Why are normies so captivated by the idea of karma?
Is this crude form of philosophy the only kind that they can wrap their minds around or what?
I see it get mentioned a lot, and they always seem so conceited and proud about it.
It really annoys me.
>>80863328
Because like most they dont think they are in control of their own destiny, and they think they have to pay back their mortgage.
And they are wrong on both counts.
>>80863425
Fuck yourself, Klaus.
It's nice to think that bad people always get what's coming to them. They don't. If they did, Stalin wouldn't have died in bed and Hillary Clinton would be in jail.
>>80863512
>everything happens for a reason, anon
It's the easiest sort of way to justify their moral code, and no matter how they view something, or how they view someone elses morals, they can always find comfort in "karma coming back to bite them in the ass".
In short it's just a coping mechanism, yes.
>>80863328
It's a convenient way to think that bad people will be punished without them having to do anything, and that they themselves will generally be happy and successful without having to put forth too much effort.
You don't have to do shit to get what you want and make the changes you want to see in the world. An invisible, all powerful cosmic force with a human sense of morality that is the same as yours will take care of it all.
>>80863328
>>80863543
>>80863791
Why does my id change every time I post?
>>80863328
"I'm spiritual but not religious"
>>80863328
you don't even know what karma is, let alone be able to denounce it, you stinking semitic kike
>>80863328
your pic is a scientologist. He isnt normal. He is a crazy freak.
>>80864410
>tfw been on 4chan since 2007
>this is the first time I've ever been called a Juden
>not even a kike
>>80864410
He obviously means the whitewashed american mainstream definition of "karma" as evidenced by his picture. Or have you never seen my name is earl you fucking faggot?
>>80864586
>trust me i'm an oldfag
>switched proxies too early
sure juden
>>80864549
>implying I give a shit what some fucking guy that plays make believe and dress up for a living does or believes in
>>80864549
Its from an american tv shoe hes on you stupid nigger
>>80864812
>says a tripfag
But honestly, why us my IP changing like that?
Is it because I'm on my 4G?
>>80863898
>>80864743
>incompetent asshat
just stop it juden
>>80864410
>>80864743
>implying it's any different with asian hippies than western people
>>80864945
>says a tripfag
>>shill instruction manual fails again
care to define karma or just shill your shitty tactics?
For most people, the idea that psychopaths dictate evertything from the top down is impossible to entertain - and if it is true, then they can believe that they will be punished 'down the line' up to and including the next life. This line of thinking has kept the population obedient since time immemorial.
>>80864895
he is a scientologist. but please give excuses why he isnt bat shit crazy. lord xenos will reward you.
>>80865013
>>80865055
>care to define karma?
>>80863328
I don't know, but the people I know who talk the most about karma are the people who wrong others more often than everyone else. Its like they feel justified because the people they're fucking over "deserve it"
>>80863328
I like Earl
He dindu nuffin
Tryin to get his life on track
>>80865230
Use Google yourself faggot
>>80865351
i'm not asking for me, juden: i know. it's you and the other Semites who are ignorant and are unable to even define karma - let alone denounce it >>80864410
>>80863328
Most people don't actually know what karma is extensively and I seriously doubt you do either
It's not some sorta system of justice built into the universe, it's a natural law of cause effect. There's no godly judge that says an object will fall once dropped, it's simply gravity. Likewise if you're a hateful person you will experience a life of hate.
>>80865230
It's a belief system where people think good deeds will be rewarded and bad deeds will be punished, optionally they can believe in reincarnation based on bad/good karma. You have to be a massive faggot, if you think believing that is somehow more acceptable for Asian monk than some hippie in San Francisco.
>>80865710
THANK YOU
THIS GUY FUCKING GETS IT
It's not some mystical force that punishes and rewards people, it's the NATURE of your actions and it's effects will inevitably come back with something negative/positive to you. Even if it's purely something emotional.
>>80865795
>It's a belief system
no it isn't
कर्म karma simply means action
>people think good deeds will be rewarded and bad deeds will be punished
there is no objective good or bad
>You have to be a massive faggot
and a crude Semite, too
>>80865710
>>80865996
>LOOK AT ME 4CHANS
>I KNOW MADE UP SHIT BETTER THAN THE REST OF YOU
>>80866197
You can understand something fictious better than someone else anon. It's literally not a hard thing to understand.
But Karma isn't even "bullshit". Karma is evident in every day life.
Do something wrong and the consequences of that wrong is the "karma", right there in the flesh.
Karma is literally just "consequence" when the consequence seems disconnected.
>>80866111
objective good and bad do exist, but the situation where the use of that objective mean to what the situation ends in is what you must think about. ex: thou shalt not murder, not, thou shalt not kill. you may definitely kill those who try to kill you, but being an aggressor makes you objectively wrong.
>>80863328
Because it was a damn good show.
>>80866468
>objective good and bad do exist
where? based on your Semitic Hebrew Bible -
>ex: thou shalt not murder, not, thou shalt not kill
silly juden
>being an aggressor makes you objectively wrong
says who? YHWH/Jehovah? the false prophet Jesus The Swindling Kike?
>>80866441
people use "karma" as an expression. when they say "thats karma" they are not talking about the religion. so correcting them is kinda moot.
>>80866111
So what is the point of even hyping it, if it's only a basic word or phrase. Kind of close to "do to others as you would have them do to you", there's no supernatural law forcing that either, but it implies the same thing.
>there is no objective good or bad
Sure there is, nobody in their right mind can think going to murder other people isn't objectively bad. Or that keeping the door open for someone isn't objectively good.
>>80866738
People who have never even seen the Bible or other religious texts don't look very kindly to people who murder their entire village. Bringing that up is not even an argument.
>>80866803
But I'm agreeing with you anon.
I'm not referring to Karma in the reincarnation sense, I'm referring to it in the every day life sense.
People tend to think of Karma as some vague mystical force that punishes and rewards, when it's really just another way of saying "consequence".
However, it's only considered karma when the consequence is seemingly disconnected.
For example, you steal and get caught. It's just consequence.
You steal and days later, someone steals from you, it's considered Karma.
realistically, his actions more than likely are what led to him being in the circumstance of himself getting robbed.
>>80866956
>So what is the point of even hyping it, if it's only a basic word or phrase
how do you define action? at what point do "you" act or decide to act? where do you act? on whom do you act?
>nobody in their right mind can think going to murder other people isn't objectively bad. Or that keeping the door open for someone isn't objectively good.
why not? what makes people "in their right mind"? i can do whatever i want and there is nothing and nobody stopping me
>>80863328
It's the laziest form of getting justice without having to do anything, or so they believe.
>>80865795
You just proved the meme "whitewashed" with that post, you fucking mongrel.
>>80867160
>People who have never even seen the Bible or other religious texts don't look very kindly to people who murder their entire village.
doesn't make it inherently good or bad
it's just a position - a stance - taken
>>80867225
>>80863328
Karma is spiritual money changing. Obviously invented by jews to infiltrate eastern cultures.
>>80867225
Action is anything anyone does.
If you go on a rampage you may succesfully kill a few people, but unless you manage to escape, people will either kill you for revenge or lock you in prison because what you did was objectively wrong. Most people definately are capable of doing wrong, that's not even an achievement and nothing worth bragging about, trying to justify it only to yourself is your subjective thought to protect yourself and has nothing to do with objectivity.
>>80867909
>what you did was objectively wrong
what are you basing that on?
>>80863512
Quite the contrary. Most people who believe in karma do think they're in control of their own destiny.
The truth is most of us are not in control especially if we were born with the wrong looks, skin color, height, sexual orientation, or mental illness.
>>80868060
People don't want to get murdered so it's only natural they would think murdering others is equally wrong from an objective point of view.
>>80863328
Karma is just the effect that if you act horrible you will have a horrible life due to being all alone with horrible people like you.
If you act decently and are a good person you will connect with good people better which will make your life better.
>>80868539
>natural they would think murdering others is equally wrong
so because you have a thought that makes it correct
>from an objective point of view
?
>>80868446
>especially if we were born with the wrong looks, skin color, height, sexual orientation, or mental illness
all of those are directly a result of past life karma though, which you were previously in control of
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With so much evil in the world, it's comforting to think that people will eventually get what they deserve. Good people who go unrecognized get rewarded at some point, and those who harm and manipulate others get punished. Obviously this rarely actually happens (look at Soros or Clinton), but it's a nice thought.
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My name is Earl.
Dunna deow de neow
Karma is nu-age pseudo-holistic bullshit that comes with a Walmart price tag on it.
Subhumans literally believe cause and effect is cosmic magic dealing out judgment, all so they can tick off the "Spiritual" box on dating sites. It's more fashionable than, say, stopping to consider for a moment of your actions might have certain consequences.
Nevermind bad things happening to good people, or good things happening to bad people; they're just "waiting for Karma© to catch up with them." It's not as though good people sometimes make poor decisions, bad people make wise ones, or that there's anything like chance in the universe. It's all Karma.
>>80863328
It's a way to cope with how shitty reality is. In reality, bad guys get the rewards and 'good' guys get a bone if they're lucky.
>>80863328
They want to believe that the people that wronged them will always get fucked over later on. I believe in cosequences but people just call consequences karma.
>>80867160
So? The rivaling neighbor village might suddenly have twice the land and think it's the best thing ever.
>>80869218
again you don't seem to understand karma
see
>>80865710
Karma literally means action, it is generated directly from the result of a cause, and can be good, bad, or neutral. Karma can come to fruition immediately or may take several lifetimes.
>>80868722
Except in that case it's not my own thought. If you think that murdering you would be a bad thing, instead of a good thing - then objectively thinking, (this means forgetting about how highly you subjectively think of yourself) a logical follow up would be to think, that murdering all people is equally wrong.
>>80869855
>it's not my own thought
whose thoughts are you experiencing?
>>80863328
Because truths don't stop being truths just because they are hidden or forgotten. This is a big picture idea of how reality works.
>>80869780
Yes but that is still subjectively defined good. Would be probably practical for them so they wouldn't care, I wouldn't care. But that's not an argument against objectively good/bad deeds.
>>80870190
It was an example of objectivity.
>>80870506
how is that an example of objectivity?
an example of objectivity would be to assert that there exists an intrinsic being whose will is absolute
>>80863328
Leftists are disdainful of Christianity, so they latch-on to foreign religions as a way to fill their spiritual void.
Many leftist types latched-on to Bhuddism since the Beatles popularized the trend back in the '60s. It's ironic though, because many Bhuddists today are vehemently anti-Muslim and pro-nationalism. The "Western" liberal version of Bhuddism that many Californian faggots claim to follow is just a bastardized version.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/31/dalai-lama-eu-taking-many-migrants-germany-cannot-become-arab-country/
>>80870814
fuck, I spelled Buddhism wrong
>>80863328
It's because they don't believe in Christianity, but need some reason to do good things, so they crudely rip off a part of a different religion.
>>80870741
If you're physically unable to understand the meaning of objective and subjective I can't help you.
>>80870969
you haven't provided any definition of what an objective fact is beyond your logical fallacy of presupposing a judgement based on an outlook upon another person >>80869855
all that is is your own thinking
there is nothing objective about that
it is you who needs help
>>80863328
Normies don't even get karma. They're idiots.
Karma is basically what you do leading to a result.
If I decide to get up and make myself a sandwich that's my karma. That's karma.
>>80863328
Because believing in God isn't cool, but normies still want to seem deep and spiritual while at the same time giving themselves a force to blame for their misfortunes, and Karma gives them the ability to have their cake and eat it too
It also let's them smugly think that anyone who they think poorly of will eventually get their just deserts
funny how these normies who consider themselves good moral people believe in a concept that was invented by indian slavers as a tool to keep the low caste masses obedient and content with their animalistic street shitting lifestyle
>>80870814
All buddhists are.
Tibetan buddhism is shit. But even they think the state should be a totalitarian dictatorship, for the good of the people. As any enlightened would.
>>80871762
>>80863328
its gay form of compensation faggots like to think exists when bad things happen to them and they blame it on people who are supposedly "bad" and will "get whats comin to em".
I act like the biggest prick, screw everyone over, swindle, lie, cheat, and let me tell you it has done nothing but make my life better. Its the way the world works but some people just can't have that and need their heavy does of egalitarianism. Never ever put your faith in someone that believes in Karma. Stupid, stupid people.
>>80872738
Buddhism is gay? How?
Tibet was a totalitarian ethnocentric dictatorship before china took over.
>>80863328
Karma is the only logical explanation to life.
some of you asked why Hillary is not in prison.
it's because there's no such thing as instant karma. you pay for your deeds in your next life.
>>80873347
I said Karma is gay. Not Buddhism. And when I say Karma is gay I mean the pretentious normalshit "you'll get whats coming to you" Karma that everyone talks about. As for the Buddhist definition I'm sure its something entirely different but I don't care enough to look it up. I do know that whatever Karma is, my view of it has been warped by idiots and I've developed massive disdain for it.
>>80863328
Hey Earl!
>>80863328
>beliving in some sort of an universal power that pays back what you gave out all your life
>some faggot on a cloud
If you can't grasp the idea i don't even know how you could understand religion in the first place
>inb4 500generations of trans lesbian papst
This thought is the basic of religion
Thinking outside the box and just question live in general
Did i do good today? Was it just good for me and bad for others? What are my consequences, no law was broken tho
Is it just your consciousness that makes you think that something like karma exists after something happened?
Is it just you who knew that his behavior was bad qnd wrong in the first place and your mind is conditioning you to stop being a cunt
T. Wageslave
Nigger wants to get philosophicall on /pol/
Kek
>>80871203
That is literally the definion of objective judgement not based on one's subjective feelings (yours in that case) I gave you.
>>80869833
I know what Karma means to the average dumb bitch from America, and that's what I'm going by. I could give a shit less about its real definition, because that's bullshit, too.
>>80874848
you are only having the thought of imagining another's situation. the thought is only yours and is not based on any objective fact. like i said here >>80868722 just because you have a thought that does not imply that it is based on anything other than your own awareness. there is no objective basis to your thoughts, irrespective of if you choose to imagine other people within your own thinking, or if you choose to believe that your thoughts are ultimately correct. they are not and there is no reason to assume that they are.
>>80863328
Ask for proof of karma if you want some incoherent babble
>>80875480
>anything i don't understand is incoherent goy babble
>>80875480
Actually there's no proof for karma, but reincarnation has been proven many times.
Just google Dalai Lama and the way they selected him
>>80873940
Karma is just the concept that the universe has a state of perfect balance, and that if you do things that move away from that state of perfect balance, the universe will try to return to that state of perfect balance. That might take eons.
Bad things happening to people who do bad things was never a part of the concept.
>>80863328
I miss Earl
>>80875598
Then prove karma exists faggot
>protip: you can't
>Karma will come back to bite x in the ass
No, no it won't.
>>80876478
do actions exist? then karma exists >>80866111
>faggot
>>80876478
I can.
If you start giving out money to niggers in welfare, thats good right?
There will be no bad consequences.
The universe won't try to return to the state of perfect balance and take away that money from those niggers in multiple forms.
Karma isn't about bad people being punished or good people being rewarded, its about the universe being in harmony.
>>80876478
there's no proof. But there's no proof that the earth isn't hollow yet we believe bcus muh scientist told us (the Mariana Trench is the deepest we got to)
some things are just too logical to not be true.
>>80876809
Yes there is. Stop being a superficial cunt. Science has plenty of evidence of what happens in the core and in the mantle.
It's simple. It's good vs. evil, like my favourite cartoons! It means I'm not being a good person for nothing, and bad people have no advantage because the universe will make it right!
Also people say crime doesn't pay while it obviously does. Surely there's plenty of drugs dealers in prison but most of 'em have a mansion and a beemer
>>80876923
The earth could be partially hollow while still producing magma and all the other stuff. stop being a sheep and think for a second. the deepest we got is 13 kilometres (Mariana Trench)
there could be anything down there and all we have are fucking theories (until someone drills down to the core)
>>80876736
Actions do not equal Karma kiddo.
Karma is a belief it's not something that can be observed and studied, like an action.
Tell your mom you wanna go back a little early this summer, get a head start.
>>80876809
This is very much so proof that the earth isn't hollow. Faggots like you just disregard the evidence because your meaningless life feels a bit more meaningful when you think you're "uncovering a conspiracy", fucking closet case.
>>80877316
>There could be air pockets in the earth
There are. Doesn't make it hollow.
We know of some. We even drilled into some to try to see if there was life there.
You scientifically illiterate shitskin.
>>80877338
>observed and studied, like an action
the action is the karma
>कर्म करोति karma karoti
>perform action
filthy semitic scum
>>80875250
My thoughts are irrelevant in that observation, stop sticking to them. If an individual thinks someone murdering him is wrong, then objectively he thinks murder is wrong. That is the concept of objectivity.
Some people can start cherry picking based on simply sentimental reasons that mudering some people is right and murdering some is wrong. That is the concept of subjectivity.
Your only argument against the former seems to be because you say so, which can be used to deny every possible thing until world's end.
>>80877717
>My thoughts are irrelevant in that observation
how can you have an observation without a thought about it?
>>80877501
just fuck off you dumb nigger, you're clearly too dumb to argue.
>>80876478
any time at all a 747 Boeing can randomly crash into your house killing you instantly with no warning given.
but it doesn't happen. Seemingly "random" people don't die by just minding their own business and then a car crashes into them or a bomb explodes/
Karmic action is a sequential chain of events that has reasonable "counterplay"
you dont just randomly die out of nowhere. It happens for a reason, whatever it may be
>>80876736
Slapping an Eastern mystic term on something that already exists doesn't validate the belief system the term came from. It's more made-up dumb shit, they just stuck it with a component of common sense to dupe idiots into giving it credibility. Basically dianetics for vegan douchebags and divorced middle-aged whores. All adherents to the word "karma" are mouthbreathing dipshits who can't start their day until they read their horoscope out of a celebrity tabloid.
>>80878168
>>80876809
>>80876736
Holy fuck this is gold
>>80878296
>ITT: Tripfag can't refute common sense, attempts to meme his way out of rektdom.
Moving on, then.
>>80878168
you need many lifecycles to reach enlightenment. you can't just ascent right into higher planes where.
you sir, you'll be reborn a thousand times
>>80878509
>>80878428
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
No it isn't.
>>80878572
>enlightenment
>higher planes
>reincarnation
Look up zen buddhism. You've been duped.
>>80878943
what about the numerous accounts of children remembering their previous lives and their death?
a journalist trying to debunk it started collecting data and became a believer. forgot his name
>>80863328
Why do you assholes pray to a cartoon frog and think duplicating numbers have magical properties?
>>80879440
he's an Aryan frog
>>80879440
Oh, Cilve, ya got me there!
Also
>check em!
Better than dubs!
I don't know but it leads normies to make decisions that will ultimately hurt more people
Like that cuck Bill Gates feeding everyone in Africa causing a billion person population boom - I wonder how that will work out. Better keep feeding them for dat karma!
>>80866111
People believe in Karma and in a cycle of action.
It is a belief system.
It took hold because "God is dead" took hold, it is the cowards religion and the religion of ignorant.
If enlightenment came from the self then the very stones would be telling us of their wisdom.
The Stones are silent.
>there is no objective good and bad
Prove it.
At best you can defend an appeal to mutual ignorance.
>>80879302
>a lefty journalist believe it, it must be true
i'm from a buddhist family. my mother was the first buddhist monk in brazil
i grew up building temples all over brazil.
I lived in pico de raios for 10 years.
Just read a bit about zen buddhism, it won't kill you.
But there is no reincarnation, there are no other planes, there is nothing supernatural in this universe.
The universe does, however, have a balance that it drifts towards. Thats not supernatural, just an equilibrium of forces. Harmony.
>>80867340
>doesn't make it inherently good or bad
>it's just a position - a stance - taken
prove it.
Prove that such does not make it inherently good or bad, or that they are not accessing such forms as The Good.
You might as for evidence of the The Good, the heart has its own logical proofs, proofs which the mind can not comprehend and which the mind is itself contingent upon to receive its own logical forms.
For instance, the law of non-contradiction is not founded upon principles of the rational mind, it is the foundation for the principles of the rational mind.
Such a law is written on the hearts of men.
The same applies to the Moral law.
Consider that you yourself might just be objectively wrong.
>>80880428
>The universe does, however, have a balance that it drifts towards. Thats not supernatural, just an equilibrium of forces. Harmony.
prove it.
In this instance, physics literally proves such a claim wrong.
At least in terms of the material, which you did say that there is only the material, if there is more than the material then the supernatural exists.
>>80863328
Fuck off.if youre not a "normie" then you must be some half assed scholarly neet.just go die faggot.
>>80880428
I'm going to read about zen buddhism, promise.
>there is nothing supernatural in this universe
I'm sorry but that is bullshit. I saw a ghost when I was 12 or so. It talked to me. I vividly remember every second of that encounter. I'm 34 and the memory stlll haunts me from time to time.
It knew my name.
That moment changed my life forever. I know one thing for sure. Ghosts exist, and theres nothing in this life that can change my mind. I saw it with my two fucking eyes.
I wish I didn't ran away. It wanted to tell me something. regret it to this day. but that thing looked like...the creepiest hollywood shit you could imagine.
fuck that. fuck atheists. I know what I saw, that thing was from another plane
>>80881439
Lets suppose that you did.
Then ghosts exist. Then ghosts are natural. There must be some energy or particle that they are made of.
You are missing the point entirely.
>>80863328
its a side effect of low IQ solipsism. The fact is that sometimes, evil people do not get punished. And good people do not get rewarded.
>>80863328
Karma is a variation of the just world phenomenon.
Some believe in an all powerful sky king deciding good and evil.
Some believe in an unconscious force in control of good and evil.
The world is full of crazy people controlled by reptilian aliens.
opinion validation
>>80881630
Yes I did, I wish I didn't so I could have lived a normie life. but that thing was real.
no particle, only energy. some kind of residual energy, or perhaps otherwordly energy.
and yes, I understand where you're coming from, but I wouldn't call ghosts part of nature.
>this thread now
>>80880417
>>80880698
>>80882342
remember that karma is not atheist
>>80863328
Superstition. If you are bad, it will bite you in the ass. There are no atheists in the foxhole of life. Our own terror of the unknown always wins in the end.
t. Not religious guy but superstitious as fuck
>>80883343
never thoght it was atheist, but thanks for the text.
>>80880417
>the very stones would be telling us of their wisdom
wise words, but the human soul is much more complex than a stone. Stones have no feelings, and they are indifferent to the universe. you can just ascend from lifeless matter. there must be a starting point, like the human spirit in is very primitive form.
>>80863328
i dont believe in karma really, its more of just that if youre a decent person, you feel bad for things you've done. It ends up affecting you even if you never think about, makes you angrier, depressed, maybe your life harder or makes you colder. Which invites negativity and other bad shit into your life, pain and death.
Total sociopaths dont believe or care about karma, so it doesnt effect them. If you feel your evil is justified there will likely be no sort of "karma" revenge because you won't even consider that.
t. maximum security ex con
The normies are not enlightened enough as the true sons of kek are and have only a crude, unrefined vision of keks image in the form of "karma".
In fact karma is not only a less refined version of kek, it is a direct contradiction of kek and a blaspheme on kek's name.
>>80884223
*can't just ascend
>>80863328
Much like religion, it is a comfort for those who fail to live a fulfilling life.
>Even though that really sucked for me and that person got no repercussions, I'm SURE he's got it coming for him! Plus, I'll probably win the lottery or go to heaven! And that nasty person who cut in line is going to burn in hell!
