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Europeans before Christ were essentially savage woodniggers

>human sacrifice
>tree worshiping
>mud huts
>raiders with no real civilization

With Christ, Europe is nothing.

God is currently punishing Europe (Old Testament style) for turning away from Christ and become faithless commie SJW cucks

The terrorist attacks will never truly stop until Europe is made Christian once again

And to those of you who say Christ is a cuck-jew…look at Europe during its prime

-Europe united in Latin for ease of communication between scholars and the rise of universities
-Art, music and architecture = high point of humanity
-Traditional families
-Economies where men could work 40+ week and provide for a large family without women in the workforce
-Jewish power kept to minimum
-Muslims incursions stopped and Holy Land held or within reach

Without Christ there is no Western Civilization

Never forget this
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>>81151817
>Europeans before Christ where savage
Explain Egypt.
Indeed.
You heretic swine.
Praise the Gods.
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>>81151817
This basically
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>>81151817
>>81152119

What was Rome, Greece, Egypt?

Fucking christcucks can't see it's dead and instead of putting energy towards our Race, they double down into more relgious cuckery.
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>>81152014
Im talking about white people and white civilization

Before Christ white people (Western and Northern Europeans) were fucking nigger tier dumb
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>>81152324
>Romans
>Greeks
>Egyptians

White? lel
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>>81152366
Ancient Greece? Ancient Rome? You're nigger tier ignorant.
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>>81151817
Christ has returned
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>>81152366
Then explain the pyramids?
They where made so mathematically correct, we can't even make it with our technologies.
God is false.
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>>81151817

Europeans before Christ built concrete bridges, roads and aqueducts that are still in use today, and lived in a society of equality, democracy and scientific advancement.

Christianity played a significant part in destroying civilization for the next thousand years.

Kill yourself.
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And now its time for us to rise again and defend our homelands like our ancestors before us did.

Deus Vult!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8viSgLTVM
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>human sacrafice
not even blood sacrafice
>tree worshiping
whats wrong with that?
>mud huts
no
>radiders with no real civilization
tribalism

christians
>kill science
>kill europians
>kill europian culture
>blood sacafice
>kill hygine

delusional christian...
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>>81152324
Of note is that the quality of living dropped by a mile once christianity became a thing and most of the previous empires fell.

No indoor plumbing or sewers for the next 1000+ years after christianity took over.
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>>81151817
Not true what so ever, fucking burgers...
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>>81152741
>look a this bridge made in the roman times, that means european culture isnt highly influenced by christianity, t. pagan
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>>81152324
>Thinks Race is objective reality

Race is the expression of a higher reality - read some Evola you dim cuck
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The highest points of European civilization came from the ages when Christ was held in highest esteem by the people of Europe

You cannot equate the Romans coming in and getting shit done with woodnigger pagan yuro trash building stick huts and fucking their cousins
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>>81152831
wow civilization dipped when the roman empire collapsed

big surprise

I'm sure europe never recovered from that, oh wait they did…and made it 100x better
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>>81153225
>muh big rocks in a circle

wow
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Every single 'atheist' on here is an anti-Christian 14 year old.
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>>81152831

But human sacrifice was not as popular
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>>81151817

Amen brother
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>>81153333
>muh imaginary friend that lives in the clouds
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>>81153564
>Sweden
>being an atheist cuck

no real surprise here

enjoy your women getting blacked by muslim dick
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>>81153810
rekt XD
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>>81151817
Amen brother.

>Atheism
>Western civilization
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Oh didnt read all of your post

>Europe united in Latin for ease of communication between scholars and the rise of universities
not because of x-stianity

>traditional famalies
implying it was different before, you just prohebited sex, that weakend the famalies

>Economies
so were is x-stianitys role?

>kikes
who is your savior again?

>mudslimes
implying a romanlike civilization would have stoped them

>no x-stianity, no western civilization
are you denying Egypt, Greece and Rome?
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>>81152456
Thank a Roman emperor for allowing Christianity you sick fuck
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What the fuck is 'x-stianity' supposed to be?
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>>81153333
How would you have moved 25 metric ton standing stones 20 miles with 5000 year old technology?
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>>81153071
that was not his point.
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I find it hard to believe that /pol/ would not fight against Christianity spreading in their pagan lands were they around at that time.
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>>81153356
And very single 'christian' on here is a "everyone else is a heathen" 12 year old. Look it get make sweeping generalizations also.
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>>81152568
He said western and northern Europe. Greece and Italy are southern Europe
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>>81154328
>Look it get make

Atheists, everyone.
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>>81153810
You believe in a deity, there's no reason to take anything you say seriously. You're on the intellectual level of a inbred sandnigger or somalian.
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>>81152568
You only ever claim Southern Europeans as white when it's convenient for you because of pic related
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>>81153373
Lots of lynching over inane stuff, though.

>>81153270
It took over 1000 years to recover and reach the same technology level, as in the average European city was inferior to the average "ancient" Roman city until the 1500s, not to mention Christians rioting and destroying everything was a third of the reason Rome fell in the first place.

I love Christianity and all, but the Christians between the 3nd and 17th century were complete shits who just wanted to loot, kill and murder with an excuse.
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>>81153972
With respect to the economy Christ plays an important role

Modern capitalism as E Michael Jones explains is the legalization of usury a practice prohibited by the Bible

Modern economies have no moral structure to them

Men should be able to work one job, 40 hours a week and provide for a family without the wife having to work

The economy is so unregulated and immoral today that it turns us all into wage slaves

I am not advocating for socialism and definitely not communism…capitalism is superior to these systems

BUT

I recognize the flaws with capitalism and realism that Christian moral law needs to be involved with the economy

Get the women out of the workforce
Eliminate the Jewish practice of usury
Fair wages
Place limits of prices to discourage predatory pricing

Medieval Christian economies understood this
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No Europe needs to go back to Norse mythology
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>>81154576
How can that be when belief in creation theory is the logical outcome of an examination of all known Genesis theories?
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>>81154576
What about pagan theists?
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>>81154555

Trips of hilarious truth
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The Romans and Greeks seemed to do alright without Christianity. But yes Christianity is the primary factor for European unity and success.

Without Christianity European identity would not exist.
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>>81151817
Misotheism is the true redpill.

I curse god for every white death.
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>>81151817
God punishes those he doesn't like, but Satan? Nah, Satan's chill. Screw you, "god."
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>>81154625
Or because they're not as White now as they used to be.
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>>81154775
I totally agree, but what has christ to do with that?
Europian virtues are better suited for Europians.
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>>81154850
Paganism is dead you fucking retard

All of those values can be accomplished with a Christian life

With the added benefit of going to heaven and not being a 21st century pagan LARPer faggot

You Europeans are so fucking dumb

You go from being atheists to being 12 year old fucking metal head pagans

STAY WOKE #THOR
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>>81152366

go make one of these then, smarty pants
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>>81155018
Literally pic related
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>>81155142
During medieval times laws of Christian morality were placed on all European economies

Then the Protestants began legalizing usury and then the British Empire went full Jew and started taking over the world an attacking other Christian nations with the money they made from usury

Christ in the Bible said usury was illegal

The one time in the Bible Jesus went ape shit was when he started beating money changers

Modern capitalism permits usury today

We have to get back to Christian basics and the economy is one aspect of that we cannot neglect

Hitler was close to having it right with respect to the economy
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>>81154957
It has nothing to do with the actual stricture though, just the pan-European institutions that it allows for. The problem with /pol/ is that it's overpopulation with mongrel burgers with no ties to their indigenous culture or religion(s).
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>>81151817
>>human sacrifice
>>tree worshiping
>>mud huts
>>raiders with no real civilization

that's totally wrong atleast for gauls
but goths were wood niggers
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>>81155326
Im not a fucking boat builder and neither was my father, grandfather and great grandfather

But Im sure you and I could both do it if we were raised as such
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>>81155642

you literally just implied my point dipshit
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I'm a dualist. Fuck off mainstream christians and your shit theology.
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>>81155446
The ancient greeks hated ursury as well. I think it was Plato or Aristotle who said that ursury was the lowest form of earning money and that farming, animals or even selling slaves was better.
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>>81155818
what was your fucking point?

Europeans were smelly dumb niggers who made boats to rape people and take their shit because they were too dumb to build a successful and stable agrarian civilization

That woodniggers would kill their female babies and suck off maple trees to appease their dumb norse Gods who all die in the end?
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>>81155841

>I'm a duellist. Fuck off mainstream christians and your shit theology.
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>>81154850
You can follow all of these principles without believing in Oden or any of the other gods. I like the asatro mythology a lot, but I would never say that the gods ever existed or that it is anything but stories.
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>>81151817
So the Romans were a bunch of tree worshiping, human sacrificing, mud hutting, raiders with no real civilization.

I wonder what you think of the Greeks and the Macedonians.
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>>81155981
yeah Romans hated usury as well

all I am saying though is that European cannot survive liberalism and Islam without the grounding force of Christianity

and not modern cucked Christianity

but the Christianity of the early 20th century…at least…the further back the better

Degeneracy must be crushed
Jews kept in line
Muslims kept out

God
Race
Nation
Family

All must be centered on Christ for a nation to be successful

Paganism is dead and anyone who wants to return to this should follow Hitler and kill themselves

We already tried this and it failed
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>>81155144
Aren't you embarrassed to openly believe in a magical sky God? I mean, when are you going to grow up?
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>>81155353
You're not familiar with the Moorish invasions then?
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>>81154957
Christianity also brought radical critique of law (spirit over letter) and a completely different attitude toward literacy, with a partially decentralized framework for revival. Paganism was okay for a while, but ran out of steam, and has no repair mechanism or low-level revelation. No Pagan Knox ever quoted, "give me (land where I am already nominally worshipped) or I die."
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>>81156630
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>>81155446
>During medieval times laws of Christian morality were placed on all European economies
Which handed control of Western finances over to the Jews.
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>>81156427

Most European grown-ups for the last two thousand years have been Christian
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>>81156746
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>>81156427
Christ is the final redpill

Ive gone through atheist and pagan phases so I speak from experience

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the light

Fear and love the lord

Everything in this world can be fixed by applying Christ

I can die happy knowing these thoughts would make my ancestors proud, especially those who forged Europe and America

Christ is king
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>>81156775
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>>81155144
The real gods cant die.
And btw, they are on the rise.
Even your christian fanatics say that Baal and Lucifer come back.
Mate just learn about your past.

>>81155446
Yes Hitler(who was obviously pagan), had it quite right.
Mate I dont think that some values in the bible are wrong. I just say that we had compareable or even the same ideals here in Europe before.
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>>81156824
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>>81156025
It's dual, not duell. Enjoy licking the boot the of the religious establishment. We true Christian will contiune our devotion to god.
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>>81152831
Just because Puerto Rico is shit, doesn't mean medieval Europe was as well. You honestly think that after the fall of Rome, everything that was created suddenly vanished?

Rome didn't vanish, neither their achievements. It simply shattered into small fiefdoms that eventually became kingdoms. Sewers and indoor plumming was still alive and well in Europe, and was gradually expanding North.

Problem is that building sewers in the dry regions of Europe is a lot easier than building it up North in the cold and wet areas.
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>>81151817
>human sacrifice
Opinion discarded.
>Without Christ there is no Western Civilization
What do you think Western Civilization is?
>Holy Land held or within reach
Who cares about that shithole?
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>>81156807

I love to kneel and worship His perfect body!
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>>81151817
signed H. Bill
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>>81156684
Not at all

In places where Christ was king these laws kept the Jews at bay

Only when the leaders became weak or vain did they turn to the Jews as an easy fix for cash in a tight spot

These authority figures opened up the doors for the Jews who would then come in and destroy a nation
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>>81152594
>They where made so mathematically correct, we can't even make it with our technologies.
Its a egyptologian meme.We can, we just don't
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>>81151817
>Hellenists build Europe
>Christians destroy it
>tell anyone who doesn't worship a Semitic religion they're shit

K
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>>81154246
He is wahabi muslim named Mohamed. He probably thinks by saying x-stianity he is favouring his muslim sky daddy.
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>>81156982

>I have only myself to worship >:^)

>And so do you ;)
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>>81156939
>What do you think Western Civilization is?

Christian civilization. Please kill yourself if you honestly think paganism is valid in any way.
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Year 2016.
In spain a single catholics man is making a 8000m2 cathedral on his own.
In france a single muslim man is killing 84 peoples on his own.
Damn i m still wondering which side is evil and which side is good.
Any hints ?
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>>81156856
I will consider pagans and traditional Christians (of the conservative non cucked variety) allies

The devil is real and is a powerful force

God lets the devil test and tempt the world to see who is worthy and who can stand up to the evil

Hitler was a very smart guy but his brand of neo-paganism ultimately failed…got millions of good whites killed and set back the nationalist movement 100 years

If Hitler was truly a Christian he would have been successful

I do admire what he did to the German economy though in the inter war years
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>>81154576
>I don't know anything about anything
>therefore clearly God can't exist
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>>81157407
The Christian is probably a virgin who who has penis envy and hates women. He is building a cathedral to oppress women from walking in the sun.
The sun is life bringer like a women. That is why the patriarchy is building huge penis like building to stop women getting the mother sun's energy.
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>>81157327
>Christian civilization.

Love They Neighbor as Thyself.

Unless they are Black or Muslim or Jewish or Gay or Different in any way.

Christianity is a Religion of Peace!
(or hypocrisy)

Muh Sky Daddy!!!
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>>81155460
Christianity is the indigenous American religion

>>81156875
>religious establishment
>I iz true Christian

You can't be a Christian without the Church
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>>81157740

>The Christian is probably a virgin who who has penis envy and hates women

(((Freud))) gtfo
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>>81156044
Ye I also thought that, but then some spirit visited me mate. That was a hardcore incident.

>>81156330
But why embrace a semetic diety, if you can choose europian ones?

Look at the youth today, at the end they are the future, and they tend to take paganism seriously.
We should use that to our advantage.
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>>81154328
If you aren't a Christian you are a heathen you moron, this has been the Christian opinion on non-Christians for 2000 fucking years

If I had to guess you're 17 and think you're pretty smart with a wicked sense of humor like your hero Shadow the Hedgehog
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>>81157845
Is that stain in your back from the rio grande, Pedro?
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>>81157762
God established different nations on earth

God isn't this multi cult freak

He recognizes the differences of race and nation

But he wants all these different races nations to be Christian

that is the difference

we can have our separate cultures, we can be different races but we must all be united in Christ

its not hypocrisy its just common sense and perfectly natural

Europe is for white Christians
Africa is for black Christians
Asia is for Asian Christians
etc

All have their differences but are united in Christ

This is also why the mass is supposed to be in Latin. So you could go to any church in the world and still hear the same mass (aside from the homily)
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>>81156673
>>81156746
>>81156775
>>81156871
that is fucking nice

contributing OC
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>>81157327
So, to you, pre-Christian Rome and Greece are what? If they're not the beginning and foundation of Western Civilization
>>81157429
>The devil is real and is a powerful force
What led you to that conclusion?
>God lets the devil test and tempt the world to see who is worthy and who can stand up to the evil
Why? Doesn't he already know?
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>>81157429
how come you believe in Christ?

that is the main question here I think
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>>81158011
Look at the Bible

Jesus is a Jew yes…but he basically trolled them for his entire life

Jesus also transcends Judaism

God establishes his covenant with the Jews because he knows how fucking stubborn they are. So he watches them. Makes sure they separate themselves from the rest of the world and sends them prophets to keep them in line

Then he uses the Jews as his vessel to come into the world. At the height of Roman power, God subverts the empire ensuring the dominance of his new religion

God using the Jews within the Roman Empire was all a part of his master plan…to crash paganism with no survivors

Besides paganism is a fucking joke. Have you even read the prose edda? It talks about a God not cutting his toenails for strength or some shit

Pagans God are fucking woodnigger fairly tales

And protip all the Pagan Gods fucking die in the end
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>>81158206

I completely agree with you OP

Here have an Eastern Roman Empire chant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBg9nS9m_8
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>>81151817
The amount of stupid in this post is bloody toxic. See here, lad, god didn't make our little island the great empire it was, WE did. By the sweat of our brows and the fires of industry, we conquered half the world. We birthed you. We brought civilisation to most of the world. If you want to thank anyone for the success of Europe, thank the empires of man. It was by our stern hand that we crafted an earth in which the white race thrives. The savage hordes at our gates WILL be fought back. The mudslimes are not the wrath of any god, rather, the product of our success - they envy what we have and seek to bring it down to their level. They won't. I won't let them. Britain won't let them. And you, you smarmy little shit, have no right to let them either. We didn't raise our son up a pussy. 1776 was a good show on your part. Where'd that go, eh? Where's the fight in you?
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>>81152366
Right, because the dark ages were so civilized.
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>>81157508
>If I just BELIEVE in a semetic God created by people with sub 90 IQ I suddenly become enlightened

There's no proof of any gods and you can't accept it because you're whole worldview and set of morals are based on make belive from thousands of years ago.
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>>81151817

>Europeans before Christ were essentially savage woodniggers
I stopped here.

>american education.
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>>81158763

>See here, lad, god didn't make our little island the great empire it was, WE did.

Uh oh. Our ancestors don't seem to agree with you
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>>81158555
Obviously faith is a big part of it but honestly I started to get into philosophy

I went from being a Stirner spook back to classics (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle)

Then I started looking at Aquinas and never looked back

Aquinas is a combination of Christianity and Aristotle that really makes a lot of sense

So yes you can explain Christ by faith but if you really, really start exploring the philosophy of Aquinas you can explain God rationally

Aquinas is the key to rationally understanding Christ. And it can be done. But people who dismiss Aquinas truly don't understand the gravity and complexity of what he is saying

You could look at Aquinas for 5 seconds and think you are much smarter than him. But during medieval times Aquinas and his followers would have spent years studying complex philosophy

I think there is something to that

check him out

Im not going to try to win you over by faith alone arguments
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>>81153270
Yeah, and do you know why the renaissance was a thing?
Secularism; a detachment from God.
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>>81158622
wtf?
do you acctually believe that?
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>>81156491
>Southern Europeans aren't blonde and blue-eyed because of Moors
kys
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>>81154576
dips fedora : DDDD
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Not religious but Christianity is my favorite religion
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>>81158892
the "dark ages" is a fucking myth

promoted by whiggish historians to make the "renaissance" seem enlightened…when it really was the overthrow of Christ and the beginning of secular humanism
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>>81154576
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>>81159191
yes you fucking cucked kraut I do

Christ is King baby
Ave Maria
Deus Vult
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>>81158763
The British Empire was created by Jewish usury and exploitative capitalism
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Psalm 18:34 He teacheth my hands to War
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>>81159332
>>81159451
>getting this triggered by reality
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>>81159159
Aquinas
that is the guy who said music is for God and not for the people.

>smart

no mate, just no.

sorry to disapoint you
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>>81160094

>burning Churches

The dickest move you can autistically do
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>>81160122
Aquinas is on another level you fucking mongoloid

Remember Christ when the Muslims are burning down your town, killing your family/friends and raping your women when you ask Odin to come down on his sky chariot

You could have prevented this

Yet again you are a German and you entire history is geared towards self destruction
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>>81160748
If I loose with the Gods on my side, its my fault.
Not because I didnt follow some teachings that were made up to control people...
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>>81161337

>Not because I didnt follow some teachings that were made up to control people...

And paganists were classical liberals to the core
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>>81160465
You can just consider it payback.
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>>81161739

Animals know not forgiveness
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>>81161681
You can use propaganda to help your people (Hitler and other pagans)
You can use it to benefit yourself
(Church, Kikes, Mudslimes)

By first kind of propaganda (positive propaganda)
You acctually tell truth in a way that is easy to understand.
Or lies that are needed to defeat a lieing enemy.(very very rare)
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>>81161337
People controlling each other's minds is older than the Jews. You're preaching classic "destroy everthing to be free" Lucifarianism.

Listen to jGN6AIag -- he's bringing the wisdom.
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>>81160465
Good. It's revenge
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>>81162622

>revenge

Repent your savagery barbarian
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>>81161882
>being this retarded
>“If there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise” (Exodus 21:23–25).
>burn for burn
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>>81162600
I am totaliterian though, did I sound like a libtard?
Wasnt my intention.
I meant negative control, read here>>81162435
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>>81162435

>pathological lying

This is what atheism does to people
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>>81162849
HAHAHA
good job mate c;
lets celebrate with pic related
it looks so purifying :O
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>>81151817
Fucking this.
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>>81163089
what do you mean? also I am not an atheist
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>>81156017

>smelly dumb niggers who made boats
>niggers who made boats

>niggers
>boats
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>>81162963
>I am totaliterian though
That's what I mean. In order to be the one in control, you have to destroy everything else. Your worst enemy would be somebody with free will who believes in a higher power.
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>>81163421

Do gods objectively exist?
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>>81151817
This is true.
Paganism didn't make Western civilization.
It was gone by the time we had risen.
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>>81160748
>when you ask Odin to come down on his sky chariot
This is one of the fundamental issues with Christian thought. The gods aren't there to do things for you, they generally don't give a shit about you. You pray "oh, God do this shit because I'm a fucking retard who can't do shit for myself" when you should pray "lend me strength, my swordarm may grow weary".
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>>81162842
>savagery
>barbarian
Only the strong survive. Christianity promotes weakness and fragility. It will collapse like the ones who came before it.

The world belongs to the savage, the barbarian.
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>>81151817
autism
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>>81164438

It promotes humility. Your rage will consume you and devour your sanity - Proverbs 16:18

Regress to your primal nature and you're done for
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>>81160094
>Too big of a pussy to burn down mosques because someone would retaliate
>Burn down churches instead
LMOA
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>>81163747
The west was based on the foundation of the pagan Greeks and romans. Western civilization was a regressed backwater until the greco-roman inspired renaissance.
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>>81163525
>your worst enemy woul be a man with free will
no
If I would do everything correctly(I dont think I could handle the authority though), there wouldnt be free men that would be against me.
If I would make many mistakes, someone should be able to take my power. Something like a trust refferendum that is binding. If 70% of the people dont trust you, you must resign.

Something like that.

Degeracy is anything that harms children in any way.

Degeracy must not be tolerated.

That is the main reason for totalitarianism, there are a few more, but i will get to long.
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>>81164964
>>81164918
Christians are huge cucks for islam
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>>81163648
yes, at least in spirit form.

>>81164918
We are full of love, this love leads to anger against semetics.
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>>81165257
Stop destroying their extremely emperical claims, norge-bro or god will smite the!
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>>81165396

There are hardly any more Christians in the West
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>God is currently punishing Europe (Old Testament style) for turning away from Christ and become faithless commie SJW cucks


Not quite yet. When He punishes Europe, it will be very obvious. Think how much death there was in WWII to pay for the sins of the 1920s and 30s. Now think how much there will have to be to pay for all the sins since the 1960s.
The fear of God is coming back to Europe. People won't be sneering at those who pray when there's nothing but death, disease, and famine.
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>>81165853
>t-t-they aren't real christians!
Sure buddy.
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>>81159263
Stay mad chink
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>>81164438
>The world belongs to the savage
>mfw barbarians no longer exist

>>81164894
>autism
>posts anime reaction picture

>>81165396
>Christians are huge cucks for Islam
>Swedish poster
Your country is being taken over by tolerant, politically correct atheism and other cuckified libertarian ideals.
>Christians are huge cucks for Islam
>Crusades
>Moors kicked out of Spain
>Orthodox countries protesting against refugees
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>>81165700

No love leads to anger against any person
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>>81165994
>punishments for following his chosen people command

because fuck logic right?
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>>81151817
Amen
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>>81151817
>practicing Theophagy
>calling others savages
Pick one, jewish cuck.
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>>81166030

A Christian literally believes Christ is God

There are hardly any more of these around
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>>81166171
So why should we kill people who endanger us?
If we are not angry against them?
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>>81166067
t. >>81155353
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>>81166089
Yes, and all of the christians are VERY anti-immigration and anti-Islam. Oh, wait they're not, because they're a bunch of cucks.

>>81166499
People not being retarded is not a bad thing.
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>>81165291
I think you're getting at one of the key differences between the Western half of the Roman Empire and the Eastern Half. Here in the West, government and religion are two different things.

Government is something that man does, and man always makes mistakes, so we have systems to try to find good leaders and replace bad ones.

Religion is a matter of God, who is perfect. But God isn't here to act as dictator, so we're stuck with God as our inspiration and government as our day to day implementation.
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>>81151817
>human sacrifice

Do Christians even understand their own religion?
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>>81152014
they sstill had religon
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>>81166537

In self-defence. Out of love for them and us, to keep us separate when it would lead to more pain if we were mixed up
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>>81166666

Whatever you say satan
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>>81151817
I agree, but modern christianity is cucked beyond belief
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>>81151817
>Rome
>savage woodniggers

Keep dreaming christfag
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>>81166768
Yes

But by that you are saying that there are no people who represent devinity on earth (witch is partly correct, if someone acts perfectly [just for a moment] they do represent devinity).
So fuck the pope, right? And Burn churches!
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>call the Pope out on his muslim-loving bullshit
>>implying catholics are christians
CHRISTKEKS WILL RESORT TO THE SAME TACTICS AS MUDSLIMES TOP KEK
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>>81167726
Fuck the current pope, yes. But the pope technically isn't much more than the CEO of the church. And historically he functioned as the counterbalance to the emperor so that neither one ideally would get totally out of control.

I only see the clergy as administrators and teachers. The church, as another institution of man, is necessarily imperfect. I should therefore be held in check, but burning it down is silly.
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>>81152456
>Romans Greeks Egyptians
>not white


WE
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>>81166666
Checked, wasted quints, kill yourself
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>>81152568
He is a nigger

He basically believes Romans Greeks and Egyptians WUZ KANGS
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>>81167058
yes in self-defence. But I am also angry if someone hurts my relatives. I get angry, witch is a natural reflex, then I harm the attackers because of love towards my relatives.
Anger because of love.

>>81166666
nice quints
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>>81168365

Yes every great people ever was white

White barbarians didn't invade, rape, pillage, murder and ruin the Christian Roman Empire
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>>81168976

Never hate a single human being. Hate what he has become and change it

Be angry at sin, not at the man
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>>81169053
>White barbarians didn't invade, rape, pillage, murder and ruin the Christian Roman Empire
Great comeuppance to christcucks desu
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>>81168365
WUZ
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>>81169474
JESUS N SHEEEIT
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>>81151817
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>>81168254
Why do we have a spiritual instituation by man?
I mean ok, get another power for dualism with the Führer. But by your post before a spiritual human organization doesnt make sense. Speaking of power, not teachings. I support the idea of shamans, totaly correct. Some people are spiritually higher then others.
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>>81169371
What is about natural enemies?
What about niggers?
What about kikes?

If we all would become friends there would be overpopulation and degeneration in notime.
Fighting is an essential part of nature.
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>>81151817
This. We owe everything to Jesus.
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>With Christ, Europe is nothing.

You can say that again.
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>>81169444

No man deserved the horror that those White savages have inflicted on the Roman Empire

And revenge is for animals
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>>81151817
>>81152821
>tree worshipping
What?

also lol captcha
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>it's a Christianity vs Paganism thread
God damn it can't we fight about this after we get rid of the mooslems and niggers from Europe?
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>>81170316

We must all fight the evil within us and within others

And we can only be friends in Christ

All outside Christ are enemies. And one must love them and covert them
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>>81170904

>*convert them
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>>81169739
>Why do we have a spiritual instituation by man?
Because it takes one man to teach another. And if you want to do that effectively then you need an organization.

Ever heard of a school?

The idea of shamans is a good one in abstract. It's pretty common in my experience for people to gravitate toward priests that are operating at a higher level.
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>>81169053
Yeah nigga and jezuz WUZ a black man. He brung civilization to da white bois. Don't you know dat Romans and Greeks and Egyptians wuz black?
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>>81170638
I dont try to fight here.
I acctually intend to find similaritys to have a more solid aliance.
I want to understand why christians believe what they do, since I know christianity I reject the idea that all these people are that stuipid, to this day I think that I am missing something. I will never ever drop my nature faith though.
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>>81151817
I live in an area where Pagans and pre-reformed Christians still exist.
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>>81170904
>enemies
>we must love them

KEK
U
C
K

proof that Christianity is the biggest oldest form of cuckery
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>>81168125
>Jungle monkey think Catholics and Christians are the same
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>>81171021
yes, but I was saying something else.
Why do we need a spiritual organization with power?

>>81170904
didnt you read?
>If we all would become friends there would be overpopulation and degeneration in notime.
>Fighting is an essential part of nature.
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>>81171389

Loving your enemies is praying for them that their hurt may be turned towards Christ

While they are possessed by evil, one should not be around them
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>>81171836

their heart*
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>>81171828
>Why do we need a spiritual organization with power?
I guess I don't understand your question. Maybe the other dude can see what you're getting at and give you a more useful answer.
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>>81171375
Are you talking about this crazy vilages where they have one policeman and everyone owns an unregistered weapon and there is basicly tribalism?

Or just a village with a high percentage of cтapoвepы?
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>>81171828

>Fighting is an essential part of nature.

So is homosexuality, savagery, promiscuity and every barbarian thing since the Stone Age
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Christianity made us what we are now. Weak pussies.
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>>81172218
A school for example, has no political power or any kind of power.
Why does the church have any?
If its just a teaching instituation.
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>>81172721

Before Christianity almost all White peoples were barbarians
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>>81172447
homosexuals were executed by pagans.

you dont have a rational point here.

>>81172721
nice pic, safed
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>>81172770
Oh. Well a church fundamentally has political power because it influences how people think. You pointed this out previously. I don't think a church should have any direct role in the government, though. That's the key split in the West.

Many regard Islam as fundamentally a political movement that happens to use an ideology as a means to an end. Some say the same of Christianity. The stories about the Jews show repeatedly that they exercised political power to the point in the name of their religion.
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>>81173374

You're still on the whole just stuck in the Stone Age
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>>81151817

IT WASN'T EUROPEAN PEOPLE

IT WAS AN INVISIBLE JEWISH DEITY

THANK YOU JEWS FOR MAKING EUROPE GREAT

T. CHRISTKEK
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>>81172968
So you imply we wouldn't have evolved as a civilization IF NOT THE DEAD JEW ON A STICK?

FUCKING COME ONNNNNN
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>>81174489

How would you have gotten out of the stone age without Christ?
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>>81156673
Always wanted a sutton hoo helmet...
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>>81173552
well yes.
But the church had a quite direct role in politics, if we look at the times all christians on /pol/ stroke their dicks on.

Conclusion: Church back then was bad because it was political
church now is cucked and is bad because of that?

So when was the point where it was good?

you didnt give me a reason to not burn churches yet.

>>81173734
still not an argument
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>>81151817

>Human sacrifice

Now listen here, just because scandinavians were snowniggers doesn't mean we were also
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>>81171557

This.
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>>81175061
this christcuck anglo is retarded
he really thinks religion is somehow magically connected to the progress of technology
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>>81156807

>Not worshiping Satan

It's like you're a faggot or something. Do you want me to rape you in the end of days?
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>>81175314
I am acctually trying to understand those people brother.
would you mind to stop meming?
but here is a meme I made today
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>>81164964

It's hard to burn down stone, anon. Once they have enough explosives, they'll do our jobs for us.
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>>81175061
Churches provide the infrastructure to teach, grow, and minister to the followers. They also provide an alternative side of life to the power of government, be that through asylum laws, alternative wealth distributions, like-minded people to meet and discuss, guide on morally vague issues like whether two guys counts as a "marriage" or whether or not the citizenry should petition the government to make a law that says it's ok to suck off a dog as long as you don't put your penis in it.

Historically, churches also functioned as venues for the preservation and growth of learning, art, and science. Why burn them? If there are specific problems (corruption, abusing children, etc.), then correct those problems.
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>>81175373

in revelations satan is raped to the lowest pits of hell for all eternity

so good game
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>>81164964
pagans see Islam as the bigger danger.
Christianity used to have more influence and its the cult that destroyed Europe. Islam is just about to do so, so now we hate islam more
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>>81158622
cringe
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>>81176456
>alternative to the goverment
but that would be an institution with power...
everthing else is correct though. But now we have the problem with the bad teachings and their results. See the british guy who believes in peace.
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>>81176456
>alternative to the goverment
but that would be an institution with power...
everthing else is correct though. But now we have the problem with the bad teachings and their results. See the british guy who believes in peace.

>>81176880
what!? That doesnt base on anything and there for cant even be funny to christians.
>>
please do not feed the troll
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>>81177643
All organizations of men, whether we give them names like church or government, or whether it's just the local club of influential people having dinner, have power. That's not avoidable.

Toxic teachings? That's a problem. But you'll have toxic teachings with or without a church. That requires a different approach to fix. Governments often use counter intelligence agencies for this purpose. Corporations use things like media. Banks use things like loans. etc. etc.
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>>81151817
>human sacrifice
Jesus Christ was sacrificed
>tree worshiping
Wrong, they didn't worship trees, they had sacred trees in sacred groves. The groves were used as cemeteries, and the trees planted there were sacred because they knew the bodies of their ancestors would be taken into the trees.
Jesus worshiped in a garden grove of trees called the Garden of Gethsemene, on the Mount of Olives (mark 14:26 john 18:2 mark 14:32)
Abraham planted a tree to call upon the everlasting God" (Genenis 21:33)
Trees under the Melchizedek priesthood were representative of the righteous family trees of men whose planting was of the lord (isaiah 61:2) trees planted by water (psalm 1:3) and eventually became representative of the garden of the Kingdom of God itself (Luke 13:18-19)
>Excerpts taken from Pagan Bible Believers 2005
>mud huts
The Germanic Tribes and Nordic peoples lived in wooden long houses with hearthfires, tables, chairs, chandeliers, etc. The mudhut meme is a myth based on Wattle and Daub cottages featured in this pic,
The Germanic Tribes had their own Governments and Law, in fact their Laws are what formed into what we use today in American law and call "Common Law", dating through England back to the Pagan Kings who invoked their divine rights from Wooden the Pagan God.
Europeans are not lost sheep from the house of Israel, they are Gentiles of the Heathen Nations, Jesus Christ wants nothing to do with you anyway. You aren't even supposed to "Observe the Law" of the bible at all.
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>>81169713
my ancient dacian ancestors EXTERMINATED the giants. all of them. that was before you stinky hun inbreeds came to pannonia. you weren't even a nation while we wuz jotunslayers
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>>81151817
I miss tree worship.
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Christianity will die.
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>>81178372
true

So why dont we have pagan shamans or elders, no restriction rules that lead to strange thoughts or child molesting. They are just talking about spirituality.
Whilst schools can provide the teaching. However these teachings must have scientific evidence.
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>>81179705
>How to get people to post pagan memes
>trigger them
safed :^)
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>>81180282
That's pretty close to how it's supposed to work in the US.

Want to be a pagan and consult your shaman and not break the law? Go for it.

Main difference is what goes into schools. That's supposed to be reasonable by having each locality control the public schools for its own children, and for parents to have the option of sending their children to private schools if they don't like the public ones.

I personally see science as another ideology like a religion. Look how you can control perception and thought by controlling wikipedia. But if some school wants to define a standard for scientific evidence then I think that should be allowed.
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>>81180763
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>>81181529
I can totally agree. You see paganism as one of the religions. I see it as the only one, I dont tolerate anything else.

>science is an ideology
YES, today, totaly
but it can be objective
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>>81168365
and the Persians made monotheism in the first place before they were messed up by the arabs
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>>81172364
No, they're civilised people. One Russian cтapooбpядчecкaя village and two or three Chuvash villages with old people believing in Paganism. There were Russian Pagans somewhere, maybe they all moved already. Mari living next to us have Pagans too.
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>>81182884
That feels so good that these are exactly my conclusions and exactly the way I pray. Ofc I was reading pagan and especially satanic texts, but there was a lot of personal thought involved.

Hail the Gods brother!
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>>81182901
>I see it as the only one
Well, whatever your belief system is, that's part of what defines a culture. And I think the definition of a nation is something like borders, language, and culture. In the US, a stronger part of our culture is religious tolerance (one of the reasons people came here in the first place) but I do believe that it's best to at least have compatible religions.

For instance Mormons are kind of weird when you get deep in to it, but they're still really good Christians on a day to day basis, and most of them are in or near Utah anyway so who cares?

I was reading a little bit about the "Blood and Soil" idea, and I think there's a lot of good there in terms of keeping the people all culturally aligned.
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>>81183525
Sounds nice, can you give me the coordinates of that place? Maybe that was close to where I was born. https://www.google.de/maps/place/Syktywkar,+Republik+Komi,+Russland/@61.7395401,50.6789647,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4409d5869da690ff:0x587b38d534ce298a!8m2!3d61.6478508!4d50.8339029?hl=de


>>81184341
that is why I never could live in Murica c; , but I hope you enjoy yourself.
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>>81152821
>kill science
No other institution in the history of the world has done more to advance scientific studies and progress than the Catholic Church.

>kill europians
You mean the various nations began warring and murdering each other, right? The fact that they shared a religion doesn't make religion the root cause of the bloodshed.

>kill europian culture
European culture IS christian culture faggot. Almost every major work of art, architecture, literature, philosophy, science, theology, and music was created by a religious individual prior to the Enlightenment (and even past the enlightenment and well on into the modern era)
>blood sacafice
WTF?

>kill hygine
WTF?

Also, learn to spell you Kraut faggot. You Kraut's have done everything in your power to destroy western Culture. The Reformation literally tore the spiritual and cultural center of Europe apart, paving the way for all the multi-cultural, progressive bullshit that's killing western civilization today. Then you gave us Marx, that eternal faggot who's bullshit economic philosophy has been responsible for the destruction of millions of lives and hundreds of cultures. Then Nietzsche, the retarded, emotionally unhinged and totally illogical 'philosopher', who paved the way for the laughable New Atheism movement and the rise of moral relativism.

Fuck you krauts and everything you stand for. You're getting everything you deserve with all your rapefugees.
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>>81183896

Hail all the Gods,
Hail all the Goddesses,
Hail all the Holy Ones,
We dwell together.

Powers of the sky,
Powers of sacred earth.
Powers of the underworld,
We dwell together.

Hail all the Gods!
Hail all the Goddesses!
Hail all the Gods and Goddesses
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>>81154975
Yeah because being cursed to rot in the abyss then go burn your ass for eternity is no form of punishment at all
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>Jews did 911. Not in collusion with the Al Qaeda, but using them as a patsy. Israel secretly piggybacking on top of the Al Qaeda plot.

>Al Qaeda had a plot to use aircraft to crash into the WTC.

>Mossad finds out about the al-Qaeda plot but does nothing to stop it. Does not tell the US about the impending attack.

>Mossad demolition experts lay explosive charges within the WTC buildings.

>When planes hit, after an interval of time, Mossad remotely triggers the charges it placed in the towers.

>America rightly blames Al Qaeda, though most non-Jewish leaders do not know enough to blame Israel for the lion's share of the destruction.

>America is red hot furious at Israel's middle eastern enemies and spends 15 years and incurs crippling debt to fight Israel's enemies.

>Israel is happy because America mobilizes to attack their enemies.

>People that Israel sent to film the destruction of the towers are captured. Then mysteriously released.

>Cui Bono? Who Benefited from WTC going down?

>Israel benefited.

>And they benefited to the tune of trillions of US dollars and thousands of US lives.
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>>81179705
You are not amusing John
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>>81185757
No, it's Chuvash republic.
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