I am a white American economist for a major financial institution who is reaching the end of a stint doing in-depth, long-term research on the Japanese economy.
The major question I was sent to answer: Scare-mongering stories about how it is on the verge of collapse have been a staple of the financial press for almost 25 years now, so why is Japan still Japan? For example, it has:
-The lowest unemployment rate of the G-7 nations
-A large, fairly secure and functional middle class
-A clean, orderly, and attractive social infrastructure.
-Yes, the trains run on time Mr. Mussolini.
-Still the planet's third-largest economy by a wide margin despite the suppsed "depopulatiopn issue" (which I believe to be a non-issue, for reasons I can dilate on later if anyone is interested but about which I won't bother getting off track on here).
The results of my research: I have come to the conclusion that the Japanese economy is not in particular danger, unless at some future date, somebody or somebodys (probably educated and groomed abroad) makes the quite unnecessary and highly irrational decision to throw open the nation to plunder by outsiders.
After careful consideration, I have come to a conclusion regarding the reason reality is not tallying with the narrative being promulgated by the press, financial academia, and non-Japanese corporate philosophy. The flaw lies not with Japan but with neoclassical economics, which is a deeply damaged and compromised economic model, if it can even still be called a coherent model. Damaged to the core as well as on so many other levels, I don't know where to begin.
[Con't below]
To understand how Japan can go on (and, maybe, to find a way forward for the rest of us), we need to look briefly at history. In the late 1900s, there was a great deal of debate in Japan and elswhere over whether they should adopt the "Prussian" or "Anglo-American" model of capitalism. This is a very complex topic here and I'm not going to go into the nuances of it, but essentially Japan chose the Prussian model while paying lipservice to the Anglo-American model. They are both sub-systems of capitalism, and therefore similar enough that this type of subterfuge can be carried out.
Other factors that have contributed to a continued stable and prosperous society amid numbers that would cause chaos elsewhere include lack of diversity and the implicit understandings that pervade society on an almost eerie, psychic-like level. This makes for a bedrock of stability and cooperation that is simply not possible in a more "diverse" and internally riven/competitive environment.
This is literally a land of "watch what we do, not what we say, because the two are going to be different." On one level this is obviously a bit sneaky, but when it is understood that this is a different type of norm, it ceases to be "deception" and becomes an important stategic asset. After all, secrecy and privacy is assumed in a poker game, and to use it skillfully while convincing your opponant with facial tics and the like that you have different cards is not lying: It is undertstood to be part of the game.
[Con't below]
>>71018623
you are retarded
TLDR: Japan has a neo-Prussian capitalist system filtered and interpreted through the works of the great Japanese economist Shimamura, who almost nobody in the west has ever heard of, let alone bothered to try to understand. Shimomurian economics, if we can call it that, is the beating, hidden heart of Japan. Japan has run on a modified version of Prussian-model capitalism before, during, and after WWII, and as long as it continues to do so, the millions of Western articles about the evils of the Japanese economy might make good fuel for starting the winter kindling in newspaper form, but little else.
>>71018791
cool story bro, tell us about the difference between prussian and anglo-american economic theory my dood
But surely their economy is doomed if they don't import third world workers.
>>71018791
second pearl harbor when
>>71018907
Yes. Look at how successful Sweden has become after doing this. We have absolutely no problems what so ever, everything is going great and crime has never been lower.
>>71018623
>Yes, the trains run on time Mr. Mussolini.
>tfw Japan managed to do what we should have done
>>71018907
This. Diversity is our greatest strength. One day we will become as strong as Timbuktu and Palestine through the power of diversity!
Holy shit, thats whole new level of weeabism.
Have you ascended, OP? Have you become the japanese?
>>71019237
You're an idiot.
Sounds coherent enough. Good job OP.
This won't change anything even if it's true though
>>71018623
You are aware that you committed a sin, and that you will be murdered by the jews, right ?
Save yourself, and just say Japan Need Open Borders like all others good goyim.
>>71018623
Post proof of your PhD or we don't care.
Your claim to intelligence is the exact same as saying "femanon here."
I won't hold my breah.
>>71019283
don't cry
>>71018623
You wasted 17 and a half months, the economy is stagnant and will continue to be so forever as it cannot grow anymore, also the cost of living has increased over the past 10 years but salaries have not.
The economy will continue but taxation will continue to increase, benefits will continue to decrease, and standard of living will continue to decrease.
But Japanese have no other options but to suffer and endure as they have always suffered and endured for the past 10,000 years since people first arrived on these islands.
>>71019556
Calm yourself leaf.
Calm yourself.
Now one will threaten your diversity.
Your borders will always stay completely open like ur mums anus.
Calm yourself, your multicultural paradise will be taken from you by no one.
>>71018623
>>71018704
>>71018791
ITT, We pretend to be economists who understand what's going on in zipperhead lands.
Why is depopulation a non-issue?
>>71018862
>tell us about the difference between prussian and anglo-american economic theory my dood
There are too many complexities to this question to answer in a single post but maybe the most important differences can be summarized as follows:
Anglo-American: Much more shareholder influence in setting the goals of the company. As shares are traded wildly on global markets, the owners (shareholders) have less personal connection to or even understanding of any given company. They want to maximize profitability over the shortest possible term. "Make our quartely targets now; we'll think about next year when it comes around. And fire everyone who is idle. We can re-hire replacements later if needed."
Prussian: The shareholding network is more complex and shares are traded less frequently, and the shareholders are less concerned about whipping the money into a quarterly gain if they can be convinced of the possibility of a long-term gain later. The real people who run the company and set policy day-to-day are the managers. This system incentivizes each manager to get as many workers under him as possible, as the will all owe him favors, so to speak, and increase the manager's personal power. As a result you get massive hiring, lower unemployment, a longer-term vision, and a greater sense of security among workers (even if "jobs for life" no longer exist). This fosters a more stable, middle-class-oriented society and also stimulates domestic consumption as workers feel their jobs are more secure so don't mind spending a little extra. In a feedback circle, the middle class and the managers become stronger (unless the company itself is a shit company).
>>71019872
So that's why we killed off Germany..
>neoclassical economics, which is a deeply damaged and compromised economic model
Which economic model is better to understand reality?
>>71019872
>There are too many complexities to this question to answer
Translation: "I am full of shit."
>>71019819
Because automatization reduces the need for serfs that go around tilling the soil and sweeping the streets. In fact, depopulation through reduced is a good thing because it allows the remaining population to consume more resources and have a higher living standard.
The only negative about it is that extremely retarded leftist use it as an excuse to import third world people in masse because ''lol who is going to wipe our asses and pay for our pensions?''
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN GOD DAMN PENSION YOU RETARDED FUCKING BOOMER LEFTIST! HAVING PERPETUAL POPULATION GROWTH JUST TO PAY FOR THE OLDER GENERATIONS PENSION IS NOT SUSTAINABLE! ITS A GOOD DAMN PONZI SCHEME!
>mfw
>>71019872
That's a really good system, feudalism on the level of a society.
Exploiting the natural tribalism of humans and their desire for a hierarchical structure.
I can see how it wouldn't work for a diverse society though, since loyalty is a requirement.
Based on what you know about Japan's neo-Prussian economic model, what recommendations, if any, would you give the United States on economic reforms?
literally was just reading this article in today's journal
If this doesn't soil your knickers I dunno what will
>>71019872
The FX market dwarfs Japans economy and could crush the yen if the conditions were right. The true protectors of that economy is the coordinated efforts stemming from the BIS. Get real, the entirety of our global system is managed by Basel faggots.
>>71020184
As long as affirmative action is a thing, it's probably impossible to implement in any way shape or form..
Will this research be available, in English, to the public in the future?
>>71020166
>In fact, depopulation through reduced child births*
>>71019819
>Why is depopulation a non-issue?
It's being used to try to get Japan to accept mass immigration, which would not help the county on any level, especially as jobs are projected to continue vanishing around the globe due to automation, robotization, AI, etc. Sounds like sci-fi but its happening now. You don't need a factory with ten thousand workers when you have machinery assembling cars. You don't need 100,000 surgeons when 10,000 surgeons can do telesurgery. You don't need 15 local newpapers prining the same story when everyone can read it on the net. Soon even lawyers and teachers will be on the chopping block. And note that it is not a matter of these jobs totally vanishing: Even a significant reduction in the number of necessary workers puts huge downward wage pressure on those who already have jobs.
Japan has something like 127 million people now. Tokyo has the population density of Bangladesh. In the year 1900, the population was around 90 million and they had already been running a complex civilization for millennia.
True, fewer workers means a lower tax/pension base, but there are different ways of working around these issues.
>>71018623
Why faggots always come here to Japan?
This is a good thread OP.
What is your take on the hikokimori crisis? Surely if unemployment wasn't so bad there'd be more NEETs in work.
>>71020333
Nice trips
>>71019986
They are both flawed for many reasons...neither, really, but the Anglo-American model is more suitable for the US, a resource-rich, large global hegemon, while the Prussian model better serves small, resource-poor countries who want to be capitalist and not communist, but who don't have the torque to make the Anglo-A model work perfectly.
>>71020193
Whoa momma
>>71018623
>-Yes, the trains run on time Mr. Mussolini.
If you really were an economist you would know that it is a myth that Moussolini made the trains run on time at any point in history.
>>71020184
That's a tough one. Smaller government, reduced expectations, and more isolationism come to mind. Make America Great Again,
>>71018791 op
No, TLDR, Japan doesn't play to the rules of the global elite, you think Fukushima was an accident, a coincidence, ha its punishment for not accepting the NWO. Do more research mate your hipster theories are only scratching the surface.
>>71020587
If you were really not autustic, you would understand that figures of speech don't have to be literally true to be meaningful.
>>71020637
This thread is now about women wearing only American flags.
>>71020771
>>71018623
>The results of my research: I have come to the conclusion that the Japanese economy is not in particular danger, unless at some future date, somebody or somebodys (probably educated and groomed abroad) makes the quite unnecessary and highly irrational decision to throw open the nation to plunder by outsiders.
Didn't they just decide to reverse their fiscal policy put into effect a year ago?
>>71020854
>>71020358
Personally I think that's almost more of a social issue than an economic one. We are in the middle of a sexual revoluton in the literal sense, where women are becoming more powerful and men and seeing socially meaningful roles vanish. A lot of men in many countries of the younger generation are made to feel like useless trash, so they withdraw to the cave and hermitify. This started in Japan but its all over the developed world now...
>>71020854
Find us a hot mexican chick wearing an American flag!
>>71020887
>>71019618
This.
The only way to beat economic stagnation is WAR
>>71020931
How about Casey Anthony?
>>71019069
I can almost taste the double speak and your fear
>>71020880
>Didn't they just decide to reverse their fiscal policy put into effect a year ago?
Whatch what actually happens, not what they say they do.
>>71020920
How about this?
OP over and out...will check back later.
>>71021092
>>71021092
Pretty damn good! Thanks!
>>71019872
>There are too many complexities to this question to answer
>>71021138
>a flag for ants
>>71020953
Which we cant do because of 1. The US imposed condition and 2. Our pussy politicians who won't get it changed. China is going to rape us.
>>71021101
Fuck off already with your shit
>>71021138
thumbnail fail
>>71021101
good thread man, I am always curious on how economics here have still not gone to shit after so many places saying it would go to shit at any moment because of crazy low interest rates
>>71018623
no niggers or muslims
>>71019764
UPDATE
>>71021307
>>71020637
>>71021307
>>71020637
self sufficiency is the future, or at least the way to resist the globalist economy, I you wish to start a business you should try to do so with this in mind.
Based Shimamura saving Japan.
>>71019096
i don't know where you live senpai, but we have our train arriving on time here as well
My history teacher told me that Japan is a Keynesian economy though, and that is why they don't have a large amount of wealth inequality like in countries in the Anglosphere.
>>71019635
kek
it's the fucking Muhamad, it's not like one of us went to ISIS land and came back to blow up the Bataclan, which, to be honest was a shit venue
and you know what Ahmed? Charlie was a shit newspaper
and you are shit
fucking get some soap and wash your smelly armpits
>>71019237
>somebody mentions Japan
>WEABOOO WEABOO AHHHHH
Why are you such a sperg?
I knew someone like you in school. Whenever someone would mention anything Japanese his whole body would fucking squirm like he was some retard having a stroke, and then he'd sperg out.
>>71020287
All automation will do is change what jobs need to be done.
You will need technicians to repair and maintain the new fleet of robots, programmers to write their software and much more raw materials to build them.
The market will find balance like it always has.
>>71021746
And what do you do about the people that is to simple minded to do anything else but the most basic tasks?
>>71021856
We already went through this with the industrial revolution, humans are the most adaptable creatures in existence, they will find something.
>>71021249
Negative interest rates are a symptom of something called Freigeld. German for Free money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freigeld
>>71021982
Humanity as a whole will survive, but I fear that the most individuals won't. I have no doubt that in the far future, when the population level is stabilized to the economic situation, society will be awesome. However, I can't see a near future without a more authoritarian government to keep the unemployed, moneyless masses in checked. Some form of eugenics might have to be implemented, whether mandated by the state or in cooperation with the private sector, to reduce the population.
>>71021982
>they will find something.
Like standing in an assembly line? Get real mate, you can't tell 1 billion <85 iq that has been subsistence farmers for thousands of years to just do something like learn how to program or make phone apps. There won't even be any need for drivers.
Humans are going to be what horses was after the industrial revolution.
Econ grad student here.
I'm extremely confident to say you're no economist and surely do not have any position in any large institution.
Jesus christ, someone actually takes the trouble to put some effort in a post to start a discussion and all these faggots start to chimp out over nothing.
Are people seriously just going ape-shit because japan is mentioned? So economics are controversial but the holocaust not?
>>71022516
>So economics are controversial but the holocaust not?
This is actually mostly correct.
>>71022248
Eugenics is literally funded by your government right now, all they would need to do to completely freeze population growth entirely would be to cut extra welfare for having kids.
>>71022274
You act like it will happen overnight, it will be a slow process taking at least 30 years and will give people plenty of time to adapt.
Before computers entire floors would be filled with people doing repetitive calculations, they didn't suddenly starve to death when technology advanced.
>>71022368
Have you heard of the Freigeld concept?
>>71020287
Interesting. So would you say that Japan is perhaps a case study in how a society can manage itself during a population decline?
Reading your posts it occurred to me that we always hear about the next "crisis" around the corner for Japan or "muh stagnation", yet we never hear about appreciable declines in the standard of living or convulsions of unrest. That would be consistent with a society leveraging increased productivity and automation to offset population declines.
>>71022274
so only dumb people will struggle, I'm ok with that.
>>71018623
psychedelics in that room would either be worse than a nightmare or you'd transcend into another space-time
>>71022625
>they didn't suddenly starve to death when technology advanced.
No, they just went on welfare and foodstamps. Like 25% of the US population
>>71023557
Smart white collar people don't end up on welfare unless they're at retirement age.
You especially have no reason to fear automation when your country will have a similar GDP to Cambodia by the time civilized countries are having their lives made easier by robots.
Prussia capitalism is the one they used after Napoleon fucked them up? Made it so anyone can profit from a idea to encourage competition?
>>71020193
where is america
>>71024248
owned by China
>>71024248
We don't have negative interest rates yet
>>71023986
I don't fear anything but the prospects of having 1+ million young unemployed men with low iq having their welfare cut by 50% when the financial happening eventually happens makes me a bit worried. They are all ready burning cars every week and that is when the money is flowing.
>>71018623
Firstly I wish to ask, are you able to present your report in Japanese, and either way will you present it to the DIET or whoever so Japan will stop freaking out about things?
>also obligatory what anime you like question yet if no one else
>>71022978
>Freigeld
Is this the solution to a 230% debt to GDP ratio? Would positive interest rates kill japans economy instantly at this point?
tldr your housing market is fucked
>>71024624
I guess you'd better start stocking up on guns, Sven.
>>71018907
rare flag?
too newfag to know
>>71024918
Freigeld could relegate old debts into the garbage. Currency under Freigeld wouldn't need savings incentive rates. The Euro is designed to eventually function fully as a currency like this.
>>71018706
First post best post
>>71019872
Look at how the nikkei and all other japanese stock market indices function relative to other markets. Whenever the s&p goes up or down, the nikkei goes up or down in a similar proportion. The JP stock market is just as volatile, kinda makes it seem like the jp stock holders are just as active as those of other developed markets.
Translation: "you're full of shit" senpai
>>71019618
>BUT MUH ECONOMICS PHD LOOK AT THIS GRAPH THEY
>>71020917
>>71020287
>>71019872
yeah but you forget in janpan this mean that less youth men try to make money to pay pensions for bigger and bigger old population.This too is the reason why Japanese is youth men fell for hikimori more than any country
>>71018791
>TLDR: Japan has a neo-Prussian capitalist system filtered and interpreted through the works of the great Japanese economist Shimamura, who almost nobody in the west has ever heard of, let alone bothered to try to understand. Shimomurian economics
let me stop you there
Japan succeeds because it has Japanese people
Don't get too hung up on systems
>>71025494
Dairy products have doubled in price in the last ten years, we are in the middle of a butter holocaust
>>71025160
Uncommon
>>71021746
>The market will find balance like it always has.
In what world does market balance mean increasing jobs forever? It isn't supported by any economic theory I've ever heard of.
>>71025804
*Japanese youth men
>>71018623
Wasn't Japan experimenting with negative bank interest?
What happened to that?
>>71024624
Somalia won't feel the effects of automation so neither will sweden, your country is already in its death throes. The most you could hope for is USA sending in killbots to clean up the freaks after they're done genociding every white in Sweden while the European caliphate screams not all muslims.
>>71025929
Yeah. You literally can't sustain dairy products because of geography. Dairy has a really short shelf life. I mean JP had it right in the 1930s when they realized the ONLY way they will survive is war. People think unsustainability isn't a problem immediately, but it scares investors because it may scare future investors. It's a spiral that destroys quality of life.
Unless hydroponic farms become a thing or you can move your mountains to the ocean to make arable land, you're fucked in 50 years.
>>71025997
Millions of jobs won't disappear overnight, the world will keep turning.
>>71026465
They could also let their population decrease...
>>71022625
> Before computers entire floors would be filled with people doing repetitive calculations, they didn't suddenly starve to death when technology advanced.
That's because autistic number crunchers didn't become functionally obsolete due to computers you silly goose.
>>71019069
>We have absolutely no problems what so ever, everything is going great and crime has never been lower.
>>71026611
Flooding the workforce with cheap robotic labor will do the same thing as flooding it with cheap human labor: lower wages.
The market might fix itself, but there's no guarantee it will take care of you or me. The black plague was great for laborers (who survived). Automobiles reduced the population of horses by 90%.
If the japanese economy is so great why dont they have sex there?
>>71026640
Sure that works. We'll start by limiting healthcare and investing in anime. That's kinda why i said they're fucked. Having your pool of future workers go DOWN is such a fucking retarded idea. When will they ever have the incentive to make people? If they don't now, why would they ever? In fact the world won't work either. How about we let ourselves die to like 3 billion? That's still too many, let's go to 1.5 billion. Maybe less.
If people get the idea that we are not worth making because of the economic implications, our species on this planet is finished. Millenials don't have kids for this reason. We have to fix it another way.
I don't believe you're an economist at all. No one is so stupid to think that a declining native population is a good thing.
Japan has been eclipsed by China, and it will be eclipsed by a reunified Korea.
>>71027382
This!
>>71027382
except machinery requires maintenance, upgrades and repairs, and little else. It also opens up a more competitive market for new designs in robotics and opens job positions for engineers, roboticists, etc.
Rapefugees shit up communities, commit crime, steal from the local economy, and present a bad image and you can't get rid of them because 'boohoo muh human rights'
>>71027557
>Having your pool of future workers go DOWN is such a fucking retarded idea.
Why? Invent more technology and productivity will increase even as population decreases, and the standard of living will be very high. It's only bad for the money lenders.
>>71027718
The whole fucking point of automation is that is requires less people so it costs less. A robot may need people to fix it, but not as many as it's replacing. Not everyone is smart enough to design and soder a circuit board, design a program that interacts with it, design a machine to interact with the board, and then have the marketing and sales skills to show why it does something better. Some people need retard jobs. If retard jobs go because of automation, then retards don't have money or stuff. You want millions of retards angry they don't have money or stuff?
>>71027684
>Japan has been eclipsed by China, and it will be eclipsed by a reunified Korea.
The Chingook dream.
>>71027933
Money lenders are a core staple of the economy that gets money from savers to spenders. Spenders innovate. If spenders can't get money, they can't innovate. Money lenders just will invest in another country's capital with a better rate of return and outloom. Money/captital leaving a country isn't good for it.
>>71028128
This
>>71027718
I want you to imagine you're selling a robot to a businessman. What are your selling points?
A. It's cheap, but you need to hire six people to keep it running.
B. It's expensive, but only because our company is employing a lot of people!
C. It costs as much as one worker, but does the work of two!
>>71028291
You're all Ching Chongs to me mate.
>>71028581
y-you too.
>>71028532
>Money lenders are a core staple of the economy
Good goy.
There are non-Jew options for capitalization. Like credit unions. Investment banks aren't all that great, they add a lot of instability.
>>71028861
Yes, credit unions function as a small capital lender for new innovators. You're right on that front. But overall small businesses and big businesses in Japan clearly have no need to borrow money though, since their debt to GDP is exactly where it should be. CEO of a tech company there can just go down to the credit union and take out his 150 million dollar line of credit to expand his business. Wong Ching Lee that is 62 and has 3 cats and a nice picture of them om her desk will review his credit history and ask the members what they think.
There is 127 million japs. You can do well with few million smart so imagine if that is multipled with 15
>>71030134
>You can do well with few million smart so imagine if that is multipled with 15
Wanna try again?
>>71027684
>a reunified Korea
This will never happen though.
why isnt japan more expansionist? do like the chinese in africa. it seem they dont do much overseas and only stay to themselves
>>71029886
I don't understand your point? Are you saying my single example doesn't apply to all cases? Because that's why I said "like credit unions" as in, "credit unions are a single example of a source of capital which would not leave because of depopulation." Large tech firms can sell stock.
>>71018623
Cool story bro, but BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager and is joining a $46 Billion Japan pullout
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-10/abenomics-rebuked-as-blackrock-joins-46-billion-japan-pullout
>>71021746
I'm pretty sure you don't need 20 technicians and programmers per robot, it's more like 20 technicians and programmers per factory.
Ignoring the fact not everyone has the aptitude to perform these jobs there is still going to be a massive reduction in the amount of jobs available of any kind.
>>71019872
>Prussian: The shareholding network is more complex and shares are traded less frequently, and the shareholders are less concerned about whipping the money into a quarterly gain if they can be convinced of the possibility of a long-term gain later. The real people who run the company and set policy day-to-day are the managers.
Bullshit
we know because of the konami employee leaks that this is not true and we know because of the scandal it generated that the practices konami counducts are common place in all companies
and we know because of all the weeabo who live in japan videos that the middle class barely gets enough to get by
>>71030854
Last time they did that the world got buttblasted at them
>>71020637
So you're just a fucking Trump shill who knows nothing about politics OR economics. Any economist worth his salt would know that America right now is suffering a crisis in demand and that we need to stimulate that part of the economy if we want to have a real recovery. That means government spending. FUCK OFF.
This topic has been studied to death, most significantly in the 70's and 80's when It was looking like the Japanese economy was going to overtake America's.
Everybody in America got butthurt and started writing anti-japanese pieces like "the rising sun" etc.
OP where is it getting published? Has it been peer-reviewed?
>>71019556
Being this defensive because someone aeems to know more than you
Why are there so many degenerates unwilling to learn without feeling their egos under attack in this board, it's still a bit till summer
>>71018706
First post worst post.
>>71019811
ITT we get butthurt because someone seems to know more than us which makes our egos hurt
>>71018623
No you didn't, people already know this and have known this since the 90s.
>>71021145
>Everything has to be masticated, packaged and of easy access to be understood because I dont want to try to understand or learn by myself
Fucking millenials
>>71021208
>"Fuck off already with you knowing more than me, it hurts my ego!"
>Forgets he can leave the thread any time
>>71032604
>You disagree with me on one point? EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG NYAAA
>>71021353
Thx m8
>>71018623
regardless of the model in question, as long as economies follow the dogma of constant growth, newer gens will find little incentive to play along because social security and various mandatory social programs are also designed on the same underlying principles that defy reality
each subsequent necessary reform of downsizing these systems chips away at the incentive to work within them, demoralizes employees and instills great fear of the future, so the goal becomes to contribute as little as possible and rely on oneself for old age security
popular workaround is being self-employed on self-reported min wage and channeling income through small business partnerships, where all partners do their business deals through an llc company and essentially work as self-employed subcontractors
this way ensures each partner's biggest income stream doesn't apply for savage income tax, pay minimal contributions into social systems, allows one to take advantage of VAT inputs/outputs etc, at least that's how non-plebs do in my cunt
I say let's hasten the day for it will come sooner or later
>>71018623
Neoliberalism is a busted flush, this is no secret.
>>71018623
how will you support the elderly?
>>71019635
Let's pretend that you are the average bullet riddled cuckold of a white Frenchman and not some Algierian carpet salesman for one second...
What is the percentage of Muslims in France?
>>71018623
The Japanese economy isn't on the verge collapse unless the government/banks fuck up hardcore, it's just been in decline in comparison to the massive economic boom they enjoyed before the 90s. They still have the issues of people not having kids and the NEET epidemic though, which may affect it in the future if it all gets worse.
>>71018623
My question is: why would you publish your findings on 4chan? Most people won't give a shit and it'll disappear fairly soon. Not implying you're not publishing it anywhere else, oc.
>>71036752
Eating them might work.
>>71020287
>True, fewer workers means a lower tax/pension base, but there are different ways of working around these issues.
what are these different ways?
I'm against mass immigration, because immigrants have no way to change their culture / work ethic so easily.
>>71032419
Why don't they expand their influence in secret then, like China had been doing previously?
>>71018623
After studying the japanese economy for 18 months, did you realize they print money like mad, and have 2,861,488,000,000 foreign debt?
>>71037441
Then we wouldn't know about it if it was secret.
>>71032851
americans are big fat fucking faglets, they throw an agressive fit when someoene is about to take their place, and ruin everything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
>>71020953
The best way to compete with foreign markets is through force of arms. By the Queen's crown, you have my sword, brother!
>>71026245
No one?
>>71025160
Deceptively half-rare, looks just like a common finntroll until closer inspection.
Wouldn't go quite as far to call it a rareflag though
Japan just got blasted by god and a tsunami is about to wipe the country out. How will this affect their economy?
>>71019635
FPBP
(Frog post best post)
>>71038617
happens every friday i believe
>>71018623
>world's highest debt to gdp ratio
>central banks issuing loans with negative interest rates
>A way forwards for the rest of us
>>71038822
They're going to die this time.
>>71018623
Japan is prosperous but it has lots of savings to eat until their standard of living starts seriously declining. Nevertheless, the country is still in trouble and complacency with the incompetent social engineers of the bank of Japan needs to be stopped
>>71019069
can't tell if sarcastic or swedish.
>>71019618
>the economy is stagnant and will continue to be so forever as it cannot grow anymore,
>oh noes cant infinitely grow guess we better open up our boarders and kill ourselves xD
this has always been the most absurd part of western economics. So what if you can't grow anymore? Why not be satisfied with what you have and work with it, rather than against it?
>>71020637
Who is this catheter calliope?
IT'S HAPPENING
>>71019556
>CITATION NEEDED
>GIVE ME A SOURCE SO I CAN ATTACK IT BECAUSE I CANT DISCREDIT YOUR ARGUMENT
every fucking time.
>>71021451
Who is this hummer harpy?
>>71039313
>this has always been the most absurd part of western economics. So what if you can't grow anymore? Why not be satisfied with what you have and work with it, rather than against it?
Is this bait? Capitalism requires growth to remain competitive, if you can't compete you cease to exist. Good luck making do with no electricity.
Also no population growth = real-estate values will begin to collapse which is the prime collateral loans are issued against and your entire economy will implode.
>>71021856
Guys like me will direct the robots.
>>71036752
You flag looks like your graph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJiSSAMNWw
>>71027382
>>71028547
You can have a 4:1 machine to person ratio.
For example, I drive one truck at work right now. When they automate, I will direct four trucks.
They won't cut down for work force by 3/4ths, they'll most likely add capacity... Because they'll be able to increase the volume per labor dollar.
That is to say, four robots will be doing your job, but you will be to feed them instructions.
The employer will likely hire more people to run a greater number of robots to max out production.
This is the plan in his waterfront industry.
They've automated a coal terminal already and it's busier than it was before.
It's about increasing production, not cutting jobs.
>>71032063
You can run more machines per worker for greater productivity. There's no sense in replacing an equal number of workers with the same number of robots.
The workers supplanted will support and direct the robots.
>>71039134
>7.1 will kill people in Japan
Some countries, unlike burgerland,is actually prepared for earthquakes and don't bitch out when faced with the wet fart of nature's disasters
>>71019872
Any books you'd recommend that go into describing the Prussian model? I'd also be interest in the "Shimamura model" as well.
>>71039857
Good.
The real estate market needs to crash and constant growth is unsustainable.
>>71021696
sounds like the average guy on /v/
>>71021145
A FUCKING DUMB LEAF
>>71040588
Predictive text just ate the shit out of that.
>>71041159
He's probably a Serbian expat.
>>71019069
Clearly sarcastic, Swedes that come to /pol/ are probably some of the most tortured souls on this planet. Makes you wonder what you did in your past lives do deserve this Sven.
>>71023557
33%*
>>71032604
>You support Trump? OH SO YOU'RE IGNORANT ABOUT ECONOMICS
this is good bait desu
>>71039857
>>71025860
this
>>71018623
The only thing i care about is whether they're gonna ban child porn comics, what are your thoughts on that?
Japan is the Trump of economies. People keep thinking it's gonna fail but decade after decade it refuses to be stumped.
>>71032604
>We need to throw more money at the system to fix our problems.
wew lad, keep sucking that Wallstreet cock
>>71022625
>You act like it will happen overnight, it will be a slow process taking at least 30 years and will give people plenty of time to adapt.
im sure they will become smart in those 30 years...
>>71018623
Economist here too
Japanese save too much. Don't spend enough
Had bad banking policies in the early 90's they were too stubborn to change when things went shit up
Japanese economy aged and so did the population
Stubborn, xenophobic fucks
The end
>>71019069
nice use of double speak comrade
>>71042577
Merchant, please.
Please wash away this faggot island and all the obese weebs "living" there. The entire shithole is full of pedos and beta manlets who're so embarrassing their ugly women won't even touch them. Maybe without the anime white "men" can get back to being respectable again instead of emulating a culture that encourages being a slimy little faggot.
>>71037441
They are, see: South America
>>71027684
Spotted the Korean.
Vacation or Australian uni because you didn't get SKY and was too stupid to know that only the USA, Canada, and the UK have universities with any international clout in the anglosphere.
Oh and there wont be a reunification and even if it did happen you would spend decades reintegrating the norks and by the time you did your birthrate might go from second lowest to lower than Japan.
You will never eclipse them, sorry my kimchi loving friend. Your economy is already tanking.
>>71042828
But look who is blaming a "failure" of a free market.....
The dotflags could had fixed their shit by removing all reserve restrictions on banks twenty years ago. They have literally hung a weight around their neck on purpose. Stubborn zips.
Sad!
