Didn't see any Turks in comment, wanted to clear things up.
Erdogan called everyone out to the streets even though the army warned not to. Azans stating that this is a holy war, second independence war, Islam should be defended have been recited.
Army is very violent in Ankara. Many civilians have been shot (99% Erdogan supporters). Parliament was still under bombardment until 20 minutes ago (couldn't get any info since). Army had captured many important television channels but not all.
Istanbul is a little less violent. Bridges and Ataturk Airport is still under army control. Soldiers do not hesitate to drive over a couple persons who stand in front of tanks (to protest).
Parliament and police stations have been under heavy fire by airforce, mainly in Ankara by helicopters. Some have been shot down. Many soldiers were caught/surrendered in Istanbul.
The coup is mainly by the Air Force and Gendarmarie. Some land forces are strongly against it while many are inbetween. The fight until now has been between the police and coup, therefore small in size. If the land forces choose Erdogan's side it may get ugly, up to a full scale war for a short while. If some of them choose the coup's side, it will most likely succeed in several hours.
I will try to keep this thread up to date. It is not over yet.
Pic related, Parliament.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vObt9TWhEI
People shot live
>>81257699
How much support do the military have?
How much of the military is behind it?
>>81257699
Thanks for the update, roachoco, hope everything is ok where you are.
>>81258099
not even the people or the military/police know the answer to this question
the situation is THAT fluid
>>81257699
I wonder if this will succeed. I have my doubts that it will. It seems like there are enough people now who want an Islamic state to support Erdogan.
Fuck, how did Ataturk manage to secularize the country? I just can't even imagine doing that today.
>>81257699
FIRST FOR FOREST FIRES
>>81257699
Stupid fucks the army has the guns Erdogan for now has the people if the army decides to go all out slaugther mode things could get. Very very ugly.
Soldiers have surrendered the bridge to police.Highly unlikely it will succeed as sunrise means thousands of more Erdogan supporters
>>81258099
I'd say they have around 35-40% of public's support.
Cannot say anything about their power. They are not flying too many aircrafts but several of them have been touring/bombarding Istanbul and Ankara for 6 hours. If that means they have full grip on airspace, that's huge. Their landforces are limited and have lost tanks in Istanbul. Most of army is nowhere near the field right now, this day is either the end or the beginning.
>>81257699
coup will succeed.
>>81257699
Roach, what are your thoughts on a civil war. Neither side wins in the next 48 hours, what then?
Were any of the media killed?
>>81257699
What side do you support?
>>81258956
KEK wills it
>>81257699
demekki bu is hala bitmedi degil mi?
these idiots think it's all over cause CNN Turk keeps looping the same 10 second clips over and over
Is the populace armed enough to make a difference one way or the other?
>>81258784
>Stupid fucks the army has the guns Erdogan for now has the people if the army decides to go all out slaugther mode things could get. Very very ugly.
The fact that some of them were killing civilians in Ankara but we see soldiers and tanks refusing to fire and being swarmed by mobs in Istanbul is a little odd.
>>81258439
I am fine, sonic booms have ruined my sleep once or twice but all good apart from that. Thank you
>>81258634
He couldn't secularize people, he secularized the state. That's why we're here. Not that it's his fault.
>>81259010
Turkey has 5 million Syrians, I bet 100,000 of them are ISIS terrorists/supporters. If a civil war happens hell will break loose and the country will implode. Worse than Syria imho.
>>81257699
Why didn't support for the coup spread among the military more quickly? Is it because Erdogan was able to broadcast his message before television was shut down?
>>81259427
I am not sure what this could bring, but seeing the coup's message live on TV made me hopeful.
>>81259754
Currently coup has a huge disadvantage in that regards, but as I said, most of the army is not mobilized at all. It will never reach 100%, I know that but it is nowhere near it.
What is the situation in Ankara? Also, are any other cities being occupied without media attention?
>>81257699
VERY good Turkey coup thread under /gif/
>>>/gif/8912476
WARNING *VERY* GRAPHIC
>>81257699
Anyone else think this is now a fight for the very soul of Turkey now. If Erdogan wins there will be purges and he will basically consolidate all the power neuter the military and go full on Islamist dictator using this as an excuse. At this point I feel the coup has to succeed because we are going to be looking at a very different turkey in about 48 hours either way.
>>81260749
>WARNING *VERY* GRAPHIC
Explain.
>>81257699
What percentage of the Turkish armed forces do you think supports the coup, and what percentage is currently actively fighting to bring it about?
>>81257699
Can't stay up much longer. Fight with the coup military, turks. Out on the streets with you and show the rest of the military that you are for the cuop guys. Make my day by removing the bastard erdogan.
>>81261101
As in the webm's contain graphic content. Are you retarded? Just go to the thread and click a few.
>>81261101
dudes full of giant ass bullet holes and squashed up by tanks n shit
>>81257699
Media is showing the soldiers on the bridge giving up and they are calling it a fail.
So what happens now? The military leaves all this heavy equipment and tanks etc, the civilians and terrorists take the equipment and a war breaks out against the police? The rebels join in and civil war starts?
>>81260451
Is Erdogan likely to use Obama's vocal support of his government and its legitimacy? Or is Turkish opinion of Obama so low that its meaningless?
>>81259817
what do you mean?
>>81261588
propaganda.
>>81261688
Why the disparity? Doesn't exactly bode well if the military isn't even on the same page.
>>81258634
You would probably enjoy a book or two about that subject. Why don't you go to amazon and see what is available. Good day to you sir.
>>81261298
No webm support on my tablet, famalamadingdong
>>81261588
>(((CNN)))
Oy vey goyim, we were attacked, and one of our pet roaches was killed. Siiike, Erdogan has actually won, secularists BTFO, only minor disturbances in the capital, nothing to see here
>>81260749
>that one fucker that got smashed by the tank
>>81260434
No, tv was barely shot down. Like for 1 hour at most. This was a huge reason coup has failed so far. Erdogan has been fighting the army for years. He has "cleared" it, prisoned many (the Ergenekon and Balyoz cases) and put his man to important positions. That is why it has been so small. The navy seems pro-coup so far but nothing has been done so far.
>>81260550
Ankara is calmer but still fights are going on. Mugla is also a big conflict zone, especially Marmaris.
>>81260835
I agree but we cannot do anything for it. The army simply has told people to stay away and you'll be lynched in a minute if you gather people to support it. There are 400,000 cops in Turkey (the number was 60,000 before Erdogan) who are his loyal dogs.
>>81261588
I don't think a civil war will happen. If coup fails, Erdogan gains all the sympathy, becomes the democracy hero and advances to presidency. There were many important things about him recently, all those will be forgotten. The syrian refugee issue, him not being a uni graduate thing, PKK thing... All forgotten
>>81257699
So what are the majority of the army waiting for? I would imagine they're mostly mobilized by now and no doubt orders have gone out for action to be taken.
>>81261686
Meaningless.
>>81262600
>There are 400,000 cops in Turkey (the number was 60,000 before Erdogan) who are his loyal dogs.
whew that's a large police state for the size of the country.
>>81262600
400,000 cops? That doesn't sound right...
Why don't the Kurds get into the fight? Don't they hate the government so much?
>between the police and coup
the military here are being way to reluctant/self-restrained
if the cops are opposing you, you go unhinged and mow them the fuck down. If they're surrounding themselves with civilians, welp, you BTFO them too
this coup is so pansy fuck
>>81262927
That's why the MILITARY is out there, to fight for that group of people.
>>81263032
>kill a gorillion citizens
>suddenly entire country thinks you're the bad guys
You don't get these games do you leaf
>>81262600
>There are 400,000 cops in Turkey
>>81257699
i thought the airport has been firmly in government control since before erdogan landed?
>>81258634
>Fuck, how did Ataturk manage to secularize the country?
By force.
He won the war of Independence, when Turkey was occupied, by Greeks, British, French, Italians, Armenians and Kurds. His reputation was Julius Caesar like.
He also removed kebab prolifically.
Man I don't know what the fuck is going on, I hear the coup failed and then I hear they still have control then I hear that it failed and then I hear they have control
Wtf
>>81262600
A bunch of threads show it over and have the army surrendering who do I trust when there is so much disinformation?
>>81257699
So ISIS is about to get a whole lot bigger huh?
>>81261475
i seen worst..
>>81263189
nobody can oppose you if they are all dead
It's time to overthrow the Erdoroach.
Come on Turkey, give us some impressive cinematics.
>>81263467
Two cities, one surrendered, one under heavy fire.
Navy and Air Force are Pro-coup
>>81263189
>if you kill them you lose
>>81262600
He has literally built a state based upon police idiots and brown peasants.
>>81259754
Turks aren't Americans. Historically, they just went along with it when leaders told them to zip it.
This coup needs to succeed.
Pic related. Islamic fundamentalists using turkish flag as prayer mats say it all. It's religion vs secularism right now. Fuck erdogan for using citizens as cannon fodder.
>>81263493
>Rule over a graveyard
>>81263697
>If you have citizens to rule over, you lose
>>81263467
dont you know wtf is propaganda? stupid burger
AR-15 lol
>>81257699
>Soldiers do not hesitate to drive over a couple persons who stand in front of tanks
Fucking good!
From what we've been seeing they were being entirely passive and surrendering. I hope now that they got a taste of it they'll just murder every single pro-Erdogan fuck that so much as peeks his head out the window. Let's. Go. Army.
Sic semper blatte
>>81262600
Can you translate/confirm the authenticity of this tweet?
>>81258459
well, 4chan never backs down from making uneducated assumptions: >>81258946
LAST MINUTE
The army has just made an official announcement on TSK's official website that they're fighting those who resist and told the civilians to stay inside & be safe. It has been publicized half an hour ago and NOT A SINGLE tv channel mentioned it.
LAST MINUTE
>>81263493
If you kill their enemies they win you retard. what part of that dont you udnerstand?
I pray they succeed. Whats the chance
>>81263790
>implying any group of citizens would rebel to the last
At most maybe 10% would be killed they sing a very different tune when the fear of being shot appears.
>>81263467
You don't have the best comprehension skills, do you?
>>81264000
now we know who is controlling media
we shall not believe what they say
>>81264053
it's like 5%
95% of Erdogan becoming the sultan
>>81264000
Godspeed to the army. Rational secularism is counting on you?
>>81264053
probably like 30% be higher if the retards in Istanbul didn't give up like bitches
Any live stream? that's not playing the same footage over and over
>>81262600
>The army simply has told people to stay away and you'll be lynched in a minute if you gather people to support it.
You could use cellphones and the internet to do it. Plenty of people especially in Istanbul want to remove Erdogan as well.
>>81264053
50%
it can happen, but i might not happen
I think I understand the idea of asking the people to go out into the streets to protest. The military having the coupe, they were not interested in hurting civilians, Erdogan knew this. So by asking the people to rally behind him and flood the street, the military was put into a difficult position.
From what I am seeing now, with the military surrendering and laying down arms, possibly against orders. The civilians are picking up the arms and where it goes from there, no one can be sure but I believe it won't be good for anyone in the long run.
Is it possible that the government used civilians as human shields against the military coupe?
>>81264000
Those trips.
TA is going full freedom.
>>81264194
>Plenty of people especially in Istanbul want to remove Erdogan
>they are literally beating soldiers to death as we speak
>>81263935
It's legit
>>81263189
They ordered people to stay in. They disobeyed. They're fair game now.
Had they done this from the start, this would've never gotten out of hand.
>>81264000
is it tsk.tr? it completely stopped loading here, gives a blank
>>81264056
>10% fight and die
>Another 70% flee for fear of being next on the chopping board
>all the smarties leave for Yurop
>rule over a failed state with no GDP, citizenry
>>81264000
Repeating digits and flag confirm. If they make it they'll all be heroes in my book.
>>81264307
>plenty
>>81264000
>Be Turk
>Get strafed
Pro-coup faction 'still fighting'
Posted at 00:27
Reuters is now reporting it has received an emailed statement from a pro-coup faction of the military saying it is "determinedly still fighting".
>>81264399
>thinking they can just leave the country
haha Germany isn't letting that happen
>>81264239
It's obvious that Erdogan was using them as human shields. This is the first time he's been fine with protests. Any other time he would have had them gunned down.
>>81264239
>it won't be good for anyone in the long run.
CNN Turk/Fox Turk are literally sucking on Erdogan's cock as we speak
He will become the sultan he planned to be
>>81264000
COUP STILL ON
DON'T TRUST MEDIA INCLUDING CNN OR ANY AMERICAN BROADCASTERS
>>81264239
>Is it possible that the government used civilians as human shields against the military coupe?
Duh
>>81264441
That's some crazy shit though
Something that would never happen in the west
This is some crazy shit
>>81263935
>>81264000
ninja'd
>>81263473
Don't trust anyone fully, but don't trust those who say it's over. No soldier attempts such a hopeless thing. It's not that simple & not over.
>>81262927
Kurds provide the liberal fag section of our country. "Against coup at all costs" cucks. Many of them are PKK supporters, though. I don't know why they have been so silent. Maybe scared, because no one will give a shit if the army just steam rolls the civilian supporters.
>>81264239
>Is it possible that the government used civilians as human shields against the military coupe?
You fucking think, leaf? Nah, he a good boy. He dindu nuffin. He just wanted them to go out for a nice walk.
>>81264640
They weren't even aiming at civilians there were military police firing rockets in the background at the helicopter and they returned fire at them.
>be turk
>get shot
>>81264239
>Is it possible that the government used civilians as human shields against the military coupe?
Is the pope Catholic?
>>81264307
What part of "THE MILITARY ORDERED THE POPULATION TO STAY INSIDE" do you not get? People supporting them will naturally follow their orders.
>>81258099
It's complicated because Erdogan has put his own men in power of a lot of the military, and the secularists have been kicked out / retired.
>>81264341
What percent of the military do you think is actively participating in the coup?
we need a periscope on ankar
>>81264399
Smart people support the coup you tool. It's genetic defectives supporting Erdogan.
Is it really true about the TSK joining in? Should poll mobilize for a re-happening?
>>81263032
coups benefit from the support of popular uprisings you insipid shit
remember Iraq? The US tried to win the hearts and minds of the people... well they failed.
>>81257699
What's the main difference between the military and Erdogan? Why did the coup happen?
It's 7:35 am, jets started flying again in Ankara
>>81264897
>retard doesn't follow the conversation
I'm talking hypothetically, if the military started slaughtering citizens
>>81264719
>Many of them are PKK supporters, though
And ? Is that a bad thing ?
As far as things go PKK is fighting ISIS while Turkey supports them and chants "Allahu Akbar" in the streets
>>81264640
Why's that?
Helicopter de-Islamified that street pretty well
>>81264719
Oh I thought they were enemies of Islam.
>>81265077
So I assume that CNN shilling about Coup being over was a false flag?
>>81265012
Secularism (Army) vs Theocracy (Erodgan)
>>81265012
Knowing Turkey and from snippets in this thread, it's about the role of religion in the Turkish state.
Erdogan is all about making it a very muslim country, the military is oldschool Ataturk secularist from what I gather, and it makes a lot of sense.
>>81265104
>As far as things go PKK is fighting ISIS while Turkey supports them and chants "Allahu Akbar" in the streets
lmao could you be any more bluepilled?
Which side do you Turks favor?
>>81265012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan#Controversies
Turk-bro, are you safe?
>>81265116
how has that guy not been assasinated yet?
>>81265202
Did i say anything incorrect ?
>>81264719
>No soldier attempts such a hopeless thing. It's not that simple & not over.
Unless this was backed by the CIA who said that Erdogan would not retaliate, the coup forces expecting an easy victory.
>>81265187
yeah, TSK just made an announcement so it ain't over yet.
the tv channels keep showing the same footage of soldiers surrendering in Istanbul but that's all
>>81257699
START AN INSURGENCY
GATHER EVERYONE FROM THE VILLAGES TO SUPPORT THE BRAVE COUP MILITARY
GATHER THE MEN
CONSCRIPT THEM
GO
NOW!
>>81265012
>Erdogan
>loves Islam
>president of the ISIS fanclub
>Military
>hates Islam
>remove kebab
>>81264719
Don't some Turkish Kurds want an independent Kurdistan? Would this not be an ideal way to achieve such a thing, if they were to team up with the coup?
Are lots of Muslims dying? That's all I want to see.
>>81265284
Yes, PKK isn't fighting ISIS and Turkey isn't supporting it.
Literally everything you said is wrong.
>>81265100
The smart people would never leave because they trust the military.
>>81264640
said the american
>>81265275
Don't want to make a martyr until he's irrelevant.
>>81265389
There is a long history of Kurds "betraying" Turks and siding with its ennemies to overthrow them.
It has failed every. single. time.
So i'd say the army is better off without Kurds
>>81265461
damn you sure told him
>don't want Erdogan
>don't want military coup
what do?
>>81265275
I literally though the exact same thing. KEK.
>>81265439
Almost took the bait Mehmet
I remember a few months ago a Turk on here told me coup would probably happen if Erdogan failed in Syria. Based.
Remove islamists from the premises
>>81257699
Godspeed Erkan, or whatever your name is.
Were all praying for your comfyness in this time of great happenings.
>>81265364
THIS THIS
any gay bottoms in Istanbul right now?
>>81265116
as a very liberal person, i totally agree with that pic. many people think that supporting islam is liberal, but islam is the least liberal ideology ever. they are directly opposed to all liberal values.
>>81257699
>be roach
>spam threads daily about dead Americans
>get shot
>>81265575
>Erdogan
Certain hatestain of the world, wars to come, eliminating everything that is worth living for
>military coup
Uncertainty.
>>81265575
Support military. They have less staying power than Erdogan.
>>81257699
sorry turk
things will get better probably
t. greek
>>81258634
It won't succeed. It seems like A conspiracy is behind the whole damn thing. I refuse to believe that the Turkish military is incapable of a proper coup. They did it succesfuly twice already and they wouldn't have risked a botched attempt and civilian lives if they didn't have the means to pull through a third time.
>>81265575
Wait until the winner emerges I guess
>>81265575
go cuck a western europoor country
>>81265575
Take a seat and watch.
>>81265575
Emigrate to Germanistan and enjoy welfare.
>>81265575
shitpost on a singaporean finger puppet theater forum until the happening is over
>>81265275
He has been living under HEAVY surveillance for a good while. Literally bunker-tier living accommodations with security 24/7. He'd get Fortuyn'd right quick if that weren't the case.
>>81265667
>istanbul
just step out of your house and ask a random guy
3/10 guys will probably say yes
>be soldier
>get told to shoot civilians
>don't shoot
>get shot by army for being a traitor
>or get captured by the civilians I'm told not to shoot then lynched
>>81265104
PKK are communist cucks. They aren't doing anything except killing innocent turks.
Not even an Ahmed, just being honest.
>>81265575
observe, like a gondola
>>81265575
Military is more malleable
>>81265704
It's a religion. Every religion if applied is illiberal.
is there a livestreaming of ankar or what?
>>81258956
Said an increasingly nervous roach for the 6th time this evening.
But truthfuly I do hope it succeeds.
>>81265864
>he would take ISIS over gommie gucks
>>81265864
I genuinely don't get all this shit
I have seen videos of Kurds fighting ISIS, i have seen ISIS supporters insult Kurds and call them american sellouts
I have seen proof providen by Based Russia that Turkey is supporting ISIS
Yet you expect me to believe you ?
>>81265575
Just make sure you stay in the godforsaken natural disaster you call a country. That's enough for all of us.
>Love your country
>Join the military
>Try and remove a guy who is going to lead it from ruin.
>Don't want to kill civilians
>Surrender
>Get your head fucking chopped off.
https://www facebook com/mhmmtytm
JUST fuck my shit up.
>>81265943
seconding this
have there been any rare pokemon out since the coup started and are you training at your gym?
>>81265364
>goes out
>gets shot
>>81265389
Kurds can't achieve that with brute force. All the military power they have is only useful in guerilla warfare. They once claimed a small province this year and got steamrolled by the army. Lost like 4k men I guess.
>>81265273
Yeah mate, pretty safe in my house unless this goes on for a week and I run out of food.
>>81264915
It's been TSK the whole time, just partially. I think more are joining as of now but not sure about my sources.
>>81265206
60% are anti coup while around 45% overall favour Erdogan.
>>81265997
why is that jew's monitor connected by RCA
>>81265012
Turkish military is in charge of defending a secular and democratic state.
Whenever a leader in the past has exceeded their power the military had stepped in and overthrown them. Also the military have a particular disdain for Islam.
Erdogan was prime minister, and president was a ceremonial seat. While pme minister he started giving the presidential position a lot of extra powers.
Erdogan became president and suddenly has all these powers he gave himself.
Erdogan rallies the Islamic fundamentalism by disguising his revival of Islam as "religious freedom"
He realizes military Wil have a coup so quickly arrests and replaces military leaders.
Last night a large enough faction still opposed to Islamic rule and Erdogan managed to enact a half passed plan to take power away from Erdogan.
Could be a false flag from Erdogan though to give himself even more control.
Pro coup forces mostly winning in ankara but anti coup forces mostly winning in istanbul.
Military urging people to stay inside and if they did this would be over.
King roach Erdogan claims he is willing to die as he flies away from the country and urges radical Islam nutjob followers to fight the military.
Military do not want to kill civilians and so are overwhelmed in some places.
Coup still going on with both sides claiming victory in the hopes the other side will just give up.
Coup needs to succeed or turkey turns into iran.
>>81257699
I'm so fucking pissed. All of the news outlets are saying it is over but there is no sign. I hope my family in Turkey is ok. They're suppose to be moving to Canada soon. Fuck.
>>81265862
Literally
>ERDOGAN SUPPORTERS LYNCHING SURRENDERED MILLITARY AND THROWING THEM FROM BRIDGES
https://www.twitter.com/taylieli/status/754172954058121216
>>81265439
>Turkey isn't supporting ISIS
>>81266206
Now that you pointed that out it's going to bother me forever.
It can't be unseen.
>>81266168
So think the Kurds will play it safe and go neutral?
>>81265840
they are all hairy and shit tho
i want some balkanian / greek white cute boys
pretty sissy boys in istanbul hmu :3
>>81257699
>Azans stating that this is a holy war
>inb4 parts of Turkey join ISIS
Turkish military updated their website
Can anyone translate?
>>81266269
>>81266354
fuckin roaches
>>81264358
But they did. Nobody went outside until Erdogan asked them to fight on the streets
Now, guess which kind of people flooded the streets
>>81266249
RAPEFUGEE DETECTED
If they are going to lose the coup. I hope the jets fly to Russia for asylum.
Fuck Erdegon.
>>81265575
FLY FOOL!, FLY!
>>81257699
Where is this Istanbul place? Is it near Constantinople?
>>81266066
PKK have """engaged""" ISIS briefly, but their main target is Turkey, they are separatists who want to create a new Kurdistan.
There are many different groups of Kurds, the ones doing the majority of the fighting are Iraqi Kurds that have nothing to do with the PKK.
The PKK have killed way more Turkish civilians than anything else.
Edrogan is the one with Islamist tendencies, and the one allegedly supporting ISIS. Not all Turks agree with him as should be evident to you by the fucking civil war being fought right now to depose him.
Try actually doing some research for once.
>>81266428
forgot pic
>>81266336
I think the Kurds will wait and seize the right moment to declare their independence
>>81266428
"Turkish Army Forces are continuing to "Coup". We will take down people or any forces who tries to resist to us. Please stay in your home for your Health and safety. Regards to the public - Turkish Army Forces."
>>81266168
Sincerely, thank you for all this information.
>>81266269
Soldiers should just kill all civilians they see. NATO couldn't defend this shit since they surrendered.
>Tfw Islam ruins another country
When will the taint of Islam be removed from the world forever?
>>81266035
I didn't say that, I'm simply saying that there's no real "good guy" between ISIS and the PKK.
>>81265615
PKK is fighting Turks, but it has affiliates across the border in Syria who are fighting ISIS, Al Nusrats, and occasionally Assad. Turkey is covertly funding all the worst Islamists (and buying oil from ISIS), and so is supporting anti-Kurd factions. They also have engaged in heavy bombings of Kurdish positions in Syria, and have sent troops into Iraq to intimidate the Kurds there as part of their war against the PKK. So if anything, Turks love ISIS more than they love Based Kurdistan. By a lot.
>>81266540
thanks
>>81266506
It was re name Istanbul in the early 20th century I think,
Any confirmation if this is Seculars or Extreme Muslims?
>>81264783
>be turk
>get coup'd
Reminder that this is happening in one of the most "advanced" and "westernized" Muslim countries.
>>81266540
>>81266540
alpha as fuk.
>>81266586
Religion tends to do that.
The only reason Christianity isn't dominating like Islam is because it was dragged kicking and screaming in to modern times, so most of it's bullshit isn't shitting up anything now. Islam never got that.
God damn roaches, don't make us have to come over and sort you out again.
>>81258946
Why aren't you fucks fighting with the rebels? Why are only the Islamist brutes out in force?
>>81266455
From what I've seen, people who look more Pakistani than Turkish.
>>81266701
Reminder that a coup could come to one of our westernized, advanced white countries.
Specifically france
>>81257699
Thanks for all the info, Turkey. Stay in your house and stay safe.
Shouldnt Obamary Clinton be all about this? He was in Egypt, right? It's the Turkish Spring
>>81266786
>Islam *is completely incompatible with that
>>81266269
>soldiers surrender before your eyes
>lynch them anyway
why are they such subhuman savages
The narrow dogmatic view of Erdogan will only lead the Turks to demise and if you don't reply to this post right now your mother will be killed tonight.
>>81266512
I know way more than you do about the different Kurdish parties, the heavy division between Iraqi Kurds (Sunni) and Turkish Kurds (mostly Alevi/Shia)
You are saying Turks don't support ISIS this is false, a very large portion support them (as you can hear by the Allahu Akbar chanting)
Yes PKK has killed many turks, i believe Kurds have the right to fight for their future country
>>81266626
I know, i ment "I almost took the bait, mehmet" ^^
The other canadian i believe is stupid tho
>>81266684
Erdogan claims to be secular now but in reality he is like Saudi Arabia in that he is constantly promoting conflict and supporting jihadis. His opponents were moderate muslims who are against terrorism and jihad and want actual peace for once, but he has fired/imprisoned/exile most of them.
>>81266926
If you would support Communists in any way shape or form, even against ISIS, then I suggest you go back to r.eddit my friend.
>>81266786
please tell me the downsides of "christianity domination" and how they're on par with islam
>>81266786
Read the texts. Christianity and Islam are nothing alike. Regardless of the actions of their followers, the core values are completely different. Jesus taught to love even your enemies. Mohammed taught to kill and rape anyone who isnt Muslim
>>81257699
You're a good egg, Turkbro
Stay safe
>>81266906
Hold on a minute... They tried to get rid of Erdogan which means they aren't true Muslims. We must try to be understanding of Islam. This is their way of dealing with soldiers who are intolerant of the word of Allah!
the grey wolves are backing erdogan the army will be on erdogan side
>>81266684
The Army took over TRT to spread their message at the beginning of all this, they said they are Kemalist (secular), and want to protect the country from Islam.
And you know who Erdogan is i guess.
Can anyone explain at the moment what the military is fighting for? I've read the military started the coup in response to keep the country secular, but nothing has been confirmed.
Thoughts?
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754176312370135040
>BREAKING: Tanks leaving Turkish Armed Forces HQ in #Ankara fires at trucks used by police as barricade #Turkey - @agirecudi
Finally
>>81267022
>The other canadian i believe is stupid tho
That's okay, m8, I think anyone who can honestly look at the PKK killing civilians in the name of communism and think it's a great thing, is stupid.
>>81267056
At least they won't send people to blow up buildings here
>>81266104
>Try and remove a guy who is going to lead it from ruin.
>Don't want to kill civilians
Pick only one.
>>81267180
more like brown roaches XDDD
>>81257699
wtf is the reason for the coup?
>>81266684
All muslims I know hate Erdogan
It's just the extremists
>>81266669
yes, it was.
I left the house shortly after the coupe began. I had to go to gun show. I stopped by my parents house after the gun show, to take politics/current events with my father.
He was watching the news, which was airing info about the coupe. He was drinking a cup of coffee in the dim living room. My mother went to sleep hours ago. He had the radio playing low in the background. He was listening to Tony Bennett's "If I Ruled The World," and he looked at me and his expression was more serious than I've ever seen in my life. He told me he felt like this was the beginning of the end of the world. He didn't talk much, just kept watching the news.
I just have the eerie feeling now, anon. Like he was right.
Here's "If I Ruled The World," if anyone wants to experience a weird feeling of sadness/eeriness:
https://youtu.be/yPfZaiO4Kjc
>>81266104
Have you never read a history book
You fail a coup you die.
The soldiers who surrendered are idiots
>>81266887
They don't care about actual freedom but themselves. Erdogan is more profitable to them than the rebels, just like Arab Spring was profitable to them.
>>81267056
Since i'm not American, i can freely support whoever i want without having my mind clouded by heavy anti-russian history books
>le communist = instant bad meme
>>81263438
He won because America wasn't involved kek
>>81266269
>>81265862
>>81266585
>ran over civilians with tank for fun
>civilians get mad and takes revenge
>whyme.jpg
lmao
>>81266462
My family in Turkey are from Mosul Iraq. They had it pretty bad. For starters we're Assyrian. First people targeted. For the ignorant we're also Christian.
My cousin was in his final year of petroleum enginering but had to drop out. They just got their immigration papers accepted by Canada.
The only people raping anything is the US towards Iraq. Keep in mind not one person during 9/11 was Iraqi.
TL;DR of everything that happened: Istanbul is under control of Erdoğan, Ankara is under control of military coup
>>81267268
The USSR didn't do that either, but I think we can both agree the USSR was a terrible regime, and the world is much better off now that it's gone.
>>81267242
Took then long enough, for fuck's sake.
Can they please fucking blow out the rest of these Islamist cucks and storm Istanbul?
>>81262282
what do you recommend?
>>81266230
Sorry, greenest version for easier read.
>Turkish military is in charge of defending a secular and democratic state.
>Whenever a leader in the past has exceeded their power the military had stepped in and overthrown them. Also the military have a particular disdain for Islam.
>Erdogan was prime minister, and president was a ceremonial seat. While pme minister he started giving the presidential position a lot of extra powers.
>Erdogan became president and suddenly has all these powers he gave himself.
>Erdogan rallies the Islamic fundamentalism by disguising his revival of Islam as "religious freedom"
>He realizes military Wil have a coup so quickly arrests and replaces military leaders.
>Last night a large enough faction still opposed to Islamic rule and Erdogan managed to enact a half passed plan to take power away from Erdogan.
>Could be a false flag from Erdogan though to give himself even more control.
>Pro coup forces mostly winning in ankara but anti coup forces mostly winning in istanbul.
>Military urging people to stay inside and if they did this would be over.
>King roach Erdogan claims he is willing to die as he flies away from the country and urges radical Islam nutjob followers to fight the military.
>Military do not want to kill civilians and so are overwhelmed in some places.
>>81267330
To take out all the islamists in power and make the country more secular.
>>81266907
Erdman
>>81267379
>Communism is good lmao XD
Kill yourself.
>>81257699
If the air force is behind it, why didn't they shoot down Erdogen's plane?
>>81266906
their entire schtick is the steam roller from austin powers.
Yeah they'll kill you but only if you're stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA
>>81266249
Hope they're dead.
>>81264640
Mate it's closer to habbening in your country and some in Europe than you think.
>>81267467
They had to give them a warning.
After so many hours, civilians should know to stay away from trouble.
I expect a huge massacre, pro-Erdoshits are going to get rekt now. Even civilians.
>>81267242
Have land forces sided with coup?
>>81267461
Well yeah but USSR was more toxic in that they would actively spread its ideology in any way possible, whereas giving Kurds a piece of Turkey isn't going to do much overall, they'll probably transition to something else later anyway once communism fails for them.
Unconfirmed: Tanks leaving Turkish Armed Forces HQ in Ankara fires at trucks used by police as barricade.
THE COUP LIVES.
>>81266907
Fuck off, cunt.
>>81267383
>these pro-Erdogan muslims extremists dindu nuffin
Leftism is like full blown AIDS infecting the west with massive deficiencies to our defense. Cucks will literally defend muslims in A N Y situation.
>>81267359
It won't be over that easy
>>81266455
They should've exterminated everyone on the street with extreme prejudice.
>>81262848
for a population of 80.000.000, it's fine I guess
Here only in Buenos Aires we have more than 100.000 for a population of 15.000.000
>generals getting arrested left and right
assuming its the police doing the arresting, it basically proves the coup has no traction whatsoever outside of Ankara
>>81267585
see, this is exactly what i'm talking about
you only see things as black or white, you fit the definition of stupid
>>81267643
I hope they fucking do.
These Islamist fucks always ruin everything. Let this be a lesson to the rest of Europe and America.
MUSLIMS
NOT
EVEN
ONCE
Clinton News Network says coup is over and Erdogan has reclaimed control. Is this true?
WHY AREN'T THE KURDS BOMBING RIGHT NOW?
DO THOSE COMMIE BASTARDS NOT REALIZE IF ERDOGAN WINS HE WILL GET CASUS BELLI TO GENOCIDE THEM?
UPDATE: Turkish police have launched operations against the Kuleli military academy in #Istanbul - @agirecudi
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754177469478014976
>>81267461
the USSR was also a global superpower and tried to force communism anywhere they could, idk if PKK has that type of power
>>81267586
Because what if it isn't his plane? Now you've just killed a shit ton of civilians, many of whom could be foreigners. Set the public against you AND piss off every country in the world? Nah...
>>81261957
Different units take different sides. Look at Syria. Some leaders joined the then-FSA. Or look at tank guy at Tianamen.
Some people just want it all to end without bloodshed.
OP, thanks for the thread. I'm feeling a little less ignorant now.
>>81266833
lmao France separated religion from state so long ago. They explicitly reminded all their fucking immigrant kebab that religion will never hold in government. a "coup" will not hit france in the near future.
>>81267784
Read the thread you fucking nigger
>>81267376
Erdogan gave soldiers following orders in coups immunity literally 2 days ago. Only the officers in charge will be charged unless erdogan just totally ignores the new law he just created, which is possible
>>81266585
>murder civilians
>get murdered by civilians
typical murcan jacking off soldiers all day. you're so brainwashed you're unable to see soldiers as shitty humans, you think they are gods.
you claim to be for freedom, but when civilians oppose soldiers who are actively killing civilians on purpose, you instantly side with the soldiers. that's as anti-freedom as you can get.
>>81267784
Not over yet. Still got tanks and military not giving up yet.
>>81267586
#notALLairforce
>>81267359
>yfw your father is a happening-fag shitposting on /pol/ right now
>>81264587
But wasnt CNN turk raided by loyalist soldiers??
>>81267837
I-I was just pretending to be retarded ;_;
>>81257699
>secular military tries to stop islamization of turkey
>fails, erdogan retakes his throne
>turkey radicalizes to the point of being unrecognizable
>fast-forward 10 years
>turkey is decimated in the War Against Islam, aka WW3, along with the other Wahabbi superstates.
it doesn't have to be like this
>>81267858
That's not how that law works.
How is it that the police are able to go toe to toe with military elements? Are they outfitted like a paramilitary force? Also why are they so loyal to Erdogan?
>>81267359
How will the world end? Nothing will happen.
Nothing ever happens - it just goes the fuck on. There is no surprise at the end of this ride. You die, will be forgotten and the world spins on.
Fuck this.
>>81267414
Assyrian Scum.
Greater Kurdistan will come back and the Chaldeans will join in your destruction you are the aboriginals of the middle east
>>81266066
>I have seen proof providen by Based Russia that Turkey is supporting ISIS
The faction supporting Daesh, aka ISIS- the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria- is the army currently rebelling against Erdogan.
Erdogan just signed an agreement with the United States to support the Peshmerga in Syria against Daesh.
The Shia minorities in Turkey came from Russia after WW1, they hate the Kurds.
In terms of literal translations, the Russians and Syrians are fighting the 'Ibliss State'- which is a reference to Yazidi/Kurdish ideological traditions. The fact that the acronym 'ISIS' is bandied about in reference to places where it makes no geographical sense whatsoever tells you that the term is buzzword propaganda.
I am an independent a kurdish franco-american who has been on the ground there.
Do not trust the media.
>>81266807
I won't go against a mob that lynched a soldier (who refused to shoot them) and threw him off the bridge. Fighting is the army's job, I don't own a gun. I will consider it if the army needs me, which is unlikely. Reactionaries are dying just because they are fucking stupid, not because they believe in it oe something. I know that crowd, believe me. Half of them don't know what exactly a coup is and what it aims.
>>81266853
Thank you mate.
>>81266826
Many of those in the streets are Syrians who got here thanks to Erdogan.
>>81267052
In addition, he has said he is against secularism on a tv debate before he became PM.
>>81266249
Pretty sure families are all safe. Nearly all civilian deaths are Erdogan supporters'. I hope you can reach them soon.
>>81267586
Why didn't they bomb his plane when it landed at Istanbul?
>>81267242
>https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754176312370135040
looks like killing those surrendered soldiers energized the base.
>>81267282
you must be a kurd
>>81264239
Why is every single Canuckfag so fucking retarded? Seriously, no one here would care if you just STFU permanently.
>>81267755
I'll give you a chance to actually defend your decision. Why do you think it's good that the PKK is killing civilians? Because they're killing muslim civilians? You know that many of the Kurds are muslims as well, right?
Why do you defend communism? Do you honestly believe a communist state has any chance of succeeding, and won't lead to the starvation and oppression of thousands of people?
You fit the definition of a retarded newfag, supporting the PKK unironically to be edgy. You know we call it "Based Kurdistan" in the same way we call North Korea "Best Korea", right?
>>81267382
America getting involved is an insta-you lose or you get a very pyrrhic victory for the other side.
>>81267586
This. It's a false flag.
Didn't Erdagon say something about Private security being in control of those against the coupe?
>>81267148
>Mohammed taught to kill and rape anyone who isnt Muslim
No he didn't you lying shit. He fought against people who persecuted him.
>>81267591
Why hope for evil? They have done nothing wrong.
>>81267931
It was raided by coup forces, then people gathered in front of the building and began chanting the usual "Allahu Akbar" to support them
Anyway mark my workds, Erdogan will only come out stronger if he survives this
>>81266586
>ruins another country
>implying turks didn't ruin anatolia
>>81268010
How does it work then?
>>81268120
>A
>FUCKING
>GERM
>>81268120
>German flag
This shit writes itself.
>>81267798
Yeah this is far from over, there is a good chance that after this any officers on the fence will cast their lot with the coup.
>>81268120
>THIS FLAG
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>81268028
It's because the military so far has been reluctant to shoot on them and civilians, things seem to be changing now though
>>81268029
I know, fellow German bro (my parents are German). Still, it's eerie to think about. Eliot said the world would end with a whisper, not with a bang. Maybe this is the whisper he was talking about.
>>81268053
Thanks! Peace from an Assyrian enemy ;)
>>81266786
this.
>>81267121
because the laws and rules of christianity comes from the same culture as islam. christian laws and muslim laws are nearly identical.
>>81267148
>Christianity and Islam are nothing alike.
they're very similar. they are the same branch of religion. both are abrahamic religions from the same culture, at nearly the same time, in the same area.
>the core values are completely different
the core prophets are different, the values are nearly identical
>>81266926
>Yes PKK has killed many turks, i believe Kurds have the right to fight for their future country
That's our territory dipshit, they should go have their country elsewhere.
>supports PKK
>opposes Chechens
Typical.
>>81267742
remaining generals on the fence will probably flip pro coup now out of paranoia.
Problem with islam is, it destroys. It leaves no room for doubt in this. You either kill it or it kills you.
>>81267591
oi, du er kul, altså. hva jobber du som?
I wonder.
Since Obama supports Erdogan and since CNN has already declared the coup over... If it does end up succeeding, do you think Obama will go all fucking weekend at Bernies with him?
>>81266907
Mortis?
>>81268074
Wow, great contribution to the thread, Pedro. Well done.
>>81268144
You have to go back
Why do so many people assumed this could lead to World War III? A Turkish Civil War yes, but WW3?
So, it's over, then? Livestream showed army surrendering.
>>81267359
Its like the beginning of ww2:
Turkey = old Spain: A former great power that is nominally aligned to the west. In decline and suffering from internal instability. Radical government elected and based patriotic military saving the people from themselves. The coup will succeed, and the removal of Turkey from the west's sphere will upset the balance in the region.
China = old Japan: a rising, industrializing asian power that mistakenly believes it is powerful enough to take on the world's dominant hyperpowers and claim mastery over all of east Asia.
Iran = old Italy: An empire in the classical age that wants to reclaim their ancient glory. A regional power at best, and surrounded by enemies. More of a burden than an asset to their team.
Russia = Old Germany: The leader of this ragtag bunch, and the only based country willing to fight the enemies of freedom head on. Does not want war, but war will be forced upon them.
Doubs confirms
>>81268120
>persecuted
"Waaaaah, why won't these plebs bow down and worship me?!"
Muhammad was a neckbearded degenerate fag. If he were around today, he'd be running some shitty blog.
>>81268120
t. Muhammad
p.s. Muhammad sucked cocks and still does in hell with Allah
fuck man, i am usually just a desensitized asshole during stuff like this, but this event is making me legitimately upset. i hardly batted an eyelash yesterday hearing about the shit in nice.
>>81267121
Are you serious?
>getting murdered cuz you're a heretic/witch/scientist
>>81267488
RARE FLAG
>>81268042
WOW you went a bit too far there for me man.
>Shia minorities in turkey hates Kurds
But they ARE the Kurds.
The rest of what you're saying is complete lezard-tier conspiracy tho
>>81268053
Stay safe, m8. I hope you'll be living in a pacified secular country.
>>81268165
>Erdogan will only come out stronger if he survives this
Oh, no doubt. If he makes it then he'll have carte blanche to purge his enemies and turn Turkey into a more Islamist country securing his power.
>>81268429
Because Turkey is the geographical gateway between Europe and the Middle East. It's probably one of the most geopolitically important nations on the planet.
>soldiers think about giving up
>see surrendering soldiers killed
>fight continues
well no shit
Can anyone explain to me why the police is siding with Erdogan? If the military is serious they will be BTFO without being able to do anything, why would they risk dying to protect him?
>>81263491
It's worse, not worst.
>>81259817
that could be false flag, god knows these little tinpot 80's action movie villain types arent above that kind of shit.
>>81259869
good luck roach, stay safe, and if you do get interviewed or see cameras, put up a /pol/ flag.
>>81268101
>muh starvation
>muh oppression
You realize that this is a retarded meme, right? The only countries that get fucked by communism are countries that would get fucked by any economic system. Demographics will always be more important.
I wouldn't expect a stupid canuck like you to know about Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, etc. that successfully implemented a communist system.
>>81267784
Negative. Turkish government controls the news in Turkey which means they control the narrative. Everything they report regarding the coup has to be taken as pure propaganda. Soldiers in Istanbul have failed but the military in Ankara seems to be consolidating its control as more of the military joins them.
>>81268429
Turkey holds some NATO nukes
>>81268120
part 2
>>81264459
No shit they're still fighting. They win or they die.
>>81266586
>Islam ruins another country
>Imblying Turkey wasn't already shit
>Imblying Turkey wasn't already islamic
>>81268363
>blind love and hateful revenge are the same thing
T. """"""""Norwegian""""""""
700+ soldiers detained. Coup is over that's more than a battalion's worth of people. Unless they get the fighter jets or navy there's no way they can win
>>81268465
They attempted assassinations and stone his kids in the street.
His enemies were polytheistic pagan goathumping Arabs. He was the best of the bunch.
It was against THEM that violence was supposed to be directed against.
Read a history books sometime.
>>81268041
Are you fucking stupid. Probably. You sound like a Kurd. My father is apart of the Chaldean Catholic Church if that's what you mean by Chaldean. Other than that they are no longer existent. You do know if this coup is successful Kurd's are fucked. The military hates the Kurd's not Erdogan.
>>81263634
>Air Force
wut, wasn't it pro erdogan?
>>81268120
fuck islam kill yourself.
Have a nice day :)
>>81268409
It's Obama, he literally recited Black Lies Matter bullshit at the funeral for the Dallas cops. He'll go full weekend at Bernies with it and then he'll do the shitty sequel too.
>>81268505
Youd almost think that happened hundreds of years ago
>>81268042
Is this true? I have noticed Daesh videos are filled with Kurd-looking people
>>81268433
istanbul is under control of erdogan, ankara is under control of coup. also only 400-500 military soldiers arrested, i think low ranked soldiers dont want to do this coup so they try to avoid fighting with police. but if all military decides to go out to take control, nothing can stop them. they have better weapons, better training also they have air force.
i think things ll be clear until tonight.
>>81268695
>The military doesnt hate Erdogan
How far can you go man, stop
'754 arrested from armed forces'
Posted at 01:02
The AFP news agency is reporting that 754 members of Turkish armed forces have been arrested for involvement in the coup, citing Turkey's state-run Anatolia news agency.
It quoted a Turkish official saying that 29 colonels and five generals had been removed from their posts.
>>81268505
>Citation Fucking Needed
We had Christian Clerical Fascism and we only went after commies and kikes, not bad targets.
>>81268518
ughhhhh.....
>>81268673
>Source needed
Nice try Erdogan.
>>81268120
BZZZ wrong try again dumbass
the Qoran states that the most recent additions trump all the text before it, and mainstream Islam lies to non-Muslims and considers it morally correct to rape and kill those who are non-believers
>>81268759
Why are you taking the bait man ? Kurds in Turkey are know for being very secular people, he is literally crazy
Will the US send soldier's to intervene? Isn't Obama Erdogan's bitch?
>>81268785
So it is over, then. If military has not supported by now, I doubt it will after the fall if Instanbul.
Rebels have 'no fighter jets'
Posted at 01:08
Rebel soldiers still control some military helicopters, but no fighter jets, a senior Turkish official has been quoted as saying.
>>81267859
Fuck off, cuck.
>>81268120
Fuck off, cuck.
>>81268639
>The only countries that get fucked by communism are countries that would get fucked by any economic system.
Right that's why Russia is failing hard under Capitalism... Oh shit, wait..
>Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, etc. that successfully implemented a communist system.
They were successfully implemented, yet doomed to fail. They are not good systems, and those respective countries are doing much better under democratic market-based systems today.
I would say I wouldn't expect an American to be this retarded, but honestly, it's not surprising at all.
>>81268813
its ogre
lads if this is legit, the level of the happening jumped quite a bit
>>81268584
Erdogan beefed up the police numbers (a lot!) with men loyal to him. Probably because he had been afraid of the army getting frisky for a good while, it's Turkey after all.
>>81268691
let's hear your justification for muhammad ordering the beheading of 900 jewish civilians
>>81266926
I am going to reiterate this a few times.
>between Iraqi Kurds (Sunni)
These people are being helped by the US against ISIS. Erdogan agreed to help yesterday.
>Turkish Kurds (mostly Alevi/Shia)
These people are Russians, or their own ethnic group. It is a misnomer to call the Alevites Kurds as a label.
>Turks don't support ISIS
Alevi turks support ISIS. ISIS is shia.
>>81268428
I'm contributing more to Canada's economy than you. If you really want me to leave I will. But make sure in my place you let in a Somali.
>>81268813
It's over
>>81267859
Fuck off mudslime nigger scum
>>81268505
3,000 people in 300 years. Yeah it's totally comparable.
>>81268994
>The coup is mainly by the Air Force
>Rebels have 'no fighter jets'
lul
>>81266786
>The only reason Christianity isn't dominating like Islam is because it was dragged kicking and screaming in to modern times
Romans 13 explicitly tells Christians to submit to civil authorities. Christianity was indelibly shaped by the fact that it developed as a minority religion in a pagan empire. Even at the height of it's power in the middle ages, the Church ceded most government responsibilities to secular authorities.
Islam, by contrast, has it's own codes of law it requires everyone to submit to. It was shaped by its early conquests, and considered its own doctrines to be the only legitimate basis for government.
>>81268120
German flag
>>81268994
include a link to the source when you say shit like this m8
>>81268898
>the Qoran states that the most recent additions trump all the text before it
Source.
And none of that has relevance to what I said.
dont believe a single word from turkish media. they are puppets of erdogan. erdogan spread his lies through media because he wants people to think that he already won, so people ll go outside for fighting coup soldiers. turkish military have more than 1 million soldiers. detaining 600-700 them can't stop coup.
i hope all of our military decides to act together and fuck all this islamlover goat fuckers.
>>81269025
i mean this
oy vey those evil tanks running over innocent lynch mobs
>>81268994
Dude the coup literally started with rebel fighter jets sweeping the skies over Instanbul and Ankara.
>>81268994
I thought this coup was by the airforce.
>>81268806
You read it incorrectly. I meant Erdogan doesn't hate the Kurd's, it is the Military that hates the Kurd's.
Watch out for Trucks.
>>81269191
>what is abrogation
>>81269211
no way
>>81269211
Pretty sure they're pro-coup.
>>81269138
>what is the 30 years war?
>>81267224
That's exactly the reason for the coup- to keep Turkey secular, and has been the reason for the last 4 coups as well.
>>81268994
If it's a guy directly under Erdogan I wouldn't trust them since Erdogan and his guys have been spewing misinfo all day.
>>81268120
>He fought against people who persecuted him.
HAHAH the fucking SJW I'm being oppressed defense. You're a fucking imbecile. Mohammed was a warlord who needed a social structure to organize and control his people, so he made Islam.
Riddle:
How many Turks does it take to paint the Hagia Sophia red?
>>81269264
All the jets so far have been government
mystery jet appeared again
ITSHAPPENING.JPG
>>81269211
Ehh its probably breakfast time.
>>81269305
Got a source to back that up?
>>81269211
Actual source needed, not just a guy saying so in comments. Until I see the actual army, and not 200 dudes on bridge, I will consider it ended and not happening.
>>81265439
Riiiiiight...
>>81265575
>don't want military coup
literally why
>>81269191
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)
In the Muslim holy book, stuff that comes after establishes the precedent.
Early Islam = Peaceful lovey dovey siht
Late Islam = Blood for the Blood god
This
Wonder why Russia hasn't intervened? Figured he want to take advantage of something like this. Is he afraid of that NATO price tag Turkey has on it? I thought he might want revenge for that downed jet.
Also, will Obama send troops to fight against the coupe?
need some streeeam
>>81269397
and how many to deny it happen?
>>81269365
Dude i'm no fan of islam but mohammed was basically a cult leader who fought back against people trying to suppress him and shat all over them
Is it possible that the rest of the army takes part in the coup and helps them overthrow Erdogan?
Stay safe, dadash, iyi shanslar
>>81269439
this. ther's so much disinfo going on i only believe videos.
even then some are from previous years.
>>81268667
>implying you've ever read anything that's not on 4chan
read your bible, then read the quran. you'd be surprised.
>""""""""Norwegian""""""""
right, i forgot that elitist fuckheads are right even when they're wrong. not being american instantly makes me wrong about everything... oh, wait... I AM FUCKING AMERICAN. and even if i wasn't it wouldn't matter, as i still have read both books, while you haven't.
>>81269535
kek
>>81266269
Fucking savages. Cry and shout propaganda about how many of our soldiers are dying fighting at the Kurdish front then come and pull this shit.
Literally subhuman
>>81269305
I sure hope so.
Where turkbro at?
You still safe man?
>>81269058
Ah so Turkish Kurds will be pro-Islam and Erdogan but Iraqi Kurds will be the opposite?
>>81268542
>But they ARE the Kurds.
This is not true at all.
Alevi are Caucasian, Kurds are mesopotamian.
The leader of ISIS is openly shiist.
>>81268759
You are confusing people from the Caucasus with people from Mesopotamia.
Kurdish men tend to have straight hair on their heads and a slight bulb near the top of their nose, just between the eyes.
Curly haired pale guys are from the Caucasus.
Shia claim to be Kurds so they can bitch about being persecuted. It gets so obnoxious that they claim to be Yazidi, which is a completely different religion from shiism.
Yazidi are typically just pious Kurds.
They get persecuted by the Shia who call themselves ISIS.
>>81269498
The best way for Russia to help is to support the rebels; if they physically intervene it will escalate the situation out of control.
>>81269498
>Wonder why Russia hasn't intervened
>Turkey shoots down russian jet
>Putin smiles and says it's k
>suddenly daily PKK bombings and a military revolt
Is called KGB friendo
One of my favourite video games is Front Mission 3 which is largely about military coups.
It's weird how suddenly I'm seeing one happen in real life just when I was thinking about doing another playthrough.
>>81268639
>East Germany, etc. that successfully implemented a communist system.
>needs to build wall and shoot people who try to leave.
>>81269646
This Turk is alright. Too bad your country is overrun by Kebab
>>81269402
YEEEESSSSSSS
>>81269563
At first, sure. But then he waged war against anyone who opposed him, and urged all Muslims to do the same.
>>81265997
>that pic
Lol
>>81269498
>implying Russia isn't the cause for daily bombings and coups in Turkey since they downed the jet
>>81269365
He became a war lord after he was BTFO his own hometown along with his fellow believers you shitstain.
>>81266907
Ree
Ankara stream here https://www.periscope.tv/w/alhpIjFEWUVYa0RlTk5Bamd8MVprSnpwUFJheVdLdgmc93gVhTUxbGt227gLXNo48mmbZKlyDuUkhNiQWxY6
>>81268363
The values are completely different because the koran completely overwrites the torah and the new testament. The best way of understanding this is by realizing how every religion came to be.
Judaism - Jewish ethnic religion
Christianity- Jesus the hippie shows up and preaches his "love your neighbor" etc philosophy
Islam- Mohammad needs a good cover for his military campaigns, so he takes christianity, and adds his shitty fanfic to it that states that everyone who isnt his follower is an absolute shitlord who deserves to die
>>81269058
ISIS is Sunni though....
>>81269297
>Erdogan doesnt hate the Kurds
He hates them more than anything, they are a big threat to him man.
You're right about the army tho, Ataturk fought many times against Kurds
>>81269493
Yes, blood for the blood god, against people who deserve it. The infidels in Mecca did something to deserve it. You guys, not so much.
MYSTERY JET HEADED FOR ANKARA!!
TURKISH MILITARY CONFIRMED UFO-BACKED COUP
>>81258946
are you turks even allowed to own guns?
are you safe right now? are things being bombed still?
>>81269953
If the Ottoman's didn't kill my people than that land would be settled by peaceful Christian's today. Imagine. A tourists paradise.
>>81270090
AYY
>>81269676
>Ah so Turkish Kurds will be pro-Islam and Erdogan but Iraqi Kurds will be the opposite?
Turkish kurds and Iraqi kurds are not really separate ethnic groups.
It looks like the alawites are calling themselves Kurdish to hide the genocide they are committing against Kurds.
Most kurds are pro-Islam, but not in favor of salafist or wahhabist sects of Islam. They are the muslim progressives with their own school of thought.
>>81269058
I... i
i don't know what to respond man, this has to be some kind of perfidious bait i am too stupid to see
>Kurds are Russians because they are communist
>ISIS is Shia
wew bro, calm down
btw, the Bosphorus strait is not closed as of yet. There is still plenty of traffic going through
why are the soldiers white and the anti-coup lynch mob brown?
>>81268639
>east germany
>successful
Haha Bernie lost give up kid
>>81270247
Do you really have to ask?
Subhumans are going to act like subhumans
>>81269740
Daily PKK bombings were orchestrated by Erdogan to make people reelect him.
>>81268673
Japan you obviously are not up to date.
The coup is mainly by the Air Force and Gendarmarie. Some land forces are strongly against it while many are inbetween. The fight until now has been between the police and coup, therefore small in size. If the land forces choose Erdogan's side it may get ugly, up to a full scale war for a short while. If some of them choose the coup's side, it will most likely succeed in several hours.
Erdogan called everyone out to the streets even though the army warned not to. Azans stating that this is a holy war, second independence war, Islam should be defended have been recited.
Army is very violent in Ankara. Many civilians have been shot (99% Erdogan supporters). Parliament was still under bombardment until 20 minutes ago (couldn't get any info since). Army had captured many important television channels but not all.
Istanbul is a little less violent. Bridges and Ataturk Airport is still under army control. Soldiers do not hesitate to drive over a couple persons who stand in front of tanks (to protest).
Parliament and police stations have been under heavy fire by airforce, mainly in Ankara by helicopters. Some have been shot down. Many soldiers were caught/surrendered in Istanbul.
SOURCE: From a turk that lives there.
Also there is massive naval movement on the coast. This is not done yet...not at all.
>>81264783
just keep it together until after the olympics, OK. Too many happenings right now!
>>81270247
a lot of pro-erdogan protestors are syrian refugees and erdogan gives them their gibs so they will fight to the death for him.
turks are whites, just muslim whites. like bosnians
>>81265275
him and his family are under special police and counter terror armed guards 24/7.
>>81270247
Poor people Support Erdogan.
Poor people work outside.
From the looks of it, it looks more like his face is turning pink from the beating.
>>81270247
Fucking horrednous. Also ever surrendering to muslims.
>>81270159
oh shit whaddup
>>81269309
Something that happened 400 years ago and when the west was uncivilized, many things happened since then and even at it's most extreme Modern Christianity doesn't equal Modern Islam.
>>81269848
Pretty sure he destroyed his enemies and then died. his successors thought "damn, this is a good business model" and kept going, sort of like British imperialists.
Until Martel stopped them anyway.
So, enough disinfo, who has surrendered, and how many are actually in the coup? Why has the army not moved to support this?
>>81267382
What does NATO do?
I think this is the perfect time to just give turkey the boot. Theyre too risky considering that any NATO member could draw the whole alliance US included into a war
>>81269498
Russia can't intervene directly (only covertly.) Obama has already put out word that Erdogan is his boy so no one from the outside can touch him.
>>81269949
>ISIS is Sunni though
That is completely wrong because the leader calls himself a shiist.
That means he preaches from the works of Ali.
There is some confusion based on which Caliphs he believes were righteously guided.
The important doctrinal difference is that ISIS enforces sharia through imams which are locally infalliable. That is a strictly shiite practice.
Could you explain more about the Syrains Erodong imported and their roles in all this?
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>>81270593
EXCITEMENT
>>81269953
>He hates them more than anything, they are a big threat to him man
Erdogan is the most pro Kurd leader in recent history. KEK.
>>81270593
what's the site m8 i forgot
>>81270593
NUKES
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>>81268102
What is the Veitnam war?
>>81270593
Ayy lmaos on the approach vector?
>>81270593
nuke incoming?
So to any of those inside Turkey, is the military coup going to result in a benevolent dictator acting in what it perceives is the people's interest and arranging for elections; or is military acting as a puppet of US? Russia? Some other force? What are big picture implications? Or is it a wild card?
>>81270207
>>Kurds are Russians because they are communist
Alevites in Turkey are Russians or Caucasians who emigrated there after and during WW1. They are not Kurds.
Shitty, almost impossible to answer question that's already been asked 100 times, but could this be the beginning off WWIII? Who would the major players be?
>Russia vs. US?
>how would they get involved?
The only thing I can think of is US backs government forces and Russia backs coup forces, but it's looking like the revolt is dying down now.
>>81268259
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
MYSTERY UFO-JET DOING SOMETHING PRAISE OUR UFO-OVERLORDS
WAS HEADED FOR ANKARA, NOW MOVING TOWARDS ISTANBUL?
>>81270672
>>81270695
ASL @5200ft, doubt it
DID SOMETHING HAPPEN?
>>81270655
https://www.flightradar24.com/3403/a5ad921
>>81270593
If digits on this post or a reply to it then it's coup plane
>>81270496
modern Christianity >>>>> Modern Islam
Medieval Christianity however....
>>81268402
hobbi juopti og og simot
>>81270803
thanks and FUCK
>>81270803
IS IT GOING TO ISTANBUL
>>81268293
Goytschland strikes again
Can anybody in Ankara report? Ongoing conflict there?
http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=LTBA
BOTH RADIOS DOWN IN ISTANBUL AIRPORT
IT WAS ALIVE 15MINS AGO
>>81270128
I am safe, thank you. I am in Istanbul and kind of outside the city centre so it's been quiet here so far except for an explosion and a few gunshots. Will try to sleep now, it's going to be a long day.
Thanks for the nice thread guys
>>81269611
You didn't even try to refute my point, Ahmed.
Show me the bible verse where Jesus tells his followers to kill non-believers
>>81270803
That's some insertion op going on yo. They dropped of some HALO dudes I guarantee it. Expect subversive attacks in Ankara soon.
>>81270852
Kys muslim
>>81270718
>Shitty, almost impossible to answer question that's already been asked 100 times, but could this be the beginning off WWIII? Who would the major players be?
The alawites in Turkey rebelled because Erdogan signed an agreement with the US to support the Peshmerga.
Shia want to side with other Shia in Daesh. Russia is supporting that group and lying about it in public.
>>81270852
still more civilized, with a higher literacy rate, and better human rights.
>>81269943
this bores me. read the fucking books. all are founded on the torah. islam calls jews "fake followers" of god, claiming they diverged from the true texts. funny enough, christians say the same thing. so all three religions rely on the torah as a guide for morals and laws, but make their own interpretations which are basically the same, just with tiny variations.
jesus being a hippie is a modern interpretation devoid of relation to the original text. jesus was just slightly more lenient than the others, however he still supported stoning and other violent punishment. today we'd have a hard time seeing the difference between him and any other tusken raider. he wasn't for democracy, or equality, or any modern, western values. he was all for ancient middle eastern values, which are not nice at all.
>>81270959
Nah, Erdogan will win, and will secure his power. It's the future you chose. Sleep tight, neighbour.
>>81267382
America was shit back then. Brits were America of the time.
Americans opposed colinialism and would've probably liked Atatürk.
>>81271024
Daesh are Sunni retard is this bait?
>>81270935
Probably not. Communications are heavily restricted. They don't want that BS coup lose news coming in.
>>81270718
It won't be because Putin has better sense then get involved directly after Obama flapped his big nigger lips about supporting Erdogan.
Could ISIS try to invade Turkey using this situation?
>>81270959
Thanks again and stay safe friend
UNKNOWN TRAFFIC SPOTTED?
HAPPENING AT AIRPORT?
http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=ltba&icao=ltba
>>81270539
Do you have a source saying they are shia with an in depth explanation? I'm not calling you a liar I'm just curious because there seems to be alot of conflicting information on the Interwebs.
>Inb4 Google it
INSTABUL NEXT?
>>81270980
he actually dropped altitude from 15000ft to 5000ft and went under the radar for a brief moment, wouldn't be surprised if you were right
>>81270852
>Medieval Christianity however....
Was less secular than medieval Islam.
Islam was a very Kurdish thing back then.
There is a mutiny against Erdogan because he signed an agreement to support the Kurds in Syria.
>>81270700
Military might engage in some large scale executions, but honestly, many of them will have it coming.
Historically, military coups have been prompted by America.
godamn it roaches why are you just driving around waiting to be shot
So fundamentally this is a war between religious police (sharia police) and secularism.
>>81271127
>Daesh are Sunni retard is this bait?
Do I have to repeatedly explain what the different sunni vs shia interpretations of Sharia are, or does it make enough sense for you to know that the leader of Daesh calls himself a Shiist?
>>81270852
>t. Salamo Mohammed the """"""German"""""""
The crusades were a response to centuries of Muslim aggression. Nothing the same as modern Islam
