 1940
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I don't support Webster Tarpley on many of his stances, particularly Trump. However he is absolutely correct on England being a traitorous nation full of kikes.

http://tarpley.net/behind-the-city-of-londons-brexit-coup-detat-a-british-chinese-alliance-of-infamy-against-the-united-states/

These British anons are absolute moronic "muh sail boat empire" heritage tier faggots beyond all belief.

They also believe Trump is on their side. I've seen British freaks say "Trump is the anglo-saxon savior" on twitter. Bwahahaha...... he's not even english. The english establishment hate his guts because he's outside their establishment.

You cannot get any more historically illiterate than these half tard anon British cucks.
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>>81493676
>>81493877
>it's not fucking 1100. England was a unified kingdom under Norman rule by then
Kek I was about to say
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>>81493987
Americans have to be easiest people to fool. Why we trust them with anything is beyond me.
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>>81493676
Just saying in general. I'd rather have more hard power than the invisible nuclear menace thought up for the cold war era. I oppose nuclear disarmament, but we can just switch to aircraft deployed weapons rather than the ICBMs. Yeah we won't be able to destroy the world with a single submarine, but we don't really need that threat any more.
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>>81493756
>This is normal /pol/.

well yeah but i thought we were a bit better than that
i think of these threads as a bit of a safe haven against the loony septics
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>>81490799
wew lads
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>>81493830
>OWEN SMITH WANTS A 2ND REFERENDUM

Good luck winning the Northan vote after that lmao
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>>81494003
Kek, got me fooled
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>>81492621
BEADY
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>>81493954
I don't doubt that the narrative has been twisted, but I find it very difficult to believe that the Holocaust is entirely fabricated. Even the Jews couldn't get us to swallow a lie that big.
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>>81494108
What's he going to do to hurt us if he's so against us? Call us mean names?
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>>81493041
>implying
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>>81491785
You are a: Objectivist Libertarian Isolationist Reactionary

Collectivism score: -83%
Authoritarianism score: -67%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 0%
Liberalism score: -67%

I am literally not an Objectivist. DId some /pol/ack make this?
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>>81490799
But anon, I am a Blairite.
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>>81493676
The Great War is a great series on it, also recommend 1914 by Max Hastings, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22lCxUrx5Y&list=PLu7g1OfsO2vcKnzSXQiCHisyUIQcclbxr

Maginot wasn't even a thing in 1914, Plan XVII was a disaster for France, the BEF really did a lot to bail them out. Given the incredible victories like Tannenberg you're right, taking down Russia first would have been a far better plan with far less casualties for Germany, but we can only see that in hindsight.
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Karen is like the British Kasich,

fucking retarded.
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>>81494088
A few tactically delivered ones could unleash absolute carnage on Russian battlegroups.

Then again you're probably right, what's another few more million dead Russians to Stalin?
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>>81493472
>Chooses a photo of a Jew laughing and pointing.
>Is British

Jesus christ you British cucks are unreal. Just some Tory Jew screaming and yelling trying to hold on to the last remaining ropes of power quickly slipping out of you grasp.

England will fall...... and when it does, the West will cheer.
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>>81494511
Why are you here?
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>>81493987
And almost all of those spies just happened to belong to a certain religio-ethnic group, which mobilized vocal and emotional defenses for most of them.
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>>81490799
You are a: Conservative Libertarian Isolationist Nativist Traditionalist
Collectivism score: -67%
Authoritarianism score: -67%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 67%
Liberalism score: -33%
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>>81494634
Russian battlegroups were right next to the Allied ones. The Soviets would notice troops pulling back from bombing target areas.
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>>81493830
>>
>be yank
>Hmm yes what thread shall I pick
>ahh yes the British ones

Nah fuck off yank twats, bored of your off topic discussion
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>>81494527
I keep meaning to watch the Great War, I really enjoy but can hardly find the time.

>we can only see that in hindsight
Agreed, if I had suggested a long war in France and a relatively quick one in Russia whilst in the German high command at the time I'd have been laughed at.
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Could David Davis be anymore Based?

I've thought about it and I don't think so

>Migrant surge will be deported
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>>81494645
kek how are people falling for this plebs bait?
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>>81494650
Why are yanks so retarded?
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>>81494887
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So Lancastrians take out a Yorkish helicopter and they just take it?
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>>81494887

[X] British one
[ ] Non-British one
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>>81491785
Why is it on some Somali website?
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>>81495018
>There is an alternate universe where he beat Cameron
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>>81494286
OC lads
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>>81495070
Why are you so obsessed
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>>81492886
>Neutral Belgium in WW1
Hitler didn't command WW1.

>Treaty of Versailles
Hitler didn't sign Versailles and stated openly in public in the early 1920s that he regarded it as illegitimate, which he was entitled to do and was elected by democratic mandate on that platform, and unjust, which was absolutely correct.

>Treaty of Munich
Hitler didn't break any of the provisions of Munich.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/munich1.asp

It was Chamberlain who signed an agreement with Hitler never to go to war with each other. It was Britain who broke that agreement by declaring war in 1939. Even after that Hitler continued to make peace offers even until after Dunkirk which were ignored by the British government.
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>>81495070
We're fucked.

Nigel is useless and the others are too lazy or corrupt.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36742691
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>>81495196
Nice one lad, pretty accurate too
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