According to a "reliable" source from twitter, here's how it went down (he claims his source is a Kemalist secular within the TSK)
>this was done by cemaat (fetullah gülen supporters)
>12 people attacked the hotel that Erdoğan stayed in
>all of them are known to be muslims who pray 5 times a day and shit
>the "brains" of the operation were all cemaat members, rest were just rused or just soldiers that had to obey commands
>This was most like a last ditch "harakiri" effort by the cemaat members because they received information that they were gonna get arrested soon so they used their last bullet basically
>this is why the "coup" was so poorly organized, they had little time to plan
So basically islamoshits vs islamoshits. Welcome to new fucking turkey
>>81284542
So ataturks military officialy is no longer secular? If they were they would have intervened tonight, wouldn't they?
>>81285465
They were told to "stay put". If military fought each other that's basically civil war
some of them neutralized coup members in an airbase though and handed them over to the police
So the real coup is still on schedule once erdogan tries to make himself a dictator? Nice.
>>81284542
so how much does the army get damaged by this ?
great defender of secular democracy in AttaTurk's Turkey...
Is it gone now ?
>>81285914
no its over. turkey is now fucked forever since that pig Erdogan already put his people in army, and now he cna remove everyone he doesnt like in army and nobody says a thing. this coup was last chance. now we are all fucked desu, it wasnt only about turkey but whole europe aswell.
>>81285772
Is Gülen network the muslim Scientology? What do they want?
>>81284542
they let fuck could they lose this with F-16s on their side. fucking military retards.
also, since when the fuck do clerics (gülen) have influence on the secular military in turkey?
makes no sense at all.
>>81286039
In theory, they are fucked. All their reputation is gone because they failed misrebly
on an other side, they basically weeded out the "bad seeds" in this event so they may get stronger.
The biggest winner in all this is Erdoğan though obviously
>>81284542
also, isnt this the first military coup in turkey that failed?
embarrassing.
>Turkey btfo kurds
>Turkey btfo Russia like its no big deal
>Turkey btfo refugees
>now Turkey btfo its own islamists
>people still hate Turks
Am i the only one who thinks they are fucking badass?
>>81286452
>now Turkey btfo its own islamists
but Erdogan is islamist. kys Honza
>>81286452
None of these happened expect maybe the last one
>>81286326
Something really fucked up here. If the turk airforce was a big part of the coup, and we were watching the bastard circle for 2 hours on flightradar 24, how could they not get one f-16 to shoot him down?
Fucking US and UK tabloids took the bait from his staff about "applying for asylum"...unless it was a total cluster fuck and they fell for the decoy.
>>81286326
F-16's were hunting coup Supercobras
No F-16s were on Coup side.
They shot down 2 coup helicopters.
>>81286452
>fucking badass?
get back inside the kebab shop, diaspora faggot.
>>81286164
>>81286326
Gülen supporters have infiltrated every part of the state, including the military years earlier. They were buttbuddies with Erdoğan so this was easy for them. They stole the exam questions for the government acceptance exam for example so they easily got in.
Their goal was to get rid of the seculars all together which was supported by Erdoğan but for some reason a few years ago they became enemies. Feto prosecutors have arrested countless kemalist high ranking military officers in the past because they were planning a coup which was supported by Erdoğan but after they became enemies, all of them were released.
Whole thing is shady as fuck since Gülen lives in USA supposedly supported by CIA
>>81286556
They all look correct.
>>81286452
>now Turkey btfo its own islamists
where do you get this from? How do you think Erdogan got people out to the street to riot? He had mosques announce a "call to prayer" despite it not being "prayer time."
The islamists were on his side.
>>81286452
>turky btfo russia
did i miss somehting? last time i checked they shoot down a friendly plane and then apologized for it after they lost too much money because russian tourists were not allowed to go there
>>81286452
I gotta give it to Erdogan. What a smart motherfucker.
>>81286446
the win/lose ratio is 2:2 now
>>81284542
Will the soldiers who were just carrying out orders and did not understand the full extent of the operation be harshly punished?
>>81286326
Because Erdogan "purged" a lot of secular leaders, replaced with gülen puppets. All worked fine till they had a fallout a couple of years back.
>>81286673
He means Fetullah Gülen cult members. same shit, different color basically but they are fighting amongst each other
>>81286616
> F-16's were hunting coup Supercobras
how does that compute? F16 belong to the military. And it was a military. So military was fighting against military?
Know what, I don't care, I just want Turkey walled off from Europe. You want to argue half of Constantinople is in Europe, fine, build it on the Bulgarian border, don't care.
As far as Greece, as this point the Turks can have it, they are losers who were duped by the Jews into taking loans they couldn't pay and they aren't "real greeks" anymore anyway.
Just keep fucking bullshit islam out of Europe, we have a very big purge ahead of us as it is.
Wonder what the Yanks do with the nukes during these times. The nukes should not even fucking be there, but another story.
>>81284542
>So basically islamoshits vs islamoshits
Well, I guess I don't have to be upset about the coup failing then.
>>81286898
yes, most of the military is loyalist
>>81286898
Just because they had a military coup doesn't mean the whole army was behind it.
>>81286903
>As far as Greece, as this point the Turks can have it, they are losers who were duped by the Jews into taking loans they couldn't pay and they aren't "real greeks" anymore anyway.
t. Toniblerim
>>81286373
How does this effect the Turkish people? will teh government tread on your civil liberties, mass witch huntings on dissenters? forced to covert to Islam?
>>81286996
Erdogan can use this to solidify is dictatorship. And I believe he will do this.
>>81287223
I dunno but things can only get worse from now on
>>81286848
so this coup is a succes regardless?
>>81285099
Friendly reminder ali was a fucking psyop false flag event to plug up media outlets
>>81287239
Of course he will, I just meant that the rebels winning wouldn't have been a better outcome either if they were just another branch of islamoshits
>>81286848
Just islamist infighting? But those soldiers on the bridge were just following orders and caught in the crossfire?
that makes me even sadder about this whole situation
>>81286811
the islamist hordes have already begun to lynch them...
>>81286732
t. anned ahmed
>>81287366
Yeah pretty much. 90 people died for no reason.
>>81286137
Pretty much this. Ergodan now personally and directly control the intelligence services and police. Has total control of Parliament and is increasing his own executive power by changing the constitution. I'd expect after this he'll take more direct control of the armed forces too. Basically a one man show. We just have to wait for him to die, by which time I think that the secularism cemented by Ataturk will be gone.
Bye Turkey. We hardly knew ya.
>>81287327
I just hope that the military isn't already full blown islamofacist already. Maybe they can still turn it around but somehow I think Turkey will become another islamic state and detoriate into a big pile of shit.
>>81287457
It probably will. Erdogan will use this incident for his final grab for power and afterwards the remaining secularists will have a much harder time doing anything about it.
>>81286326
since forever
Gülen has control on everything since 90's
Leave Erdogan to me.
>>81287592
The funny thing is secular kemalists and erdoğan are becoming allies now.
google doğu perinçek for the redpill
>>81287771
he has nice eyes
>>81286645
really made me think
ive been following this shit from the begging and its fucking weird
Erdogan played this perfectly, actually impressed by his dealings with this. That motherfucker knows what he's doing
>>81287810
Your country is a total clusterfuck
>>81287971
im really suprised how it turned out to be
>>81287971
I dunno man, he was doing a Facetime speech from what looked like the shitter in his Führerbunker.
Seems like he mostly won because of his rabid supporters and not really because of the actions he himself took.
>>81287453
bye bye any chance of becoming an EU member state. but who would wanna be part of that, fuck it. but they were gonna join, although they would probs welcome them with open arms, phew we leaving.
Why is Turkey even allowed to be part of NATO?
>>81288140
thats why its impressive
the faggot ran off to hide the whole time and got the muslim to do his bidding
>>81287990
It's a fucking joke.
Would've dissolved decades ago if it wasn't propped up by the US and NATO in general.
>>81288140
He won because the coupers didn't get support from rest of the military and they didn't attack the civs basically
>>81288152
It's right next to Putintopia
>>81287971
stfu u turkish cockroach islamist faggot. turkey lost its identity. it is now a islamist shitcountry like saudi arabia.
>>81287898
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state
>The deep state (Turkish: derin devlet) is alleged to be a group of influential anti-democratic coalitions within the Turkish political system, composed of high-level elements within the intelligence services (domestic and foreign), Turkish military, security, judiciary, and mafia. For those who believe in its existence, the political agenda of the deep state involves an allegiance to nationalism, corporatism, and state interests.
>The ideology of the deep state is seen by leftists as being anti-worker or ultra-nationalist; by Islamists as being anti-Islamic and secularist; by ethnic Kurds as being anti-Kurdish, and by liberal democrats as anti-democratic and anti-liberal.
>>81287810
very well memed
I got your back based assad
>>81288140
He had them on a wild goose chase, shortly after he left Marmaris it got bombed by jets in favor of the coup.
>>81288152
EU has a hardon for authoritarian leaders. Turkey will now join the EU, Juncker is probably really excited right now.
>yfw this speech is older than a decade
>>81288282
How did it 'lose its identity' faggot?
Muslim, Jew and Christian leaders in Turkey made a statement that they are all against the coup
>>81288550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WpyG6rlvdw
>>81284542
I am calling it man. This shit is gonna see Erdogan take more powers.
>>81286164
without gülen erdogan wouldn't be in power
they were bffs and their ideology is basically the same
they went separate ways after some conflict about money
>>81288456
I feel sorry for you Germans desu
>they got organized via whatsapp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWMF5mRc1E
lmao
>>81288559
turkey is nominally supposed to be secularist, now it'll be turkestan
>>81288562
I thought you were all converted to Hurka Durka sand cult during the Ottoman Empire. How many Christians are left in Roachistan?
>>81288562
I assume everyone who doesn't will end up in jail.
>>81288562
No fucking surprise, since all pro-coup supporters are being rounded up right now.
>>81288662
Yeah.
6h long coup attempt.
0 ministers arrested.
What did they even try to achieve if they were serious about it?
>>81288683
lol why?
>>81288951
a couple attempts at erdogan's life, they fucked it up though
>"The government will consider restoring the death penalty for those who attempted the coup, Mehmet Muezzinoglu, deputy head of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), says.
Following his comments, #Idamistiyorum ("I want death penalty") has become the top trend on Twitter in Turkey. The hashtag has been used more than 23,000 times. "
AKP has an absolute majority at this point, it WILL pass
Are they seriously going to just stand there and take it ?
>>81288562
>"But guys nobody even supported it!"
>*Closes the door that leads to the mass grave of coup supporters*
It checks out
>>81288152
>Why is Turkey even allowed to be part of NATO?
even a 4th grader could figure this one out
>>81289006
Even if these attempts of your occured I'd say his plane idling in the sky despite hostile jets in the area is proof enough.
But it's fine, we can both have our own beliefs.
>>81287366
Just woke up, what happened on the bridge?
>>81288152
>what is russia and the middle east
>>81289221
Soldiers at the bridge surrendered.
>>81289110
so basically they tried this now and failed?
>>81288662
still feel sorry for the scapegoated infantry that was getting massacred and refused to attack the civilians
>>81288152
>Why is the country that controls the Bosphorus strait, preventing Russia from using all its warm water ports to position in the Mediterranean, strategically important to NATO
Gee, I wonder
>>81289351
I doubt it. The CIA for all of its faults would have done a much better job than today's shitshow.
>>81289110
literally doesn't though
>>81289399
this
used as toys and thrown away
fuck this
I still don't understand why was the decleration read by the newswoman at TRT was basically saying that Turkey strayed too far from Ataturk's principles? It does not seem like something Fetullah Gulen's followers would say.
And they don't even arrest any high ranking officals just because they had short time to prepare or shut down communications until Erdogan orders his followers to march to the streets?
In any case, whatever left of the old Turkey is pretty much dead today.
>>81289110
What does
It does not check out at all
>>81286645
So what's their ideology exactly? What makes them gulenists and not regular muslims?
>>81289584
false flag nigga
So actually, what about that deep state thingy mentioned above? Does it actually exist? Who does it support? What will it do now?
>>81289470
>>81289351
if they really wanted him to go down, he would have been dead in the first hour.
look at the past events of the "arab spring", no coup has ever succeeded without an exterior sponsor that made a supportive statements as soon as events started
>>81289584
Erdogan will use the opportunity to seize full powers. Not just "presidential status", but pretty much banana republic dictatorship
It's starting to become blatant this is a false flag. Soldiers were agitated with pro-democratic propaganda until a very limited democratic uprising, with minimal risks of damaging the population or actual democratic institution, took to the streets with arms and tanks
They were crushed. Now Erdogan will re-instate the death penalty, purge the entire officers corps and install strict anti-coup policies to get the naturally pro-democratic army out of his way entirely
And if an opposition party tries to oppose this, they will be linked to the coup and brutally repressed by Erdogan's fanatics
>>81289714
This guy.
>>81289584
That coup felt wrong in hindsight. They should have aimed for erdogan first while taking control of the media. Bad attempt or a fucking false flag. This is so wrong.
>>81289584
Because that's how it's been done in the past, and it's the only way they'd get any support from the people. It's not like they can go "hey guys where part of a small cult and we're taking over, say goodbye to your elected strongman".
I'm guessing they were also gambling on more parts of the military joining them if the coup looked like it might succeed.
>>81286652
kurdistan exists and their fighters keep taking out turkish police and military on a daily basis
turkey is getting its shit pushed in by the lack of russian tourists this summer
turkey is the refugee supplier
turkey is already controlled by islamists
people DO still hate turks, because they cant fucking in2 civilization and more and more people are waking up to the fact that the biggest shitstain in the world is Turkey and the liquid turd known as erdoweenie
anyone who calls me a kurd or armo for this post is clearly a dirty diseased turkroach, for I am neither
>>81289936
They aimed at him but missed.
when you come at the king, you better not miss
>>81289584
This
Why should followers of Gülen shoot at praying muslims or people screaming 'Bimillah, allahu ekber' every ten seconds
>>81289110
>>81289351
It seems likely. Erdogan may be a little bit too ambitious and unpredictable for US to deal with. They would have probably preferred a more loyal and obedient government.
>>81286732
t.Angela
>>81287449
They died for something, Achmed
They died on the streets, for what they believed in (Be that the teachings of a goat-shagging prophet)
Must admit it takes balls to do it.
That's why the country is theirs now.
They didn't spend the night shitposting on /pol/ and reddit
>>81289936
They did, they bombed his villa in Marmaris but fortunately he'd left in time
>>81286452
RIDF has poisoned the well for Turks on this site, they will never get credit for anything.
>>81289631
He wants sharia law. To simply put it we can call him an extremist targeting a laid back muslim country.
turkish men realized they can't fuck their 9yo bride legally in a real democracy. so they went out on the streets to fight for their rights under erdogan /turkey
>>81290064
Hey I am fine with kurds.
They hate roaches and fuck up ISIS.
Just because you are a commie does not mean you are my enemy instantly.
False flag clear as day.
>>81290255
turkroaches poisoned their own shit-well, subhuman russians aren't much better than them
PM is talking right now
>>81288140
He is Greece.
>>81290589
What's he saying?
>>81289006
>>81289197
Ignore leafposters. They are Islamist shills.
Friendly advice from /sg/
>>81290677
It was terror attack and now it was over
I'm worried that thousands of pro-Erdogan Turks went on the streets in Germany last night.
>>81290677
nothing we haven't heard yet
>>81290677
durka durka Muhammad jihad
>>81288230
They rolled over people with tanks and shot at them dumbass.
That's why we have 90 dead and 1000+ injured.
>>81290783
...shit
>>81284542
Okay so it was more radical Gulen supporters vs. Slightly less radical Erdogan +secularists. Okay then I'm happy coup failed.
>>81290745
Soon your newspapers will report merkel saying "look at how good the mudslime is, they also want erdogan to stay"
>>81284542
>Fetullah Gulen
https://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Clinton-Ties-Turkish-Imam/2016/07/14/id/738643/
Another thread picked this up, Clinton is tied to him. History of being "pro-west" and emailing Clinton for meetings with Obama.
>>81289351
>>81289588
>>81289480
>>81289110
>>81290135
Feels like it checks out at SOME level.
>>81286903
How can someone be that stupid ? What you are proposing wouldn't work geographically you French dumbass , jesus
>>81290701
fuck you proxyfag, I was rooting for their success like most of us were
>>81291031
Gülen has been supported by USA and CIA for years. He lives there ffs.
They put Erdoğan in power btw but they can't control him anymore so all this shit started
>>81290255
Because it is completely impossible that people could have decided that Turkey is not really a great country on their own, they MUST be following propaganda.
Did I understand correctly?
He saying that is over and have control but they are geared up for war?
wut
Typically i roll my eyes at false flag talk but...
Erdogan's cabinet discussed false flag attacks inside Syria many times, which were leaked at the height of the Syrian civil war.
>http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-youtube-ban-full-transcript-leaked-syria-war-conversation-between-erdogan-officials-1442161
>Captured Coup-Soldiers claim that their commander told to them it was "Training" not a "Coup" they also claim that they had no idea what was going on untill People tried to attack them.
I actually was watching a livestream (periscope) where a solider was sitting casually in a tank (that may sound weird but he really was just in his tank doing nothing) and suddenly he gets swamped by people and they start beating the piss out of him, it seemed so weird at the time I watched but thinking back on it...
>>81290191
kek
>>81291127
Well obviously. I meant to say as much, since he's the prime fucking candidate, but I've been up for too long.
Doesn't feel like a directed attempt to force Erdogan out by the US as much as this being the first and shitty attempt by the Gulenists - no planning and everything such a failure, rushed, with much of the infantry just giving up, like they didn't know what they were doing there in the first place.
>>81291105
You are just jealous we still have gold reserves.
hello fellow theocratic military junta
>>81288675
So a bit like the SA and Hitler?
>>81284542
>rest were just rused or just soldiers that had to obey commands
That's why you must have loyal to party political officers in every unit to approve questionable orders.
PM basically confirming they will bring back executions for this shit
He's saying they will demand USA to send Gülen to Turkey
He's saying if USA doesn't send him or keeps helping him, they cannot be allies of Turkey
>>81286645
>Gülen supporters have infiltrated every part of the state
Nice isn't it?
When will you take back your grey wolves retards?
>>81286616
I saw three f-16s engaged in a dog fight last night at around 3 over ankara. So at least there was one f 16 controlled by the coupers.
>>81288684
Can you go through that video and see if there's anything being said that could be an important part of history in the making? Are the people conversing significant in any way? Is anything revealed that could later be hidden? Times, people involved, location...anything like that?
Details and tidbit are crucial to historical record. Please take a look at the conversation and translate for us.
>>81291886
grey wolves are literally worthless at this point
Turkish army taking their Pokemon Gym way too serious
Are we sure it's gulen or is it just erdogan bullshitting?
>>81291864
Seriously? Then it could actually get interesting again.
>>81291942
They have always been worthless here
But I think they should go back to being worthless in Turkey, because it's getting kinda sad watching them here.
>>81291927
It's very long and I'm lazy as fuck. But you can see people involved getting added to the whatsapp group, saying they took the government radio, they blocked the roads etc.
One colonel says shots can be fired to AKP supporters that are coming
>>81286137
> we
Stay cucked yuropoor
>>81290667
Wrong time and place, to place personal feuds, Alexandrovsky. Have your tea and rice, say prayers, and sleep it over.
>>81291864
Okay, so this fuckup might in worst case scenario actually cost NATO turkey or at least Turkey acting as a Trojan horse in NATO for Russia?
>>81292062
yes they fucking riot on here because of a coup in turkey ...degenerates, later today they will do one again
>>81292211
But he really is there.
He was denied asylum in Germany and UK
>>81288315
Pretty sure every country has this. Europe has bilderburg.
>>81291444
UNCOMMON
>>81292138
funny how these shit countries barely created anything (aside from USA, and that's just because of the massive european influx, and the uk, because they are europeans in denial)
>>81292281
It's not just that
Their power grabbing tactics are pathetic and fail pretty much every time
Look at DENK. It's like watching children squabble.
>>81284542
>they had little time to plan
>>81289110
Fuat Avni is not one person.
>>81291864
kek, Obama will comply and look like a weak faggot. This makes Turkey even more alienated to the west and I doubt that they will be able to get a stable relationship with russia.
>>81292442
>moderates
>>81292704
I wouldn't be so sure about the US complying with it. That would be a MASSIVE loss of face, worse even than his red line for Syria.
>>81292704
>Obama will comply and look like a weak faggot
this
He's a cuck bro. He is... He is no better than the French government when it comes to thoughts & ideas such as "learning to live with terrorism"
>>81288662
rare
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>>81289776
was handing erdogan more power part of their plan?
>>81286811
Yes, death penalty is now in effect for 2,800 troops involved in coup.
>>81292442
did he deaded?
The officers have ran away to Greece apparently
Wait so let me get this straight based roaches in this thread.
Erdogan will now have even more power right? So what will he do with it?
If he pushes the islamization even further, will the whole military intervene or will they just stand idle.
>>81286326
>since when the fuck do clerics (gülen) have influence on the secular military in turkey?
It's actually a very long story. Gulen is just the last in the line of Imams planted by the West ever since Ottoman Times.
It's crazy how history repeats itself.
>>81293326
not a roach but others said that he put his people in charge of high ranking militarypositions. So there is a chance that nothing might happen and ata turks vision of turkey dies in the end.
>>81293326
>If he pushes the islamization even further, will the whole military intervene or will they just stand idle.
That's the thing, right after a failed coup like this and the subsequent purge they will be extremely hesitant.
New theory: this was a double false flag. The military wants to stage a full coup but doesn't have the support for it yet, so they stages a small coup using Gulen as an excuse. Now Erdo will use this as an excuse to increase his power, which the rest of the military will use as an excuse to stage their real coup in a couple months. Since the top generals were taken as hostages in this coup they can distance themselves from the failed Gulen extremist clique and reform Turkey into the democratic secularist republic that is deserves to be.
>>81291864
Be USA, tell Erdogan to suck it.
Turkey leaves NATO.
Russia seizes opportunity and takes erzurum.
>>81293521
Yes but if they go too far. Say go after the families of the frontline soldiers involved. That will stir up some shit won't it?
My thinking is that if the prosecution goes even a tiny bit too far they are going to face retaliation and not just from Gulen supporters.
>>81287282
Why?
>>81293624
Wishful thinking anon.
>>81293624
nah. top generals are all pro-erdo guys. he literally has a say in picking them due to being commander in chief
>>81290802
90 dead
an single dumbfuck truck in france can do.
>they used lots of restraint
>>81293624
Nobody who isn't pro-Erdogan will remain in the military after the upcoming purge.
>the pilot who shot down Russian Su-24 was among rebels accroding to mayor of Ankara
Welp.
http://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/595538/alert-tourkiko-stratiotiko-elikoptero-zitise-adeia-kai-prosgeiothike-stin-alexandroupoli-/
grbros translate pls
>>81284542
>>81285772
We've seen the images of soldiers behind beheaded,throats slit and head bashed in before being thrown into the Bosphorus and put down on the death toll list as "Coup plotters".
Lovely Islamic state you got there Turkey.
>>81293803
Yes, but I want it to be true.
>>81293812
so theres just no fucking hope for turkey?
What would have happened if military won?
>>81294089
lel that guy is a troll, don't take him seriously. he's the one who said "respect the robot"
>>81286898
Most of the military including the top officials were against the coup. Hence, it failed
>>81294113
there's always hope. there's more hope now actually because removing Gulen shit from military is very important
>>81294089
That is prob a lie.
>>81292090
>One colonel says shots can be fired to AKP supporters that are coming
Permission to shoot? See, this is the shit we need to document.
ARE THERE ANY TURKS OUT THERE WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO TRANSLATE THIS?
>>81293624
>retarded American again
New theory: This was a quadruple false flag. The aliens want to invade the Earth and made Obama start a coup in Turkey blaming it on the Gulen movement but actually the aliens are Turks who wanted to attack the Gulen movement.
>>81288439
Sauce?
>>81294276
They weren't against the coup.
If they had shot down Erdogans jet then the rest of the military would have backed the coup, theres a reason why the rest of the military didn't immediately attack the coup.
>>81288152
>Why is Turkey even allowed to be part of NATO?
Geography, no other reason.
Turkey's army is large but it's completely useless and mostly occupied keeping internal peace or watching the borders
>>81294098
Turkish helicopter landed after sending emergency signal in Alexandropolis.
It is believed to be Turkish coup officials asking for asylum.
>>81294485
are all swiss this horribly cucked? god I'm glad I'm not European.
>>81288662
Big fan btw
>>81294089
It's their way of saying dindu
>>81294607
How did they fuck that up anyway? They had the advantage of surprise on their side and your number 1 priority should be to kill the leader as quickly as possible to stop your opponents from rallying around someone
>>81294718
sheeet, wonder if they'll be sent back
>>81293624
I thought the same thing
>>81294100
Source?
>>81293624
I hope I FUCKING HOPE
but it feels not so possible
what is the victim count?
so far i think:
0 erdogans
0 politicians / erdogan backers
17 police officers
2+ civilians
right?
I don't know how keen the EU will be in letting your nation in for the next century after this shit.
Unspoken rule that member states can't be so prone to military coups, I think.
>>81294980
>>81295021
160+ cops and civilians
104 coup backers
>>81295021
You're kidding right?
I'm really glad it all ended like this. More destabilization and division in society and army. Trials, executions and repressions to come.
Very nice. It would be bad if the coup was successful (if it was secular, of course), a democratic and secular Turkey is a strong Turkey. I like it more this way.
>>81295021
161 civilians/police and 104 coup supporters dead
1000+ arrested
>>81295191
>>81295135
>>81295106
so zeros erdogan staff? sounds pretty strange to me
EIGHT TURKISH ARMY OFFICERS HAVE LANDED IN GREECE ABOARD A MILITARY HELICOPTER CLAIMING POLITICAL ASYLUM FROM AN ISLAMIST REGIME.
>>81294485
sounds like your own
>m night shyamalan
movie
>>81295246
yeh we already know, sperglord
>>81295176
Now I understand why they considered Armenians the Jews of Ottoman Empire
>>81295240
some of erdo staff was held hostage, but were rescued by spec ops
>>81294834
to be executed...
depends how Greece gov. and turkey are getting along.
>>81290363
>Just because you are a commie does not mean you are my enemy instantly.
It wouldn't be the first time USA makes some friends that later turn out to be enemies because they were shit to begin with.
Why did you bomb the Serbs when they were removing kebab?
Your next enemy is Saudi Arabia. You pretend to be friends now, but they are a bunch of backwards Sharia-happy camel fuckers.
>>81289631
They think Gulen is some magical creature.
>>81295246
Well, looks like Georiga looses rank one at "Shittiest armies of the world".
>>81295090
What fuck sort of army lets itself get physically beaten and executed like this?
I just can not imagine western soldiers taking this shit. If they surrendered and were treated like this they would rapidly fight back with their fists and feet. Especially from a pack of fucking civvies in their own damned country.
>>81291334
well all talk of a false flag is pretty much over now that 8 officers involved in the coup escaped to greece seeking asylum
this shit is real, and likely Gulen as everyone is saying.
>>81295506
Saudis already put a down payment
on the next president
>>81288152
>Why is Turkey even allowed to be part of NATO?
>why do you want a large, well-funded, mostly competent military which has only ever been used in internal matters to be part of your alliance
gee
>>81294750
That's Nauru you island-illiterate.
>>81289631
>>81295549
literally this. I lived in a student flat of them for a while. Gülen is literally the messiah and they will be victorious because god is on their side.
I also know a guy who was in that movement. He wanted to become a teacher but his "big brother"(thats how they call their superiors in the sect") told him "we have enough teachers already, we need people in the military now.
So he went to a military school.
When the secular military staff visited his family at home to vet him, the sect brother told him that his mom should not wear her headscarf and they should hide any religious books etc.
He got accepted to the school. He became an officer in the army. The sect also told him to marry a secular woman, not pray, etc, that it's not a sin for him because he does it for the greater good. Encouraged him to drink alcohol to fit on.
I don't know where he is now, might get arrested as well.
>>81295980
this was around 2007 btw
MORE: Turkish media report that pro-coup elements of the military have taken over a Frigate at Gölcük naval base. (3 mins ago)
>>81295730
That's because >>81286645
>>81295730
>Have tank
>Fight with fists.
why not just drive the tank?
>>81296202
because oh wonder. us military shutdown protocol made it unusable
>>81296234
But isn't that superior altay roach tank of superior design and technology?
>>81295780
Gulen denies everything and condemns them, will be difficult to prove that he was involved.
>>81295090
that 3rd pic confirmed to be fake.
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/754201212271095808
>>81296300
sure sure, the best tech you can buy from america. it even has wifi and a coffee cup holder
>>81295730
This is my main subject of nightmares, despite being in good momentum you see all of your comrades cower out and its inevitable that shits about to get fucked.
Why they didn't go harder on the civilians supporting Erdogan is beyond me. They want to fuck you up or are legitimately dumb as duck.
>>81286326
few of the troops had the heart to kill civilians
basically mobs were used as human shields to obstruct army. Still laughable that they didnt just immediately capture erdogan.
>>81296381
that discredits the whole thing then
I saw where Turks were with Islam the night they could keep quiet for a minute after PAris massacre and where screaming "allah akbar" during the "minute of silence."
Football has become nigger sport at this point and is part of the bread and circuses, when that night I realized the ides of any "secular" turks was gone and it's just a matter of who nukes who first.
so another thing i don't understand.
HOW was a small group of the military able to shut down social media sites?
>>81296545
he was on vacation in Marmaris, jets bombed his location but he left just before hand
>>81296381
the whole post is fake, the guy is just shilling. Someone even posted a video in this thread of him "being thrown into the bosphorus", it looks like he's being put in the trunk of a car.
Which you could tell from the pic anyway, considering the angles indicate pretty clearly that they're standing in the middle of the fucking bridge and not throwing him over the side.
He's just some tween who wants attention
>>81296479
>Why they didn't go harder on the civilians supporting Erdogan
thank the Jews for giving everyone a phone with a camera. They should have cut off all wifi and TV and just clean house.
Desu don't think most of them realized they were dead if they lost.
Shit man, I'm in the military in Alexandropolis (12th Infantry Division).
I'll try to learn more about the Turkish officers who landed here.
>>81296702
servers, or insider?
I hope after this Turkey is never considered European anymore by anyone.
>>81296819
you need to be pretty high up to issue commands of that sort, and it's not just one spot that needs to be shut down (i hope)
>>81296702
Guns are controlled in Turkey.
>>81296730
>jets bombed his location
this is why I think the entire thing was staged. So they had jets to hit his resort, but couldn't get him circling outside Constantinople for 2 hours when every cunt on here was watching him on flightradar24?
>>81296086
link
>>81296855
It's already in the Primary education curriculum in Britain and in Europe.
A friend of mine who works in a primary school has shown me EU branded posters showing Turkey as rightfully a part of Europe, they get material asking the children to argue why Turkey should be part of Europe too.
>>81294834
They will, we sent Ocalan back then, 8 soldiers are insignificant.
>>81296950
https://twitter.com/DailySabah/status/754262036599758848
>>81296889
you sir make too much cense
>this one for posterity
>>81296990
Fuck this fucking world to bits.
>>81286616
Then how were they dropping bombs? Last I checked Cobras couldn't carry bombs, and rockets don't do the massive amounts of damage that we saw.
>>81297167
what damage? have pics?
>>81286452
1. Nope PKK still there
2. Nope Russia still there in Crimea
3. Nope refugees still there in Greece
4. Nope Erdogan the Jihadist is still there in Turkey
5. Yes, westerners still hate Turkey
6. I am sure you'll find plenty of Islamists that agree with you.
>>81297137
Don't worry, you'll be getting re-education camps to fix your "totalitarian" views.
www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/dv/11_revframework_statute_/11_revframework_statute_en.pdf
:^)
>>81295945
>mostly competant military
It's a paper tiger that could only stand up to middle eastern militaries that all use cold war soviet and US hand-me-downs
>>81297167
I live in ankara, there was at least one f16 that dropped bombs on police HQ, it was chased away by loyalist jets afterwards, maybe shot down.
They did not fire missiles but mini guns on it, probably because of safety measures preventing lock,ng on friendly planes.
welp looks like the frigate seized by the pro coup is legit
>>81286616
>No F-16s were on Coup side.
There definitely were. One of the first things that happened was F-16s flying 50 ft over Ankara.
also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgA5wsshJm8
>>81287453
>We just have to wait for him to die, by which time I think that the secularism cemented by Ataturk will be gone.
Actually no.. You know. This era is time of internet. Even myself grown in a religious family and now i left Islam once I could access to internet and read all shits about it. Youth votes are all against Erdogan. That is why Erdogan wants Syrian to be citizen. Islamist movement will desperately need a new votes.
>>81297622
that looks like a car bomb at most.
even then it was pretty fucking weak
>>81297487
so it's exactly what you'd want from them?
there's basically no reason you wouldn't want them in an alliance besides money
>>81296772
The guy they were putting in the trunk looked pretty dead, or at least unconscious.
>>81297778
The ability to place nukes right next to Russia.
>>81292399
>UK
>USA
>"hardly created anything"
>>81297764
the youth turks in europe love erdogan for some reason (even protesting in the night) and talking big that if they have too they will go to turkey to help etc
>>81297764
>implying your votes matter, as he is using this as an excuse to change constiution even more.
also, actually demographics show exact opposite. This is the islamic generation Dr. Pierce predicted thanks to the Jews being on TV killing Pal kids and Israel duping the US into Iraq War for Israel.
It's going to end in a 3rd World War, including civil war on the European continent. people have been predicting this for over 20 years, now here it is.
>>81297952
>talking big that if they have too they will go to turkey to help etc
let's hope these losers do so, but I doubt it, the gibs me dat are to generous here, the 4000 faggots that protested last night in Vienna should all be deported
>>81295980
>>81296032
also this 100%. gulenists are crazy. like if you think erdogan is bad, gulenists literally cry when they hear Gulen's voice.
gulenists were being removed by Erdo in judiciary/press. The west hated Erdo for doing that citing freedom of press/dictatorship, but actually wanted the Gulen shit to remain in power.
Now in august there was going to be a military assembly and all these pro-gulenist (pro-US) troops were going to be kicked out. So they had a last ditch attempt - hence the reason for the ill-preparedness of the coup
>>81297952
because they are fucking Turks, not Europeans who shoulld be sent there to die and get their fucking wish.
Europe is so, so fucked.
>>81296802
DO IT BASED KOSTAS
>>81293624
I like this theory. Reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_countercoup_of_1909
I am seeing so many parallels between Abdulhamit's reign and Erdogan's. So if that's true, the Third Army - Young Turk army which Mustafa Kemal was a part of - is a good analogy for the Kemalist army you've described.
>>81296548
I'm an Erdomissile now
>>81298304
>pro-gulenist (pro-US
why would a pro-islamic group be pro ZOG? The world is getting too complicated for me these days, need to move off into the mountains off the grid.
>>81284542
wrong , fetullah gulen LIVES in america . it is known that HE has STRONG TIES WITH ISRAEL AND AMERICA.
>>81296889
>but couldn't get him circling outside Constantinople for 2 hours when every cunt on here was watching him
he had supporting jets behind him to take care of any jet that would want to kill him
>>81298517
wut? where did I claim otherwise?
>>81298490
there are pro-zog muslims, for example sauid.s
>>81293624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v9Np4mh3tc
>>81298517
Dutch turk detected look out people he might go crazy
>>81295980
I can confirm this sect is real. One of my coworkers was tied to a Gülen school which they call "Lichthäuser" in Germany.
He was trying too hard to fit in and everybody thought he was a little strange.
One day I met him in the city with two of his buddies and they were talking batshit crazy stuff like God is personally talking to you and I can't really recall the rest of it because it was total brainwashed bullshit.
I never talked to him ever since. Later he got fired. This was around 2008
>>81298528
there's more. He was way too exposed at the airport for a man supposedly wanted dead...usually I would say this is "tin foil hat," but even CNN and Sky said that many are suggesting Erdogan knew was coming and planned it to go this way so he could crack down and purge the army.
>>81292399
We created the huge country of Canada, Lodovico.
It would take 35 Italys to equal Canada.
>It was Gulen!
>It was Obama!
I guess some people are too retarded to just believe it was the military.
>>81298619
but the al-sauds themselves are hookers, the wahabbis (many of whom want them dead) aren't pro-Zog.
The Saudis are pro-Jew/USA so long as it keeps paying for their White harems, villas in Paris, and mansions in Monaco.
Don't see what motivation a group of Turks would have.
>>81298783
it's real. i had doubts before the 8 officers ran away to greece to seek asylum.
if you read our history, it's not the first time the West (read: ZOG) is trying to take over.
Read about gladio
>>81298870
It was the lizard people, can confirm.
>>81298800
>that horrible city
Kill yourself
>>81296802
please respond
>>81298870
this time, you can include CNN and Sky in your list of "retards." I watched both stations say that it was highly possible it was planned out by Erdogan this way to consolidate power.
>>81288315
the Turkish deep state does indeed exist
it was built (upon Kemalist foundations) by the US as part of Operation Gladio
its sole purpose is to combat Russian influence, whether in peacetime, war, or outright state of occupation
needless to say, they're punching at shadows right now. Putin can literally support EVERY enemy of Turkey, internal or external, and there are many
>>81292427
>K. It's like watching children squabble.
LOL ,DENK is winning strategically . if you watch politiek24 there were journalist saying they are a treath bc of the voters they can get , they are good organized and are playing there cards at crucial moments .
so dont laugh yet , little white pedophile :)
Turkish PM is this guy covering for Erdogan the Islamist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0
Nostalgia for Comical Ali "fans".
>>81299068
dont be delusional faggot hahaha
>>81292138
what the fuck did NZ do ever
>>81298912
I don't know gulen's motivaqtions as i'm not familiar with them. just know some people who are involved in the Hizmet.
I think gulen is ZOG because he fucking lives in the US in a huge ass manions bought on CIA money, and every time our government wants him given to us, they are refused.
>>81299011
Ah, so now the list is:
>Obama!
>Gulen!
>False Flag!
>Lizards!
There's a very simple explanation here: a portion of the military thought it could stop Erdogan from seizing more power, and they failed.
Cui Bono isn't an argument without evidence.
>>81299271
except it's literally Gülen
>>81298941
I don't doubt some officers were involved, and that it was dangled as a loyalty test. One of the Roman emperors...I think it was Nero, was known for this sort of thing.
After his death, people refused to celebrate until his body was paraded through the streets because they were certain he had faked his own death to see who would celebrate. Erdogan is the same cort of personality disorder.
What sort of a narcissist do you need to be to actually call Merkel and demand some 3rd rate German comic be charged for insulting you?
>>81299260
Is is a charismatic Sufi cult?
Do they have absolute loyalty to Gulen?
>>81297952
>the youth turks in europe love erdogan for some reason (even protesting in the night) and talking big that if they have too they will go to turkey to help etc
It is because you racist scums make them polarise and they need some hero figure to adore like Eroğan. But they have no idea and also dont care how this country is fucked up since they dont live here.
>>81298123
>demographics
Dont confuse your north African shitskins with our roaches.
updates on the frigate that was captured?
weird timing on doing that, the rest of the plot has failed and all
>>81299383
He literally claims he speaks to Mohammed in his dreams and people cry when he talks
it's weird as fuck
>>81299444
Escape on a boat, next best thing if you can't make it to a choppa/plane
>>81299383
Yes to both. It's a different sect than Sufism though.
>>81299444
>not escaping in style
how bad at coups are you?
>>81299335
Beyond rantings by Erdogan, who is known to think Gulen is behind every curtain, what evidence is there for the assertion?
And it had better be damn good to overcome the stark, obvious explanation.
>>81299271
you're not very smart: cui bono? Erdogan. He's the winner. I'm not suggesting entire thing was staged. I'm suggesting it was dangled by one memeber of the top command asa loyalty test under Erdogan's orders to see who would take the bait do they could be purged, which is what CNN, BBC, and SKy have suggested (for them to point it out, must be pretty obvious. CNN Turk saved his ass, if they had refused to broadcast his speech on iphone, it may not have worked.
>>81299405
turkbro fucking telling it like it is
>>81299383
he is very charismatic. there are vids of him, people crying and shit.
he has a very strong command of the turkish language too, like it sounds like he's some ottoman statesmen. in ottoman times our language wasn't as shit as it is now.
>>81286702
More over, Erdogan now pretends that it actually were the "coupist" that shot it down agains the goverment will, and Turkey just covered it up since it would be shameful to admit it.
And now the same pilot, is on the coup side and likely be either arrested or killed.
>>81299475
Sounds like a traditional esoteric Sufi/Shiite cult where the Imam is considered a special representative of God or possessing some attribute of God, and commands the absolute loyalty of his adherents because of it
>>81299543
The person behind this (the guy in the OP pic) is a general that came to power after Gülen prosecutors jailed secular air force commanders.
do you need more evidence?
>>81299383
yes absolute loyalty. And it's not really Sufi.
They have ranks similar to scientology.
the smallest cells are regular people living in their student dorms, housewives meeting once a week for a religious reading etc.
there are abi's (big brothers) and abla's (big sisters) who are responsible for each region each student flat etc.
Its a tiered system. And the "grand brothers" are the men around F.Gülen.
They use the base to collect money/support.
Members are encouraged ( pretty much pressured into) buying his books, buying their newspapers, giving money to their charities etc.
Also they used to have a vast network of charter schools and tutoring schools(preparing students for exams) and the students there were told by their "big brother" what they should study. " you should be a teacher, you should go to police school, you should go to military school"...
thats how they build their network in the state.
They started doing that about 30 years ago.
>>81299444
Protip: It hasn't.
>>81284542
No, I really doubt this.
Erdogan he's the most extreme of all, gulen is just a front - vote for me or you will get this guy kinda thing.
Captured soldiers were beaten by bearded guys and beheaded, incited by erdogan.
Is the same when erdogan claimed Kurds blow up a Kurdish demo in Ankara - was done by erdogan to crack on Kurds, now is to show him being attacked by more radical muslims, instead of seculars.
Try harder.
So is this shit over or is the roach capital still couped?
>>81297525
That's all so wrong, nothing makes sense. Who gave the orders for the jets to take down coup force?
This shit is smelling way to bad.
>>81298123
>It's going to end in a 3rd World War, including a civil war on the European continent. people have been predicting this for over 20 years, now here it is.
No doubt about that
>>81299405
>you racist scums
if you are serious, this is where you lose all fucking credibility. Muslims in Europe are treated a fuck of a lot better than poor christians are in Islamic nations...look at Turkey, for fuck sake, and they are native to that nation.
Imagine a group who came and set up shop in saudi and demanded gibs me and for the state to build churches? And were 70% of the prison population?
How long would you put it up with it? You purged your Christians in the 50s and make the Patriarch of Constantinople live like a nigger.
Don't talk about "racism" like a BLM niggers to make up for your peoples fucking failures.
>>81299560
Great explanation. Now the tough part.
How do you know? Do you have secret Turkish military contacts any reporter in Turkey would be dying to have right now.
>>81299671
No.
No that's not good enough. I want to be exceptionally clear. If the guy behind the coup ran in circles screaming about how much he liked Gulen, it *still* wouldn't mean Gulen had anything to do with it Maybe Gulen might like it, but it's not a chain of evidence.
>>81299887
certainly looks like it lad
>>81300031
It's on the verge of ending.
>>81299475
>>81299512
>>81299609
>>81299772
Thanks for the insight lads
The closest Western analogy I can think of is if Opus Dei activated their members to launch a coup (which would be a great thing mind you).
>>81300031
Why do you think Erdogan and all of his followers and all the western media are blowing shit out of their arse from Istanbul?
right after erdogans plane landed you could see on flight radar that the tanks moved to the same location the plane parked.
proof that erdogan initiated the coup
>>81284542
>>12 people attacked the hotel that Erdoğan stayed in
So, why did they fail? Why did they bomb the parliament and not the fucking hotel?
>>81300154
>media blackout in capitol city
Okay
>>81300141
>How do you know?
I'm giving the most reasonable explanation for all the inconsistencies. There was a reason the top military brass in Turkey didn't commit, and it was all Brigaders at highest.
Other coups in Turkey involve the entire military just removing the government. This was different, very different. If even the networks are pointing it out, something is clearly wrong.
>>81300271
Or that some in the Army were loyal to Erdogan and obeyed orders to protect him.
>>81300306
He was already gone
>>81300421
would you trust someone switching sides that easily? i wouldn't if i wasn't sure
>>81298800
And by created I assume you mean ran off the indigenous population and set up shop.
>>81300358
so they're going to win? I can't buy that
>>81298304
>>81295980
This is bullshit, i also went to a dershane and they would never, EVER tell you to stop praying you lying pieces of shit. That was literally what was discussed every wednesday at our sohbet, how important prayer was. Gtfo with your anti-hizmet shilling
>>81300600
The entire military wasn't part of the coup, you kraut fuck. Jesus fuck people can't be this dumb.
The armoured convoy had been moving from outside Istanbul, from a garrison close. The Cobra gunship which got shot down was on the side of the Rebels, and many, if not all of the F-16's are Loyalists.
>>81300421
I still cannot reconcile the 2 hours circling just below Constantinople. You can bet they have the best training they can buy from ZOG.
Look at Bush during 9/11. Even with fighter escorts, they kept him moving across the country, didn't circle in a predictable pattern for literally 2 hours.
If you had one or two pilots from the airforce ready to even try to confront him, if we on here knew where he was, they did not?
Were it real, they'd have kept him moving, and surely not in a fucking gulfstream. This is the 2nd biggest military in NATO? Not adding up.
>>81300625
They're not. But Erdogan and whatever remains of his government won't be ruling from the capitol.
>>81300485
Well no idea when they got there, but that should have been the first place to strike. Next should have been capturing Yildirim.
>>81300233
> Opus Dei
if the Catholics coup, it will be under a false flag, just like in Poland with Solidarnosc or in Spain with Franco
>tfw I thought this was a full-blown legit Kemalist coup at first
>>81300861
So it's only a matter of time
It was my point that the coup was doomed so why join so late
>>81300790
lel you were obviously not important enough to be a military spy
>>81284542
>So basically islamoshits vs islamoshits. Welcome to new fucking turkey
Erdoscum has had years to purge Kemalists from military. Secularism is dead ideology at this point in Turkey. Strange times when Turkish military will try to do Islamist coup.
>>81300790
my god, seeing that flag and knowing you are muslim, I wish i could drag you out of Europe myself.
>>81300810
The situations wasn't clear, going anywhere but Istanbul was dangerous for him and the best chance he had of resisting a coup was from Istanbul since its his home town and largest bastion of support. Especially if he knew that most of the air force was loyal. So they probably waited for loyal ground units to ensure the safety of Istanbul airport before the plane landed.
>>81300991
gtfo shill
>>81301243
>>81301243
>>81301243
>>81301243
new thread
>>81298782
>Gülen school
WEW hans I just skimmed through this guy's wikipedia page and he could not be a more overt vessel for the deep state:
>Gülen put Nursi's ideas into practice when he was transferred to a mosque in Izmir in 1966... and supported market-friendly policies... [Gulen supporters] were largely pro-Western...(mainly U.S.) influence...and U.S. aid, which had primed the pump of economic growth
>it is believed that many Gülenists hold positions of power in Turkey's police forces and judiciary...Gülen also has sympathizers in the Turkish parliament and that his movement controls: Zaman newspaper, the private Bank Asya bank, the Samanyolu TV television station, and the Turkish Confederation of Businessmen and Industrialists (TUSKON).
And the beheaded cherry on top:
>Gülen criticized the Turkish-led Gaza flotilla for trying to deliver aid without Israel's consent. He spoke of watching the news coverage of the deadly confrontation between Israeli commandos and multinational aid group members as its flotilla approached Israel's sea blockade of Gaza.
Is it possible that Edrogan really ******Did nothing Wrong****?
>>81301156
That much I can buy, but how much command and control could they have from a gulfstream? They had no picture of the battlefield, they don't know who is loyal and who isn't.
They put out a few fake stories about seeking asylum, which makes sense. Is it possible that we had a better view of radar than the rebels in the airforce?
Maybe, I don't know. But even the commentators and very Jewish CNN were smirking and saying "..if this was a real coup" and that short-haired dyke with the botox was was also implying...I don't know who's Jewing who anymore.
If it wasn't planned, the Turks are fucking incompetent throughout the military.
>>81300969
There won't be a Turkey by the time this is over.
>>81284542
his mouth looks like the crescent moon on his hat,but upside down
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